general

[tropic flame]

i guess i might have to go through the process of ditching this damn email lmao

im tired of this

lmao i don't get emails for passsword resets but i get security alerts for having logged into the account

beautiful

[cedar spade]

MS might as well swap the names of Inbox and Junk

[tropic flame]

I checked the junk email, it was empty

[cedar spade]

I don't use my Outlook.com email any more but every time I check it, my inbox is full of spam and my junk folder is full of everything except for spam

[void void]

haha yes

literally

even my self hosted email has less junk

outlook is horrible, to bad i have to cos school

[severe sand]

dont mind me just need to boast about my (currently) barebones uhc plugin that i made in 7 hours https://github.com/Vonr/RubiksUHC

[void void]

i expected way less from open source spam rejecting solutions tbh

yeah stick that plugin up to your arse, this is not the place

[severe sand]

;(

[void void]

damn mark

[left swift]

Anotha one

A uhc fork of a fork of a fork of a fork of stolen code

[severe sand]

i didnt steal any code lol

thats why its so barebones

[void void]

why did you make a plugin for a server you're very inactive on?

[severe sand]

and why it took 7 hours to make it barebones

why not java is fun

[severe sand]

thats literally a library

its canvas

[pliant quiver]

so this is all your code?

[severe sand]

yes

[vernal moth]

why don't you use maven to depend on that lib?

wait, you do

[severe sand]

i did but intellij screamed at me

[vernal moth]

why is the source still in there?

[pliant quiver]

i think that lib doesn't have maven repository

[severe sand]

so i just added it manually

[void void]

i'm suprised the csgo anticheat isn't catching that cheat you're helping on

[pliant quiver]

and your plugin depend 100% on it

[severe sand]

kek nirvana

off topic af

@pliant quiver it literally is a chest gui helper

i use it twice

[void void]

you asked us to look at your github

[severe sand]

i linked a specific repo

¯_(ツ)_/¯

whatever idc

[pliant quiver]

and you can use maven-shade-plugin

[void void]

last i heard you had to have a fancy pcie card to view your pc's ram with csgo

meh i don't like csgo anyway

they literally don't want me to play

[pliant quiver]

csgo is cool if you are playing with your team

[left swift]

Toxic players get placed with toxic players

Trust factor works for me

VAC is good

[void void]

it won't let me pass the training map thing

i'm too slow

[severe sand]

asian players like me get placed with a ton of cheaters causing us to develop even more cheats

ive pretty much stopped playing though

[left swift]

Yeah it's a rough world

[pliant quiver]

VAC is really good

[left swift]

Is esea or faceit available in asia?

[severe sand]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[left swift]

Or is there an equivalent

[severe sand]

never cared about the game

[left swift]

I c

[void void]

why would you develop cheats for a game you don't care about?

[left swift]

Money probably

[severe sand]

my friends play it lol

and i need to learn c++

that wasnt a very good experience though

cos im bad at it

ill learn it properly some other day

[pliant quiver]

you need to learn OOP

[severe sand]

at least with java it was easy to learn with forge and fabric

[left swift]

And I oop

[pliant quiver]

nobody code like this

[severe sand]

guess im nobody

ill split up the classes in the future

i was just trying to pump it out quickly

[left swift]

He did say he only made it in 7 hours

[pliant quiver]

and depend 100% on 3rd party library

[void void]

i'd say first learn to code properly before doing speed challenges

[severe sand]

mango

the library

draws guis

it draws fuckin guis

i dont need it but the owner wants it

[pliant quiver]

You can use Bukkit#createInventory

[left swift]

[severe sand]

ive never touched bukkit or spigot properly before this lmao

idk what im doing

the plugin works so idc

ill work on making it better

but im not about to go from 0 to like 85 in 7 hours

[void void]

you weren't expecting this response were you

[severe sand]

expecting what response

criticism im fine with lmao

but without context its strange

[pliant quiver]

12h

[severe sand]

coolio

[pliant quiver]

so you must learn bassic first

UHC plugin is not easy

[severe sand]

i already have plenty forge and fabric experience

and maybe it isnt but it already works lol

[pliant quiver]

So you have experience at Minecraft mods?

[severe sand]

yep

i made one dysfunctional plugin before this

[pliant quiver]

hmm that's nice

[severe sand]

took me an hour max

and didnt test

so this is my first real one

[pliant quiver]

i just know how to write java but don't know how to use library

[severe sand]

also im probably not supposed to use System.out.println lmao

[pliant quiver]

we use getLogger() with log4j system

i think forge, fabric (minecraft things) was introduce about that for debug stuff

[severe sand]

my modding experience gives a decent headstart at bukkit stuff but mappings are very different

also still have to learn some new stuff

for example my overworld definition is hardcoded to "world" right now and i dont like that

and i havent made a config yet

[pliant quiver]

forge depends on minecraft client and bukkit depends on minecraft server

[severe sand]

yeah theres some overlap in between though

cos its both minecraft

[pliant quiver]

and i think there isn't a lot of different between server and client

[severe sand]

ill say its a lot more annoying to manipulate itemstacks

other than that its quite simple at my current level

though as far as im concerned this plugin is probably gonna be my first and only project

[pliant quiver]

well there isn't different

[severe sand]

no but you dont have to implement Listener

[void void]

forge oofers

[severe sand]

which caught me off guard

[cosmic raft]

https://youtu.be/np3KnM_jweI

[limber knot]

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[pliant quiver]

it's just a interface lol

[void void]

another one

[severe sand]

didnt expect to need to implement it

[left swift]

[pliant quiver]

it need to register listeners so if they didn't want to waste time for it they would prefer to use interface class

[cosmic raft]

:)

[severe sand]

oh right also need to register it into bukkit's event bus thing

that confused me too but i should have expected that tbh

[pliant quiver]

yes they don't want to waste them time but i think it doesn't need as that much

because they have @EventHandler annotaitions

[severe sand]

anyways getting late ill probably work on config tomorrow and if i have free time ill try to make the in game editor

cya

[pliant quiver]

yeah

[solar meteor]

does anyone know the command to move all my npcs to my current location at once?

we have done it by mistake in the past 🙂 i cant remember what the command was

[void void]

what plugin even

[jolly oasis]

is this essentials?

the afk thing

[void void]

probably not

[void void]

would never know

this thing can be done by practically anything

[void void]

i'm seeing a cat revolution

[gleaming rivet]

oh damn bashtop looks nice

anyone using it?

