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wide chasm
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If you do .github.io#1.15 directly without the additional slashes, it should directly show that version.

limber knotBOT
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yeah that's rockbottom, ded

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touching your code

worn ember
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minidigger still cant form url's properly smh

limber knotBOT
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you still can't form sentences without fucking something up smh

worn ember
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i'm allowed to

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clearly my sentences are as stable as my mind

limber knotBOT
left swift
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Atleast he still pointed the people needing help to you KEKW

sacred quartz
limber knotBOT
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@wide chasm you should change it so that those urls are actually shown in the url bar when you click a version in the menu

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Else nobody will know about the anchors

delicate frigate
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Lmfao how are you shown as a bot?

limber knotBOT
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We have been sent to bot hell for we have committed sins

delicate frigate
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L

limber knotBOT
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(irc webhook)

delicate frigate
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Oh lmao

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Its funny

limber knotBOT
fast tree
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Am I correct in assuming that once a Bungee/Waterfall network is set up, being OP doesn't work the same as single spigot/paper world with regards to permissions and the ability to use commands..?

olive garden
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I'm gonna PR that Mini

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annoying stef with my issues and PRs is my favourite free-time activity

limber knotBOT
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sounds like a good cause

olive garden
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gotta give mods that special attention 😉

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I just realized calculating the count of months is hard

limber knotBOT
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just assume a month has 30.5 days and ur gud

olive garden
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what's the ? : operator called?

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I always forget its name

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thanks <3

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oh, god, even calculating the count of days is hard

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leap years exist :(

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well, they aren't handled now either, so whatever

limber knotBOT
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yea just blame stef

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Java has API for that shit

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In the duration class, get day part etc

olive garden
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right, Java == JavaScript

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I always forget that

limber knotBOT
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I have no clue how that project works internally 😂

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I just assume everything has a spring backend nowadays 😂

olive garden
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this one doesn't really work like that

void void
limber knotBOT
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Oh god

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jQuery

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My arch nemesis

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Js has similarly good libs, moment is prime for example

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But since you don't use webpack...

olive garden
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I use notepad++ to edit the webpage, do I look like I know what I'm doing?

limber knotBOT
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Don't use moment

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It's slow and bloated

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tldr use date-fns

fallen oracle
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Interesting read

void void
worn ember
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Duration class is bae

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thanks for reminding me of its existance

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@olive garden i'm sure theres 20 billion frameworks on that

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or libs or whatever

olive garden
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I don't care, this is enough webdev for a month

fallen oracle
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Lmao

worn ember
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understandable

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wouldnt wanna touch js with a stick

limber knotBOT
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If you're just slapping together a quick one page utility thing jquery and notepad are fine

heady zinc
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Webdev will be the end of us all

worn ember
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no standard will be the end of us all

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luckily its gotten a lot better over the past few years

limber knotBOT
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If you want to do any event-driven DOM manipulation, have multiple pages, or do anything that might resemble "webapps" drop that and just move straight to create-react-app

heady zinc
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I learned javascript in school during the peak of jQuery's popularity

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Our teacher strictly forbade us to use jQuery since we were learning the very basics and using it for our assignments would have been akin to calling strategic bombing on a moth.

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But this also meant that stackoverflow was a minefield.

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I've had to append -jquery to pretty much all my google searches on anything involving javascript.

worn ember
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didnt really search well then ;p

brittle dust
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do you guys know of a good voting plugin

limber knotBOT
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FeelTheBern.jar

brittle dust
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cause NUvotifer sucks

left swift
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.g voting plugin spigotmc

limber knotBOT
fallen jungle
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@heady zinc Swedish?

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wait nvm 'forbade' is an actual word

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what

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I thought it's "forbid forbid forbidden"

brittle dust
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grrr I just can't get Nuvotifier to work

heady zinc
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English gets weird with irregular verbs

brittle dust
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and I can't use just votifier sense I'm running a waterfall network

fallen jungle
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I swear 'forbade' sounds swedish

heady zinc
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Apparently that particular verb follows an Old English pattern

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So I'm guessing it's more similar to Swedish than modern English does? thonk

fallen jungle
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swedish sucks and that word sounds swedish so logically you suck

worn ember
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i always used GA listener but seems it wasnt updated since 2016

heady zinc
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no u

fallen jungle
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I'm Finnish and finnish sucks even more than swedish

heady zinc
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Are we having a "my language sucks more than yours" competition now?

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draws Bescherelle

worn ember
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laughs in dutch

fallen jungle
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dutch can't be that bad

worn ember
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well we have words that end with d, t or dt 🙂 depending on context

limber knotBOT
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we have "Stadt"

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soooo

fallen jungle
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only 3?

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in Finnish, I can conjugate every single adjective to 70+ forms

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I don't think they're all called conjugations but there are over 70 forms

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they all have unique names too

worn ember
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ok you win, your language sucks, be proud of it

heady zinc
static badge
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French pepega

worn ember
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french just sucks tho

limber knotBOT
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so does English

fallen jungle
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Noo English is fine

worn ember
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i find english a lot easier than french

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and french is my second language

limber knotBOT
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oO

fallen jungle
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English is far far easier than Finnish and Swedish

static badge
limber knotBOT
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french just sucks ass when it comes to numbers lmao

left swift
limber knotBOT
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4x20 10 is big brain speech for 90

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I'd rather stop at 2

worn ember
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quatre-vingt dix kappa quick maths

fallen jungle
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Wait is that how the french numbers work

heady zinc
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"work" is an overstatement

limber knotBOT
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quatre vingt dix huit is 98 lmao

worn ember
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quatre-vingt huit kappa quick maths

limber knotBOT
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prolly made 3 spelling errors

worn ember
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ur fine for once

limber knotBOT
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had French classes from 7 to 12th grade and barely learned anything

fallen jungle
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Except now you can do multiplication and addition in head

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plus factorization

worn ember
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i've had it since i was like 10 i think

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and i still dont understand it

fallen jungle
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is 'baguette' a french word?

heady zinc
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It is.

fallen jungle
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That's enough french for me

worn ember
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same for belgian french

limber knotBOT
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sounds less stupid

worn ember
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but we learn france french for whatever reason

limber knotBOT
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do you also have words for 70 and 80?

worn ember
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every language does lmao

limber knotBOT
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sane words* thonk

heady zinc
limber knotBOT
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lmao wot

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German is weird too though - 234 is twohundred four thirty

heady zinc
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French is also one of those languages with gendered nouns

limber knotBOT
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oh god this has become an absolute fucking mess in German in recent years

heady zinc
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With our love for rules and numerous exceptions to these rules to the point that they have their own rules and those rules have their own exceptions, you'd think that there would be a set of rules (even if horribly complicated) governing gendered nouns.

