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void void
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another sus character who won't type anything, literally ever

warped spear
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anyone ever try jvmci compiler or nah

vestal jasper
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@void void 2 more

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these names are big sus

placid tendon
void void
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wtf

void void
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my amidst freezes if i zoom out too much dang it

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whats another seed viewer for all versions minecraft

brisk forum
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electro please accept friend request, very important question thats not for the users 🙂

heady spear
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him: asks where to find configuration info
me: check out the wiki
him: ...

void void
brazen niche
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Does anyone know if spigot still alters mob spawn rates to improve performance?

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Atm still using craftbukkit instead of spigot or paperspigot because of this

limber knotBOT
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@brazen niche [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

brazen niche
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yes yes I know but im searching for help and I thought why not here since you guys are a fork of spigot or so I believe

bright mason
vestal jasper
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@heady spear well

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I've managed to create NPCs that attack players (properly) and have their skins (and skin parts)

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the latter was surprisingly difficult

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I had to do more digging than I thought I would to find the key sponge uses to store skin parts in the class I'm extending

woven otter
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@heady spear reading is hard

dawn merlin
void void
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i wish it took less then 4 days to pre-generate my world

dawn merlin
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hey

topaz mortar
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I wish that it took less than 4 years to update to latest MC version for the PvP community. 🤣

limber knotBOT
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speaking of which, I really wonder when the new pvp changes will come into a release

vestal jasper
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Would help if people gave more input and feedback on the changes

limber knotBOT
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there's lots of hilarious people saying: "jUsT rEvErT tO 1.8 pVp"

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most of the feedback is absolute trash ngl

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well not "most", but too many

dawn merlin
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@topaz mortar the PVP is trash

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so

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it makes sense

unreal quarry
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Ngl, I kinda like that they are stuck on 1.8.. keeps that cancer off my server ;)

dawn merlin
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(the PVP in the latrest version)

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new combat seems promising

limber knotBOT
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"one aspect of the game is trash, so I'll just stay with the other 90% of already existing trash!"

dawn merlin
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what?

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the entire purpose of servers like hypixel is pvp

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i dont get your point

fringe crown
limber knotBOT
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it's one thing you can easily adapt and change

dawn merlin
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what is

limber knotBOT
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pvp

dawn merlin
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you can adapt the pvp system?

limber knotBOT
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ever heard of oldcombatmechanics? the plugin is absolute trash, but it proves the point

dawn merlin
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fair

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(why is the plugin trash?)

limber knotBOT
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it does have a lot of nice features, but the implementation lacks a lot of optimization pretty much everywhere

dawn merlin
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hm

unreal quarry
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Honestly, 1.8 and below don't have pvp. It's more click spammer vs click spammer. Lol

dawn merlin
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@unreal quarry heard of strafing? w tapping?

unreal quarry
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At least it's got balanced cooldowns now

limber knotBOT
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which would be alright if this weren't their red marked header: "Unlike similar plugins, this plugin focuses on efficiency so as to not hinder the performance of your server."

dawn merlin
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lol

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also, on an unrelated note, speedbridging is messed up so I hope they fix that

limber knotBOT
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the one thing you really can't do anything about is the client sided height when sneaking since 1.14

unreal quarry
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No clue what pvp terms are, tbh, cyber. I try to stay away from that mess ever since the whole "bunny hop" thing during combat became a standard waaaaay back in the day. Not just Minecraft, all of them.

limber knotBOT
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I love it personally, but for pvp it's eh

unreal quarry
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^_^

dawn merlin
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strafing: moving around so the enemy cant hit you

unreal quarry
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AKA bunny hop

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Got it

dawn merlin
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what..?

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bunny hop is a hack

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or

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do you mean something else

vestal jasper
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w-tapping and/or blockhitting keeps constantly resetting your sprint, meaning that you ALWAYS deal extra knockback.

dawn merlin
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^

unreal quarry
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I mean jumping around like an idiot instead of actually fighting lol

dawn merlin
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thats not

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what it is

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moving left or right while aiming at the enemy

vestal jasper
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Id say w tapping is more exploitive than speed bridging

dawn merlin
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what... its a mechanic

vestal jasper
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Ok

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I didn't say it isn't

dawn merlin
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ok

unreal quarry
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So are zero ticks farms, huh cyber?

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Lol

dawn merlin
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what?

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well

unreal quarry
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It's a mechanic until Mojang says it's broken and fixes it. Oh wait, apparently even then it's still a mechanic (see everyone stuck on 1.8)

vapid pagoda
dawn merlin
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okay

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this is strafing @unreal quarry https://youtu.be/r36fuItfcS0?t=49

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limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) PvP Strafing Tutorial (how to strafe) - length 4m 31s - 2,896 likes, 154 dislikes (95.0%) - 124,810 views - ElFly on 2017.08.08

unreal quarry
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Just press a and d, got it.

dawn merlin
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bruh...

unreal quarry
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^_^

dawn merlin
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"just wait until the cooldown finishes, got it"

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^_^

limber knotBOT
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lmao

dawn merlin
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plus, you have to aim while pressing a and d

limber knotBOT
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just having to move your mouse, got it

unreal quarry
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I mean, it's not hard. You got two hands. One for moving, one for aiming.

dawn merlin
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aiming while moving is non trivial

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and, you didnt answer me

unreal quarry
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Maybe if you're 5

dawn merlin
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anyways lets not

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rant

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so

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ok

unreal quarry
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The cool down is the greatest thing to happen to Minecraft combat since the invention of the sword lol

dawn merlin
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[citation requested]

limber knotBOT
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yeah I'll have to side with both; 1.8 is trash and its pvp has become stale, and billy is too stubborn to argue with :aaa:

vestal jasper
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Both combats are terrible.

