general

[worn ember]

no

[void void]

if you can self host stuff

[limber knot]

we were on mattermost but shut it down, dont wanna host it

[void void]

damn

[wide chasm]

Efficient. If it dies in a hole it already got it's grave.

[limber knot]

someone ping Glare to add e

me

plz

[twin lagoon]

@fallen oracle

[limber knot]

simple#5957 sir

thanks

[static badge]

what happened to you simple

[limber knot]

they disabled my account for "doxxing"

i've never doxxed before in my life

[ashen cliff]

aka. not being a furry.

[limber knot]

110% sure some of those fucks in spigot discord mass reported me

no

i called them all retards

because they are

and fucking children

so yeah, probably mass reported.

so if i get my acc back i wont be there.

[vague geode]

Hey, anyone know of a plugin that allows me to move my inventory to nearby chest with matching items?

[potent fossil]

k can talk now

almost indistinguishable

[ashen cliff]

Just need the nitro and hype squad badges.

[potent fossil]

fuck nitro not paying these fucking cucks ever again

[ashen cliff]

Welcome to the club.

[void void]

reported for doxx
called people retarded before

[granite salmon]

i got gifted nitro once, I didn't miss it too much

[void void]

wow you really did doxx them then i guess

by exposing their intelligence

[potent fossil]

the best case of 'doxx' proof i can guess is when that spammer was in spigot and i send a grabify link

which got a fucking VPN

[void void]

[potent fossil]

yeah i sure doxxed him good

really exposed his private info discord

[static badge]

so you tried to dox him lol

kek get fucked retard

[potent fossil]

actually, i sent the dox link in IRC

[static badge]

EXCUSES

[potent fossil]

and it was bridged in to discord

[static badge]

HAHAHA

[granite salmon]

exposed

[pulsar wigeon]

why are we doing spigot drama here 👀

[granite salmon]

we r not

[potent fossil]

i was banned from discord wiz

[pulsar wigeon]

we better not be

[potent fossil]

🙂

[static badge]

for trying to dox

[mortal zinc]

i like how you associate drama with spigot

any drama = it's spigotmc's fault!

[potent fossil]

it literally just records the request ip yes barty

[mortal zinc]

or it's md_5's fault lmao

[potent fossil]

vector in this case, it was

[mortal zinc]

o

[granite salmon]

it's always md

[mortal zinc]

something about doxing huh

oh noes

[potent fossil]

but whatever, i sent the support ticket so no point to continue discussing it. if i lose all my shit, that fucking sucks. but whatever.

[mortal zinc]

that brings me back years ago

[potent fossil]

i mean, shit. yeah i guess i technically did, but i had no intention of exposing 'private info' that's typically associated with a dox. but yes, i did. pretty stupid

[mortal zinc]

i suppose there isn't a better way than doxing someone?

[static badge]

now it's no longer discord's fault

take the L simple :>

[potent fossil]

yeah i took it, all i can do is beg for them to reinstate my acc

like a little bitch

[mortal zinc]

what about..... dare I say, forgive or possibly work it out? and if not possible, just part ways? why do people always have to go nuclear and put someone's info out to the public?

[potent fossil]

whatever am going to get coffee

@mortal zinc all i did was send a grabify link to a spammer

from IRC and it got bridged to discord

[mortal zinc]

ah

[potent fossil]

i wasn't trying to ruin this fuckers life

but yes, still fucked

im not innocent

[mortal zinc]

we all aren't

we = people

what's worse is when you don't deserve your info spread everywhere, let people still do it to spite you

[potent fossil]

i dunno, whatever. it's over. if i get my acc back great. if not, well

[mortal zinc]

that happened to me

[potent fossil]

fuck

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[polar sonnet]

mmm yes ram mm yummy yumm let me eat is mm

[potent fossil]

what

[polar sonnet]

IDk

[granite salmon]

uwot

[polar sonnet]

kek

[granite salmon]

nice

[potent fossil]

yeah, i was getting doxed by some kid called SysDev actually. he went further than i ever did. he was quoting my real name and email and looked me up in pwned dbs and was sending my old passwords

in spigot

🙂

[granite salmon]

sysdev i've heard that name

[potent fossil]

idgaf as all that shit was public anyway

but still, he went further than i did

why is he not banned

lmao

yup

i remember

im telling you, that discord is full of absolute children

literally as well as figuratively

whatever, maybe im being a boomer

14-16

they are literally all in that age range

they spam, they scream, they do earrape in the voice channels

all of it

[void void]

EARRAPE

wtf

[potent fossil]

anyway going to make coffee and get some food

i got some other shit to do

im back in the discord i need to be in for now

[polar sonnet]

I do not do that

^

[potent fossil]

hosting a lounge instance and getting on IRC may not be a terrible idea

fairly user friendly

[void void]

thelounge

.g thelounge.chat

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://thelounge.chat/ -- The Lounge: "The Lounge is a self-hosted web IRC client for the modern world."

[ashen cliff]

I think we can agree that most users on Discord are under 13.

[polar sonnet]

I dont think thats true at all ?

[granite salmon]

^

[polar sonnet]

Im sure we will never know though

[ashen cliff]

Go dig at some random servers, not the big ones, as they get reported pretty fast.

[polar sonnet]

Oh

[granite salmon]

I've never found anyone under that

[polar sonnet]

Same still

[granite salmon]

🤔

[polar sonnet]

Does discord ask for an age?

[ashen cliff]

Nope.

[polar sonnet]

Ah

[granite salmon]

people would just lie anyway

[polar sonnet]

^

You think IM old enough to be on the hub buddy

[granite salmon]

[ashen cliff]

Imagen not setting your YouTube age to 70 when you were just 11 years old.

