tbh i can just use my phone to boot linux isos
#general
void void
yeh but like if the usb connection is flaky
void void
fair enough, i've just learnt never trust a usb connection
usb A tbf is alright, just most of the others
golden gust
i'm honestly just used to internet recovery these days
golden gust
worse case, I got a cd drive that I ripped outta my mbp and a rando cable somewhere that lets it USB
void void
god my parrots hilarious
desk drawer closed why she was standing on it and she just clung on like a spider
latent valve
👀
olive marlin
Recently my multiboot didn't want to run, I wanted to recreate it, but yay -Ss multiboot showed me ventoy. It's so great! Haven't had any issues at all. And don't need to install it if I just want to add another ISO to the drive 🙂
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://github.com/openebs/zfs-localpv -- openebs/zfs-localpv: CSI Driver for ZFS based Persistent...: "CSI Driver for ZFS based Persistent Volumes for Kubernetes. ... OpenEBS ZFS CSI Driver ... CSI driver for provisioning Local PVs backed by ZFS and..."
void void
this saved my day
rugged frost
limber knotBOT
Why?
marble sphinx
becuase its good
limber knotBOT
Oh missunderstood you then lol
paperd could need a bit more attention but ye paper is awesome
upper flicker
everytime paperd gets close demon decides to rewrite part of it
idk where he's at now, guy wants perfection
limber knotBOT
Which is totally fine
upper flicker
yeah it's not necessarily a bad thing, unless youre one of those people waiting for it
it is what it is, it's his thing. when he says its done, it's done
golden gust
paperd ooks interesting, but, not really a large scale op type thing
limber knotBOT
paperd + k8s == yummi
fallen oracle
.mojang
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) ****MJ|Session: **🚫 **MJ|Account: **☑️ **api.mojang.com: **☑️ **MJ|AuthServer: **☑️ **MC|Textures: **☑️ **MC|Website: **🚫 **mojang.com: **🚫 **MC|Session: ☑️
fallen oracle
Nice.
upper flicker
idk that the endpoints those check are even up anymore
I know mojang has done a bad job with their own status api iirc
fallen oracle
They should be okay. A second ago it looked like all 4 or so were offline so I was just double checking to make sure it wasn't me.
ornate spindle
fallen oracle
Lol
limber knotBOT
.mojang
(lars) ****MJ|Session: **🚫 **MJ|Account: **☑️ **api.mojang.com: **☑️ **MJ|AuthServer: **☑️ **MC|Textures: **☑️ **MC|Website: **🚫 **mojang.com: **🚫 **MC|Session: ☑️
I don't know what that bot is measuring but mojang.com loads fine?
upper flicker
some of the endpoints it hits are down
idk what they all are
session is also literally always down
limber knotBOT
Is is hitting the legacy session then?
The one that they turned off like 3 years ago?
upper flicker
no idea
should just remove half of those anyway
so its trusting mojang's status API
which is always bork
unkempt crow
grave coral
void void
limber knotBOT
waxen panther
lol
void void
minor badge
nothing quite like haskell's type system tho
pulsar wigeon
this shit again
mighty dirge
who are you random
potent fossil
oh Emma is that person
peak dirge
you failed to Google for what you need repeatedly
potent fossil
the one that calls people 'random'
guys this is literally a troll
was in spigot doing the same shit
peak dirge
oic
pulsar wigeon
yea ik
waxen panther
Already gone 
pulsar wigeon
they were doing it in a few places i've seen
waxen panther
who are you random
cunning raft
they pinged me randomly in tuinity discord asking for something to do with action bars
potent fossil
yeh they're annoying
modest gorge
so I asked for suggestions on rtp plugins that use paper's async chunk load. I tried one, but it shows the same timings betterRTP did (and you all told me to ditch). https://i.imgur.com/roISSFY.png - I reported the issue and the author told me to update paper (I'm on 327, I doubt color serialization gonna help) and report the issue here lol.
potent fossil
@wheat quarry you're a bad dev!
modest gorge
"paper (I'm on 327"
cunning raft
1.15?
modest gorge
1.15.2
limber knotBOT
not sharing timings
lament patio
Bad bot
worn ember
big doo doo
green lantern
modest gorge
spark report doing /rtp five times https://spark.lucko.me/#RIIRu80rax
limber knotBOT
do you have any timings?
golden gust
HeightValidator
worn ember
sounds like trash rtp plugin 
limber knotBOT
wtf is paper doing
modest gorge
we use the right flags on prod
void void
worn ember
oof
native briar
I can t use No IP dns to my server how
golden gust
The chunk won't be fully loaded if it's hitting that, or, shouldn't be
limber knotBOT
I mean, it's loaded by PaperLib#getChunkAtAsync
golden gust
you're not in a callback from that, however
modest gorge
I just did /rtp four or five times in a row in a local test world if that's informational
limber knotBOT
I am?
golden gust
You're at the start of the tick in the scheduler, no idea how long getChunk async will keep a chunk loaded for
You're in the scheduler
limber knotBOT
native briar
@golden gust how i can use the no ip system to a bungee server?
