#general

3141 messages · Page 633 of 4

static badge
#

you're literally an emote

slender jay
#

A channel that you think new members should visit

ancient bolt
#

ERROR : Couldn't load Narrator library : Unable to load library 'fliteWrapper': Native library (linux-x86-64/libfliteWrapper.so) not found in resource path

#

The fuck

left swift
#

leaf couldn't take the humiliating defeat so he petitioned discord to make an emoji requirement

void void
#

I see the Recommended Channel thing first time in my life

#

is that a new feature?

upper flicker
#

yes

waxen panther
static badge
#

well z

void void
#

and where you can find it

static badge
#

where's the recommended channel for paper

upper flicker
#

whichever one we make that's just a blackhole

waxen panther
jagged egret
#

idk I think you'll have to leave to see it

static badge
#

this channel is a black hole

void void
#

jagged egret
#

bruh i thought you sent an empty message

static badge
#

black theme detector

void void
waxen panther
#

void void
#

lol. White theme ppl gonna see nothing

waxen panther
#

good

static badge
#

wrong

waxen panther
#

i always knew leaf was sus

#

now he's using a light theme?

#

uwunity really is cursed

pulsar wigeon
#

what is that from Z

#

is that in now

#

or are you on canary or something

void void
#

I had some gif somewhere where ppl with white theme would see a cursed image while ppl with dark theme would see text saying: Thank you for using dark theme. White theme users are seeing something cursed rn.

pulsar wigeon
#

that's not a gif thing, it's a transparency thing

void void
#

oops

#

yeah

#

sorry

#

it was an image

static badge
#

for ticking

ancient bolt
#

welp I guess I'm just gonna have to push this and say you can either use paperd or play minecraft, but not both at the same time

#

seems reasonable imo

jagged egret
#

what is paperd

ancient bolt
#

I mean, who actually likes or wants to play minecraft

#

its a tool I've built / am building that no one asked for

jagged egret
#

what do

worthy zenith
#

paperd feels more like a server oriented program rather than a desktop one.. so that probably isnt an issue

ancient bolt
#

this error literally makes no sense at all because I'm only doing things to my own socket that I created so it shouldn't affect netty but I guess it is

worthy zenith
#

does this push make paperd somewhat stable for use?

ancient bolt
#

I haven't pushed anything

cunning raft
#

paperd ❤️

ancient bolt
#

and it is stable, I'm just re-doing it to use a different backend

#

and the rewrite is done and working great except that it breaks everything

#

but I'll figure that last piece of the puzzle out later

worthy zenith
#

well ill be interested in using this once i switch my server over to run longer term

jagged egret
#

Why is running it as a daemon advantageous?

fallen oracle
#

😄

ancient bolt
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

seems cleaner than backgrounding a foreground process in tmux imo

#

but this adds more functionality that I think some people will find useful. I also want to add a command to automatically install to systemd

#

but like you can send commands to the server without connecting to a terminal paperd send 'op DemonWav'

#

or paperd status to get info at a glance

jagged egret
#

interesting

ancient bolt
#

and paperd console drops you into a traditional console but this time with autocomplete and stuff

worthy zenith
#

does it support colors in console?

void void
cunning raft
#

yes it does

worthy zenith
#

yeah totally gonna need to switch to this over screens

tame dock
ancient bolt
#

well I can't record a gif without it flickering because linux sucks so w/e

#

you can imagine using it I guess

#

or just deal with the flickering I guess

cunning raft
#

maybe block until the server is ready

#

also nogui should be pased in no?

ancient bolt
#

I didn't pass that arg in

#

idk if blocking waiting for the server is a good idea, maybe

cunning raft
#

it should be is what im saying as a default arg

#

i've only used paperd in a headless env so idk if it shows normally anyway

ancient bolt
#

oh yeah, hmm

#

that's not a bad idea

#

it doesn't, not in headless

worthy zenith
#

That looks awesome

ancient bolt
#

gnome is probably the best non-tiling linux WM and that's just depressing because it's so bad

#

I wish linux wasn't so trash 😦

pulsar wigeon
#

wonder if WE suggestions work there

#

i mean, the WE there is ages old

#

is that the paper test server thing

ancient bolt
#

it's what I've used as my paper directory for starting and stopping paper for a while

wintry ether
honest sparrow
wet salmon
thorn ruin
ancient bolt
#

oh, the issue had nothing to do with paperd nevermind. I'm just really dumb. I had changed the port of my test server. The error message was confusing because it returned a native socket function that I was using in paperd

fallen oracle
#

Lol

#

Glad it works

severe sleet
#

I host a minigame. I have add registration. so I will give them who will register get a ticket to enter in that minigame. If other want to join they will get gamemode spectator. Is there any plugin like that?

polar sonnet
#

wat

severe sleet
#

I mean I want to host game like world cup. Some will play and other will watch

#

Player will get survival mode and other will get spectator mode

stiff yarrow
#

I wish linux wasn't so trash 😦
@ancient bolt are you on wayland?

static badge
#

wish linux was more like windows tbh

severe sleet
#

Help me🙁

waxen panther
severe sleet
#

That is out of paper

vestal jasper
#

buy more

waxen panther
#

lol

opaque kraken
mighty storm
#

dont worry paper is was provided by my computer science teacher, the school district paid for it not us

fallen oracle
#

But paper is an open source project that's free /s

harsh sapphire
celest coyote
#

lets send an envelope with a paper branded paper to every donation over 50 bucks

#

new marketting tactic for spigot domination

unkempt shadow
thorny token
#

hola ¿?

robust folio
bold sphinx
regal mirage
lucid minnow
#

Hello, my name is %player_name%, what's your's?