[polar sonnet]

Imagine waiting to use p*rnhub

Momm can u make me an account it says I have to be 18

You agree you are 18 when you go there

Mhm

🧢

Thats a fun one

[unreal quarry]

theres only two types of people in the world. those that have visited PH, and those that lie

[polar sonnet]

I have $30 sitting in my old account

[potent fossil]

PH is the abbrev for Philippines. Don't ruin that good name

[polar sonnet]

Thats when I ask for my mommy

[slender jay]

paypal is the worst

[heady spear]

god bukkit entity interfaces are a fucking mess and a half

[polar sonnet]

She is fully supportive of my "entreprenuarship"

[slender jay]

i waited 180 days to get my money out of there

[polar sonnet]

Im learning business skills, custom support, etc

Atleast thats what I told her

[slender jay]

even after supplying everything they asked for

nope

[polar sonnet]

They've asked me one over a course of 4 years

[slender jay]

they blocked my account based on "FrEqUeNt TrAnSaCtIoNs"

[heady spear]

https://pastie.io/eehwfb.kotlin
we are categorising entities based on their interfaces, because there's no default entity tags, like there are blocks, and this is a fucking nightmare. Why is enderdragon a boss but not a mob, whereas the wither is both, and parrots aren't flying 🙂 Slimes aren't monsters, nor are phantoms.

Leash knot thingies are Hanging, and all of the exploding fireballs are not projects.

[void void]

calling paypal actually helps? lmao

[heady spear]

Sometimes bukkit makes me sad 😦

[polar sonnet]

Mmm yes money laundering

[limber knot]

mikroskeem, the last time I called paypal they locked my account lmaoo

[heady spear]

Also yes, calling PayPal is one of the best ways to get urgent support lol

[void void]

one day i changed my paypal password

[potent fossil]

Tips to use PayPal without getting blocked or mistreated:

☑️ live in the USA

[limber knot]

^

[ashen cliff]

Calling GoDaddy and telling them to fuck off was the best thing I did after moving 1 of my domains from there.

[void void]

mobile app allowed me to pass password something longer than 20 characters

[polar sonnet]

Namecheap ftw

[fallen oracle]

Also don't log in under a VPN

[heady spear]

I had to send in a photo of my password twice

[void void]

then i tried to log in

[slender jay]

when you live somewhere where paypal support is nonexistant

[polar sonnet]

$1 domain for a whole year baby

[slender jay]

cries

[heady spear]

yes don't use a fucking VPN or they'll lock you out

[polar sonnet]

.xyz ontop

[void void]

and was thinking why the fuck i couldn't log in. apparently they'll truncate the password to 20 characters

i locked my account out

[ashen cliff]

Public VPN

[void void]

i called them

didn't get responded with anything useful

[heady spear]

before when I used to withdraw money they would lock the transaction for a week and refuse to answer any support tickets =))

[limber knot]

mikroskeem, I got this too. The form doesn't let you type more into the field anymore but my pw manager put a much larger than allowed pw in

[polar sonnet]

[void void]

yeah the web form does not

well that too yeah

but phone app does allow more than 20

[fallen oracle]

How does that lock your account?

[void void]

password?

[polar sonnet]

@still smelt WTF was he buying crack?

[void void]

i kept inserting my long af password

multiple failed login attempts locked it

also another very very bad thing about paypal: no 2FA

[polar sonnet]

^

^

^
^
^

[void void]

anything related to money

since when?

[polar sonnet]

Is it possible to put 2fa on a linux server?

[ashen cliff]

Since never.

[void void]

yes

[polar sonnet]

Is it possible to put 2fa on a linux server?
@polar sonnet

[void void]

authy

muh proprietary bullshit

bitwarden or fug off

[potent fossil]

why are you using that word viper

not cool

[void void]

neat, alright

i'll look into it barty

[potent fossil]

https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/698684933484314674

[void void]

in 2017, last time i used paypal more than... i do now

it didn't

[ashen cliff]

The F word.

[potent fossil]

you should know which word you literally just used

[vestal jasper]

the fuck you mean can't use links on mobile

works fine for me

[polar sonnet]

Hey anyone here ever work with a guy named Atumn

Autumn*

[void void]

i mean wtf

[polar sonnet]

Autumn
#3398

[granite salmon]

no

[void void]

can we please deal with that

i can't do a shit wdym

[polar sonnet]

scammed me man

Sucked

[slender jay]

well paypal made sure i wouldnt use their services ever again not that i would after what happened

[polar sonnet]

$15 WHOLE DOLLARS GONE

thats like 1gb of ram on mcprohost

[mortal zinc]

via spigot-dev on IRC

[16:54:36] <Vector> are there ever serious discussions about a core dev team in spigot? and what happens when those discussions take place?

this should be good

[slim nymph]

@polar sonnet yes

[polar sonnet]

what?

[slim nymph]

er i was scrolled up

[polar sonnet]

Oh

[vestal jasper]

time to learn byof

[slim nymph]

but you can put 2fa on ssh

[polar sonnet]

can or cant*

[slim nymph]

can

[polar sonnet]

I really need to

[slim nymph]

google google authenticator ssh

it's a PAM Module

[ashen cliff]

https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/configure-ssh-2fa#1-overview

Looks simple.

[slim nymph]

even prints the QRCode in the bash terminal lol

[granite salmon]

never!

