general

[pulsar wigeon]

yea just ignore that stuff

[arctic cargo]

Thank's ❤

[void void]

async worldedit is what i should use to copy paste massive amounts of blocks right

[pulsar wigeon]

if you want it to take forever

[latent valve]

damn

[green edge]

it's going to get worse

don't worry

[worn ember]

thank god you got guns right

[latent valve]

:c nah it ilegal in sweden lel

[cosmic raft]

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

if anyone is curious where that number came from

[latent valve]

started in china

[worn ember]

53k death

[jagged egret]

does anyone know how to go from global palette ID -> block data and back again?

[pulsar wigeon]

Block.byId[int] or whatever

forget what spigot calls it

it's just a static array on block tho

[worn ember]

lts starting to take of in africa too

[jagged egret]

wiz is that the bukkit block or? i'm not seeing it

[pulsar wigeon]

why the fuck would nms internals be on a bukkit api class

o-o

[latent valve]

atleast nothing in north n south pole lol

[jagged egret]

i'm not seeing it on the nms block either tho

[pulsar wigeon]

oh yea, getCombinedId

[potent warren]

@latent valve just like in Minecraft, I feel like the millionth user should get a cape

[static badge]

yeah I think china is full of shit

[merry talon]

thats new

[magic ice]

Russia tho

[wild ridge]

@everyone

Is spigot down

[magic ice]

haha nice try lol

[slim nymph]

is your name stupid

[pulsar wigeon]

imagine trying to ping everyone to ask about something unrelated to paper

[slim nymph]

lol ok @true canyon that was pretty good

[true canyon]

Thanks! 😄

[magic ice]

hehe

[upper flicker]

Oh no what is mbax doing now 👀

I don’t know if you heard, but earlier he took down GitHub

[pulsar wigeon]

it's true.

[true canyon]

wizjany 4 spigotdiscord mod

[pulsar wigeon]

https://i.imgur.com/cDhYCgB.png apparently we're responsible guys

we're ddosing spigot now

[fallen oracle]

Saw that.

[true canyon]

typical paper kid wizjany up to no good

[latent valve]

ping spigotmc.org -t

[void void]

who is ddosing spigotmc

im tryna log in here

[latent valve]

🤷‍♀️

[magic ice]

I mean

He’s not wrong

[worn ember]

he never said it tho

[void void]

it stands for freakin awesome

[pulsar wigeon]

lmao, view blames paper and now spigot ppl coming here

[void void]

lol

Spigot's discord is full of literal fucking children.

Like, breaking Discord ToS type of children.

[ancient bolt]

look I don't like spigot as much as the next guy but let's try to keep the generalizations down to a minimum

[void void]

Just got this email: https://reeee.ee/Q1J6ar.png

"generalizations"? I don't mind Spigot. It's Spigot's community that's the problem. You say that like saying they're children is some sort of social issue comparable to racism or sexism?

Whatever, sure

[pulsar wigeon]

what generalizations

[void void]

That's my question

[pulsar wigeon]

saying there's a lot of people under 13 isn't a generalization

(to be clear, no idea if it's true or false, just saying it's not a generalization)

[merry talon]

i've seen a few literal 7 year olds

[ancient bolt]

ugh w/e

not the point

[merry talon]

in some ways they aren't as bad though because you can understand that they just don't have the mental capacity

[pulsar wigeon]

what is the point then

[void void]

not sure what the point was

[limber knot]

"spigot bad paper better reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

[ancient bolt]

the point was to just not be such a dick

yeah that ^

[void void]

about them hosting kids that are under 13? is that a dick move?

my bad

[worn ember]

Are you questioning my sexuality?

[void void]

im always questioning your sexuality dark

[worn ember]

Oof

[ancient bolt]

spigot folks hear about paper then they come over here and see people shitting all over the place they just came from, it's gonna push a lot of people away

[void void]

righto

[worn ember]

Not if it's with facts

[void void]

the point is, dark, factual or not. we can't speak about it

the rule has been laid down

martial law style

[worn ember]

I'll fight Martial. He has no power over me

[void void]

fuck you Marshall

[worn ember]

Marshall doesn't matters

[void void]

Marshall Mathers?

[worn ember]

Yes

[void void]

https://tenor.com/view/buddy-yeah-buddy-yeah-eminem-yep-gif-5705275

[worn ember]

🐐

[nocturne halo]

How many players can this jar hold?

[pulsar wigeon]

why are you putting players in a jar

don't most people put like...idk, cookies or so in jars?

have you asked the players if they want to be in a jar?

[true canyon]

Are they alive?

[warm mesa]

Wizzy, I heard you were talking about me yesterday.

❤️

[void void]

are there actually people that think the amount of players you can hold depends on the jar you use

[warm mesa]

How big is the jar? Is it a jelly jar or a people sized jar? 😜

[pulsar wigeon]

i heard

[ember crag]

I will finally be able to check off something from the honey do list. Surface prep.

And this is what it looks like after the paint. This is layer 1 of 2. Going to finish this area tomorrow. The larger areas of plaster in the above photo are the aftermath of plumbing repairs right after we bought the house.

[slim nymph]

@nocturne halo well, out of some of my largest player.dat files, 10k~ seems to be a good average for the large ones.
A fully compiled patched jar not including the distribution mechanism is 49M.

So if we're going to go by players in a jar which is a weird metric, can fit about 5000.

If you meant to ask how many average players wil lthis allow me to run for X game type, going to need to specify game type, but every server will vary based on what you allow your players to do. If you are strict and tell them no a lot, limit potentials are higher.

But summary is, more than Spigot by far 🙂

also comes with the benefit of a better API, more bugs fixed, easier to download, mostly saner community.

[nocturne halo]

@slim nymph so for a prison server on 1.15

how many do you think

[slim nymph]

no entities them, just players moving around pvp'ing in a contained area?