#

Oops, I forgot to install my player expansion

potent fossil
#

ok

lucid minnow
#

funnie

rocky frost
ancient bolt
#

no im not on wayland

potent fossil
turbid hare
cosmic raft
#

ok

void void
twin lagoon
#

hi kashike

cosmic raft
#

hi @twin lagoon

twin lagoon
#

have you decided yet

cosmic raft
#

no

twin lagoon
#

opencore is meta

cosmic raft
#

~paper-3281 is interesting

void void
#

Undo the accidental renaming of a method in 0aad8bf
Aikar wanted to rename DataPalette<T>#getDataBits(T object) to getOrCreateIdFor
in 0aad8bf but he also accidentally renamed
ChunkPacketInfo<T>#getDataBitsIndex(int chunkSectionIndex) to
getOrCreateIdForIndex.

Remove chunk-edge-mode and chunk loading entirely from Anti-Xray
The chunk-edge-mode is broken since several versions.
Loading chunk neighbors for chunk edge obfuscation isn't needed anymore.
Unlike in previous versions, these are under normal circumstances already loaded
at the time we need them (plugins for example can bypass this).

Use the modified methods and constructors everywhere
Anti-Xray provides support for the default nms methods and constructors,
which where modified by Anti-Xray to avoid breaking stuff (plugins)
which somehow uses these methods.
However, the modified versions of those methods and constructors should be used
where possible.

Remove support for the default methods and constructors
Actually, in all cases the modified methods and constructors should be used.
The idea behind it was, that I didn't want to break plugins for example,
which make use of that nms stuff.
On the other hand it is bad supporting the default methods and constructors
because this makes updating more error-prone.
In particular it's easy to miss a new method or constructor call in an update,
which should be changed to call the modified one.

Improve some comments

twin lagoon
#

ooo

#

new bot

#

fancy

void void
#

old

cosmic raft
#

not a new bot

#

nobody ever uses it though

void void
#

but now more visibly functional

#

;D

#

.895

twin lagoon
#

oh

limber knotBOT
twin lagoon
#

oooo, dead bot

void void
#

~paper-895

#

I am not sure who's domain this falls under, Spigot, Paper, Mojang etc.

Players are being kicked at random and cannot log back if if there is a player within render distance.

Netty Error: io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: syscall:read(..) failed
Paper Version: Paper version git-Paper-1216 (MC: 1.12.2) (Implementing API version 1.12.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT)

There are documented issues here: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-118372 and https://github.com/netty/netty/issues/6607

Any further information would be useful. I'm not sure if you are aware of this issue or not.
It has been present on all my servers at least since 1.12.1 but possibly 1.12 also.

Again, apologies if this isn't anything that you can resolve.
Thanks.

#

neat

#

writing similar thing in clojure right now tbfh

#

for overall github org management

#

e.g syncing labels & stuff

cosmic raft
#

hehe

#

it does github too

void void
#

ye i made shitton of repos before i started dealing with labels

cosmic raft
void void
#

.g github bot accounts

limber knotBOT
cosmic raft
#

github bot accounts are stupid because of jwt

void void
#

i mean i simply made a normal account for my bot

#

not sure how to label one as a bot though

#

seems like others don't do that

cosmic raft
potent fossil
#

wats wrong with jwt

cerulean wind
balmy inlet
limpid echo
lavish bear
vestal jasper
#

I genuinely cannot hear over this cat purring

#

How is he so loud

limber knotBOT
#

Can't understand why copying nicknames and pasting them via mIRC makes them paste with spaces separated (visually). Like i0 xH eX, only nicknames from discord, no messages parts or IRC nicknames

golden gust
#

The bot throws in a few 0 width spaces to prevent pinging IRC clients

limber knotBOT
#

But by default you're not gonna pinged till you setup this in Address Book right?

#

nvm I'm dumb sometimes

uncut moss
#

is there borderless fullscreen in minecraft

limber knotBOT
#

F11?

uncut moss
#

that's normal fullscreen

void void
#

there's another kind?

limber knotBOT
#

Borderless Gaming?

uncut moss
#

i mean borderless windowed

void void
#

VR?

uncut moss
#

oops

void void
#

borderless windows, you mean like no close buttons and stuff but still see app bar and stuff

uncut moss
#

no

#

borderless windowed mode that's in like every game

pulsar wigeon
#

try borderless gaming

void void
#

don't think minecraft has borderless windowed mode, just alt tab out

#

viper do you mean slim bezel

#

cos thats like nearly every monitor nowadays

uncut moss
#

borderless gaming worked

#

kinda stuttering a bit though

void void
#

those 3cm bezels are old monitors

uncut moss
#

3cm is a lot

void void
#

or really cheap

uncut moss
#

mine's like 0.6cm max

limber knotBOT
#

Why you guys rich

void void
#

well sometimes it's neccessary to have bezels

#

but nowadays not so much

uncut moss
#

bezels on my main monitor is maybe 6mm, bottom one like 1.5cm

pulsar wigeon
void void
#

my £30 monitor barely has bezels soo

pulsar wigeon
#

idk i should tell this guy off or just ignore him

void void
#

do a bunch of angry reactions to it

pulsar wigeon
#

hm thanks

#

the passive aggressive answer

#

perfect

limber knotBOT
#

xD

void void
#

my monitor does that, except way cheaper

#

so ye those slim bezels are on nearly every monitor now

uncut moss
#

this is mine

#

i have an arm

#

but it looks pretty normal to me

#

that one is 144

#

i got it 2 days ago and it's nice as fuck

#

i barely play anything

#

a bit of minecraft and a bit of warzone

#

and rarely bf4

#

minecraft is pretty fun if you're playing it with friends

wide chasm
#

lol

uncut moss
#

i'm banned from hypixel, and it was unintentional

void void
#

how?

