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olive garden
void void
hm interesting
nouveau driver has gotten a lot better
manages to run minecraft 40-60fps on geforce 710M
olive garden
I swear I thought that was related to vehicles at first
sounds like some french car
or a misspelled game title
wide chasm
I think 'nouveau' is 'new' in French, but that was 4 years ago, so...
olive garden
wait, have you learned French?
worn ember
yeah nouveau is new
olive garden
what now, does everyone speak French?
worn ember
3
olive garden
that's nice
worn ember
yeah, cba to learn german tho
worn ember
i dont like how they use capitals in the middle of a sentence
limber knotBOT
am learning german
capitalization is nice
contrary to some other more inconvenient things in German :aaa:
pulsar wigeon
yea capitalization is straightforward
olive garden
yeah, that should be least of your worries
limber knotBOT
all nouns and names are uppercase, not that hard to remember ;P
nominalization can be a bit harder to learn I suppose
limber knotBOT
turning words into nouns, run -> the run
rennen- das Rennen
or well no, the run isn’t the same
pulsar wigeon
also make sure you use sie and Sie correctly
olive garden
ooohhh
sie vs Sie is pretty easy as well
at least for me, as a Hungarian
I imagine it's a lot harder for English speakers, since they don't differentiate as much between the formal and informal addressing of others
(there is no you vs You)
limber knotBOT
the running* is nominalization
pulsar wigeon
well yea i mean even people "fluent" in english constantly fuck you they're/their/there etc
limber knotBOT
top 10 anime plot twists is people saying “your stupid”
pulsar wigeon
"you're stupid"
potent warren
IRC 🤢
You're already on Discord bruh
oh
Thought you were talking about a client
slim nymph
https://i.imgur.com/32VJaQL.png this is exciting. never thought id see 20-30ms GC's on 1.15
upper flicker
looks like youve got a blog post to update
slim nymph
yep just trying to concrete the tuning
i know how to make it even lower now, just comes at cost of risk to other servers with different memory patterns
so gotta keep it balanced to be good for everyone
green mulch
upper flicker
that's what an 'advanced' section is for
slim nymph
lol
pulsar wigeon
implying anyone reads
pulsar wigeon
the amount of people who copy the whole thing, then reduce xms because ptero etc can't allocate the full heap...
slim nymph
im sure most go to the blog, copy the box and run away
so in the end not going to be dropping that G1Mixed flag, just gonna be tuning it in the proper direction this time lol
actually likely gonna be reversing direction on the SurvivorRatio too
what im finding is that survivor is actually whats hurting pause time
so, before my flags tried to optimize avoidng garbage getting to old. im finding that its actually more effecient to let it have fewer passes in survivor, let it promote to old, and then let old collect incrementally through mixed and stop having so much evacuation.
curious what a single tenuring might look like
rough delta
slim nymph
im doing it lol, MaxNew 80, MinNew 70, max tenuring 1, survivor space 10
ALL OF THE FUCKING EDEN
basically, every eden collection will say you get 1 shot, 1 opportunity, do you take it, or do you let it slip, and fall into old gen.
slim nymph
i might look at zgc sometime, but im sure there are trade offs, probably in cpu cost
one concerning factor I see about ZGC is it introduces additional cost to reads vs G1 has cost to writes
void void
limber knotBOT
does anybody have an idea why lava would damage someone? xD
limber knotBOT
olive garden
do you not believe me?
limber knotBOT
yes
pulsar wigeon
limber knotBOT
it was worldguard! ;_; xD
void void
Unless you meant "why lava wouldn't damage someone", p sure it was minecraft
pulsar wigeon
yea, WG doesn't cause lava damage
limber knotBOT
uh, yeah, lol
patent path
hi! anyone knows a plugin that makes animals invulnerable when they have a name (with a nametag)? I used to use Stables but it's old and not working anymore
ember crag
If I knew java well enough, I would think it would be pretty simple to throw one together. When a mob damage event happens, check to see if that mob has a name set. If it does, then cancel the event.
peak dirge
@slim nymph keep me updated, I may tweak my OpenJ9 tuning recommendations based on your results
if I decide to do this then I'll probably switch to the balanced garbage collector instead
patent path
i found this one https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/stablemaster.35286/
in case someone is interested
doesn't work with nametags but with the vanilla tame feature. will do the job for now!
digital jasper
ebon sentinel
lost eagle
jolly isle
feral radish
Hey, I don't know if this is the right channel but is a i5-4440 enough to run a 1.15+ Survival-Server with ~10 Players comfortably?
azure spade
young gate
void venture
I believe so
I mean, with the right config, I am running a 1.15 server on a celeron
void void
oh boy.
jagged egret
there are also a freaking monton of other factors besides just the processor
void void
i5-4440 has less than 2000 single thread rating, so it might be okay it might not be.