worn ember
i mean, you could give mine a try and see if it does the same thing ig 
golden gust
afaik, it's just typical DNS, point it towards your thing, port forward the bungee server
limber knotBOT
I wouldn't be too surprised if getHighestBlockYAt is simply broken, lol
wait, the one without y
native briar
Is already port forwarded but the dns is not working
minor badge
you can get a domain for a year for as low as 99 CENTS, just pay it instead of using some noip shit
limber knotBOT
you can even get three subdomains from more respectable sources ¯_(ツ)_/¯
native briar
I m from Romania and here host are too expensive up to 300€
blazing nebula
why get a romanian host then
native briar
I can t buy from another country
limber knotBOT
you can
blazing nebula
also you said "up to", just get a cheaper one lmao
native briar
Because i have 13 year old
void void
^
worn ember
well theres some people that do 👀
limber knotBOT
(unless you are trying to buy expensive shit I guess)
namecheap is a great example for not giving a fuck lol
but buying a domain is extremely simple
native briar
My mom stell the money for clotches and foos
limber knotBOT
namecheap even accepts bitcoin ;D
native briar
Food
limber knotBOT
yikes
sage kettle
I've still to meet a 13 y/o that doesn't act like one.
worn ember
imagine stealing your money so you can live lol
waxen panther
if your family needs food that badly I think you have bigger priorities than opening a mc server tbh
void void
^
potent fossil
"clothes and food are less important than my minecraft server. clearly, my mom is stealing from me and ruining my dreams."
pats belly and enjoys computer
limber knotBOT
yeah, learn programing and make big bucks on the internet to support your family ;D
e.g. writing ramsonware to get bitcoins for food lol#
native briar
How can i link the no ip dns to the bungee server without a paid host?
potent fossil
gl with that guys
limber knotBOT
buddy if your family needs food so badly go and work.
instead of sitting all day long at your desk and trying to setup a minecraft server
potent fossil
he's got a PC and an internet connection, he's not nearly as bad off as he's claiming
already better than like what
80% of the world
limber knotBOT
yep
waxen panther
but muhh minecraft server
limber knotBOT
I mean, most people use smartphones nowadays to get into the internet, lol
I mean china has like 0 internet
nah, china has internet*
potent fossil
vpn can go right through it though so whatever
limber knotBOT
of course
potent fossil
yea i know, i do it all the time when im in shanghai airport
limber knotBOT
NordVPN >>>>
imagine buying a satelite phone lol
can't bypass it when you can't find the resources to bypass it though
native briar
Now how can i host a server with a dns on my pc instead?
void void
wtf i think irc bridge is bugged out
potent fossil
true phoenix
limber knotBOT
yeah imagine buying a satellite phone, just buy a satellite
void void
that was kenny a moment ago
potent fossil
i buy it in advance
limber knotBOT
also you can burn your phone when you leave china lol
MickeyH: you use your home internet external IP and port forward the MC port in your router to your PC
no domain needed
yeah just share the IPv4
afaik noip offers a dyndns service too
native briar
But i want to my friends to join and others
void void
yep use the dyndns thing
limber knotBOT
rtfm
potent fossil
why doesnt this guy just use like the .tk free domain?
limber knotBOT
lol
.lmgtify how to rtfm
because it's harder to setup dyndns with a proper tld?
(and a dumb free registrator)
sage kettle
where's the /w command from? bukkit, spigot or paper?
potent fossil
fuck this dyndns bullshit t
cunning raft
bukkit
potent fossil
probably essentials @sage kettle
native briar
How you added Bot tag to your account?
sage kettle
🤔 maybe...
pulsar wigeon
minecraft?
potent fossil
is w vanilla?
pulsar wigeon
yes lmao
cunning raft
oh right
potent fossil
nice
pulsar wigeon
tell/msg/w
cunning raft
whisper
limber knotBOT
MickeyH, use IRC client
waxen panther
use a plugin that replaces it
limber knotBOT
or just give proper permissions
potent fossil
hm, i need to do some research now about using jwt auth in serverless context
sage kettle
I think it's probably essentials.
I'm already using chatcontrol. I only want chatcontrol to manage those.
potent fossil
while being as DRY as possible, dont want auth checking in every single goddamn file
limber knotBOT
IRC == Dark Magic according to a former teacher of mine lol
IRC = home sweet home
yep
limber knotBOT
wat
IRC is home of ddos attacks and the openfly bot
how can a protocol be ugly? 
waxen panther
IRC Clients = Ugly
ashen cliff
Discord is just fancy IRC with glued on voice chat.
limber knotBOT
ye
waxen panther
limber knotBOT
why would you use a client that you don't like, lol
fancy insecure, centralized irc
also you can host a lounge instance on a raspberry pi
cunning raft
some use irc just for the bot tag
limber knotBOT
the discord UI in comparison is cancer
cunning raft
viper
void void
i'd use irc
limber knotBOT
I can confirm
ashen cliff
Just so they can't get tagged.