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Mc is a terrible combat game.

limber knotBOT
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vic here to defy everything

wide chasm
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🍿

limber knotBOT
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now missing: both 1.8 and 1.9 pvp are great and without flaws!

void void
dawn merlin
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1.9 is good for people who want to casually pvp

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well maybe

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idk

wide chasm
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I prefer 1.9 PvP over 1.8 PvP.

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Alright, now I can continue with my popcorn.

limber knotBOT
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1.8 is good for people who want to casually pve

dawn merlin
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elaborate

topaz mortar
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No-PvP is the best PvP. 🤣

dawn merlin
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how does that make sense

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we arent even talking about pve

void void
limber knotBOT
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but how does it now make sense

wide chasm
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1.8 felt too much as a game of cookie clicker, while 1.9 feels more balanced if you don't feel like clicking 15 times a second.

limber knotBOT
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15

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more like 50

dawn merlin
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oh my goddd

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the clicks dont even matter

limber knotBOT
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wat

dawn merlin
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4 correctly timed cps is all you need

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you can only deal 4 hits a second

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but if you arent good at timing, click fast

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which is what most people do

topaz mortar
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stef good comparison. Need to remind that. 🍪 -clicker

dawn merlin
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if strafing wasnt a thing i would agree 1.9 pvp is better

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but it is

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so that actual skill is required

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moving exists in the game

wide chasm
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Yes, moving exists, suprisingly on all versions.

dawn merlin
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press a and d while aiming at your opponent in unpredictable patterns

limber knotBOT
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lmao

dawn merlin
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so the opponent cannot hit

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it requires skill, unlike whtat people say

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and, blocks

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lava

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water

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golden apples

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every thgrg1q3An`oi1x

limber knotBOT
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but following what stef said, can you no longer move in 1.9?

fallen jungle
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"god apples" were a mistake all along

limber knotBOT
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and the latter aren't limited to 1.8

wide chasm
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Tbh, using other tools than just swords and axes for pvp does make it more fun

fallen jungle
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Bow gang

wide chasm
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Bows are awesome

dawn merlin
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in 1.9 the cooldowns make it so you can't really strafe and be useful

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you're in a cooldown so you can't hit anyways

limber knotBOT
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if the cooldown is actually your only problem, ez pz gone with it

dawn merlin
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strafing is what makes you get a combo

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combos are nonexistant in 1.9

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what?

wide chasm
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Strafing never really felt interesting to me tbh

dawn merlin
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combo = good pvp

strafing = combo

cooldown = no strafing

cooldown = no combo, since you cant hit fast

wide chasm
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It makes it harder for the opponent, but the overall process of pvp isn't really enhanced.

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I feel like the addition of cooldowns give more room for other factors of the game to be useful.

dawn merlin
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like?

wide chasm
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You mean which other factors?

dawn merlin
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yes

fallen jungle
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I loved pre-1.9 pvp but did it so much I didn't mind the change. Post-1.9 is fine for survival imo

wide chasm
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Well, blocks, such as water, lava, but also just other normal blocks; different types of weapons

dawn merlin
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@wide chasm all of that is relevant in 1.8

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and is used all the time

wide chasm
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Yes, but I feel like it became more relevant post 1.8.

dawn merlin
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i cant argue for or against that tbh

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but see the image above

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cooldowns remove both strafing and combos

limber knotBOT
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I mean again, if the cooldown is literally your source of evil, there's nothing easier than removing it

wide chasm
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Yes, but I don't think strafing is interesting to begin with, hence I don't mind it.

dawn merlin
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@quasi valley i.e. thats basically just reverting to 1.8

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actually, thats what the new combat does

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the experimental one

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and i like the new one

limber knotBOT
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not really lol

wide chasm
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"coyote time" though

dawn merlin
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what

fallen jungle
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does it now? When I last tried it was very far

dawn merlin
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does it not?

limber knotBOT
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did you actually read up on any of the changes

fallen jungle
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it has an even stricter cooldown

dawn merlin
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i did

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i mean

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i watched antvenom's vid ;-;

fallen jungle
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Now you literally can't attack before the cooldown is over

limber knotBOT
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yeah waow

fallen jungle
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unless I'm outdated too

wide chasm
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Of course there are things brought back from 1.8, but not everything.

limber knotBOT
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read the 5 changelogs on reddit

dawn merlin
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@fallen jungle so, thats like extending the HurtTime

fallen jungle
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As in?

dawn merlin
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would that make 1.8 a subset of the new combat?

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where all weapons have a 0.25s cooldown

limber knotBOT
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it's different

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to both 1.8 and 1.9

dawn merlin
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if what jetp250 said is true

fallen jungle
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When I tried it it was kinda like 1.9, but you had to wait for the cooldown to be completely over

dawn merlin
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you cant attack until the cooldown is over

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then,

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its basically the same as 1.8, you cant attack until 0.25 seconds

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but with a variable amount of seconds

fallen jungle
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ok I'll see if there's been a new snapshot

dawn merlin
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thus 1.8 being a subset of the new

fallen jungle
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0.25 would be ridiculously fast

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it was more like 1s

dawn merlin
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thats too slow for it to be fun imo

fallen jungle
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That's how I felt when I tried it

limber knotBOT
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its basically the same as 1.8, you have a cooldown and deal less damage with another bigger cooldown

worn ember
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damn son thats an amazing graph

limber knotBOT
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thus 1.9 being a subset of the new

dawn merlin
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hm?

