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vestal jasper
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yeah trying to add maven support caused it to freeze as well

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@ byteflux

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fuck

cobalt surge
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@static badge you are a Gradle issue....

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runs

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are you saying ur wider than byteflux

golden gust
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ur an issue

vestal jasper
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yes

golden gust
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uve gon from habin em to bein em

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@cobalt surge ur an issue

cobalt surge
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Nah I'm not..

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nobody knows they're an issue until they accept it

cobalt surge
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If only I could kick you leaf.. I would totally do it.. 😆

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u can't even do that kekw

vestal jasper
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let's try CE 2020.1

cobalt surge
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One day I will..

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sure kappa

cobalt surge
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Don't make me ping z or wiz over here

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KEKWHYPER do it no balls

cobalt surge
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Hell I got cat here.. hell kick you

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you'll see who gets kicked kekw

brittle dust
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Does that /setspawn command force everyone in the default group to spawn in the same location even if they get ported in at first on a different server...cause I'm running bungee...so idk if that will mess with the spawns at all

cobalt surge
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@golden gust just kick this lame leaf please.. 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

left swift
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U want them to spawn there everytime they log in?

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mfw begging cat

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but not billy

vestal jasper
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mfw pinging cat

cobalt surge
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He's busy leaf

golden gust
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Billy; if you tell your wife she's a problem, I'll move one of your PRs up the queue

cobalt surge
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Cat on the other hand is not

golden gust
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Heck, maybe i'll even let you pick

pulsar wigeon
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imagine pinging cat

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to try and get him to kick someone else

cobalt surge
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Wiz you'll def kick me not leaf

pulsar wigeon
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challenge accepted

golden gust
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Heck

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He'd probs give you a 2:1 package

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@pulsar wigeon kekw doubt

vestal jasper
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well 2020.1 looks promising

pulsar wigeon
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double whammy

brittle dust
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Just for the first time they login

golden gust
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2020.1 looked nice, but, I did have some issues with it

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vestal jasper
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wowie I can type in files and not have it instantly freeze

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that was real fast wiz

vestal jasper
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mfw no roles

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someone give this man some roles

cobalt surge
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kappa gimme roles

vestal jasper
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namely taco hater and no reacts

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:^)

golden gust
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I'll put it on my todo list

cobalt surge
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You don't deserve roles

vestal jasper
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no he does

cobalt surge
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Nah

vestal jasper
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LITERALLY

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fight for me my fanboys

vestal jasper
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TACO HATER AND NO REACTS

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wtf vic

vestal jasper
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chrysti pls read

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you're forgetting the most important role

left swift
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No react is best role

vestal jasper
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the fire role?

left swift
vestal jasper
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idr what it does

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probably some dumb meme

pulsar wigeon
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only role leaf deserves is no reactions and dumb taco hater

vestal jasper
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aWEQS

pulsar wigeon
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like, contributor, really? he can't even get the tickrate up to 100000000

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If I could remove worldedit I could

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fucking slow ass plugin

pulsar wigeon
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if coreedit was open source you'd PR it into paper

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:^)

brittle dust
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to bad FAWE doesn't work at all

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I don't have coreedit src peepoJuice

rare herald
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😢

left swift
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Run

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is coreedit gonna be opensource Pog

brittle dust
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Fucking retarded.....fucking look at my server bitch.

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brittle dust
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jk all love XDDD

left swift
brittle dust
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I've jerked off to many times officer I need help

pulsar wigeon
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what the fuck

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you have wiz in your sights

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jfc that gif kekw

pulsar wigeon
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we need a channel for retarded gifs

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oh wait

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yo dawg where my ranks @

pulsar wigeon
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not my problem ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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fakebull, really tho this isn't the place to spam retarded gifs

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if you didn't get the hint

brittle dust
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omg you deleted them XDDD

golden gust
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wiz

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do you even know the rules

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it doesn't matter unless we're talking about other things

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were we in that scenario

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no

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bad mod slavewhip

golden gust
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You tryna play lottery on if limbo will be alive when you rejoin? thonk

left swift
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Dam🅱️

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limbo is dead as shit

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well

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it wouldn't matter actually

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you always lose the lottery

golden gust
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exactli

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pulsar wigeon
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kashike keeps saying "this weekend"

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for like...2 months now or so

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kashike hasn't said he'll get it up ever

golden gust
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It's kashike time

left swift
pulsar wigeon
golden gust
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in his defence

pulsar wigeon
golden gust
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We did have a back for a day or so

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wiz you know how dev stuff goes around here kappa

pulsar wigeon
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yea ik

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i'm just disproving your "kashike hasn't said he'll get it up ever"

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"I'll review your pr later billy"

pulsar wigeon
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unless that was a sexual innuendo

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1 year later

pulsar wigeon
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and not referring to limbo

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how could it be sexual

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if it was I would've brought out kappapride

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kappapride if you catch my meaning

left swift
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No wdym

cosmic raft
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hey @static badge

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why are you mean

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this is bait

cosmic raft
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no idea what you mean

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I knew you'd do it

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you tried to kick me while I was typing a message

