irc never forgets
#general
limber knotBOT
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simple is just being retarded
limber knotBOT
just a normal day then
void void
WHY YOU DO THIS TO ME
upper flicker
it does need an update doe
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so it is broken 
upper flicker
the libs updated to make it respect it discord's webhook rate limiting
which may make it bad
but might also keep it from getting randomly ratelimited
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egads
upper flicker
so iunno
void void
inb4 if (user.getNick().equalsIgnoreCase("simpleauthority")) return;
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what's the rate limit
upper flicker
no idea
upper flicker
void void
why didn't it ratelimit for you but did for me
void void
time to try to figure out why one of my rest endpoints infinitely loads
upper flicker
š®
limber knotBOT
disgusting
.g discord webhook rate limit
(Streamfrost) https://discordapp.com/developers/docs/topics/rate-limits -- Discord Developer Portal ā Documentation ā Rate Limits: "Not every endpoint has an endpoint-specific ratelimit, so for those endpoints there is only the global rate limit applied.By "per-route," we mean..."
upper flicker
no u
latent valve
u no what ?
merry talon
fair pecan
stiff yarrow
emotional trauma should have a cooldown, pls nerf
void void
what the hec
this one specific endpoint in my app takes FOUR FUCKING MINUTES to run
but it has the resp ready as seen in debug...
so wtf is it doing...
oh how nice, 1 minute this time
knotty pollen
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rip nossr
stiff yarrow
its okay I was traumatized nearly my entire childhood and it only made me severely disabled
warm anchor
barren bear
void void
still not sure what the problem was but i switched from RestTemplate and ResponseEntity to WebClient and Mono and it's fine now.
Whatever. Lmao
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removed streams?
cosmic raft
@static badge https://github.com/KyoriPowered/text/commit/a48137372520b3b5ba29cbcb274b3b2a8555a1a1#diff-2475c8594066c83f17939f8fbcf82429R145
cosmic raft
:)
austere ivy
hmmm
Pardon my horrendous debugging practices, why is MAGENTA_GLAZED_TERRACOTTA not Directional?
We're reaching "thus far 3" whatever but not "thus far 4."
duh am dum block isn't instanceof directional I need to get blockdata
thank you anyway
austere ivy
ah hek wrong channel whoops.
cosmic raft
#paper-dev you blind bat
cosmic raft
hello sarcastic
void void
why did you come back to general
woven otter
grizzled iron
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vestal jasper
Leaf ur retarded
quasi valley
Can confirm
left swift
Leafy
warped spear
well my ubuntu ewaste server runs pretty well
void void
is there a way to find the coordinates of existing nether portals in both worlds?
acoustic pilot
smoke weed every day
vestal jasper
burn leaves every day
cedar spade
just got an actual "I'm from minecraft server list pls give me op to rate ur server"
I thought that was the stuff of legends
warm owl
hahah i love those
"Yeah, sure, here, have OP... enjoy the freedom to use EVERY command on my server... you betcha"
cedar spade
sadly I was asleep when it happened but we got a log on Discord
vestal jasper
I've had people try to harass me and call me a shit owner for not giving them free ranks upon request
like fuck off and earn ur shit you retard
warm owl
Ive had that too
void void
i made some really good red label tea but also it's 11:20pm
i prob shouldnt drink this
but smh, it's hot and smells so gud
warm owl
its either OP, ranks, STAFF
"Can I have X?"
"No"
"fuck you loser, whore, faggot, whatever other bad words.... your server is trash, fuck you, die, kill yourself"
"Right. ok then"
makes me laugh every damn time
it's 11:20pm
west coast = best coast!
void void
i prefer west coast of the philippines but this will do for now
void void
its more fun in the philippines
warm owl
are you in the USA?
void void
yes
warm owl
then yeah. I could see the Philippines being more fun š
void void
wut
warm owl
Im from Canada, i was trying to be funny, dont think it worked
cedar spade
I don't know if they were being ironic or not
warm owl
the person asking for OP?
void void
https://www8.gmanews.tv/webpics/v3/2012/01/640_logo_intl.jpg
that's the slogan for the dept of tourism in PH
cedar spade
Some random guy on the server pretended to be the owner and handled it pretty well lol
warm owl
oh haha
cedar spade
Ye shane
warm owl
99.945% of the time, its just some kid who thinks "Imma ask for OP, the owner might be stupid and give it to me"
Like, when in the history of servers do people ACTUALLY give away OP?
verbal surge
warm owl
"Are you owner"
"Sure, why not"
š¤£
cedar spade
dont judge a book by its cove
warm owl
that was quite entertaining .... like wtf he need OP for? "to test things out" !?!?!?!
warm owl
so freaking funny "sure, why not"
the "Are you owner" bit
you mean "r u owner"
very profeshunal
vestal jasper
owo
warm owl
yes, i spelled that wrong on purpose š¤£
set your nick to "ruOwner"
I find it hilarious these kids have the nerve to pull this crap.