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@quasi valley 1.8 also has a "cooldown"

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every version has

limber knotBOT
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just read up on the 5 changes plase

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5 changelogs*

dawn merlin
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the 0.25 second cooldown after someone getting damaged where you cant get damaged again

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so

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the new update

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ok ill read

limber knotBOT
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that's 5% of the story

worn ember
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1.16 when?

limber knotBOT
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which is why you should read them

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the one article on their page summarizes it, but a bit too little imo, so you're better off reading all 5 reddit posts

fallen jungle
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Or even better, try it out after reading

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Going to try out the latest one right now

dawn merlin
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ok

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i cant find the redditposts

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Experimental Combat Snapshot - version 5 : Minecraft - 896 comments, 849 points - jeb_, 1mo ago

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it also links to all previous four, so start with the first

storm vault
unreal quarry
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Tbh, I just like stirring the pot when it comes to mc pvp. Pvp on mc can't be taken seriously at all because the game trusts the client too much.

dawn merlin
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what else would it do

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nvm it could probably just

fallen jungle
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It need not to be taken seriously, I found it fun despite all the cheaters

dawn merlin
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ok so

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i am currently playing it

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and it looks like there are barely any cooldowns?

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with a diamond sword atleast

fallen jungle
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You sure you weren't clicking ground?

dawn merlin
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this is fun

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i wasnt

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this is legitimately good

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its similar to the 1.8 pvp

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i like this

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if other people also like this then world peace has been achieved(?)

fallen jungle
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it's like 0.3s cooldown

dawn merlin
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yeah

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not like

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1 second

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0.3s is close to the 0.25s of 1.8

fallen jungle
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Note that if you wait a little longer than the minimum requirement, you'll deal more damage

wide chasm
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If they aren't gonna throw out coyote time, I'll be the one complaining about pvp this time. And you can't stop me.

dawn merlin
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what is coyote time

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i mean

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i know what it is but

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whatever ill read the reddit posts

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ok yeah thats dumb

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that should be removed

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@wide chasm so, do you like this new combat?

fallen jungle
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You didn't even try it yet did you 🤔 But yes I'm not a huge fan either

dawn merlin
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i did try

wide chasm
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I don't play MC that much anymore, but I'm fine with most of the stuff.

dawn merlin
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that confuses me

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this combat is very similar to 1.8

fallen jungle
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I don't find this similar to 1.8 at all

dawn merlin
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so i dunno why you dont like the 1.8 combat

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it.. is?

woven otter
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1.8 WutFace

dawn merlin
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what's the difference

vestal jasper
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As for me I only ever log on to test plugins

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🤠

fallen jungle
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Ok I just tested out combos and those actually do work now

limber knotBOT
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I don't hate the combat, I just hate ancient versions

fallen jungle
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^ me basically

limber knotBOT
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Latest or bust

topaz mortar
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Never played PvP that hard. MC was and is a game for PvE and building what you love,

+ for me

.

limber knotBOT
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Minecraft is whatever you want

vestal jasper
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Tbh yeah I feel like a lot of us just hate users expecting us to support 5+ year old versions of the game. Retards review bomb any plugin that drops 1.8 support.

fallen jungle
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Who are you to dictate what it is for? If people enjoy PvP, it's a game for PvP for them

worn ember
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i am pro pvper

wide chasm
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Well, I'd still like higher cooldown times; some of the ones in 1.9 were a bit too long, so shortening them is fine, although I feel like they went too much to the low side again this time. The changes to food are fine for pvp/pve I'd assume, but they sound awful for non-pvp/pve gameplay. The upwards momentum feels a bit too over the top. And well, no coyote time please. Probably other stuff as well; but generally I'm okay with it.

worn ember
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"oh what game do you play?"
Minecraft.
"kekw"

dawn merlin
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@wide chasm agreed with everything except cooldown times

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uhh

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why cant i hit?

vestal jasper
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If you prefer 1.8 then go for it. Prefer beta 1.7.3? More power to you. Just don't expect me to write plugins for it peepoJuice

wide chasm
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But Vic, why won't you write 1.7.3 beta plugins for me?

dawn merlin
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menus work fine but i cant punch

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not even mine

worn ember
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plz fix ur shitty 1.8 ploogin it no work

dawn merlin
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huh..

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did i break it

fallen jungle
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I'd consider writing a beta 1.7.3 plugin if I get enough money

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Because it could be actually interesting

worn ember
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bruh

vestal jasper
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Stef I'd rather replace my mattress with a bunch of nails than dev for b1.7.3

worn ember
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my window just cracked from the hail

latent valve
wide chasm
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Could you then replace your mattress for me? /s

dawn merlin
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is there a feature where you can't use your mouse in some situation?

vestal jasper
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Stef im not giving you money

topaz mortar
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Who are you to dictate what it is for? If people enjoy PvP, it's a game for PvP for them
@fallen jungle forgot the important thing in my message. Myself minonaSWAG

wide chasm
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You don't have to give me money, you just have to give the mattress store your money

worn ember
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thats some indian english if i've ever seen one

fallen jungle
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I took a week off of Discord because I was spending too much time on servers and today is the first day after the break and I'm already wasting my life here

worn ember
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better just delete it lul

fallen jungle
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I did uninstall

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but I installed it back for many reasons

worn ember
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dont reinstall 😉

dawn merlin
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i literally cant click?

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i cant mine or deal damage

topaz mortar
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1.8 trash talk is wasting time.
runs

left swift
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1.8 is a waste of time

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runs

dawn merlin
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right click works but i cant do anything

worn ember
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well its a waste of time cuz the 1.8fanboys wont change their opinion anyway

wide chasm
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But 1.15 is a waste of resources
runs

worn ember
left swift
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1.15 runs fine if you aren't a potato
runs

fallen jungle
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Turns out I'm a potato

topaz mortar
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1.16 Nether is neat but also a waste of resources atm.

fallen jungle
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Honestly I was surprised how well 1.16 was working for me

worn ember
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whole nether is a waste of resources, i hate that world

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it can burn in hell

dawn merlin
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i just realized there's builtin togglesprint in this update

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hell yeah

wide chasm
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But netherrite, or whatever that's called.

fallen jungle
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Cool ore but way too easy to get

left swift
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New bis

fallen jungle
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Basically, if you get to nether, you have yourself a netherite gear

dawn merlin
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why cant i click aaaa

left swift
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Too easy?

