#general
clever sierra
foggy elbow
not any good hosting compagny
I just looked and E2288G was 120s in france
With HDD
WOW
they just make new stocks
like 1hr ago
but only german and 32gb ram
yes but 32gb of ram
I'll make 2 server on it :c
but Xeon-E 2288G is pretty cool
single perf are shitty
The infra 2
with 32gb ram
I think I'll got it
will perform wayy better than xeon e5-2136
celest coyote
why do you think that
foggy elbow
single thread/5Ghz/more cores
celest coyote
ryzen single core perf is better than 6th gen intel atleast
you really think a 1st gen intel cpu is better?
void void
have you guys actually looked at the single threaded benchmarks?
golden gust
Haven't AMD always had a history of tending to beat intel when it comes to single core perf, and then shitting the bed when threading comes into play
Pretty sure that there is still a slim level of that, just, far from as crazy as it used to be
foggy elbow
Xeon-E 2288G will may perform better than i9-9900k
20gb ram on 1.15.2 for 150players is enough ?
golden gust
I don't care about synthetics
celest coyote
okay wtf is up with intel's naming scheme
golden gust
synthetics don't care about real world workloads, nor do they cater for issues where some DCs just quite simply don't have the capacity for somechips, so we end up getting many reports of people having untracable performance issues down to their chips frying eggs
foggy elbow
what do you think of the e2288g ?
Not possible to get better CPU right ?
144€/month
:c
I'll love it 😂
restive thicket
celest coyote
how much the ryzen system cost?
foggy elbow
150€ with the ryzen 7 3800x ( with taxes )
void void
How would I migrate my luckperms permissions that I already did into a MySQL Database?
k
peak dirge
@golden gust Historically, AMD has had lower single-core performance, however with Zen AMD is now competitive with Intel with single-core
But AMD, by virtue of including more and better cores, pretty much destroys most of the Intel offerings now
vernal moth
Cause their ipc is superior and Intel had to get rid of their software hacks
mint mauve
vernal stone
foggy elbow
WTFF
I bought this
https://www.ovh.com/fr/serveurs_dedies/advance/adv-2/
And they gave me a Intel(R) Xeon(R) E-2236 CPU @ 3.40GHz
placid basin
limber knotBOT
lol
void void
.rekt
foggy elbow
you ordered a 2136 and got a 2236? is that not an upgrade?
Yes
It's 80 points better in single thread LMAO, for the same price
If someone want a ovh dedicated, go for it, maybe you'll have an upgrade too ( and you can cancel and be refunded within 14 days )
But I canceled it to go for an Xeon E-2288G
golden gust
really just depends about what they've got on the racks and what's available
got a free ram doubling from pheonixnap once I think it was, quite simply coz that's just what was in the rack already, and sod getting a tech out to pull a few sticks
foggy elbow
I hope the xeon E-2288G will run fine x)
celest pelican
tall folio
novel flume
foggy elbow
yes but it can be a good comparaison just as a first look
celest pelican
brisk hedge
balmy lily
floral grotto
foggy elbow
So how do you compare CPU for minecraft server ?
void void
I tend to do a tnt test, but thats not representive of real world performance either so...
i would view synthetics as okay as long as you're comparing within the same architecture
golden gust
not really
foggy elbow
so barty what do you think better between :
- i9-9900k
- Xeon e-2288g
void void
*with the i9 thermal throttling
upper flicker
do you have a server at the specific DC to know it will throttle?
what is the specific DC anyway?
pulsar zealot
plush hedge
celest coyote
overclock your fans
sturdy geyser
foggy elbow
what is the specific DC anyway?
What is DC ? (As i'm french)
void void
datacenter
worn ember
Direct Current
foggy elbow
OVH for the datacenter ^^
runic roost
harsh plaza
whole oracle
lean knot
warm anchor
Hey an unrelated question. Does paper has a build in scoreboard? Like death count, playtime, and some game related stat? I know /Whois but I want to know if there any one that would show server wide stats 
inner valley
do you have a server at the specific DC to know it will throttle?
@upper flicker hetzner
wide chasm
Please don't mention project developers.
latent valve
when did z use invisible status
upper flicker
never
limber knotBOT
EterNity: by default per player statustics are tracked on the server
harsh plaza
who can help me with the paper with my server I want the tps not to go down I want them to go up?
harsh plaza
brittle dust
is there a way to increase the players speed in a certain "Region"
warm anchor
The /speed ?
brittle dust
like can I setup an area where people are sped up
didn't know they had that under /speed
sorry
ah yes
but that's not what I was llooking for
vestal jasper
WorldGuard
vestal jasper
Wym why wouldn't walk speed change the players walk speed
brittle dust
it changed the animations walk speed
vestal jasper
Or do you mean to include fly speed as well
brittle dust
but doesn't increase the actual walking speed
elfin mantle
Uhm idk if its right place to ask, but i will give a try
Is there a way to count items going throught hopper ? (to see farm efficiency) Plugin/mod/command whatever is fine,just for multiplayer server ;(
I saw some Youtubers using it
vestal jasper
You cannot change the animation without affecting the speed
brittle dust
yeah does nothing
winged axle
tender depot
green sail
warm anchor
Always have an alt to check 
winged axle
Hello
elder orbit
minor badge
@quasi valley @drifting elm
drifting elm
tawny bough
nocturne sage
steep fulcrum
naive quest
Is there a big difference between ssd and hdd when it comes to minecraft servers?