It saddens me there are server owners (children) who are stupid enough to fall for it
void void
the same people that fall for it are the people that do it
void void
what do you want
olive garden
help, clearly
verbal surge
mc helppppppp
void void
ASK YOUR GODDAMN QUESTION
verbal surge
I NEED HELP WITH MY MC SERVER
void void
Jesus christ
warm owl
or just spam "help" a few more times... that'll solve your issue
void void
I don't have time for this
warm owl
i was being sarcastic you moron
verbal surge
Lol ik
wide chasm
Please don't spam
verbal surge
ok
vestal jasper
who is this retard
void void
fucking annoying
verbal surge
no
warm owl
try it
verbal surge
idk how to do any command
void void
@verbal surge listen if you want help go to #paper-help and clearly describe the problem you're having, we aren't mind readers and we don't like to be spammed. so get over yourself, go the proper channel, ask a clear question, and then be patient.
thanks.
bye
warm owl
^ Yeah!
golden gust
simple smells
olive garden
cat, do you prefer to drop patches or commits? if something is expected to be unnecessary after some time, should it be a new patch or can it also be a patch modification?
cedar spade
Patch the patches out
olive garden
can I patch you out?
void void
worn ember
Ok. I'll join you. I make ur code very good yes
woven otter
Ur code gay
void void
uncut skiff
void void
placid quartz
still cape
hi, can anyone here confirm for me that forge and optifine for 1.15.2 are not yet compatible?
warm owl
OptiFine 1.15.2_HD_U_G1_pre3
- not working: shaders, antialiasing, anisotropic filtering, render regions and custom sky
- other features may also not be working correctly
- fixed Natural Textures and Better Snow
- fixed visual artifacts when manually placing blocks
- fixed buttons in Chat Settings screen
- fixed render distance above 32
- fixed lighting of magma blocks
- fixed handheld item flicker with dynamic lights
- fixed dynamic lights for block entities and particles
- updated to 1.15.2
- not compatible with Forge <----------------------------------------
thank you for the info
warm owl
yw
still cape
yeah i know
warm owl
it took so long because mojang made a lot of changes to their render engine
granite salmon
f
still cape
i had reset my server (we were live 5 years) and started over, i had a few plugins i really liked that were becoming the foundation for new and exciting things... and of course those are the ones that aren't being updated, not sure if they ever will... like advanced drop manager, and conditional recipes... i reckon i can find alternatives but i already made a lot of customized drops/items with those two plugins. grr
warm owl
well luckily all my crap is open source š
warm owl
dont look at my crap š you'll make fun of me š¦
still cape
yeah well i had paid attention to see if they were regularly updated and before now they had been (both have the same dev)
might have something to do with one or both plugins using PhoenixAPI which has stopped updating
golden gust
Yea, that's another thing I avoid
warm owl
I very much dislike plugins that rely on other plugins
golden gust
plugins which depend on other stupid frameworks which are pointless
golden gust
Like, I understand throwing your command stuff into a library, and your UI type stuff into a library, heck, I can understand why with spigots limits you might wanna throw that in a plugin to avoid the size limits
but, like... That's shit that you ensure that if you /reeaaaaallly/ gotta is opensource and available to diddle with
vestal jasper
there's also a difference between your plugins relying on your own shit
vs your plugins relying on someone else's shit
you can update ur own shit
warm owl
^ 100%
ebon otter
worn ember
in other words: cat doesnt use any one elses plugins cuz they all stoopid
pastel skiff
OptiFine 1.15.2_HD_U_G1_pre3 - not working: shaders, antialiasing, anisotropic filtering, render regions and custom sky - other features may also not be working correctly - fixed Natural Textures and Better Snow - fixed visual artifacts when manually placing blocks - fixed buttons in Chat Settings screen - fixed render distance above 32 - fixed lighting of magma blocks - fixed handheld item flicker with dynamic lights - fixed dynamic lights for block entities and particles - updated to 1.15.2 - not compatible with Forge <----------------------------------------
@warm owl I had this issue with bungee where I go in the portal and then all the blocks textures are clear even wwhen I go back toi HUB
sudden parrot
dapper nacelle
I meant when the user is logged in and goes to the login screen```
- log the user out
- don't log the user out and log the user in to a different account only after he successfully logged in as a different user
- redirect to the homepage
wat? you want to log out the user when they log in? 
wide chasm
I'd go for D.
limber knotBOT
I would just make the site explode after login
wide chasm
Welcome back, boom
dapper nacelle
rip the IRC users btw bc of that edit
wide chasm
I'd just show a message saying that they are already logged in, with a button to sign them out.
dapper nacelle
redirect to home + message
golden gust
I mean, it's a login screen, they're already logged in
limber knotBOT
why would they go to a login screen
golden gust
usual path would be to send them somewhere sane
limber knotBOT
yea
wide chasm
I'd at least throw a message in there somewhere.
dapper nacelle
I don't know why they would go to the login screen but I have to handle that
limber knotBOT
if they want to relog, they either need to log out or have a special "switch accounts" button
forward them to the default page they'd see after logging in
dapper nacelle
that'd pretty easy to make
nocturne umbra
left swift
Is that a spotify theme or something
left swift
Looks cleaner
left swift
Does spotify allow custom skins that would be dope
dapper nacelle
no clue
/**
* @ORM\Column(type="json")
* @Groups({"user:read", "admin:write"})
*/
private $roles = [];
```ah yes lets expose the roleswhat could go wrong
its not like anyone can make authorized requests on frontend by changing the roles I store on frontend for frontend purposes
twin lagoon
@left swift it is possible actually
it's called "spicetify"
used it before when ricing my setup
oak robin
rain sun
frozen jacinth
anyone know anyways to upload a really large file to the internet? (e.g 30gb)
pulsar wigeon
fast internet, or a lot of patience
upper flicker
google drive, your own private server
as far as uploading itself, just pick something that's resumable
especially if your internet is like mine
frozen jacinth
wait are you saying I can upload a file of 30gb to google drive?
