general

[woven otter]

ur still sad

[limber knot]

ur an actual duck

[upper flicker]

we think he's just another loony, not a real duck

[limber knot]

I set my node modules directory to be my home folder

good stuff

[static badge]

set it to dev/null and you'll never regret

[limber knot]

Can always find things

[woven otter]

ur an actual taco

ur actually upside down kenny

[limber knot]

wow upsidedownist

https://youtu.be/npjF032TDDQ

(Tea) Raining Tacos - Parry Gripp & BooneBum - length 1m 34s - 406,978 likes, 18,439 dislikes (95.7%) - 36,422,605 views - ParryGripp on 2012.08.27

you're neither tolerant nor tolerable

[void void]

i just got called rude in another discord because i asked someone for clarification on their horribly worded question

i sure love new developers

[upper flicker]

rude

[void void]

little cutie pies

so fucking apprehensive

[limber knot]

Cutiepy*

cutiepi*

[void void]

qtpi

[limber knot]

qtpy

sips Tea

[void void]

qtπ

[limber knot]

Koala Tea

[woven otter]

simple ur rude

[void void]

i know im just a horrible person

[woven otter]

yes the worst

well you don't compare to upsidedown guy though

[wide chasm]

lol

That's why you document everything.

[void void]

can anyone decipher this without further clarification though?

https://reeee.ee/SjSS8i.png

[woven otter]

end users are stupid

[void void]

https://tenor.com/view/endusers-customers-end-users-programmerhumor-gif-13872480

[wide chasm]

What are the theme (team?) colors called? probably

Something along those lines I'd imagine.

[static badge]

that's definitely some google translate shit going on

[olive garden]

i think he's asking what the color theme is called

[void void]

yeah we finally figured that out

[olive garden]

but looking at the picture, that seems unlikely

[void void]

he was

[olive garden]

oh

[void void]

but im rude for asking to be sure

[wide chasm]

I usually copy such sentences, paste them in notepad, fix stuff word by word, look at the 'normal' sentence and then interpret whatever is there.

[void void]

i can't be bothered to waste my time on that

there are other people who had questions

[wide chasm]

But now you're rude!!! /s

[void void]

if he cant ask a good one then i ask for clarification and go to the next question

so yea sure, depending on viewpoint, it is rude

whatever

[pulsar wigeon]

you know what i do with dumb people

[void void]

just like maxim thinks StackOverflow is rude because he can't ask a good question

[pulsar wigeon]

ban em

[void void]

crying on spigot over it

i look at his question

and it's goddamn disgraceful

[wide chasm]

Wait, give me the thread.

[topaz mortar]

I copy/paste it into deepl translator and hope that something meaningful drops out.

[void void]

oh maybe it wasnt maxim

who's that other dude

i always confuse them

[woven otter]

[wide chasm]

Ehm... Bobcat?

[woven otter]

oh I forgot

[topaz mortar]

Dennis

[woven otter]

#justiceformagma

[static badge]

is magma banned

[void void]

um, the thread might be gone i can't find it anymore

[static badge]

would explain the lack of severe critical cancer floating around here

[woven otter]

yes

[wide chasm]

Magma isn't banned afaik

Unless I forgot his discord name.

[woven otter]

pretty sure he is

[limber knot]

magma uses irc

[pulsar wigeon]

he is

[woven otter]

ask

[wide chasm]

Doesn't show up in the ban list when looking for 'magma'

Oh IRC

Then idk

[void void]

oh, ok. not maxim stef, it's mrdienns. Lmao

[static badge]

what'd he get rolled for wiz

[void void]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/experiences-with-stackoverflow.417611/#post-3692008

[pulsar wigeon]

oh, he's not banned on discord atm cuz he never rejoined

[limber knot]

[wide chasm]

Thanks

[twin lagoon]

dennis

[woven otter]

I have an idea

[void void]

yeah anyone he wanna cry about SO downvoting his Q and how his question has nothing wrong

then i go look at it

and there's everything wrong with it

[limber knot]

lol

[worn ember]

marked as duplicate

[limber knot]

gib link

[jade narwhal]

Q: how do i summon a boat with a despawn timer (when no entity is in it) with nbt data?

[void void]

he makes assumptions in it, he has wildly specific examples, etc. SO's main tenant is MCVE. Minimal, Complete, Verifiable Example.

Yet, he has his specific code in there asking WHY DUNT DIS WEK

like some fucking fr00b

and he wonders why he's downvoted

[topaz mortar]

I'm not that experienced with GoLang to evaluate that.

[scenic bane]

ew

dennis

[void void]

the point being, if he had an MCVE (and thus a much better question), you might not NEED to know GoLang to help with it

[limber knot]

holy god every time I look at a spigot thread I'm reminded of how obnoxious all of those stupid banners in signatures are

[void void]

(might)

[twin lagoon]

@versed yacht

[scenic bane]

breaking news

minecraft rpg server not released yet appears on MCM for sale

[twin lagoon]

[woven otter]

@quasi valley this one is for you

[void void]

oh im not going into dyescape drama

im walking outta here

[limber knot]

turn me around again

[versed yacht]

calm your tits mate, i was merely asking if others had the same experience and what i did wrong

[limber knot]

that's mean

[scenic bane]

dennis said a bad word

unsubscribing

[void void]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-gif-10815306

[worn ember]

[pulsar wigeon]

nah that comes across as bitching tbh

[void void]

i just find the complaining hilarious, and the people agreeing with you are even funnier

[pulsar wigeon]

especially going to spigot forums to do it

[woven otter]

🍿

[void void]

like none of you understand SO, dont bother to learn, get downvoted, and fucking cry about it

it's insane

[scenic bane]

i was born on the spigot forums

[pulsar wigeon]

SO has some nice new user tours on how to ask good questions and shit

[versed yacht]

if you have constructive feedback to give, then give it, otherwise you're unnecessarily getting worked up over literally nothing

[void void]

yeah i gave it

[pulsar wigeon]

ignoring all that and then whining about it is

[void void]

it's called MCVEs, the main tenant of SO

use them

you'll stop being downvoted

i promise

[limber knot]

didn't you get worked up over so?