I have vps with ssd and i want switch to the dedicated with hdd
Hetzner has cheap, old dedicated servers and between ssd and hdd is 10$ difference
latent valve
then why not just go for ssd?
latent valve
yes
naive quest
Ok, thanks for help
torn flare
.optimise
limber knotBOT
Guide for optimizing performance: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimization⚡.283181/
upper flicker
"yes"
limber knotBOT
BE vs AE
upper flicker
another fun locale thing
limber knotBOT
or AE vs BE, who knows
limber knotBOT
as long as you don't write it optimice it's correct ;D
upper flicker
optomice
upper flicker
usually its just because he's drunk
latent valve
he said the R word
upper flicker
in this case there's some history there
rough swift
wide chasm
No thank you
limber knotBOT
never had any issues with him ¯_(ツ)_/¯
vernal moth
andrew is just always high
we were in VC with him
anybody here ever worked with srg2source?
am remapping classes, it changes imports, but the packages of the class arent changed
latent valve
not even 40tps pff
magic ice
seems to fix all the lag problems 
obsidian belfry
My server works well with 1TB of ram so far.
lament patio
Imagine Java collecting 1TB of garbage
waxen panther
No
magic ice
bold of you to assume the garbage collector is being used
jagged egret
does anyone have any good recommendations for external hard drives for storing backups
plug it in with USB
unreal quarry
eSata or bust
jagged egret
bc it's just for personal junk
unreal quarry
Ain't no one got time for dat usb transfer rate
void void
don't get anything with usb mini b, that connector sucks
jagged egret
true nirvana
eSata would be cool but my desktop doesn't have a connector :(
i don't have usb 3 other lel
i don't have 2.0 either
void void
what
celest coyote
reboot once a day
jagged egret
lol i'm kidding
jagged egret
ah I have a USB hub from sabrent
void void
isn't sabrent really new? like i never heard of them until a few months ago
jagged egret
lol just got "429 Rate Limited" from their website
well, forgive me for opening multiple tabs! the atrocity
void void
there's this one website that now only allows a certain amount of people on there at once for some reason
there's a queue and everything
ay yes diy.com
jagged egret
hold up
void void
i doubt that it would be fast tho
vernal moth
its a project name
wait
that wasnt actually the web client
thats was what I was thinking about
void void
mapviewer != minecraft client
jagged egret
oo minidigger while you're here do you know if there's a way to prevent #sendPacket in TinyProtocol from firing its own #onServerPacketAsync or whatever?
vernal moth
what more do you need
merry talon
i would rather pay quintuple than use a hard drive
vernal moth
I dont use tiny protocol
jagged egret
but you know about netty, right?
it's a class by the same dude who made ProtocolLib
but gets rid of all of the wrappers n stuff
which sometimes don't support wrapping right anyway
vernal moth
I build my protocol listeners directly into the server, lol
jagged egret
ah
vernal moth
idk, you could store the hashcode of the packet or smth
normally you would wrap the packet to detect that kind of stuff
not sure if that works in mc
jagged egret
i thought about doing something like this but this seems a bit hacky:
https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/56acd89a1a3843aa83297e795c9cc34c
vernal moth
yes thats how you would do it
jagged egret
it feels super weird to do tho
vernal moth
thats how shit like spring works for example
request wrappers over request wrappers 😂
jagged egret
like isn't there a way to do it with netty? I dunno how ProtocolLib does it but I imagine it's not wrapping that
jagged egret
Sending a packet is just a call to channel.pipeline().writeAndFlush(packet);, and said pipeline includes the listener
It's a problem because when I send a packet it's already been edited to what it should be but I want to edit outbound packets by the server to be what they need to be
vernal moth
what are you actually doing?
jagged egret
modifying outbound block change & chunk packets to replace certain blocks with specific jukebox block states to add custom blocks
vernal moth
and you cant listen and modify packets you send yourself because?
jagged egret
when an outbound chunk packet is detected, I add a task to an async shared chain which checks if the information for said chunk is loaded and when it is, sends the packet
vernal moth
mmh
jagged egret
I'm not quite sure what's a better way to do it .-.