[worn ember]

3.333333

[slim nymph]

and im not gonna be able to say 'numbers', but more of whats the load impact of style of gameplay. no entitites will always do very well, as entities and tile entities are the biggest lag creators

some run 100 player creative servers with worldedit... so id imagine a prison style is going to at least that.

and players being in a close area with lots of overlapping chunks will keep chunk count down.

[nocturne halo]

@slim nymph Mining, pvp, many mobs (Like bosses)

[slim nymph]

ok so survival = mobs = where performance can tank. if its purely standard combat mobs, Activation Range will help a good bit as long as players aren't fighting.

[ember crag]

Also depends heavily on hardware.

No jar will change your hardware.

[slim nymph]

well yeah that too

[ember crag]

I recommend nvme ssd for storage unless you use a ramdisk.

[slim nymph]

but if you wanna compare paper vs spigot on same hardware, paper does have lots of improvements to entities to improve performance and fix bugs... (ok and create some until we figure them out)

i cant believe people use ramdisks lol

[ember crag]

Downside to the ramdisk method is moving short term storage to long term storage frequently enough to not lose progress if the server needs to stop suddenly.

[slim nymph]

yeah that just delays work to later

and has concerns over if data is being written atm

[green edge]

Ramdisks dont provide any practical advantage imo

[slim nymph]

my worlds 100-140GB so yeah no

[merry talon]

just get a mac pro

[green edge]

Best solution is SSD

And multiple server instances

[slim nymph]

also your system would need a significant amount of ram to hold any decent size world, so if your systems beefy enough to hold an entire world in memory, why arent you using an SSD

[warm mesa]

SSD's are for squares. I store all my data in the cloud for my corporate overloads to view.

[green edge]

Aikar, since the chunk loading is done async, would anything else except chunk load/unload speed be affected if for example you decide to keep the world files remote?

[jagged egret]

oooof

y'all weren't kidding about the chunk packet

[lavish canyon]

help

now

in nned

i need

help

plz

now

plz

how do i download 1.8.8 server

tell now

[merry talon]

the day to be an absolute joke was yesterday friend

[ancient bolt]

lol he's gone, he got kicked twice

[jagged egret]

so i made a class to read the chunk packet aaand nothing works lol

idek where to start debugging it XD

[knotty nebula]

tell now
Now I understand why wiz kicked him lmao

[cosmic raft]

bleh

trying to find a nice mechanical keyboard is hard

[ancient bolt]

daskeyboard and ducky are the only 2 brands I'll consider anymore

[pulsar wigeon]

das?

[cosmic raft]

ducky?

[ancient bolt]

ducky is similar quality to das but more flashy, if that's what you're in to

https://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/Keyboards

[cosmic raft]

daskeyboard's design is meh

[ancient bolt]

das is very high quality, but subdued

which I prefer, hence why I use daskeyboards

ducky's current flagship is the One 2 Series

I'll probably get one of those at some point

[pulsar wigeon]

the only LEDs on my dell sk8115 are the num/caps/scroll lock indicators ❤️

[void void]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/aggressive-animals-➤-animals-take-revenge-1-8-1-15.76716/updates

ok this is epic

[cosmic raft]

hmm

[void void]

is it though

[cosmic raft]

black or white keyboard @ancient bolt

[pulsar wigeon]

le epic gem!!!

[ancient bolt]

I have only used black

holy shit das has RGB keybaords now

how the great have fallen amirite

this is what I use https://www.daskeyboard.com/p/prime13-mechanical-keyboard/

[cosmic raft]

my only issue with daskeyboard

is they all have that little "wing" on them

and/or a knob of some kind

[ancient bolt]

if you want to flex on people then you can buy this one https://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4-ultimate/

I couldn't use it, I'm not hardcore enough

[cosmic raft]

well

this is useless

[ancient bolt]

I lke that the prime 13 doesn't have the knob, but I got https://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4-professional-for-mac/ for work and turns out I don't mind the knob so, meh

[cosmic raft]

you can't buy on ducky's website?

[ancient bolt]

yeah they are annoyingly hard to buy

only reason I haven't bought one yet is because they are hard to find

[cosmic raft]

https://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/Ducky-One2-RGB-TKL

This is nice

[ancient bolt]

they have so many different varieties and when retailers have them in stock it's just a dice roll which one they'll actually have

idk the correct way to buy them tbh lol

and yeah I agree

[merry talon]

I've heard good things about wooting boards too

[pulsar wigeon]

lctrl looks a bit small there

and no numpad

that's a compact keyboard

[ancient bolt]

TKL literally stands for Ten-KeyLess

[cosmic raft]

that's the idea of TKL wiz

[pulsar wigeon]

oic

did not read name

[cosmic raft]

I never use the numpad

so good riddance

[pulsar wigeon]

page was taking too long to load so i just opened image

[ancient bolt]

I use it enough to keep it unfortunately

but sometimes I think it's not worth it

[pulsar wigeon]

i maintain that the ctrl key looks a bit small tho

[ancient bolt]

idk, I think I would cope fine without it

[cosmic raft]

yikes

[pulsar wigeon]

maybe i'm just used to having a larger one tho

[cosmic raft]

$230 CAD for that Ducky keyboard

[pulsar wigeon]

lel

[merry talon]

https://wooting.io/wootingone

[pulsar wigeon]

just go to /r/mechanicalkeyboards so you can feel better about yourself

til you buy 10 more

[ancient bolt]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4284

[cosmic raft]

@merry talon too bad language layout is only ANSI-US

[ancient bolt]

125 USD, about what I would expect

idk how that translates to CAD

[cosmic raft]

177 cad

[merry talon]

wat

what layout do you need

[cosmic raft]

I wonder....