void void
but nearly every community i'm part of is on discord
limber knotBOT
I tend to use irc when my connection is to trashy for discord or if I have to do shady bussiness
void void
👀
limber knotBOT
Username checks out lol
worn ember
lament patio
This server is shady business, I agree
waxen panther
Very shady
limber knotBOT
I mean it violates Discord ToS so yeah
runs
that business very berry shady
I agree
waxen panther
void void
god i hate the windows installer
limber knotBOT
I don't even use windows lol
void void
i don't either, setting up parents laptop
limber knotBOT
just use linux
potent fossil
i really do want to write a tool that follows irc protocol so you can connect with a standard irc client, but actually just controls a selfbot on the other end so you can use IRC but be on any discord...
but...discord TOS...
but this cool as shit idea...
what's more important...
void void
huh, back on my pc
limber knotBOT
I mean, third party clients exist so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
potent fossil
i know they do, i wanna write a god tier one tho
limber knotBOT
and the only part about that violating discord ToS would be the reverse engineering of their protocol
void void
how can you change the profile picture for the bot when you write a message from irc?
worn ember
imagine not blindly following government rules and application ToS, wake up sheeple
cunning raft
ah yeah i know someone making a new discord cos of shit ToS
yeah that will work
.g xkcd standards
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://xkcd.com/927/ -- Standards - xkcd: "Permanent link to this comic: https://xkcd.com/927/ Image URL (for hotlinking/embedding): https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png. HOW..."
but libpurple-discord already exists so just use that, lol
cunning raft
doubt you'd be sued
potent fossil
my acct got deleted by these fuckers once doe 👀
cunning raft
they would prob delete ur account yeah
void void
Discord is fancy irc so everyone who hates irc hates discord lol
limber knotBOT
just build on top of that, simple: https://github.com/EionRobb/purple-discord ;D
slim nymph
@wheat quarry the sync loads during async tp is due to a teleport point on edge of a chunk and collision then doing a chunk load on neighbor. its a TODO to resolve
limber knotBOT
interesting
but the high performance impact doesn't seem to be from the teleport but from a getHighestBlockAt call?
potent fossil
das pretty sexy phoenix thx
void void
you could may exploit that one for tp hacks lol
slim nymph
hmm
worn ember
i blame phoenix being bad dev
slim nymph
is your getHighestblock delayed after the chunk load event?
slim nymph
prob just need to add a 10 tick ticket
we put it into the server queue, i bet its unloading before the callback runs
worn ember
is this only on latest build?
limber knotBOT
the build before the formatting changes apparently so basically latest in regards to chunks, yeah
no idea when it started happening, I personally haven't seen this kind of behaviour
let me check if it happens on my server, lol
worn ember
ah, i'll update to latest and see if it shits bricks for me too
its fine for my plugin but i'm 200+ builds behind
slim nymph
and?
worn ember
clearly gotta keep the backwards compatibility 😉
lament patio
Can't say I'm not guilty of running paper 112 on my test server
worn ember
it takes like a solid minute to download the new jar for me so that too long to bother every time xD
golden gust
The thing is that his code was running from the scheduler, am looping thou, so, maybe I'll have another look
slim nymph
yeah... its in scheduler
you need to add a ticket yourself if your gonna delay processing
theres no guarantees how long that chunk stays loaded
but im gonna make it last a little bit at least, and should prob make sure its using the same chunk gc plugin tickets
limber knotBOT
well, I'm not delaying it so this needs to be done in the getChunkAsync method, lol
slim nymph
it says your code is running in a craft task
limber knotBOT
it's not
slim nymph
spark says it is
limber knotBOT
where?
worn ember
who lies, is the question dun dun dunn
potent fossil
this is like one of those comedic scene with two ppl arguing and a bystander looking from one to the other each time a new point is made
slim nymph
if you stored result of futrue and reused it, no guarantees that chunk is still loaded
limber knotBOT
doesn't say that for me, what's that spark?
slim nymph
the one you just linked....
potent fossil
limber knotBOT
literally the wrong code simple
potent fossil
o ok ill go sit down
slim nymph
well the code he linked is what i saw
worn ember
bad simple
limber knotBOT
then you didn't saw the right part
golden gust
the one in your screenshot is potentially o.O
limber knotBOT
this is the line that calls the validator: https://github.com/Phoenix616/RandomTeleport/blob/master/randomteleport-plugin/src/main/java/de/themoep/randomteleport/searcher/RandomSearcher.java#L390
right inside the thenApply of getChunkAtASync
limber knotBOT
well I looked at the highest one, lol
slim nymph
the other stack is concerning yeah
limber knotBOT
also the task isn't called after chunk load, it's before
slim nymph
ok so im assuming the chunk was already loaded enough to complete the futrue, but the request to getHighestblock is asking for chunk at a diferent level than what async chunk is maybe
ill look into it after work
looking at the scheduler code, i think that code is actually fine, i misunderstood future =paperlibs future
but i see its something else
wait...
i see the issue, it is your code. i bet this is generatedOnly = false. you forgot to check if c == null
so your triggering a generation in the validator
limber knotBOT
uh
I might have thought that generatedOnly only returned generated chunks
which doesn't really make sense, lol
slim nymph
itll call your callback, with c = null
to let you know, its not generated
silently dropping callbacks is bad
its same behavior .getChunkAt(x,z, false) also does
it returns null
limber knotBOT
maybe I thought it would complete exceptionally
which would also be bad for the plugin itself
well, gotta love users not sharing the required information to debug stuff :S
I wish timings could include the executed command strings, lol
slim nymph
well not like they would of known it was that 😛
but i can see generation = false for an RTP plugin being bad if world isnt pregenned.... and at that point? why set it false
limber knotBOT
hm, would checking isChunkGenerated before better?