[wide chasm]

Tbh, I don't like SO either, so I just left and use other platforms

[upper flicker]

I like SO as a reference manual

[olive garden]

^^

[upper flicker]

there are pretty much always better places to go ask a question though

[void void]

that's what it is

it's not a "this is my specific code, what's the issue" website

which everyone uses it as

[worn ember]

complaining about SO on spigot forums
Complaining about someone complaining about SO on spigot forums in discord

[upper flicker]

that's a solid meme

[wide chasm]

SO as a reference manual is most of the time "here's the code, I'm not gonna tell you how it works" ime, so I don't use it for that either.

[void void]

@worn ember++

[woven otter]

you annoy paper with your questions

[void void]

however, my chief complaint actually if anyone scrolls up is people asking horrible questions

[wide chasm]

Sometimes there is good stuff, but articles almost always explain their answers.

[upper flicker]

They did intentionally build SO to avoid all the friendly/polite/story stuff and just be questions and answers, no fluff

[versed yacht]

im aware, I've seen the rambling

[void void]

i just kinda went on a tangent because maxim's complaining thread was a good example

[upper flicker]

and then made the community around that concept

so I suppose that's all thath appened

[void void]

fuck I KEEP SAYING MAXIM

[worn ember]

[upper flicker]

wat

[versed yacht]

dont get me wrong, i've had my fair share of help on SO

i was just asking if my experience matched others, and how to best ask stuff there

so like I said, if you have constructive criticism, might as well post it on the thread

[woven otter]

Imagine actually asking questions on SO tbh

[versed yacht]

but getting overly worked up on it seems like a waste of productivity

[wide chasm]

I think they have a guide on how to ask questions, but last time I followed that and I still got people complaining, so I honestly don't know.

[upper flicker]

you must be new here, the randoms in here spent a lot of time wasting productivity

[void void]

just use MCVEs and keep your problem statements short, that's how you win at SO

[upper flicker]

or well, potential productivity I suppose, not sure there's a lot of actual productivity to be had

[void void]

all the code in your SO question someone should be able to copy paste into their IDE and run. it should not require extra deps, or any extra files, or any extra context.

[versed yacht]

that's the thing, I thought I did that here. Sure, the plugin mechanism I asked about had nothing to do with it, and yes I should've checked beforehand, knowing that the plugin mechanism didnt affect my problem at all

then again, it does have all code to reproduce it

you can copy paste the code and run it

[void void]

yes but you also assumed it was a problem in Go Plugins, which it wasn't, it's not minimal

[versed yacht]

yes, i agree, and i should've checked that beforehand

[upper flicker]

tbh as far as SO goes that thread looked pretty tame. Downvoters gonna downvote.

[worn ember]

best SO edit

[static badge]

what was the thread

[upper flicker]

I dont think there were all that many issues in anyone's posts there

[static badge]

anyone got a link

[versed yacht]

if I left out the plugin (and align the code with it), what else is there wrong about it?

[void void]

scroll up leaf

[versed yacht]

I asked specifically for someone to explain thte idea behind a functiotn not accepting an implicit interface implementation

[wide chasm]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/experiences-with-stackoverflow.417611/

[upper flicker]

muh security darkeye

[versed yacht]

it wasnt anything like "why dis don werk"

i mean, maybe, but with more thought behind it because I thought it would work because of implicit interfaces

🤷‍♂️

[olive garden]

I don't know, I have never had negative experiences on SO

[slender dawn]

Hi all, anyone know what the rx is in the Debug?

[worn ember]

lmao

[void void]

nothing really, if you had proper minimal code it might take less to explain it so less chunk of text. i think that's the chief complaint from whoever DV'd you

[pulsar wigeon]

https://blog.codinghorror.com/what-does-stack-overflow-want-to-be-when-it-grows-up/ here we go i found it

[void void]

as a comment said, the plugins were a distraction

[static badge]

rx is receiving packets

tx is sending packets

[void void]

if you had not included that, it would be a better SO q

[pulsar wigeon]

blog post from the co-founder of SO of what the site is really meant to be

[slender dawn]

😎 thanks.

[static badge]

technically the t stands for transmit

[upper flicker]

idk that I'd hinge much on a few downvotes

[pulsar wigeon]

main takeaway from it: https://i.imgur.com/KFvmBZu.png

[upper flicker]

or try and assume what they wanted from you

SO has plenty of assholes buried in the troves of decent people

[versed yacht]

so all things summarised, if the plugin distraction wasnt there, it was a fine question?

or at least, acceptable to the point where its not downvoted

[pulsar wigeon]

this isn't reddit

downvotes aren't about hurting your score

[void void]

Yeah, I think they also complained about you using multiple examples

[pulsar wigeon]

it's about encouraging better questions

[void void]

You should really try to just have one solid example

[golden gust]

Speaking about solids

hai simpl

[versed yacht]

right, thanks

[void void]

like this part right here https://reeee.ee/V0cjCD.png

choose one or the other, not two; more than one adds confusion

[golden gust]

hows that virtual queue holding up dienns?

[versed yacht]

I thought you had to include everything you tried

is that not the case?