@merry talon https://www.wasdkeyboards.com/m-power-by-skeletor-104-key-v3-custom-mechanical-keyboard-1.html

[ancient bolt]

oh god

why

[merry talon]

wtf is this

[cosmic raft]

your new keyboard

[merry talon]

no thanks

[void void]

holy fuck

[merry talon]

why is this a whole keyboard not just keycaps

[ancient bolt]

look if you need all that shit on the keyboard to tell you how to use vim you probably shouldn't be using vim

[limber knot]

s/look if you need all that shit on the keyboard to tell you how to use vim /

Correction, <DiscordBot> <10D​em​on​Wa​v> ****you probably shouldn't be using vim

[cosmic raft]

god damnit

the keyboard I want doesn't ship to Canada

[ancient bolt]

the plite of being canadian 😦

[cosmic raft]

doesn't ship to the US either

only within EU

[ancient bolt]

oof

okay im going to go off and watch shit and go to sleep or something idk

guess I should watch the last episode of picard

[cosmic raft]

omg yes

go watch it

[slim nymph]

I introduce yall to fred, your supreme overlord:

[shell vine]

[slim nymph]

I had him pop up on my website for 2 seconds for the 1st lol

my community named him fred

Destroyer of Worlds

[jagged egret]

does anyone know a good video that explains 1.15 and 1.16? especially the technical aspects?

[magic ice]

slicedlime's videos over them are pretty decent

[cold pumice]

Fred shall rule all

[distant turret]

lol since when are you here moople

[tall smelt]

No fred here

[cold pumice]

Since today

[tall smelt]

[distant turret]

oh xD

:fred:

[cold pumice]

y'all have bees

[distant turret]

😦

[cold pumice]

^ Fred for you

[distant turret]

ty ❤️

[slim nymph]

oh man an animated fred that is full transparent then pops in would have been good too lol

wait this is paper, my peoples flooded here haha

[cold pumice]

It's not just Fred coming to take over 😉

Animated Fred sounds epic though

[distant turret]

im not sure 2 of us is a flood lol

[slim nymph]

when i look at majority of window being EMC people....

[void void]

oh my god 🤤 stackoverflow dark mode

wtf

for context it's 10:47pm here. my brother just calls me after having not answered my texts all day

"i just woke up"

imagine

[left swift]

Just like u

[void void]

nah my max is 5pm

[high niche]

moar emc takeovers.

[analog coral]

Hello I Need Some Free Host

[left swift]

[merry talon]

my ideal VR setup is going to cost $1740 before tax

good lord

not to mention the PC upgrades

[cosmic raft]

@merry talon send that to me instead

[merry talon]

what's in it for me

[cosmic raft]

I'll send you an autograph on a piece of graph paper

[merry talon]

no thanks

i prefer cardstock

[cosmic raft]

oh lord, wiz

sweepy doesn't understand how much i value graph paper

[merry talon]

oh i do

i just disagree

[ancient bolt]

I have a stack of graph paper next to my bed

if you wanna come over @cosmic raft

[cosmic raft]

on my way

graph paper is my favourite

[merry talon]

do they make notebooks with graph paper?

oh they do

[static badge]

didn't your parents tell you to not take graph paper from strangers

[cosmic raft]

i'll take graph paper from everyone

[slim nymph]

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=c179af9ea7944709925fe8df355f61b9#config I have added something super useful

[merry talon]

I've been kind of into pens recently

[static badge]

tuinity?

[slim nymph]

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=d5280fbb133447c5b659a6e71ff2aed2#timings

[static badge]

holy shit that delay chunkunloads value is way too large

[slim nymph]

that was someones timings from the other day

look at server info box

[static badge]

oh right it was doogie

[ancient bolt]

what is tuinity

everyone keeps saying that word

[static badge]

ay nice

[slim nymph]

leafs broken furry fork

[merry talon]

he doesn't know

[static badge]

furry fork

[ancient bolt]

god I wish I hadn't heard okay

[slim nymph]

lol

[static badge]

god damn it why does everyone call it furry

[ancient bolt]

have u met u

[slim nymph]

all i know is uwu is a furry thing

[static badge]

there's absolutely no qualities in me that anyone could say is furry

[high niche]

looks at your avatar

[merry talon]

uwu is absolutely not a furry thing

[static badge]

[merry talon]

While the exact origin is unknown, it is speculated the first of the emoticon was in chatrooms. The first proven use of uwu is in the Yu-Gi-Oh fanfiction Genie of the Puzzle, published by user DaakuKitsune on Oct 14, 2005. In the fanfiction notes before the story, the author states "Again, feel free to throw squids and fish at me. UwU I deserve it, you know."

[magic ice]

Streamfrost is Streamkit in the first few chapters. Streamkit is first seen running away from RiverClan. She meets Onyx, a black-furred kittypet with aqua green eyes, but quickly runs away from him.

[static badge]

of course the random name I pick is that

[merry talon]

wait what the fuck

I thought that image was just a meme

[static badge]

what fucking chances

[merry talon]

it's on the OFFICIAL WIKI

[static badge]

no it's someone's real thing

[magic ice]

yes

[static badge]

no it's someone's oc

[magic ice]

some fan fic wiki or smthn lmao

[static badge]

"fanfiction" dumbass read

[vestal edge]

bruh

[static badge]

you really think that image is official?

[ancient bolt]

so you're """"""random"""""" name just happens to be a furry icon

[merry talon]

ok well

its on the wiki nevertheless

that font

is a default font in mspaint or something

I've seen it before

[slim nymph]

anyways, GC info is gonna be easier to read on timings now, and can auto detect and recommend flag updates

once new flags are final, i can update it to detect those on my old flags too

[ancient bolt]

timings in 10 years is just going to be a remote, web-based version of yourkit

[slim nymph]

lol

[static badge]

that'd be really fucking useful

[slim nymph]

ive got ideas to contextualize timings to regions, know about parent world context, etc

so we can ditch per-world timings, and each world tick pops a context value

[static badge]

you'll probably have to use a fixed grid for regions

[slim nymph]

yes i plan to align it to the 512 like regions tab

[ancient bolt]

I've meant to do research into zgc for minecraft, because it has the potential to allow significantly higher heaps and massively higher throughput while still keeping max pause times smaller than G1

But of course like all things I haven't gotten to it yet

[slim nymph]

@ancient bolt based on what ive seen so far, way worse

[ancient bolt]

that's odd

[static badge]

does zgc even have tuning flags

[slim nymph]