[polar sonnet]

I dont want to get bruteforced

[slim nymph]

a key yes is secure enough

[void void]

just... disable password authentication

and use ssh keys

[polar sonnet]

wat

[limber knot]

yes use key

[slim nymph]

this 2fa usually only engages on password auth

[void void]

🙄

[slim nymph]

if your ssh key has a password on it, that is 2fa 🙂

[limber knot]

Aikar, imagine PasswordAuthentication yes

[polar sonnet]

Your telling me i dont have to enter the root password everytime i log in

[granite salmon]

heh im good then

[potent fossil]

i need 3fa

[void void]

logging over ssh as a root???

bruh

[polar sonnet]

yeah eyah ik

[void void]

that's another thing you should not do

lmao

[limber knot]

uh

everyone here can fight me on that

[slim nymph]

key = what you have, password on key = what you know

[limber knot]

i see no issue logging in as root

[golden gust]

I don't understand the root == evil thing

[void void]

bad practice having root logins enabled imho

[golden gust]

the alternative is that you start handing out sudo perms, which imho is just as bad

[void void]

well if you enable passwordless sudo, sure

many people do

[slim nymph]

root isnt evil, its to simply prevent accidents, but soon as you have an accident on a sudo'd command, bam same thing

[slender jay]

if you know what you are doing root isnt that bad

[golden gust]

I do everything on a seperate account

[polar sonnet]

I literally do it just to start the server (which is also a bad practice)

[golden gust]

When I gotta mess around with packages, etc, I use root

[slim nymph]

the bigger reason for no root login is audit

to know who runs the command

[void void]

yeah

that

[mortal zinc]

perhaps people equate it to giving a root account to everyone, and being SOL if one person does something maliciously

[golden gust]

Yea, shared environments is a whole different matter

[polar sonnet]

^

i think?

[potent fossil]

yeah audit is killer lol, i remember getting cracked down by audit for using the superuser acc on our document storage system

[mortal zinc]

you have to go change the password, and give it to everyone else again

[polar sonnet]

nope click delete bam uh oh shit broke

[golden gust]

sudo auth is cached

[mortal zinc]

apply sudo to whoever you want root rights to, and if they do something bad either remove sudo or their account

[void void]

just serve ssh over https port

.g nginx ssh and https

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://superuser.com/questions/1135208/can-nginx-serve-ssh-and-https-at-the-same-time-on-the-same-port -- Can nginx serve SSH and HTTP(S) at the same time on the...: "Since nginx version 1.15.2 added new variable $ssl_preread_protocol . And in official blog added post about how to use this variable for multiplexing..."

[polar sonnet]

I wish putty wouldnt auto close

[golden gust]

never heard of putty autoclosing, but never really used it, it was bleh

[polar sonnet]

Like disconnecting ig?

[golden gust]

cygwin was the hype back in those days

[polar sonnet]

After inactivity on pc

[limber knot]

ew cloud

mobAXTERM GANG

[void void]

... git bash's mintty

[polar sonnet]

mmm yes mcprohost control panel

[void void]

[polar sonnet]

What are your guys thoughts on reliablesite?

[void void]

.g reliablesite

[polar sonnet]

For dedis

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.reliablesite.net/ -- ReliableSite: Bare Metal Servers | Windows Servers | Linux...: "Reliablesite is a Dedicated Server provider out of NY, Miami, and Los Angeles that offers affordable and reliable server solutions for small to large..."

[golden gust]

RS themselves are pretty amazing in my experience

their peer is pretty shitty, however

[polar sonnet]

Cause I've had no issue and it was cheap af for what I was getting

[ashen cliff]

They better be good for that price.

[polar sonnet]

$50 i7, 32 gb ram and 500gb ssd

Pog

[ashen cliff]

Hetzner has corrupted my heart.

[polar sonnet]

Only issue I had was a setup issue

Failed installation like 2

Idk I havent had any issues

[ashen cliff]

I had 1 issue with Hetzner till now, their PXE boot stopped working, but that was after I flashed a custom bios that allowed me to set the power limit... It still booted, but no recovery.

[polar sonnet]

f

I really gotta learn to optimize shit

Does overclocking increase the tps lol

[golden gust]

well, making the CPU go faster...

You don't, you use IMPI

iPMI

[slender jay]

hetzner has never let me down

[golden gust]

or whatever they cased it as

[void void]

or KVM

[unreal quarry]

having more than 1 account with sudo access in a shared environment in itself is scary. too many cheifs, not enough indians. anyone with sudo can fake being anyone else... sudo su aikar for instance

[polar sonnet]

InternetPornManagerInternet

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Platform_Management_Interface -- Intelligent Platform Management Interface - Wikipedia: "The Intelligent Platform Management Interface (IPMI) is a set of computer interface specifications for an autonomous computer subsystem that provides..."

[polar sonnet]

oh

[golden gust]

Well, IPMI is what provides the KVM ;P

[void void]

hmm

hetzner's kvm refers to latronic's solutions

.g latronic kvm

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.lantronix.com/products/lantronix-spider/ -- Spider Network Remote KVM over IP Switch | Lantronix: "Lantronix Spider provides secure Remote KVM over IP switches for KVM server management. and guarantees non-blocked access without the need for ..."

[void void]

that

which smells like some cheap ass bs

also feels like one

[void void]

@ashen cliff wut, custom bios

[polar sonnet]

intel core i7 4790 good for mc?

[void void]

tell me more

[golden gust]

Yea, proper solutions generally use iPMI as it's literally built into the mobo

[ashen cliff]

Dump the bios, edit it with the UEFI tool, flash that abomination.

[void void]

ah lol ok

[polar sonnet]

intel core i7 4790 yes

or

no

[golden gust]

Pretty sure that OVH used to do similar before they got boards which offer iPMI for things like the i7, etc, you'd rent the KVM thing for an hour or a few dozen or something

[void void]

i thought there are some shady premade firmwares uploaded somewhere for those hetzner i9 boxes

but if it's that easy then lmao time to experiment

[ashen cliff]

Like Hetzner just gives you all their firmware.

[polar sonnet]

mm yes juul good mm

[ashen cliff]

Need Samsung SSD firmware? It's right there.

Need a 20 year old bios? Right there.

[void void]

[polar sonnet]

juul on minecraft

[ashen cliff]

/root/.oldroot/nfs/ while in Rescue boot.

I think the whole thing is like 300GB at this point.

[void void]

yeah i've been lurking there

though i should try mounting the nfs while not in recovery mode, to lurk there again

however i have no damn clue what the nfs endpoint was

and cba to reboot either lel

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2020-04-12_02-24-32.png

Imagen not knowing the password.