#

i mean i'm banned from hypixe

#

yes

uncut moss
#

i forgot an autoclicker macro which i used for something else earlier on my keyboard, accidentally hit the key and got banned within 2 seconds

void void
#

did you know that the queue server for hypixel has no anticheat

granite salmon
#

nice

#

well why would it

void void
#

cos hypixel

granite salmon
#

hypixel anticheat

#

hahaha

#

ha ha ha

uncut moss
#

i got banned from the lobby

granite salmon
#

just let everyone fly around the entire map

void void
#

well anti lag patches and stuff require server patching

granite salmon
#

good anticheat

void void
#

i think the anticheat is on the game servers tho

#

not lobby

uncut moss
#

it banned me from the lobby

granite salmon
#

its on lobby

uncut moss
#

so apparently

granite salmon
#

i also get teleported back in the lobby constantly

void void
#

i mean i remember timer speeding in the lobby and not getting banned so i dunno

uncut moss
#

i got banned in 2 secs with an accidental autoclicker

void void
#

same but with noslow

granite salmon
#

you are very bad at hacking then

void void
#

watchdog saw me eating without slowing down

#

i just forgot to turn it off

quasi ravine
bitter quartz
twin yarrow
#

That's what you get for spending money on big servers.

void void
#

I wouldn't be suprised if they run off a cluster of raspberry pi 4s

simple ridge
ionic island
nocturne hamlet
main rapids
#

Does anyone know when ipv6 will come to minecraft?

twin lagoon
#

already a thing isn't it

upper flicker
#

I mean I can connect to ::1 on localhost so theres at least some amount of ipv6 support

#

I assume it works fine through DNS and remote as well

nocturne sinew
#

what plugin could use placeholders to put prefixes and suffixes to nametags and player list? i want like [vip] player [deluxetags tag]

twin lagoon
#

nametagedit afaik

limber knotBOT
#

nte supports PAPI?

pure trout
digital talon
#

You can do this in nte with displaynames set somewhere else

nocturne sinew
#

alright thanks guys

void void
#

Does anyone know when ipv6 will come to minecraft?

#

already works

#

except DNS

#

because of how many issues ISPs have with ipv6

limber knotBOT
#

I'm afraid of how proxy protection will look like after IPv6 will come as common practice

ashen cliff
#

Due to horrible mismanagement and power abuse.

#

They already started running out in 2011. But you have to somehow ♻️ posts every year.

severe sleet
#

is there anyway to restart server by /restart?

#

it turn off

#

how can i do that?

#

i found a line restart-script: ./start.sh

#

is it that?

tender coyote
cedar spade
#

I wouldn't recommend using that unless you enjoy losing control of your server

severe sleet
#

but i need that for restart server by mod

uncut moss
#

just throw a hammer at the server

waxen panther
#

paperd

severe sleet
#

not working

golden gust
#

general setup is to have the process auto restart without that, so you can just /stop and it will restart

severe sleet
golden gust
#

general setup

#

i.e. you have to set that up

#

ez option is to use a goto loop in the bat file

severe sleet
#

should i change command of run?

#

i use @echo off
java -Xmx12G -jar server.jar nogui
pause

golden gust
#

:start
java ...
goto start

#

Something like that afaik, you'd need to google if that doesn't work

surreal gale
severe sleet
#

i use windows should i use restart-script: /start.bat or restart-script: /start.sh ?

idle valve
pulsar wigeon
#

neither preferably

severe sleet
#

what should i use on restart-script?

#

i think .sh for linux

#

but i use windows 10

limber knotBOT
#

bat?

torn urchin
dull arch
void void
subtle star
rain furnace
pulsar wigeon
#

you should just not use a restart script

#

build restarting functionality into your normal start script if you need it

fallen oracle
#

Gooooood Morning

topaz star
waxen panther
#

yuck

#

anime

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone here knows SQL good enough?

waxen panther
#

whats the question sus

kindred storm
#

yeah

lament patio
#

.ask smh

limber knotBOT
#

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

#

(DiscordBot) Error: API returned 404

lament patio
#

Oh

limber knotBOT
#

I have a table with operations like player join the server, player quit the server, with timestamps. The task is to calculate average time player on the server based on this table with ops.

#

Using SQL

#

Nothing else

kindred storm
#

xD I would just select all the rows involving the player

#

and calculate in java

celest coyote
#

bad idea

pulsar wigeon
#

or just yknow, do it serverside

#

cuz sql is a language that has the capabilities for it

celest coyote
#

you would be moving lots of data between db and server

#

just do it all in sql

void void
#

plugin for ore obfuscation in 1.15?

granite salmon
#

uhh

#

paper has antixray...

fallen oracle
#

You mean... Anti x-ray?

void void
#

y

fallen oracle
#

Lol

void void
#

rly it has anti x ray? how to enable?

granite salmon
#

and that is what you should use

#

paper.yml

#

anti-xray

void void
#

thx

#

will check it

#

SO nice.

limber knotBOT
#

Works great

void void
#

should i change any config or just set to true?