9ms pause times aren't great if you pause every 1-2s

[ancient bolt]

I don't think it has much in terms of tuning flags, though it may later idk

[slim nymph]

it also introduces read barriers to overall jvm performance, g1 uses write barriers

so considering reads are like 400x more than writes, that concerns me

[static badge]

read barriers are yikes

[ancient bolt]

I remember seeing benchmarks with like 1-2ms pause times with 50GB of heap and stuff like that

I wonder if minecraft is just too much throughput

[slim nymph]

probably, this is unrealistic throughput

[static badge]

mc throughput

[ancient bolt]

minecraft: I need lots of memory and tons of memory throughput
also minecraft: I'm a real-time game server with 20ms tick times

[static badge]

50ms

if you're on 1.12

[ancient bolt]

ugh yeah

[static badge]

1.15? more

[slim nymph]

someone was running zgc the other day and it was burning 9ms collections every 1-2 seconds. vs my new G1 tuned flags 10-50ms every 5-15 or MORE seconds

[golden gust]

I recall reading up on zgc, and it looked interesting in some respects, but seemed more catered towards huge heaps vs the "small" ones that we cram MC into

[ancient bolt]

afaik the best GCs are still proprietary so that's cool

[slim nymph]

if you have a lot of tenured memory, gc will probably be nicer

zgc*

[ancient bolt]

has anyone tested shanendoa(sp?)

[slim nymph]

i was gonna look into other gc's once i had time, but i made such a big breakthrough in G1 i dont see it worth the time

remember that MC is NOT the standard java app, so no gc is going to be default tuned to how mc operates. so lack of tuning options is scary on any gc engine

G1 is love, G1 is life

[golden gust]

mojang counterattacts with streams

[left swift]

[ancient bolt]

I don't think we've found the peak GC, theoretically newer GCs would be able to self-tune and handle higher throughputs with lower pause times etc

and we might get to a point where a standard GC could handle it

[slim nymph]

well, with G1, giving it more memory does reduce cost of GC im finding with the right tuning. my old 40/60 vs 50-70 split I mainly looked at "if someones running this high of a heap, they probably have crappy plugins needing more old"

you know i would love a custom auto tuning for survivor. I essentially am disabling survivor in my newest flags

if g1 could determine what object is being allocated, and its average age, and dynamically set tenuring threshold per object....

would be amazing

[shell vine]

have u ever tried the shenandoah backport

[slim nymph]

no

[ancient bolt]

we just need a machine learning GC

[static badge]

oh god

[ancient bolt]

have a spare GPU sitting around? Use it to tune your real-time GC in minecraft

[shell vine]

im trying it, spark is saying there is occasional sweeps lasting like over a second but im not seeing in game lag during it

[slim nymph]

what i analyzed happening with survivor is that with default tenuring, we spend a long fucking time compacting survior until the memory finally falls into old.

this compacting is what increases pause times

if i could completely disable survivor, might be beneficial. so you either die young, or you sit in old until a mixed gc gets you.

[shell vine]

have you posted anything as what is officially recommended or just testing

[slim nymph]

ive tweaked throughout the today, but getting close. my main concern right now is overflowing survivor since killed its size, seeing occasional to space exhuasted which is caused by overflowing survivor

but if i can disable survivor which i just found out you can do -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=0

might solve that

[slim nymph]

even on the larger 70+ player servers i didnt see survivor used much

but, if you ever do hit those spikes of allocations at the end of a eden window... thats the risk

which i guess is the primary benefit of survivor, to catch those single pass false positives

but what sucks is, when this condition is triggered (survivor overflow), it doesn't just overflow survivor targets, for some damn reason it even promotes the garbage...

that seems like a bug to me

[molten fable]

🤣

[toxic ember]

I have been trying to get this ssh key to work

all fucking day

and am about to jump out a window

I feel very stupid right now

[woven otter]

What's the issue

[toxic ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urQ0McdjqQU&t=319s

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) How to Connect To Linux (CentOs 7) Using SSH Keys (Password free authentication) from Windows - length 7m 27s - 119 likes, 3 dislikes (97.5%) - 9,591 views - Darren's Tech Tutorials on 2017.11.26

[toxic ember]

i am following this guide

[void void]

client's pubkey must be in target's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys

~/.ssh chmod must be 700 & authorized_keys' 600

[toxic ember]

it just keeps saying "ser

[void void]

putty

🤢

[toxic ember]

what else

should I use

havent tried

am new to linux

and ssh

the pub key is in the authorized_key file

i have run these commands

sudo mkdir ~/.ssh
sudo chmod 700 ~/.ssh
sudo vi ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
sudo chown YourUserName:YourUserName ~/.ssh -R
sudo chmod 600 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys

[limber knot]

KennyTV are you here

I'd need to ask you a thing

[fallen oracle]

Viper is that EAP or full release?

[limber knot]

I don't really know. I don't see EAP anywhere tho

yes I am

that's a release candidate iirc

ok KennyTV so i was wondering if UTF-8 characters are fine in your configs or I have to escape them

yes, you can just throw them in there

I was making an italian translation for your mainteniance

is that fine

oh that'd be sexy

do I need to modify something in the code or just providing the language-it.yml is enough?

[fallen oracle]

I'm excited for the full release.

[limber knot]

you can just dm me the file when you're done, I'll fully add it that

then

dm? where

discord, spigot discussion, whatever

even irc 😂

I'll send you the YAML file on discord in a few mins

ITALIAN <3

[void void]

So uh

Professor Leonard is a goddamn boss

And I should've found him earlier

[fallen oracle]

For calc?

[void void]

yes

[golden gust]

"You can do it!"

[fallen oracle]

Does he do calc 2?

[void void]

He does calc 1, 2, and 3

[golden gust]

"you can get that till job! and yes, I'll have fries!"