warped fable
foggy iron
blazing bison
jagged egret
any suggestions minidigger?
jagged egret
b
vernal moth
still seem to have an issue with inner classes
thats most likely my srg tho
yeah
I dont have inner classes in my srg
void void
inner classes are fun
void void
simply remapping inner classes name to Foo$Bar won't do either, iirc mojang stripped that info
at least with 1.7.10 i had to include mcp's exceptor to get shit working properly
but that was also mcp
limber knotBOT
inner classes have not been stripped for a while now.
vernal moth
I have mapping info for inner classes
I just dont read them properly or smth
also not sure if this is a hack, but this fixed package names for me https://github.com/MiniDigger/Srg2Source/commit/9316946ca110638588b808e1e02c31c6d6bf9f37
toxic gust
stone timber
shell vine
dam, aikar been going crazy on performance fixes lately
merry talon
why is finding a good desk so hard
warm anchor
Make your own with a slab
stiff yarrow
he needs a new grind since he moved on from ark 
limber knotBOT
so, uh, I just recently added garbage collector stats to my munin setup and I see one of my servers (and internal build/development server without any restart schedule) to constantly having old gen at almost 100% of the used heap. (currently running without any special flags besides g1gc) isn't it supposed to clear that naturely when nothing is going on?
limber knotBOT
I mean it's also only running with 2GB so maybe that doesn't help: https://i.phoenix616.dev/dz13XIOa.png xD
vernal moth
fixed inners
limber knotBOT
I guess I go read up on how G1GC actually works, lol
wicked birch
I thought my server crashed again, it was just closed because an emergency just occured on the physical host
twin lagoon
wat
limber knotBOT
well... G1 stands for "garbage first"
but "garbage second" would actually be interesting, like prioritise normal server processes and then cleanup (although I guess that's what the old GC does)
slim nymph
lol thats not what it means
it means it focuses on getting rid of garbage before it starts other gc work
other gc's have to consider garbage in calcs too
thats why G1 does so well
and its cost DOESNT scale to memory size, it scales to survival size
my flags goal is to improve garbage % which is super cheap to reclaim
ensuring less objects survive
vernal moth
polar sonnet
Damn
vernal moth
oooh
polar sonnet
I really like ess eco
vernal moth
#2619
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://github.com/facebook/create-react-app/pull/3239 -- Add .mjs support · Issue #3239 ·...: "Oct 5, 2017 ... Add .mjs support #3239. Timer:mjs-support. facebook:master Timer:mjs-support. @Timer. Timer opened this pull request over 2 years..."
vernal moth
😄
limber knotBOT
so I guess I should restart the server with the flags and see how it develops 🤔
an interesting thing that I've started noticing from a different graph is that old gen suddenly jumps into existance. I assume that's normal? (or maybe I really should just finish reading the G1GC tutorial, lol)
slim nymph
old gen occurs if mixed collections cant keep up
and you run out of memory in old
G1MixedTargetcount reducing this can make it more aggressive how much it does per cycle if you are allocating at a fast rate to old
it targets cleaning up entire old gen in 8 mixed cycles
limber knotBOT
would making that more aggressive have any impact on the performance if there isn't any risk/existing old gen?
god that looks so awesome
ghast spiders <3
wanton crane
isnt that a bot
noble saddle
jagged egret
isn't what a bot
wanton crane
phenix
limber knotBOT
and?
jagged egret
It's probably already reached superintelligence level
that's why we have coronavirus
latent valve
Bot will take over the world
limber knotBOT
it's already made me into a bot too D:
too bad we seem to have dissociative identity disorder
i don't have dissociative identity disorder
i do
wanton crane
fucking webhooks
fathom hinge
fallow trench
topaz harbor
echo tundra
fallen oracle
Y'all are acting like sex is a real thing and not just a meme.
void void
stiff yarrow
sometimes I disassociate quite a lot but it hasn't happened in a week or so
merry fiber
tropic halo
stiff yarrow
Better now I think
dry minnow
urban moat
void void
cosmic raft
~limbo uptime
void void
Uptime: 3 days, 4 hours, 32 minutes, 23 seconds
urban plinth
onyx steeple
fallen oracle
Not bad
green turret
It's nearly 8 AM here. I just shoved one pork for pulling in the oven!