[void void]

imagen not knowing

i don't

:(

[ashen cliff]

hetzner
download

[void void]

bet it's something very simple

wtf

[ashen cliff]

Super sekret.

[void void]

[polar sonnet]

haxx0r

[ashen cliff]

Anyway that's just the basic images, the real stuff actually has a temp password.

[small oak]

Hi

[gleaming rivet]

i'm looking to replace Easybackup with something a little better and more secure, what backup scripts do you guys use :D?

easybackup is garbage, i know xd

[void void]

zfs snapshot -r mcpool/server/xyz@"$(date +%someformat)"

[gleaming rivet]

huh?

thats a snapshot of the server only?

[void void]

a whole server, yes

[gleaming rivet]

does it save everything?

stupid question

sorry.

[void void]

creates a snapshot of the dir, lol

thus everything

but idk if zfs is ok for your workload

[gleaming rivet]

ehm

not sure what that means

[polar sonnet]

Whats the difference of that and manually copying the directory to another directory and zipping it @void void

[void void]

snapshots are cheaper

they take less space on disk

they can also be created in like 0s lol

[gleaming rivet]

what about complications with sqlite databases?

[void void]

so snapshot and go on basically instead of waiting

[gleaming rivet]

does that happen using snapshot?

[void void]

backing up while server runs is not a very wise idea

thus with sqlite... it might work if all the data it has is flushed to disk

but no clue; i don't use sqlite anywhere myself

[gleaming rivet]

mhm

i would need a backup solutions that can run while the server is running

[void void]

also zfs... well you might also end up with shittier read/write speeds and huger memory usage

haven't experienced first issue myself yet

but latter, sure. zfs arc cache is big chonk at times lol

alternative option is btrfs tbh

does the same

[gleaming rivet]

tar with a crontab?

while the server is running?

[void void]

and also you have it installed on your favourite linux distro already very likely

barty wtf

zstd or bust

[gleaming rivet]

what is wrong with tar.gz?

[void void]

lower compression ratio

than with zstd

or with xz

xz takes bit more time but might achieve better compression

i used it for years

in 2016-2017 i used tar.xz archives and btrfs combo; made read-only snapshots while server was running, archived the snapshot, nuked the snapshot and sent newly generated archive over ssh to diff machine

now i just have... sanoid

lol

.g zfs sanoid

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://github.com/jimsalterjrs/sanoid -- jimsalterjrs/sanoid: Policy-driven snapshot management ......: "Sanoid is a policy-driven snapshot management tool for ZFS filesystems. When combined with the Linux KVM hypervisor, you can use it to make your..."

[void void]

pew, less things to invent myself

[gleaming rivet]

so what i understand is, basically anything than easybackup is good xD?

[void void]

wtf is that ye

[gleaming rivet]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/⭐-easybackup-⭐-easy-and-powerful-backup-service-protecting-servers-since-2015.8017/

oh yikes

what a link

yes

[upper flicker]

That’s a nice link you’ve got there

[gleaming rivet]

fixed xd

[void void]

ah yes getting cucked by cf again

[gleaming rivet]

google being yikes there, sorry.

[void void]

fuck captcha

l o l must log in to see the resource

[gleaming rivet]

i didn't pay 15 euro

[void void]

ok

[gleaming rivet]

it doesn't even do tar

its winrar

[void void]

w h a t

.wa 2996 * 15

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Result: 44940 - https://is.gd/dxKEjZ

[gleaming rivet]

he did alot of fuck ups

so many people have downloaded it multiple times

[void void]

44940eur for that shit

wtf

[gleaming rivet]

don't think he earned that much

[void void]

hnnnnnng i want to get easy money too like that

[gleaming rivet]

i've downloaded it 20 times

[void void]

:(

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Result: 7185 - https://is.gd/A5Yt0b

[void void]

fucks sake

[gleaming rivet]

and its not even good

[void void]

i'll start uploading my private plugins to spigot tomorrow

[gleaming rivet]

currently backing 53gb up, it started 2:15 xd

and its 2:53 now xd

also chewing my cpu in half

[void void]

filesystem level snapshots would save your ass right now though

[jagged egret]

I've always thought integrating git into MC backups would be cool

[void void]

.g borg backup

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/ -- Borg Backup: "BorgBackup (short: Borg) is a deduplicating backup program. Optionally, it supports compression and authenticated encryption. The main goal of Borg..."

[void void]

hm

i thought it was more related to gir

git

btw changing to zstd from gz is easy af, that cannot sit behind "cba"

lol

just the matter of one tar flag, or changing the process in pipeline

[gleaming rivet]

would this be fine while the server is running?
https://github.com/nicolaschan/minecraft-backup

[void void]

well newer tar can invoke zstd yeah

like it does gz

otherwise....

[fallen oracle]

@gleaming rivet For premium plugins, the total downloads you see is the number of buyers. Doesn't matter how many times you download it.

[void void]

man tar

[gleaming rivet]

oh jesus

thats probably why the dev is such an asshole then

he earned bank

[void void]

there's no shorthand flag for zstd bte

[pulsar wigeon]

buyers + ppl added to sellers list manually, no?

[void void]

btw*

[fallen oracle]

Correct

[void void]

it's basically tar --zstd ...

[fallen oracle]

It's the size of the buyers list

[void void]

barty wuts the tar cmd you're using

[fallen oracle]

looks at mcmmo

He's almost gotten the same amount of buyers in a little over a year than the mcmmo classic in 6 years

[gleaming rivet]

but mcmmo is worth it

easybackup isn't

[jagged egret]

is it

[fallen oracle]

I didn't say it wasn't.

I love mcmmo and nossr is awesome.

