do you think people who spend 300 bucks on a closed source shitfest are people you should trust? ;D
#general
limber knotBOT
heady spear
ima repackage tuinity and sell it for $250
limber knotBOT
^
golden gust
We literally have a weekly trend of people screaming that jumping from one build to another killed their TPS, yet they've been shoving us timing reports for the past god knows how many months
proven lily
@pulsar wigeon we got a conversation here, i just sent this to show
pulsar wigeon
don't ping me
jagged egret
ooo fetch he pinged wiz
limber knotBOT
it's spicy
proven lily
how am i supposed to know that
heady spear
and the second time, and all the other times
void venture
It is in the rules actually
golden gust
reviews on MCM are also known to be pretty crappy, lots of the stuff they advertise is in the software they already forked from, others are patches lying around in the community or shitty fixes/bodgejobs for stupid things
proven lily
where are the rules
limber knotBOT
lol
jagged egret
@proven lily my point being with all of this is that 1) tnt optimizations in paper are already existent and high quality and 2) with all due respect, you're going to have a really hard time writing a better tnt optimization and selling it if you don't know how to use eclipse
pulsar wigeon
every public discord server has a rules channel that you're expected to read before participating
proven lily
where is it ?
limber knotBOT
those forks maye had improvements over 1.8, but that's literally because 1.8 is a 5 year old shitfest
limber knotBOT
yes you are :aaa:
limber knotBOT
that's on you then :p
proven lily
true
fallen oracle
Can you cirlce that for me? Can't see where you're pointing.
jagged egret
jagged egret
http://i.imgur.com/oN5kmzv.png aqui estamos
jagged egret
wat
limber knotBOT
what's that?
jagged egret
saying random nouns will not help us to understand what "left shooting" is
latent valve
wtf is left shooting
proven lily
with a cannon
pulsar wigeon
no one here gives a shit about 1.8 tnt mechanics
proven lily
in a base
static badge
proven lily
did i ask you specifically to answer my question
limber knotBOT
also pretty easily fixable with plugins lol
jagged egret
lool
static meteor
limber knotBOT
or not "fixable", but changeable
pulsar wigeon
rumdum, arguing is a quick way to get yourself banned
latent valve
๐ฟ gte your popcord ready!
pulsar wigeon
suggest you stop doing that
jagged egret
Moderators have leeway to interpret these rules and act in the best interests of the guild as a whole.
proven lily
pulsar wigeon
imagine thinking "shit" is discriminatory language
jagged egret
he misplaced the parentheses
limber knotBOT
there's even open source 1.8 forks that cover all of the other shit's "features" https://github.com/VictorML11/FluxSpigot
if you so desparately need it
pulsar wigeon
https://i.imgur.com/YDFN3tc.png hey there's even left shooting
jagged egret
he read it (language) and/or (content which can be reasonably considered discrimnatory) rather than (language and/or content) which can be reasonably considered discriminatory
pulsar wigeon
whatever the fuck that is
limber knotBOT
not that it's good either, but it's open for you =^]
jagged egret
i don't think he wanted to use one
autumn slate
limber knotBOT
it's to show that every single person even remotely considering to spend 300 bucks on a fork is mentally retarded
ashen cliff
If I find the person fingering my server with DNS amplification attacks, I will personally congratulate them and gift them Corona and Ebola.
thorn roost
ashen cliff
Also my left foot.
jagged egret
what's the average world height in Minecraft
limber knotBOT
terrain height?
wide chasm
Average would probably be ~water height, since water takes up a large portion of the world.
proven lily
would a java profiler help with plugins as well ?
wide chasm
Possibly, yes.
golden gust
well, potentially, yes
but timings is enough for a general overview of your plugins perf
otherwise you get into the quirks of samplers
jagged egret
no
limber knotBOT
no
proven lily
snapshot ?
jagged egret
like 10
left swift
Yikes
jagged egret
kek
left swift
One of those players
limber knotBOT
much yikes
wide chasm
They are expirementing with changes, not yet in 1.16 though
limber knotBOT
lol
jagged egret
the effect is worsened when the blocks are lit well
jagged egret
source?
proven lily
thanks for saving me $300
limber knotBOT
no problem. I consider every single person not getting scammed by those cucks and paying them an ungodly amount a win :aaa:
queen rapids
Last Updated - 2020-04-09 18:58:00 UTC
sleek citrus
pulsar wigeon
what changed tho
proven lily
can someone help me with git cloning ?
limber knotBOT
nothing changed there
queen rapids
oh
limber knotBOT
it still has the bullshit with the portable crafting table, lmao
lmao their definition of hard currency is insane
pulsar wigeon
text is exactly the same yea, dunno why they noted it updated
limber knotBOT
"Hard currency is [...] anything that can be converted into real money"
soooo playtime is "hard currency"?
pulsar wigeon
no?
limber knotBOT
because I can pay people to play for me
pulsar wigeon
how do you convert playtime into money
ashen cliff
5โฌ/hour
jagged egret
Mine still says Updated: 20 September 2017 09:55
limber knotBOT
2017 oO
jagged egret
at least, this one does https://account.mojang.com/documents/minecraft_eula
limber knotBOT
the commercial use is what is of interest rn
queen rapids
changes coming maybe...
wide chasm
Some of the guidelines are pretty... interesting. Like, what would be problematic about someone having to pay for "clearing your inventory"? It's a pretty stupid thing to sell, but I can't think of any reason how that would negatively affect gameplay for others not paying.
static meteor
Hey, i just bought Minecraft and i want to optimize it. I have searched quite a bit but mostly the sources are outdated or just not in-depth.