[void void]

you should compress everything you tried into one solid MCVE :D

[versed yacht]

@golden gust

@void void thanks, appreciate the feedback

[golden gust]

You know, the one you're using to set the world record with

dyescape I think it was called

runs

[versed yacht]

i'd rather have genuine and constructive feedback about something, rather than unnecessary gambling which people copy paste into my discord

so if you in the future want to complain about something i do, might as well tell me so i can improve on it

[upper flicker]

just going to steal that emote

[void void]

for the record i didnt ping you and didnt ask the other person to, i was just talking about bad questions in general and referenced your thread

[shell vine]

[static badge]

[upper flicker]

"I didnt mean to talk shit to your face just behind your back"

[void void]

^

[worn ember]

am i the only one annoyed by the fact you cant reorder windows in the taskbar?
Like i have the one on the right on my left screen and vise versa, really annoying that i cant reorder them there

[upper flicker]

yes

[versed yacht]

alright, no hard feelings

[worn ember]

i'm pretty hard rn

[void void]

i can help with that

looks at ring on my finger

oh wait, no i cant

[worn ember]

[static badge]

[void void]

hey leaf wanna help me do my calculus homework

[static badge]

post it here

[void void]

and by that

i mean

do my calculus homework for me

[static badge]

no

not doing it for u

[versed yacht]

did you confuse me with maxim btw

[void void]

[versed yacht]

cuz people do that more often lul

[void void]

yes i confuse you with maxim all the time

daily occurrence

[upper flicker]

how much stalking are you doing that it's a daily occurrence?

[void void]

none, i dont know much about either guy

they just look similar enough for me to confuse them

[worn ember]

[zealous knot]

[versed yacht]

he lives in fake netherlands

[olive garden]

what happened?

[void void]

oh mister_fix you're back

[versed yacht]

so he can look like dutchies

[zealous knot]

i was never gone

[void void]

@zealous knot you can delete jacob.engineer from sxcu

i let it expire

[zealous knot]

lmao what

[void void]

yea

its gone

[zealous knot]

why tho, it was a pretty decent domain

[worn ember]

[void void]

i got jacobandersen.dev instead

[zealous knot]

want me to fwd that instead?

[void void]

i didnt wanna pay $40 for .engineer

[worn ember]

cringe

[void void]

eh, I'm just use reeeee.ee

[zealous knot]

lmao

someone offered me to buy that domain from me lmao

[void void]

rip

[worn ember]

how much

[upper flicker]

$4

[zealous knot]

for $80

[void void]

i like it

[olive garden]

$4 is my domain

[zealous knot]

rip

[worn ember]

mines $12 and its more down than up

[zealous knot]

discord is dying

[worn ember]

looks like it

[zealous knot]

is it just me or is discord being mega slow

[peak dirge]

Discord is mega barfing

[zealous knot]

everyone press F in the chat for Discord

[pulsar wigeon]

no surprise there

[worn ember]

so it uploads my file and then says it failed

[void void]

what is the actual way to do this?

i mean my prof told me we can just analyze the sign (aka evaluate -5.01 and -4.99) or whatever. like, is that the thing it wants me to do? bc obv evaluating -5 itself puts 0 in the denom.

0 in num means DNE (usually, afaik??) but 0 in denom is a whole other thing

https://reeee.ee/XIk0K9.png

[pulsar wigeon]

https://i.imgur.com/j8gbopD.png is he stalking me now or something

[static badge]

0 in denominator is DNE

0 in numerator is 0

your problem wiz is you give him attention

[zealous knot]

lag test ignore this

[static badge]

that's all he wants

[pulsar wigeon]

creepy

imagine being that obsessed over a guy online

[zealous knot]

okay discord is not dead

yet

[left swift]

no u

[zealous knot]

no u

[static badge]

as x approaches -x simple boy

that limit exists

er

-5

[void void]

so what is sign analysis the thing to do? because testing just -5 just gives 10/0

[static badge]

yeah you can test it by putting in a number close to -5 I guess

[olive garden]

|x| is a tiny bit above 5 -> 5-(5+tiny) is less than 0
|x| is a tiny bit below 5 -> 5-(5-tiny) is more 0

[static badge]

you can also test it by checking 5 + x > 0 and 5 - |x| > 0

if x < -5, then 5 + x > 0

if x < -5, then 5 - |x| > 0

[olive garden]

so approaching x=-5 from the two directions does not converge on the same sign
tbh that's stupid, you still have to somehow prove they don't converge on 0

wtf is sign analysis

[void void]

choosing a number slightly smaller and slightly bigger and checking the sign or something, idk it might not be the right name for it

[static badge]

yeah

[void void]

you use it when there's a vertical asymptote or something which i thought denom 0 was 😭

[static badge]

they don't converge to the same value

wait that would be DNE then for -5

[worn ember]

[void void]

the answer is 1

i guess

[static badge]

wait

[void void]

i just put the function in my calculator and evaluate -5.001 and -4.999

and it said 1

[static badge]

yeah they both converge to the same sign

on left/right they do

[olive garden]

yeah, I was stupid, ignored the dividor

[void void]

oh that's right, if they were different signs it would be DNE

[olive garden]

would it?

it could be 0

[void void]

well

[olive garden]

+0 = -0

[void void]

at my level idk, my prof just says say DNE

im just calc 1

[static badge]

it's not 0

[void void]

we havent even had our first exam

[static badge]

only done calc 2

[void void]

or at least it would imply that one side approaches pos inf and the other approaches neg inf

idk i need to study lmfaoooo :(

[woven otter]

[static badge]

they both approach 1

as proven by finding the limit for -5+ and -5-

[void void]

yea i know in that case they do

ok now wtf https://reeee.ee/YveIVn.png this wasn't even in class, i would fucking remember

(i tried this the other day and gave up hence why answers lmao)

[static badge]

the key part is how that [ ] thing is defined

[static badge]

yes we know it's 1

[olive garden]

LHopital it is then

yeah, but why?

[static badge]

because the limit for -5+ and -5- are 1

[olive garden]

why?