slim nymph
eh not really, thats essentially what papers doing for you
latent valve
"wish timing would just scream at you what need to be fix and change or even better send optimize for that server config" no more timing in discord
slim nymph
just treat c == null as a validator fail and find next chunk
limber knotBOT
yeah, gonna add that
and it's up to the user to decide if they only want generated chunks ¯_(ツ)_/¯ default is to not care about that
which is probably why this hasn't happened until now
slim nymph
yeah but not sure when youd want it lol, for a brand new non pregenned world, its gonna fail every chunk
worn ember
i for sure dont bother with it
limber knotBOT
some users wanted it so I added it xD
worn ember
seems pointless to tp to already explored chunks
slim nymph
and if you pregen some of the world, dont make the radius go farther than how much you genned
limber knotBOT
maybe they have a well explored core put want to allow teleporting in a larger radius without the performance impact
slim nymph
well explored != empty
worn ember
true but ya know, isnt the point of rtp to get somewhere someone else hasnt been (to some degree)
limber knotBOT
*but
slim nymph
any decent random distribution will increase odds of getting them somewhere clean
limber knotBOT
actually a non-generated-only check might be interesting, lol
modest gorge
if it matters, I was only testing this locally on a test server which wasn't pre-genned, I didn't think it'd be an issue. I was looking for that sync load issue which people told me to abandon betterrtp over
slim nymph
I don't even have RTP on my survival server. you get thrown to a random outpost, and you get to walk to find land. we just reset the resource world every 3-6 months
worn ember
ive been told bettertp is trash lol
limber knotBOT
I mean every server is different ¯_(ツ)_/¯ we don't really do world resets so having a random tp is nice to have xD
slim nymph
and it really doesnt take much to find a place to mine. we have 9 outposts in resource world, you got 360 degrees from each of those 9 outposts....
yeah we have a separate world for no reset
worn ember
people are lazy tho
slim nymph
its spawns are..... something else
modest gorge
we mainly use it so new players don't walk 2k blocks to find space for a home in the main world
slim nymph
the world is from 1.2.5, so its now 8? years old
worn ember
i mean i get the use of it
limber knotBOT
I wish we kept the original world around :S we reset the main survival one every 3 or 4 years or so
void void
ooh that sounds fun
worn ember
sounds like -50fps
slim nymph
and not to mention our ghast-o-geddon we had in 2012-2013 too
that was a fun and scary bug/event
when you set mobs per world to 10k, lets just say lots of ghast spawn
when your doing density checks on ground ina context where ghast fly away
void void
imagine being a new player and walking in on that
slim nymph
literally had 30 fireballs coming at you soon as you stepped into it
void void
that'd be an interesting challenge
void void
sounds worse than withers
slim nymph
if you think mc survival is too easy, try EMC on difficulty 10 😛
worn ember
Gatling ghast
slim nymph
a fan favorite is when i spawn my skeleton boss "Machinegun Marlix"
1 tick arrow fire rate
worn ember
doesn't it take a few ticks before you can take dmg after taking dmg?
left swift
A creeper that explodes multiple times before it dies :o
slim nymph
yeah ihad to spam remove arrows until we made mob fired arrows despawn really fast
we have that too noman, Enraged creeper
never dies one xplosion, jsut spams fire on explosion
making the ground a fiery mess
so spawn a cluster of them and terrain becomes deadly fast
void void
i play anarchy, no terrain is deadly
worn ember
i play modded, every step could be quary hole down to bedrock
left swift
I like turtles
worn ember
i dont, they always steal my boats
left swift
Turtles have a right to those boats
left swift
Boats will never be safe then
slim nymph
chickens gonna be greater
void void
deadly rabbits
slim nymph
well we already have Enraged Rabbits
left swift
Make a giant chicken that shoots an egg out of its ass that explodes when it hits you like a ghast fireball
slim nymph
due to caerbannog
lol can do that, we alrleady have rabbits doing exploding carrots though
left swift
Does everything explode on ur server
austere ivy
can you make another boss that is a literal flying tnt?
left swift
Hmm u think its possible to make enderman kidnap players instead of blocks
slim nymph
lol make you ride them
left swift
And tp them away thousands of blocks
worn ember
kamikaze tnt
left swift
Lmfao
austere ivy
nomanasendhelp, is your name no mana send help or no man ascend help?
left swift
No mana send help
slim nymph
my enderman boss does randomly TP you to disorient you, then launches flying orbs that seek you out and explode if they reach you, so i guess that one sorta has explosion mechanics
austere ivy
gotcha.
void void
don't understand what the theme of the server is then
slim nymph
so soon as you get tp'd you got to immediately watch for the orbs coming from 4 directions
left swift
Theme is death
austere ivy
me dealing with net.minecraft.server: nms, help!