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Nope. There aren't any.

limber knotBOT
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we have 7 different ways of saying words somewhat non gendered and all of them suck

heady zinc
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Have fun guessing

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For each. And every. Word.

worn ember
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guessing? theres clearly a system except we dont follow it for 80% of cases

limber knotBOT
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The Japanese one probably makes the most sense, really

worn ember
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french in a nutshell

limber knotBOT
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I think that's how Chinese works too

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For the numbers, I mean

worn ember
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yeah they just say it in the scientific notation

limber knotBOT
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They have 0-10 then each tens place, they don't have words for anything else

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957 is 9 * 100 + 5 * 10 + 7

worn ember
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kinda funny cuz they have 100 words to say anything else

heady zinc
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That remind me of some recording of a japanese show where someone who didn't really know english had to guess the translations for some numbers.

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10, 100 and 1000 were respectively guessed as "ten", "teen" and "teeen".

limber knotBOT
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lol

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Note this is just me remembering what someone told me on IRC like 2 weeks ago, it might be full of shit :P

heady zinc
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Unfortunately for them, English doesn't allow triple letters in a row :^)

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To find that particular kind of heresy, you need to go for French words because of course we have those

tame pendant
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Without a shell: shellless

limber knotBOT
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or German, we like connected all sorts of words

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one thing English makes way cleaner by just... not

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s/connected/connecting

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Correction, <KennyTV> or German, we like connecting all sorts of words

heady zinc
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Actually shell-less specifically is written with a hyphen because of that.

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However in French, you may have to write the past participle of create in feminine form.

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Verb: créer

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Masculine past participle: créé

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Feminine past participle: créée

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Also I was wondering why clearly human people were talking with the bot tag. That's from the IRC bridge showing up as a bot, isn't it?

limber knotBOT
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yea

magic river
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No I'm a bot

limber knotBOT
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beep boop

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I joined the discord just so you guys would have my avatar when I talk on IRC :P

heady zinc
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Say, how does the bridge handle Discord usernames with spaces on the IRC end? IIRC IRC doesn't allow spaces in usernames, does it?

limber knotBOT
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just plainly in the text message

heady zinc
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I see

worn ember
heady zinc
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What about people who edit their messages on Discord?

limber knotBOT
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nothing 🤷‍♀️

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you can edit and troll us

heady zinc
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interesting

limber knotBOT
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I've been considering doing a custom theme in the lounge to make DiscordBot be hidden and pretend these messages are just normal IRC ones but I'm always too lazy to bother

heady zinc
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I didn't know bots could seamlessly appear with different names and profile pictures on the fly, though

limber knotBOT
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it's a webhook, those can

worn ember
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real hackerman bot

limber knotBOT
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Right, it's not a bot like just a headless client joining and relaying things, it's something built in to discord

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Connecting a headless client is actually against the TOS

heady zinc
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Ha

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I've been mentioning the existence of the IRC/Discord bridge on another server

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They weren't laughing when Discord went haywire a week ago.

worn ember
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well you werent either

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cuz you couldnt send your messages to the webhooks 😉

limber knotBOT
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ded invited himself again

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pf

heady zinc
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I mean I keep telling them that keeping the whole community solely on Discord is a bad bet

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That incident (along with the countless others before that) proved me right because that seriously disrupted us at the time

worn ember
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united community is better than a sharded one

heady zinc
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That's what bridges are for.

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Discord goes "I have decided that I want to die"? Retreat to the IRC server. Problem solved.

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Technically we did have a backup plan, which was a Steam group

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but Steam was down at the time as well

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conclusion: centralized platform bad

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I mean I say that but I'm not even connected to here through IRC thonk

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Time to fix that

limber knotBOT
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as long as you don't use some trashy web client like spigot's or kiwi

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Added new Crying Obsidian block! It's sad and it cries purple energy

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lol wat

worn ember
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i cry too if i had to work on minecraft all day

heady zinc
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Crying Obsidian eh? Now that one was a long time in the making.

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Which IRC client do you guys use?

limber knotBOT
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TheLounge

shy thunder
heady zinc
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looks up on Google

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node.js

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concern intensifies

worn ember
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is discord IRC?

bitter ridge
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Just wanting info, whats the purpose of a Towny server?

worn ember
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whats the purpose of a faction server?

pulsar wigeon
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Biome fog color smoothly blends between biomes. Smooth
eyyy they fixed the rave party

limber knotBOT
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noice

bitter ridge
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I know the purpose of factions, but not Towny

worn ember
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well its literally the same but just a different system i suppose

bitter ridge
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ah thanks

worn ember
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could always go read their wiki

limber knotBOT
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ah great now we have "zombified piglin" but "zombie villager"

heady zinc
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From what I understand Towny is more hierarchized than Factions

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As in people could be part of the same nation but not the same town

worn ember
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^^

limber knotBOT
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heh you can now make clients climb literally any block you want with a new blocktag

pulsar wigeon
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that's nice

limber knotBOT
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or the other way around, prevent them from climbing ladders for example :D

pulsar wigeon
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wait, blocktag?

limber knotBOT
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ehh tags

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that contain block ids

worn ember
pulsar wigeon
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oh weird ok

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so not specific blocks, but types of blocks

heady zinc
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So conflicts on a Faction server would be more straighforward ("you had resources that a more powerful faction lacked so they murderdeathkilled you" vs "a town on the other side of the nation was forced to defect by another nation, prompting your nation to call in its allies to war so the town next to you belonging to yet another nation is now sending TNT bombers at you")

pulsar wigeon
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wait does that mean tags are synced to client

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oh, datapacks are right

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what happens if the client refuses a datapack