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Vat

golden gust
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looks at the handful of servers which actually listen to his advice pulling in 60+ players at 20TPS

worn ember
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those servers obviously use purpur

topaz mortar
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The Spigot 1.16 snapshot server runs

Need to switch to a new laptop, cause 8 years of Minecraft development and Mac OS versions are heating up my machine.

golden gust
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Still not 1.8 or even 1.12 levels, but still

pulsar wigeon
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you can get 150+ players if you just run a creative server and skip that survival trash :^)

left swift
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They're running it back

worn ember
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just lock them in a netherportal so they cant put any load on the server

left swift
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No

golden gust
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Should just use spigots trick

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Or, heck,

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spigots even older trick

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Don't tick anything!

fallen jungle
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Just reject all the incoming packets and make your server only send the needed packets so that the client doesn't disconnect

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minimal processing

wide chasm
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Distribute it over a network of servers for even better performance!

worn ember
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just offload the processing to the clients, the more clients the faster your server runs bigmac

left swift
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Turning off the server in my experience has still been the best performance

wide chasm
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Buy Realms and complain to Mojang if the server is slow.

worn ember
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no plogins tho

wide chasm
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Plugins are just an implementation detail; they can easily be replaced by data packs.

left swift
topaz mortar
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stefvanschie runs

worn ember
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if only

fallen jungle
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if you enable whitelist but never add anybody to it, nobody gets to see whether you have ploogins or not

wide chasm
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throws away AdvancedNoPluginsPlus

worn ember
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i'd be glad if we didnt need paper anymore and we could run everything on datapacks /s

left swift
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UltimateAntiPluginCheatPlus+

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premium version

wide chasm
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"I want my 12.99 refunded"

fallen jungle
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"hides your plugin list and so much more!"

left swift
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No support in the reviews stef

wide chasm
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Watch me

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I'll ruin your 5 star average

fallen jungle
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I love the trend of putting "and so much more" in the feature list

left swift
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The only feature

fallen jungle
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Like where can I actually see the features? If they're not listed I assume they're not worth listing

left swift
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Plugin Feature List:
~ and so much more

wide chasm
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Hey, at least saying "and much more" is better than listing features that it doesn't have.

worn ember
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Sorry you need at least an iq of 65 to download this plugin

wide chasm
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Such a shame you can't download it then Dark

worn ember
heady spear
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Grafana is so fucking nice lol

worn ember
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so you get pinged every few seconds?

left swift
heady spear
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Lol we’ve fixed most of our performance issues my dude

worn ember
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did deleting plot² fix it?

heady spear
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The server doesn’t run PlotSquared, we only use quality plugins

worn ember
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fair enough

wide chasm
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So you used PlotMe?

golden gust
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Shoulda been obvious

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the TPS counter is consistently at 20 and not 2

worn ember
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yea my bad i read that . wrong

left swift
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I've only ever used plotsquared to make a plot world for me

worn ember
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Your page in history ends

pulsar wigeon
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did you kill all ur npcs city?

heady spear
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No, we spawned in about 5 times more

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But it turns out npcs are less of an issue than doing super fucking dumb things every time an npc ticks

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Like idk, replacing the players scoreboard to update the npc teams for ALL players for all npcs every tick

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Bad idea

limber knotBOT
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waddafuq

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indeed

vestal jasper
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Mfw

pulsar wigeon
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typical city level code

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smh

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you should make P2 save the entire plot db to sql on main thread every tick

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can't risk losing data

vestal jasper
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we only use quality plugins
Like idk, replacing the players scoreboard to update the npc teams for ALL players for all npcs every tick

worn ember
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cant expect too much

ripe vector
primal fern
ruby crescent
noble rock
hazy ravine
void void
warped spear
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its unfortunate Graal JIT doesn't support anything other than g1 rn as it could offer a nice performance boost

limber knotBOT
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whats wrong with g1gc?

gusty latch
worn ember
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garbage collectors be slacking

manic oriole
ocean hornet
woven otter
pulsar wigeon
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playing dangerous games there

limber knotBOT
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"large math operations"

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right

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=, -1, ==, getting a relative - that's some serious shit right there

pulsar wigeon
#

oh wait

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not only do they get blocks async, they then call doGeneration async

#

that sounds very dangerous

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.-.

pulsar wigeon
#

ah ok

#

line 50 pushes back to MT

#

still risky, but only if you end up loading chunks

limber knotBOT
#

at least they document/comment their code

woven otter
#

people sure do like to vomit in their IDEs

void void
heady spear
#

wtf is a gen bucket

limber knotBOT
#

a bucket that generates walls

#

seems to be popular on factions servers

latent valve
#

TrumpBucket

#

runn

limber knotBOT
#

probably inspired by Fortnite building :S

#

I'm visiting a school for studies, and I'm scared of how many kids talk about fortnite there

#

but one had a slick minecraft hoodie 😎

latent valve
#

fortnite 🚮

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haha

twin lagoon
#

gen buckets are lava buckets that just replace the lava stream w/ blocks

#

useful for faction base building (walls) ye

heady spear
#

oh, I've never heard of that before :p

limber knotBOT
unreal quarry
#

Ppl be dum, kenny

olive garden
#

😐

woven otter
#

maybe you need to attack them personally

limber knotBOT
#

or include a digital dictionary with every jar

#

Kennys face is dum

#

ah haven't seen your dum self in here for a while again

#

been busy

#

with?

#

doing advertising for a minecraft server

latent valve
#

.kill kenny

limber knotBOT
#

unleashes the armies of Isengard on kenny.