In 10-14 hours, I expect magic to happen.
green turret
I've never made it before, so I'm worried it's gonna just be dry, or tasteless, or stupid.
fallen oracle
I typically smoke meat through the night
green turret
Aren't you worried about your house burning down?
green turret
Ohhhh
green turret
Usually there are at least 15 people in this building, so I guess I could just rely on them to wake me up if things start burning. I might not have smoke detectors, but I'm sure if my apartment caught fire they'd all be interested in getting it put out xD
fallen oracle
Hehe
rose mist
Dumb question by how do i turn off advancements on my minecraft server?
green turret
I don't think I can be of much help with that, but if you delete your server, there will be no advancements to be made. It's not very helpful, but it is effective. Maybe it can be your last resort.
fallen oracle
So yeah my favorite right now is brisket cause we slow smoke it for about 12 hours and had a cherry ring.
rose mist
lmao
green turret
Mmmm
rose mist
brisket is amazing
green turret
For dinner tonight, I am torn between a pulled pork burger and pulled pork tacos.
(I'm specifically not asking in #delicious-tacos because there is a bit more bias)
fallen oracle
Here were some ribs I did https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585654580113702923/665025856820740116/20200109_204859.jpg
green turret
🤤
fallen oracle
Smoked for about 3 hours
green turret
With sorta kinda nice weather coming up, I really hate living in an apartment building. No grill, no grassy garden 😦
fallen oracle
You can see the cherry ring kinda here https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/585654580113702923/603466948784947200
wicked birch
Passed out midway through online class, next thing I saw were servlet chaining and java beans loooool
green turret
Mmmmmm
polar sonnet
smokin nic and suckin dik
green turret
COVID-19 has cancelled my favorite annual event, which is at the end of May, my dad gathers up his family for a weekend of food and good times. He digs a little trench, starts a fire in it, and props up these pork and lamb cuts on metal skewers for 6 hours. It's so good. I'm gonna find a picture!
fallen oracle
That sounds so amazing
green turret
Your understanding of "all the right perms" clearly isn't consistent with the plugin's understanding of it. And unfortunately for you, plugins - like all computer programs - are dumb, and they can't be reasoned with.
limber knotBOT
Towny has its own set of permissions as well
sick crag
limber knotBOT
so there is the perms for towny to do some commands etc, but then as a town member towny takes over as far as perms go depending on your town rank
they can be modified in the towny files
polar sonnet
im aware
I gave the right perm to create a new town
nope
Its even in the towny perms
polar sonnet
yes
potent fossil
ok
dire zodiac
void void
lament oracle
limber knotBOT
"I wanted to try out your implementation of a game framework because I do admire your code style and how you work towards implementing those systems"
man, spigot pm sometimes
quasi valley
mini be flexing
limber knotBOT
Hey guys be sure to check out the admired implementation of a game framework, soon coming to spigots "premium" section for only 25 usd!
quasi valley
not even on mcmarket? smh
potent fossil
mfw VGL
vernal moth
Hey, I promised that dude to try to compile it later today and push it to my repo 😂
vernal moth
The artifacts
potent fossil
is it that hard to compile? lmao
vernal moth
I guess? Idk
latent valve
hard cuz mini can only compile on pi0
vernal moth
It's a clustered mess of dependencies
potent fossil
figures
vernal moth
And sub modules and shit
potent fossil
stupid
watch this guy eat 12 tacos in one minute thirty seconds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYxdS6qMSf4
quasi valley
waddafuq simple
potent fossil
what do you want from me
vernal moth
Tacos
quasi valley
I don't know what I wanted
quasi valley
but not that 
potent fossil
my man's not even fat
he also ate 4 quarter pounders, 2 large fires, 40 mcnuggets, 2 med drinks and 2 large drinks from mcdonalds in 9 minutes
full whale
potent fossil
violently american, but it's prime entertainment
mellow fractal
frozen jacinth
latent valve
I kinda wanna make carrot cake. 😋 but cba getting up
woven otter
Mini make sure to include all the buzzwords: very fast optimised async reworked multithreaded BeerGamesLib
potent fossil
you forgot a few: premium high quality, exclusive, "supports thousands of players at once", "easiest way to create games"
wide chasm
All of them should be in FULL CAPS, though.
potent fossil
and bold with tasteful application of italics
woven otter
Dont forget random symbols
wide chasm
supports thousands of players at ONCE
wide chasm
Shit I really have to step up my MC-Market titles
potent fossil
mfw this time he ate the entire chick-fil-a menu in 31 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlskTqc9CEc
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) The Chick-Fil-A Full Menu Challenge - length 10m 13s - 379,408 likes, 10,382 dislikes (97.3%) - 19,186,833 views - Matt Stonie on 2019.05.24
woven otter
⚡ SUPPORTS thousands OF PLAYERS @ ONCE ⚡
potent fossil
dumbass
woven otter
Wtf happened there lel
potent fossil
COVID-19
woven otter
U
potent fossil
stiff lynx
twin lagoon
matt stonie 
west elbow
Hi anyone know why my server
Bungee > Lobby > Survival > Skyblock > Faction > Minigamelobby > buildbattle
some server chat
Example
im in lobby and i type "testing"
and my skyblock server can see my text "testing"
why
wide chasm
timber ether
prisma sandal
boreal lotus
cosmic raft
meh
void void
quasi valley
meh
void void
hi guys
Ah it's great when the maths teacher sets homework on mymaths.