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does it just...not get the memo about what blocks are or aren't climbale

limber knotBOT
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sucks then I suppose

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lol

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pretty much

worn ember
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that sounds very exploitable

limber knotBOT
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pretty much

pulsar wigeon
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i mean, movement is already almost completely clientside

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spider hacks aint new

hard viper
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Its not datapack i guess

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Its a define tags pacjet

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Packet

worn ember
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i remember spidering up the walls of a church on my friends server, good times

hard viper
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So you cant deny it

pulsar wigeon
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ooh ok

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didn't realize that was separate

ebon kiln
heady zinc
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So I looked up TheLounge

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Sounds like something you can install on some machine on a local network and use it as a webapp wherever else on that network? thonk

pulsar wigeon
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i mean you can just run it locally if you really want

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but yea it's meant to be a bouncer of sorts too

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which is cool cuz usually people have to have znc or so installed on their server somewhere and then connect whatever other clients to that

heady zinc
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So I could throw it on a random all purpose server and use it to keep an history even when I'm not there?

limber knotBOT
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yep

pulsar wigeon
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that's the point of irc bouncers yea

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stays connected at all times

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even if your client isn't

heady zinc
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I'll check it out at some point

limber knotBOT
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In the meantime, hi

worn ember
unreal quarry
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Eww, the irc infection is spreading again

worn ember
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its corona all over again

fallen jungle
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At least we have a bridge that we can burn down if need be

worn ember
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blow up the bridges

limber knotBOT
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You make comparisons to diseases as if centralized platforms weren't the ones encroaching on the Internet like cancer.

worn ember
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yeah must cuz centralization is so so bad that everyone uses discord over irc 🙂

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change the votifier port on the servers?

limber knotBOT
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You know damn well why this is happening.

worn ember
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cuz its 2020?

limber knotBOT
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People flock to the latest platform with fancy features out of convenience, platform eventually turns to shit, people panic, then jump ship to whatever new platform took its place with swathes of content being lost in the process. Rinse and repeat.

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This happened to Windows Live Messenger. It's currently happening to Skype. It will happen to Discord.

worn ember
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sure, and i'm find with that, if something better comes out why would i stick to it?

limber knotBOT
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But one thing stays constant: IRC.

pulsar wigeon
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.xkcd irc

limber knotBOT
pulsar wigeon
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no not that one

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) xkcd: Team Chat (6 January 2017)

worn ember
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lol

limber knotBOT
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there are plenty of relevant xkcd comics for that situation.

pulsar wigeon
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.xkcd meta

limber knotBOT
worn ember
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why use a smartphone when clearly flipphones will always stay a thing

limber knotBOT
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That's completely different and you know that.

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Besides.

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The Galaxy Fold.

pulsar wigeon
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flip/slide phones aren't about the form factor

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they're about the physical interface

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eg a real keyboard vs a digital one

worn ember
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Not really, its pretty much the same thing, you're just one of those guys that cant accept change, which is fine by me but dont go bashing other platforms cuz you dont care to see the benifit

brittle dust
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can someone help me out with this votigier thing

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votifier*

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cause it's just not workin

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working*

pulsar wigeon
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the foldable phones that are being developed are still purely digital interfaces

worn ember
pulsar wigeon
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not really sure what the goal of them is tbh

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besides novelty of course

worn ember
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yeah i mean, its just a WIP at this point

limber knotBOT
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Oh, I'm perfectly fine with change, if I wasn't I sure as hell wouldn't have been studying IT.

worn ember
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give it time to see if it goes anywhere

ember crag
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Dunno. My gf still laments the death of the sliding keyboard to this day.

limber knotBOT
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But since you want to reference xkcd, here's one to ponder.

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.xkcd 743

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(Onceuponaban) xkcd: Simple Answers (11 November 2013) | http://xkcd.com/1289

pulsar wigeon
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that's not how the bot works

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lmao

ember crag
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Her favorite phone ever was the original Motorola Droid.

limber knotBOT
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Yeah that's not the one I wanted to link to.

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.xkcd Infrastructures

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(Onceuponaban) xkcd: Infrastructures (21 May 2010) | http://xkcd.com/743

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there we go.

shy thunder
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i think the foldable phones are just another gimmick

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they need to do something new

pulsar wigeon
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idk how that's relevant

worn ember
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

pulsar wigeon
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one of the most popular irc clients ever is closed source freemiumish

limber knotBOT
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Better battery life is one of the big ones since manufacturers have been stuck in their inane "make the phone as thin as possible to the expense of everything else" race.

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IRC itself is a perfectly open protocol though.

worn ember
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as of most protocols

pulsar wigeon
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i don't get the point tbh

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not sure how this follows

unreal quarry
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As an irc user since 1997, I can assure you, it's not as great as people make it out to be

limber knotBOT
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If said client suddenly vanished from the side of the Earth, that would absolutely not prevent anyone to do whatever they want with the protocol.

worn ember
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i tried to use it, see what it was all about, took me like 15 minutes to figure out how to even join a server, so i just gave up and went back to discord

ember crag
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What I hated the most about irc is having to use a bouncer to have semi-persistent message history.

limber knotBOT
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Microsoft closing the WLM servers though? Platform immediately dies.

pulsar wigeon
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i mean, if discord suddenly vanished it wouldn't prevent anyone from moving to anything else either

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you're conflating "open source/open protocol" with "self-hosted solution"

limber knotBOT
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Discord is having issues? Well, hope your community wasn't solely based on their Discord server because if so, they're stranded.

worn ember
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yeah for max 2 hours till its back up

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not the end of the world

pulsar wigeon
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imagine your fucking email provider shuts down

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lmao

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this isn't really new

unreal quarry
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2 hours? I've never seen it out for more than 2 minutes

limber knotBOT
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Yeah, that would be a problem wouldn't it?

worn ember
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well i think the last outage was the longest

pulsar wigeon
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meh, it's had some hour+ stints tbh

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i mean you can blame cloudflare/gcp whatever

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i mean, to be completely clear, i'm not saying discord is better than irc or vice versa

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i think everything is trash

fallen jungle
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Then I'll do that for you

pulsar wigeon
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i just don't think irc is a magical solution that you're making it out to be

unreal quarry
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Discord is better, hands down

worn ember
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wiz just hates everything equally

pulsar wigeon
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discord is more feature rich

fallen jungle
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I too have tried irc and had a similar experience to DarkEyeDragon

pulsar wigeon
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the interface is lacking, the software is bloated, etc imo

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but like, there's custom discord clients too

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obviously not to the extent that irc has

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both because it's newer and because the tos stance on it

worn ember
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technically against ToS tho

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yeah

unreal quarry
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It's only illegal if you get caught

worn ember
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which is a shame

pulsar wigeon
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:^)

limber knotBOT
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I'm not saying Discord is the panacea that will elevate us all to a higher plane of existence either.