Doesn't look great tho.
Make sure you pregen your world and follow the full optimization guide BEFORE any players join.
Might be ok.
void venture
You don't need that much power for 10 players though
void venture
I have a 1.15 server with 10 players
jagged egret
chao performance
void venture
hence why I am saying it
yeah, 1.15 has shit performance compared to the older versions
but you can get around it
latent valve
I7-3770
30 ppl survival 20tps rocking 30-45mspt if they loading chunk
feral radish
I'm running a 1.16 Snapshot-Server on my 4,2Ghz Ryzen 2600 with no Problems but I don't want to let my PC run 24/7. And a friend would sell me a mainboard, i5-4440 and 8gb ram for 75€
latent valve
I mena not by much
void void
at least it's over 2000
void void
yea
im referring to old
the new cpubenchmark is intel shill
what did they mean by this
feral radish
And what would be a server setup you would recommend?
limber knotBOT
Guide for optimizing performance: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimization⚡.283181/
void void
the entire thing is important. do ALL of it.
the world pregen is not skippable.
do it.
too many people skip that then come here crying about lag, and im over it
worn ember
If you have a void world do you still need to render chunks?
void void
idk dark
feral radish
Yes I did it to my waterfall network but now I am running a snapshot server
worn ember
Idk either that's why I'm asking
void void
idk m8
worn ember
Idk either m8
void void
nice m8
worn ember
Ok m8
void void
Ok
worn ember
K
void void
k
void venture
there are some things you may also consider for optimization
such as EntityTrackerFixer
void void
that's in the optimization guide....
void venture
is it?
void void
indeed.
void venture
haven't seen it last time, my bad
jagged egret
why aren't the optimizations done by default
latent valve
because default is vanilla value iirc
limber knotBOT
because some people like to play as close as vanilla as you can get
not everybody is running a 100 player server xD
jagged egret
ah fair point
woven steppe
crisp talon
half nymph
distant turret
4.1% of servers are using 1.15 and 1.15.1, is there a reason for this?
jagged egret
it be slow
distant turret
as apposed to 1.15.2 i mean
doesnt .2 just fix bugs? why use those 2 over ut
it*
distant turret
okay
jagged egret
but I just got back to the country two days ago, take whatever I say with a grain of salt lol
distant turret
xD ok
cosmic raft
Oh lord.
I found a bad world on the new snapshot
It has hung my desktop for 5 minutes now
jagged egret
oof
jagged egret
so what's even in 1.16
magic ice
Nether update
new nether biomes, blue fire, few new mobs
new material called netherite
jagged egret
interesting
humble moss
turbid birch
slim nymph
"the world pregen is not skippable."
i dont pregen?
cant pregen an unlimited world lol
void void
when you're aikar you can do whatever you want
golden gust
with the async stuff, unless you're a super large server with metric fucktons of people tryna gen the world at once or on a toaster, pre-gen is generally a non and completely overstated issue
shell vine
imagine not pregenning your infinite world
void void
ok, if any of you bother to read rather than trying to just show up and one up people
youd see he was trying to run it on a toaster
which is why i said it was not skippable
shell vine
.rekt
limber knotBOT
☑ sudo apt-get REKT
shell vine
.rekt
limber knotBOT
☑ REKT in pieces
golden gust
am just sayin generically u fuq
void void
am just saying it rekitcally u fuq
cosmic raft
@magic ice yep
golden gust
I'll let u lib 4 nao
cosmic raft
and if you move a certain way it makes all those things update
magic ice
huh
shell vine
i thought picard ended 
golden gust
It did
magic ice
yea
golden gust
am just more simple than simple
magic ice
ending was great
shell vine
i wish they made that ai better than some cheesy tentacles
void void
i need a dockerfile starter that has a recent version of node and yarn
:(
eh fuq i guess i can just install yarn in the dockerfile
void void
wtf their docs say to use yarn to install yarn
what i dont fucking have it yet
wtf it wants me to install yarn 1 globally and then install yarn 2 with that
jagged egret
woh it's a cat
slim nymph
yarn 2 breaks some modules
they made some opinionated choices. ones i dont disagree with, reasonable thoughts, but im sure it pissed people off whos modules broke
modules must now explicitly declare deps in package.json, doesnt allow "see if its there then use it"
if its not in your package.json, you cant see it
void void
hmm, can i FROM node:10 and still get yarn without starting my Dockerfile from scratch with alpine or smth
and wtf
slim nymph
sudo npm install yarn -g btw
void void
o nice
jagged egret
pokes @zzzCat how are you it's been forever
can we not at people
@golden gust ahi estamos
jagged egret
hay reglas??