#

huh, i've never seen the anti x-ray enabled

astral steeple
limber knotBOT
#

@d​$t Default config is good enough

#

Just turn it on

void void
#

ok is there a way to reload config or do i need to restart

#

there's no harm in restarting

#

can't tell if my parrots pruning me or trying to eat me

#

except the DJI parrot can't cuddle you or eat you

#

main point of a parrot really

#

to cuddle you and then eat you when you die

peak dirge
#

@slim nymph It looks like I might've finally fixed the bad average case GC on the hub. Of course I applied your new flags, but the one thing we did was dramatically decrease the number of entities (holograms were a bad offender here, I replaced with a custom packet-based thing). Here's the relevant GC logs: https://gist.github.com/astei/b02aef54b0771960803884554ade1f3a

Running that through GCEasy, young gen average time has gone down dramatically to 26.8ms from north of 70ms.

Gist

GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.

clear sundial
fallen oracle
#

Whoa

peak dirge
#

I do see some pauses at the high end (I saw a 1 second pause in there, WTF) so that seems fishy. Sounds like an old gen issue and we might want to make the promotion to old gen less aggressive.

slim nymph
#

that sounds like it was because you had objects surviving tenuring is why that impacted pause times

#

if they died young they wouldnt impact pause time

void void
mild bolt
#

I like the PaperMC subreddit's description
"Lol xd"

upper flicker
#

we didnt make one

#

guess someone beat us to it

celest coyote
#

We don't even need one, we got actual forums, discord, and github

limber knotBOT
#

Wait there is paper subreddit?

upper flicker
#

Im sure its dead and empty

limber knotBOT
#

Ah yeah it's stupid clean and contains everything we need to know

peak dirge
#

@slim nymph what'd you recommend for this?

latent valve
#

"if they died young they wouldnt impact pause time" xD kekw

#

😂

peak dirge
#

that being said, our GC pause times used to be much worse

#

our tick times were also much worse

#

Now the tick times are something like a 1/3rd of what they were and the GC pauses are cut at least in half. Which is awesome.

void void
#

Ah sometimes I forget how brillant xkcd is
I'll probably never get bored of them

barren ember
void void
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) xkcd: An Apple a Day (10 June 2019)

hushed flame
crystal compass
#

Do i smell another sam in here

#

Hold my beer

reef hornet
rancid kelp
shy oracle
jagged egret
#

Is there a Material.UNKNOWN or something like that?

void void
#

no

#

there's null

slender jay
#

i hate regex .

limber knotBOT
#

hate regex equally to hate tacos

slender jay
#

nvm i figured it out

#

i love it until the next time i get stuck on something

jagged egret
#

Oh null works

limber knotBOT
#

Something weird in spigot / paper regex checking on book meta generation process

woven otter
#

StealTask::do_it huh

limber knotBOT
#

People can exploit some things to make server check the text too long

#

And kinda nobody cares about from 1.8 :P

woven otter
#

well you would kinda want to disable books in 1.8 anyways

void void
#

and disable signs

#

signs are effectively books but less efficient

woven otter
void void
#

there's exploits to gain OP using signs on 1.8 from what i remember, so ye signs are not good

#

miracle

latent valve
#

5 min later

void void
#

vipers a witch, burn him

woven otter
#

more like you work on your code for 15 minutes and nothing works

wide chasm
#

Just add unit tests and pray

bitter delta
jovial cloak
void void
#

i have to test a lot when i'm still working out what the hell i'm doing, but after that i'll test after adding a feature or two

wide chasm
#

I usually test every commit, unless I purely commit because I need to access the new code from somewhere else or as a backup.

void void
#

i'm a github illiterate, can't figure out for the life of me how to use it

wide chasm
#

I just hit Ctrl+K in IntelliJ and go from there.

void void
#

so for engineering i have to design a passive speaker for a smartphone

#

I'm gonna draw a glass

#

ngl sometimes the motto KISS: keep it simple stupid bites my teachers sometimes

merry talon
#

christ took them long enough

compact wasp
void void
#

one channel isn't enough for music huh

cosmic raft
#

nope

neat smelt
#

sounds bad

stuck skiff
heady lodge
bright onyx
celest coyote
#

great so now kash is also posting music on github

kindred storm
#

SpigotMC is down!

#

Legitimately

pulsar wigeon
#

smh

kindred storm
#

See the SpigotMC discord

#

Someone joined it and said Spigot has a vulnerability

cosmic raft
#

nobody cares

vernal moth
#

spigot is up and down all the time

kindred storm
#

They said they would help with the security

#

but that they needed to demonstrate or something

#

and then it went down

uncut moss
#

md_5 forgot to pay for the hosting

vernal moth
#

nobody cares

#

its just another ddos attack

granite salmon
#

rip

tardy jungle
#

f

neat smelt
#

@kindred storm happens from time to time

uncut moss
#

guys im ddosing google

#

will be down in 2 sec

tardy jungle
#

Oh god

latent valve
#

oooof

tardy jungle
#

imagine ddosing discord and all their servers

#

Heck

#

Imagine ddosing The whole internet itself

granite salmon
#

open 500 cmd

#

and do that

tardy jungle
#

Alright

neat smelt
#

oh hell no

#

pls not

#

pls dont destroy the internet peppis

tardy jungle
#

Ok

#

I’ll destroy um

#

my router

uncut moss
#

dafuq

tardy jungle
#

wat

slender jay
#

u got the kick

uncut moss
#

y tho

lapis sequoia
#

anyone else having issues accessing spigot

#

oh just scrolled up 🤔

cosmic raft
#

This is not the place to come to complain about another unrelated service being down. We do not have any control over it, and it is just annoying to hear over and over.