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All I'm saying is.

pulsar wigeon
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honestly wtf are you saying

limber knotBOT
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Relying solely on Discord, just like any other centralized platform is a bad bet.

pulsar wigeon
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irc is centralized too you know

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ever heard of a netsplit?

worn ember
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well we still have plenty other social media, that doesnt even require a client

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in the unlikely event discord were to suddenly vanish of the earth

unreal quarry
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You want to know why discord is better? Discord brought together more people in just 3 years than irc ever did in it's 30+ year history

pulsar wigeon
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like yea, if spigot irc goes down we can head over to esper

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but that doesn't solve all the communities relying on spigot irc

unreal quarry
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If that's not success and superiority, ifk wtf is

limber knotBOT
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It's nowhere near as centralized as Discord where the company that makes the client has full control over all servers.

fallen jungle
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As somebody who never got to using IRC, can somebody explain what's so good about it?

olive garden
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you also have to set up your own message cache / history when using IRC or rely on some 3rd party or idk

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if you ask me, being able to access not just the most recent messages is very important

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most servers send you the last few messages, but that's not enough

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tbh I have no idea how any of this works, so I will just shut up

limber knotBOT
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That is server dependant, yeah

fallen jungle
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Does IRC have a friend system like Discord?

pulsar wigeon
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it has DMs

limber knotBOT
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But that's the thing. You can own an IRC server and make it do whatever the hell you want.

worn ember
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people on IRC don't have friends dab

pulsar wigeon
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your client can like...save a friends list or whatever

fallen jungle
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Eyy IRC was created by a Finn

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Now I have a reason to be proud about it

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But still Discord rules

unreal quarry
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For real, tho. There's nothing special about irc. I've been using it for over 20 years. Been banned from entire networks like BIRC. I've run my own networks. I still use some today, but not for much anymore. Anyone trying to claim it's superior to other is just trying to sound like a geek/nerd or something because of the stigma surrounding irc. Ooohhh, he's an irc user, must be smart

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Smfh

pulsar wigeon
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🧂

fallen jungle
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The smartest of all are the people who run irc on arch linux :^)

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and watch rick and morty

limber knotBOT
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[insert the "To be fair..." copypasta here]

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"Biome fog color smoothly blends between biomes. Smooth!"

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they heard me

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wooo

fallen jungle
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Ay yes

worn ember
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how smooth tho

fallen jungle
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Did they fix the blue flame?

olive garden
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do we still have that video?

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Mini, was it your video?

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that showcases how fucked up fogs were in the first snapshot

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I want to get epilepsy again lol

worn ember
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my renderdistance is always so far out i dont even see fog

limber knotBOT
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uuff

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Blindly fanboying over any piece of technology is a recipe for failure. I'm fully aware that IRC has flaws. That doesn't detract from my point that the centralization of the Internet has some seriously bad sides and that Discord is contributing to it.

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oh we having an irc debate?

olive garden
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yes

limber knotBOT
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irc > dumcord

olive garden
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thx for your quality input

limber knotBOT
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see, someone sees the light

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just use thelounge and you have everything you need

unreal quarry
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Yup, the lounge. Because normal irc clients don't have everything you need. ;)

limber knotBOT
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I just want a client I can do whatever the fuck I want with without fearing to be reporting for breaching some kind of tos

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why isnt it a normal client? ;)

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how do you define normal client?

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because node.js

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because it has a server component?

unreal quarry
#

Something that's not a bouncer

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Lol

limber knotBOT
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ohh, 20w08a added a climbable tag

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I wonder what happens if you add random stuff to that tag 🤔

unreal quarry
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:o

limber knotBOT
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walks on dirt block

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teleported to the End

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how does one write datapacks? 🤔

wide chasm
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climbing on air

unreal quarry
#

That makes me wonder if they fixed climbing stuff bypasses cramming rule

golden wyvern
ancient mica
limber knotBOT
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heh

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works

latent valve
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discord seem slow af for me

limber knotBOT
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but only for blocks you can walk thru

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discord is always slow

pulsar wigeon
#

ah, so you can't walk up the side of solid blocks

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rip

wide chasm
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You should try making air climbable

pulsar wigeon
#

👀

limber knotBOT
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😂

pulsar wigeon
#

that would be quite something

limber knotBOT
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😂

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works

pulsar wigeon
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wew

latent valve
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air climbable HAX

pulsar wigeon
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hax

wide chasm
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New game type: cave air is climbable, but normal air isn't, make a map with those and good luck getting to the end

pulsar wigeon
#

oooo

unreal quarry
#

Inb4 climbable item frames holding custom models blocks to look like fancy ladders or something

pulsar wigeon
#

that sounds good

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invisible parkour

limber knotBOT
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I love tags

pulsar wigeon
#

item frames are entities tho

unreal quarry
#

Damn

latent valve
#

ban!

wide chasm
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Nice

pulsar wigeon
#

that's pretty fluid too nice

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i guess you don't have to deal with hitbox issues like ladders

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since yknow...the hitbox of air is the full block

limber knotBOT
#

sugar cane is nice

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how do datapacks work on a server?

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do I need to send the client stuff?