I found Aikar's site and set of flags but i'm not sure about all the details and how much of it is actually usefull for since i don't want to run a server.
I am looking for a set of java flags for just the client suiting my system.
My system: Ryzen 5 2600 @3,6GHz, 2x 8GB @3200MHz, GTX1070 (8GB)
Is there anyone who can guide me or provide a tweaked single player jvm argument line?
If this is "too much" for you guys i'd also be happy with a recommendation of a community that is specialized on client tweaks.
jagged egret
Mojang: "You may make money from Mods as described below in the section, "Servers and Hosting.""
me: scrolls down to servers and hosting
Servers and Hosting: makes no mention of Mods
limber knotBOT
.optimise
Guide for optimizing performance: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimizationโก.283181/
that and something pinned in #paper-help
jagged egret
does .optimize work too?
limber knotBOT
let's find out!
cosmic raft
well
limber knotBOT
.optimize
Guide for optimizing performance: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimizationโก.283181/
cosmic raft
Hypixel broke 100k players today
jagged egret
i can't imagine how many servers they have
limber knotBOT
they bouth over 100 dedicated servers since the recent rise, so that's a slight perspective <-<
s/bouth/bought
Correction, <KennyTV> they bought over 100 dedicated servers since the recent rise, so that's a slight perspective <-<
ok so apparently literally nothing changed on the commercial use page according to archive.org
static meteor
Guide for optimizing performance: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimizationโก.283181/
@Korobi#0000
How much of this is suitable for just a client or this asked too much?
I just want to tweak "my game" - not a server.
pulsar wigeon
none of it
limber knotBOT
I assume they just changed a link or something
pulsar wigeon
as i mentioned already, this is a server-focused community
static meteor
OK, well. Does anyone know where i can find help then?
limber knotBOT
technically it might be usefull for the single player server I guess xD
tbh optifine is only the cherry on the cake for 1.15
jagged egret
wdym
limber knotBOT
it's nice for its options or for very slow computers now, else 1.15 is quite nice with the client
latent valve
for mc EULA if someone do that people buy an online token/money and let them spend with that online toekn/money that doesnt violate eula right? ๐ค
static meteor
I can understand that you guys dont like if i talk about this here and i am not wanted in here with this topic.
So my last question, before i delete myself is: Do you know any other server that might be useful for this?
limber knotBOT
anything listed in the list would not be allowed
as well as other gameplay advantages
cobalt gulch
pulsar wigeon
yea you can ask, and like everyone said there's optifine, just don't expect more answers cuz we have no clue
jagged egret
and there are various minecraft communities i.e. on Reddit or whatever, but I really odn't think you need flags besides maybe giving more memory depending what you're doing
We also know giving the JVM too much memory is a bad idea
limber knotBOT
else go to something like fabricmc or forge for people that work closer with the client
I get constant 60 fps with shaders and 16 chunks render distance with only a Ryzen 5 3600 and a 1060GTX so ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
void venture
only
static meteor
OK, maybe i am demanding too much view distance wise then.(?)
limber knotBOT
yeah, I wasn't ready to spend 500 bucks just for my pc, lol
static meteor
Also, thanks for the bits of knowledge โจ
/experience
So, is there a common known mark at which memory allocation goes in the opposite direction performance wise=
*?
wide chasm
For servers about 10GB is usually recommended, but don't know if that holds for the client.
static meteor
I am wondering what fine means in your personal defintion
Ah
You know what would be optimal?
jagged egret
Potatoes.
static meteor
Purrfect!
golden gust
there is no magical silver bullet
wide chasm
Max 1536M? I'm wondering how you manage to pull that off, cause it wouldn't be the first time my MC ran out of RAM with a max of 2G.
static meteor
hmm..
limber knotBOT
it isnt
void venture
if I can run Minecraft in a Celeron with 2 gb of ram
jagged egret
TheViperShow has potato laptop confirmed
void venture
Not really
wide chasm
I can run MC on a 12 year old CPU without optifine, so it isn't that bad.
void venture
Optifine doesn't really help as much as some may claim
kind shale
Hello there! I'm switching from Spigot to Paper, where can I find the jar file for 1.15, I can only seem to find 1.15.2
golden gust
get off 1.15, you're literally just shooting yourself in the foot
wide chasm
I think my client settings are default.