[twin lagoon]

gimmick

[gleaming rivet]

mhm?

[twin lagoon]

it's a gimmick

do you really ever need all of that information fancily displayed

no

[pulsar wigeon]

but mah pretty colors

[limber knot]

might as well use a real OS at that point xdddddddddddddddd

[gleaming rivet]

xD

[jagged egret]

Can I connect a video card without connecting the 8-pin power connector?

*can I test

[latent valve]

some card will start some wont

[jagged egret]

Or I have a 6-pin, can I use that to test it?

[twin lagoon]

most cards will need it

[latent valve]

iirc u cant put 6 pin in 8 pin xD

[void void]

don't risk with such shit

you'll probably end up burning something down

[jagged egret]

I just want to know if it'll work with my old mobo before I buy a new PSU

[void void]

some level of try-it-and-see and wouldn't-risk-with-it

[rough swift]

just as a general question and im sure may of you have knowledge of the plugin GriefPrevention. I've just installed it and the plugin won't allow anyone to break/place blocks? What do I need to enable and where?

[void void]

.g griefprevention wiki

[limber knot]

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[jagged egret]

6 pin fits in an 8 pin

[rough swift]

cheers

[jagged egret]

The recommended PSU is 485 watts but I only have 460 rn

[visual shale]

anyone need a free paper host?

[warm anchor]

This is probably the worse possible place for you to advertise

[magic ice]

i got a good paper host

[warm anchor]

😂

[stiff yarrow]

You can connect it the GPU will just be underpowered and not really be able to game @jagged egret

[spice finch]

@jagged egret for me RX480 didn't start on 6pin

I had 650W PSU but only 6pin

and it started for a second and turned off

on 8pin and new psu it worked fine

[void void]

iso it's really unlikely that the gpu would be incompattible with your motherboard if they have the same slot

so unless you're plugging in a 3dfx voodoo it should work

tho ye, you need an 8 pin power supply cable
and i'd upgrade that power supply unless you underclock that gpu

[stiff yarrow]

Some gpus can operate with just mobo power but they won’t be able to do what they are supposed to

[void void]

ye, tho the ones just on mobo power are just 1050 ti's or weaker, if they need a power supply cable then they rarely work without it

[neat yoke]

Does anyone know he 1.14 equivalent to the 1.12.2 (World world)? I heard WorldServer is a possibility..?

[lofty gorge]

Hey guys

I just downloaded paper into my server, it seemed to have auto installed bukkit as well

and I'm getting permissions errors

[void void]

auto installed bukkit

[lofty gorge]

for example, when I look at my permissions folder, it's empty?

😮

[void void]

paper is in fact bukkit implementation

[lofty gorge]

any tips on how to fix this permissions issue?

[void void]

permissions folder?

what

[lofty gorge]

my account on my sever seems to not have access to performing any commands

sec

I'll send you a screenshot of the files that paper created after I ran my server

Mind the server name lmao

[void void]

permissions folder?

can't even see a folder named permissions

[lofty gorge]

It's emptyu

[void void]

that's a file

and that's how it works

[lofty gorge]

yeah, a file

so now what?

where the hell do I find permissions / how to set it up

I'm brand new to this stuff lol

[void void]

do you even know what that file does?

[lofty gorge]

I should

although it's empty

Permissions.

?!

[void void]

.g bukkit permissions.yml

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[lofty gorge]

ty

[void void]

it's not what you think it does

install a permissions plugin

[lofty gorge]

defaults would work I'm sxure

[void void]

luckperms

[lofty gorge]

luckperms it is, sec

any recommended posts before I google how?

[void void]

how what

[pastel pivot]

Why doesn't md host bungee on stash? Just curious ..

[void void]

no need to

cb & spigot are on stash because of dmca-d code it contains i guess

[pastel pivot]

I thought so, but does hosting cb and spigot on stash solve legal issues at all?

[vernal moth]

no

its just that he has more control

[lofty gorge]

ok

installed luckperms

now I need to look up how tf to configure it lol

any recommended forum posts before I begin to google?

[marsh mountain]

@lofty gorge https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/wiki

[lofty gorge]

thanks

[marsh mountain]

stonar96Today at 20:50
I thought so, but does hosting cb and spigot on stash solve legal issues at all?

MiniDiggerToday at 20:53
no
its just that he has more control
So the only reason Spigot lets you sign a CLA and does not have it on github is because of more control?

[waxen panther]

the cla is only for making pr's and viewing prs irrc

nothing to do with looking at the code

[vernal moth]

the cla is for contributors, who could have known

[waxen panther]

@still smelt

[ashen cliff]

Old man yells at update noises: https://posili.me/i/2020-05-09_21-02-20.png

[vernal moth]

not everyone loves to spam

whats so bad about that?

[marsh mountain]

But then why is it Spigot let's you sign a CLA, and paper just has everyone doing their thing if they want to? (Or I totally missed the thing that paper has)

[vernal moth]

because an open source project with a proper license shouldn't require a CLA

[marsh mountain]

But then why has Spigot one? 😕

[slim nymph]

up to 17k entities on my server atm

[magic ice]

what's your tps at?