[static badge]

because they are

[olive garden]

using a calculator is cheating

[static badge]

didn't use one

[olive garden]

then please explain

[static badge]

no this is calc 1

[void void]

so what's the other way... all we know is to use a calculator my dude

i dont know no fucking lhopital shit

[worn ember]

i never had calc 1

[static badge]

kek lhopital for that

you factor out 5 + x

is how you do it

[worn ember]

me: has headset on
also me: hears distant hurting sound
me:
me: then realizes minecraft doesnt switch audio devices automatically even in 2020

[olive garden]

so (5+x)/(5+x) = 1

okay, cool, thanks

[static badge]

well cancel out

me english great

[void void]

idk wtf yall are talking about

but ok

[golden gust]

My trick is that I use DPS

So, all my audio goes through a virtual card so to speak

[olive garden]

quakers....

simple: you should really learn LHopital's rule

it is pretty simple and very powerful

[void void]

ok but like

that's not going to help me if i dont know the fundamentals of calculus, which is the reason im taking the class in the first place

i would not be able to use that in an exam at this point and receive credit

[olive garden]

oh

well, calculus is cool, learn it instead of talking to me

[void void]

yes im trying

[olive garden]

Tested with 100 players online. TPS before patch: ~9.5, TPS after patch: ~15.5
Why do players even play on a server that has that low TPS?

[heady spear]

when x approaches -5, |x| approaches -(-5).
|x| is defined as x for x >= 0 and -x for x < 0. As we have a negative x, the numerator in this case is equivalent to 5 + x. Then you have (5 + x)/(5 + x) = 1

l'hôpital-ing is the most overkill way to solve that, gg WA

[static badge]

[void void]

wait wtf i didnt even think about (5+x)/(5+x)...

i legit plugged in -5.001 and -4.999

and got 1

:(

[olive garden]

if you had plugged in -5, you would have gotten MATH ERROR DIVISION BY 0

oh

I am missing the point, as usual

[void void]

yes i know, that's why i did those two, which is what my professor calls sign analysis

[static badge]

half assed sign analysis

change my mind

[void void]

i cant

i dont know why

[static badge]

[void void]

[static badge]

sane math courses wont let you use a calculator on a test for that reason tbh

literally sub in numbers to get solution no brain required

[void void]

[wide chasm]

That's why you force students to solve step by step.

(And give them a calculator)

[static badge]

retarded

[olive garden]

giving them a calculator still allows them to find the answer before they could solve it step-by-step

[void void]

idk if we just.. like? haven't learned yet? we're only in chapter 2 of our book and we skipped chapter 1

[olive garden]

literally how I solve all logarithmic equations

[warped spear]

how many threads should I give the async chunk loader on a quad core cpu

[olive garden]

-1

[void void]

or is my prof actually teaching us dangerous math

like

do i need to go drop lmfao

[static badge]

1 is good enough

[warped spear]

-1?

[static badge]

-1 will do

[heady spear]

We haven't been allowed to bring calculators to any calc exam

[olive garden]

isn't -1 the default?

[warped spear]

isn't tht disable

[static badge]

-1 means we'll pick

[olive garden]

and we are better than you /s

[wide chasm]

You still need to solve step-by-step, the end result is then irrelevant. If you know how to solve it by hand, you shouldn't need the calculator, you only have it to check that you didn't make a mistake in basic arithmetic.

[warped spear]

and these are threads as in cpu threads no as in threading code right

[void void]

so what's the by hand way lmfao. plugging in the fucking numbers???

the same...fucking..thing???

[static badge]

and that's why they don't give you the calculator

u don't need it

and u shouldn't

[olive garden]

you didn't convince me stef

[wide chasm]

You have an equation, you need to use formulas to resolve to a simpler equation, continue until you have an answer.

The calculator is mainly there for basic arithmetic and checking. Which are both useful.

[olive garden]

I literally try all kinds of stuff with relative primes to find correlations between stuff

all the time

[void void]

ok well our prof literally just told us to put the problem in our plot screen and then make a table in the calculator for this chapter

so, that's what im doing

sorry it's not math enough for yall

but im doin it

[static badge]

holy shit he's halfassing that

[void void]

before the calc we made tables on paper

so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

idk

[static badge]

ur math profs are sorta pepega ngl

[wide chasm]

Sounds like improvement 🙂

Not much, but still

[void void]

its the same fucking thing stef

we just plugged it in

[heady spear]

I think that's how we first learned about limits in the IB, iirc

like just trying to understand what it means for a value to approach something

[wide chasm]

Well, what do you prefer, write the table out, or plug it in? For you, the latter is probably easier.

[void void]

it doesnt matter, we plug it in anyway

whether we do that manually or with a calculator, the result is the same if you make a table

you have your set of X values, and you plug it in to get Y values and inspect where it's going

they're the same exact thing

[heady spear]

That's a pretty standard way of building intuition for limits tho

nothing weird about it

[wide chasm]

If you don't have to write out the table on paper, that's less work for you, or am I incorrect about that?

[void void]

yeah...? your point?? either way we're making tables and evaluating the thing multiple times. we haven't learned another way

[heady spear]

epsilon delta would be the formal way of explaining limits, but if you have no idea what they are to begin with then it's useless

[void void]

^ we skipped that

"it's for math majors" - prof

[wide chasm]

My point is that not having to write it out on paper is less work for you, hence an improvement for you.

[void void]

okay so now you're telling me it's better to use calcs after you finished shitting all over using calcs and telling me how i should solve it by hand yes?

even though solving it by hand is the SAME FUCKING THING

[wide chasm]

Wait what?

[heady spear]

I mean, if you don't need it and you can understand limits by observing what happens then that's fine

[wide chasm]

Those were completely unrelated.

[olive garden]

we didn't skip epsilon deltas, but the teacher didn't understand them and ended up making a pretty big mistake in the formal definition :/

[wide chasm]

I think it's better to solve by hand, but as a student, which I assume you are, using a calculator is obviously easier.