golden gust
if you really wanna shoot yourself, noting that 1.15 is unsupported in every capacity, you can use the download API, ref the pins in #announcements
void venture
@still smelt bedrock performs a lot better
wide chasm
I tried ZGC at some point (raw, without any specific flags), but that wasn't a great idea
static meteor
Lets play: What jvm arguments would you recommend your little cousin ๐ฆ who wants "to minecraft" โ๏ธ with his smol potat PC (4x 2.8GHz + 8xGB RAM)? He wants to use Custom shaders so he also runs OptiFine.
kind shale
Thanks @golden gust
pulsar wigeon
tell him to dump that shitty block game
static meteor
LUL
static meteor
But what view distance?
jagged egret
It's broken. Do like 120 or 60
static meteor
oh
jagged egret
setting FPS to max will destroy client chunk loading
jagged egret
vsync is up to you, but it's usually better on
left swift
I had a bunch of kids on my server months ago crying they were only getting 800 fps instead of 1000
Then they asked me to install that old combat plugin
wide chasm
6 GB RAM
Intel Core2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00 GHz
Some integrated GPU stuff, don't know what
foggy elbow
Hello,
I don't know if people here are good at web (css/javascript),
But I wanted to know if it's possible to insert a buycraft website in my own website, so a window where it would be the buycraft website and I can click on the button etc.
I tried and the design work but the javascript wasn't added to my own site so button aren't clickable
jagged egret
.g javascript in iframe
limber knotBOT
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static meteor
I had a bunch of kids on my server months ago crying they were only getting 800 fps instead of 1000
@left swift
foggy elbow
thanks a lot ๐
wide chasm
For a block game like Minecraft? I doubt it tbh.
jagged egret
creo que no
wide chasm
Not that I know.
Well, you'll probably get some performance improvement, but I doubt a lot tbh.
limber knotBOT
use shaders if you want something to do for your GPU
foggy elbow
๐ญ
jagged egret
s h a d e r s
foggy elbow
raytracing also ๐
limber knotBOT
well
not going to use shaders with anything higher than 1.12.2 to be honest
also OptiFine is not even stable in 1.15.2 release
why?
seemed pretty stable last I checked
KennyTV link me a good stable shaders pack for 1.15.2 and I'll show you how bad it performs
I don't even know what's wrong with MC
left swift
JuST ASynC MinECrAFT
limber knotBOT
I still use Sildurs VIrant Shaders v1.20 Extreme
*Vibrant
works since 1.13 afaik, lol
okk I'll try that
golden gust
Yea, sildurs where nice, and kinda k tbqh
limber knotBOT
yeah, it's not too over the top like some others are
ah, apparently v1.27 is the newest
seems pretty normal to me
.seen KennyTV
(kashike) Have you looked in a mirror lately?
KennyTV was last seen playing fortnite with @static badge
oO
wtf has just happened
that's not just wrong, that's a pure evil
lmao
=seen KennyTV
KennyTV was last seen acting all innocent when everybody knows it is true
lies!
eww, 1.27 changes the water
don't listen to the bot!
=seen KennyTV
KennyTV was last seen trying to silence poor, little Korobi
slaps Korobi around a bit with a large trout
:-)
cosmic raft
definitely didn't create a discord bot just to give him an avatar :)
pulsar wigeon
foggy elbow
shaders run well on 1.15.2 with optifine pre-13, no problems for me even on 1440p ๐
limber knotBOT
I still like good old seus
foggy elbow
I got problems with seus :c
limber knotBOT
just crahsed the game switchting between shaders too quickly xD
foggy elbow
I tried the new ptgi e12 but look not good as the old ones
My pc became a place when I activated shaders :c
My neighbors called me I think x)
frail beacon
void void
with shaders?
upper flicker
macos opengl isnt amazing
void void
because osx opengl is capped at 2.1
upper flicker
given you cpu looks like it says amd on it
gonna guess there could be some hackintosh fun in there too
void void
well with minecraft it's capped at 2.1, because osx enforces legacy opengl profile on it
osx opengl implementation does not allow mix-matching new and old apis; others usually do
worn ember
are we flexing frame rates ๐
does the worldborder plugin use the minecraft world border thing?
limber knotBOT
no
limber knotBOT
because the plugin supports more possible shapes
worn ember
wouldve made my life so much easier
well guess if they go out of bounds they'll get teleported anyway
so not my issue
limber knotBOT
I just set the vanilla border to the same as the plugin one ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
worn ember
but meh shape
shadow grove
worn ember
cuz in battlefield most is prebaked
upper flicker
rendering engine in battlefield is also just flat out better
pulsar wigeon
new versions of lwjgl have some vulkan support actually
jagged egret
looks at his 8 gb of ram D:
worn ember
noice
upper flicker
not seeing a lot of good places to hide them in that case
some of it could probably be tied up a bit better, but if the case doesnt give you room, it is what it is
void venture
Just modify your case 
blissful trout
potent finch
limber knotBOT
just get a mini atx case
at least that's what I plan on doing with my mini atx mobo ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
left swift
Just buy a new mobo
left swift
golden gust
that's why I just got a mac
upper flicker
when youre young you have more time and no money
golden gust
or, well, the guy I was doing stuff for a good while ago got my a mac ๐
left swift
Just give ur money to a young person like me then 
rancid crescent
void void
easier said than done
proven stag
Anyone know why nobody else cant join my server? I've port fowarded but none of them are open still.
left swift
Try portbackwarding
proven stag
? @left swift
left swift
cause portforwarding doesn't work
void void
proven stag
Miko I've done the windows firewall. If I'm not correct its Verizon blocking the 25565 ports?
void void
no clue about verizon
proven stag
I don't seem to have accecess to my Verizon IP.