[marsh mountain]

With a good TPS?

[slim nymph]

12 lol

[waxen panther]

f

[marsh mountain]

I mean 17k is still a lot.

😄

[lofty gorge]

so I downloaded luckperms...

My permissions folder is still empty lmao

And this github is huge

I don't have the time to read this all over rightnow.

I just wanted to download worldedit for a couple of irl friends lol

now it's turning into an extensive project.

D:

wdym?

[fallen oracle]

Morning

[lofty gorge]

idk what that means lol

[worthy zenith]

if you just want a server with world edit for a few friends, then throw worldedit on, op all your friends and call it a day

[lofty gorge]

How do I OP all of my friends?

[worthy zenith]

in the console /op <name>

[lofty gorge]

I'm a str8 noob with this shit

doesn't allow me /work

[pulsar wigeon]

without / tho

[worthy zenith]

right

[lofty gorge]

didn't work lmao

just posted into my chat

[waxen panther]

in the console

[lofty gorge]

ffs

that'd solve my fucking day

there we go

thank you for that!

[waxen panther]

npp

[fallen oracle]

Wizzz

[void void]

why do you want to do that

[pulsar wigeon]

lmfao

[celest coyote]

just use api with sockets or some other communication???

[pulsar wigeon]

client side anticheat 🚮

[celest coyote]

wait are you injecting into server or client?

ok nevermind what I said then

[void void]

well injecting without special jvm flags gets tricky

https://stackoverflow.com/a/38950616

or not so tricky

[vernal moth]

pretty sure you can't on java 11 without the selfattach flag

[void void]

mojang still ships java 8

smh

[vernal moth]

client side anti cheat is dum

cause I can like just look at what the server expect

and make my cheat client send "hey am totally not a cheat client btw"

[void void]

theorerically possible but near clusterfuck level

[vernal moth]

lets make a deal

you implement this

and ill crack it before you publish it

if am bored, sure 😄

[waxen panther]

mini boutta end a career

Machine learning is a very overused term nowadays, they more mean they track what things flag as a cheat and then use that data to further influence the anticheat

[uncut moss]

@waxen panther i'm pretty sure there's anticheats (at least one) with actual ML

also obfuscation bad

open source good

yeah

[uncut moss]

obfuscation doesn't help for shit lol

[vernal moth]

its not hard, lol

[waxen panther]

def would not be impossible to bypass

[vernal moth]

but like, you want to have a custom launcher most likely

[uncut moss]

what's even the point of string encryption is minecraft plugins

like what secrets do strings bear

..hardcoded passwords?

[void void]

well there kinda is point - to waste time

lol

[void void]

both obf time and decompiler's

[uncut moss]

isn't there already client side anticheats available

[vestal jasper]

I mean obf helps piss me off when someone's shitty plugin breaks and I decide to fix it. Delays the process a good bit.

[uncut moss]

scanning which files?

[vestal jasper]

Yeah and they'll mod their client to return a sanitized or forged list

[uncut moss]

well yeah

...which minecraft files

[limber knot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVXKKaWJTls

[uncut moss]

so they can just have their client load shit from another path then

[vestal jasper]

Also

Closed source and obfd
It's like people don't know the thing they're writing plugins for is a giant closed source and obfd program that people still bypassed.

[uncut moss]

also looking for bad files in .minecraft will just false positive all over the place

having an xray installation doesn't have to mean somebody has used it in 4 years

[vestal jasper]

I mean that's not a false positive in the sense that they have something installed to cheat

It is in the sense that they're not using it tho

[uncut moss]

true, but it's not a viable method

[vestal jasper]

Either way it's dum and your users will hate you for it

[uncut moss]

i have a shit ton of hacked clients in my .minecraft folder

don't really use them though

[vestal jasper]

In practice it's not "cheat file found, ur cheating"

[uncut moss]

also if a server asked me to download some third party thing to verify i'm not cheating i'd nope the fuck out

[vestal jasper]

I use questionable mods to help moderate and build that I'm sure a client sided AC would flag as bad

[vernal moth]

well, you would make it optional

and a special queue for "verified non cheaters"

or some other way to encourage usage

[void void]

client sided ac could technically work if it was basically passive

[uncut moss]

too much work for 12 year old server owners to implement

[vestal jasper]

And yeah if the options are your files get scanned or your files don't get scanned I'm sure people will lean towards the latter

[void void]

e.g it would not block player instantly and simply notify administrators that yo that's susp

and what's susp

[vestal jasper]

@vernal moth and ac bypasses become a thing making the whole effort meaningless

[vernal moth]

I know

am just saying how you would do it

[uncut moss]

having a program scanning my files and sending it off to some server somewhere

[vestal jasper]

True

[rich thorn]

do guardians count as part of the monsters or water animal mob cap

[vestal jasper]

Also game proxies are a thing. I've built them to bypass plugin related bs before

[void void]

there are plenty of theoretical ways to pull client side ac off properly, just have to think everything through imo

[uncut moss]

@rich thorn #paper-help

[vestal jasper]

There's even a game once semi famous for pretty much half it's player base using network proxies to modify behaviour

[void void]

that's one answer

[uncut moss]

just mod the thing you have to install to verify you're not cheating lol

[void void]

mitm zbk

in the end it's simply whack-a-mole game tbh

[vestal jasper]

What mikro said

[vernal moth]

well, gonna use ssl with cert pinning and shit

[void void]

^ ye

[vernal moth]

its not impossible

[void void]

well

[vernal moth]

and you can make it very hard

[void void]

you can do mitm client side tho

[vestal jasper]

It's actually dead easy on Linux to reroute requests

[vernal moth]

but it will be broken

[void void]

it is

[vernal moth]

if the client properly validates SSL you can't mitm

[void void]

if you mod the client

and there we go again

client cannot be trusted in the end

[vestal jasper]

Mod the client 🦀

[vernal moth]

yeah that assumes you can mod the client

[void void]

you always can though

[vernal moth]

you would implement the sending in like assembly or some shit 😂

[void void]

people will always find a way

[vernal moth]

sure it doesnt matter

[uncut moss]

are we still talking about the client side ac thing

[vernal moth]

but it will make it way harder

[vestal jasper]

It's java. You can mod the client. Even if it was machine code people have been pretty handy.