[heady spear]

We went through them and then I've never looked at epsilon deltas again lol

[void void]

um ok

[heady spear]

until now tbh

simple-dimple what book are you using?

[woven otter]

oh yes epsilon deltas thing cool beans

[void void]

calculus early transcendentals 8th edition by james stewart

it has a picture of shrek in the last chapter

[pulsar wigeon]

"calculus is like ogres...it has layers"

[heady spear]

o I don't think I've seen that one

[pulsar wigeon]

i think i know that book actually

[left swift]

lmfao

[olive garden]

"Using the chain rule is like peeling an onion: you have to deal with each layer at a time, and if it is too big you will start crying."

[void void]

havent even learned that yet

prof keeps mentioning it, and "soon"

i may have chosen a bad prof

idk

[left swift]

u havent learned about onions yet

[void void]

he loves telling stories in class and it's really distracting, but we're too far into class to switch now

[left swift]

are stories related or tangents lol

[olive garden]

my previous Literature and Grammar teacher watched movies of trains in class with us

[void void]

they're tangents about his time in puerto rico

[olive garden]

and told us stories about how she bought a boat in the USSR

[left swift]

lol

my cisco teacher also told us a bunch of random stories about his life when we were in class too

[void void]

ok, por qué fellas

https://reeee.ee/LYyiy9.png

lim x->8 [f(x)/g(x)] == lim x->8 f(x) / lim x->8 g(x) per limit laws, so 0/0 is indeterminate, hence no limit? or am i just braindead

oh

it exists but it's indeterminate

uh

i think

[static badge]

yeah

[woven otter]

reeee.ee

[olive garden]

now if you knew the LHopital's rule, you would know the answer /s

[heady spear]

ignoring the "/s", he wouldn't, as he knows squat about the derivatives :p

doesn't* lol

[void void]

we learned how to take a derivative

im really behind on hw

[heady spear]

Infinity/Infinity and 0/0 are tricky bastards

[pulsar wigeon]

nah

[heady spear]

I meant that you don't know anything about the derivatives of those functions

[pulsar wigeon]

they are well defined by IEEE754 :^)

[void void]

oh yea i dont city

[heady spear]

L'Hôpital is a way of evaluating indeterminate limits. But you needn't worry about that just yet

[void void]

im sure ill learn it eventually

we've only done chapter 2 of this book and about to have our first exam idk how much of the book we're doing

[heady spear]

we only have finals, I wish we had smaller exams too

because you really have no idea what the hell they're going to test you on most of the time

[void void]

i mean its more like a quiz

[heady spear]

even a quiz would be nice, we have nothing lol

[void void]

rip

[heady spear]

Then again, I guess we didn't have time

a course is generally 2.5 months

as we only take two at a time

[green turret]

Why do you guys know so much about calculus?

[void void]

i know jack shit about calculus

i depend on leaf

and now city

[static badge]

[green turret]

Did you actually retain all of this stuff or are you currently taking a course?

Admittedly, my last calculus course was like 10 years ago.

[heady spear]

I remember most shit from calc 1 and 2 I think, a lot of it comes up in higher level courses

[green turret]

Ahhhh why is it already 10 years ago!!

[void void]

old man

[olive garden]

I haven't taken calc 1 yet :/

[heady spear]

I doubt I'll remember all of this when I graduate but 🤷‍♂️

[green turret]

I'm not old!

[void void]

OLD MAN

SENILE MULE

[static badge]

[green turret]

Okay you can go in timeout young man

[olive garden]

it's been 24 hours since I PR-d a patch for a critical issue that lets players place freaking tripwire hooks in protected regions!!! Imagine all the griefing players are doing currently on those poor servers... Paper sucks, I am going to start my own fork

[static badge]

[heady spear]

agreed, let's start Tissue

[static badge]

jfc what a fork name

[olive garden]

yeah, since all these paper guys will need those tissue papers after we launch!

[green turret]

Ohh can I be the new wiz?

[void void]

every community needs a wiz to maintain law and order

[olive garden]

I don't know, you don't seem to be on the edge enough

we need someone who is borderline on the edge of speed overdose

[heady spear]

We need a new magma too

[olive garden]

and someone who randomly joins the chat just to hump people as well

[pulsar wigeon]

dunno mule you have a lot to live up to

[green turret]

oh fuck off, don't ping me, rtfm, you are all idiots, everyone but me is 🚮

[pulsar wigeon]

HOLD THE FUCK ON MULE

[wide chasm]

Lol

[static badge]

[olive garden]

lmao

[static badge]

PERFECT IMPRESSION

[pulsar wigeon]

that's incredibly inaccurate

[olive garden]

you're hired

[green turret]

Ahahahaha

[pulsar wigeon]

i would just say "everyone is 🚮 "

[vestal jasper]

[void void]

[heady spear]

@vestal jasper hi babe

[pulsar wigeon]

i'm EEOC :^)

[void void]

garbagemule for president, even if he is senile

[vestal jasper]

Oh

Bye

[heady spear]

he's from Denmark

[static badge]

no he's old enough simple

[olive garden]

if Bernie can do it, so can you!

[heady spear]

we don't want him

[static badge]

only ancient are allowed

[void void]

[vestal jasper]

@heady spear

[olive garden]

I'm a mule man

[worn ember]

Wtf theres an angry birds ad where the red bird fights the dualingo bird lmao

[olive garden]

/scatman lyrics/

[heady spear]

@vestal jasper 😍

[vestal jasper]

Ew u smell

[heady spear]

I've been collecting the stank just for you

[static badge]

oh god

[vestal jasper]

Leaf wants u tho

Go after him

[static badge]

fuck that

[heady spear]

who doesn't

[limber knot]

Uhh

[hard kernel]

Hi

[vestal jasper]

Bye

[hard kernel]

What would you recommend for a setup for just league of legends and minecraft?