But I can goto my Routers perfectly fine.
proud lance
you open ports on the windows firewall, the router, then you forward them on the router so it knows which NAT internal IP to forward traffic to
ancient bolt
in adulthood I've traded a body that doesn't ache with expendable income and idk if I'm okay with that but shiny things are nice so yeah
proven stag
Yes I've done that. But no port's open./you cant ping me using the port with the ip
proven stag
So I'd have to go on my Verizon IP page? and do this.
proud lance
idk
proven stag
Lets get into dms so we're not spamming.
proud lance
I have verizon and I can open ports on my router
thorny totem
I guess I'm now a devil... https://i.qcfb.ca/20200409164951.png
spare venture
proven stag
I have my own router to. Just I don't have access to the Verizon one. I forgot the password lol
The router I used to port foward was a R6200
left swift
I have been using zgc
limber knotBOT
nice
granite salmon
I tried using zgc it increased startup time by 20 seconds ๐ค
granite salmon
Perhaps, but it didnโt seem to perform that well live either, timings told me to use aikar flags instead, but then again I was using Java 11
golden gust
defo wanna be on latest if you're using ZGC
proud lance
@proven stag why are you using two routers? Is the verizon one in bridge mode?
livid crown
cosmic raft
@spare venture timings link?
proven stag
I have no idea.
proud lance
then sort out your network
proven stag
If I type my public IP the verizon Shows.
proud lance
that has nothing to do with anything
granite salmon
I should probably upgrade to 13
cosmic raft
interesting
proud lance
if you dont even have access to your network hardware or dont know how your network is configured, then there isn't a point to going further with this
granite salmon
Lol
limber knotBOT
I mean, there has been some really anti-forks talk in here recently ๐
ancient bolt
that's rather unfortunate
upper flicker
dont ask for help with it or submit logs about it and youre fine
ancient bolt
yeah this isn't an area for support for forks obviously
not the same thing as discussion of forks though
limber knotBOT
just dont yell at ppl to use fork X instead all the time
void void
clear trout
static meteor
wHy iS tHiS nOt RuNnInG aT 90OfPs!!1?!1!ร?
Yes, i did but i set it back to normal because for my purposes i dont need an all-core boost all the time and the stock logic of amd is very power/heat efficient meaning it boosts the cores it can/need.
Only if i want maximum performance for example on some poorly optimized games i set the clock speeds higher. 3.6gigs are fine for everyday usage.
static meteor
Best thing is that cores are send to sleep when not needed.
worn ember
I'll send you to sleep when ur no longer needed
static meteor
wtf
slim nymph
darks just being an edgelord ignore em
limber knotBOT
I dont get UV mapping :/
ancient bolt
lol aikar remember dart?
hollow storm
static meteor
Anyways, since i don't have any purpose here i will leave now. Thanks for everything and good luck being a thing, everyone โจ
worn ember
I'm not edgy :(
ashen cliff
But you are Dark.
limber knotBOT
wow wow wow, I finally see textures https://i.imgur.com/AuU9bJO.jpg
ashen cliff
All of them at once.
static badge
you might have goofed it up a bit
limber knotBOT
hey, all is better then none!
ashen cliff
True.
left swift
That looks how your foot feels after you've been sitting on it for an hour
hollow storm
Hello ๐
limber knotBOT
I mean, and it shows that my texture atlas is working
hollow storm
sorry, thank you sam ๐
left swift
Ready to ship for production nice work mini
jagged egret
so uhhhh
on my desktop I just opened Minecraft and was playing and then it froze up completely to the point where I had to hold the power button
now after the boot screen it's just a black screen with a blinking cursor?
oh I can use ctrl+alt+f3 to get a command line but that's it, how would I fix the GUI?
void void
you probably can't
worn ember
its done for
void void
if DE is responding to keybinds then you can probably start xkill
e.g on GNOME, alt-f2
KDE too
worn ember
Me in spigot: 
Me in paper: 
jagged egret
no if I press ctrl+alt+f1 it shows the black screen with a blinking cursor. I can still type stuff but nothing happens. Ctrl +alt+f2 goes to a command line I can use
:o a mouse appeared
oh it booted up in potato mode
void void
cli is your best friend in the end
jagged egret
graphics resolution like 800x600 kek
void void
on unix os-es
upper flicker
cmd 
worn ember
mfw
worn ember
olive garden
are you using some statically typed JavaScript engine?