lapis sequoia
#

sorry kash lol i was just interested if anyone else had the same issue* or i should go throw my router at the wall lol

limber knotBOT
#

I mean, this is #general

#

runs

lapis sequoia
#

this is usually the place where server owners hang right lol

#

cuz paper is sexy

#

😂

uncut moss
#

@lapis sequoia cloudflare thing wouldn't show if it's your router's fault

limber knotBOT
#

throws a giant ball at phoenix616

#

that's why I'm running thinksmart

#

not fast enough

#

x|

nocturne sinew
#

[Metrics] Connection timed out (Connection timed out)

#

this comes up in console every now and then

limber knotBOT
#

yeah, MCStats has been down for ages

nocturne sinew
#

so its nothing

limber knotBOT
#

yeah, just ignore it

nocturne sinew
#

thanks

limber knotBOT
#

might want to see if the plugin has an update to remove the old stats or moved to bstats

void void
#

Is it just me or does phoenix run away a lot

#

Should be a chicken not a lamna

limber knotBOT
#

I mean, I'm a fire-chicken ;D

static badge
#

so llama's are useful for more than duping my shulker boxes

void void
celest coyote
#

llama spit intensifies

main rapids
#

.flags bot

limber knotBOT
celest coyote
#

edits don't work

main rapids
#

.optimize

limber knotBOT
static badge
#

which one of you fucks

#

kash

latent valve
#

Just make llama spit into unloaded chunk

void void
#

Does anyone experience slow to not loading the chunks at all, using no-tick-view-distance?

neat smelt
#

me

#

@wheat quarry you might want to read that

hidden chasm
limber knotBOT
#

I mean, he's just stating the same thing I'm experiencing so no need to ping me thonk

neat smelt
#

:thonk: sorry for wanting to help you

midnight ravine
void void
#

any solution?

uncut moss
#

it's aight

#

mine idles at 8gb

#

because that's what is always allocated to it

#

minimum?

#

well yeah that's what it's supposed to do

#

if you have xms 10g and xmx 10g it'll always use 10 gb

#

idk

void void
#

Wait 1.6

#

Old

uncut moss
#

1.6 isn't that old

void void
#

Its 10 versions ago

#

In software terms, its old

uncut moss
#

1.6 is 7 years old

#

almost

#

damn wtf

#

i thought it was like 4-5 max

void void
#

Exactly, that's long in IT

#

That's long in real life tbh

#

Didn't buy the new version?

#

This is why auto update exists

uncut moss
#

@still smelt classes should always be final unless you don't want them to be

#

like kotlin

#

well classes aren't like that in java and it's annoying

#

I make whatever should be final final

#

ok except in method parameters fuck that

#

i use it mostly for fields that are assigned in constructors

#

later versions of java are so much better

#

sucks that people are so fucking slow to update

#

there's already java 13

#

tbf some servers are on java 11 now

#

not nearly enough though

indigo maple
uncut moss
#

yeah ik

#

Java 15

#

wth

#

that's fast

#

yeah

#

i remember when 9 came out like yesterday

vestal jasper
#

Imagine those like 5 people running j7

uncut moss
#

tbh i barely know anything about java after 8, haven't bothered learning because I won't be using it for another 5 years

#

11 is LTS right?

#

that's why it's higher than 9 and 10

#

what

#

's even new in java 9

#

also what version was var introduced

#

9 doesn't have that many useful things

blazing nebula
#

well they added all the usefull things in 8

uncut moss
#

11 has some useful stuff

#

11 was in sep 2018, now there's 15

blazing nebula
#

theres 15?

uncut moss
#

yeahj

#

since like a week iirc

#

no nvm

#

not released yet

peak dirge
#

Java 8 is still preferred for a few reasons, namely the fact that Forge only works with Java 8

#

same deal with Sponge if memory serves me right

kindred storm
#

who uses Forge for a server

peak dirge
#

people who run modded servers

uncut moss
#

lots of stuff still only supports 8

kindred storm
#

sorry modded servers

peak dirge
#

which are a significant minority

kindred storm
#

but mods are not the future

uncut moss
#

i'm just happy i have lambda

kindred storm
#

can't accept vanilla clients running a modded server

wheat summit
#

hey are there certain sounds in minecraft that play at night

neat smelt
#

yes

#

ambient noise

wheat summit
#

lemme be exactly

#

music tracks

#

^^

peak dirge
#

point is, people still want to run modded servers, and Forge only supports Java 8

kindred storm
#

oh well, i guess they're going to miss out

wheat summit
#

im trying to make some nice music for my server and i would rather use native sound system

neat smelt
#

is java 11 a lot bettern than 8 ?

#

and in what terms

kindred storm
#

i'm still working on porting my own server to java 11

void void
#

Can't believe no one mentioned fabric

kindred storm
#

i need to fix some stuff with sun.misc.Unsafe

peak dirge
#

Yeah, Fabric exists

#

Java 11 has many more features but you have to adapt your code somewhat

kindred storm
#

because of modularisation ;-;

peak dirge
#

It also reduces heap consumption quite a bit

kindred storm
#

sun.misc.Cleaner also moved

upper flicker
#

forge works fine on 11 now

#

well modern forge

#

cant help you guys on ye olden versions

limpid steeple
static badge
#

kek ancient forge

peak dirge
#

I'm referring to 1.12.2, the new 1.7.10/1.8

upper flicker
#

lol their problem

kindred storm
#

and sun.misc.VM ;-;

peak dirge
#

and a lot of ancient modpacks are for 1.7 and 1.8

neat smelt
#

i kinda like modpacks

#

but most of them use ancient minecraft versions ):

uncut moss
#

a lot of modpacks for 1.12 though

neat smelt
#

1.12 tough...

uncut moss
#

tekkit classic is on mc 1.2

#

can't even run

main rapids
#

which host is good in south / north america?

waxen panther
#

yes

main rapids
#

@waxen panther peepoJuice

waxen panther
minor badge
#

reliablesite i suppose?