[gleaming rivet]

nossr actually care for his buyers

[fallen oracle]

Indeed

[polar sonnet]

mcmmo lags my server sometimes

packet lag

tps drop*

[gleaming rivet]

wooooow

this is nice

https://github.com/kompetenzbolzen/minecraft-server-tools

basically what i need

[void void]

basically yeet -z flag barty

so it's simply -cf

and add --zstd

ye

i've used .zst

if your tar version is too old

then just use a pipe

1.32 shows gnu page

idk

ah 1.31 added zstd

more than a year ago

tar --exclude=file --exclude=file2 -cf - /path/to/directory | zstd > /path/to/backups/$archive_file

that'll be with pipe then

tbh using pipe is generally neat idea overall, easier to pass flags for the compressor

e.g for xz i used to add -9 -T 0

to try harder and abuse all cpu cores

tar supports passing them itself too via some flag, but...

who tf has time to remember all those flags

.g xkcd tar

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://xkcd.com/1168/ -- tar - xkcd: "Image URL (for hotlinking/embedding): https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tar.png. [A woman and a man wearing a white hat stand next to a nuclear bomb. The..."

xkcd: tar

I don't know what's worse--the fact that after 15 years of using tar I still can't keep the flags straight, or that after 15 years of technological advancement I'm still mucking with tar flags that were 15 years old when I started.

[void void]

basic yea

fuck no

though i've never managed to mistype ls

no

[upper flicker]

That tar xkcd hasn’t aged well now that you don’t necessarily need to say what specific acrhive type it is

tar -xvf will do most anymore

[void void]

yeah

unless ur on bsd

[upper flicker]

pffffy

[void void]

bsdtar still requires special (de)compression flags

i bet gnu tar uses libmagic to detect compressiom tbh

[upper flicker]

FreeBSD still ships with an ascii encoding by default

[void void]

REEEE

[upper flicker]

The bsds are not the bar

[void void]

.g freebsd bad defaults

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11318508 -- FreeBSD – a lesson in poor defaults | Hacker News: "Mar 19, 2016 ... He was the FreeBSD Security Officer for a while (but stepped down some ... The author's argument that pkg is bad because Debian apt..."

ran290

FreeBSD – a lesson in poor defaults

Hacker News · Mar 19, 2016, 1:55 PM

[void void]

np lol

[upper flicker]

it’s easy to switch it to utf8, but I really shouldn’t have to do that in 2020

[void void]

i wonder

how well would xz do

xz -9 -T 2 -vvv

-T 2 to use 2 cores, otherwise max ram limit xz will use hops exponentially

esp for that large dataset

seeing xz wanting to take 78gib of memory on my 8gib wam laptop wasn't really fun

nice

should set up email/sms notifications for shit like that

people might think "who the fuck wants to receive monitoring over sms" but then again better know about drastical issues sooner than later lol

especially in... backup server

[ashen cliff]

So 24/7?

nice -n 19 ionice -c2 -n7 tar --exclude="ServerName-$_now.tar.zst" --exclude="/sys" --exclude="/proc" -I pzstd -cvf ServerName-$_now.tar.zst /
That's what I use, to avoid the IO rabbit hole.

[void void]

-I pzstd?

[ashen cliff]

Parallel ZSTD.

[void void]

mod of zstd or....?

[ashen cliff]

It's included.

[void void]

though nice/ionice ain't bad idea

should look more into them, thanks

[ashen cliff]

Anyway, PZSTD is included in the zstd package.

They even have zstdcat so you can cat logs.

[jagged egret]

lol moving blocks have blast resistance 0

[lime eagle]

\flags

[jagged egret]

so it's possible to make an ancient debris auto-mining flying machine

.flags

[limber knot]

Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs

[jagged egret]

ftfy

[gleaming rivet]

imma just kms

nope

just the world

a 53GB world that is

the world and some plugin configs

[fallen oracle]

For 1k he'll do what

Ahh

[void void]

craftimize

[fallen oracle]

Some shit just went down with them, didnt it?

Like he had backdoors in the servers.

Found it https://ripcraftimize.com/

[heady spear]

https://github.com/Pluto999/PlotSquared/commit/2a3a115cffdfbce08cf93bf0f4805530ca387df8
bruh someone forked PS, changed the name of the author in the bukkit module and that's the only commit

because same

[fallen oracle]

😂😂

[heady spear]

nukkit* module

so it doesn't matter because it's broken

but still wtf

It's version 5 as well which doesn't support Nukkit what so ever, not even a little o_o

[polar sonnet]

@heady spear tldr?

[mortal zinc]

rofl

[polar sonnet]

and i no understandeh

comprehnda

[mortal zinc]

well you are in a server full of devs, so I'm sorry for your feels

[polar sonnet]

I am rarted

Oh i read i

If you worked with craftimize you most likely have a backdoor?

No?

[fallen oracle]

Just read the website.

[polar sonnet]

I am

[limber knot]

basically, if he decided you were shady enough he'd backdoor your server

[polar sonnet]

Aw?

Is that a bad thing?

[limber knot]

in my opinion yes

barty: we asked him to remove it.

we're not comfortable with him using us to promote his service.

[polar sonnet]

What did he consider shady?

[limber knot]

especially since we no longer run any of his code.

apparently me being standoffish about giving him full access to my machines was a bit too shady

cause' I got the backdoor

[polar sonnet]

What would he consider shady?
exactly

[heady spear]

what now barty?

I miss all the fun stuff 😦

[limber knot]

they have a discord? lol

[heady spear]

I'm in there, I just don't know where to start lol

[void void]

airee did you reinstall the machine after that shit lol

[polar sonnet]

event.sendbroadcastmessage"no understandeh por favor"

[orchid pelican]

I would lol

[void void]

you should if you care about the stuff, some shit probably went unnoticed...