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or can I just hack the tags via code and it will work?

wide chasm
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I think you just dump it in the world folder

limber knotBOT
pulsar wigeon
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shevchik said tags are synced via packet

limber knotBOT
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tags packet, yes

pulsar wigeon
#

so shouldn't need to be client side

limber knotBOT
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so i can do it via code, nice

worn ember
#

Mini what's that footsteps thing? Is that an accessibility thing?

limber knotBOT
#

ye

worn ember
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Pretty cool

limber knotBOT
#

show subtitles

pulsar wigeon
#

mini is hard of hearing

limber knotBOT
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I hate mc sounds, but I need to check sound stuff

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to make sure sounds dont leak a phase/instance

worn ember
#

Static noise from rain really triggers me

ancient mica
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Where I can have a link for invite a friend please?

limber knotBOT
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cared to look in #welcome?

wide chasm
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MC has pretty good sound/music options tbh. I think you can lower rain sound without affecting much else.

pulsar wigeon
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luckily weather has its own volume slider

worn ember
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Master off works too :)

wide chasm
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Whatever floats your boat 🙂

limber knotBOT
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You can even control the volume of friendly mobs separately

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...which apparently includes minecarts

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minecarts are very friendly!

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haha, it even works on a powered rail

pulsar wigeon
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until they try to eat you

worn ember
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If they don't try to kill you they good

limber knotBOT
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TNT minecarts would like to know your location

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it just wants to hug you

worn ember
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It can but only with consent

limber knotBOT
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how dare you take away tnt's right to hug you

worn ember
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;o what about my rights!!

limber knotBOT
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that's umm... hey look, a pink duck!

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runs

worn ember
#

Rood

wary pagoda
void void
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i have never been in a fucking discord server that pings more often than Vuetify

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Fucking annoying twats

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John Leider can go shove a huge dick in his ass

pulsar wigeon
#

wut

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turn off pings?

void void
#

Tbh I was just waiting for a reason to leave that disc anyway

pulsar wigeon
#

everyone/here can always be turned off

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unless like, you're getting an individual mention

worn ember
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just shows the annoying pingglare tho

void void
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oh yea, i have those off

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but the notif shows up

pulsar wigeon
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oh, really

void void
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and i gotta scroll and click the msg

pulsar wigeon
#

ok, discord just shows how retarded it is yet again

worn ember
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i mean, it makes sense, but there should also been an option to disable that

void void
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but yea i dont plan to use his stupid vuetify framework anyway. like i said john leider can go shove a huge dick in his ass and oof finally i am free from his incessant pinging

worn ember
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either globar or per server (which would be better)

pulsar wigeon
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wait one sec

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i'm confused, i don't think i see the unread marker for everyone pings?

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cuz i'm in some servers that use everyone pings for announcements and i don't get indicators

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maybe some combination of having shit muted idk

void void
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hmm

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well idek, i thought i had server mute selected

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but im not rejoining to test, fucc that serbur

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oh you have to "Suppress" them as well as server mute

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mkay..

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smh

pulsar wigeon
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ah, that must be it yea

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i am pretty thorough with muting and hiding shit

void void
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then imagine him pinging you 4 times a day about stupid shit you dont care about

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like "update tomorrow!"

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"update 15 mins!"

pulsar wigeon
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.-.

void void
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"super excited to go live in amsterdam!"

pulsar wigeon
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that's some dum shit

worn ember
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i think he already ripped his own hair out

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Amsterdam thonk so he's a dutch

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that explains a lot

void void
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no he's not

worn ember
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he looks like Stef's dad

void void
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he's murican who gave a presentation at the vue conference which was in netherlands the other day

pulsar wigeon
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go live in
sounds like some talk/conference there

void void
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i only know because he PINGED ME A OBUT IT

pulsar wigeon
#

yea

void void
worn ember
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lmao

olive garden
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@void void that sucks

pulsar wigeon
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oops

worn ember
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lmfao

pulsar wigeon
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reflex ¯_(ツ)_/¯

void void
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what reflex tHONK

worn ember
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show him

olive garden
void void
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ah

worn ember
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wb trig, missed you already 💦

limber knotBOT
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I need a big ass qhd 21:9 display

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what would you guys recommend?

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budget is like 700 euro I guess

void void
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why not go uhd at that point

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😂

limber knotBOT
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cause das expensive

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and 1440 is enough res anyways

worn ember
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whats it for?

limber knotBOT
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if you go 4k, you go 150% scaling anyways

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gaming and dev stuff

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basically replacing my main 32 inch monitor

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I got two 27 inch ones at the sides

worn ember
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rich boi much

void void
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this looks not bad but i havent used it, i've just got some ultrawide 1080s lol (3x 2560x1080)
LG - 34UM88-P

limber knotBOT
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meh, that main 32 inch display was my first ever tv

worn ember
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MSI for ultra gaming

limber knotBOT
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I want something that looks decent

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so LG or dell I guess

worn ember
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oof haha

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samsung has some nice displays as well imo

limber knotBOT
worn ember
limber knotBOT
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it is able to display 99% of the colors of the srgb color space

void void
worn ember
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ah ok

unborn radish
olive garden
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Finally!

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God, I was basically muted for 10 minutes

limber knotBOT
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they dont have a new comparable one

olive garden
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I actually had to get work done, can you imagine that?

void void
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wow

pulsar wigeon
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rekt

unborn radish
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can i ask a quick stupid question about paper here?

void void
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.ask

limber knotBOT
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If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

pulsar wigeon
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you just did

olive garden
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What's this? Why doesn't he have to wait for 10 minutes?

worn ember
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next plz

limber knotBOT
unborn radish
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does paper support mods

olive garden
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Is it because I'm from Central Europe?

pulsar wigeon
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idk trigary that shit is fuked honestly

void void
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I hope this coronavirus shit calms down soon...bc I have to layover 12 hours in Tokyo

pulsar wigeon
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no ron

void void
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no it does not

worn ember
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no

unborn radish
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ok thx

void void
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use sponge for mods + plugins

worn ember
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silly weasley

unborn radish
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sponge isnt working for me

worn ember
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tends to happen

void void
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well, go to sponge support they have a discord

#

we are paper

limber knotBOT
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and THIS IS SPARTA

unborn radish
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yes paper seems so much better so i figured id hit this up

void void
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if you go mod-less and just decide to use plugins (which can do a lot btw...)