#

reliablesite is fine, expensive tho

broken brook
abstract rock
twin lagoon
#

relieablesite is meh

fallen oracle
#

You guys are making it sound like....

#

It's not that... reliable.

limber knotBOT
#

brain explodes

ashen cliff
#

You can update the bios yourself most of the time.

#

Did it on Hetzner, broke their recovery system, but it still booted.

#

Needed that memory OC.

#

As if you need that.

#

Flashrom exists.

#

Funny enough, X99 can do PCIe hotswap if you force it to... not a good thing to try without a expansion board tho.

fallen oracle
#

Hey Viper I accidentally declined your FR, was there something you needed?

#

friend request

#

Ahh

granite salmon
#

“Accidentally”

fallen oracle
#

I turn on an auto-clicker and just auto deny most of the time

wide chasm
#

Tip: Don't accept friend requests from people you recently kicked/banned

twin lagoon
#

ah but luckily glare accepted mine

wide chasm
#

I do, but I don't think wiz will :)

#

stēfvæñsçhîë

void void
#

Ey, I don't understand Italian?

#

Ah, cos I read rich da friend in toilet

#

My Italian to English is great ngl

#

Wait are there any Polish people on here?

#

Wait what

#

No

#

Might be germany

#

I mean we do have some pretty good candy

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11316372-the-candy-country -- The Candy Country by Louisa May Alcott: "The Candy Country book. Read 7 reviews from the world's largest community for readers. This book was converted from its physical edition to the..."

olive garden
#

we have polish brothers over here

void void
#

So other Polish?

olive garden
#

the brothers of the polish

void void
#

Russians?

#

I know we have russians here

olive garden
#

yeah, Czechoslovakia is one of the brothers

void void
#

Definelty US, Swedes, Italians, polish, English, russians, who else

#

Oh yeah there's Greeks here

granite salmon
#

Don’t forget me, I’m from Mars

void void
#

I only know Greece from the TV show the big bang theory

wide chasm
#

garbagemule is from Denmark

granite salmon
#

Danes!

void void
#

"Chard pieces of sweaty meat"

#

That's Greece to me

#

And Greek yoghurt and feta

wide chasm
#

I think kash is from Canada, but not sure

void void
#

Ye kash is prob canadian

#

Since he was sad about LTX being cancelled

wide chasm
#

pets Viper

#

There there

void void
#

Well were you going to fly to canada or smthin?

cosmic raft
#

@void void I am Canadian, yes

void void
#

Well stef was right then

cosmic raft
#

you mean Coronaville?

#

no

void void
#

Bring some to me then

ancient bolt
#

naming things is so hard

#

what's a name for a source database

#

like a database that's used as the source for other databases

void void
#

Oh waif I'm also in coronaville 2

cosmic raft
#

central

upper flicker
#

whats wrong with source

ancient bolt
#

source sounds like source code right

upper flicker
#

not inherently

cosmic raft
#

central, primary, source, cardinal

upper flicker
#

it kinda depends on whats around it

ancient bolt
#

but I guess in terms of a database that's fine

upper flicker
#

is it a class name is it function name is it a param

#

whats the context

#

etc

ancient bolt
#

It's literally a mariadb database schema name

upper flicker
#

is its only function to get copied to other DBs?

cosmic raft
#

"little_bobby_tables"

upper flicker
#

could use a word like template

ancient bolt
#

Well it's a base schema which, for example holds raw historical data for a data warehouse. It's used as the source data for data aggregation jobs which run and insert data into aggregate tables in another schema

#

I guess source is quit apt

cosmic raft
#

origin

ancient bolt
#

I thought of that, but then git 😮

#

software dev has already taken all the good words

cosmic raft
#

who cares about it being a git command :D

ancient bolt
#

s/command/default remote name/

cosmic raft
#

who cares about it being a git default remote name :D

jagged egret
#

@static badge accept frend request pls

static badge
#

why

jagged egret
#

i want to send u a dm

vestal jasper
eternal jungle
void void
#

Wait how come I can see hidden audio channels in discord mobile but not on desktop

#

Strange

jagged egret
#

wat

#

hm

marsh granite
void void
#

heck, java purists don't even look at var

#

"gotta see my types without an ide"

upper flicker
#

I think oracle's guidance on var is a good guide for anyone who wants to start using it