[limber knot]

Cityweebstret: after stopping my business with a big player in the server optimization space, I discovered a backdoor on my server. it was phoning home to one of his known servers

[void void]

you'll never know in the end

[limber knot]

he claimed it was DRM, but it was just piping anything his server said to straight to the root account

https://ripcraftimize.com/

[jagged egret]

mmm love that

[limber knot]

(not my domain, they're far from dead)

he has said he's taking a break from doing optimizations for now though

still have their regular overpriced sysadmin services going

[fallen oracle]

Drama drama drama.

[limber knot]

yep

[fallen oracle]

What server do you run ( if you don't mind me asking).

[limber knot]

the seed

work with a few other large ones

[fallen oracle]

Ohh so that's you

Did you write the site?

[polar sonnet]

I think I just requested to follow you on twitter airee

is your handle @Aireesan

[limber knot]

yeah

[polar sonnet]

oh sweet

[limber knot]

I did write the site

[fallen oracle]

Alrighty

[polar sonnet]

Ah

[limber knot]

jake owns the domain cause he's a meme

[fallen oracle]

It was a good read. Read it yesterday while taking a shit instead of scrolling through Reddit.

[limber knot]

lmao

[void void]

lol

[limber knot]

https://craptimize.com/ also exists LOL

i don't even know who owns that one

[fallen oracle]

The icing on the cake is if there was a background music that automatically started playing.

[polar sonnet]

put pornhub intro

[gleaming rivet]

rick asley music 😉

[polar sonnet]

Whats masons name

[limber knot]

hb sexual healing by marvin gay

[fallen oracle]

Mason

[polar sonnet]

Have yall ever worked with jasmine?

[limber knot]

really intimate for your toilet reads

[polar sonnet]

Or named jasmine

[fallen oracle]

I'd love that Airee.

[limber knot]

marvin gaye*

[fallen oracle]

Did his services work?

[limber knot]

eh

yeah i guess

it's just that he had a monopoly on this kind of thing

[fallen oracle]

Ahh

[limber knot]

if you find a really good dev you can just have your own server-specific patches made, which is what we're doing now

[fallen oracle]

I prefer the development side of it.

[polar sonnet]

imagine backdooring and losing more potentional customs and your source of income ultimately becoming the downfall of all you love and know

[limber knot]

20tps @ 130 players, 4 real view distance & 6 vanity view distance

no afks

[polar sonnet]

how tf

[limber knot]

on our new fork

[fallen oracle]

1.15?

[limber knot]

yep

[polar sonnet]

i pay $5 month for it

[fallen oracle]

That's pretty dope.

[polar sonnet]

deal

[limber knot]

yeah our devs a beast

barty nope. dropped off after 110 or so

really badly

and his vanity view distance patch didn't work

[ashen cliff]

That means 2b2t is also backdoored.

[fallen oracle]

That's another reason I'm glad I'm not on the owner side is the competition. I love development and the result of finishing a project.

[polar sonnet]

Again! @ashen cliff

[limber knot]

krusic22 probably not

[polar sonnet]

lmfao

[ashen cliff]

But there is a chance.

[limber knot]

yeah well

what are you gonna do, sue him?

[polar sonnet]

[limber knot]

i feel like such a boomer

opening emojis in my web browser

yes it's very pepega

[polar sonnet]

Want to see some of my pro code guys?

[limber knot]

sure

[heady spear]

https://github.com/IntellectualSites/PlotSquared/pull/412
lol this was before Matt abandoned PlotMe and joined PlotSquared. How precious

[limber knot]

uhoh

we got a computer scientist over here

[polar sonnet]

i much code very well yes

[fallen oracle]

At least use a switch statement 4head

[polar sonnet]

shiiit your right

kek

[fallen oracle]

I don't even know how to code and I know that

[polar sonnet]

I used to make pocketmine plugins

Was pretty average at that once i learned the api

[limber knot]

pretty sure I bought a plugin from your glare

big monkas

i bought deluxequeues

[fallen oracle]

Oh God

[limber knot]

i tried to contact you for support

you never answered

[polar sonnet]

YO shit!
I bought your plugin!

Whoa

[limber knot]

smh

[fallen oracle]

I don't respond to SpigotMC DMs

[limber knot]

yeah i basically hunted you on discord tho

[limber knot]

we have like 20 mutual servers at this point

[fallen oracle]

Also that plugin is getting a full rewrite once school calms down.

[polar sonnet]

Never really figured out how to setup guilds but i was also stuiped

[limber knot]

you weren't allowing msgs from anyone lmao

[fallen oracle]

Yeah... I used to get like 50 pings while sleeping

50 DMs*

[runic quarry]

How does one become a true taytay fan in this server

[polar sonnet]

^^

[fallen oracle]

Let's not talk about DQ.... I've learned a lot since then. The next version will actually work as much as it should.

Now VP and Guilds on the other hand, I'm proud of.

[heady spear]

ok I'm all caught up with the drama but why is this mason dude in my discord lol

[runic quarry]

oh hi barty

[limber knot]

our discord bot is uh

gonna not be shit

[fallen oracle]

Barry, Guilds is getting a new buffs system next update. Then after that is claiming system.

[limber knot]

i hate that code messaging shit... just use oauth2 to join the server and associate the account

[fallen oracle]

Barty*

[heady spear]

I like Barry better

can we call him Barry

[limber knot]

ya like jazz

[runic quarry]

https://ci.memecdn.com/8845259.gif

[fallen oracle]

Airee talk on Discord so I can see mutual servers.