limber knotBOT
its on github already
pulsar wigeon
.g minidigger godotcraft
limber knotBOT
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pulsar wigeon
close enough
granite salmon
Go give him a star
jagged egret
fixed it :D
pulsar wigeon
distributing mc assets 
jagged egret
reinstalled the nvidia drivers lol
do I know why that fixed it? no
do i care? also no because this desktop has nothing important lol
jagged egret
hm?
worn ember
lul
void void
nvidia, also known as novideo
jagged egret
ewg
left swift
worn ember
35 USD lul
void void
nether gen separate paid plogen
jagged egret
for the amount of content it has that's not a bad price
worn ember
tru
pulsar wigeon
you know what's free? biomes o plenty 
void void
does bop run on paper
pulsar wigeon
they didn't
worn ember
it didnt
pulsar wigeon
ewg got grandfathered
worn ember
its from before
pulsar wigeon
20
worn ember
20 i think
olive garden
lol wat
worn ember
its released in 2015 so its from before that rule
pulsar wigeon
no
jagged egret
how can I prevent players from generating chunks outside a certain boundary
(dynamic for each player)
or is that not possible
limber knotBOT
don't let them go there
jagged egret
their render distance will extend outside the boundary
jagged egret
the server's will extend outside the boundary
pulsar wigeon
ok, so make the boundary that much smaller
granite salmon
ewg
pulsar wigeon
otherwise glhf make a custom world gen that voids chunks beyond that point or whatever
limber knotBOT
wiz sure is a wizard
pulsar wigeon
can do this the easy way or the hard way
dapper nacelle
when I make a request via axios to my an api endpoint is it possible that my client receives a HttpOnly cookie from the endpoint?
if not I will have to implement JWT
void void
not enough information
dapper nacelle
/**
* @Route("login", name="login", methods={"POST"})
*/
public function login(IriConverterInterface $iriConverter): Response
{
if (!$this->isGranted('IS_AUTHENTICATED_FULLY')) {
return $this->json([
'error' => 'Invalid login request: check that the Content-Type header is "application/json".'
], 400);
}
return new Response(null, Response::HTTP_NO_CONTENT, [
'Location' => $iriConverter->getIriFromItem($this->getUser())
]);
}
via axios I make a request to an endpoint that is on a seperate server then where my frontend is hosted on
axios.post('/login', {
email: 'dylan@mail.com',
password: 'password',
}).then((response) => {
console.log(response);
}).catch((error) => {
if (error.response.data.error) {
console.log(error.response.data.error);
} else {
console.log('Unknown error');
}
});
it does respond with a cookie
but the cookie isn't stored
oh there is an interesting cookie I overlooked
credentials: 'same-origin',
pulsar wigeon
do you smell hawaiian pizza
limber knotBOT
bruh you live in a pizzeria?
dapper nacelle
yes that is Symfony
granite salmon
oo we nearing 2k closed issues
limber knotBOT
can somebody who is less drunk than I am tell me how I need to shift my vertices so that the cube is rotated 90ยฐ? https://hasteb.in/bakayavi.css
stiff yarrow
based Jetbrains
limber knotBOT
the first 3 vertices from the upper trig, the other 3 the lower trig
static badge
the what
limber knotBOT
stiff yarrow
we are not worthy of the updates Jetbrains blesses us with
static badge
looks fine?
static badge
what should I expect to see
rough swift
static badge
1, 0
0, 0
0, 1
then
1, 1
0, 1
err
1, 0
0, 1
1, 1
see if that works
static badge
show it
limber knotBOT
jagged egret
how are the people in the ISS quarentining?
limber knotBOT
not sure if kidding or not
jagged egret
:P
warm robin
limber knotBOT
flipped the normals, arrow still not pointing up :D
its mirrowed here now https://i.imgur.com/fmetJPe.png
limber knotBOT
hold on
static badge
0, 0
limber knotBOT
I think I got it
vestal jasper
1,1 1,1 1,1
jagged egret
1,1 0,0 potato,X
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1, 0
vestal jasper
Leaf u can hit shift+enter
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vic you're a brainlet
vestal jasper
Or is irc too pepega for cr/lf
limber knotBOT
on the UV, on the points, both?
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limber knotBOT
thank you
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your code is fucked up somewhere then
limber knotBOT
believe me, I am more graphically retarted, I just learned this today
UV are the texture coordinates
jagged egret
is there a website that defines like "chunk decorations"
void venture
Why does it feel like they're four times bigger tho
jagged egret
perspective and FOV differences
worn ember
cuz mini small
jagged egret
i mean his name is mini digger
worn ember
was it you or jacob that tried making a client before?