#

Dlang has its own version and they have some good advice on it as well

#

although they dont always follow it

cosmic raft
#

@void void that is me - if I see this:

var xyz = abc.foo();
xyz.bar();

idk wtf the type of xyz is to start looking around

#

i would have to then find what foo returns, etc

void void
#

without an ide, sure

cosmic raft
#

yes

cunning raft
#

the milliseconds it takes even in an IDE add up

cosmic raft
#

I open a surprising amount of things outside of an IDE :P

#

github, vscode, nano

upper flicker
#

pretty much no one recommends you use var for that

celest coyote
#

Dont forget an ide can break

void void
#

that's the downside of var yes, but uhh

cosmic raft
#

I see no upsides to var

void void
#

at some point you'll learn how the codebase works

twin lagoon
#

kashike you're using a tiling window manager

#

and you're not even using vim or emacs

void void
#

so you can mostly assume what's what imo

cunning raft
#

the only reason to use var is if you're lazy

void void
#

that's in my case

cosmic raft
twin lagoon
#

that is a fucking genius lifehack

void void
#

also using var-s drops the need of buying ultrawide monitor

celest coyote
#

I only use var for prototyping and then convert them afterwards to type

twin lagoon
#

fuck you visudo and git for opening in vi

upper flicker
#

certainly does when youre neck deep in generic hell

void void
#

to see your generic type with 6-8 type params ;)

cosmic raft
#

did someone say generic hell

void void
#

no

#

stop

cosmic raft
void void
#

we leave it

#

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

cunning raft
#

i guess var is like lombok

#

never use it in public code

cosmic raft
#

public final class BlockContentTypeLoader extends MultiTypeContentLoader<BlockGenre, ContentBlock, ContentBlock.Builder<ContentBlock, BlockStateDefinition, BlockStateDefinition.Builder<BlockStateDefinition>>, BlockContentProcessor<ContentBlock, ContentBlock.Builder<ContentBlock, BlockStateDefinition, BlockStateDefinition.Builder<BlockStateDefinition>>, BlockStateDefinition, BlockStateDefinition.Builder<BlockStateDefinition>>> implements Witness, MultiTypeContentLoader.Translated<BlockGenre> { for those who do not want to click

upper flicker
#

most of the bitching about var is from people who seem to think it's meant to be used for every declaration

void void
#

won't even fit on my utrawide

#

;-;

upper flicker
#

those people are wrong and can sit on java 6 for forever like the MC 1.8 people and mind their own business

void void
#

export EDITOR='nano'

#

sed 's/nano/emacsclient -nw/'

upper flicker
#

did they ever add a decent text editor to emacs?

cosmic raft
#

this is great though

#

everyone needs that

void void
#

no, emacs is still lisp engine

twin lagoon
#

emacs lul

upper flicker
#

all those tar flags can be yanked

#

tar is smart enough to figure it out now

void void
#

didn't i send something similar here

#

years ago

fallen oracle
#

Whoa it's an Enjin website

#

I haven't seen one of these since like 2015

void void
#

but yeah gnu tar can figure this out pretty easily

#

except zip

fallen oracle
#

Oh cool they have a TPS meter now

void void
#

what a great time to be awake

#

time to upgrade my systems

cosmic raft
#

the best thing is

#

that giant line I sent above

potent fossil
#

Hello kids

cosmic raft
#

in the new version, it is even better @void void

#

:3

#

public final class BlockLoader extends RootContentLoaderImpl<BlockType.Child, ContentBlockBuilder<?, ?, ?>> implements Listener {

potent fossil
upper flicker
#

how the fuck is arch's openjdk package still on 13

fallen oracle
#

Hey simple, how are exams?

upper flicker
#

reeeeee

#

not what I was promised dot jpeg

potent fossil
#

Got one due tomorrow haven't touched it

twin lagoon
#

@upper flicker just go for adoptopenjdk's aur package

waxen panther
fallen oracle
#

I'm only worrying about Calc II final

upper flicker
#

yeah thats probably what Ill do

void void
#

nixos had openjdk 13 for a long time too

#

smh

#

discovered today that they dropped jdk 13 and replaced it with 14

potent fossil
#

My prof is telling us it's too hard to grade our last exams bc remote

#

So idk what I got

void void
#

my custom jdk build borked with few hundred loud errors shaking my smh

upper flicker
#

well yeah they should drop 13

#

its unsupported upstream

potent fossil
#

I'm still on 8

void void
#

noob

potent fossil
#

I need to upgrade one of these days

upper flicker
#

8 still getting patches, 11 still getting patches

#

all the non-LTS stuff isnt though so if you wanna be on those you gotta keep up

potent fossil
#

Oic what you're on about now

#

What's the latest lts

void void
#

11

upper flicker
#

11

potent fossil
#

Aight

#

I'll go there

pulsar wigeon
#

i mean, 14 just came out a month ago

#

that's not a huge amount of time for 13 to be outdated

upper flicker
#

plenty of time to repackage it though

cosmic raft
#

packages Z up in a box and ships it to @potent fossil

upper flicker
#

no pls

cosmic raft
#

too late

void void
#

inb4 zimple sends back

cosmic raft
#

you are flying to him on united airlines too

#

so stay in the box or get rekt

potent fossil
#

rejected by customs

#

Ugh I wish my trip wasn't cancelled

#

Shit sucks.

cosmic raft
#

this is terrible news

#

now how will i get postcards

patent sleet
slender jay
tawny owl
#

flexbox is love

knotty flint
waxen panther
#

this is getting out of hand

#

now there are two of them

slender jay
#

oh dear

static badge
#

wonder who that is :>

waxen panther
frail lynx
jagged egret
#

Does anyone know why the jetbrains toolbox firefox extension would not be working? It says "prevented navigation due to an unknown protocol" in the developer console. Not sure how to fix it

ocean swan
knotty kelp
cunning raft
#

@knotty kelp you the real techlead?