[polar sonnet]

@fallen oracle GRIEf prevention support

[heady spear]

IRC is cringe

[outer parcel]

asd

i work with like 6 servers so

[fallen oracle]

Ur not in helpchat

[outer parcel]

when i actually want to talk to people i use other programs

yeah i left bc its useless

[heady spear]

y'all in IntellectualSites

cringe

[outer parcel]

yeah it is cringe

[ashen cliff]

Via

[outer parcel]

they're huge assholes

[fallen oracle]

Clip is MIA

[vestal jasper]

city ur cringe

[heady spear]

who is a huge asshole

@vestal jasper I've missed u

[polar sonnet]

I hit 10 average plays pog!

players*

[vestal jasper]

sure you have city

[heady spear]

vic wanna see something kinda funny

[outer parcel]

the admins on IS

[fallen oracle]

VP getting Leaderboards soon

[vestal jasper]

hey city do you have any experience with nms and redstone

[outer parcel]

very holier-than-thou

[heady spear]

bruh

[outer parcel]

bot chastises you when you ping someone deemed important

yes i know you're an admin

[heady spear]

well tbf I did give the server away for a reason

@vestal jasper how many times did I leave?

3?

Ye IS sucks.

[outer parcel]

i have like 40 simps so

if anyone pings me they'll get doxed

[ashen cliff]

Oh no.

[polar sonnet]

Wait like actual simps?

[outer parcel]

typical power hungry brown nosing "can I apply for staff" people

[polar sonnet]

Uh

Oh

[gleaming rivet]

5$/month for an optimization dev O_O thats cheap

[polar sonnet]

^mmm backdoor

I dont think I would trust anyone with my server for $5

[gleaming rivet]

well you should not give them access to ur server

[heady spear]

people ping us all the damn time and I ban instantly nowadays idc who u r

[gleaming rivet]

they can do patches in test

[polar sonnet]

Ah

[heady spear]

if u ping then u're gone

[polar sonnet]

fair

But still

Im not even that dumb

[gleaming rivet]

Airee is ya dev for hire

[polar sonnet]

$10 or leave it

[gleaming rivet]

voteban for light theme

[fallen oracle]

I know one of those people in that screenshot.

[ashen cliff]

Goat.si?

[limber knot]

guess i'll go to my white themed irc client then

[fallen oracle]

Bothered the crap out of me.

[limber knot]

you're probably calling the police rn

[worn pasture]

LIGHT MODE

[limber knot]

:eyes:

[gleaming rivet]

Eifly isn't that one of the annoying lads that is in the paper-help alot?

[worn pasture]

RIP my nick colour

[fallen oracle]

That's one of the reasons I don't really do private commissions anymore. I wasn't a fan of doing a lot of work for a quick $10 here or $20 there because then I actually have to deal with people.

[heady spear]

^they're the worst

[limber knot]

and be an asshole

[worn pasture]

People are the worst

[fallen oracle]

My favorite is when they want changes / more done half way through.

[heady spear]

also sometimes you get $2000 then you forget to do the work and everyone calls you a scammer for two years

[fallen oracle]

If they are paying me hourly, I'm fine with that.

[limber knot]

Glare: don't work for not hourly yeha lol

[polar sonnet]

holy shit

I wish I had $2k to blow on imptimizations

[fallen oracle]

Yeah I don't do fixed price per project work now.

[limber knot]

if you needed the optimizations you'd be able to affort the $2k

that's the only way you can justify it, if you need it.

[polar sonnet]

Fair

[heady spear]

it was so easy making money from minecraft in 2014

[polar sonnet]

clearlag ftw

[heady spear]

people would just throw money everywhere

[gleaming rivet]

still is pretty easy tho

[fallen oracle]

I also don't really make too much. I don't even see any of the money I make from premium plugins. It goes directly into my college tuition fund.

[polar sonnet]

clearlag ftw

[gleaming rivet]

in these corona times it is

[polar sonnet]

^^

Jk i am essential

[heady spear]

I mean I pay my rent with minecraft money so 🤷‍♂️

[limber knot]

making a server rn :laugh:

[gleaming rivet]

i don't know if its like that on big scale

[limber knot]

:laughing:

[flat current]

is their a document or something for all the plugins?

[polar sonnet]

I think this would be the best time though lowkey

[limber knot]

irc cringe

[gleaming rivet]

but like we earn quite alot for a small server

[fallen oracle]

Luckily I don't have rent because I'm forced back home due to virus.

[heady spear]

I make no money from my plugins tho

at all

during the last 6 years I've lost money 😛

[limber knot]

academia got me nowhere

double masters

running minecraft server

[gleaming rivet]

xD

[fallen oracle]

But, yeah, when people ask for a refund (luckily very rarely) I have to ask them to wait a week or two so I can go mow a yard and make some money.

[limber knot]

double majors*

computer science & education

[polar sonnet]

I need someone to take my server to the next step

[ashen cliff]

To the 🗑️?

[polar sonnet]

i have vision just not yah know funds lmao

yeah probably

[outer parcel]

LMAO

[pulsar wigeon]

i suggest spigot's services forum

this isn't the place to recruit

[polar sonnet]

No no

Im not recruiting lmao

[outer parcel]

yeah...

[polar sonnet]

No no never that

Servers = money

Services*

[gleaming rivet]

he seems like someone who just does it for the money

which is bad

[polar sonnet]

Also not true

[gleaming rivet]

atleast doing it that way

[polar sonnet]

Its a decent learning experience for the future

[outer parcel]

what's wrong with doing things for money

[polar sonnet]

The money helps but thats it ig?

[outer parcel]

i'm fully content running 1 server but I'm opening 2 more for money

[polar sonnet]

I like watching the community grow

Its cool ig

[outer parcel]

I won't hate it but I'd be financially fine with 1 server and probably happier with 1 too

But being able to buy nicer things and save more money is nice

[fallen oracle]

In the course of having a demo server for projects for about a year, I've only had 76 people join the server

😂😂

[polar sonnet]

Eventually you will have to look at it as a job

Hypixel isnt running for "fun" anymore

Ig thats just my take

[gleaming rivet]

it never has lol

[polar sonnet]

Ik ik

[gleaming rivet]

^^

[outer parcel]

hypixel was never ran for fun lol

[polar sonnet]

well shit me sideways and fiddle a stick

[outer parcel]

mcprohosting needed a server to shill on

and then simon split off from that sponsorship and made a fucking game studio

[jagged egret]

lol hypixel hit 100,000 the other day

[gleaming rivet]

mcprohosting

[polar sonnet]

My friend was in a 4k queue todau @jagged egret

[fallen oracle]

Hopefully they weren't using DQ

[jagged egret]

ye my bro was in 5k they reduced the player cap to 85k to reduce lag

[polar sonnet]

Holy hypixel

LAGGING

jk i really dont know the logistics behind servers that big

[jagged egret]

lagging hard, too

[ashen cliff]

Really interesting in what the bottleneck is there.