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but I read u

cosmic raft
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take that

golden gust
cosmic raft
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2020-02-13 04:13:12.741  INFO 23333 --- [  ReadingThread] n.k.l.d.f.role.auto.AutoRoleFeature      : Adding "Streamfrost#0001" (273258543132442624) to role "no-reactions" (497836299097473039)
2020-02-13 04:13:12.747  INFO 23333 --- [  ReadingThread] n.k.l.d.f.role.auto.AutoRoleFeature      : Adding "Streamfrost#0001" (273258543132442624) to role "🔥" (505873650067570688)
2020-02-13 04:13:12.750  INFO 23333 --- [  ReadingThread] n.k.l.d.f.role.auto.AutoRoleFeature      : Adding "Streamfrost#0001" (273258543132442624) to role "dumb-taco-hater" (523797688337039380)
2020-02-13 04:13:12.752  INFO 23333 --- [  ReadingThread] n.k.l.d.f.role.auto.AutoRoleFeature      : Adding "Streamfrost#0001" (273258543132442624) to role "Contributor" (555848242886082571)
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^^

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hm

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it was slow

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also is that obfuscation

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n.k.l.d.f.role

pulsar wigeon
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no

golden gust
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no

upper flicker
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no

pulsar wigeon
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pretty standard to shorten packages to single letters in logs

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alright stop saying no

golden gust
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no

cosmic raft
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what wiz said

upper flicker
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no

pulsar wigeon
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net.kyorisomething.limbo.discord.fuckwhatever.role.auto

cosmic raft
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net.kyori.limbo.discord.feature.role.auto.AutoRoleFeature

pulsar wigeon
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yea like i said

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fuckwhatever

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dumb in my opinion

pulsar wigeon
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ur opinion is dumb

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ur dumb

cosmic raft
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you'll love it. it uses streams

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ofc it does

cosmic raft
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and optionals

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  @Subscribe
  public void add(final GuildMemberAddEvent event) {
    final Guild guild = event.guild();
    final Member member = event.member();

    this.configuration.search(new MemberQuery() {
      @Override
      public @NonNull Guild guild() {
        return guild;
      }

      @Override
      public @NonNull Member member() {
        return member;
      }
    }).ifPresent(roles -> {
      final User user = member.user();
      LongStream.of(roles.toLongArray())
        .mapToObj(guild::role)
        .filter(Optional::isPresent)
        .map(Optional::get)
        .forEach(role -> {
          LOGGER.info("Adding \"{}\" ({}) to role \"{}\" ({})", FunkyTown.globalName(user), user.id(), role.name(), role.id());
          member.roles().add(role);
        });
    });
  }
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yeah no that's retarded

golden gust
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Won't you take me to...

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Lipps Inc. - Funky Town [HD] 1979 - length 3m 5s - 25,062 likes, 621 dislikes (97.6%) - 2,003,981 views - Classic Music of Yesteryear on 2017.01.24

upper flicker
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🎵 🎵 🎵

void void
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lowkey song's a bop tho

cosmic raft
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nono

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this is a bop

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Enigma - Sadeness (Full Version) - length 7m 34s - 190,248 likes, 7,963 dislikes (96.0%) - 25,611,782 views - northborneo27 on 2014.10.06

golden gust
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That just reminds me of the windows XP oobe song

mental oriole
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🧻

cosmic raft
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yeah

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Windows XP Installation Music - length 5m 25s - 20,665 likes, 317 dislikes (98.5%) - 1,447,433 views - MilesPrower88 on 2007.09.16

cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Hi Im Cortana - length 51s - 14,100 likes, 217 dislikes (98.5%) - 596,261 views - gamerqq on 2017.12.06

golden gust
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lol

void void
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perfect

pulsar wigeon
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you really like that picture don't you

void void
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wtf

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there are people in oregon who dont know how to pump their own gas, and the new law allows self service, and they're all flipping the fuck out about it

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these people are fucking braindead

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ok i shouldn't say that because you can't pump your own in the philippines, but still

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I’ve lived in this state all my life and I REFUSE to pump my own gas … This a service only qualified people should perform. I will literally park at the pump and wait until someone pumps my gas.

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WTF?

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it's me reading your dumb ass code wiz

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especially that synchronized one

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This a service only qualified people should perform.

golden gust
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ngl, it's just kinda weird

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I've not seen anywhere in the UK that's not self service :L

void void
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cat are you telling me you cant pump your own gas.

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oh ok good

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you're sane

golden gust
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I don't own a car, nor know how to drive

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But, I can fill a tank, lol

void void
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good boy

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in the philippines they're all full service, you pull up, tell them how much gas you want, they fill you up and you go

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havent seen a single self service

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but here in the US, as far as I knew until now, it was all self service

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except apparently fucking oregon and new jersey

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fucking quacks

golden gust
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Yea, you guys have some places that don't permit it

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Which is just. wut...

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You take off the cap, put the thing in the thing and squeeze the thing

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It's like...

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wut

void void
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should be one way or the other, all self service or all full service. none of this half and half shit

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i totally would've driven to one of those states and gotten out and started pumping

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then have police chasing me

golden gust
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lol

pulsar wigeon
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leaf that synchronized one is logically sound ok

golden gust
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Like

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Is there actually any qualification that you can get for filling a tank? :L

void void
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no

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at least

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i hope fucking not

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.g gas tank filling certification

limber knotBOT
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it's not

vestal jasper
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Ok so I have to be a fuel station attendant sometimes

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I retested it awhile ago

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turns out my initial test was wrong

vestal jasper
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You'd be surprised how retarded people can be

golden gust
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idk vic

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it did not gc

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err

golden gust
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Like, are you sure that you're qualified?