Yes we are

[uncut moss]

it can't scan your whole file system so just don't have anything malicious in your .minecraft folder and you're set

[void void]

many people don't run mc from .minecraft tho

see: custom launchers such as multimc

[uncut moss]

ok, don't have the malicious files in whatever place the client is ran from

[void void]

that's also kinda bs to check

[vernal moth]

if you get access to the running minecraft client, getting the data folder isnt hard

[void void]

basically in client side ac you would really check the client and the files it accesses only; do verification/analyzis what the client is doing

[vestal jasper]

Check wherever assets are pulled. Except things can be loaded from elsewhere still.

[uncut moss]

i know but couldn't clients run the client from one place and then load everything from another?

[void void]

it gets hairy pretty quick but there we go

it's already better than blatantly banning for having one susp file

[vestal jasper]

Some ACs do

[uncut moss]

also what if i just do some firewall thing that doesn't give the anti cheat access to a folder, will it say i'm cheating?

[vestal jasper]

Some ACs check for attached debuggers, too.

Ok most do who am I kidding

[uncut moss]

csgo doesn't care about debuggers

[void void]

also what if i just do some firewall thing that doesn't give the anti cheat access to a folder, will it say i'm cheating?

depends on ac lol

same

[uncut moss]

@void void there's no good way around that

[vestal jasper]

Same

[uncut moss]

assuming i'm cheating because i've protected a folder

[void void]

that's dumb thing to do anyway?

[uncut moss]

what is?

[void void]

labeling player as a cheater if it can't access a folder?

[uncut moss]

yeah that's what i'm saying

[vestal jasper]

UFW, Uncomplicated FileWall

[void void]

you can make things a lot more reasonable than most of the shit you've seen around

so basically we run into rootkit topic

[uncut moss]

so what is the AC gonna do if it doesn't have read access to some folder, either say i'm cheating or not let me get verified

both options would be stupid

[void void]

latter option is better - it won't get you verified

and thus you can't play

[uncut moss]

still bad

[void void]

if verification is required

[vestal jasper]

I love this conversation. Boils down to "cat and mouse game" and "oh god not rootkits"

[uncut moss]

also i'm pretty sure there's ways to deny elevated programs read access

to stuff

[void void]

still bad
i mean... it's bad because you're simply fucking with it?

"hurr i poke bear i shouldn't get mauled"

and then

oh no welp ac bad i got mauled

:D

[vestal jasper]

pokes @void void

[uncut moss]

vac is shit lol

my shitty ayyware paste never got me banned, used that for a good year

[void void]

mauls @vestal jasper

[vestal jasper]

AAAAAA

[uncut moss]

i just took some source code of some ayyware, removed 85% of the features and added a tiny amount of stuff and never got banned

[vestal jasper]

Just release hack tools as an undercover game dev and broadcast to server that the client is hacking.

[void void]

kek

[uncut moss]

honestly that'd be effective as hell

[void void]

there are plenty valid reasons to run anticheats - not everybody has time or brain capacity to work around them; there was one valid reason above for example

yeah but then theres the 10,000 other skids who use the same dll
^ tada

[uncut moss]

if valve released some giant source code for some cheat, the 9 year olds would never find 5 lines of codes that sent something to valve servers lol

[vestal jasper]

There's an anti piracy strat pretty similar. Release "cracked" version of your game that's unplayable so people out themselves as pirates on forums. Gamedevtycoon did it.

[void void]

old PREY iirc did that

i think?

[rough swift]

when making a server, why are 2 versions of the world made and what is the difference. example.. survival=survival and world=survival ?

[uncut moss]

stormworks had sharks always attacking your boats if you pirated the game, which also made the game unplayable

[void void]

you were looking like a pirate

[vestal jasper]

Your game dev studio would go bankrupt due to pirates every time and people would whine about it on the forums lol

[uncut moss]

AC origins has shit performance because of the DRM

that game didn't get cracked for a long time though

[gentle nest]

some people try pirated games first, to see if they like them, some people play pirated games because of performance, and some people are just pirates

[vestal jasper]

Imo once your game is fully cracked you should just yeet the DRM

[gentle nest]

^

[vestal jasper]

It served it's purpose and solely degrades experience at that point

[void void]

That super Mario PC port is great

[vestal jasper]

The best anti piracy are good and easily accessible games.

[uncut moss]

took 99 days for AC origins to get cracked

that's damn long

[void void]

Imo once your game is fully cracked you should just yeet the DRM
ye like doom 2016 did

though doom eternal did weird oopsie too lol

distributed non-drmed exe

kek

.g doom eternal no drm exe

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[vestal jasper]

[uncut moss]

unlike spigot plugins, DRM on games after release make sense

[vestal jasper]

Mfw drm on spigot plugins

[uncut moss]

well i meant more like obfuscation and shit

[vestal jasper]

There's a spigot plugin that will phone home, block MT, and retry for a full minute on startup if it can't phone home.