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then yes

worn ember
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well they're 2 completely different things

void void
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paper is +1

unborn radish
#

yes

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paper is good but for now im doing mods but thank you guys

worn ember
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tbh, if you're going modded, just get mods that add functionality that "plugins" do

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is there such a thing as server only mods? i assume so right?

limber knotBOT
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a freind was on vacation in tokyo

unborn radish
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im getting mods like tinkers construct, refined storage, and extra utils i dont think any plugins do that

limber knotBOT
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now he is on two weeks paid leave 😂

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cause his boss is scared 😂

worn ember
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corona lmfao

limber knotBOT
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now I wanna go to tokyo too

void void
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well im only laying over there 12 hrs

limber knotBOT
#

but my boss already told me to fuck off, he would just order me to go to homeoffice 😂

void void
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but ima get a mask i think if shit doesnt chill

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im staying in the airport, not going out

pulsar wigeon
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man have you guys seen the preppers

worn ember
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doomsday preppers?

limber knotBOT
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we have the first case in my state now

worn ember
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bet they're going haywire now

limber knotBOT
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~30 km from me

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its fun

void void
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we got some cases here in california now

limber knotBOT
#

ppl are so stupid

pulsar wigeon
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there was some post on reddit about the WHO warning about pandemic and shit

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the the comments were full of preppers talking about how they stocked up on weeks of supplies and shit

void void
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lol

limber knotBOT
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buying masks that are useless, since they dont protect you, they only protect others if you are infected

worn ember
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its about as dangerous as the flue lmfao

unborn radish
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corona only has an rnot of like 2.4 and its just a little worse than the cold its fine guys

void void
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well, if i cant breathe in the bodily fluids

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then i consider myself protected

limber knotBOT
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but you gotta touch everything

void void
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yeah but it's airborne

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and i dont have open cuts

worn ember
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mouth masks wont save you from that

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unless they're fully covering

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which normal ones arent

pulsar wigeon
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i mean, the real joke is that these people are planning on locking themselves in their house for weeks living off canned food and stuff

unborn radish
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so when you sneeze make sure your facing a crowd thinksmart

worn ember
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pharmacies are bought out here of masks, and it was even in the news that they dont help shit lmfao

pulsar wigeon
#

but still get masks as if they're going to go out/be exposed to contagious vectors?

void void
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the flat kind, no

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n95*

golden gust
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Well, ofc the news is gonna tell you that the masks are cheaper

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big pharma know that meds cost more /s

void void
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but fuck it maybe ill just go buy a gas mask and a superfluous amount of filters dealwithit

limber knotBOT
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just don't breathe, case closed.

unreal quarry
#

It's so windy out today that my beard is whistling/hissing

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:o

worn ember
#

maybe its the rodents 😉

pulsar wigeon
#

you sure it's not just your ears

unreal quarry
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Nah, it's the beard. Coworker looked at me like "wtf"

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So he heard it too

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Lmao

pulsar wigeon
#

weird

worn ember
#

its becoming sentient

pulsar wigeon
#

wonder how much it takes

golden gust
#

based upon the existence of leaf

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2

pulsar wigeon
#

we talking about his brain cell count

golden gust
#

yes

limber knotBOT
#

of billy or his beard?

worn ember
#

death rate on corona is only 2% so far

limber knotBOT
#

only

worn ember
#

compared to other pandemics thats low

pulsar wigeon
#

tbh i think it's less about the death rate and more about the contagious-ness?

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is that a word

worn ember
#

SARS was 9.6 and MERS was 34% lul

pulsar wigeon
#

like, 2% seems small but then if it infects millions of people that's a lot of dead people

limber knotBOT
#

^

worn ember
#

yes, Swine flue only killed 0.02% but it cost a lot of people their life

limber knotBOT
#

guide to corona: dont be older than 65

worn ember
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cuz it was widespread

unreal quarry
#

Only 2%, but it's already killed more than SARS

limber knotBOT
#

I dont give a shit about a virus that kills old ppl 😂

golden gust
#

It's basically your typical flu, just, hella contagous

worn ember
#

flue kills old people too

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not my issue

pulsar wigeon
#

yea, SARS affected like what, 10s of thousands at most?

limber knotBOT
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it's only okay if it affects german conservatives, mini

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we have too many old ppl anyways

pulsar wigeon
#

wasn't super contagious to every random person travelling through

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etc

limber knotBOT
#

rigging our elections and shit like that

golden gust
#

the outbreak of it is pretty fast to what I'm getting, which is like... yea... But, otherwise, unless you're already fucked, doesn't seem like you're likely to die from it

worn ember
#

rip people with aids

pulsar wigeon
#

whelp, the sars thing 17 years ago was apparently just ~8500 cases

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coronavirus is already up to a million or so

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sooooo yea

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if that tells you anything

worn ember
#

@woven otter what was that video again about the diseases graphs and shit?

unreal quarry
#

Rip anti vaxxers' kids, more like it, dragon

worn ember
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those are fucked anyway

pulsar wigeon
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yea if corona doesn't get em the rusty nail on the playground will

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runs

worn ember
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) How does Coronavirus compare to Ebola, SARS, etc? - length 10m 3s - 38,874 likes, 1,330 dislikes (96.7%) - 1,293,097 views - Abacaba on 2020.02.12

worn ember
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pretty good visualisation

static badge
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Looks super contagious tbh

limber knotBOT
#

inb4 when cancer can easily be cured: we don't want treatment for our child, it's just harmless cancer that would never come up anyways

worn ember
#

swine flu was way more contagious

static badge
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It will happen

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You know it kenny

limber knotBOT
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and it already makes me sad

static badge
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Back in my day the solution to anti vaxxers was to let them get infected

limber knotBOT
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accidentally cough in their general direction

olive garden
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I don't know much about biology, but I don't think there will be cancer vaccines, at least those vaccines won't work like today's vaccines do at all

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but I am missing the point I guess, good joke!

pulsar wigeon
#

back in my day we left people like leaf in dumpsters as babies

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runs

worn ember
#

sounds like old germany

olive garden
#

Taygetus, is that you?

static badge
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Back in my day all we had was /give

limber knotBOT
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and toomanyitems

static badge
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No worldedit no problems

left swift
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cuboid

pulsar wigeon
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worldedit's been around since hmod

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when was your day

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did vanilla even have /give before then

worn ember
#

you're more likely to die from domestic violence than corona lmfao

left swift
#

for now

worn ember
#

dun dun dunnn

pulsar wigeon
#

yea but imagine accidentally getting wrapped up by your blanket

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damn that's fukin scary

worn ember
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lmfao

left swift
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"accidental suffocation/strangulation in bed" some people got some weird ass kinks

pulsar wigeon
#

2 people per day?