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yeah

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the only time it did was if there was no lvar

void void
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my dad is 'allowed' to sound his horn on the truck for full service gas filling here in Cali, because he has no legs (he has proesthetics, so he can get out and do it himself but he has that option)

vestal jasper
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I had a person overfill their tank and continue pumping

void void
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he always self services it

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wtf vic

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the lvar was enough to keep it Pog

vestal jasper
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They came up like "I spilled some fuel think the pump is broken"

pulsar wigeon
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leaf

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you're retarded

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u probably read ur code wrong peepoJuice

pulsar wigeon
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i literally have the error that shows it got gc'd

void void
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does your pump not have the auto stop that clicks as soon as there is fuel touching the nozzle...

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it gets gc'd if it was only in the weakref

vestal jasper
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It does

void void
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wtf

vestal jasper
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They literally managed to bypass it

pulsar wigeon
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it was only in weakref

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holy fuk leaf

pulsar wigeon
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lvar is not enough

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lvar is enough

pulsar wigeon
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wait no

vestal jasper
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No u var

pulsar wigeon
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yea the lvar doesn't matter

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compiler just removes it

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cuz it's never used

golden gust
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Wasn't the issue that your lvar didn't exist ?

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ye

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javac doesn't do that shit

pulsar wigeon
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jit does

void void
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.g ivar

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pulsar wigeon
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gc doesn't care what javac does

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ok, someone explain

golden gust
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local var

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ok am retest after jit warmup

pulsar wigeon
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lvar = local var

golden gust
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u dumfuq

void void
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oh

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it's an L

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ok

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ur going down wiz

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and if it's a jit thing kekw I'll file a bug report fuck em

pulsar wigeon
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public class Holder {
    public Holder(Referent x) { this.ref = new WeakRef(x); }
    public Referent get() { return ref.get(); }
    private WeakRef<Referent> ref;
}
// ... elsewhere
{
    Referent lvar = new Referent();
    Holder holder = new Holder(lvar);
    // wait for gc
    holder.get(); // = null
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easy repro

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ret non-null for me

pulsar wigeon
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gotta wait for gc to claim it

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it's sporadic

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well it didn't ret

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I forced it to do two things

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gc it or oom

pulsar wigeon
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do what?

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with the lvar it oom'd

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without

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it didn't

pulsar wigeon
merry talon
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couldn't you just take the nozzle out and keep pumping

void void
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sure

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you're just charging yourself money

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and it's more than likely illegal

merry talon
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not if you just drive away

void void
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there are cameras on each pump sir

merry talon
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cover your plate and wear a disguise

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ez

void void
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all so you can go out and have a splash down in some gasoline?

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very thinksmart

merry talon
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how else are you supposed to suicide by fire when you get home

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hm

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the JIT DID cause it

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kappa it's time

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without a warmup it ooms

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with one it doesn't thonk maybe it's not allocating though

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gg it is allocating

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PES_InterestedPoggers new leaf avatar

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ikr Pog

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I'll accept defeat on this one wiz gg well played

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can't believe the jit would do something like that

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that's fucking counter-intuitive

void void
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LMFAO

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i fucking put my first and last name in google domains

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and it provides all these suggestions

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im done, thx google

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time to file a bug report

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I'm taking a bet here and them going 'lol it's undefined get fucked retard'

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ugh but there are potential cases where that behaviour is useful

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fuck it they can figure that out\

pulsar wigeon
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link

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I will at you when I do

pulsar wigeon
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also btw i don't know it's the jit

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just assumed that bit

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I'll want to do some further confirmation confirming that it's still attempting the allocation

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aka gc logs

pulsar wigeon
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but somewhere between the compiler/jit/gc it decides the lvar is redundant

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yea k gl

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i'll just keep my synchronized block

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idc ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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you'll have to even if they fix it kekw

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people updating KEKWHYPER

pulsar wigeon
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tru

merry talon
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trying to get netflix to play in HD

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and I realized

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just watch the pornhub adaptation sweepy

merry talon
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I can just download an HD rip in like 30 seconds

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why do I even bother

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you know what there is probably some good blade runner shit on pornhub

void void
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LP discord is ded.

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How the fuck do you set a perm with the new API

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Docs have a TODO and I've been ignored for 3 days

pulsar wigeon
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oh that's you

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totally forgot your name was just simple

void void
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breh

merry talon
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do you have the get api

void void
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the what

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the get api

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it's likely in the same place as the get api

void void
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we're talking about luckperms, yes?

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sure

void void
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are there two artifacts?

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idk

void void
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then wtf are you talking about

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I'm telling you how to find shit

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get and set are usually paired

void void
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yes

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like i said

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do you know where to get perms from luckperms

hard kernel
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hi

void void
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its there

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it has a TODO

hard kernel
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i am here

void void
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hi

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DO YOU KNOW WHERE TO GET THE PERMS FROM THE USER IN LUCKPERMS

hard kernel
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dont yell at simple

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YELL AT YOU TOO

void void
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bro

hard kernel
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wow

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so rude

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i am sensitive

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and dum

hard kernel
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uneducated*

void void
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wait a minute wtf

limber knotBOT
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Dude don't you know he's an evil Cardassian assassin/spy? Don't piss him off

void void
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these 2 sentences are the set perm documentation i think

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smh

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ok

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scrolled right past that shit

limber knotBOT
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So you get a whole map instead of a specific permission then you can just modify the map and it'll change things?

void void
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yea then you have to save the data as well after you do that

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previously, i just called setPermission on User

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it's whatever.