I can cheat on it easily, unlike regular work
i don't think i'm going to be having any exams. maybe english but hell no
peak dirge
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=WINE-POWER64-Patches-2020
won't run Windows NT PowerPC binaries
i cri
void void
ashen cliff
I'm still waiting for someone to port TurboSched to Intel and AyyMD.
merry talon
italics are always tasteful
mortal zinc
Full range of Unicode characters is supported, making it possible to type emojis and other unicode characters outside of the Basic Multilingual Plane. ~20w17a
oh finally
left swift
Good get rid of the outdated irc
merry talon
ok buddy retard
left swift
mortal zinc
still use skype but that's because i have friends that still use it
merry talon
they serve different purposes
fathom dagger
merry talon
discord is not a viable alternative for something like freenode
but you weren't making a logical argument anyway
left swift
The government should just make a standard chat program for everyone 
mortal zinc
well the ban system in irc is incredibly more complex than discord
then again names are more complex too because of the host mask stuff
merry talon
which is a good thing
mortal zinc
also it leaks your IP address unless the server operator allows masking it
merry talon
because discord has no concept of ip bans or temp bans
mortal zinc
hm actually
i just went to a support case on discord and one of the official responses is:
All bans are IP based already. If you need help protecting your server from raids I'd suggest contacting support, reporting the raiders, upping the verification level and/or looking into a raid prevention bot.
mortal zinc
i discovered i was banned from a discord while using a different name other than the one i was banned on
so... idk
ashen cliff
That statement is regarding Discord server bans, not account bans.
dreamy jay
merry talon
so server bans being IP bans but not account bans makes sense how?
void void
Discord hasn't gotten the hang of how blocking users works much either
lament patio
As much as it's inconsistent, I'm not unhappy with how that works
Discord doesn't issue account bans well
heady meteor
soft gazelle
void void
That fix is rubbish, just making the animation desappear after 20 secs. doesn't even fix the actual bug
heady spear
rebase
little elk
heady spear
You can rebase via github too
press the fancy arrow on the merge button 👀
merge commits are evil
also if u merge PRs that way, you get these fancy commits 😛
ye that's the one ;D
vernal moth
Squash op
vernal moth
Should have rebased master into dev
Could just force push
Checkout the commit before you fucked up
And force push that to your branch
It will hide the wrong commits
You can checkout commits, ye
You can also do checkout HEAD~2
To checkout the second commit behind Head
quasi valley
git reset --hard HEAD~2;git push --force
just be sure to not yeet even more into the abyss before force pushing 😂
jagged egret
the heck is a NetworkMarker in ProtocolLib
cedar spade
it marks networks
jagged egret
no i don't think it does
quasi valley
isn't it just their injected handler point for current and scheduled packets
how is master ahead of anything
vernal moth
Export commits you want to keep, reset dev to master, apply patches 😂
cedar spade
requests a bull
vernal moth
It just happens to be that the branches are on different repos
Intellij can
But yes, that needs to use the GitHub API
twin lagoon
it is intellij after all
void void
grand comet
slim nymph
@still smelt the "Pull Request" tab on github is a github feature. The concept of asking someone to review your branch and git merge it is a generic concept.
Github PR's just put a web gui process to the politics
upper flicker
all reviews from now on will be done in the mailing lists
that way we never have to log in to GH
slim nymph
i use checkout-pr
upper flicker
I use hub and gh religiously for that
slim nymph
does it have push to the remote users branch
slim nymph
yeah i think i looked at hub is why i wrote checkout-pr
upper flicker
might be something to look at later
void venture
Since this is more of an API design question, I'll ask it here
I have an abstract class ArtifactBuilder<T, B extends ArtifactBuilder<T, B>>
where T is an AutomizationArtifact (yes, the typo is on purpose) and B is the the builder extending this class.
I do this because I've got three things that those builders share in common, which is the owner, place and type
And well, I use a builder because the classes that extend AutomizationArtifact might end up having more arguments which would make initializing them through constructor quite ugly
Now, my problem is: should I make the build method abstract?