i dont remember
probably both tbh
limber knotBOT
I kinda want to know where the lines on the edges come from tho :/ https://i.imgur.com/rT1O0OK.png
I wrote a client before, just no graphics, just chat
worn ember
woeful remnant
foggy elbow
lmao I just bought a
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411621057892581376/697958221851262996/mad-catz-strike-7-modular-gaming-keyboard-review-7.png
I don't know why
but now I own this โฌ๏ธ ๐
plucky shard
ivory moss
void venture
It looks uncomfortable
unreal quarry
Indeed. The wrist supports are usually the first thing I throw away when buying a new kb. That one looks like those are it's main feature :3
blazing nebula
https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360034753932-Minecraft-Commercial-Use
This was posted today, almost every server violates this- you could get almost any server taken down now
pulsar wigeon
no it wasn't
it was posted years ago
that particular page you're looking at is as old, it was just last "updated" today for some reason (the text hasn't changed, you can check web.archive.org if you want)
blazing nebula
There are major servers with 500+ online players in super blatant violation
pale lodge
Oh my
pulsar wigeon
report them
blazing nebula
I wonder if that'll actually do anything, worth a shot
pulsar wigeon
blazing nebula
ima bout to ruin some guys whole career literally
sage bobcat
unreal quarry
They try to enforce it. But sadly it's easily bypassable
void void
well report them if it really makes you happy somehow 
worn ember
mikropp
worn ember
having a blast writing shitty code, wbu?
void void
rewrote go codebase into clojure in 2hrs
shell vine
xsolla payment gateway is not supporting stores that violate now
unreal quarry
I sell /fly on my server. It's EULA compliant, too. Fight me.
pulsar wigeon
sure, as long as everyone gets it
shell vine
i bypass the blacklist and ignore the eula fight me
pulsar wigeon
server-wide x hour /fly
unreal quarry
^ yup
pulsar wigeon
i mean, it's not ideal
but neither are people preying on kids using mommy's credit card and all that shit
shell vine
its a store, if they buy it its up to the consumer
stores prey on kids with rows of candy at the checkout
pulsar wigeon
yea hopefully next time mojang does a pass on all the stuff they also fix a bunch of holes there
having to use a custom client is generally enough of a deterrent for most things i guess
shell vine
hopefully not
shell vine
thats like ur opinion
pulsar wigeon
i mean, clearly mojang's too
queen rapids
i care about you phanatic
shell vine
ty
pulsar wigeon
since you got blacklisted
queen rapids
dont let wiz bring u down
unreal quarry
Fwiw, don't need a custom client to bypass. Last I heard server just needs rolling srv records to trick mojangs blacklist
pulsar wigeon
yea i know
which is why i said "hopefully...they fix a bunch of holes there"
not really
shell vine
also i did comply, but didnt make enough money and then they changed everything that i had spent time coding to comply
so was just like fuck it
pulsar wigeon
right, but the client could easily check the target server
it just doesn't atm
barty
you are entirely missing the point
i know it's easy to bypass now
k
viral hornet
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Paper 1.16 server : admincraft - 3 comments, 1 point - rad_radish__, 7h ago
queen rapids
unreal quarry
Microsoft just needs to send Mojang a few of their lawyers. Could put a stop to it real fast, imho
pulsar wigeon
and then you have your voting loot crates
where you give full enchanted diamond armor
runs
kek
unreal quarry
I just do server wide perks. My goal is to simply sell enough to cover the dedi cost, which most of the time comes close
One time we got like 5x more than the cost, so we just sat on it and used it in the next few months to cover what those months didnt
shell vine
i feed my starving family of 12
shell vine
yea i barely encourage voiting
shell vine
they do if ur front page, thats why its not worth it unless you can be
fallen oracle
You could always run tests Billy to see which site most the players come from.
unreal quarry
How do you know, though? Without asking them..
fallen oracle
Make a different srv join record for each site. Log the hostname used on join.
shell vine
ah
unreal quarry
Hmmm. That's smart, glare
fallen oracle
Like mcsl.domain.tld for Minecraft server list or whatever
fallen oracle
I remember the days of voting for phanticmc in middle school and then everyone complaining they couldn't vote because we were all under the same ip
shell vine
yea
blazing nebula
Whatโs a rolling srv record
fallen oracle
It's how people avoid the blacklist
queen rapids
"whats a rolling srv record" - mojang probably
cosmic raft
lmao
shell vine
LOL
cosmic raft
wtf is all that chat colour puke
blazing nebula
Servers that use more than 3 colors in one chat message ๐คข
shell vine
ive seen worse
blazing nebula
Itโs okay but im weird and like it even more bland
blazing nebula
The white is also a bit overwhelming, light gray is best chatcolor itโs just a fact
Wait how do you even do animated symbols, donโt they have to be unicode?
What the fuck you can put javascript into chat?
shell vine
imma tempmute that 5567 btw he was being a ass to everyone
latent valve
lel
blazing nebula
Ima look into that, sounds cool
slim nymph
https://i.imgur.com/ENihax9.png mines cleaner ๐
slim nymph
more reason to support ๐
fallen oracle
Why are they in different C
slim nymph
different servers
blazing nebula
Iโm a huge supporter of light gray chatcolor for chat though, only thing Iโd personally change
slim nymph
its cross server chat
slim nymph
we dont allow custom prefixes yet, but Empires is coming soon (think clans/factions but Aikar quality code), which will let you have 4 letter TAG's
blazing nebula
When the actual message has to be on a second line every time you type
fallen oracle
So are your empires synced cross servers?