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that's no fukin joke dude

worn ember
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how do you even do that

void void
#

that usually happens to babies

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they roll over and can't roll back over

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they suffocate

worn ember
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yeah well natural selection

left swift
#

you sleep on your arms weird and they fall asleep, then you get stuck face down in the bed and you're encased by the evil blankets,

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they start choking you of air as you try to figure out where you arms went

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but in the end

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blankets won

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and u ded

worn ember
#

i sleep face down every night, and look how i turned out pepega

void void
#

jfc

pulsar wigeon
#

what the fuk even

#

that graphic tho lefbad

worn ember
#

would that be considered cheating?

left swift
void void
#

"hold on let me just...turn my brain up"

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puts on headset

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"there, now im ready. exam plz"

olive garden
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@worn ember it's proof that natural selection doesn't work

void void
#

trigary, what

worn ember
#

he means that i'm still alive

olive garden
#

we like to joke about how stupid DED is
he sleeps face down, but hasn't suffocated

worn ember
#

i havent broken a single bone in my life, so i cant be that retarded

left swift
#

rolled 20 in luck

worn ember
#

and i used to dig tunnels in dirt mountains and throw dirt "rocks" at my friends in our little fantasy war

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good times, almost cost one an eye tho

left swift
#

maybe ur a lizardman in a human suit

#

have u tried peeling ur skin off?

worn ember
#

oh and driving down a gocart without breaks down a forest hill

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that didnt end well for one of us tho xD dude was in the hospital for 2 days

#

hit a tree

lunar cipher
worn ember
#

@left swift actually i do have skin issues thonkeng i'm literally allergic to water so i dont think i'd be a good lizardman

left swift
#

sounds lizard-y to me

olive garden
#

how does that even work?

worn ember
#

i get rash from sitting in a shower or bath too long

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nothing harmful, just annoying

olive garden
#

can you like, swim?

worn ember
#

yeah, but i never do cuz its annoying

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not a big fan of water anyway

olive garden
#

I mean do you get rashes from swimming as well?

oak ivy
worn ember
#

yeah

olive garden
#

ouch :/

worn ember
#

might be the chlorine or something, not sure

left swift
#

do u swim in something that isn't water trig

worn ember
#

but it happens when sweating too

pulsar wigeon
#

i mean, lizards aren't amphibians, they're reptiles

#

so dunno why the water thing would be a problem

#

they like sunbathing on rocks, not swimming

olive garden
#

have you ever swam in the sea?

worn ember
#

yeah

pulsar wigeon
#

completely different shit js

left swift
#

wiz is also a lizardman

pulsar wigeon
#

nah, am martian

worn ember
#

wiz is more like pasta

#

hard when opened but soft once you cook it

left swift
#

and starchy

pulsar wigeon
#

but carbs :\

worn ember
#

i've commited more to random projects and random plugins than my school projects the last few weeks PepeHands

#

tbh i still got like a month or so and only need to do the GUI stuff

#

JavaFX is ez pz

olive garden
#

GUI is pure cancer though

unreal quarry
#

Leave my gui alone

#

:(

olive garden
#

I meant developing GUI

#

yours is good

worn ember
#

the gui is already made, i just have to link the buttons to the right actions and code lol

#

Billy is ur console thingy made in FX too?

unreal quarry
#

No, swing

worn ember
#

yikes

pulsar wigeon
#

it's just modified from the vanilla one

#

not a brand new one lol

unreal quarry
#

I ignore fx now that it's modularized and not standard

worn ember
#

oh i know that, but not like i know what the original was made in

pulsar wigeon
#

"I if ore fx now"

#

wut

#

oh

worn ember
#

i think i like javafx more tho ;n;

unreal quarry
#

Fat fingering my phone, wiz

pulsar wigeon
#

FX is the WPF of java peepoJuice

#

winforms still king

worn ember
#

i like WPF too

pulsar wigeon
#

ur wrong

worn ember
unreal quarry
#

Swing ain't so bad, tbh.

pulsar wigeon
#

lul

worn ember
#

i'm a pro grammer thats why my server launcher in WPF has a full 8stars on github dab

unreal quarry
#

Look up my gui I made for pl3xicons plugin. It's swing, too

worn ember
#

gimmi ur github i'll follow you

unreal quarry
#

.g pl3xicons youtube

olive garden
#

.g pl3xicons gui

limber knotBOT
unreal quarry
#

Gui is like half way thru

worn ember
#

marriage reloaded

#

hold up

#

how'd you get them icons in the chat

#

are they just remapped unicode chars or something?

#

or whatver you call it

unreal quarry
#

Texturepack changing chinese fonts

worn ember
#

ah damn

twin lagoon
#

what the fuck is that desktop environment billy

#

it's like going back to 2011

worn ember
#

its from 2016 lul

unreal quarry
#

Probably openbox

#

Idr

#

Or fluxbox

worn ember
#

i was thinking of making a minecraft mod that lets you chat in discord and stuff and support their emoji's then realized its probably not worth the hassle getting the icons to work and just kinda dropped it

unreal quarry
#

Might even be xfde

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Lol

twin lagoon
#

don't think it's any of those

unreal quarry
#

Yeah, it's a pain, dragon

twin lagoon
#

might be lxde or something

worn ember
#

i mean, i suppose i could do it now since Image Utils lets you view images ingame and stuff. But i'd pretty much have to rewrite the whole chat system

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and i'm bad with code (if you havent seen already)

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Chat icons and emojis - length 24s - 4 likes, 0 dislikes (100.0%) - 264 views - Pl3x Gaming on 2017.10.14

unreal quarry
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Was a forge mod I was working on and got bored with

fallen oracle
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Fancy

worn ember
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did you do the same trick there?

unreal quarry
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No, that's a forge client mod

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Was able to make neater edits

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No texturepacks

worn ember
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do you have the source still?

unreal quarry
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Doubt it

worn ember
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sad noises

unreal quarry
fallen oracle
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100%

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That's why I can't get the solid design for the ball cleavage shorts yet

unreal quarry
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Lmao

fallen jungle
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That is me with 100% of my stuff too

worn ember
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my dad with our house

fallen jungle
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I've probably finished like 3 programming projects in my lifetime

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Meaning I have nothing to put on a CV

wide chasm
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"Alright let me do this project"
"Actually this project requires Y which could be very useful if made standalone"
"Y actually needs my earlier project, but we can modularize that, so we can release it as Z and then just mkae Y depend on Z"
"Wait, but then..."

fallen oracle
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So I basically did that and now I'm trying to revert some of it and write my own stuff.