[void void]

Apparently he has saved thousands of ppl on their calc 2

[fallen oracle]

Oof okay I'ma be hitting him up

[void void]

His YT vids are full lectures

[fallen oracle]

I have an exam in 12 days

[void void]

So, hf

But they're fun to watch tbh

Just took a solid 3 pages of notes from this man

front and back

just looked at my notes before watching prof leonard and compared

my prof literally copies him, and then teaches it magnitudes shittier

would not be surprised if your prof does the same thing @fallen oracle LMAO

do report back

[fallen oracle]

Will do

[cunning badge]

2020.1 is a EAP

Its not fully released yet

[void void]

Hi guys ! I am looking for a plugin or a set of plugins that are used to play Skyblock in the latest possible version, and which is "frendly", I mean, which leads the players to play together, to exchange in order to grow their island. do you know these kind of pluggins ? 😄

[limber knot]

any of the BentoBox addons

[void void]

oh nice, i thougt it was a pretty cool set

any other suggestions ? The less inventory GUI there are, the best i find it 👍

[minor aurora]

.flaps

.flags

[limber knot]

Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs

[left swift]

Flaps

[cold pumice]

Hmm, Professor Leonard? I'll have to watch some of those

[tulip kestrel]

what is Netty Exploits?

[fallen oracle]

For IJ RC / EAP, can you run that and still also run the regular latest release?

[latent valve]

seem like i use aikar flag feel good

😂

[void void]

mfw

fix your fucking font ffs

unreadable

[latent valve]

[peak dirge]

using Windows 10

[latent valve]

yea? i game on window lol

[void void]

win 10 keeps breaking java servers recently

[latent valve]

i dont use it to host my server

dat dum

[void void]

according to that, yes you do

server was run on win 10

[latent valve]

🤦 kek

[worn ember]

fix ur font already

[crisp musk]

anyone know where I can download mcp? The official site is down

looking for mcp940 (1.12.2)

[worn ember]

why do you need MCP?

[crisp musk]

for writing a custom client

site's back online, thanks anyways :)

[trail junco]

any1 know how I can add pixelmon mod? or any mod act xd

[worn ember]

you dont

not with spigot/paper at least

if you want modded with plugins look at Sponge

[slim nymph]

@latent valve that wont work eventually, but ill add a -Dim.a.java.gc.expert=true to disable the red text later too

[jagged egret]

https://hasteb.in/osiyuhuq.java does anyone know why this can't decode a chunk packet :(

[woven otter]

city why aren't you senior dev at hegemony

[limber knot]

Hi, I'm having trouble getting our server resource pack to work.

what issues are you experiencing?

No error message shows up, but whenever I connect using my Minecraft client (Technic launcher) no prompt to install the resource pack appears and the textures are default

I've tried adding the SHA-1 hash as well as using an absolute path to the zip file

My OS is Manjaro Linux

did you reject them before by any chance? if so you need to enabled it in your server list entry settings

I did start up the server without anything in the relevant fields in server.properties. Is that what you mean by rejecting them?

no, I mean the setting in your client's server list entry

but if you don't have a server resource pack defined then it will obviously not send one?

Oh

No, on my client I tried both 'Prompt' and 'Enabled'

And I do have the zip file in server.properties now

well, did you restart? (also you set it to an URL, right?)

I meant I didn't have it before I started it up for the first time

Yes, I restarted. No, I have it as a local file

the client will not load server resource packs from anything but an URL

[jagged egret]

delete server-resource-packs in your .minecraft

also that ^

[limber knot]

completely unrelated, iso

[jagged egret]

o

it been 6 months since i've touched any of this lol

[limber knot]

phoenix616, I see. Thank you.

[golden gust]

Manjaro

isn't that arch for people who can't arch?

runs

[knotty nebula]

new flags work great!

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=2ef90cdfa6d24e05ba0200d6f5853e83

[upper flicker]

yes

[jagged egret]

Z, cat, do you know how the outbound chunk data packet is structured? i followed wiki.vg and either I'm doing it wrong (which is more likely) or wiki.vg is wrong bc I get a bunch of ArrayIndexOutOfBound exceptions :/

[golden gust]

erm...

[golden gust]

Best I've got is source

heck, grab yarn, you'll get to see the packets

[jagged egret]

wdym

[limber knot]

Does anyone know a file host where it's easy to get a direct download link suitable for putting in server.properties?

[upper flicker]

I would just check wiki.vg and the source, I am not particularly familiar with it specifically

[limber knot]

AtomicAtom: if you have a website that isn't behind cloudflare then that. otehrwise you can try minepack.net which was made for server resource pack hosting

ty

[jagged egret]

where can I get source code that isn't obfuscated to all heck

or is that not available lol

[golden gust]

.g fabricmc yarn

[limber knot]

decompile with mojang mappings

[jagged egret]

hace un monton haha

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://github.com/FabricMC/yarn -- FabricMC/yarn: Libre Minecraft mappings, free to use for...: "Yarn is a set of open, unencumbered Minecraft mappings, free for everyone to use under the Creative Commons Zero license. The intention is to let..."

or that, yeah

works now. thank you

[cobalt surge]

Oh no guys cat did a thing again...

[magic ice]

uh oh

[cobalt surge]

pats cats head

runs away

[void void]

Hello

Hello can ayone help me, what is making my server lag, tps got drops suddenly https://timings.aikar.co/?id=258dc344f85a424c8689abd45fad9a04#timings

I have mob stacking plugin installed

[fallen oracle]

#paper-help

[void void]

Ok lol

[cobalt surge]

You gave a ton of villagers

[golden gust]

I need a bot that yells at people for being outdated

[fallen oracle]

Ez

Can timings output a json version given an id?

[golden gust]

yes, the browser pulls json

it's ez, it's just doing it, and getting it added to the dumcord

[cobalt surge]

Cat you did it again

[void void]

@cobalt surge no I have like 20-25 players playing of the server and everyone have like 3-4 villagers for tading average ly

[golden gust]

.wa 20*3

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Result: 60 - https://is.gd/iaWdTR

[void void]

What

[golden gust]

For an entity which is a bitch for performance, that's not a good # of them

[latent valve]

cat wtf it 20*3

bruh

[ashen cliff]

0 is the best.