void void
si las reglas está en el canal #404345080917262369
void venture
están* since it is plural
void venture
That's pretty accurate tho
void void
wtf why cant i access my app 
simple@simples-MacBook-Pro ~/Documents/Workspace/philteam/web/flashcards-frontend$ docker ps -a ✭master
CONTAINER ID IMAGE COMMAND CREATED STATUS PORTS NAMES
2a1640ad6da7 philteam/flashcards-frontend "docker-entrypoint.s…" 36 seconds ago Up 35 seconds 0.0.0.0:3001->3000/tcp ecstatic_leakey
am trying localhost:3001
should be working
golden gust
what's an iso?
void void
oh i get it, it's running on localhost in the container 
golden gust
mfw
barren latch
Hey guys if you were new to a server how would you prefer to be taught its mechanics? I'm leaning towards making a /tutorial command that links to a webpage. And on that webpage are short and to the point video tutorials.
void void
thonk
golden gust
Think about the people on potatos
jagged egret
no me recuerda, gato electronico? :p
void void
stop you're scaring him with the language of the south
void venture
Nunca voy a dejar de ver raro algún mensaje en español en un chat Inglés jajaj
Not that if often see them anyways
jagged egret
justamente regrese de argentina hace como 2 dias entonces hablando espanol todavia es habito jaja
void void
weirdos
void venture
I am from Argentina lol
jagged egret
en serio?? Que parte
void venture
Chaco
jagged egret
fua, yo estuve cerca de Florencio Varela
void venture
Buenos Aires, nice
The "state" (not really sure if I should call it that) I am in isn't the most known by far
jagged egret
oh entendi mal, hay algo cerca de buenos aires se llama chaco segun las mapas de Google
Province, no?
void venture
I guess
And Chaco is a province of Argentina from the north, yeah
one of the most boring imo
It's near Corrientes though which has some nice places
jagged egret
I only got to see a few parts of Buenos Aires
void venture
You're missing a lot
Kinda hard to know every place as a tourist though, I get it
the country is rather big after all, for better or worse
jagged egret
Yeah for sure
ripe meadow
ancient bolt
Woah intellij can render java-docs inline with code now
fucking dope
oh doesn't let you text select, that's a bummer
fallen oracle
Example?
ancient bolt
potent warren
"I use Arch btw"
cosmic raft
how @ancient bolt ?
potent warren
It's not even a surprising feature. Seen it already yesterday
ancient bolt
I mean, it's new in the latest preview
potent warren
Again, already seen it, thus it's not new
cosmic raft
cool story
potent warren
Like you ;)
jagged egret
ah yes because the fact that you have seen it must mean that no one else has yet to see it
potent warren
Lmao. Guess that having an implicit /s ain't enough.
fallen oracle
Have they hinted when they are releasing 2020?
pearl ibex
Some spanish talk over here. :P
ancient bolt
It's soon, they are in the release candidate phase now
pearl ibex
What a nice time to have Ultimate Edition. :>
potent warren
Or, just use EAP. Haven't gotten many problems with it before.
Maybe some plugins don't work on EAP versions, but it's up to the plugin devs soooo....
keen terrace
Anyone here found a solution to villagers all being killed by zombies? I'm looking for a fix that will not disable zombie infecting villagers entirely as I still want it to be possible so that villager trading halls can get discount by curing zombie villagers
fallen oracle
Wdym Landis?
pearl ibex
About what?
fallen oracle
"what a nice time to have ultimate"
pearl ibex
Oh.
I just wanted to brag about it. :>
Damn, I'm bored.
I think imma update my plugins to 1.15...
fallen oracle
Okay
cosmic raft
and people say I write bad commit messages
Refactor label filter to allow filtering label action context from any, old, and new to prevent automatic unlabels when a bot-managed label is manually applied
cosmic raft
stop picking on me
static badge
maybe don't wrote dum commit messages
ancient bolt
I hate commenter tests in intellij so fucking much
ill look at it later
currently in the process of a massive rewrite of that whole section of the project so not really worried about it
void void
aka fuq ur pr
twin lagoon
what's the correct way to upstream a BYOF?
golden gust
up up
vestal jasper
Up up up up up
cosmic raft
@still smelt I see you forking
twin lagoon
up we go
fallen oracle
I finally understand Kotlin so now I can make a PR to that resource.