slim nymph
Enhanced Survival, plus economy/plots
blazing nebula
It sounds like an MMO
slim nymph
players can build in town (not creative) using resources they mined in survival or bought from other players. players can go survival to collect and sell in their shop
some players live purely out in survival and dont go to town
theres no free range teleporting, so those who are 100k from spawn cant really return to town easy
void void
ah i forget how large 100k is on most servers
thats like what 5 or 10 mins where i play
slim nymph
using speed hacks lol?
void void
multiple at the same time
slim nymph
yes
kindred storm
another chat message api?
slim nymph
bungee has one doesnt it?
void void
what annoys me is that currently i'm limited to about 600bps cos chunk loading
slim nymph
repeated code?
limber knotBOT
inb4 hardcoding messages
slim nymph
does bungee have its own implementation of comps to legacy that we have to also fix lol?
i assume it does
limber knotBOT
pretty sure it does, yeah
slim nymph
bungee needs to match waht I just did for CB
I hope everyone agrees lossless conversion is important ._.
void void
i tried running paper 1.15.2 with 312MB ram and it runs much better now
slim nymph
wat
void void
it almost generates the spawn chunks
potent fossil
kindred storm
I hope everyone agrees lossless conversion is important ._.
you would think, but...
slim nymph
well, md5 accepted my PR, so its fixed in CB now
paper needs an upstream update and drop my patch though
void void
btw
slim nymph
as ifixed a few more things in the CB PR that isnt in paper yet
slim nymph
i had them pending to commit to paper today but dont need to now lol
now maybe md5 will fix the empty component wrapper problem too
which will help with vanilla alignment
chrome nebula
worn ember
drifting flax
kindred storm
what's the empty component wrapper problem?
slim nymph
well he asked me about it if my pr will fix that, i told him no but that should be handled as a separate change
&bFoo, one would expect: {"text": "foo", "color": "&b"}
but you get {"text": "", color: null, siblings: [ {"text": "foo", "color": "&b" }] }
it ends up VISUALLY the same, but clearly not the same data wise
kindred storm
what problems does that cause?
slim nymph
equals checks
kindred storm
oh yes
void void
god i hate windows, i'm having to install from a win 7 disk to install windows 10
slim nymph
creating items in vanilla commands / component format gets re-encoded to diff format
cunning badge
Im just simply going to deny that
worn ember
just get the w10 eval version?
finite token
I was wondering, are you already working on the 1.16 version with the snapshots or do you wait for the official 1.16 release to start ?
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
void void
which means its still subject to change
limber knotBOT
spigot doesn't release snapshots so there is nothing to work with
stray temple
worn ember
jUsT USe fAbrIC
heady spear
@worn ember use me
worn ember
oki
austere ivy
aikar can you pr to add Player#openSign in Spigot?
waxen panther
austere ivy
it's kinda silly it's only in Paper. I would pr but apparently you need to sign some kind of an agreement and I'm not sure I can even legally do that
slim nymph
why the fuck would I PR features to spigot
worn ember
slim nymph
we want to keep our feature set greater than spigot
finite token
so after the official release the waiting time is about 2months like the 1.15 ?
slim nymph
larger the benefit for plugin devs to switch
no joker
it can be < 1 week, depends on how difficult it is
but our expectation is 1.16 wont be so bad
it doesnt have entire major architectural changes like the chunk sytem was that im at least aware of
waxen panther
dont jinx it 
limber knotBOT
TehBrian: you provide tons of companies with more private data than you provide in the CLA, lmao
left swift
Dont say that now they're gonna fuck something up
limber knotBOT
(and you sign way more massive and invasive agreements...)
slim nymph
minors cant sign contracts in most countries, so if brian is under 18 , he prob cant sign the CLA
cunning badge
Well they changed a lot in 1.16
left swift
limber knotBOT
I mean, it's an agreement, not a contract ;)
slim nymph
features are less of an issue
waxen panther
limber knotBOT
also it's not the issue of the one signing it
worn ember
imo what keeps most people with spigot is that their website has a lot of resources and stuff, and even if its mostly compatible with paper i think a lot of people dont realize/dont wanna bother with switching "eco systems"
slim nymph
theres no debate on that
limber knotBOT
it's an issue of the one accepting it
blazing nebula
are you talking about contributer cla?
slim nymph
yes
blazing nebula
is it even a legal document
slim nymph
yes
blazing nebula
its legit a google form
slim nymph
CLA's are common legal contracts
limber knotBOT
is it a legally binding document in your jurisdiction? ask your lawyer ¯_(ツ)_/¯
limber knotBOT
also the CLA never asks your age so lol
blazing nebula
the thing is- if your a minor and agree it's not binding anyway so it doesn't impact you lol but im not a lawyer idk
limber knotBOT
depends on your jurisdiction
slim nymph
yeah its mainly a risk for spigot
kindred storm
how come paper doesn't have a CLA if it was designed to prevent another DMCA?
slim nymph
its not, its stupid
limber knotBOT
because technicall you would lie by signing it as you wouldn't have the "legal autority to enter into this Agreement", but I doubt any country prosecutes minors for doing so lol
slim nymph
spigot and paper are already under DMCA
blazing nebula
really?