[void void]

But how will i provide village trading to people

I can't just disable them

[ashen cliff]

SAML 2.0.0.

[void void]

What

[ashen cliff]

Simple Anti-Mob Lag

[latent valve]

put villager in 1x1 with their workbench so they wont pathfind to find a new one

[void void]

Plugin?

[ashen cliff]

Freeze villagers till they are needed.

Yes.

[latent valve]

roaming villager are a bitch to performance

[void void]

Ohh

[latent valve]

krusic wont that also stop trade reset?

[void void]

Yeah

[ashen cliff]

No one on my server complained yet... So... no?

[void void]

Oh ok

[latent valve]

[void void]

hey, does count in the timing report mean number of entities?

I don't think so

But I could be wrong

hoefullly not, cos other wise you have 10k villagers and 7.7k zombies. don't think thats right

[heady spear]

Z thinks I'm intelligent :))

[void void]

🤣

what's makes it endearing?

[golden gust]

no, count is the total number of times that was called within the tick frame

[cobalt surge]

Lol city

[golden gust]

~ per tick is all the way to the right

[heady spear]

he doesn't realize that I'm actually dumb, he thinks I'm acting

[void void]

Ummm

[heady spear]

jokes on him

[void void]

ah, so theres 30 villagers actually

[static badge]

are you intelligent city

[cobalt surge]

Then shhhh don't tell him

[void void]

and you have 0.25 tipped arrows

Ok

i can't read i think

[heady spear]

mbaxter just thinks I'm dumb though, at least he got it right

[void void]

what happened then to that 0.67 of a villager?

[cobalt surge]

Don't worry about that guy.. he's all good.. lol

[upper flicker]

yeah pretty much

[unreal pike]

is there a voxelsniper for paper 1.15?

hmm

found it

Hello! if i may interest you -- voxelsniper for 1.15.2 (and possibly older versions)
Paper: https://papermc.io/forums/t/1-15-2-voxelsniper/2987
Spigot: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/voxelsniper.76791/
@final tendon

thanks

[woven otter]

no

[void void]

just having trouble with loading images

everythign else fine

https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition check this out

[void void]

.fizzbuzz

[limber knot]

http://www.fizzbuzz.enterprises

[void void]

rip domain is kill

[woven otter]

F

[merry talon]

build a circle

proof that facebook is evil

[visual shale]

anyone wanna play?

[fallen oracle]

Play what...?

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) I can't attack that.

[latent valve]

.kill Viper

[limber knot]

shoves Viper into a microwave and waits until they pop.

[void void]

anyone wanna play

this guild is full of tired server admins and programmers

[fallen oracle]

this ^

[void void]

however if someone's up for playing bedwars in hive then sure!

[fallen oracle]

not this ^

[pulsar wigeon]

banned for advertising

[void void]

ok

party poopers :(

[jagged egret]

can someone explain how i can view the minecraft server source code re-mapped

[woven otter]

wait hive has bedwars

?

[void void]

yes

[jagged egret]

wat

[pulsar wigeon]

mini's tool is fine for looking up a single method or something

completely worthless if you actually want to browse the source

[jagged egret]

i need to figure out how the chunk packet data is structured

yup

thats why i need src

tried that, get errors

[woven otter]

cool I guess I can have an alternative place to play at since hypixel won't let me join

[jagged egret]

ok

[limber knot]

Yarn has tools to build the mc source and shit

Mcpconfig does it for mcp

I use snowman

[heady spear]

the futures in PaperLib execute synchronously right? or do I need to launch new tasks to use the result? :p

[woven otter]

I was "banned" for nickname "Cukmens" ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[upper flicker]

yes, well technically I think they will execute back on the thread you called them on

so its not guaranteed to be main, but it will come back

[heady spear]

Wait how the hell does that even work then

[limber knot]

I bet it just looks at the property

[upper flicker]

wat

[woven otter]

watt

[jagged egret]

joule

[upper flicker]

then just ignore the red X

blocking people for using 'wrong' flags isnt going to happen. Because while the recommendation is based on what is best for most, there will be edge cases

there will be people who want to test new stuff, experiment, hell even different jvms occasionally

so bad idea

[cosmic raft]

Yep, some people have found valid reasons to change flags

They use what works the best

[woven otter]

like u

[upper flicker]

they told me jokes were supposed to be funny 😦

[cosmic raft]

https://canary.discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/289587909051416579/505620626229428234

[upper flicker]

well lets see it kash

[woven otter]

yes it eats your cookies

[cosmic raft]

there you go @upper flicker

[upper flicker]

a likely story

how do I know this screenshot wasnt doctored

[cosmic raft]

you think I can edit a picture in less than a minute?

i'm not that good

[upper flicker]

[cosmic raft]

besides

if I were to edit it

I'd have removed mcdonalds

[upper flicker]

fair point

[cosmic raft]

your turn

[upper flicker]

woah woah woah

[cosmic raft]

https://tenor.com/view/judge-judy-gif-5714654

[upper flicker]

babe pls no

where's the trust

[ember crag]

Mine

I don't use public WiFi

[limber knot]

imagine using public wifi

[ember crag]

Wait. Where did my status bar go?

[cosmic raft]

I don't anymore either, that was before I upgraded my plan to 10GB of data

[ember crag]

I have *"unlimited"

[cosmic raft]

mine is Kandarin/Kandarin-5G :p

[ember crag]

You know...where they say it's unlimited, but slow you down when you actually use it.

[pulsar wigeon]

i only have 4 saved wifi networks. home, work, gf, mom

[ember crag]

But I have fiber at home, so I only use my data at work now.

[cosmic raft]

has fibre too

300/300 ^^

[ember crag]

Mine is theoretically capable of gigabit, but the hardware on the side of my house only has a 10/100 base T port on it.