quasi iris
#

heh
don't drive on meds
luckily i had karlesha with me so i didn't have an anxiety attack but i accidentally drove down the wrong side of the road twice and jumped the divider once

jagged egret
#

hey how do I fix this? error: sha1 information is lacking or useless (src/main/java/org/bukkit/Server.java). when trying to build Paper

cunning raft
#

it's intended

#

not your fault

jagged egret
#

I dont think it is, it fails to complete

cunning raft
#

do you get more errors?

pulsar wigeon
#

delete dir and reclone, don't use windows, etc etc

jagged egret
#

no

#

using Ubuntu

#

windows is trash

cunning raft
jagged egret
#

trying recloning now :)

waxen panther
fallen oracle
#

Makes sure you're on JDK 8.

jagged egret
#

that was it Glare thx

fallen oracle
#

My guess is you were on 11 or something. I've been told there were issues if you weren't compiling on JDK 8.

jagged egret
#

yep, was on 11

#

jinxed myself the issue persists after changing the default to 8

#

maybe i have to restart the gradle daemon

#

ye it's still not working ;-;

cunning raft
#

errors?

#

actually just give a full log

jagged egret
#

ah it's working now, was running it from IntelliJ and running from a console works fine so far knocks on wood

pulsar wigeon
waxen panther
#

PepegaJ

jagged egret
#

here's the log

cunning raft
#

asking for support with toothpick

#

in paper discord

#

smh

#

@vernal moth ^^

jagged egret
#

It's Paper but with mojang remappings, I figured it'd be the same process 🙃 sry lol

cunning raft
#

It uses gradle

#

And does some fuckery with paper's patches

#

It's a cool project

#

but not supported

jagged egret
#

Ah

pulsar wigeon
#

ffs lmao

#

what the fuck is wrong with people

still cape
#

too much

pulsar wigeon
#

no don't fucking roll your eyes at me

#

why the fuck would you omit the fact that you're not even using paper when asking for help

#

it's not even about asking for help with other things

#

it's about blatantly hiding shit and pretending that it's the same

jagged egret
#

well forgive me I thought they were similar enough

pulsar wigeon
#

you ask for tuinity support here too?

jagged egret
#

the heck is tuinity

pulsar wigeon
#

pretending it's paper?

#

smh

jagged egret
#

ok, i learned I'm wrong, and I apologize for doing that, can you chill now please

pulsar wigeon
#

oh fuck off lmao

#

don't tell me to chill

jagged egret
cunning raft
#

only way wiz chills is if you ping em

uncut osprey
pallid karma
full silo
lucid pewter
heady plume
frank tangle
stiff yarrow
#

installing arch makes you feel like a hackerman everytime

cunning raft
waxen panther
pulsar wigeon
#

^

quasi iris
#

oh

#

hahah I forgot I already sent it

#

nevermind then

waxen panther
#

lol

vestal jasper
#

spigot pls

#

this is not how you website

pulsar wigeon
#

css is for chumps

celest coyote
#

no css > styling

vestal jasper
#

I mean yeah I'd prefer css didn't exist as well but this is a little much

celest coyote
#

I spent a day recently styling an HTML email, its truly horrible

#

styling a button is literally the hardest thing

ancient bolt
#

This rust type Lazy<ReentrantMutex<RefCell<Maybe<StderrRaw>>>>

blazing nebula
#

Wtf

mighty flower
#

I know this is the paper discord but I loaded up tacospigot and there are unloaded chunks scattered across the map, any thoughts?

magic ice
mighty flower
#

sorry that I like good performance lol

ancient bolt
#

Is someone maintaining tacospigot or something

#

Or is tech out there in the shadows batman maintaining it

#

or are you just still on like 1.12

mighty flower
#

mate I'm on 1.8 🤣

mighty flower
#

hey that's what the players want and that's what gets the best performance

#

but seriously if anyone knows what might be causing it please lmk

waxen panther
#

lol

fallen canopy
frail lynx
#

for the motd, how do you add a second line to it?

#

is there a code for it?

thorny token
#

hi!

tame pendant
#

@frail lynx Use \n as the "new line" key

frail lynx
#

oh okay thanks

void void
polar sonnet
#

ah eys ingame mysql dumping via litebans

#

mmm

void void
#

eyyyyyyy

woven otter
#

Server owners should stop giving people what they want for the sake of developers

empty mantle
keen socket
void void
half flax
#

hello

humble latch
half flax
#

yea

toxic umbra
void void
void void
thorny sapphire
vague hemlock
raven dome
wide chasm
#

Surprisingly Assembly is very low, even though it's much more difficult than some languages that rank higher.

ornate cipher
void void
#

but its popularity has gone downhill sadly

#

no matter the pay

#

if graalvm's native-image starts working better then clojure's popularity might increase again a bit tbh

robust tiger
#

🤔

ashen cliff
#

[ALT] [F4]

void void
#

[ALT] [F4] for free diamonds

robust tiger
#

whaaaat

twin lagoon
#

wat

ashen cliff
#

Another thing people will sell for money.

void void
#

monetize everything

#

ok

ashen cliff
#

Not ok.

ashen cliff
#

Hand switching... maybe?
But we already have that, somewhat.

uncut moss
#

fucking discord doesn't scroll down

vernal moth
#

Isn't that just new advancements?

#

Lol

solar spruce
livid abyss
ashen cliff
opal topaz
wide chasm
#

Done, thanks

arctic marsh
pulsar wigeon
#

i was sleeping smh

dapper nacelle
#

lmao

#

idk why I find this so amusing

void void
#

gg

#

google is killing off their music service

dapper nacelle
#

what is google music

limber knotBOT
#

lol