Oh I can if I pay Ā£1.59/month. That's actually pretty good.
upper flicker
supposedly
they're one of the few that let you do larger~ish files like that
idk how much google stuff you use, 1.5 euro/month wouldnt be too bad if youre a heavy google user anyway
cosmic raft
or you can split the file into files of 700MB each and burn them onto CDs and mail the CDs
upper flicker
well if youre going to do that, use DVDs, or better yet a hard drive, or even tape
no wait
floppies
not the new ones either, the old literally floppy ones
upper flicker
or 25,000 of the original floppies
cosmic raft
kek
upper flicker
these big dumb things https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/gg/up/sshot505c90c1e169a.jpg.pagespeed.ce.P7p3JeaxRo.jpg
cosmic raft
"Please insert disk 17364 of 25000"
"Please insert disk 17365 of 25000"
"Error. Please restart from disk 1."
upper flicker
lol
frozen jacinth
lol
limber knotBOT
god I hate working with FAWE, now they broke their maven repo ;_;
pulsar wigeon
then don't š
limber knotBOT
unfortunately not my decision in that case
pulsar wigeon
how much you getting paid for that 
limber knotBOT
not much, but it's for a friend xD
pulsar wigeon
"I'm not gay, but $5 is $5"
- phoenix616
limber knotBOT
( Ķ”Ā° ĶŹ Ķ”Ā°)
I wonder if I can just add it to my jenkins and have it install to that repo directly...
upper flicker
yes
limber knotBOT
no idea how to do that with gradle though, lol
upper flicker
you'd just do it with maven and then tell gradle to use mavenLocal()
pulsar wigeon
if you even manage to build it locally tbh
limber knotBOT
I mean the other way around, FAWE is using gradle
pulsar wigeon
kinda hit or miss if it builds or not at any given point
running a full build generally installs to local maven repo
upper flicker
pretty sure there's some way to deploy maven artifacts from gradle, given it uses maven for all that crap
pulsar wigeon
unless they have some jank setup
limber knotBOT
I doubt their setup is anything but jank
pulsar wigeon
i mean, upstream (WE) has an install task for gradle
sooooo ./gradlew build install in theory but
gl
š
left swift
Just fax the files to where you need to go then scan them back into the computer
pulsar wigeon
left swift
Better run to a store gonna need some fax paper
pulsar wigeon
just a bit
left swift
Maybe a forest or two
Y you delete ur message be bold sir
Oh he moved it
Even bolder
void void
heady spear
I decided to actually document the new API in PlotSquared. This feels foreign to me
limber knotBOT
docs are for scrubs
heady spear
I just like breaking stuff and then refusing to tell people how to update
sonic rampart
woven otter
Plotsquared is for scrubs
fallen oracle
Let's see the documentation
limber knotBOT
a note that says "see impl"
heady spear
https://github.com/IntellectualSites/PlotSquared/wiki/API-Flag
- there's javadoc
one of the few places in plotsquared where the code is documented at all
fallen oracle
Well done.
woven otter
not assuming code is self explanatory and writings docs tbh
heady spear
- we've added descriptions to all 65+ flags
fallen oracle
I used to write way too much documentations, I've been cutting back.
heady spear
I only really do it because flags are a very big part of PlotSquared, and that's what most plotsquared addons tend to interact with
I care far more about end user documentation than developer documentation, though
But it's a neat way to test if the API is well designed or not. If the documentation is easy to write, the API is probably decent. If it's super complicated to explain then you've designed a bad API
fallen oracle
Fair enough
heady spear
o wanna see a bloody nightmare
https://github.com/IntellectualSites/PlotSquared/blob/v4/Core/src/main/java/com/github/intellectualsites/plotsquared/plot/database/SQLManager.java
I opened this file and then I closed the IDE
fallen oracle
That crashes my browser on mobile
heady spear
lmao
pulsar wigeon
git filter-branch can help you out
topaz mortar
City most of the lines can be reduced by moving the inner classen in an own file.
heady spear
It should be completely redone tbh
we didn't design the database interaction shit properly and then we just built upon the bad
topaz mortar
Oh, read the last 100 lines and assumed that this type of "behaviour" is everywhere.