slim nymph
thats why we cant release jars
limber knotBOT
you just need to strike something not covered by the original one that is still an issue
blazing nebula
and I don't think mojang is gonna do anything about it now
slim nymph
doesnt change the fact we dont release jars
void void
isn't it like that nearly always when ur modding a program
limber knotBOT
and unless microsoft wants to take it up with the US government they will compley
*comply
void void
wolve?
kindred storm
wolvereness
potent fossil
oh boy
slim nymph
a previous bukkit developer who dmca'd bukkit
potent fossil
here we go again
limber knotBOT
he dmca'd CRAFTbukkit ;)
void void
oh another copyright jackass
limber knotBOT
bukkit is still online
limber knotBOT
and as far as we are aware of there are no copyright violations in Bukkit ¯_(ツ)_/¯
slim nymph
Bukkit yeah, I did mean CraftBukkit, but you know we shorten it to bukkit often 😛
limber knotBOT
a bit dangerous when you start to talk about legal stuff lol
kindred storm
sometimes the shortening is dangerous because it confuses newcomers who don't know about the difference between Bukkit and CB
waxen panther
theoretically if spigot gave up and paper became the only platform to use would you be able to approach it any differently?
void void
doesn't matter for newcomers much tho does it
limber knotBOT
"it"?
slim nymph
yes @waxen panther we can switch mappings for one 😛
waxen panther
I don't know much about the legalities but if the parts that he was involved with were redone would it still be an issue
limber knotBOT
it matters as they see Bukkit still being online and thinking someone lies
waxen panther
real mapping would be nice
void void
ooh fabric mappings
slim nymph
but cant get away from wolves code
and even if we rewrote wolves code, the next old bukkit dev can do the same thing
kindred storm
so paper is stuck on the patch system forever
limber knotBOT
ASM Developer: no, any dev could dmca a minecraft mod
void void
i mean patch system isn't that bad
limber knotBOT
(which includes minecraft source code)
minor badge
the patch system aint bad tbh
kindred storm
yeah I know, it's just not as convenient as viewing the source directly
void void
like at least we're not having to do some ASM stuff
waxen panther
I see I see, thank you phoenix
worn ember
sounds like a big gray area
kindred storm
i end up cloning and running ./paper jar a lot
slim nymph
run paper build instead 😛
limber knotBOT
main issue as always is that you can't share LGPLv3 code alongside non-LGPLv3 compatible code
minor badge
i enjoy the patch system in how easy it is to add new changes to the tree and still have oversight even tho it might be a patch from years ago
limber knotBOT
and Minecraft code is proprietary so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
slim nymph
if your only using jar for private use, you dont need paperclip
limber knotBOT
patches are the way to go, makes updating way easier than before imo
slim nymph
because he didnt like the fact mojang owned the project and doesnt want them using his code in relationship to their game
limber knotBOT
barty: he was annoyed by mojang having bought bukkit without any of the non-big devs getting notified
slim nymph
as phoenix said ,the entire project is a GPL violation
everyone who contributes is contributing in a violated state if they dont license their code looser than GPL
limber knotBOT
well even LGPL was an issue which is already looser ;)
slim nymph
yeah even lgpl doesnt help since it literally modifies the non gpl code, thats hard to call a "link"
you cant combine gpl code with proprietary code
bukkits GPL license invalidates CB's LGPL license even
worn ember
legal stuff is weird
slim nymph
bukkit SHOULD of been LGPL
waxen panther
It'll never be done
slim nymph
well, CB uses bukkit, so anything that links with bukkit inherits the full GPL
well, CB uses bukkit, so anything that derives from bukkit inherits the full GPL*
limber knotBOT
CB implements the bukkit api
waxen panther
Java 50 will be out by the time the lawsuit is done
slim nymph
was about to edit but forgot your on IRC ._.
limber knotBOT
and only if API is licenseable then it would inherit
if API is not subject to copyright/license then it wouldn't
waxen panther
does the irc not give indication for edits?
limber knotBOT
and that's what Google vs Oracle is about
waxen panther
I bet my messages look terrible, half of them have typos in lol
slim nymph
there is implementation code in bukkit
limber knotBOT
#IRCneverForgets
minor badge
#IRCneverLearnsToo
waxen panther
#IRCIsDumb
slim nymph
impl that interfaces a dependency on CB/Minecraft
waxen panther
left swift
IRC for boomers
slim nymph
fyi boomers are actually older than irc for most part
left swift
Exactly
worn ember
ok boomer
slim nymph
irc is more early millineals and Gen X
twin lagoon
irc for semi-boomers
left swift
Anyone not a zoomer is in fact a boomer aikar
slim nymph
you know the it kinda kills the point of the boomer statement if you include non boomers....
limber knotBOT
I mean there is no age on the internet so...
left swift
Cant be non boomers if they are included in the boomer category 
slim nymph
"Baby boomers are the demographic cohort following the Silent Generation and preceding Generation X. The generation is most often defined as individuals born between 1946 and 1964, during the post–World War II baby boom."