cosmic raft
what are you up to
vestal jasper
Kotlin nice
ancient bolt
oh wow that was an easy fix for the commenter test I'm a dumbass
ancient bolt
@cosmic raft meanwhile my commit messages https://github.com/minecraft-dev/MinecraftDev/commit/a107f0745222dcc3dc80d2f312318910ff2d99b6
proven hedge
void void
why dont you just go make issues
ancient bolt
you can in the issue tracker
cosmic raft
@ancient bolt yike
wary panther
ancient bolt
lol I was trying to figure out why my teamcity wasn't building my plugin, turns out my teamcity is still configured to build Paper and eyyykar just pushed
I don't see any reason why I should still be building paper tho
safe barn
blazing owl
void void
plz go look at the bottom of the downloads page for yourself
polar sonnet
quasi valley
heh thought that was intentional even
void void
who did what
static badge
void void
o lol
limber knotBOT
ah yes, viper has caught the stream virus
static badge
using streams
limber knotBOT
but aside from streams being streams, it doesn't fit the rest of the methods of that class
every single other sum method uses indexed for loops, then yours crash in with their streams
limber knotBOT
how haven't you had a heart attack working with the mc server yet, leaf?
giving your excessive love for streams of course
static badge
I have patches to remove streams
limber knotBOT
in his heart
static badge
tuinity
limber knotBOT
AA is a scream for help
empty line means empty line
kash you monster why don't you have spaces between if/for and the brackets
void void
i do that when shortcircuiting
limber knotBOT
I do that too for early returns 👀
void void
wait
yeah shortcircuiting is the wrong term there
could've sworn it had another name than early return though
cosmic raft
@still smelt I left such methods out because of boxing :)
limber knotBOT
fastutil is bae
cosmic raft
however
ancient bolt
That's usually called fail fast
Also Mojang streams don't come close to the shit I've seen in my professional career
static badge
what horrors have you witnessed
ancient bolt
someList.stream().first().orElse(null) being not the worst, not even close, but probably the highest ratio of shit / line of code I've seen
olive garden
someone must really need those one-liners
ancient bolt
I worked for a client that always always preferred streams over for loops
static badge
ChunkSection chunksection = (ChunkSection) Arrays.stream(achunksection).filter((chunksection1) -> {
return chunksection1 != null && chunksection1.getYPosition() >> 4 == finalI;
}).findFirst().orElse(Chunk.a);
literally chunksection[i]
static badge
good grief
ancient bolt
So instead they would do list.stream().forEach() - not even the decency of list.forEach()
static badge
the fuck is that shit
cosmic raft
My repo has been tainted
left swift
Close twitch
heady spear
k then it's settled, we're shutting down twitch
left swift
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
left swift
So mean
heady spear
is day of week an enum
ur switching on something that depends on the locale
do you hate foreigners
you're racist
left swift
heady spear
you can be italian and racist
static badge
can't be italian and alive rn
ashen cliff
^
unreal quarry
🍺
heady spear
wait can u kill people on april 1st if it's a prank
void void
IRL or minecraf
ashen cliff
China: It's just a very early April 1st prank.
heady spear
who plays minecraft lmao nerd
void void
true i just download plugins
limber knotBOT
racist smh >:(
heady spear
no, just sensible
static badge
he's not wrong
heady spear
viper is the racist
static badge
germans lose all the world wars
ashen cliff
You forgot to add Italy to that list.
limber knotBOT
yes you are
heady spear
yes u r u hate foreigners you're xenophobic and basically trump
italy is just a stinky shoe with bad cheese
left swift
Germans won the final war
void void
i got noodle arms so i look taller
heady spear
don't call me god
limber knotBOT
everyone not using metric units is worthless
limber knotBOT
your nose is counterintuitive
heady spear
also celsius is dum
Sweden invests dum shit, celsius was the worst
and dynamite, dynamite was also dum
no u need to know how many horses you can get rid off if you buy a vehicle
north valley
Clearly duckpower is the way to go.
heady spear
ur dum go suck an icicle
also dumasses calling water h2o it's fucking water lmao imagine
everyone is so dumb like imagine using kinesiology to describe ur mollucales
heady spear
if you didn't hate foreigners u'd understand
limber knotBOT
smh
heady spear
Pasta is a Chinese invention
first you steal their noodles, then you steal their virus
how about you guys do something original for once
void void
um sorry city did u mean dihydrogen monoxide? lol sweaty...water??? wtf...
heady spear
i don't speak scientific wtf read a fucking bible
void void
its hydroxic acid ok
weary briar
small fjord
people in #paper-help told me to ask my java-only question here, so thats why Im asking here. Basically, I am saving objects which implement Serializable to a File using a FileOutputStream and an ObjectOutputStream. Would the loading of these objects be faster, if I saved them as one Base64 string in the file?
void void
no
you're eventually encoding them into base64
which is (a bit) more expensive than simply OOS->FOS
small fjord
and the decoding would also be more expensive than FIS -> OIS?
small fjord
I dont know, it was just a thought I had. thank you!
void void
Is it possible to enter a command args with a space?