Yes needs a full rewrite.
heady spear
But I just don't want to
topaz mortar
I should stop scrolling. I do not want either. The last time I rewrote a feature of a plugin written like that it ends up in 2 days of fully refactoring. Was a nightmare.
heady spear
We've already spent over a week rewriting the flag stuff
that wasn't fun either, but at least it's basically done š
topaz mortar
The data migration process will be a nightmare, too.
sand vale
anyone know of a plugin to turn observers into automatic observers?
worn ember
@heady spear ur bad built upon shit
heady spear
stop being racist
peak dirge
now you can do the very fastest a sinks
heady spear
AeSix is creepy!!! Ban him!!
void void
Viper welcome to what mathematicians have been trying to do forever
Everyone else, sawp
heady spear
simple stinks
worn ember
Whomstnt
void void
viper basically find a well known prime number algorithm just as the sieve of eratosthenes and then throw all your computing power at it, it's not a new problem
if you really care about it, join the fight to find God's Preferred Prime Number Algorithm Search (aka invent a new algorithm that is somehow faster)
;)
few years ago some company was paying mils for that
some privacy company, i dont remember
worn ember
Stop running you're already anorexic from running too much
void void
limber knotBOT
I heard running is good for your health :P
left swift
If you can outrun ur problems they will stop existing
warped spear
well zerotier performs pretty well if you have a wired gigabit connection on linux for a 1.15.2 server
was able to have multiple friends online with no issue
highest ping was 32ms
warped spear
now I need to get shenadoah to work on ubuntu
worn ember
Imagine having multiple friends at once
heady spear
u don't even have one so that must be hard
warped spear
me or the guy above you
heady spear
dark
worn ember
Whos dark
heady spear
honeslty suck my pp
worn ember
Honestly. Sure
warped spear
what is the hate for things like zerotier
like I get that hamachi and tungle sucked
zerotier is easy and fast as hell though
limber knotBOT
I don't see anyone hating
heady spear
I hate phoenix
old anchor
limber knotBOT
(besides the fact that ZeroTier is not fully open source I guess)
heady spear
hamachi was the fucking thinggg back in the wow emu days lol
warped spear
back in the day it was how everyone made their first mc server
no go look up old mc tutorialss
heady spear
use \ u dork
warped spear
everyone used hamachi
limber knotBOT
but zerotier is pretty cool seeing as it's an open source peer-to-peer VPN solution
heady spear
that's the bloody operator u potato
warped spear
anyone know of an openjdk version for ubuntu that supports shenandoah
post 1.14 gets a lot smoother with it
void void
.g openjdk version for ubuntu that supports shenandoah
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/shenandoah/Main -- Main - Shenandoah - OpenJDK Wiki: "Jan 21, 2020 ... Supported, Shenandoah, Comment. 1.x, 2.x. JDK 8. (plus). 8+, 8u242+. Available as ... Linux nightly builds are available at..."
heady spear
man that google stuff really is neat
void void
wow ikr
heady spear
it'll probably become a huge company one day
warped spear
i checked that page it links the fedora version which refuses to install
void void
well, you're doing something wrong big boy
warped spear
that is entirely possible
void void
not our fault, dont ask the question again because it didnt work for you
the info is there
warped spear
well ill give it another crack later today then
heady spear
Give me some crack
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crack_cocaine -- Crack cocaine - Wikipedia: "Crack cocaine, also known simply as crack or rock, is a free base form of cocaine that can be smoked. Crack offers a short, intense high to smokers...."
warped spear
I was probably being stupid cause I was doing this at like 11:30 after a day of traveling
why I have no idea but decided fuck it why not
topaz mortar
š
heady spear
šļø š š ā¤ļø ā¶ļø š®
limber knotBOT
just close them
warped spear
side not anyone got a good remote desktop suggestion for linux
limber knotBOT
and add a tag "outdated java version"
warped spear
does mc run with java 12 or whatever we are at rn
limber knotBOT
what's wrong with VNC?
golden gust
VNC if you wanna be oldsk00l
I was using nomachine for a while, tbqh; was pretty nice
warped spear
its been like 5 year since I last did any sorta of remote desktop and never did it on linux
golden gust
better than TeamViewer
warped spear
so i have no idea whats current lol
limber knotBOT
or if you want something really cool: https://github.com/kbumsik/VirtScreen
topaz mortar
remote Desktop Linux? Why even use a desktop just use the terminal. ssh FTW.
warped spear
its more I just want to be able to remote into my server pc and all that
remote into my ubuntu server from my windows laptop
limber knotBOT
just use ssh
topaz mortar
Linux + servers pc => SSH => no GUI
limber knotBOT
but x server forwarding is a thing too
heady spear
Why. are. u. not. using. a. headless. server. environment?
golden gust
x forwarding is cancer
especially if you have any form of latency
x2go is ā¤ļø though for that
abuses vnc, lol
warped spear
@heady spear I wanted an easy set up when I was configging things
topaz mortar
ssh and scp are my two tools when interacting with Linux.
limber knotBOT
not using rsync
warped spear
I intend to remove the desktop enviroment when its all fine tuned for good
and basically everything
sand vale
But then you're changing the environment...
warped spear
I mean i don't think its that much of an issue tbh
even if I leave it
with like 12 people on the server was at 20% cpu usagge
peak
topaz mortar
Phantom just activate ssh-server, deactivate pw login and use ssh-key for login.
void void
sometimes when i need to be cheered up i watch blizzard's reveal of Diablo Immortal again
it always becomes joy to my soul
topaz mortar
Viper you mean Markdown hard in LaTeX? Never heard that it can be used the other way around easily.