#

can you get back doing that again then please

#

Na

#

im having a night off i came to abuse you

fleet osprey
#

cringe

limber knotBOT
#

i

#

yeah just i

#

I missed the oppression of #paper and abusing KennyTV

#

where's our savior wiz

#

the slayer of the dum

#

the killer of the Vert

pulsar wigeon
#

not on irc unfortunately

#

i'll ban him when i get home or something

limber knotBOT
#

I mean abuse right there

#

Not done anything wrong this is magma all over

#

you're doing wrong just by tormenting us with your plain existence

#

But you love it when I exist.

#

only when I can bully you

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s/bully you/try to bullly you and fail

#

Correction, <KennyTV> only when I can try to bullly you and fail

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bullly

#

looks like a fail right there

#

its okay we still kind of care about you KennyTV you are a little bit special.

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I'm very special I know 😎

#

Yes you are.

void void
woven otter
#

can we ban wiz from banning

olive garden
#

no, it's part of his job as a moderator

golden gust
#

delet wiz

pulsar wigeon
#

pls delet me

#

don't want to deal with anything anymore

ember crag
#

kväck

limber knotBOT
#

but if wiz were gone there would be noone to stop people like Vertanzil ;(

void void
latent valve
#

if wiz is gone we cant ping him and see people getting kick anymore

#

😦

#

hi TehBrian

austere ivy
#

hi guys I'm getting this error:
25.02 14:21:51 [Server] [Plugin] PLEASE UPDATE YOUR PLUGIN JAR. DO NOT REPORT THIS MESSAGE TO PAPER. DO NOT RESTART THE SERVER.

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I restart my server and the message go away but now the plugin isn't work??

#

Help

pulsar wigeon
#

to kick or not to kick

limber knotBOT
#

that is the question

static badge
#

tf

woven otter
#

can we bully wiz at least

worn ember
#

i think wiz bullies you

ember crag
#

Bully at your own risk.

#

kväck

limber knotBOT
#

Bully Duck its free

void void
ember crag
#

Hi randos

#

Inb4 🦗

limber knotBOT
#

the hell is that an ant

worn ember
#

its a cricket

#

if you had discord you wouldve been able to read the name

#

stupid IRC people ree

limber knotBOT
#

jokes on you dumcord dummy

worn ember
#

stupid kenny person

pulsar wigeon
#

just goes to show vert is pepega

limber knotBOT
#

just as ded

worn ember
#

ur ded

limber knotBOT
#

I mean whatever wiz

woven otter
#

bullying is bad

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except when it comes to wiz

coarse urchin
#

Getting 503'd

fallen oracle
#

What exactly does "allow concurrent potions" mean? Can't you already have multiple effects at once?

#

They turned on CloudFlare Under Attack mode

coarse urchin
#

Hm

pulsar wigeon
#

you could in vanilla but api didn't let you

#

would overwrite effects

#

or you know, just look at the commit

fallen oracle
#

Meh

worn ember
#

am ddosing spigot PepeYikes

olive garden
#

I regret to inform you that, unless you have permission to do so, is a crime

limber knotBOT
#

I'm spamming ping in the windows cmd

worn ember
#

its their fault if they didnt disable ICMP

olive garden
#

lol

#

big brain

green turret
#

Tips for getting rid of neck pain? I think I slept weird. It's so exhausting this constant tension x_x

worn ember
#

my cybersecurity teacher is making us search as much details about any company and see if we can find any backdoors to get into their system/sites lmao and i'm pretty sure thats illegal or at least a gray zone

pulsar wigeon
#

get a massage

worn ember
#

snap your neck

olive garden
#

there are cases where such work was considered illegal and the person was fined

worn ember
#

only if they catch you

#

turns incognito on

limber knotBOT
#

I mean just searching isn't an issue, but actually accessing a system would definitly be

green turret
#

Massages are expensive :(

olive garden
#

without consent from the service, anything with ill-intent is a crime
debating whether you have ill-intent is... hard? interesting?

worn ember
#

just say it was for educational purposes lmao

olive garden
#

I mean just look at that "is port scanning illegal" debate

worn ember
#

which isnt wrong

olive garden
limber knotBOT
#

just use TOR thinksmart

olive garden
#

I guess that's fine as long as you aren't researching the NSA itself lol

worn ember
#

oh uh

olive garden
#

If you ever participate in such discussions, try to avoid the overused and ill-fitting analogies to knocking on someone's home door or testing whether his door and windows are locked.

#

lmao

worn ember
#

well its not their house if you live there now

olive garden
#

are you researching your own network?

worn ember
#

nah

void void
worn ember
#

some random dodgy looking company

olive garden
#

that might be against the ToS of your router though lmao

#

(researching it)

worn ember
#

its kinda funny how easy it is to "hack" security camera's

#

most even have hardcoded passwords

limber knotBOT
worn ember
#

so if you can get your hands on the firmware its pretty easy to reverse engineer them to find holes

limber knotBOT
#

Dam it wheres that emoji when you need it

olive garden
#

it's the best when the firmware uses GPL licensed stuff

coral storm
olive garden
#

I read a paper where a Vodefone's femtocell had a port knocking system in their firmware, which inherited the GPL license since the OS it was running on was GPL licensed

#

so finding the port sequence wasn't hard :D

#

it probably hadn't changed

worn ember
#

lol

olive garden
#

they did fix the "easy-to-guess" root password though

worn ember
#

i'd send the video i found about the reverse engineering but i forgot the name

olive garden
#

is it the "IRC, here's the source code, hax me" one?

worn ember
#

no, its about some dude doing a hackathon presentation on security camera's

olive garden
#

defcon?

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Black Hat 2013 - Exploiting Network Surveillance Cameras Like a Hollywood Hacker - length 33m 37s - 13,108 likes, 223 dislikes (98.3%) - 885,607 views - HackersOnBoard on 2013.11.20

worn ember
#

from 2013 tho

#

so not sure how much is still relevant

limber knotBOT
#

nowadays you exploit "smart" home cameras

#

or buttplugs

worn ember
#

seen that one lmao

#

sexual assault lmao

limber knotBOT
#

tbh the ability to infect people just via the PC app executing javascript from a chat message as native code is fucking insane

olive garden
#

what are you talking about in specific?

limber knotBOT
#

(of course patching the bluetooth dongle via any bluetooth device is pretty crazy too but validating your user input for chat is usually the first thing one should do in regards to security...)