Like "Foo Bar"
I tried <> "" `` '' [] {}
grizzled hearth
wat
olive garden
no
golden gust
Bukkit just does a string split
olive garden
the best you can do is join all arguments at the end
golden gust
the plugin needs to ^ itself
void void
Well thats pretty dumb that there is no escape character
Could that be added to paper?
wide chasm
I highly doubt it
void void
Or is there a reason its not implemented?
golden gust
it's up to plugins to deal with
limber knotBOT
joining the args is the same as giving the entire string, just that most people don't ever need it and it'd be another arg to pass
so you're not missing anything
Hell
o
fallen slate
next crane
limber knotBOT
use maven for dependency management
fallen slate
how do i use maven
worn pivot
gusty tiger
how do i update a plugin on spigotmc.org? i want to put out my newer binary but the only way i can find is uploading a new resource and that doesn't take advantage of the 'version history' tab
jagged egret
Does anyone know a good guide/tutorial on multithreading in Java?
little forum
dawn current
tropic flower
steep acorn
limber knotBOT
somebody here do c#?
having generic issues
I have 0 clue about c# and just trying to do stuff without having to learn c# :D
pulsar wigeon
lul
jagged egret
how does one disable the particle on an area effect cloud
limber knotBOT
actions is a List<Action<Packet>>, I add a new Action<StatusResponsePacket>, where that packet is a subclass of packet, my java me things this is alright, c# seems to disagree
Action is c#'s consumer
limber knotBOT
mmmh, any other idea so solve this then?
I want a Map<PacketType, List of actions for that packet>
pulsar wigeon
you can't cast Action<StatusResponsePacket> to Action<Packet> because then someone could do action(someOtherPacket) and your Action<StatusResponsePacket> would break
jagged egret
nvm
weak totem
How much does a MC world take on average? are there any stats for this?
olive garden
you can probably do a List<object>
limber knotBOT
more than 1
olive garden
lol
limber knotBOT
and at least 2 bananas
olive garden
C#'s generic aren't retarded, they actually support variance (in and out parameters on the generic type iirc)
pulsar wigeon
fallen jungle
That escalated quickly. First Mini was making a cute little tower defense and now suddenly a Minecraft client
limber knotBOT
guess I should actually learn that then
limber knotBOT
I think you can
pulsar wigeon
that would work then
limber knotBOT
this strange trygetvalue thing seems to do that
olive garden
I think that's only for classes
pulsar wigeon
you essentially need List<Action<? extends Packet>>
olive garden
yes wiz
limber knotBOT
ye I know, thats what I couldnt find
pulsar wigeon
which means if what i thought and what trigary seems to confirm is right, you need a custom action class
that defines that using in/out
(i forget which is which cuz fuck covariance/contravariance)
olive garden
doesn't the built-in define that already?
pulsar wigeon
idk
limber knotBOT
the build in does public delegate void Action<in T>(T obj);
pulsar wigeon
yea
cuz it takes any packet type ok
ez way would be make them all Action<Packet> and check type on input :^)
limber knotBOT
meh
olive garden
I think it's easier to make it a List<object> instead
jagged egret
does anyone know why Player#setSpectatorTarget would not be working? It just teleports me to the entity
void void
what gamemode does the spectating player have?
void void
true
i remember having to mess with packets in 1.8.x...
because of not being able to set the specator correctly
how are you trying to set the spectator overall?
in my old kitpvp plugin codebase i see that i schedule setting it one tick later
so there must've been a good reason for that...
jagged egret
@EventHandler
public void onSneak(PlayerToggleSneakEvent e) {
if(!e.isSneaking()) return;
Block b = e.getPlayer().getTargetBlock(null, 10);
b.setType(Material.AIR);
AreaEffectCloud aec = b.getWorld().spawn(b.getLocation().add(0.5, 0, 0.5), AreaEffectCloud.class);
aec.setRadius(0);
aec.setParticle(Particle.BLOCK_CRACK, Material.AIR.createBlockData());
e.getPlayer().setGameMode(GameMode.SPECTATOR);
e.getPlayer().setSpectatorTarget(aec);
}
maybe indeed try 1 tick later
jagged egret
aiight
void void
let me know if it worked
because i'm going to bring that old codebase back to life; and if specating does not work then one major part of it will be unimplemented :(
jagged egret
spectating has got to work somehow though because there's /spectate in 1.15, right?