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Like I realized I had a solid 2MB of excess libs in my projects for a few methods that I could've easily written myself.

fallen jungle
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At least you use libraries

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I rarely if ever even think of using libraries

worn ember
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hold up

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you can ride boats on ice??

fallen jungle
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Try blue ice

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There's a collection of tracks for ice boating

fallen oracle
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For example I was able to drop commons collections 4 that I was using for a single method and used something built into guava.

wide chasm
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Needs to add one tiny command
"Let me grab ACF"

fallen oracle
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Okay but I do that

fallen jungle
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I'm too lazy to figure out how libraries work to do that 😅

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I have a specific few that I'm already familiar with so there's nothing to read up on

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I just yesterday added a library for fractions on my Rust project and I already regret it

fallen oracle
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I've been able to drop about 4MB total so far. Going to try to drop another 500Kb or so

pulsar wigeon
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what the fuck even

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4MB!!!!

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that's the size of worldedit with all our optional libs

stiff yarrow
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library abuse 👀

worn ember
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i got from 2MB to 333KB because maven

wide chasm
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My largest plugin in size is only 1.9MB so far.

worn ember
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it shaded in my local jars lol

fallen jungle
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I wonder what's the smallest possible Windows executable

worn ember
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0kb

pulsar wigeon
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a blank file with a .com or .bat extension

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:^)

worn ember
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^^

fallen jungle
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Compiling this C project:

int main() {
  return 0;
}```
with release mode and no RTTI gives a 97 KB executable with Clang and GCC
pulsar wigeon
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yea that's obv gonna give a lot extrea

fallen jungle
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I doubt 99% of that is unnecessary

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but too bad

pulsar wigeon
fallen jungle
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I hex'd the contents and there are like "Monday" "Tuesday" "Wednesday" "Thursday" "Friday" "Saturday" "Sunday" "Mon" "Tue" "Wed"...

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Like sure my app definitely needs string forms of every weekday in order to work

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Also dang that SO thread is actually useful

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I couldn't find the 64-bit executable header layout anywhere

ember crag
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More importantly, why aren't they just doing a substring of the long form at runtime for days of the week?

pulsar wigeon
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localization possibly

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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really depends on why that's in there in the first place

ember crag
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Well, looks like UPS won't be delivering my new laptop before I have to leave for work. Need to go change the garage code so the neighbor can sign for the delivery and put it in there.

fallen jungle
north rock
cloud slate
woven otter
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yrs

modest sphinx
unborn radish
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so how is everybodys day

worn ember
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slept for about 4 hours, have a headache and math is confusing

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so great

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wbu?

unborn radish
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pretty great i got a 5 day weekend that started today so life is pretty dope

unreal quarry
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Nice

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I have a 4 day weekend every week, so I know the feeling ;)

unborn radish
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i alternate 3 and 4 every week

worn ember
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nice

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i got all week off

unreal quarry
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My job crams 40 hours into 3 days. Didn't sound appealing at first, but these 4 day weekends make it soooo worth it

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Get it done early in the week so I can do whatever the hell I want for the rest ^_^

limber knotBOT
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imagine having only a 40 hour week, sound sweet

unreal quarry
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Indeed it is. Took a few tries, but finally found one ^_^

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Last job was 60-70 hour weeks

limber knotBOT
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it's normal here in germany, lol

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i've got 30 hour weeks and am also a full time student so i'm living right now

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and if you have to work more you need to get compensated for it

unreal quarry
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Job before that was 7 days of 12s. Did 2 months of that before I noped on out of there lol

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And I'm not talking easy peasy office jobs. I do manual labor/plant work :S

limber knotBOT
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yeah my 30 hours are technical theatre which is probably not on that level but also not an office job

unreal quarry
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Previous job I was making steel I-beams, fun job, but rough

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Current job I run a printing press, bit easier, but fast paced

ember crag
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I have 40 hour weeks most of the time.

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But overtime is unpredictable and often short notice.

unreal quarry
ember crag
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The joys of "just in time" manufacturing.

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Nice.

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I used to be a tech in injection molding. Had small 90 ton presses all the way up to 1600 ton vertical multi colors.

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Transferred out to assembly department. Smaller machines, but more troubleshooting.

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Tons clamping force, not machine weight.

unreal quarry
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Honestly, I'm supposed to have OT every week. I just happen to be faster than the previous workers. By a lot. I'm currently on April's schedule

ember crag
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The 1600 ton weighs about 50 tons or so.

unreal quarry
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So, no OT for me, which I'm fine with. I hate OT

ember crag
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Same.

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I carefully budget to survive on 32 hours leaving my other 8 hours a week as fun money.

unreal quarry
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I don't really budget. I should lol

ember crag
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I don't go spreadsheet crazy or anything, but I have a rough budget in the back of my head pretty much constantly.

unreal quarry
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I just don't like OT like some people because I don't feel like I need to rely on that to live

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Some people here get mad when they don't get OT, like it hurt their rent or something. Not a way to live imho

ember crag
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Like this week, I have about $150 in each of my and gf's accounts just before paychecks hit tonight.

unreal quarry
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That's one of the reasons I'm faster than everyone else. I'm not better, I just don't drag ass to prolong the job into OT ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ember crag
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Yeah

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We have operators like that in assembly.

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They can easily make 60 parts an hour, but rate is 42, so they make 30 and call it good. Then they bitch about working Saturday.

worn ember
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small brain

unreal quarry
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My assistant got mad at me for it lol. He eventually got over it and now has a 2nd job for those 4 off days :S

worn ember
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so 80 hours a week?

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how does that even work

ember crag
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Well, back to work. Enjoy.