Right now, I have this:
public T build() {
AutomatizationManager manager = Automization.getInstance().getManager();
Class<T> type = manager.getArtifactById(this.type);
Class<B> builder = (Class<B>) manager.getBuilderByClass(type);
try {
return type.getDeclaredConstructor(builder).newInstance(this);
} catch (InstantiationException | IllegalAccessException | InvocationTargetException | NoSuchMethodException e) {
e.printStackTrace();
}
return null;
}
Each artifact has a String id, you've got to register it through the AutomatizationManager class
I save the id and the class of the artifact on a Map
And each artifact have an static getBuilderType method that returns the corresponding builder for this artifact
This is saved in another Map with the corresponding artifact class and the builder class
And each artifact has a builder constructor including the base AutomatizationArtifact class, where I initialize the variables
Now, I know this is kinda convoluted instead of just overriding the build method and I don't actually know if it works in reality since I haven't tested it yet
The point is just not having anyone extending the ArtifactBuilder class have to implement the build method
Little to no gain if I think about it since each artifact still has to call super(builder) for it to initialize the primary variables
slim nymph
@void venture this is pattern Brigadier uses, yes
brig also then has a getThis() method to handle fluent interface
quaint flume
slim nymph
was a clever way to solve the chainable issue with inheritance, i may use it for IDB
i broke my DB options and Pooled Db options into 2 sep builders as i couldnt figure that issue out ._.
stuck dust
void venture
That's amazing, didn't knew they've done it this way
Having to figure this on my own was no fun lol
Thanks for the guideance, I'll make sure to check what Brigadier does
young tundra
Hello, I need one plugin to create boss, and other to custom enchant, pls free xD. Thanks for help 😄
weary vector
uneven iris
Ok, this might seem stupid but whats the differences between paper and waterfall
limber knotBOT
paper is a minecraft server, waterfall is a proxy
limber knotBOT
yes, a proxy
wide chasm
A proxy links multiple servers together.
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limber knotBOT
it's a fork of bungee, yes
waxen panther
uneven iris
Oke
gleaming rivet
where does all of y'all fellow eu people have dedicated servers at?
waxen panther
Hetzner
gleaming rivet
is it good?
waxen panther
It’s the best service I’ve used
uneven iris
Wats the weccomended amount of dedotated wam I should have to minecraf server
waxen panther
You don’t get much support from them but the prices are good and the speeds are reliable
As long as you’re comfortable going it alone it’s great
limber knotBOT
I mean most people probably just use OVH ¯_(ツ)_/¯
gleaming rivet
they don't have 9900k
tho
that would be the main reason for me to switch atm
their 6700k they are selling is worse than what i already have
limber knotBOT
isn't the 7700k and the 9900k on par anyways?
limber knotBOT
oh wow, ovh's GAME-64 are fucking overpriced xD
peak dirge
I heard the Hetzner i9-9900Ks can get thermal throttled, which is bad news if you need the performance of an i9
gleaming rivet
I mean most people probably just use OVH ¯_(ツ)_/¯
mOsT pEoPlE usE oVh
worn ember
Literally anything with "game" in it is overpriced
gleaming rivet
I heard the Hetzner i9-9900Ks can get thermal throttled, which is bad news if you need the performance of an i9
oh that sounds bad
actually just found a post regarding that
gleaming rivet
guess i'll wait then and host myself xd
my players can suffer a bit more i guess
not sure the 9900k would benefit me >.>
limber knotBOT
oh wow, fuck OVH I guess... they just informed me that they will cancel a VPS of mine in two days
gleaming rivet
is there some way i could check that?
fallen oracle
Why are they canceling it?
limber knotBOT
they are apparently updating their infrastructure
it's a VPS from 2014 but this is the first notice that I've got regarding that
fallen oracle
Interesting
limber knotBOT
and the prices for their VPS are extremely high, this one cost me something liek 1,5$/mo lol
limber knotBOT
ok, actually the price was increased to 3$ a while ago
fallen oracle
Yeah that's what mine cost I think
waxen panther
I really doubt a mc server would thermal throttle it
limber knotBOT
still more expensive than their current offers
limber knotBOT
the only issues I had with hetzner was a couple years back when they turned off our server because some kiddie did a ddos attack against it...
granted that was before they offered proper ddos protection but at least just nullroute the traffic or something instead of shutting down the physical server, lol
slender jay
im getting ddosed daily my email is exploding with abuse reports
but they havent shut me down yet
they only do that
if the attack impacts other parts of their infrastructure
limber knotBOT
well yeah, they offer ddos protection now ;D
back then OVH was the only alternative that offered that
slender jay
yes but they still say that if it affects their infrastructure they will block you
In some cases such an attack can place a considerable strain on network resources and, as a result, a segment of our network can be adversely affected. In such a case the IP address of the attacked server can be blocked as a precautionary measure. You will receive a separate notification with further information if this happens.
fresh from 2 hours ago
waxen panther
Never had that happen to me though
shell vine
Hetzner null routed my dedi for 3 days and I had to sign and scan a document saying I wasn't the one ddosing from it because apparently that's what their system picked up
This was like in 2013 tho
slender jay
they have ddos protection since 2016
shell vine
Still retarded
worn ember
Instead of "why are you hitting yourself" "why are you ddossing yourself"
viscid rain
void void
.g hetzner ddos protection
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summer patio
quasi valley
hetzner's panel has a dark mode now :o
or wait now I'm not sure if I already enabled it ages ago and they just added new features, or new new
ashen cliff
It's only on if you configure the firewall, from what they told me.