If it gets a bad response from home, it unloads itself and it deletes its own jar.

[void void]

lol wat

name?

[waxen panther]

wtf

[void void]

that's against the tos

[vestal jasper]

Procosmetics

[uncut moss]

how the fuck does one delete its own jar

[void void]

tos in spigot forums, that is

.g procosmetics

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[vestal jasper]

I reported it. Nothing happened.

Md doesn't care.

[uncut moss]

download another jar that deletes the jar?

or what

[void void]

.g spigot tos

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[vestal jasper]

No it just deletes itself

[uncut moss]

how does that work

[void void]

code simply deletes itself

unlinks the file

poof

[vestal jasper]

^

[uncut moss]

also how does that help

[void void]

like you'd delete any other file

.g spigot premium resource guidelines

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[uncut moss]

if you wanted to use it just decompile it and remove that part?

[vestal jasper]

It's the reason I made a MITM for plugins. I paid for it, fuck you.

[void void]

hmmh

seems like allowed... ?

[uncut moss]

nah

i thought resources had to work without internet connection

[void void]

All resources must run directly from downloaded file without any manual installation steps or access to a specific server. This means that licensing systems of any form are prohibited.

no manual stuff: ✅
access to a specific server: ❓
licensing system: ❓

[vestal jasper]

It will run without internet. It just delays startup by a minute or more while it desparately attempts to phone home multiple times.

[uncut moss]

well you said that if it fails it'll fucking blow itself up

[vestal jasper]

Which imo interferes with the server

[void void]

They must not interfere with any aspect of the server outside of the plugin itself.

technically...

it deletes itself

[vestal jasper]

It blows itself up under specific conditions. Not if it can't phone home.

[void void]

and that's not interfering with server directly

[uncut moss]

what conditions?

[vestal jasper]

It's been a while idr

[void void]

i mean according to tos it seems to be valid... dunno

[vestal jasper]

It's technically valid it's just a buncha bullshit

[waxen panther]

a lot of the spigot plugin tos is pretty dunno

[vestal jasper]

I had the plugin on a test network and it kept doing a bunch of bullshit

[uncut moss]

make that request go straight back to your own server and have it return something the plugin likes

[vestal jasper]

@void void to top it all off? If you're verified on their discord and you go over license limit they'll ping you publicly and say it happened.

[void void]

well that's tricky if validation is pulled off correctly

bruh

[uncut moss]

if it is that's too much effort for a minecraft plugin jfc

[warm anchor]

Do they come to your house and burn your PC down as well?

[uncut moss]

probably

or just blow up the whole datacenter your server is in

[waxen panther]

Probably send a email to your mom too

[void void]

"open wide i'm coming"

if it is that's too much effort for a minecraft plugin jfc
honestly doing PKI is not too much effort lel

[gentle nest]

didn't maximvdw add sth like a validation check on his plugins

[void void]

or well PKI is wrong terminology tbh

[vestal jasper]

Here's from their discord

[void void]

🤢

but yeah you can supply public key with plugin jar

[uncut moss]

trying to bypass piracy at all in a spigot plugin is kinda too much effort

[waxen panther]

Cube Development - Always the best!

[uncut moss]

ain’t gonna work anyway

[vestal jasper]

There we go

[void void]

those one-two people who know how to crack the plugin; for them yes anti piracy ain't gonna work

this is basically never ending topic

[uncut moss]

OS better

[vestal jasper]

We could brainstorm AC design and bypasses all year

There's people whose job it is to design ACs, even

[uncut moss]

there's plenty

there's people whose job is to bypass them as well

[void void]

noshit

and those people get paid pretty well

[uncut moss]

just hack google and get a $1.5 mil bounty

ez

pz

i saw starbucks giving somebody $50k for finding an API key in a public github repo

damn lucky

[stiff yarrow]

Only 50k

[uncut moss]

might've been more idk

but you could use it to get free shit so it was valuable

[stiff yarrow]

Seems low for a bug bounty of that scale

[uncut moss]

i wouldn't complain getting $50k from looking through a github repo tho

[stiff yarrow]

True

Imagine putting drm in a spigot plugin

[uncut moss]

b-but my billions of dollars lost on people getting my premium resource for free

[void void]

no lambo, fuck

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/681456110120468493/708787865420562443/unknown.png

69

nice

[uncut moss]

being a poor student

stumbling upon a string in a github repo

getting $50k

[void void]

ye so you could eat noodles 4 times a day instead of 1

[uncut moss]

no that's a stretch

[void void]

what an upgrade to be honest

[uncut moss]

poor guy who put that in there to begin with probably got some shit

[void void]

ye probs got cucked

big f

[uncut moss]

wtf is that word

that is the opposite of append

oh omit

[limber knot]

@void void that's using openj9 lol

[limber knot]

I shared my script cuz I wanted to show how unusable by most others it'd be lol

[void void]

@void void that's using openj9 lol
@RoboMWM#0000 bruh u replied 1 day late

[limber knot]

welcome to IRC bruh

idle chat

[limber knot]

and whenever I feel like responding

is when you'll get a response

[void void]

ok but I made my own script

[limber knot]

kewl

[void void]

https://lraivisto.com/start

[limber knot]

dahek is dis

google docs download?

[void void]

start.sh download

Honestly this is silly

:D

[limber knot]

hasteb.in

[void void]

it dosent work 4 me

[limber knot]

how do I get into nextdoor without giving them a phone number

[brazen bane]

Hi there. Is there a way to turn off achievements on a server?

[warm anchor]

yes

[uncut moss]

you can turn off the announcing with a gamerule iirc

[jagged egret]

Is there a way to have two users using windows 10 at the same time? Via remote desktop or something?