[green turret]

My computer can do both!

[olive garden]

19820x1080 monitor

[void void]

'just' minecraft

[hard kernel]

So can mine.. I just want better fps

[olive garden]

aspect ratio of 18.35 : 1 is the best

[hard kernel]

And to rid of my current i7

[olive garden]

that was totally not a typo

[green turret]

It's an Intel Q9450, 8 GB memory, 512 MB ATI HD4850. From 2008. Runs like a dream!

[olive garden]

I don't know, I use a core i3

[green turret]

Hey if you want to just get rid of your i7 then I can take it off your hands

[hard kernel]

I was looking at the 3950x but might be overkill

[green turret]

It doesn't even matter what gen it is, it's better than mine xD

[wide chasm]

My PC can run MC. At ~10 fps.

[hard kernel]

Keep in mind I dont know how to do overclocking stuff

Garbage where u live

[green turret]

Don't you just crank up the multiplier nowadays?

Denmark!

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/Dp0_kl48pyg

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Angry Birds X Duolingo | The Team-Up! - length 2m - 1,160 likes, 44 dislikes (96.3%) - 18,388 views - Angry Birds on 2020.02.18

[green turret]

Now back in my day we used to LOWER the multiplier when overclocking. Can you believe it? We would increase the FSB instead. So the memory had to be capable of running at that clock speed.

[hard kernel]

Denmark is too far

[green turret]

Also the AGP slot could get all funky because of it. What a mess.

Wow racist

[hard kernel]

Lol

[wide chasm]

Racism?! Not in this guild. grabs ban hammer

[upper flicker]

racism against denmark

man 2020 is wild

[hard kernel]

That's wiz job

I am not racist for denmark

Is denmark danish?

All the danish people I met have been cool

[upper flicker]

brb making an #ask-a-dane for you to answer questions in garbagemule

[hard kernel]

...

[static badge]

isn't a dane a type of dog

[hard kernel]

U wont

Leaf that's not racist tho

[static badge]

wat

[austere ivy]

:buffering:

[hard kernel]

💩

[austere ivy]

BEH

[static badge]

rip no nitro

[green turret]

Great Danes are dogs. Amazing Danes are mules.

[static badge]

ok

[austere ivy]

What about Dane Danes or Great Amazings?

[green turret]

Grazing Manes are herbivore lions.

[austere ivy]

what's the origin of yourusername?

[unreal quarry]

Mazing Gains are from a little blue pill

runs away

[austere ivy]

actually what plugin did you make? I feel like I've seen your name somewhere but I don't recall

[static badge]

mobarena

what a plugin tbh

up there with mcmmo

[austere ivy]

:pog:

[green turret]

I needed an email for signing up for random shit and forums trashdonkey was taken.

[austere ivy]

:I

[static badge]

trashdonkey

[austere ivy]

oh yeah

spigot vs bukkit for publishing plugins

what do you prefer?

[green turret]

Then that email never got any spam and so I ended up just kinda using it more. My old handle is almost taken nowadays.

[fast fern]

Guys is there any updated post of java flags for the start script?

[austere ivy]

I'm a fan that Bukkit has this:

makes it easy to know which version to use

[wide chasm]

dev.bukkit.org is really nice

[austere ivy]

.flags

[limber knot]

Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs

[austere ivy]

@fast fern

is that what you mean?

[worn ember]

🐃

[austere ivy]

you know I think one of the true most important questions in the universe is

will mobarena ever reach version 1.0.0?

[fast fern]

Thanks, been trying with those flags but is not working just freezes my console

[green turret]

MobArena v1.0 is gonna drop on the 10 year anniversary day.

Which would be next year!

[upper flicker]

mobarena has never been at 1.0?

[olive garden]

congrats

[void void]

assume you dont croak first, old man

[wide chasm]

I'll be waiting

[green turret]

Yeah it's 0.104.2 now

[wide chasm]

For the release that is

[olive garden]

I remember being 10 years old and enjoying it or something like that

<3

[wide chasm]

Yeah, I used it before, it's fun

[upper flicker]

if the new mobarena does nothing except provoke nostalgia about how good old mob arena was, I'm sure itll do fine

[void void]

104 minor versions what are you going to do to the poor thing next year

[green turret]

So the ultimate goal is to be able to recreate some of my favorite dungeons and boss encounters from WoW in Minecraft. That requires a pretty big overhaul of a couple of core features. I keep getting stuck because the code base is such a mess at this point. I think 1.0 might be a complete rewrite, in which case it makes backwards incompatibility sorta kinda okay :P

[golden gust]

That's basically mcMMO right now

[void void]

okay yea rewrite makes sense but damn that minor ver streak rip

[golden gust]

The codebase is such a mess that you look at touching anything and you just wanna rewrite the whole damned thing

patching issues on the current release is horrible, because you go to touch something and have to fight the "just rewrite it" urge

[green turret]

Pull something up by the roots and the whole thing just unravels and breaks xD

Yep!

Very relatable

[void void]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-steve-carell-lip-bite-mistake-gif-4166571

cat while looking at mcmmo

[wide chasm]

Like putting everything up the attic and then pulling down the ladder. Everything falls and breaks.

[green turret]

Simple, I think maybe 50 of those minor versions got lost in a weird build automation mayhem I ventured into way too early on. One of the earliest real releases was like 0.67.

[void void]

[wide chasm]

Cheater

[green turret]

I didn't really know what constituted a new version :P

Now I sort of bunch new features up into minor releases and bug fixes in patch releases. Bit closer to something that resembles semver.

[olive garden]

very good, you have improved so much

I'm proud of you

[green turret]

Thanks!

I might get two weeks off this Easter. Maybe then I can work on the sessions rework! :O

And maybe I'll fall into some stupid rabbit hole like I often do.