#

let me find the talk

worn ember
#

just proves that not all "professional" devs know what they're doing

#

more than a few probably

olive garden
#

outsourcing to India is cheaper :P

worn ember
#

till you have a databreach and it costs you millions 🙂

olive garden
#

till you realize that spagetti code is real

#

and that it's the least of your worries regarding the codebase

limber knotBOT
#

(phoenix616) smea - Adventures In Smart Buttplug Penetration testing - DEF CON 27 Conference - length 45m 34s - 2,178 likes, 51 dislikes (97.7%) - 87,358 views - DEFCONConference on 2019.11.16

#

not sure if it contains NSFW but I doubt it xD

olive garden
#

what does a buttplug have to do with JS injection?

#

*JS injection is messages

worn ember
#

watch and you'll find out

limber knotBOT
#

3yeah

pulsar wigeon
#

eLeCtRoN aPpS

limber knotBOT
#

but basically: they have an electron app to control it via the PC/internet which also features a social media network with inbuilt chat

ember crag
#

penetration testing 😏

worn ember
#

<script>console.log("i hacked you")</script>

#

i hacked discord

limber knotBOT
#

Hot

ember crag
#

they don't properly escape their user input?

worn ember
#

pretty much

olive garden
#

I skipped into it and this hack also involves heap manipulation

ember crag
#

that's a rookie level mistake

#

<script>alert("Hmm?")</script>

#

electron must not do alert boxes

worn ember
#

i want a teledildonic now

void void
#

@ember crag electron does dialog not alert

pulsar wigeon
olive garden
void void
#

NO TRIGARY WHY

olive garden
#

?

void void
#

you do know what lovense is right my boy

marble imp
pulsar wigeon
#

simple bruh

#

did you miss the entire convo?

void void
#

yes i just woke up

olive garden
#

read the title of the video

pulsar wigeon
#

we are literally talking about a def con talk where some dude hacks a buttplug

void void
#

oh its defcon

#

lmao

#

ok ignore me

worn ember
#

:smallbrain:

void void
#

i havent had coffee yet

#

im waiting for it to cool down

#

gimme a break

worn ember
#

back to work

limber knotBOT
#

the fun thing about that video: the bluetooth hack probably works for lots of other devices using the same chips...

worn ember
#

ima mine bitcoin on your buttplug

void void
#

@worn ember yea? well im gonna use your bitcoin miner as a buttplug

worn ember
manic oyster
brittle belfry
scarlet flame
frigid glacier
stuck oak
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Testing c0nn3r's bots for fun - mc.salc1.com - Feb 24 2020 (now owned by hermeticlock) - length 9m 5s - 5 likes, 0 dislikes (100.0%) - 140 views - BlackCreeper on 2020.02.25

worn ember
void void
#

I posted it already

#

Wrong server

worn ember
pulsar wigeon
#

why do you keep posting this shit

#

no one cares about ur dum shit

merry talon
#

did they confirm whether or not hacking a buttplug is rape

#

looks like you made it with gimp in 2 minutes

neon dagger
#

I bet that guy just did that hack for the pun. :p

merry talon
#

your house floods and your shower scalds you because your wifi is down

void void
#

what the holy fuck

#

oh it just tracks it sweep lol

merry talon
#

shhh

unreal quarry
#

What's next, wifi toilet paper?

merry talon
#

wifi wifi

unreal quarry
#

Or wifi bidets for you weirdos

austere ivy
#

Excuse you

void void
#

bidets are the only true way to clean one's asshole

merry talon
#

I dont see how it could get squeaky clean at such low pressure

austere ivy
#

Not talking about WiFi bidets but bidets in general are amazing

merry talon
#

just use a wet wipe

austere ivy
#

You might think it’s gross but

void void
#

'low pressure'

#

hah

austere ivy
#

What you do is wiping yourself with a tree

unreal quarry
#

Simple's is set so high it's an enima

merry talon
#

if it's high pressure

#

how does it not spray shit water everywhere

void void
#

no, it's not high, it's about medium and it's just right

#

and i still use toilet paper to dry boys, i just dont use a fuckload of wiping shit onto non-biodegradable stuff that i force into the pipes

#

weirdos

merry talon
#

get bigger pipes

austere ivy
#

Yeah duh

void void
#

said like a true murican

austere ivy
#

Y’all are gross

#

You just wipe with a dry piece of tree bark?

#

Cmon

void void
#

brian wtf are you on about

#

who is wiping with tree bark

austere ivy
#

That’s what toilet paper is

merry talon
#

you'll need it for all the shit you're spewing

austere ivy
#

er tree uhh

void void
#

this just in, brian has no idea how paper is made

austere ivy
#

log

#

ITS TREE

green turret
#

I'd like a bidet that just pressure washes my ass when I've been poopin

unreal quarry
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Demolition Man - The 3 Shells - length 2m 6s - 2,304 likes, 66 dislikes (97.2%) - 495,636 views - Blue Cereal on 2015.05.12

void void
#

thats what a bidet is

green turret
#

But I mean like fire hydrant level pressure

worn ember
#

now i can add showers to my ddos arsenal

void void
#

idk maybe ive just spent too much time in asia, the plumbing infra is not strong enough to handle TP. there is just a trash can where you put the used toilet paper; which leads to the notion that you definitely should NOT be putting your actual shit onto the TP because that would be disgusting. you wash it out, then dry it and put the wet TP in the trash can

#

to me, feels nicer

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

worn ember
#

you clean your ass with teleport scrolls?