[uncut moss]

doubt that

[jagged egret]

Like can I game on two accounts at once?

Don't think that'll work

[brazen bane]

@uncut moss I hope it's okay, that I tagged u.
What do you mean with gamerules?
How do I add those, sorry for asking haha :d

[void void]

no windows does not allow that

iso

[jagged egret]

:(

[void void]

that's not even supported on win server

[pulsar wigeon]

it does kinda

[uncut moss]

@brazen bane /gamerule

[void void]

iirc logging in on rdp logged out an user behind actual display

diff users, that is

[uncut moss]

intellij has a button to go to injection points from guice modules but not the other way around

😦

no

[void void]

this is not the place

mooooooooooods

[uncut moss]

Nobody's gonna give you money for "starting a project"

[static badge]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee mods

[uncut moss]

relying on donations is stupid

just rip off 10 year olds with premium resources instead, much more fun

[marsh mountain]

Why?

[uncut moss]

nah me neither

issa joke

or well i have but not publicly

[void void]

worst thing i have done is selling 100 obf plugin copies and then releasing the source

"WHY THE FUCK DID I PAY YOU AT FIRST PLACE REEEEE"

[uncut moss]

something that actually is pretty fun and good if you want practice is find a mediocre premium resource and then make a better version of it and put it up for free

[pulsar wigeon]

tf is wrong with u ppl

[void void]

ye viper wuts wrong wit u

[marsh mountain]

Hmmm

[void void]

stop being weird

no ur pasta

[marsh mountain]

Quick, throw a reverse card

[uncut moss]

cat gone through a meat grinder?

[void void]

pog

[stiff yarrow]

@jagged egret you can technically split a machine up into virtual machines

[limber knot]

rm -rf's mikroskeem.

[still cape]

guys any idea why my tps is dropping? been doing it for a few days now https://timings.aikar.co/?id=6eaf93e9a8654352ab408bd34214e624 upon people joining

[twin lagoon]

your cpu sounds like a potato

version: 2.6.32-642.4.2.el6.x86_64

this sounds like openvz or an ancient centos version

[jagged egret]

I might have to go to the dark side

and install Windows 10 again

i want to play scrap mechanic ;-;

[still cape]

any idea?

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=a9e8146e196c4e45bd292a5389a9b856

[jagged egret]

yeah @still cape Michael already replied :)

[stiff yarrow]

shit the amd version of geforce experience is so much better than geforce experience

[uncut moss]

adrenalin?

[jagged egret]

Empathy looks like a lot of villagers, too

[uncut moss]

or whatever it's called

[still cape]

? that's from my host hosthorde, everything worked well without any tps issues, this only started a few days ago when i updated paper spigot.. and a couple other plugins, but i've been with hosthorde for 5+ years

[uncut moss]

geforce experience is fine for the only thing I ever use it for, which is installing drivers

[jagged egret]

those are two different things @uncut moss

nvidia's drivers are downloadable separately

[uncut moss]

i know

[still cape]

i'm not hosting from home

[uncut moss]

but can't be arsed to go to their site, find my gpu every other day to check if there's a new version

[golden gust]

Only a few months from being 4 years old that kernel version

[waxen panther]

@still cape #paper-help

[golden gust]

Saying that, literally a typical timing report

[still cape]

i updated paper today since it kept happening after last update

[golden gust]

entity counts goes up

[still cape]

so i'm on latest version

[golden gust]

tps goes down

tickEntities at 30ms

[uncut moss]

well, you should know that in anything minecraft-related using software 7 years out of date is totally fine

[waxen panther]

no aikar flags though

[celest coyote]

its just called radeon software

adrenaline is a line of drivers or something

[uncut moss]

adrenalin is the edition of it

which came out with the 5700 cards

isn't adrenalin a brand though

nvm that's something else

[celest coyote]

adrenalin is a version of the software I guess

[still cape]

are you talking to me 'cause i have no idea what you're talking about

i just use Hosthorde, which has worked fine for five years so far, and the tps issue just started a couple days ago...

[celest coyote]

this is off topic channel #paper-help

[slender jay]

@still cape besides the fact that this belongs in #paper-help you are one of those people who ask for help continuously but refuse each help given to you i literally sent you settings yesterday and i see triple (if not more) of what i sent you today

[uncut moss]

adrenalin is a trademarked name

[celest coyote]

trademarking common words

noice

[uncut moss]

no

[waxen panther]

electric be spittin pure facts

[uncut moss]

it was trademarked and then used as common word

happens all the time

[celest coyote]

ok it has a special spelling

Adrenaline is a real word

[uncut moss]

band-aid is another trademarked word that is actually a brand name

[celest coyote]

band-aid is not a real word though

[uncut moss]

no

i didn't say it was

i said it was a brand name used as a common word

[celest coyote]

I'm just pointing out the difference

[still cape]

i'm sorry i'm trying to ask where people actually reply, also i am sorry i missed your advice yesterday, i did not see it, but i do not refuse help continuously, i applied the server optimization guide and some things i can't do if they are things it's up to the host to do or they prohibit it

i will look for your advice and post in the help channel, didn't mean to seem ungrateful

[slender jay]

i hardly think you missed my help since we engaged in deep convo about the values but anyhow

scroll back or search in messages you will find literally all the help you need and more

[uncut moss]

Jet Ski is trademarked by Kawasaki, the actual word is "Stand-up personal watercraft"

[celest coyote]

by the way if a word becomes commonly used the trademark becomes invalid 😛

[still cape]

well i do remember our wonderful exchanges electric, but i don't think it was yesterrday

[twin lagoon]

speaking of radeon driver software

[void void]