warped spear
@void void are you a masochist or watching the audience
void void
the audience of course
warped spear
ok good
void void
also i love watching the presenters die inside
warped spear
cause the actual reveal was depressing but the audience was funny as shit
@void void have you seen the outer worlds dev react to a guy speed running the game in 12 minutes
void void
i think so
warped spear
its great you hear the defeat in their voice
supple fox
warped spear
zerotier should integrate wireguard
clear iris
obtuse tangle
void void
.g zerotier
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.zerotier.com/ -- ZeroTier ā Global Area Networking: "ZeroTier virtual networks are like chat rooms for machines. Just create virtual networks, join them from your devices and systems, approve..."
worn ember
How does that even work
limber knotBOT
p2p magix
eww, they relicensed from GPL3 to some own commercial license
at least it expires after 3 years to Apache 2.0
gpl is cancer
runs
limber knotBOT
it spreads like cancer tho
topaz mortar
dumb players are cancer....
runs
pulsar wigeon
that's...not how that works mini
void void
one thing i never thought i heard a couple that sails full time around the world in their yacht is "we havent been to the beach in a long time, i miss the waves, we're going to the beachj"
but
i just heard it
also mini what are you talking about spreads like cancer lmao
void void
cancer isn't contagious
golden gust
But, that's typical mini
limber knotBOT
if you build your lib ontop of a gpl lib
pulsar wigeon
yea he's obviously not taken any life sciences since primary school
pulsar wigeon
that's not how cancer works tho mini
pulsar wigeon
that's why i likened it more to a virus
void void
my boy.
limber knotBOT
MiniDigger: good
dapper nacelle
73.451 confirmed with Corona
void void
you know what ill give him the benefit of the doubt, it's cancer that also includes a virus free of charge
limber knotBOT
the only issue is that it's GPL and not AGPL
pulsar wigeon
and yes, as i said that's part of the design of gpl
limber knotBOT
runs
u some kind of doctor or y u trying to tell me how cancer works?!
if u know how cancer works, why dont you heal it?!
void void
it's common sense
limber knotBOT
š
void void
bro WHAT
void void
i was ashamed of my gif so i deleted it
left swift
be bold simple
heady spear
them: Learn Cramer's Rule
also them: Cramer's rule is horrible. Never use it.
woven otter
left swift
gotta learn why it is horrible and to never use it
woven otter
learn but don't use
olive garden
GPL is a way to make sure that your stuff or other stuff built on top of yours never gets distributed without source code. It doesn't make much sense to me since it's not AGPL, so it doesn't restrict online services, but it makes perfect sense on exclusively client-side stuff I guess, it effectively locks the source code to be open.
I don't really get it why you hate it so much. If the developer wants to make sure that his work never becomes some paid software, it's pretty effective. If you don't like the idea of that, just don't use GPL stuff. The developer whose work you want to use doesn't want you to use his work if you want to make private stuff, it's his decision, if you want to use the dev's stuff, respect this decision of his.
I personally tend to use MIT for library stuff and GPL for complete products and I'm kind of tempted to switch to AGPL, because I liked the idea of locking the source code into this open (but not restrictionless) state.
left swift
wow
heady spear
you can still sell the product under GPL, you just need to provide the source
void void
limber knotBOT
which is the goal
olive garden
Right, and just because your have the source, you can't just resell.
limber knotBOT
actually with the GPL you can xD
olive garden
In that case I was right the first time I guess
heady spear
It doesn't prevent anyone from selling the software
as long as they provide the source
state their changes, keep copyright abnd license notices and distribute it under the same license
limber knotBOT
(or a compatibleone)
velvet leaf
olive garden
So it does kinda make selling a bit pointless, like anyone can just buy it once and undercut your prices with little effort.
heady spear
Well, it's more that people can fork the project, make improvements and then sell their version
limber knotBOT
tbh if someone would want to destroy the GPL they could just buy the FSF and release a GPLv4 which allows relicensing under the license of their choice xD
olive garden
free software foundation
limber knotBOT
the publishers of the GPL
fallen oracle
Did you guys switch to premium support yet?
You should sell a premium Snapchat that just has videos of you working on updates.
limber knotBOT
v3 contains the clause that you can relicense under any later version of the gpl (same as v2 contained it)
heady spear
I wanna finish updating the plugin lol
limber knotBOT
and most people keep that clause
(besides Linus Torvalds for the LInux Kernel which is stuck on GPLv2)
heady spear
We're not gonna sell an existing version, that'd be weird. We're selling v5 (future version) and discontinuing all other versions + dropping support entirely
Then making the support channel for v5 locked :]
fallen oracle
I'm down with that.
upper flicker
I mean, I dont really support them adding that clause
"yeah just trust us the next version will still be great"
lolno
I dont blame linus for keeping his old version whatsoever
fallen oracle
So when's v5 dropping?
heady spear
The adjugate of a square matrix is the transpose of the matrix of cofactors. How wonderful
limber knotBOT
yeah, if I ever public anything important under (A)GPL then I'll probably remove that one too, lol
upper flicker
one of the worst parts of that clause is that it doesnt work in reverse
heady spear
Well, we're almost done with the flag stuff. Then I'm gonna go through the API to polish it, then we're actually going to test stuff this time around
and add some more end user docs. But like, it could be done in a week
limber knotBOT
the worst part is that it doesn't specify what qualifies as a GPLv4
upper flicker
so if you released your stuff under GPLv3, and someone forks it and keeps going under GPLv4, but you dont want to use GPLv4 in your original project, you cannot use that forks code
so they've managed to lock you out of a large amount of ongoing work and changes
it seems completely opposite to their stated goal
fallen oracle
So you're saying v5 could be ready in a week?