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complexity for complexity's sake i guess

merry talon
void void
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misterfix did it for me

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yes

merry talon
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wait why did he have to do it for you lol

void void
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because for mac there is no proper sharex; however, there is a thing called magiccap and its sftp doesn't work properly but it supports sxcu; he had to add my domain to support sxcu in his thing, and i just added an A record

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downside is the domain shows sxcu

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but it doesnt really bother me

merry talon
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oh idc about the client setup

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i see

void void
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oh in terms of dns yea i just set an A record

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idk what all he did

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but afaik anyone can use my domain with sxcu if they want

merry talon
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i don't see it in the list

void void
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its not public

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he did it for me as a favor

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but you can just set it up in your sxcu file

merry talon
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o

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ur domain sux anyway

void void
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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im prob gonna let it expire

merry talon
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same with mine

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I want .dev

rancid timber
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Hello, i wonder if net.minecraft.server.v1_15_R1.IAsyncTaskHandler.awaitTasks() will actually cost tps?
maybe we need sync to real world something?
Don't understand

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wut

rancid timber
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In spark sampler

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net.minecraft.server.v1_15_R1.IAsyncTaskHandler.awaitTasks() 's percentage is critical to tps?

void void
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AsyncTaskHandler

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probably not

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just a guess, i dont have the code

pulsar wigeon
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except it's await

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but like, no context = no answer

void void
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yea is it syncing the results back into main or what's going on

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if so then yea prob tps cost

pulsar wigeon
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also samplers don't tell you much about tps use anyway

rancid timber
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pretty sure that method is the "oversleep"

rancid timber
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i sampled 3 secs

pulsar wigeon
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timings would prob be more useful if you want to know about tps tho

rancid timber
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Timings usually give me some random Entity which use 38% or something ticks
Can't analysis most of the time
I did use it to check no tps loss from aspects other than entity actually, i frequently see PacketProcessing or ServerOversleep costs 10~20% ticks on lag

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maybe i should change network connection thereshold to 512?

pulsar wigeon
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yea well if you take a look at what's happening below awaitTasks you'll see it's the same shit lol

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you can kinda cross-reference the timings to the sampler

rancid timber
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so, awaitTasks would cost tps?
I don't know Java await

pulsar wigeon
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the name has nothing to do with java

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PES_PoggerRetard the entity tracker strikes again

pulsar wigeon
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(there's no await keyword in java like javascript or c# anyway)

rancid timber
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so that's majang or deobfs name?

pulsar wigeon
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that's spigot's name

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also awaitTasks isn't taking a significant part of either of those spark reports

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not that i'd expect a 3 second report to be useful in any regard

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unless you're trying to diagnose an actual spike/pause

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but that doesn't affect overall TPS, which is what you were asking

rancid timber
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i thought if i sampler too long, the lag spike will fade away

void void
pulsar wigeon
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ahhh so you had a lag spike

rancid timber
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yes

pulsar wigeon
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which isn't what you were asking at all

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inb4 gc PES_PoggerRetard

pulsar wigeon
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.xy

limber knotBOT
rancid timber
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25 player can be 15tps or 20tps

pulsar wigeon
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anyway almost 1 am, have fun leaf

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o/

rancid timber
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o/

rose mist
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Does anyone here know how to read and timings report and help reduce lag spikes?

void void
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.dontask

limber knotBOT
void void
vestal jasper
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mfw I finally encountered an issue that occurs on paper but not spigot

void void
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what issue is that

vestal jasper
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something something restoring player heads via logging plugins is broken

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CO and Prism affected

void void
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👀

vestal jasper
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I just tested on Spigot and Paper

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perfectly functional on spigot but the heads don't have any texture data whatsoever when restored on paper

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logging on spigot and restoring on paper still results in the issue

versed panther
vestal jasper
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ok wat

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literally 0 world modifications between the 2, all I did was startup and join the server pepega

rancid timber
#

Are there hot chunk holder in paper? i.e. Prevent Highly used chunk from unloading
or i need to write plugin to forceloaded?

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dunno if this will make server perform better tho

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btw, if chunk load is async, why is there will be significant tps loss when player flying too fast?
Something like Packet processing?

rancid timber
#

Or it's mostly because of getChunkFutureMainThread?

void void
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if you want to ask specific performance questions related to specific threads or code features please go to #paper-dev.

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This is #general. Please read the topic and ask yourself if this is the right channel.

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I'll give you a huge hint.

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It's not.

restive coyote
rancid timber
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oh thanks

void void
#

anyone know what datapack adds zombie invasions/sieges
i saw it few days ago but forgot to bookmark it :/

fallen jungle
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you can probably dig it up from your browser history if you really need to

limber knotBOT
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The world: let's make the web plattform better, add new features to html etc

void void
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.g minecraft datapack +zombie invasion|siege

limber knotBOT
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void void
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@void void is that it

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nah it was one that adds a bunch of stuff tho

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im just going through every single datapack right now looking

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xd

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lol ok.

void void
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this dude literally waltzed right through cartel controlled land, and was let go because he talked like a bumbling idiot and couldnt speak spanish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSoFDivGIdc

LATEST MERCH: https://teespring.com/en-GB/stores/bald-and-bankrupt
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void void
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that guy in the thumbnail is a cartel enforcer but this guy is like "lol the local militia wanted to check my passport :))"

heady spear
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bald is amazing

void void
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i swear to god

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i love his channel but he needs to be more careful

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yes he got kicked out, but he was super close to getting murdered lol

limber knotBOT
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gotta live on the edge!