worn ember
stop using facts and logic
slim nymph
gen x is a mixed bag, but millineals tend to align views with the younger generation
worn ember
zoom zoom
void void
honestly i don't like my generation
slim nymph
i drive a mazda. zoom zoom is right
waxen panther
left swift
twin lagoon
@slim nymph is it supposed to be that a player isn't being sent chunks when it's being teleported in a straight line every tick?
i would assume the per tick teleporting is making it not load the chunks
slim nymph
if you stop does it send
im sure thats wrecking absolute hell on the server doing that though
twin lagoon
uh, let me get a stop command to stop teleporting
slim nymph
as thats gonna spam load/unload tickets
twin lagoon
it's for cutscenes
slim nymph
cut scenes?
twin lagoon
yes
tulip inlet
why dont you put the player into a vehicle and move that
twin lagoon
yeah that's what i was thinking of now too
but the teleporting should work aswell shouldn't it
tulip inlet
using a vehicle makes the movement more smooth
slim nymph
im not sure, 1 tick is not enough to receive chunks
twin lagoon
hm
slim nymph
unless you like sync chunk load
though the distance map stuff can prob handle it better
but thatll be a leaf thing
if you set the players velocity instead to "push" them
twin lagoon
well
the chunks are already loaded though
they're just not being sent
so it shouldn't need to load any chunks
the client just isn't receiving the chunks with the 1 tick teleporting
if useful, when a chunk is loaded, a ticket of level 34 is added to it so it's never unloaded
it's not ticked when no players are nearby, but it's never being unloaded
kindred storm
well, you see, it's not hard to guess that a plugin will at some point receive 10 downloads
you would be essentially guessing that it ever surpasses 10 downloads
daring flare
worn ember
damn
still cape
... you lie
void void
wiz you need to eat healthy!
worn ember
im watching scrap mechanic videos instead of studying
wide chasm
Wiz burns calories by banning people, don't you know?
worn ember
pulsar wigeon
limber knotBOT
Reminder for @static badge: reminder to remind people to check their backups
waxen panther
limpid aurora
empty jasper
limpid aurora
Hey peeps!
crude turtle
twin lagoon
@slim nymph yeah ok so, setting the velocity won't work
player.setRotation(yaw, pitch) throws an exception saying that this method is not supposed for players and to consider teleporting instead
we need to set the player's head rotation
void void
fallen oracle
That's just how it's sorted.
soft hull
open whale
void void
fallen oracle
Oh hi
void void
i'm starting to think that we're being botted again
fallen oracle
They aren't new accs
pulsar wigeon
means nothing tbh
potent fossil
pleasantly surprised with cf workers atm
void void
maybe someone posted an invite in some other discord then
fallen oracle
Whatcha using it for simple?
worn ember
being a dick comes at a price wiz 😉
twin lagoon
@potent fossil cf workers are 10/10
potent fossil
well, am just trying to make a rest api on it, no particular use case yet
twin lagoon
i've seen someone serve images from their s3 bucket for free image hosting
potent fossil
but it's very flexible
twin lagoon
and i personally host my static website
fallen oracle
Interesting.
fallen oracle
Can't you just use GitHub pages or something
void void
ciao
@still smelt ciao?
potent fossil
I want to put a full scale API on it though w/ user auth and multiple full crud routes using CF KV to store it all. really not sure if that's a great idea or not
but
I wanna try anyway
twin lagoon
no
potent fossil
ITALIANS GO TO PAPER ITALY SERVER
void void
sorry
potent fossil
go found it viper, then leave
twin lagoon
waxen panther
void void
i'm strangered, i don't know how i enter this server... but ok
waxen panther
yes paper has a different website for every country
tulip inlet
we need to set the player's head rotation
either use spectator mode or send a camera packet to imitate it
if you do that the head rotation will be smoothed by the client
twin lagoon
either use spectator mode or send a camera packet to imitate it
afaik we've tried this already
fervent viper
twin lagoon
"but other entities' rotation is sent to the client in angles (1/256 of a full turn), so it was horribly unprecise"
tulip inlet
true
void void
I can translate the whole paper website in italian if you want
@still smelt i quite understand English but maybe i can miss some words
fallen oracle
Interesting so it can host static websites
runic oar
fallen oracle
So can I use nuxt or something to generate the static site?
twin lagoon
afaik it can definitely do that
with the pro plan atleast
.g cloudflare workers static site hosting
limber knotBOT
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void void
over 4k
fallen oracle
Maybe 26?
upper flicker
on paper like the discord or the server software
tulip inlet
9148
upper flicker
4,556 online
void void
4.5k online
upper flicker
9,162 total
void void
viper check #404345080917262369
waxen panther
science
void void
magic
fallen oracle
It's in the invite
void void
lmao
fallen oracle
So while that thing sounds cool Michael, I need stuff outside the static site too cause I have folders I need to access.
potent fossil
im literally deploying a full webpack app to cf workers
fallen oracle
Fun
potent fossil
(aka it doesnt need to be just static, it runs node.)