upper flicker
but I guess thats just how they want to force you to upgrade?
cobalt light
limber knotBOT
probably one idea behind it, yeah
fallow peak
Glare
fallen oracle
If you're planning on v5 being on a premium plugin page you better apply now. It usually takes like 2 or 3 weeks.
limber knotBOT
dat slander
fallow peak
do you intend to add support for bungeecord in the guilds plugin?
fallen oracle
Wouldn't know. Doesn't boot.
fallow peak
Ok, it's a great plugin
fallen oracle
Rock, it's mainly cause I don't know how to efficiently do it and I don't have any time right now to figure that out.
void void
fallen oracle
From what I've been told it's not easy what-so-ever to support bungee with a plugin of this size.
fallen oracle
Yes the majaro entry exists and it's above Windows
Nah simple I have other stuff for you to work on but I've been doing a lot of stuff lately
I have a major PR in the works
fallen oracle
You're busy so I respect your time
But yeah I've been told handling the communication across servers with bungee is a bitch especially with all the data that constantly changes.
wide chasm
Even if you do relatively little it's still a bitch, trust me.
I think I've rewritten my current system three times already and it's still meh at best.
fallen oracle
I'd have to disable homes, vaults, and probabaly more.
I'm not dealing with real-time inventories across multiple servers
No way no how suck my toes
void void
can i suck your dick instead
fallen oracle
If you add Bungee support, sure.
worn ember
What's with all the dick sucking today
twin lagoon
o
fallen oracle
The thing is...
They don't realize how locked down the plugin will be if they want it to work across bungee
upper flicker
pfft this is what you get when you want 
for free and go manjaro
worn ember
No homos
void void
meh
fallow peak
in my case I don't need to use it on multiple servers
fallen oracle
I have like 30 open issues. If you want to dig through them, most of them are probabaly stupid things.
fallow peak
Just one
wide chasm
In my plugin I keep everything locked to the "main" server and only allow a few things to be done across multiple servers. So, you still have everything if you use bungeecord, it's just that the other servers can't do very much.
fallen oracle
Well the plugin supports 1 server just fine
worn ember
Wow. That's a big achievement
fallen oracle
Exactly Stef .. I don't see much point in doing it
worn ember
Most people can't even manage that
fallow peak
the last time i tried to use it on just one server, commands kicked out players
fallen oracle
I already have a hard enough time making it run fine on 1 server since the code I wrote 2 or 3 years ago is doodoo
Idk why commands would kick people from a server
worn ember
Cuz yes
void void
it's better now that the data operations aren't complete diarrhea
how do i make my minecraft bright even in complete darkness? speedrunners do it somehow... but not fullbright its like 50% fullbright
wide chasm
For my plugin I understand why some people would want to join a game on a different server from like a main hub server. But, the code required to make that work, it's just, ugh.
fallen oracle
I also made the mistake of trying to implement every single little suggestion on the first year or 2 so I implemented a bunch of shitty logic.
void void
uh, so it is fullbright bloodmasked. lmfao
you just lower the fullbright intensity...
its like fullbright but not completely bright
fallen oracle
If I could disregard all data currently in the plug-in and redo it from scratch, I would in a heartbeat.
limber knotBOT
there are mods that do that
limber knotBOT
but that said, ^ this isnt the place for it
fallow peak
Stefvanschi
wide chasm
Oh Glare, you haven't seen my plugin then. I've added pretty much everything. Conditionals in text files to determine if the message should or should not be send? Sure, supported.
wide chasm
Because someone wanted to show on his scoreboard "Arena Full" when the arena was full, but "x/x players" when it wasn't full. Hence, this.
fallow peak
What is your plugin? interested
fallen oracle
I've got a big PR open right now where I've converted from maven to Gradle and started doing Kotlin stuff.
warped spear
any chance paper will add gpu acceleration
fallow peak
Thanks
warped spear
i mean it would be nice for lighting
fallen oracle
I also had like 1 class handling way too much so I'm working on splitting up stuff into different handlers
Will have them all implement a central interface of some sort.
golden gust
- Most servers do not have GPUs suitable for that type of stuff
- Stuffing the data back and forth is expensive
warped spear
they would if there was a reason too
golden gust
- Lighting is already async
warped spear
well guess I will continue my largely futile attempt to do gpu accelerated chunk rendering via opencl
wide chasm
Now make the plugin in such a way that it can suppport multiple platforms, Glare š
fallen oracle
Also need to do work on MCBanners but I've been slammed lately and so has simple.
golden gust
There are very few layers of chunk-gen where GPU accel would be worth it
fallen oracle
I could make it support multiple platforms right now if I scratched everything and rewrote it but I can't since I'd lose data for all currently
golden gust
And, tbh, the engineering required for it, probaly ain't worth it
warped spear
I know thats why Im tryna do it
void void
Hello, how to get all keys il a yml with bungeecord/waterfall likes getKeys(false) in bukkit ?