stone sierra
vestal jasper
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why are u a tractor

timber moon
void void
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any 1.15 plugin that severely nerfs villager trading?

latent valve
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.g spigotmc nerf villager 1.15

limber knotBOT
dapper nacelle
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time to view the 4GB of pirated video material explaining REST APIs that my teacher got his hands on for me

serene bear
strange sorrel
dapper nacelle
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so much stuff to do

keen panther
void void
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if all the villagers in a village are murdered by player/zombies do they ever respawn?

upper flicker
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no

void void
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😦

upper flicker
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not that Im aware of anyway

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you can repopulate villages though by moving other villagers in

dusk drift
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make em fuck

limber knotBOT
#

oh shit

#

my ban is over

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just in time to get banned again!

olive pivot
granite salmon
#

you have been banned?

#

abused by mods?

limber knotBOT
#

are you about to tell me what number I can call for that?

#

I demand reparations

#

all I did was ask wiz to be my valentine's

granite salmon
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oh that grump

limber knotBOT
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oh it was so peaceful in here

granite salmon
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someone doesn't like valentines day

limber knotBOT
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idk why, I feel like I was doing him a favor by asking him to be my valentine's tbh

pulsar wigeon
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i will ban you again if you keep it up

latent valve
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Oof

limber knotBOT
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what a weird thing to ban me over

granite salmon
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don't worry

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i am here to support you

limber knotBOT
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does that mean you will be magma's valentine's?

granite salmon
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no

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starting a revolution

limber knotBOT
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make love not war

granite salmon
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a war of love

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ha

limber knotBOT
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maybe paper staff has a hidden rule where they are banned from dating users

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if our love is forbidden blink three times

latent valve
limber knotBOT
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meanwhile wiz dm'ing magma about their forbidden love

latent valve
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😂 😂 😂

woven otter
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#justiceformagma worked?

upper flicker
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no

woven otter
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what

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then

upper flicker
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idk I didnt see who unbanned him

limber knotBOT
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wiz himself I guess

latent valve
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Wiz cant resist kekw

pulsar wigeon
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i did, thought maybe he'd learn

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clearly he's not interested

granite salmon
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did you ban him again...

supple lagoon
heady spear
#

yes, he did.

latent valve
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🤦 wiz is mean

woven otter
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wiz is 🚮

limber knotBOT
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wiz is a duck

latent valve
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.8ball is duck next on wiz kick list?

limber knotBOT
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shakes the magic 8 ball... You know the answer better than I

heady spear
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if mtm is ever banned then there's no point in remaining here

woven otter
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luv u ❤️

heady spear
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ew gtfo

void void
#

For anyone waiting - OptiFine 1.15.2 is finally out. Be warned, though:

limber knotBOT
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cool?

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who cares?

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tbh I literally had the same exact fps count with and without now

#

1.15 is pretty neat

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tho obviously shader and other functionality is nice

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yeah

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there are other shader mods

fallen jungle
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I care about Optifine 😤

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I need that zoom

heady spear
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what a nerd lol

#

imagine caring about things

fallen jungle
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Now I just need 1.16 optifine

topaz mortar
#

😄

void void
topaz mortar
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Optifine... Do not support it.

The developer has an add wall on front of the downloads.
The dev should release the binaries on Github so he will have less costs to handle.

heady spear
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just use the mirrors...?

limber knotBOT
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lol

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that's the last reason why one shouldn't support Optifine

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the fact that it's freaking closed source is way more annoying

topaz mortar
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City I don't use Optifine at all.

static badge
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it's not always about supporting the costs of a site

pulsar wigeon
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meanwhile seus

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🙃

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believe it or not people have more expenses than that

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seus patreon Pog

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.seus patreon

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shit

pulsar wigeon
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u dum

static badge
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.g seus patreon

limber knotBOT
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topaz mortar
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OSS can reduce theses.

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48,251 per month Pog

upper flicker
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sonicether's got himself a job now

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good on him

pulsar wigeon
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that's not a job lol

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he could retire

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he could literally take a year of that

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pay taxes

upper flicker
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thats a job yes

pulsar wigeon
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dump it in a mutual fund

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and retire

limber knotBOT
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doesn't he have a job besides that too? xD

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it is a job wiz

limber knotBOT
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I remember him working for some game company or something

heady spear
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how the hell is that not a job?

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wiz is dum

pulsar wigeon
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yall missing the point

heady spear
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what is the point, then?

topaz mortar
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It is not his "main" job.

limber knotBOT
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I hope he bought bitcoins with that back when they were only 6K each, lol

pulsar wigeon
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the point is he doesn't have to do shit anymore

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why would he bail

heady spear
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So if you make a lot of money from a job then it's no longer a job? huh

static badge
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that's called losing the patreons part 0

pulsar wigeon
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i said he can retire

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not that he will

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doesn't mean it's not a job

pulsar wigeon
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obv he can keep raking in money

heady spear
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you also said " that's not a job lol"

static badge
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wiz pepega

limber knotBOT
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meanwhile I just use Sildurs basic shaders, lol

pulsar wigeon
#

holy fuk

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yall being pedants

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and it's annoying the fuk out of me atm

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you're retarded PES_DisabledPoggers

green turret
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That's not a job, that's my wife!

topaz mortar
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The PlotSquared/FAWE guys should do Patreon as well. Could be a big stimulation to spend more time into the topics of rewriting.