nope still doesn't work
pulsar wigeon
action.GetType().GetGenericTypeDefinition() is Packet :^)
limber knotBOT
thats so intuitive, lol
pulsar wigeon
c# isn't erased
olive garden
I'm kind of starting to like type erasure lol
pulsar wigeon
every type maintains its generic type info
pulsar wigeon
yes type erasure is nice cuz you can just cast anything to anything and deal with issues later :^)
upper flicker
take it back
jagged egret
@void void one tick didn't work, 20 ticks did.. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
limber knotBOT
limber knotBOT
eager nexus
jagged egret
not yet
also i'm trying to spectate an areaeffectcloud so that may have something to do with it
although historically with the mc client that should not
limber knotBOT
action.GetType().GetGenericArguments()[0].BaseType?.Name == nameof(Packet) works, lol
now I only need to cast action so that it lets me pass a Packet...
jagged egret
@void void 2 ticks works sometimes but not consistently
void void
hmm
jagged egret
my laptop has become a potato
i have no idea why
battery doesn't last at all and it freezes up a lot
latent valve
try plant it u might get food for the rest of the month
median leaf
woven otter
umm I rebased a branch but there was another branch based on it and there was a one commit. What now?
I wanted to merge it into another branch but looks like it took all commits from the old version of base branch but they are the same (well other than changes caused by rebase).
Any suggestions
jagged egret
what do y'all think of datagrip
golden gust
I basically use datagrip exclusively for mysql stuff
Saying that, that's more a "avoid the clutter" type thing
(I also run without tabs too)
woven otter
😦
golden gust
either merge or rebase that branch
jagged egret
in plugin.yml is it depend or depends
upper flicker
depend
jagged egret
oops
pure flint
jagged egret
was it changed?
woven otter
hmm cat it shows that the now merged branch is ahead by 8 commits even though I only had 1 commit in that branch and those are the previous commits
twin lagoon
"Synchronous writes
Region files are now opened in synchronous mode to prevent data loss and corruption after crash.
Dedicated servers can disable that by changing sync-chunk-writes inside server.propeties"
interesting
limber knotBOT
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twin lagoon
Attributes are now added to game registry, similar to items, sound events, etc.
Region files are now opened in synchronous mode to increase reliability
and Zoglins basically
golden gust
IO is already done on another thread in paper, but, their logic for that is just
sync mode is more just ensuring that the data is actually written out properly
should be fine, there is still some level of caching in play at a lower level
ruby knot
woven otter
maybe it would've been better to merge and then rebase 🤔 can't revert it now can I
golden gust
oh, actually... I shoulda maybe...
See, I do that in auto-pilot mode these days, rip
but, you can abuse the reflog for cases where you need to go back
git reflog will basically show you a list of commits where head was, find the commit you wanna go back to, and git reset --hard #####
woven otter
I mean with rebase I just edited the commit messages that's all. I'll check out the reflog
golden gust
oh, if you just changed the commit message, just do the merge and then rebase
woven otter
sure. how should I rebase? should I do something to those commits I changed or something else
golden gust
git rebase branchyoucamefrom
woven otter
that was my branch. Vic has been doing something else I guess
wait branchyoucamefrom is referring to the branch I'm merging into current right?
ruby breach
ashen cliff
Congrats.
limber knotBOT
Time to use IRC I guess
ashen cliff
Got to flex somehow.
vivid ivy
near vortex
blissful rune
pulsar wigeon
cuz ur a clown
limber knotBOT
oof
woven otter
https://i.imgur.com/u3GH2QN.png
hmmm what happened here 
jagged egret
this is the fastest i've ever updated mlapi 😎
limber knotBOT
a new registry for attributes, thats nice I guess
new registries are always nice
registry for mob goals next pls
goodbai ignoring new tags with via, the client now crashes if it's missing them
pulsar wigeon
client needs tags for the new ladder thing right?
limber knotBOT
yeah
tags are wonderful
you can add air to the ladder tag
we can mage players climb air :D
and can fly :D
no "Material" tags
yes we can make players climb air with nametags
ofc
jagged egret
i've somehow got a 'dev' local branch and a 'master' local branch without realizing it, how do I merge the changes on 'dev' into master?
it's been too long since i've used git lol
upper flicker
are you writing a client or a server?
ashen cliff
Both.
limber knotBOT
primarily a client right now
I use my own server for testing
thats why you dont see chunks and shit
I wrote a client + server in java earlier this week
limber knotBOT
oh because it has the dyescape texture pack
upper flicker
cool though ¯_(ツ)_/¯
limber knotBOT
was testing that earlier
ancient bolt
is it written in arnoldc?
limber knotBOT
the client looks like this right now, lol https://i.imgur.com/4o1IEb2.png
the server list is faked, but the functionality does work
I guess I could spin up a offline mode server and see if I can join
its the godot engine and I use c#
this is pretty much my whole client impl right now, lol
ancient bolt
have you heard of C#?