wide chasm
Don't worry, multi-platform is a pain to do, especially afterwards
warped spear
I have run into a few road blocks for it
void void
It don't work
first running a server over vpn, second adding gpu acceleration to chunk rendering
limber knotBOT
@3ā60āmaāttā getKeys in bungee should have the same behaviour like getKeys(false) on bukkit
void void
fallen oracle
I mean I have a framework that could easily do it, it's what we're using in PAPI v3
warped spear
minecrafts opengl is too old so I either have to update the opengl to 4.0 (needs compute shaders) or try and get opencl rendering working
I am a computer science major with far to much time
wide chasm
A framework? But that's cheating! /s
fallen oracle
It's just I lose motivation looking at the code. I did convert like 30 classes yesterday tho
warped spear
I have some idea of how I could get it to work but the issue is the amount of shit I need to fix
fallen oracle
There's no way I would do it without a framework lol
I'm one of those people who won't reinvent the wheel
Which is why I use things like IF.
wide chasm
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fallen oracle
I just need to rewrite all of the GUis again because some things keep turning out null on stirng replacements. That or add some system that adds a default value when a value is null.
That's like the biggest complaint right now.
void void
I have for example:
test:
truc:
en: "beautiful msg in english"
but with getKeys() of bungeecord api, it's return just:
test and not the totality of yaml š¢
warped spear
the main issue is fixing the schedular so I could actually dispatch work to the shader
computer shaders are amazing but you have to be able to actually give them shit too do
scenic bane
warped spear
and that ontop of java editions ancient graphics api mean I either try and update the opengl renderer or I create a binding to opencl and then do it
void void
man maybe you should go work at mojang if you're so big brain and can fix the entire game like that
warped spear
I have an idea of how this could work but I doubt I could do it alone or in a time when java mc manages to stay relavent
topaz mortar
Vulkan please.
fallen oracle
@void void I'm talking about the two major frameworks that Guilds uses
worn ember
Good
void void
and moltenvk has horrible performance
fallen oracle
ACF and IF
void void
oh
topaz mortar
oh, mikroskeem improving moltenvk would be a good first step for Phantom.
formal echo
fallen oracle
In other news I started moving away from runtime stuff. I still have a few but I took out most of them.
@void void How's ur startup? Did you finish the deadline?
void void
still wip
warped spear
@void void this would be a server plugin for chunk loading via chunk loading gpu so probably linux or windows only
does anyone host mc servers off macs?
fallen oracle
I need to do some work in mcbanenrs soon ughhhhhh I wish there were more hours in a day
I get home from classes and I'm just dead inside
void void
lmfaoooooooooooooo
pulsar wigeon
are you not just always dead inside?
warped spear
@fallen oracle I feel that
warped spear
thats my end goal
warped spear
and by plugin I mean easy to install drag and drop with spigot or paper
so if you have a gpu in your server you can use it
void void
ok
warped spear
not actually a "plugin"
void void
ok
fallen oracle
Someone suggested trying coke. Not sure how I feel about that.
void void
no, dont do coke
warped spear
meth is much more effective
void void
it feels good for like 15 minutes, then you want to fucking die
warped spear
^
fallen oracle
Have been since I was like 4
warped spear
am potato without it with it I can do big brain shit
limber knotBOT
imagine being addicted to drugs
warped spear
eh its ok calculus is over rated
pulsar wigeon
imagine not just getting high on life
limber knotBOT
speaking of which, how's your streak going, simple
pulsar wigeon
runs
warped spear
mine is oo
too
ADD/ADHD = broken dopamine system in your brain so they shock it with amphetamines to reset it
basically like clearing the cmos on your motherboard
resets everything and things work like they should for a few hours
down side is you crash later and go double potato
fallen oracle
Unless you're my motherboard
Yeah that's true
But it's also dangerous cause you can go a day or so without being tired if you abuse it
warped spear
whats the most ghetto pc you guys have ever made
fallen oracle
Ofc I don't abuse it
warped spear
me neither its a tool to fix a problem not create a new one
fallen oracle
Idk I have some Dell premade that I hate and the bios is bricked, I'm just waiting for the day to die.
warped spear
I built a pc in a cardboard box with ali express psu
void void
of what KennyTV
warped spear
the compute shader for chunk loading project is a long term thing so don't ask me about it any time soon lol
fallen oracle
My schedule is setup that I have 1 or 2 exams every week almost so I basically have no time to work on things without cutting into my sleep / study time.
fallen oracle
I got a shit done with simple over my winter break but when I got back it was right back to the study grind
fallen oracle
We made a whole damn startup project in like 2 weeks putting in a solid 7 hours of work a day
I have HDDs ziptied to my case!
limber knotBOT
of being clean :D @simple
fallen oracle
Oh shit really?
void void
it was rough
limber knotBOT
noice
fallen oracle
That's honestly probably the healthier way to go
limber knotBOT
or quit both
void void
i get high on sugar
or carbs
to each their own phantom.