void void
#

yes

#

i teleport the shit right out of my ass

worn ember
#

lmfao

green turret
#

I use wet wipes. I know it can clog the pipes but I have a really noisy upstairs neighbor so fuck everyone else.

worn ember
#

its more that they dont break down as easily angreyy

green turret
#

I mean with just dry toilet paper I sometimes wipe and wipe and wipe

worn ember
#

blame your food, not your TP

green turret
#

Eventually blood everywhere

void void
#

this is why i have bidet to clean, then just use a small amount of TP to dry

#

wait what

worn ember
void void
green turret
worn ember
green turret
#

impossibru is my face when wiping

worn ember
#

blaze is my face when watching you wipe

void void
#

why the f uck are you watching him wipe his ass

green turret
worn ember
#

putting a space in fuck doesnt make any difference simple smh

void void
#

that was not intentional

mental oriole
lost edge
latent valve
uncut fern
pulsar wigeon
#

y'all memed in the wrong place

#

yall paid the price

uncut fern
#

Feelsbad

void void
#

who are all these fucking people who join paper that are literally minute or less old accounts

#

nice

#

not even a minute old

#

oh jk that one is

#

im over it

latent valve
#

u high simple?

void void
#

no

#

literally 15 people have joined in the last 24 hours, and most of them are 30 second old discord accounts

#

they never speak, they never do anything

#

they just join

latent valve
#

🤔 bottttttttts

unreal quarry
#

Few more and we'll be at 6969

void void
#

it's you isn't it billy

#

trying to get that 6969

worn ember
#

its crawler bots probably

#

gotta index discord

void void
#

excuse me what

static badge
worn ember
#

i mean, why else would you create bots to join random servers

#

really no point

latent valve
#

wb leaf pepega

#

leaf auto role?

worn ember
#

lol

#

i dont have my no table role thonk how come

void void
shell vine
#

$10 they all will ping wizjany in the future

#

or could just be randos

#

paper so popular

stiff yarrow
#

maybe we decided you were guilty of possesion of tables

umbral python
void void
#

3 of the last 4 people that joined were those accounts im talking about

pulsar wigeon
#

yea kinda odd

latent valve
#

:/ mass wizzy pinger?

void void
void void
latent valve
#

damn yea

#

alot of new account

vestal jasper
#

@void void speak, peasant

latent valve
#

hmmm he did change pfp to default

worn ember
#

just get an anti bot bot

potent warren
#

👀

vestal jasper
#

or kick everyone who has an account that's less than 5 minutes old at the time of joining who hasn't spoken

potent warren
#

Just kick everyone and you'll be fine!

worn ember
#

if you want to waste your own time on that sure

vestal jasper
#

uhhhh

cosmic raft
#

three

vestal jasper
#

ok was about to ping a mod about that

#

guess I don't need to now

queen rapids
#

what was it

#

i missed it

latent valve
#

Wut happen O.o

unreal quarry
#

Nothing to see here. Move along

#

ushers everyone off the street

mental oriole
#

What happened?

cosmic raft
#

nothing

honest hedge
latent valve
worn ember
mental oriole
#

Big PotatoFace. Good one, Discord

karmic fractal
limber knotBOT
#

howdy

pure badge
sharp sentinel
#

I've gotten like 5 PMs today that people have been spamming PMs of people in the enginehub discord, also with that similar super generic name pattern as the ones who are joining here 🤔

shell vine
#

advertisements or what

sharp sentinel
#

Usually scams for free nitro

void void
#

well they might be doing that i suppose, i wouldnt know

#

i have discord stranger danger mode

stark owl
faint kestrel
cyan iris
void void
#

how do i lure villagers

#

there is no mechanic for that.

delicate frigate
#

Make a mechanic for that ofc,😂

void void
#

sure

delicate frigate
#

Idek if thats possible

vestal jasper
#

use leads

#

wait can you lead villagers

delicate frigate
#

Probally is though

vestal jasper
#

tbh there's prob an AI goal / task for item luring

delicate frigate
#

Otherwise make your own AI goal, thats not too hard to do tbh

vestal jasper
#
        this.tasks.addTask(4, new EntityAITempt(this, 1.2D, Items.CARROT_ON_A_STICK, false));
        this.tasks.addTask(4, new EntityAITempt(this, 1.2D, false, TEMPTATION_ITEMS));```
#

(1.12)

#

which gives me an idea

#

NPCs that are tempted by gold LUL

delicate frigate
#

Lmfao

#

Mqke a gold digger

vestal jasper
#

working on an NPC plugin for a server so I might make mobs that rob players who are holding anything gold related

delicate frigate
#
        this.tasks.addTask(4, new EntityAITempt(this, 1.2D, false, TEMPTATION_ITEMS));```
#

Ez

vestal jasper
#

first part is unnecessary

#
        TEMPTATION_ITEMS = Sets.newHashSet(new Item[]{Items.CARROT, Items.POTATO, Items.BEETROOT});
#

TEMPTATION_ITEMS is already a list of items the entity is tempted by

delicate frigate
#

Oh, yeah im not a java developer, and i couldnt have known since you made that file😅

vestal jasper
#

I just pulled that from mojang code

delicate frigate
#

Oh

#

Edit: im just not a java developer.

vestal jasper
#

I have a 1.12 env setup since most of this plugin is just hijacking NMS

delicate frigate
#

I'm going for my bachelor C# and after that imma do java lmfao.

void void
#

how do i make villagers lose profession

delicate frigate
#

Make them drunk.

void void
#

ok i just gotta wait

#

apparently

delicate frigate
#

Yeah, i don't know how😅

heady spear
void void
#

If you know C#, you know Java

#

They're so similar, it's hyper-ridiculous

topaz mortar
#

C# was developed after Microsoft and Sun failed finding a solution in court.