limber knotBOT
c# is like java
until its not
and you try to do stuff like java and it doesnt work
generics are really different in c#
ancient bolt
LINQ is dope
limber knotBOT
one might argue they are way better
upper flicker
most would
limber knotBOT
but I dont understand them yet :D
ashen cliff
I see someone iswas bored AF.
limber knotBOT
ye
but this introduces so many issue for me as a java dev
as am used to wildcard generics and shit
ancient bolt
oh yeah C# uses in and out variance
limber knotBOT
and I have no fucking clue what that is :P
and I cant really bothered to learn that right now
ancient bolt
accomplishes the same thing but in a different way, definitely tough to jump back and forth between the two mindsets
limber knotBOT
I will eventually tho
ancient bolt
That doesn't have anything..waht
limber knotBOT
c# is just what godot offers me for scripting
the alternative is c++ or their own python like gscript
so that was an easy choice
kek
woven otter
sorry cat if I may are any issues with just cherry-picking that commit since it's a single commit anyways
wicked crater
winged oak
analog prism
Can anyone recommend a "one person sleeping makes it daytime" mod, MC version 1.15.2?
Also a site where mods are collated please
woven otter
we do drugs here
left swift
Meth drugs
analog prism
Sorry, plugin
merry talon
.com
left swift
Actually don't think that's the url is it
analog prism
it's .org
analog prism
thanks gang
potent warren
MiniDigger, Naming conventions are a thing 😉 https://i.imgur.com/hIDv1dt.png
jagged egret
if the server sends a block action packet saying a piston extends, and said piston has a spawner in front of it, what would happen
potent warren
C# is not Java, so do not make it look like it is.
limber knotBOT
so I can use whatever the fuck I want, as long as I am consistent
limber knotBOT
if thats the only thing you have to contribute, you might as well just shut up
upper flicker
oh no the c# guy is here
upper flicker
good lord theyre multiplying
potent warren
lmfao
woven otter
Taco taco where's your taco
left swift
upper flicker
potent warren
100% multiplication rate rn
jagged egret
oh look it's a taco man
pulsar wigeon
two?
limber knotBOT
something is very wrong with my packet parsing and I dont see why
pulsar wigeon
i think there's a lot more than 2
jagged egret
gives taco to Z750 cuanto tiempo
limber knotBOT
"Got packet with id 0x3 and state LOGIN, len is 3"
this makes zero sense
- there is no packet with id 3 in login phase
- packet len 3 is most likely too short
potent warren
I'd say to check packet encryption, but then I remembered that you're using offline mode
limber knotBOT
the packet after that I can read as login disconnect, with reason "$9"
upper flicker
speaking of encryption nickac 👀
jagged egret
he ignored my taco
upper flicker
no I accepted it graciously
upper flicker
cant remember anything useful, but I can still remember that lol
potent warren
If I ever get a bachelor's degree, I'll add encryption to NotifSync.
Still too far
limber knotBOT
fun thing is, when I get connection throttled, I can properly read the kick
Got packet with id 0x0 and state LOGIN, len is 72
Kicked: {"translate":"Connection throttled! Please wait before reconnecting."}
and I dont get that weird login 0x3 packet
wait
there is login 0x03, its set compression
but I just ignore that
ancient bolt
C# has the worst naming conventions of all the Javas
wide chasm
Not gonna lie, sometimes when I read C# code at work I'm thinking to myself "who turned this into a class, this should clearly be a method", but then it is a method, but I'm still thinking of Java's naming conventions.
potent warren
C# has the worst naming conventions of all the Javas
Well, it's Microsoft Java, what do you expect?
They couldn't copy it 1:1
upper flicker
limber knotBOT
why would a client get kicked with $9 as reason? 🤔
jagged egret
truth
naive swan
ancient bolt
gotta pay bitch
potent warren
MiniDigger maybe you've not been a good client. Clients aren't always right!
limber knotBOT
server sends a login success if I read me debugger directly, but my client reads 0x00, not 0x02 :/
server only enables compression if I aggree to the compression, right?
potent warren
If the server is weird, don't tip it.
left swift
Server enables oppression of rights by default only an uprising turns it off
slim nymph
very well played noman
jagged egret
how many ticks does a piston take to extend/retract?
jagged egret
bukkit has the server gui in 1.15 :o
upper flicker
yes
1.15.2 they added it back
so many people were confused we have this now
.gui
limber knotBOT
The server will now show the vanilla GUI by default on supported systems. If you do not want this behavior, use the --nogui argument after -jar paperclip.jar. We are still trying to determine if this should be the default or if it should be hidden by default. Poll: https://www.strawpoll.me/19289384
potent warren
I just add nogui and it works
upper flicker
yes that one works as well
tawdry coyote
left swift
Look closer
grizzled hearth
Is github ded?
merry talon
finally
dense moss
merry talon
all hail our atlassian overlords
fallen oracle
sonic oasis
merry talon
ur bad
limber knotBOT
gh>gl>shitbucket
jagged egret
works fine for me
worn ember
ur bad
limber knotBOT
KennyTV: gitea or gtfo
void void
jagged egret
dep
void void
:(
limber knotBOT
heh
worn ember
peepeepoopoo
autumn dome
limber knotBOT
what is the next thing I should implement into my client, now that chat is kinda working?