you have literally no clue anything about my relationship with drugs, so please dont tell me that one is better than the other
thanks buddy
wide chasm
If you don't start drinking, you won't miss it either. (What I do š )
limber knotBOT
I do drink sometimes, but never've been proper drunk
void void
i dont drink to get drunk anymore, it's just like i wanna have a spiked lemonade here and there
and so i do
fallen oracle
Oop
limber knotBOT
I mean most alcoholic drinks (besides wine) taste freaking amazing, no idea why anyone would want to miss these
void void
i eat diabetis food but im not fat
limber knotBOT
imagine liking the taste of beer
golden gust
imagine liking the taste of beer
void void
a good beer can be quite delectable
golden gust
You're dumb
wide chasm
Well, you don't miss what you don't know, so...
golden gust
That just means you've not drank enough
limber knotBOT
imagine NOT linking the taste of beer
void void
a good nice wheat malty beer is very good
limber knotBOT
I am, and we drank like 15 different beers at christmas
and beer literally tastes like shit š
olive garden
there's good wine and there's bad wine
I have to say, most wine isn't great in my price category, so I don't blame those who don't like it
void void
last time i went to a beerhouse i ordered a flight of their specialty beers
had like
chocolate beer, and some other random stuff
really good. wouldn't drink bottles of the stuff, but for a flight?
limber knotBOT
the good thing about beer is that even the cheapest one still tastes somewhat good
void void
yeah very good
(and by flight im not talking about airplane, im talking about a flight of beers, like 6 smaller drinks, slightly bigger than a shot each)
each a different flavor
worn ember
so i had class at 11am today, my friend came to where we were waiting for the class just completely wasted, dude drank an entire bottle of RosƩ as breakfast 
was fun tho
void void
your friend is a wine-o?
worn ember
beer is like drinking piss lmao
olive garden
but... but.. Corona corn beer, HofbrƤu wheat beer?
worn ember
limber knotBOT
why do you know how piss tastes like?
olive garden
the difference between the two you Dark is that he can make an RTP plugin and you can't
limber knotBOT
at least dark hasn't lost his taste
worn ember
Omer is good, but its about the only beer i'd drink more than one of
worn ember
heady spear
yay the new flag system workssss
void void
I like Red Horse.
I can only find it in the philippines though.
So, waiting for June
(makes sense, it's a filipino beer, but still i want it here in the US)
worn ember
just milk a red horse
olive garden
you are so good at life hacks
worn ember
been a hacker my entire life
limber knotBOT
@CāĆÆtāĆæwāĆ©Ć©ābsātrāĆ©tā What new flag system?
Your name is cancer to type
upper dune
limber knotBOT
you donāt type it out on discord tho
upper dune
hello
ember crag
Everyone knows you have to hunt for real beer in the US
upper dune
why do u appear as a bot @atomic marten ?
void void
he is on IRC.
olive garden
oh, no, it's a robot uprising!
limber knotBOT
Beep boop beep
ember crag
So...the real question. mIRC or other?
fallen oracle
Dopee just got prelab done.
pulsar wigeon
mirc 
limber knotBOT
I'm on Quassel rn
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limber knotBOT
Iām using the lounge atm, normally Iām using Circe
worn ember
mass suicide
limber knotBOT
thelounge is sexy
upper flicker
rip squidwards
limber knotBOT
Itās functional
worn ember
F
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upper flicker
nothing like a chat client you can't change the font in w/out css
then again I suppose everyone using irc in 2020 can use css
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no
limber knotBOT
nah
worn ember
golden gust
#WebkitMasterrace
upper flicker
I mean even discord lets you change the font size
limber knotBOT
webkit
upper flicker
even discord
upper flicker
even discord
limber knotBOT
right, cuz that's what css is
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can it change the font
upper flicker
it sure would be hard for any normal people
but again, IRC, 2020
no normies left
limber knotBOT
You can change the css for discord
Introducing, BetterDisb&
not true lol
hey, electroniccat is a normie
!kick KennyTV and kennytv ain't here
quasi valley
wow upsidedownist
upper flicker
then they arent going to be changing their font size in thelounge
limber knotBOT
Ye, wel, maybe if u didn't keep hittin ur head on the table as u walk around
you're dumb enough
upper flicker
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
limber knotBOT
Here, lemmie help you get a table
.table
(āÆĀ°ā”Ā°ļ¼āÆ ļøµ ā»āā»
Der, rite way up 4 u
Tfw the table has a higher iq
worn ember
put that back ā¬āā¬ ć( ć-ćć)
limber knotBOT
(āÆĀ°ā”Ā°ļ¼āÆ ļøµ ā»āā»
worn ember
woven otter
(āÆĀ°ā”Ā°ļ¼āÆļøµ ā»āā»
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"ugh guys are we arguing about 1.8"
limber knotBOT
they deserve some respect
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this table shit
limber knotBOT
HEY
worn ember
drop the table!
limber knotBOT
I'll drop u
u fuq
like you've been at birth?
just, gimmie some time, need a few gym sessions
worn ember
jokes on you, i'm already immune to dropping
woven otter
woven otter
latent valve
limber knotBOT
let me tell you a story of a sad austrian man: he installed a program... with the directory being the desktop
then he uninstalled said program
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sounds like you
limber knotBOT
and it deleted the whole desktop
and cleared his desktop, and now the directory doesnt even update new files anymore in the file browser
lmao
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