[jagged egret]

It was just swamped with players ( I was in a lobby)

[polar sonnet]

Thats crazy

Yo glare i just realized i bought voteparties to

whoa

So your guy whos getting my money

pog

[fallen oracle]

I only took over it as dev a few months ago

[polar sonnet]

Ah

[fallen oracle]

Anything below 2.0 is clip.

Idk who gets my money, I just know my tuition bill is a tad lower now. Like, 5% a month.

Maybe I need to start selling feet pics.

[polar sonnet]

So howd you guys get into the development side of minecraft?

[jagged egret]

been in it since 2013

[outer parcel]

I'm not lol

[jagged egret]

actually only bought the game to develop lol

[fallen oracle]

I was tired of the game not doing what I wanted.

[outer parcel]

Just a block game capitalist here

[fallen oracle]

Taught myself Java through Guilds.

[gleaming rivet]

i'm not, i'm just in the server biz xd

[polar sonnet]

Another question. What are the odds hosting prices go down due to virus?

[jagged egret]

0

[gleaming rivet]

0%

[jagged egret]

prices are going to go up

[outer parcel]

Negative

[jagged egret]

because there's more demand

[outer parcel]

OVH is taking forever to ship now

[fallen oracle]

Fun fact: Guilds was based off an old Disney game back from like 2008 that I played.

[polar sonnet]

Never really thought off it like that ig

[gleaming rivet]

self hosting is the best option atm

[polar sonnet]

You think?

Power + internet

[gleaming rivet]

atleast for me

[outer parcel]

It's extremely case to case basis

[gleaming rivet]

i guess

[jagged egret]

it depends on a large set of factors

[polar sonnet]

Alright kids we are hosting a server. NO tv for a month power bill is high

[ashen cliff]

Have fun with a DoS.
Tho a well placed Bungee can save you.

[outer parcel]

If you can get good ftth, good DDoS protection (tcpshield for free), and redundant power

[gleaming rivet]

@polar sonnet i don't have kids, if you can't afford power don't own a server

[outer parcel]

Go for it

[fallen oracle]

Airee, I through you a FR so you can have a direct line if you need it so you don't have to try to hunt me down again. I tend to disappear.

[outer parcel]

Alright

[gleaming rivet]

i've been running self hosted since 2013 never had a ddos problem.

[upper flicker]

can confirm, glare still ows me many tacos but keeps disappearing

[gleaming rivet]

i guess danes aren't script kiddies

[upper flicker]

probably not a coincidence

[jagged egret]

same Laukage

i mean I don't have any players but that's beside the point

[gleaming rivet]

xd

[polar sonnet]

@gleaming rivet Im talking about a power bill i didnt mean it like that ig

Just that it will go up

[jagged egret]

not really

[gleaming rivet]

not by alot

[polar sonnet]

I stand corrected

[gleaming rivet]

your gaming pc would pull more

[fallen oracle]

I mean, the taco fund you contributed to got me too excited and the tacos were too good.

[polar sonnet]

Deadass?

[gleaming rivet]

alone ur gpu would

[outer parcel]

I've been considering colocation

[jagged egret]

uhm no

cpu

[upper flicker]

thats how they get you

before long youre addicted

[fallen oracle]

Barty you can use HelpChat

[outer parcel]

Found a lot of servers with a good cpu

About 25 1u machines

[gleaming rivet]

iso2013 his gpu in his pc would pull more power than his server just alone, is what i meant

[outer parcel]

Only 13k

[ashen cliff]

2 machines per 1U?

[outer parcel]

25 x 1u

[ashen cliff]

:(

[polar sonnet]

What is a 1u machine?

[outer parcel]

1 unit of rack space

[fallen oracle]

I've got $30 to my name right now, I can't justify buying a $13K server

[polar sonnet]

Oh

[outer parcel]

Like 17

[polar sonnet]

@fallen oracle same

[outer parcel]

Had to count lol

[upper flicker]

$30 is enough for tacos though

👀

[fallen oracle]

Oh for sure

[polar sonnet]

We gor $13 of crate keys today baby

[fallen oracle]

I'll DoorDash sooner or later

[polar sonnet]

I get to eat!!!

[outer parcel]

17 instances of Minecraft in total

[gleaming rivet]

$30 is enough for 30 shit vpses

[polar sonnet]

or!

[outer parcel]

More like 30 shit containers

[fallen oracle]

I could colocate MCBanners

[polar sonnet]

5gb of ram from mcprohosting!!!

[upper flicker]

rather have some tacos than more random vpses

[fallen oracle]

Yeah me too

[upper flicker]

already got plenty of random vpses

[outer parcel]

But yeah those 25 machines could host 50 minecraft servers

With a total hosting bill of like 300/mo

[gleaming rivet]

what

[fallen oracle]

I don't think I need to colocate MCBanners tho someone did try to attack it the other day

[gleaming rivet]

thats cheap for rack space

where is that?

[outer parcel]

Hetzner is even cheaper

Psychz

[polar sonnet]

rs ftw

[outer parcel]

Rs?

[polar sonnet]

reliablesite

[outer parcel]

They don't colocate and they're shit

[polar sonnet]

Whats shit about them?

[outer parcel]

Support, builds, reliability

[fallen oracle]

Airee, imagine having sexy banners for all your servers