[cosmic raft]

940/940 is $40 more per month

but I don't need that

[ember crag]

They aren't upgrading hardware right now because of 'rona

[limber knot]

100/20 is 50€ here

good ol' germany

[ember crag]

I pay $36 for 100

[limber knot]

oO

[ember crag]

I'm not sure what the upload is

[jagged egret]

there's a much easier way... just ask for the password lol

a lot of people don't care

[pulsar wigeon]

casually bragging about doing illegal things nice

[ember crag]

Looks like upload is 30. Got. 90.1 down, 27.5 up on speed test.

[pulsar wigeon]

i'm pretty sure i need a new router

[cosmic raft]

I can recommend a Ubiquiti product~

I didn't typo

so I win

[ember crag]

Technically, I pay for 30 down, 10 up. But they upgraded everyone for free when the initial fiber got upgraded.

[cosmic raft]

reccomend

https://i.imgur.com/nQe49uq.jpg

My setup ^

[pulsar wigeon]

that's a lot of devices...

[cosmic raft]

ONT, Router, Switch, AP, and probe

[pulsar wigeon]

jesus fuck what even for

[cosmic raft]

what do you mean wiz

[pulsar wigeon]

i'd just like to plug an ISR in and be done

don't need a full home network here

[cosmic raft]

well

mine is a bit unique

[ember crag]

I have a cat6 from the modem outside to my router, which is a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 R6900v2

[visual shale]

Anyone need a bedrock or java minecraft server hosted?

[cosmic raft]

the switch is between the ONT and the router, as there is another router as well - ISP gives 2x IPv4 and 2x /64 blocks of IPv6

I have parents shit on the other router :p

[visual shale]

viper DM me

lol

[ember crag]

I only have 1x static ipv4 and dynamic ipv6

[cosmic raft]

I do :)

[ember crag]

I wouldn't mind getting some static ipv6

[cosmic raft]

https://paste.gg/p/kashike/05fc9d3a824b47febda811eb256a7d6d

I even spent time making that public

It took me a few hours to figure that out ^

[ember crag]

I know how to make an AAAA record

[cosmic raft]

lol

[visual shale]

lol

[cosmic raft]

never needed to do such a thing

[pulsar wigeon]

everything i am reading about ubiquiti looks very...not ubiquity

it looks very technically oriented towards setups that require a lot of complexity

[cosmic raft]

It really isn't wiz

If you go for the USG

the EdgeRouter are a bit less friendly

USG uses the same UniFi-like UI which is really nice

[pulsar wigeon]

er, what is USG

it's not on their product page at all?

[cosmic raft]

https://www.ui.com/unifi-routing/usg/

[pulsar wigeon]

wtf even

[cosmic raft]

A great product

[pulsar wigeon]

they don't have anything with inbuilt APs do they

since they market towards distributed setups

[cosmic raft]

correct

[pulsar wigeon]

their most basic AP is ... $300?

yikes

[cosmic raft]

@still smelt red = unprotected

no wiz

I paid ~$130 CAD for mine

[pulsar wigeon]

which one is that

[cosmic raft]

https://www.ui.com/unifi/unifi-ap-ac-lite/

[pulsar wigeon]

oh weird ok, that's not shown in the comparison table here..

[cosmic raft]

yeah https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16833664024

$135 CAD roughly

easily the best router + AP I've had

and I recommend ubiquiti to everyone basically

but

if you really want an "all-in-one"

[fallen oracle]

I have one of those, it's nice.

[cosmic raft]

https://amplifi.com/ by Ubiquiti might be ok

[fallen oracle]

It's also really strong. It can provide stable wifi 3 floors below

[cosmic raft]

Yup

Ubiquiti is great

[pulsar wigeon]

yea i live in a small house and i am at most gonna have two devices on ethernet and one or two on wifi ever

really don't need all this overkill

i didn't lol

probably just someone being salty ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[limber knot]

quick, take down wiz while he's lost the power of the overlord!

[pulsar wigeon]

yea that was pretty much just cosmetic

lmao kash

all of these are like "3 smart tvs, 2 ipads, 3 computers, 4 phones!!!"

who the fuck needs 3 smart tvs

wtf even i mean like

[limber knot]

someone who wants to watch netflix on a screen in their bathroom maybe?

[fallen oracle]

Well it really depends. In your situation in an apartment, you don't need 3.

Some people live in houses and have a TV on each floor.

[pulsar wigeon]

whose situation what

did i say i lived in an appt?

o-o

[fallen oracle]

Oop sorry small house

My point being smaller living spaces don't need it all.

[pulsar wigeon]

i live in a 3 bed 3 bath house with 0 tvs

[fallen oracle]

Oh wow

[pulsar wigeon]

pretty typical suburban townhouse i think

[fallen oracle]

Ahh

[pulsar wigeon]

you know looking through this i might want to pick up a switch too

tbh i am not too keen on trying to run more cables through my walls

[worn ember]

the put them through your floor

[pulsar wigeon]

f u

[worn ember]

no u

[pulsar wigeon]

technically it's going through my garage atm

and up through my floor

but i'd rather not drill more holes in my wall/floor anyway

[worn ember]

ur just lazy

[pulsar wigeon]

whatever you say

[fallen oracle]

I've been using this thing for my TV in the basement where my power lines in my house act as a Ethernet cable. You can plug one into the router in the attic and then one in the TV in the basement and it acts as Ethernet relay.

[ember crag]

I have 2 smart TVs and one non smart tv

Big one downstairs, medium one upstairs in the master bedroom, small one in the guest room

Guest room is going to eventually get a smart TV box though

I'm thinking about getting the shield pro

And moving the old shield upstairs, then moving my old nexus player to guest room

[fallen oracle]

The Nvidia shield?

[ember crag]

Yes

[fallen oracle]

Got one of those in one of the rooms, I'd have to go figure out which room.

[ember crag]

I have the 2015 on the big tv

And an old nexus player upstairs

The only thing I don't still like about the Nexus player is no prime video

Other than that, it's a very good streaming box still

For 1080p stuff anyway

[fallen oracle]

Trying to figure out why nexus player sounds familiar.