[olive garden]

I wish you luck, you deserve it

[void void]

Why was this even in my calc homework, is this not basic algebra

https://reeee.ee/XQxphu.png

whatever, free points

[olive garden]

I have never seen that notation

[void void]

which

[olive garden]

but I'm proud of you, so many good answers!

[pulsar wigeon]

composite functions?

[olive garden]

yes

[pulsar wigeon]

o-o

is that not like, high school math?

[void void]

yea

that's basic stuff

im sure you've seen it

maybe just forgot

[olive garden]

well, h(x) = f(x) + g(x) -- sure

but not h(x) = (f + g)(x)

[void void]

ah, i mean, idk

[olive garden]

different countries, different notations I guess

or more like some countries don't teach some stuff

[void void]

you've seen unions haven't you?

[olive garden]

yes lol

[void void]

what country are you o.O

[olive garden]

Hungary

[void void]

Oh ok

[olive garden]

eg. we use [, ] for intervals, eg. ]0; 1], Germans (?) would use (0; 1] instead

I think

oh, and so do you

[pulsar wigeon]

damn hungarians and their math

looking at you erdos

[olive garden]

best thing is: we swapped what . and , mean

[limber knot]

oooh it's getting racist up in here

[void void]

yeah most EU countries do that afaik

[pulsar wigeon]

nah, . and , is a common thing

yup

[olive garden]

oh okay

[limber knot]

my desktop uses the eurpoean , and . because i added a german keyboard once and i haven't changed it back

[void void]

it really did trip me up when i went out of the US for the first time but i travel a lot these days so it doesnt bother me at all anymore

wtf? https://reeee.ee/cNMcJz.png

the temp at a specific time as a func of dist west of NYC may jump, so its probably not continuous. the sea level might jump, probably not continuous. the current definitely jumps on/off. how are these other two wrong

[limber knot]

temp will generally always be continuous

[wide chasm]

The taxi price could jump right? The price could be above x km, it's y dollars, above z it's w, etc.

[limber knot]

only way it won't be is if you have a container made of an infinitely non-conductive material

[static badge]

the altitude one is also continuous

[limber knot]

yup

[void void]

i've selected those two, the first four, the first three, and all of those are wrong

[limber knot]

well

altitude in theory you could say a cliff would be noncontinuous

[void void]

i dont know what it wants

yes my thought exactly.

[limber knot]

first 2 maybe

[wide chasm]

Perhaps current as well? Bit of a stretch imo

[olive garden]

all temperatures are kind of continuous I guess, if you travel slowly enough, but then you enter the particle-level stuff, which is not continuous

[void void]

and temp as a function of distance could jump, because temp in cali and temp in nyc could be completely discontinuous

[limber knot]

nah, square waves are non-continuous

temp can't jump no

temp 2.0000 km west of nyc and temp at 2.00001 km west will be nearly the same

etc

for any given x

[void void]

alright so lmfao, idk, im skipping this fucking problem, it's not even math at this point. it's think about what the graph might look like and tell me the proper order these checkmarks should be submitte in

[wide chasm]

Are they square in practice? I thought they were square in theory, but still have some kind of upwards/downwards motion in practice.

[olive garden]

aren't they a sine wave? lol

I kinda suck at electronics

[wide chasm]

Same

[limber knot]

yea maybe actually

like, combined sinusoidals

[void void]

oh it wont even let me try again

so fuck it

[wide chasm]

Yeah, that question is stupid

[limber knot]

but like, is this amount of nitpicking really what the question requires

cuz that's retarded

[olive garden]

it's way too ambiguous

yeah

[void void]

im sending this to the prof https://reeee.ee/Sli3MU.png

on the problem

oh god

just watch him pull that shit up in class and call me out

can;t wat

can't wait

[mental oriole]

Nice

[void void]

either that or he'll be like "this question ain't shit compared to my life in puerto rico"

[olive garden]

lol

[void void]

im not kidding, he does shit like that

he's like "what do you do if you can't solve a problem"

PUNCH IT

LIKE IN PUERTO RICO

then he goes back to math

[peak dirge]

Didn't know they taught a more violent version of math in Puerto Rico. I guess our lazy math approach here in America counts for something.

😛

[void void]

i think the dude is just insane

[peak dirge]

I agree, he's probably insane

I've had some truly awful teachers

...ask someone else?

[void void]

I mean

I tried that question 8 times, and then it stopped me from trying again

at which point i submitted that "question"

so im just moving on

[lunar lotus]

can i host a domain locally or smth?

like for free

[static badge]

host a domain locally

?

[void void]

yep finally a use for

[shell vine]

[static badge]

anyone know what this old prune rank is for

[shell vine]

old ppl

[void void]

@lunar lotus ima need you to clarify your question

[lunar lotus]

like instead of getting a domain for money or whatever on google domains can i do that on my computer locally?

[void void]

no.

there are free domains you can get, like .tk

and some others

[shell vine]

sorta, you could edit yours hosts file, but it will only be for your computer

[void void]

but no, you can't get a normal TLD

oh well i mean, yea he's correct about that but if you want a public domain no

[unreal quarry]

Just get a free .tk domain, or use a free dyndns service

Lots of options out there

[shell vine]

yea noip.com has a few options

[void void]

leaf https://reeee.ee/Ia2dV8.png

so first i tried to just plug 2 in everywhere but then i remembered irrationals aren't continuous (that one is, afaik? but in general?) so I raised the whole deal to the x power and cancelled that shit, then plugged 2 in and got 4 and it was correct lmao

can you explain in a less retarded way

oop no it's not continuous

i graphed it

[shell vine]

nvm ur not old ur still in classes

[static badge]

that one you plug in

[void void]

it has a jump discontinuity at 0

wat @shell vine

[static badge]

doesn't matter

[austere ivy]

hld up hold up

is dot.tk completely free?

seems sketchy

[static badge]

at x = 2 it's cont.