It seems to be Americans who always commanise trademarks

[twin lagoon]

who the fuck thought it was a good idea to have some sort of supersonic boom explosion sound

in the start of their fucking driver setup

[slender jay]

my memory doesn't fail me unless we are deep into nitpicking and taking into consideration timezones

[still cape]

i will scroll back, i do not claim to have a perfect memory but it's not defective. i'll check

[void void]

Cos drivers are boring, gotta spice then up, other than crashing

[slender jay]

if we take this to #paper-help i will be happy to help again

[still cape]

i will but first i do want to find anything you typed before, believe it or not i am very grateful and do not wish to be rude or annoying (tho sometimes i fail at the latter)

[slender jay]

it doesnt matter anymore

i typed it up again for you

[still cape]

thank you i hate discord search it sucks

[void void]

Discord search is one of the best I've encountered

[slender jay]

[warm anchor]

You must never tried Reddit search before

coz that set my bar of "shitty search" pretty low

[void void]

I usually use Google to search reddit

[warm anchor]

yeah lol

[slender jay]

doesnt everyone do that

just type what you need and force google to only look into reddit

[celest coyote]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_trademark

[void void]

I'm looking for a plugin thats compatible with at least 1.14 that will make it so that if a mob like a cow isn't feed a particular amount of items like wheat it will die within a 24 hours or something like that. If there is no plugin like that does anyone know a way I can create this?

[warm anchor]

Many Americans health care providers still use fax

Lol

[uncut moss]

lots of companies have fax numbers

also there's better versions of all of the things you listed

[neat smelt]

remember the time, where you didnt needed a 4 core cpu to browse the web lag free?

[uncut moss]

fuck the good ol days

[jagged egret]

remember when we went outside

[uncut moss]

because 4 core cpus didn't exist

[jagged egret]

i don't either

[neat smelt]

+1

[uncut moss]

owie

that sucks

[mild bolt]

Whats outside

[granite salmon]

some scary place

[void void]

I feel sorry for people who don't go outside

[vestal jasper]

I'm forced to today

Garden center

[void void]

Everyday I sound older and older

Kek

[rough swift]

when making a server, why are 2 versions of the world made and what is the difference. example.. survival=survival and world=survival ?

[slender jay]

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-14634295

[uncut moss]

#paper-help

[jagged egret]

figured it out

[jagged egret]

is it possible to dual boot windows without wiping Ubuntu first? I've always done Windows then Ubuntu but I didn't know I wanted windows and now it's all set up :(

[twin lagoon]

yes

resize partitions first

then simply install windows

you'll have to reconfigure grub but the ubuntu installation is accessible through your bios boot menu until then

[fallen oracle]

Michael very smart

I trust him

[waxen panther]

micheal has atleast

100 braincells

[fallen oracle]

Now the real question is can I resize a partition bigger? I installed Linux and it broke so I can't boot go it anymore and I want to wipe the Linux partition and give it back to windows

[limber knot]

Well lol, I can't understand how bot chose the right avatar for this IRC account :/

[vernal moth]

it just searches for a user with the same discord name?

[limber knot]

is your disc-- ^

it's your discord client's undefined behaviour rather than the bot I think

What avatar do you see?

[vernal moth]

the avatar of @tidal quartz

[limber knot]

ebb: no, it's the bot

Hm

And what should it choose, if there were two identical nicknames? With different num ids

Random?)

¯_(ツ)_/¯

read the code I guess

https://github.com/zachbr/Dis4IRC/

looks like it just uses the first user that is returned by JDA's getMembersByEffectiveName

Fine

You literally saved my time looking at all this stuff

[fallen oracle]

Welcome

[upper flicker]

.mojang

[limber knot]

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[waxen panther]

[ancient bolt]

https://youtu.be/5IZrYeUX3MI

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Enhancement Drug - SNL - length 2m 31s - 229,431 likes, 4,412 dislikes (98.1%) - 15,061,653 views - Saturday Night Live on 2017.05.21

[fallen oracle]

Yay new emojis

Sessions have been down for like 2 weeks down

[limber knot]

not sorted by status

[upper flicker]

Lax would say PR or stfu

That’s what he told me when I complained about the old icons

[static badge]

lol

[pastel pivot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msX4oAXpvUE lol 😅

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) NCIS hacking - length 51s - 3,472 likes, 115 dislikes (96.8%) - 586,339 views - Splavodo69 on 2013.07.31

[waxen panther]

quick

we need more fingers!

[static badge]

is that show intentionally retarded like that

[slender jay]

makes me wanna watch it if every episode is like this

[ancient bolt]

NCIS is pretty good

dumb computer scenes tho

[kindred storm]

flashes command prompt on screen

so scary

[kindred mirage]

Who/where can i ask a question ?

[lament patio]

#paper-help

[vestal jasper]

depends on the type of question

if it's proxy related then #waterfall-help

[kindred mirage]

Paper related

thank you kyle

[elfin gulch]

Can someone tell me why getGameruleDefault is a method from the World class?

Is the default value changeable at world creation or something? Doesn't really make sense to me

[vernal moth]

Where else would you store the default value?

[elfin gulch]

In a Map in the Server impl?