pulsar wigeon
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except there's no motivation to spend outside of "supporting them"

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it's foss

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and turns out unless you can pay a full time salary, people still have other shit to do

limber knotBOT
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could just lock access behind a pay wall ¯_(ツ)_/¯

pulsar wigeon
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yeaaaaaaa they could

limber knotBOT
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but AWE tried that and it didn't turn out well, lol

upper flicker
#

it didnt turn out well because FAWE became a thing

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despite whatever some will say that F meant free for most of the community

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not fast

pulsar wigeon
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turns out people would rather go fast for free than slow for premium

limber knotBOT
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well it would probably not have taken off so fast if AWE wasn't locked

pulsar wigeon
#

meh

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jesse originally made fawe for some big build server or something

limber knotBOT
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(besides the whole fact of selling a fork of worldedit, lol)

pulsar wigeon
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they would never have bought into awe's 🚮

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fawe originally wasn't a fork either btw

#

did roughly the same thing as awe with runtime injection shit

modern citrus
high cosmos
heady spear
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PlotSquared is going freemium, we're not going to offer any free support in the future. The source will still be open

pulsar wigeon
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tbh i kinda like that model

heady spear
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idk what's going on with FAWE, but they're supposedly making progress. The main issue is that Jesse left everything in a very broken state and it took a while and a half for people to pick it up

pulsar wigeon
#

fuuid does it

peak dirge
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Fast Async World Exception

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sorry wiz for stealing your line

pulsar wigeon
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it's city's actually

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i stole it from him

peak dirge
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oic

pulsar wigeon
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tbh i think the main issue is that matt is the only person who seems to actually be interested enough/have enough motivation/time to devote to working on fawe

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problem is most people just don't care anymore cuz they don't have any use for it themselves, don't play MC anymore etc

heady spear
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It works for PlotSquared because it's basically fully functioning, but we've kinda given up on the community. This way we filter out all of the entitled assholes, and that means we can focus on the people that care enough to support us

#

if you can't spend money on the plugin, just grab it from jenkins and use that

peak dirge
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When I made RedisBungee freemium I still had a lot of assholes

heady spear
#

our plugins attract a special kind of assholes lol

peak dirge
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Perhaps I didn't charge enough money (I set my price at $12.49)

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I think the next time I have a plugin like that (lol) I'll make them pay $89

heady spear
#

We used to have a couple of regulars that threw money at us for a while, and they kind of helped shape the direction of the development

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we prioritised their suggestions etc, but they're not really in the server community anymore

peak dirge
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then again, what can a 15-year old kid wish for when their family was piss poor

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because that's the environment in which RedisBungee was born into

heady spear
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Also, damn did it feel good to completely drop support for older minecraft versions

#

if people ask for help with anything before 1.13 I just yeet them the fuck away

pulsar wigeon
#

yea that helps a lot

#

the 1.8 crowd is...

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.-.

peak dirge
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bUt I wAnT iT 4 mAh 1.7 PeEvVvEeE sErVeR :(((((((((((((

heady spear
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1.8 people are bad, but Nukkit people are worse.

limber knotBOT
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Nukkit?

peak dirge
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any dweeb can convince mommy and daddy to drop $9.99 for bedrock

heady spear
#

Nukkit is Bukkit for bedrock edition :p

peak dirge
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because they can sacrifice that cash at the altar of great consumerism

heady spear
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although I think it's nukkitx now?

peak dirge
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the app store

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yeah, nukkitx is the actually maintained version

#

the bedrock community is a special breed of dumb

heady spear
pulsar wigeon
#

you sure you're not accidentally giving your stats to WG?

#

:^)

heady spear
#

but maybe we can make enough back to cover athion's jenkins cost 😛

peak dirge
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Velocity is big dead

heady spear
#

velocity is big sexy tho

peak dirge
#

but maybe I can make back the $30/month I pay to DigitalOcean for the VPSes

#

right now that comes out of my college money

#

and I'm getting less of that now because I had to withdraw from a class

heady spear
#

right, I used to cover most of our costs before I cried enough about it for someone else to host our shit

#

that an loads of dumb gdpr threats and I just rage quit

static badge
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gdpr kekw

pastel skiff
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Does bungee kill worldguard regions?

pulsar wigeon
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that was some gud shit lol

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someone threatened some gdpr action cuz they used a debug paste command that uploaded their log

#

🍿

static badge
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how'd that end kappa

pastel skiff
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Cos my region r in theworldguard config but its not showing a region

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Oh nvm on wrong server

heady spear
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I deleted all of our web apps and handed over discord server ownership

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and then I didn't touch the plugin for a couple of months x)

olive garden
#

you simply do not calculate factorial using just recursion

static badge
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just use a for loop

heady spear
pulsar wigeon
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it's a bukkit/forge hybrid

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from the chinese community

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apparently works decently ¯_(ツ)_/¯

static badge
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.g catserver

limber knotBOT
static badge
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holy shit how'd that work

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or did it wtf is this shit

pulsar wigeon
static badge
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sure that's not japanese

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hm 2k serburs

pulsar wigeon
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yes despite the weeb avatar, that's chinese

static badge
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holy shit this setup

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it looks like they copy pasta'd bukkit into cb

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then added some forge shit

pulsar wigeon
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lmao

cosmic raft
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hey wiz

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limbo is back :))

static badge
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and then they have patches

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so they copy pasta'd forge, cb, and bukkit into one src

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and then use a patch system for nms