slim nymph
I almost live streamed all of Empires development lol, but chicken helped work on it some so that parts not live
yes, Groups are a temporary session per-server, Empires are perma clan registration you can be in multiple but one "primary" per server
blazing nebula
Is your twitch same as discord? Or do you stream on YouTube
fallen oracle
Interesting
blazing nebula
Gotcha
slim nymph
they have nicer community interaction features, and support the new protocol WebRTC for low latency streaming, you know how streams usually can get minutes behind the streamers actual screen? Mixer solves that for most part
they call it FTL
slim nymph
I use to split stream to 4 platforms, but got tired of the stream lag
cosmic raft
how are you at the limit with that little information
blazing nebula
Is it Bukkits limit or Minecraftโs limit?
cosmic raft
I can send much more complex messages than that
lol
oh you're using that heaping pile of shit
i don't feel sorry for you all of a sudden
slim nymph
your own code
we imported some lib someone wrote ages ago as a plugin called Fanciful before bungee was a thing inspigot
fallen oracle
TIL there's a limit to message size
slim nymph
and put a simple wrapper over it
fallen oracle
I REMEMBR THAT
slim nymph
we still use it, its part of our fork
fallen oracle
DeluxeChat still uses that iirc
Thanks for the suggestion that gets suggested daily for the past 2 years
Im sure clip will do it whenever he wants to
slim nymph
emc has so much slegacy stuff because we had it before official api's existed and it sucks to migrate working code
fallen oracle
Mhmm
slim nymph
like our meta api..... yeah i dont care spigot has one now, well stay on ours lol
no way in hell i can justify moving that data
fallen oracle
Aikar, how do you have empires global? Do you just sync changes through bungee message channels?
slim nymph
and our item stack meta is absolutely horrible, but again, too much work to move it
nope, its super ghetto lol
blazing nebula
I HATE spigots item api
slim nymph
we have a "run command on server" db table. chat injects a command to run a command on every server with the chat message lol
though not sure if we got empires special filtering handled yet since empires isnt live, but trivial work
just send empirechat command, with an empireid, sender, message
fallen oracle
Okay because I've been asked to sync my stuff across multiple servers but the thing is that I load all the data in on startup as a cache so I don't really know how I can change that to live-time constantly update everything.
blazing nebula
What even is empire craft Iโve never checked it out
slim nymph
enhanced survival, economy, plots
but the survival stuff is optional, can opt out of it
for those who struggle with vanilla mc lol
fallen oracle
Wasn't referring to chat btw Aikar I meant the empires as a whole, I assume you have a command to see the empire you're in so how do you update that real time across all, is that via what you just explained?
blazing nebula
Hm sounds interesting
slim nymph
our server is heavily based on the db
left swift
enhanced how
ancient bolt
Aikar gets a semi anytime you bring up his db
fallen oracle
Yeah but do you not hold data inside memeory? Is it all straight DB calls?
fallen oracle
Hmm okay
blazing nebula
For me it depends on how important action is
slim nymph
most queries are off main, but getting an EmpireUser object for an uncached user can trigger on main, but our db shit is so optimized, queries can be <1ms
fallen oracle
Yeah I think the vision for my project to sync across multiple servers is little to none. I didn't implement databases properly because I wasn't good with SQL so it's just a mess.
slim nymph
all our racks are in same dc, and my host even put my game server racks close as they could to the db rack lol
blazing nebula
I use MongoDB
fallen oracle
Yeah, I'd love to be able to allow that work sometime
I get asked for cross server sync support all the time
Just gotta say nope sorry
blazing nebula
Do you have a lot of cross server interactions though?
blazing nebula
I meant Glare, because if thereโs not, thereโs no need to worry about database calls unless itโs something triggered from another server
slim nymph
as well as mail, lets you send items to players, cross server
fallen oracle
I mean I'd love to be able to allow that
slim nymph
stables are stored in db, lets you move horses cross server
blazing nebula
Awww thatโs cute, thereโs horses and stables?
fallen oracle
That's the end goal I'd love sometime
ancient bolt
Aikar also built out all of his server admin stuff into web UIs
he has web UIs for his web UIs
slim nymph
can summon your steed out in the wild
lol
our db is critical, server breaks w/o it
you cant even be logged into 2 servers at saem time
blazing nebula
I wanna make web UIs for my shit but idk how do my staff gotta work off a discord bot for out of game utility
slim nymph
so for bungee, I have to actually disconnect from current and wait before connecting to next to let it fully disconnect and finalize the DB
fallen oracle
The only difference is that I only load the data from the database on startup and then I save it from time to time, that way I don't have to do a ton of DB calls
slim nymph
oh i def write anything urgent immediately async, but we also have a method to flush all pending async queries too
so i can block disconnect until thats done
fallen oracle
Yeah, it just sucks cause I wrote this all when I didn't know too much of data handling and stuff, and I can't easily just go and change this all without chancing I break something for someone
Aikar benefit is that it's only for his server so he can make any changes he needs
blazing nebula
I rewrote the core of my server 8 times when I was starting as I kept feeling ashamed of my old code
fallen oracle
See if I was doing this all just for me, I'd wipe it all and start over, but I've had this project public for like 4 years now
blazing nebula
Well 3 of those times I didnโt get very far and were mainly based off loss of motivation
slim nymph
we have all the metas too. entity meta = temp/perm, per entity storage. Empire Meta = cross-server storage.
no, just mc
blazing nebula
How do you save entities? Custom serialization?
slim nymph
I tacked on meta into an nbt node, you can do this with spigot/paper now in 1.14+, PersistentDataContainer
entity.getPersistentDataContainer()
fallen oracle
I'm ashamed of how I handle databases ๐๐
blazing nebula
Doesnt persistentdatacontainer just handle custom nbt and not vanilla stuff?
latent fox
blazing nebula
So do you just save custom nbt?