void void
wut lol
ashen cliff
On the panel you can enable the firewall, but it's enabled by default allowing all connections.
quasi valley
is it that "enable protection" button? cuz it says "protections cannot be deleted" 
void void
hmm, anyone dealt with ordering more storage?
storage boxes they provide aren't what i really want
ashen cliff
So just more disks?
void void
y..eah
ashen cliff
void void
ty michael
ashen cliff
So just this?
void void
wow i'm gonna build never dying storage array now
ashen cliff
Just ask them to add a 10 year old Seagate drive.
void void
to store my upcoming 1 month server backups
ashen cliff
Just to make sure it dies.
waxen panther
ashen cliff
@viscid jacinth still have that dying Seagate HDD in your Hetzner server?
void void
extra hardware
will buy novideo gpus and help you to get gpu world gen done good enough
and then i'll ship them to hetzner
viscid jacinth
Yep
ashen cliff
Post that bad boy.
viscid jacinth
sec
void void
ping me if it's here, i'll get my ass to store at the meantime; haven't eaten anything
viscid jacinth
somber heart
wild ice
gleaming rivet
Mikroskeem what host do you use?
spring sleet
gleaming rivet
@spring sleet 
quasi valley
get a room please
waxen panther
severe mesa
warm anchor
That’s one rare pepe
void void
Mikroskeem what host do you use?
@gleaming rivet hetzner
void void
Yo! Does anyone know good startup arguements for 10gb ram?
wide chasm
red tide
wich anti cheat would you guys use on paper? spartan or aac?
vernal moth
I choose good staff
red tide
well you cant be on every spot on every second
latent valve
I use NCP
quasi valley
aac is nice
quasi valley
not sure about spartan, but it's devs has a bit too flourishing ideologies 👀
red tide
kennytv what do you mean by that?
merry talon
.flags @void void
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void void
I personally prefer NCP, as long as you can figure out a way to fix the flying bed bug false positive
AAC is quite laggy as well
NCP renders most hacks useluss, tho kill aura still works
and AAC blocks nearly everything these days
only problem with both is entity speed, that is one damn annoying hack
There have been attempts at patching entity speed, but most of them mean vanilla stuff doesn't work in low tps
over
quasi valley
aac doesn't really have any meaningful inpact on tps
just that it's check will perform worse if your tps are already low
void void
snapshpo support yet?
quasi valley
snapshpo
void void
snapshot?
wide chasm
No
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
void void
ok
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
void void
ok
civic folio
lucid ocean
karmic garden
rancid kernel
void void
I mean i haven't personally tested AAC vs NCP vs vanilla performance, but i heard it from an anarchy server owner
dusky iron
void void
ugh fucks sake shadowjar
it does not support java 11+
:(
2-4 slot usually
check motherboard manual
y..eah that's strongly dependent on motherboard tbh
mfw viper
yeh no
more complicated than that
i dunno why, but otherwise there would be no reason for motherboards to say slots 2-4
mfw logic like that reminds me one dude who said that implementing bidirectional communication is absolutely pointless
because most of the consumers don't even have full-duplex networking
so why should i care
... what
i'm still amazed by that
*simultaneous bidi comm, that is
golden gust
depends on the CPU wiring
The speed of electrons ain't gonna do shit though
it's all down to clocking
reason for matching slots is due to dual channel iirc
void void
so viper check the manual, chances are the motherboard manufacturer is a bit more lets say informed on the subject
I forgot, isn't aorus from MSi?
oh it's a gigabyte
i'm suprised thats not a joke whenever gigabyte comes up
i've personally prefered Asus, i'd rather have Asus's cheap motherboard than someone elses cheap motherboard
and i won't touch an AsRock with a pole
warm loom
peak umbra
limber knotBOT
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peak umbra
wow what a nice bot !
void void
That's been done to death
void void
it's a common project, lots have done it
peak umbra
Yeah, but not in pure C and OpenGL...
celest coyote
Who cares
void void
exactly
celest coyote
Minecraft itself was made I a weekend
peak umbra
Yeah, but much less advanced than what was done by this guy.
Anyway, you don't have to watch it if you don't care 🙂
void void
where'd you get the much less advanced bit from?
wide chasm
Complains that other people use pre-built stuff to make their lives easier
Proceeds to use a library within the first minute
limber knotBOT
did you know there's only one valid way to write a program and anyone who does it differently is stupid
wide chasm
Assembly is beautiful until you mess it up. So it's never beautiful.
golden gust
preach it
wide chasm
Like, messing manually with a stack pointer is the most dangerous thing I've ever seen.