idk if that was wat u were talking about tho
twin lagoon
this isn't even his server
potent fossil
sigh
twin lagoon
potent fossil
lmao
twin lagoon
if this is andrewkm
void void
also that guy joined like 10 mins ago
twin lagoon
solar thicket
void void
5765765765
mystic cipher
shadow prairie
potent fossil
lol
slender jay
Oh of course
twin lagoon
i completely agree
green panther
potent fossil
what a shitty fucking attempt at a raid
twin lagoon
potent fossil
can't even bot it, they're doing it manually
solar thicket
Rip
fervent viper
;_;
twin lagoon
well
slender jay
How sad
warm anchor
True
warm anchor
Imagine pinging mod to get banned
slender jay
Facts
solar thicket
Eh
potent fossil
how fucking retarded can you be?
joins server to inform ppl that a raid is incoming
tries to raid
doesn't even automate the raid
gets one ping flood in
gets banned
cunning raft
smh
twin lagoon
warm anchor
Wow this is so fast I can’t see fast enough
potent fossil
this is hilarious
slender jay
Bravo
cunning raft
got be laughin
warm anchor
Bro at lest automatic your account switching process
open whale
slender jay
Pasta
worthy zenith
🌮
slender jay
TACOS!
warm anchor
slim ice
slender jay
Sad
twin lagoon
slender jay
I miss skype emojis
waxen panther
slender jay
The slow clap was amazing
warm anchor
sand jackal
tame pendant
Anyone know why my dynmap rendered like this when I used the /dynmap fullrender command? I hate how they use a configuration.txt instead of a config.yml and how their documentation hasn't been updated since 2014
tame pendant
what do you mean by that? Dynmap is dead?
worn ember
no worldborder is dead
twin lagoon
worldborder isn't the problem afaik
tame pendant
I'm using v3.0-RC3
heady spear
im lonely where do i order bf
tame pendant
yes I have been there, and tried runing dynmap render while standing there. it says rendering but then doesn't actually render
heady spear
idk if anything is open here rn
tame pendant
I also don't use worldborder anymore, just used it initially to generate the world and then removed the plugin
heady spear
hm there's a döner shop like 10min from here lol
tame pendant
ooh I love doner
worn ember
mines like 3 mins away lol
heady spear
I mean every single pizza shop here servers döner too**
tame pendant
waaa
that must be nice
I just re-ran dynmap fullrender and I think it's working this time. Not sure why it decided to skip some sections the first time
pulsar wigeon
.>
zealous wedge
get better habits
worn ember
ok dad
heady spear
ye calling people gae is big dum
worn ember
no u
heady spear
bruh
waxen panther
honest wind
potent fossil
corona
tame pendant
^
worn ember
heady spear
u k we don't have that here
worn ember
electrocute the corona out of him
heady spear
no no it's not corona
serene elbow
heady spear
i can breathe and shit bcuz i took my allergy meds
pulsar wigeon
i mean, it's funny cuz that's actually how sweden is treating corona
heady spear
my uni is opening up again in a week 
worn ember
"if you dont look at it it wont see us"
waxen panther
Another leaf
worn ember
.leaf
limber knotBOT
heady spear
bruh y leaf made australia simulator
serene elbow
heady spear
Speaking about Australia, the Swedish annual forest fires have already started D:
wide chasm
My university has announced that classes will continue being online until the end of January 2021...
twin lagoon
god this shit better not be stuck until 2021
wide chasm
It is June
heady spear
we'll have normal classes next semester
heady spear
ye so after the coming exams
wide chasm
Only stuff that can't be done online will be irl. I imagine some exams will become physical again, but as long as it's possible it will be online.
worn ember
all my finals are online now
heady spear
i wanna be physical with dark ngl
worn ember
i make even the straights go gay, its a gift and a curse
blazing nebula
🏳️🌈
void void
do you like your gift?
worn ember
read again 🙂
worn ember
i wasnt talking about him tho
void void
fair
oblique flower
worn ember
ik he has the gae
potent fossil
city is sexy
pulsar wigeon
he's talking about women who see him and decide to be lesbian cuz he's so ugly
void void
slender jay
pulsar wigeon
did that joke just woosh yall
void void
damn
worn ember
why do you have to hurt my feelings like this
waxen panther
worn ember
waxen panther
upper flicker
what's the best interface to set a timer for a desktop with a keyboard 🤔
wait... I got it, just some scroll wheels! 
worn ember
tf are you doing
upper flicker
literally need something to make a ton of noise in an hour and a half
void void
get a parrot then
pulsar wigeon
imagine being so embarrassed at windows phone failing that you decide to make your flagship product mobile-hybrid designed
worn ember
still a multi billion dollar company :p
what have you accomplished? Mod on a discord 👏
waxen panther
I mean it's not a billion dollar company because of window phone lol
worn ember
i mean that was a big ass fail, but yeah
shut fjord
hidden pollen
void void
marble niche
peak dirge
Everything is getting redesigned as if everything will go mobile. Well, my monitor isn't touchscreen and el cheapo laptop also isn't touchscreen. And yet GNOME 3 features navigation features best suited to... touchscreen devices
waxen panther
I don't really get the craze for touchscreen on laptops
Couldn't think of anything worse
peak dirge
If I want a touchscreen I actually enjoy, I'll just use my phone, damnit
waxen panther
Just keep it to phones 