[void void]

wtf discord, sotp

[static badge]

and it asks for x = 2

[void void]

freenom.com as wekl

well

[austere ivy]

at

what cost?

[shell vine]

https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/679464273897848859

[void void]

idk selling your data like google etc. perhaps

wdym leaf, if i plug it in i get sqrt(4) which should be 2, but the answer is 4

which makes sense when you cancel the radical

[austere ivy]

hmm

[static badge]

there's an x before it

[austere ivy]

think thonk

[static badge]

xsqrt(8-x^2)

[void void]

oh i thought that was the x root

lmao

so i raised it to the x power to cancel it

[static badge]

[void void]

it worked though

SEND HELP

oh jesus now i see the light

[austere ivy]

think

HMMMM

DOT.TK LOOKS AWFULLY SIMILAR TO FREENOM.COM

[void void]

thats because freenom owns it

dumbass

lots of free domains are taken because they're free

people just botted the hell out of em

you get what you pay for

[austere ivy]

unfair

I want a refund

actually

for emotional trauma I want $100

[warped spear]

how does paper play with java 12

or better yet java 14

[void void]

what's the method to find c here :/ https://reeee.ee/de9mvt.png

[static badge]

make it cont. at 3

[void void]

yes but how do you find c to do so...

[granite salmon]

i have ran paper on java 13

above 13 you have to manually edit paper to enable i think

[static badge]

sub in 3 for x

you'll want both of those things to be the same when x = 3

[warped spear]

ok am considering giving zgc a try

g1gc is kinda shitty if your using a lot of ram

[void void]

into the bottom one, because x>=3 states use x^3-cx correct?

in that case, i get f(3) = (3)^3-c(3) => f(3) = 27-3c => -3c = -27 => 3c = 27 => c = 9

which is wrong

[warped spear]

@granite salmon how did it handle java 13

[void void]

or am i just straight up missing the point

[granite salmon]

it just... works

do you mean if it performs better

or worse

[warped spear]

well or bad

yeah

yeah

or any issues

well or bad

[granite salmon]

i did not really see a noticeable change for better or worse than java 8

[warped spear]

like do you get chunk lag or anything like that

[void void]

my god just go test it

[warped spear]

I can't rn im out

[granite salmon]

no issues

damn discord slooow

sorry discord is dying to hell for me

jesus everything just came through

[warped spear]

is java 12 or 13 the stable one

[granite salmon]

13

is lta

lts

so is 11

[void void]

wtf you have to plug 3 into both even though it's piecewise and it says fucking not to?

what is this shit

[warped spear]

ok

openjdk 13 it is

[granite salmon]

no issues

[warped spear]

good to know

[granite salmon]

wtf

[warped spear]

like do you get chunk lag or anything like that

wtf its reposting my messages

discord is having a siezure

[granite salmon]

my message ujust repeated

and discord dead again

[void void]

yes we know, discord is having issues, we dont need to keep notifying everybody

[granite salmon]

yep

[warped spear]

well once I get out of class going to give zgc a try

g1gc sucks above 8 gigs of ram and with mc abovee 1.14.4

or any issues

[granite salmon]

1.14+ is pretty shitty ngl

idk how they messed it up so bad

[warped spear]

the new gc like shenandoah helped

but my server is on ubuntu and tryna get it to run on ubuntu sucks

so going to use zgc instead

or go back to cms

[void void]

yes we know, discord is having issues, we dont need to keep notifying everybody

yes we know, discord is having issues, we dont need to keep notifying everybody

[granite salmon]

you use the openj9 right

yes we know plain ty for repeating 😉

[cyan field]

t

[worn ember]

Ironic

[warped spear]

lmao

[cyan field]

t

[granite salmon]

im sorry but that is just so funny

[void void]

not really, it's discord having issues you dumbfucks

[cyan field]

Discord is being slow rn...

[warped spear]

but my server is on ubuntu and tryna get it to run on ubuntu sucks

[worn ember]

I think you have issues

Ironic

[granite salmon]

lmaoo

[warped spear]

rn openjdk8

[worn ember]

... wtf

[warped spear]

ahh

[granite salmon]

my message ujust repeated

[warped spear]

lmao

ok

[trim steeple]

what do I do about the "The server has not responded for 10 seconds! Creating thread dump" warnings?

[granite salmon]

yep

ironic irony

[worn ember]

Ahaha gg discord I'ma just go sleep

[void void]

not really, it's discord having issues you dumbfucks

[granite salmon]

yep

[warped spear]

im so confused

[granite salmon]

i did not really see a noticeable change for better or worse than java 8

[trim steeple]

what do I do about the "The server has not responded for 10 seconds! Creating thread dump" warnings?

[granite salmon]

you use the openj9 right

[void void]

ok

[warped spear]

lmao

[granite salmon]

Hahahahhaa

Hahahahhaa

[cyan field]

Discord is being slow rn...

[warped spear]

im so confused

[void void]

ok

[granite salmon]

i said that so long ago wtf

[worn ember]

Ahaha gg discord I'ma just go sleep

[granite salmon]

discord

[warped spear]

im so confused

[trim steeple]

what do I do about the "The server has not responded for 10 seconds! Creating thread dump" warnings?

[worn ember]

Ahaha gg discord I'ma just go sleep

[granite salmon]

ironic irony

[worn ember]

Ahaha gg discord I'ma just go sleep

[warped spear]

he could save others but not himself

[granite salmon]

Hahahahhaa

[warped spear]

he could save others but not himself

he could save others but not himself

[granite salmon]

Hahahahhaa

WTF LOL

WTF LOL

WTF LOL

[warped spear]

rn openjdk8

[granite salmon]

can anyone see this time is 6 mins past

[warped spear]

he could save others but not himself

[void void]

ok