Just one little sub $0x10, %rsi or similar wrong and you're entire program is fucked 🙂
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ah yes
limber knotBOT
the most dangerous thing i've ever seen is cryptosporidium so i'd say you're pretty lucky
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.g s
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.g cryptosporidium
limber knotBOT
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limber knotBOT
you get it if you talk about bitcoin too much
wide chasm
Well, one thing causes a lot of deaths (probably) and the other one causes insanity for one programmer for their entire life, so both are pretty bad I'd say 🙂
unreal quarry
Most dangerous thing I've seen is "I'll learn java as I make this plugin"
runs away
wide chasm
lol
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billy probably learned java while making plugins 
wide chasm
But it worked out for this one guy that already had a CS degree and knew seven other languages
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worked for me
copper stone
kekw
wide chasm
Well, whether it worked for me is up to others to decide I guess 🙂
vernal moth
I got my CS degree because I learned programming in mc 😂
jolly crown
Oh yes I love how I deleted the nether and end worlds on my testing server so I don’t want to wait for them to load and now they’re just regenerating themselves
wide chasm
To be fair, I already knew the hardest language of all before I started making plugins: MC commands /s
unreal quarry
@jolly crown disable nether in server.properties and the end in bukkit.yml
void void
slim crypt
ashen cliff
ember crag
void void
fallen oracle
@static badge
Enjoy.
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WTF
celest coyote
what a monstrosity
celest coyote
why is that an emote nossr
stiff yarrow
it'd be complicated to explain
stiff yarrow
I was pretty involved in the Gwent scene for a while and I'm in many gwent discords is the short version
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isn't gwent that card game sold with the witcher
void void
someday i've got to learn to do plastic welding outside
all them poisonous gases must not be good
unreal quarry
So, the US just passed 1 million Corona cases :3
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1 million
celest coyote
Gwent is a stand alone game inspired by the witcher mini game of the same name
quasi valley
but billy, the virus is absolutely no threat and the democrats are just overreacting and jailing the public!
void void
looks like the fractured setup of the US didn't do them any favours, with everyone deciding when the shut
should've been president just issuing order
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you us retards really are 
quasi valley
"I don't trust your science, I only trust my God!"
void void
good point, even better english
quasi valley
some muricans truly are something
magic mesa
Increase -Xmx and -Xms
void void
and put more ram into the server ofc
magic mesa
do what?
magic mesa
How much ram do yo wanna allocate?
void void
4GB
magic mesa
-Xmx4G and -Xms4G
void void
But where do I put that
Also is there anything I can do to optimize my server to use up less ram
In General
magic mesa
Yeh look at pinned messages in #paper-help
gaunt ridge
Ok, does anyone here know a level plugin, where you can climb several levels at once, and then it says "you have climbed 10 levels" in one message?
magic mesa
If you look at the example startup script in #paper-help you put the flags after the java bit. We should also be talking in #paper-help btw
void void
Kk I’ll move there
warm anchor
Anyone with experience with OreAnnouncer? Just want to see what yall think about this pkug in?
stiff yarrow
Gwent has a silly history that I'd rather not go into, but the current Gwent is not the same Gwent I played because the devs decided to remake the game into a simplified version
steep lotus
To anyone who runs a successful MC server, how can I promote mine? I have worked on it for 6+ months and personally think it looks professional. I have Anarchy, Creative, PvP, Survival, Bedwars and Skyblock. Any tips?
unreal quarry
I would say advertise, but you just described 90% of the servers on the advertising sites
steep lotus
yeah
stiff yarrow
@static badge it's more like the new version of the game is checkers and we used to play chess
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yeah I guess
unreal quarry
You want a hard game? Buy and play Myst. Don't look it up or you'll ruin it. The game itself is a puzzle to figure out what the game is even about.
stiff yarrow
I was introduced to Myst when I was 10 years old
I even remember what puzzle I got stuck on back then
latent valve
leafy is back
void void
stiff yarrow
who
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void void
JACOB 
stiff yarrow
oh hes one of those
potent fossil
someone please
without giving me the answer, how do at least start
i fucking hate optimization
so perimeter of that rectangle is gonna be
8 = 2x + 2w, 4 = x + w
but uh
wut
static badge
huh
potent fossil
FUCK
pulsar wigeon
but height isn't included so uhhh?
potent fossil
ya am dont know how to start
ancient bolt
Why do I constantly come up with new ideas for massive projects that I wouldn't be able to do even if I didn't have 5 other projects piled on me right now
potent fossil
ancient bolt
to is
static badge
yeah I'm retarded
ancient bolt
maybe in 2030 I can revisit this Idea if I still remember it
static badge
but yeah I think perimeter includes the half circle and the rectangle part