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ok

heady spear
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some dude asked me if he could repost plotsquared on some chinese forum

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but it was already there, and the thread is popping

peak dirge
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Fun stuff

pulsar wigeon
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yea i saw kashike

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i'll take the opportunity to kick leaf whenever i feel like it

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:^)

peak dirge
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I found a bug in those Bukkit-Forge hybrids with tab lists

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Velocity exposed it as it doesn't rewrite tab lists like dumb bungee does

heady spear
#

107 pages of posts .-.

peak dirge
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someone posted velocity on a chinese forum too

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very muted tho

cosmic raft
#

wonder if this still works

twin lagoon
#

you'll want to check out Magma

cosmic raft
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~paper-2937

pulsar wigeon
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worldedit's got one too

twin lagoon
#

magma is 1.12.2 forge with spigot support

pulsar wigeon
#

there's a whole guide in chinese too

static badge
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was not aware the chinese minecraft community is popping

heady spear
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There's this entire community that you never hear from

pulsar wigeon
#

mcbbs yo

heady spear
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kinda weird lol

twin lagoon
peak dirge
#

I have to go to class lol

twin lagoon
#

actively maintained and seemed to be mostly working when i used it

pulsar wigeon
#

catserver looks maintained too tbf

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the instructions are in chinese though

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probably

pulsar wigeon
#

yea

twin lagoon
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fine

pulsar wigeon
#

just learn chinese

twin lagoon
#

actively maintained & english

static badge
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imagine filing a bug report kekw

pulsar wigeon
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but like

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main issue i have with magmafoundation still

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having never used the software

heady spear
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they're partnered with songoda

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that makes me scared

twin lagoon
#

that's the one thing that sucks

pulsar wigeon
#

well

stiff yarrow
pulsar wigeon
#

i was gonna show how their website is covered in lorem ipsum but it's not loading

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oh hey 20 seconds later it finally loaded

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looks like they fixed their front page too

static badge
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lorem ipsum?

twin lagoon
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dolor sit amet

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tf

heady spear
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huh it's a registered foundation

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why tho

pulsar wigeon
#

here we go

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money?

pulsar wigeon
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that was their site as of a week ago or two

heady spear
#

how much money can they really make

static badge
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.g Lorem ipsum meme

latent valve
limber knotBOT
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what the fuck is this

heady spear
#

have you never heard of lorum ipsum?

static badge
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no

pulsar wigeon
heady spear
#

bless your heart

static badge
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I'm not retarded

twin lagoon
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leaf what the fuck

heady spear
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this is my favorite

twin lagoon
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yeah there's a couple variations on it

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i like baconipsum too

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PLACEHOLDER TEXT WORKS TOO GUYS

twin lagoon
#

lorem ipsum is placeholder text

pulsar wigeon
#

^

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you fucking web devs are crazy fuckers

pulsar wigeon
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it's not even a web dev thing

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been used for print for ages

twin lagoon
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i genuinely do not understand how you have never heard of it before

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and you're a developer

pulsar wigeon
#

meh

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print

pulsar wigeon
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one of today's 10000

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the real joke is his outrage over something he's never heard of being a thing

heady spear
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leaf is not like the rest of us

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he's special

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stiff yarrow
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Web dev 🤢

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I agree

left swift
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I need a meatier Lorem ipsum

heady spear
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I need meat

pulsar wigeon
#

seems a bit contradictory

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how are you a gay vegan tho for real

static badge
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yeah that's pretty weird

heady spear
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I'm not a vegan

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you lying

heady spear
#

!!!

left swift
#

The bamboozle

heady spear
#

and I'm not gay

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so there we go

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big doubt

green turret
pulsar wigeon
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i mean, just cuz you can't find any guy who will take you doesn't make you not gay

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and just cuz you also can't find any girl who will take you doesn't make you not bi

#

:^)

stiff yarrow
#

Are you gay if you’re bi Thonk

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being bi is pretty gay so yes

heady spear
#

Am bi and I am not a vegan because I consume both dairy and eggs so

pulsar wigeon
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yea being bi is both gay + straight

left swift
pulsar wigeon
#

so definitely still gay

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it's simple set theory

heady spear
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also I don't chomp down on pp so that wouldn't make me not vegan

pulsar wigeon
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oh, vegetarian then i guess

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who cares

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also given how vehemently you speak against dairy

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

left swift
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Maybe he's lack toes and taller ants

heady spear
#

I just said it's processed 😛 I actually have very little against small scaled dairy farms

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we used to have a bunch of cows before my mom set them on fire

pulsar wigeon
#

.-.

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poor cows

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burgers Pog

left swift
#

🍔

heady spear
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I don't like big scale industrial farms, mostly because they tend to treat the animals like crap. But that's a different story.

pulsar wigeon
#

i think i went over this when we had this discussion but my great aunt also had cows in her basement/barn

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then she got too old to take care of them so she gave them to the neighbors or something

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how long do cows live

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cuz that was like 10 years ago now

left swift
#

Atleast 5 in dog years

pulsar wigeon
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wonder if they're dead by now

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.g average life span of a cow

limber knotBOT
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.wa average life span of a cow

limber knotBOT
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come on wa

left swift
#

I was right

pulsar wigeon
#

no you weren't?

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5 in dog years = 30-40 years?