void void
cunning badge
#

@sharp sentinel Sorry for the ping, but are you a friend of aikar? you guys got (I think) the same wall in the back 😄

sharp sentinel
#

Bricks are a common wall material

void void
#

wtf lmao

#

"you have bricks behind you in your pic, must be related or be a friend of them"

topaz mortar
void void
#

18 year old article pepesaber

#

we really living in the future now

#

consequently C# was also made and released that year

worn ember
#

@void void C# has a lot of nice features over java imo

void void
#

without reading the article, ima say that was the settlement

#

"make your own bitch lmao"

#

that was the settlement

warped spear
#

so after some pretty extensive testing the java jvmci flag might be of use to modern mc for performance

void void
#

hey look

#

another day in a row

warped spear
#

this isn't garbage collection

#

this is compiler tweaks

void void
#

no but it's you talking about your bloody server and weird performance tweaking obsession on your junk hardware

worn ember
#

I doubt the jvm will make Minecraft less shit

warped spear
#

@void void actually I was testing on client on a fairly nice pc

#

the server rn is fine for the 10 or so people that playing on it

void void
warped spear
#

@worn ember alternative compiler with much better performance

worn ember
#

How many times do you kick them to change your jvm flags?

warped spear
#

for the server not often

void void
warped spear
#

again I was testing on a client and private server

worn ember
#

How can you even notice any difference when your server isn't even under load

warped spear
#

oh thats easy set render distance to extreme

worn ember
void void
#

phantom just so you know i hate you

#

and with that, good night

worn ember
#

Goodnight

topaz mortar
#

Isn't that more of a client side issue?

warped spear
#

well yes unless your connecting to a server thats running with a very high render distance

worn ember
#

100% unbeatable logic

warped spear
#

hosting own local server for testing with stupid settings

#

then fucking with shit like intrinsics and avx to try and make java mc less ass

#

so far so good though

heady zinc
warped spear
#

java 13 is great when you actually enable the things that make it different than java 8

topaz mortar
#

You need to send more chunks. That's the only thing I imagine why you hope it gets more load.

warped spear
#

pretty much how I was simulating a heavier workload

#

this was more of an me wanting to play around with the new compiler and see what I could get out of it

heady zinc
#

Hello.

warped spear
#

but I got some nice results so I thought I would share

#

so tldr: upgrade to java 13 an either switch to jvmci(also called GraalVM) or try low pause time collectors they fix the other wise stupid stutter of post 1.14+

#

offers both a server side and client side performance boost

#

tbh I largely did all this cause I just like tweaking stuff for better performance lmao

warped spear
#

...

#

I need to get a life sigh

woven otter
#

What is the thing you're using there in that screen

worn ember
#

@woven otter uwu

green turret
#

Can we get a separate channel for visual VM screenshots?

#

#share-your-garbage-collection

woven otter
#

@worn ember reverse

#

Ty mule

worn ember
#

whomsn'tnt

woven otter
#

Wat

worn ember
#

yeet

sharp dawn
void void
#
00:57:10 [INFO] [WorldBorder] [Fill] 120 more chunks processed (448999 total, ~7.0%) (free mem: 22851 MB)

7% after 7 hours 😩

#

im afraid to double the speed cos it might break

dawn merlin
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i think the new combat update will reunite the 2 communities

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🍿

void void
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item-despawn-rate: 12096000
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worn ember
cunning badge
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Hmm seems like I missed the new combat update

dawn merlin
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@still smelt yeah that needs to be nerfed

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dafuq is that emoji

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:arrays_index_at_0:

fierce temple
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Better i put -xms same as -xmx or 128mb?

dawn merlin
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if its the same, all memory will be allocated at startup, iiuc

vestal jasper
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yes

fierce temple
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no different to performance?

unreal quarry
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Put it the same

dawn merlin
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@fierce temple allocations are perfomance hit

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so yeah put it the same if you have a dedicated server

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if you're running it on your machine it may take up more ram than necessary but still

unreal quarry
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If it uses too much ram then your xmx is too high

fierce temple
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if i have 32gb linux dedi

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what better for -xmx

unreal quarry
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10

dawn merlin
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then ye put them th esame

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depends, how big is your server

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are you willing to use all the ram

unreal quarry
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Dont

dawn merlin
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hm

golden gust
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.flags

limber knotBOT
golden gust
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read

fierce temple
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I use that jvm flag but my cpu work so hard, and my server got bad tps, if only -xms and -xmx, its more tps stable

golden gust
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.optimize2

tidal geode
limber knotBOT
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emojis in a url

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that's top tier

worn ember
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uwu

left swift
worn ember
limber knotBOT
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Can somebody link that time since spigot release x site?

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you mean stef's?

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I don't remember who did it

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Maybe

worn ember
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would love to know aswel, since i cant find it with google searches

limber knotBOT
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either down or the link in his readme is incorrect thonk

worn ember
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@wide chasm u done fucked up boi

limber knotBOT
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That's not how GitHub io links work

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ooh right forgot that

static hill
limber knotBOT
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Thanks for putting that together, that would have been a pain on mobile 😂

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Doesn't use a router tho so you can't deeplink :/

worn ember
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deeplink?

limber knotBOT
worn ember
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oh you mean bookmarks?

limber knotBOT
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Or any other way to specify the version in the url

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Yeah I guess

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They are called deeplinks

worn ember
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didnt know that, i always just called them bookmarks lul

limber knotBOT
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"In the context of the World Wide Web, deep linking is the use of a hyperlink that links to a specific, generally searchable or indexed, piece of web content on a website, rather than the website's home page"

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bookmarks are what you.. bookmark for your browser :D

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You bookmark a deeplink ;)

worn ember
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also some dude stole my mod (bottom link) but the site doesnt exist anymore lul

limber knotBOT
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so a browsermark?

worn ember
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image stealing a mod from me PepeHands