[ember crag]

Google's always on hockey puck TV box

[fallen oracle]

All our TVs are either smart, have a shield, or a firetv stick

[upper flicker]

tbh Id pay extra for a dumb tv

[ember crag]

Before those, I had a Vizio Android TV box and a Logitech Revue TV box

[upper flicker]

articles keep coming out about smart tvs sending shit back home

[fallen oracle]

Since we use Plex and Netflix and YouTube TV for everything.

[upper flicker]

what you watch and shit

[limber knot]

I have one smart tv, and I use it as a computer monitor 😂

[fallen oracle]

We block those

[upper flicker]

at this point I trust other stuff more and would rather just plug those into it

[fallen oracle]

We just have pihole over our network.

[upper flicker]

so do I but I know I cant catch everything 👀

[ember crag]

Same. I never connected my smart TV WiFi. No point since my boxes do it better anyway.

[fallen oracle]

That's fair. I'm sure we catch most stuff but not everything.

[upper flicker]

luckily most stuff does ask DNS

[fallen oracle]

There's this new show I've been watching called Devs.

[upper flicker]

probably some spooky stuff that hardcodes things

[fallen oracle]

Really good, should check it out.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8134186/

[jagged egret]

does anyone know why rocket leage would refuse to open on windows

[latent valve]

[upper flicker]

I dont but if you want I can tape some bottle rockets to some hotwheels and we can fake it

[pulsar wigeon]

z knows all about faking it

[latent valve]

^ he's fake Z too lel

[upper flicker]

if he's fake z

and I'm fake cat

yeah that would explain why cat is always so tired

[jagged egret]

can someone explain how i can access the source or send me lonk pls

[limber knot]

what sauce

[void void]

hello everyone

just asking

does anyone know any plugs i can add to make mobs harder?

the server is on hard

[olive garden]

give them speed and strength

[void void]

a what?

me me dumb

i dont

[jagged egret]

KennyTV the minecraft source for 1.15

[signal dome]

why do java iterators have to cause so much lag ffs

[jagged egret]

wat

[limber knot]

you want to use nms methods/classes? or what exactly

[jagged egret]

I need to figure out the structure of the chunk data packet so I can decode outbound ones, change blocks in the chunks, and re-write them

[limber knot]

you probably won't get too far by reading obfuscated source

or even deobfuscated for that matter (using proguard mappings and something like enigma, exporting source)

you already looked at wiki.vg right?

to be honest wiki-vg isn't really helpful

at least for me

why that

[jagged egret]

I did look at wiki.vg and have their implementation of decoding a chunk packet done but it's throwing errors

[limber knot]

you can just simply build paper (see readme), could build it with buildtools, or look at deobf classes with their mappings

here's also an example of custom reading https://github.com/ViaVersion/ViaVersion/blob/abstraction/common/src/main/java/us/myles/ViaVersion/protocols/protocol1_15to1_14_4/types/Chunk1_15Type.java (you'd need to look at the used types, especially chunk section and its iteration)

im so bored )=

[jagged egret]

you could help me read chunk packets :D

[golden gust]

did you try yarn?

[jagged egret]

can you send me the lonk again pls :)

i wasn't sure where to get started, maybe i'm being dumb

[limber knot]

.g fabricmc yarn

(KennyTV) https://github.com/FabricMC/yarn -- FabricMC/yarn: Libre Minecraft mappings, free to use for...: "Yarn is a set of open, unencumbered Minecraft mappings, free for everyone to use under the Creative Commons Zero license. The intention is to let..."

[merry talon]

whenever I send an important email using gmail's SMTP feature and I see this thing beside it

i get a little scared

[void void]

i accidentally messed up all the entities in my minecraft world, right when i had found a woodland mansion. i tried deleting and regenerating the region file it was in, but all the guys in it are still gone. any tips?

and by "messed up" i mean killed

EHLO

[pulsar wigeon]

QUIT

[merry talon]

can I permanently stop my GPU from sending audio thru displayport

every time the driver updates windows switches back to using my monitor speakers

I cannot stress enough how much I do not want that to happen

oh I can set it to 0 on the monitor

that helps

[fallen oracle]

You can also disable them

[upper flicker]

You can disable the audio interface in windows

That might do it, but the driver might reinstall it and that may reenable it too

[jagged egret]

the command ./gradlew yarn fails: https://hasteb.in/abebireg.gradle

[merry talon]

I have been doing that, but yeah it gets reenabled

which I guess means windows switches it to the most recently enabled audio device

what does that matter

1660ti

[jagged egret]

https://github.com/FabricMC/yarn/issues/1258

lol so it's a brand new issue

[limber knot]

rip

[void void]

guys, what's the simplest permission plugin out there? I just want to let my players have access to /tp and /time?

[fallen oracle]

RPAN is actually kinda dope. I'm just shuffling thorough people playing with their dogs.

Some of the shits really random too like this one dude is just broadcasting himself install arch on a machine.

[dusk hornet]

anyonr here use epic enchants?

[jagged egret]

http://i.imgur.com/NwiMqwx.png

heh

[pulsar wigeon]

i would prob stay away from any plugin with "epic" "super" "ultra" etc in the name

[fallen oracle]

😂😂

[dusk hornet]

@pulsar wigeon isnt it a good plugin

i use ultra permissions and it’s great

[pulsar wigeon]

don't ping me

also i know for a fact ultra permissions is broken

[dusk hornet]

oh i thinks its fine i use it and nothing is wrong so far

[pulsar wigeon]

good for you

[jagged egret]

ah yes because clearly that means nothing is broken

:P

[pulsar wigeon]

do you have covid-19 yet?

[dusk hornet]

ok

[pulsar wigeon]

no? bet it's just a government conspiracy then

[latent valve]

[limber knot]

lmao

[quasi valley]

I step on at least 2 rusty nails daily and am still fine

[worn ember]

wiz, have you pooped today yet?

[pulsar wigeon]

wut even

[worn ember]

if you haven't it proves this is just a simulation