Does the default value even change per-world

[vernal moth]

Don't think so, it's not stored in the world either I think, it's just convinient to have getters there

Idk, just turned off my PC, can't look at the source

[elfin gulch]

It kinda does but you'd need a world instance to get the default value, which isn't always the case

I know you could just get the first world from all worlds, my point is that the method should exist at server-level as well

[vernal moth]

If in doubt, getworlds[0]

Lol

Well, look at impl, then complain to bukkit if needed

[celest coyote]

imagine if we had a github project for managing the discord server

we could PR emotes and change channel topics

[ancient bolt]

TIL if you call recv on a closed socket fd linux doesn't give a shit

doesn't error or anything

so I need to implement a way for a connection to tell the other side i t's closed ugh

[jagged egret]

so my computer now says the installation media is missing drivers

[ancient bolt]

@static badge I'm sad to say I'll no longer be using optionals in paperd 😦

will use an exception for timeouts instead

nevermind OptionalInt it is

[jagged egret]

even just trying to install windows is making me hate it all over again

[slender jay]

And remember we had a case of a guy hosting on an old win 7 laptop

Just a week or 2 ago

[jagged egret]

my installation disk is being trash

now it's saying that my fetching files drive where I'm trying to install it doesn't have a GPT table

this is so stupid

[ancient bolt]

I always try to install windows on a clean disk and allow it to use up the whole thing

so I have separate physical devices for windows and linux

that way when I'm installing windows I can just remove the linux drive and I know windows can't fuck it up

[jagged egret]

luckily there's nothing too important on this computer

[fallen oracle]

Hey Demon, you still around? Had a quick question. I've gotten further on my PR but for some reason when I go to select the minecraft version, they are all empty. I've added in the CoroutineScope to push the versions to the selection box, was there other things that needed to be done too?

Hmm actually it's throwing an exception saying the platform isn't supported. Time to dig back in and see why.

Had to tell it to use the json file on your website for spigot.

[jagged egret]

meh I want a clean ubuntu install anyway

[modest gorge]

anyone know of a plugin that can let you bring animals across worlds somehow? for example pets, or found passive mobs like horses, llamas

[void void]

no plugin needed, use nether portals

[modest gorge]

ah ok. not sure how our mv is setup so I'll need to test that.

not sure our second world connects with the nether

[void void]

okay this is dope

madness got new meaning

doing class transforming inside clojure

[short yarrow]

what is that o.o

[void void]

basically doing something this

[potent fossil]

i see you took my advice to heart @void void

[potent fossil]

also clojure looks like what an aneurysm feels like

how do you do that and stay sane

[void void]

i'd never claim that i'm sane ngl

[potent fossil]

same

but even so

even while utterly insane

how

[void void]

eh

[potent fossil]

[void void]

also why the fuck is osrs modding scene so shit

[potent fossil]

i can get behind that comment

[void void]

writing a little wrapper using clojure & mappings using enigma rn

enigma has crashed like 3 times already shaking my smh

[potent fossil]

shaking my shaking my head

[void void]

yes

[potent fossil]

very good

[void void]

runelite had some mappings around but ehy they made everything private

because of jagex jumping on them

also Enigma has "multiplayer"

[potent fossil]

[vestal jasper]

Smh my head

[short yarrow]

functional programming is hard 😦

I've been using OCaml and pattern matching is sick

but first class functions are confusing. I don't think I'll ever get how to use it in practice

[void void]

don't focus on that aspect basically

[short yarrow]

man setting up my gpg key too wayyyy longer than it should've

did the same steps over and over and it didn't work

somehow it works now...

[green turret]

What are you using OCaml for?

I used it at uni for writing a compiler. It was an amazing tool for that specific job.

[short yarrow]

It's for a class

Yeah I'm writing an interpreter

Pattern matching made it super easy

[green turret]

We didn't really use the O-part of it though.

[short yarrow]

yeah same

[green turret]

Yeah people sometimes say that they think regex is awesome. Most of the time it's the pattern matching aspect of it they like. When they then see when/match expressions from functional languages they're like OOOOOOOH

Kotlin has some support for algebraic data types, and its smart casting is really nice. I hope they introduce it to Java at some point.

Isn't there a "switch expression" proposal?

[fallen oracle]

Kotlin has nice switch

[green turret]

Ah it's still not very powerful 😦

[void void]

happy mothers day

[green turret]

Holy crap that's today

Thanks for reminding me!

[void void]

👌

[short yarrow]

I'm almost done with college! One more final and I just gave up on machine learning. I've resigned that I'll never understand it

[fallen oracle]

I have 4 finals across 3 days

[green turret]

Machine learning is easy. People go on and on about reinforcement learning and what have you, but just kick the computer when it doesn't behave properly. That'll teach it!

[void void]

easy

wut

[short yarrow]

My machine learning course was so math heavy

I was lost

[void void]

idk, that shit seems to be so black box to me

[short yarrow]

^^

[green turret]

Come on

Fine, /s

[short yarrow]

i think you gotta be a math guy to fully understand it

[green turret]

I was taking the piss xD

[fallen oracle]

I hate calculus

[void void]

i mean math was one of the main reasons why i dropped out from uni

kek

besides lazyness

[fallen oracle]

I'd like to graduated

But I got to pass calc

[short yarrow]

I'm one course away from math minor haha

but no way I'm taking calc 3

[fallen oracle]

Yeah I don't want to ever take that

[green turret]

I think the worst part of machine learning for me is how difficult it is to verify. But that's just the nature of it. It's all about approximation.

[fallen oracle]

Chem comes natural for me

[short yarrow]

I'm not a science person either haha

[fallen oracle]

But calc

Oof

I took calc 1 3 times

[short yarrow]

I peaked at calculus

been downhill from there

[fallen oracle]

Talor series

Etc

[short yarrow]

calc 1 wasn't bad. Calc 2 though was insane

[fallen oracle]

I don't get it

[short yarrow]

yeah

series was hard

[fallen oracle]

I have the final in 3 days

[short yarrow]

idk how I got a B in that class

[void void]

though i'll try to get my ass back into uni this year; however i can take CE this time

[short yarrow]

I'm praying for you my friend

calc 2 was bad

[void void]

heard it's not much different from CS

[fallen oracle]

I'm lucky if I'll pass with a C this semester

All my other grades are As