Btw why is that, itโd be so nice to have built in API for nbt
fallen oracle
Lmao. I'd offer to pay Aikar to take a look at my stuff and make suggestions but he's expensive, and busy. I also know that I need to learn how to do it myself if I want to get anywhere for the future like a job ๐
blazing nebula
All my work has been for future job
slim nymph
blazing nebula
Working on a big server I like is actually my dream job & passion
shell vine
๐ฌ
blazing nebula
I see, do you know why spigot prevent you from accessing internal nbt, itโs kinda annoying I gotta tap into nms for it
1k+
slim nymph
dont rely on impl details
nbt changes. like uuids are breaking in 1.16, so every nbt code dealing with setting uuids to nbt will be broken
i hope they make .getUUID check old format instead of fucking trying to DFU that shit
because holy fuck will they end up missing some, and custom tags
blazing nebula
What is dfu
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://github.com/Mojang/DataFixerUpper -- Mojang/DataFixerUpper: A set of utilities designed for ......: "DataFixerUpper Latest release License. A set of utilities designed for incremental building, merging, and optimization of data transformations...."
blazing nebula
Yikes it sounds bad just from description
slim nymph
replae "a set of utilities" with "climate destroying code that focuses on using as much server energy it can to complete simple data transformations while being too complicated to ever understand"
thats an under statement
blazing nebula
Why is mojang so bad at optimization
slim nymph
not only did they over complicate it, they made it more fragile, less correct
plenty of incorrect/missing transformations
slim nymph
im serious i believe dfu is slower than worldgen
pulsar wigeon
majority of dfu stuff doesn't run enough to make a perf difference
like, outside of 1.12 -> 1.13 forceupgrading
and chunk loading is async here anyway
so you don't really run into the fact that it's unperformant as hell
slim nymph
well yeah i have 1.3, 1.5, 1.7, 1.8, 1.9, 1.10 all going to 1.15 lol
blazing nebula
Chunk loading sync in 1.16 right?
blazing nebula
Me or aikar
cosmic raft
who wants to learn DFU?
slim nymph
thankfully my strategy worked by stripping DFU pre 1.13 and we was able to successfully convert old chunks w/o issue
cosmic raft
Point-free Program Transformation: https://haslab.uminho.pt/alcino/files/pfpt.pdf
The essence of strategic programming: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/8643/73ffcee27467876b1030ee347b3c2e625756.pdf
Algebraic Specialization of Generic Functions for Recursive Types: https://haslab.uminho.pt/alcino/files/msfp08.pdf
Generic Programming with Fixed Points for Mutually Recursive Datatypes: http://users.eecs.northwestern.edu/~clk800/rand-test-study/_gpwfpfmrd/gpwfpfmrd-2009-10-8-12-02-00.pdf
A Formal Comparison of Approaches to Datatype-Generic Programming: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1202.2920.pdf
Profunctor Optics: Modular Data Accessors: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.10857.pdf
Generic Point-free Lenses: https://haslab.uminho.pt/alcino/files/mpc10.pdf
Type-safe Two-level Data Transformation: http://www4.di.uminho.pt/~joost/publications/TypesafeTwolevelDataTransformation.pdf
Transformation of structure-shy programs with application to XPath queries and strategic functions https://haslab.uminho.pt/alcino/files/scp.pdf
Calculating with Lenses: Optimising Bidirectional Transformations: https://haslab.uminho.pt/alcino/files/pepm11.pdf
get reading
blazing nebula
Oh boy
slim nymph
thankfully most active chunks are now converted, first weeks of 1.15 was super rough for us
pulsar wigeon
pRoFuNcToR oPtIcS
blazing nebula
Minecraft chunk size be like: bruh
slim nymph
i should probably cull anything not accessed in past few years
ancient bolt
then someone comes back and cries their build disappeared
aikar does too iirc. He just has a lot of worlds
blazing nebula
You could also make a custom world saving format
slim nymph
our primary "Frontier" world doesnt have a real border
its like 3 million?
just so we can guarantee we can expand to new outposts w/o worries of someone actually being out there: P
but we have to keep the damn FP precision bug in mind
blazing nebula
^^
slim nymph
once you start getting into large x/z, game starts breaking hard core
ancient bolt
it's actually kinda cool how it breaks
slim nymph
you start losing precision on floating point numbers
blazing nebula
Oh Iโve heard of that actually