I guess I could do the whole UI thing
jagged egret
are there blocks?
limber knotBOT
I never wrote a 3d game before
I dont even have real UI yet 😂
I got server list ping
and I can join
I need to do packet compression (I just ignore compressed shit for now, lol) and I need to work on the UI
delicate smelt
jagged egret
i need to figure out how to read and write all of the block information packets for a project so perhaps we can work together when you get to the blocks part lol
limber knotBOT
I did that in java before
https://github.com/MiniDigger/MiniCraft/blob/master/src/main/java/me/minidigger/minicraft/protocol/client/ClientPlayChunkData.java https://github.com/MiniDigger/MiniCraft/tree/master/src/main/java/me/minidigger/minicraft/model/chunk
It's hell
minicraft
what a name 😂
jagged egret
how complicated would it be to edit outbound chunk packets and add mob spawners
limber knotBOT
Chunk packets are the most complicated things in the mc protocol
depends how you go at it - edit the server, use something like protocollib, inject your own handler
At least I would say so
jagged egret
I'm going to be using ProtocolLib
limber knotBOT
server edit is probably the easiest, protocollib is unbearable
jagged egret
oh
limber knotBOT
I modify chunk packets by overriding nms.world.gettype
Lol
not that PL is bad, but for that complex case it is
jagged egret
Then I'll probably inject my own handler
limber knotBOT
then look at chunk formats at wiki vg, read the buffer accordingly. but that will also take a bit of time, just so you know :p
limber knotBOT
have fun then 😂
I think I'll try to work on UI tomorrow, and then implement moving and rendering blocks on the weekend
Without trying to read whatever the server sends yet
coral yarrow
jagged egret
where is magmaguy these days
woven otter
banned
worn ember
Everyone: lockdown
Murica: iTs cHiNA's FauLT
limber knotBOT
and still, trump's support has only risen for some reason
politics is just beyond me
worn ember
more like retarded muricans
left swift
If you make the people think you're working for them they'll follow u even to a grave
jagged egret
why was he banned
also the chunk data packet is even more fun in 1.15
it has biome data too
(separated)
jagged egret
how difficult would it be to use bytecode to modify the server so I can change the outbound chunks
i.e. be able to say, change every diamond block to an iron block
limber knotBOT
you can do a lot with fucky reflection, it being anything than ugly is something else 👀
or not reflection but bytecode manip
ancient bolt
sounds like you want protocollib
hoary kite
jagged egret
seems like reading full chunk packets in general is a nightmare
pine robin
Whats the command to killall skeleton horses? Since /killall all didnt work
mild beacon
limber knotBOT
kill @e[type=skeleton_horse] or something similar
limber knotBOT
a few years ago
pine robin
That didnt work
void void
the plugin still works perfectly though
limber knotBOT
you might be iso's saviour then if you can dig that up
pine robin
Any other commands to kill skeleton horses?
jagged egret
if that command didn't work, something is preventing it from working
i'm confused; is that a plugin you wrote?
ah noice
why not use Citizens?
has an API
uh
upper flicker
left swift
U give him too much taco he will become a taco
jagged egret
wait you gained 40!
jagged egret
o
I think I want to make a netty handler to intercept outbound chunk packets, how would I go about that
it's been like 6 months since i've done anything programmey and i can feel it lol
does buildtools not install craftbukkit anymore?
limber knotBOT
not by default, there is an argument for that
jagged egret
:( so many changesss haha
slim nymph
what do you need cb for
upper flicker
buildtools makes it but it doesnt move it to the main folder anymore
I think it still puts it in local m2 but tbh I havent used buildtools in ... a year or so now probably?
upper flicker
at least its not batch
pulsar wigeon
players are special because they are controlled by a network connection
what most people want (for npcs) is the ability to spawn a human entity, not a player
jagged egret
zAikar I use it to look at packet structures
pulsar wigeon
this is the reason citizens is such a fucking shitshow. npcs that are actual players are actual players. they throw player events, etcetc
left swift
Just pay players to be pretend npcs all day
pulsar wigeon
left swift
limber knotBOT
god tier level
crystal trench
jagged egret
pshhh it's just a warning
arctic cargo
you mean this is Normal