#

or did you mean that the other way around

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.wa how many human years is 5 dog years

limber knotBOT
static badge
#

yeah you're way off

left swift
pulsar wigeon
#

.wa 5 human years to dog years

limber knotBOT
stiff yarrow
#

Is that average counting the ones we butcher

heady spear
#

he did say "at least"

left swift
#

But what about cow years to dog years

pulsar wigeon
#

yea ok just misinterpreted

heady spear
#

either way I am pretty lonely so I'll be opening up for dating application so people can get a chance to date me

pulsar wigeon
#

well i assumed he meant at least 5 (converted to) dog years, so at least 35 human years

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but cows are 20 human years, so that's less than 35

stiff yarrow
#

Okcupid is good for long term dating

left swift
#

Grinder

heady spear
#

I met my ex on tinder, that worked out great

stiff yarrow
#

Okcupid is setup more towards info dumping

unreal quarry
#

it doesnt matter where you met your ex. it never works out great. (thats why they're your ex)

#

runs away

stiff yarrow
#

You can end a relationship on good terms you know

limber knotBOT
#

If you just want a leg over PlentyofFish

stiff yarrow
#

When I tried tinder it was too wild for me

heady spear
#

We ended it on great terms, I just jump out of the bus in case he enter it, and I avoided his faculty at uni for half a year

stiff yarrow
#

😱

left swift
#

If u go into every relationship expecting it to end you will never be disappointed :,)

pulsar wigeon
#

every relationship ends

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heady spear
#

He did cheat on me and pretended to play board games though, that was great

pulsar wigeon
#

you just gotta hope it ends with you both dying at an old age happily together in your sleep

stiff yarrow
#

My current girlfriend is pretty great, we binge watch anime together and she’s seen all of Star Trek pog

left swift
#

Mirrors aren't girlfriends

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was it the girl u said liked anime or something way back nossr

topaz mortar
#

Star Trek mcheart

heady spear
#

but she won't let you use pepes

#

so is it really worth it?

unreal quarry
#

Devs don't have s/o's. Didn't we cover this last week in vc?

stiff yarrow
#

Same girl

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Pog u did it

stiff yarrow
#

She’s cute af

ember crag
#

My gf and I have been together 12 years. : )

pulsar wigeon
#

not into the marriage thing or?

#

that's a lot time to consider someone in the dating stage

heady spear
#

oh and in high school one of my ex's dads got a restraining order against me after she ran away from home

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that was fun

stiff yarrow
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There’s some minor financial gains to marriage

ember crag
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It's a money thing. We come from broke families so we're 100% on the hook for all wedding costs. Decided a house was a better investment, so we bought the house together instead.

left swift
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Marriage is good for taxes

stiff yarrow
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Just don’t have a wedding

unreal quarry
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You've been with your gf longer than I've been with my wife @ember crag lol

pulsar wigeon
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yea wat

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you don't have to pay a lot to get married

limber knotBOT
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Pffftt

pulsar wigeon
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walk into the courthouse, sign some documents, costs nearly nothing

unreal quarry
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My marriage was $125

heady spear
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also if u don't get married then you can't have sex

pulsar wigeon
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get tax benefits

unreal quarry
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Justice of peace ftw

ember crag
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No, but she wants a fancy ceremony. I'm fine with waiting if she gets what she wants.

pulsar wigeon
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have a big party later when it's in your means

heady spear
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12 years without sex doesn't sound nice

left swift
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Get married by an Elvis impersonator in Vegas Pog

static badge
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kekw true city

pulsar wigeon
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would get married just for tax healthcare etc tbh :^)

stiff yarrow
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Same wiz

heady spear
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I wanna get married so I can get divorced

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then complain about being divorced

pulsar wigeon
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and steal half their money?

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oh

limber knotBOT
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Loose half of your stuff as well

pulsar wigeon
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yea you would

left swift
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Is there a world record for someone having the most divorces

ember crag
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Did the math on healthcare. We save money with separate insurance.

pulsar wigeon
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it's ok vert he has no stuff

heady spear
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I have no stuff

unreal quarry
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Income tax is nicer too once married, btw. How you think I get $10k returned every year? :p

stiff yarrow
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How do you save money with separate health care

heady spear
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they can get half my socks

stiff yarrow
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Oh wait not married

ember crag
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Yeah. +1 coverage costs more than she pays for hers from work.

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And it's the same insurance because same employer.

pulsar wigeon
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where do you live

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US?

ember crag
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Yeah

pulsar wigeon
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wtf?

stiff yarrow
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Marriage is like free healthcare for one person

pulsar wigeon
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same employer?

heady spear
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paying for healthcare is wild

pulsar wigeon
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+1 costs more than base???

stiff yarrow
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I pay 420 a month for health insurance

pulsar wigeon
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what kind of backwards health plan does your employer give

stiff yarrow
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I cry everytime I pay it

unreal quarry
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Healthcare is a bitch, I can agree to that 100%

heady spear
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That's one good thing about living in socialism country

left swift
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Everyone poor KEKW

stiff yarrow
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If I ever went to ER without it though I’d be fucked

ember crag
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Yeah. Employer only pays their portion for the employee. Addons are full cost. I've got a coworker who pays $350/wk for him, wife, 4 kids. I pay $35/wk for mine, gf pays same for hers.

heady spear
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we may not have freedom of speech but at least I can afford to put into healtcare queues for 5 years

pulsar wigeon
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the fuk is that lol

ember crag
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And that's on the standard plan.

pulsar wigeon
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i pay like 70/month for just me, and i get up to ~3k/yr match on HSA contributions

ember crag
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They don't match HSA, so I just invest what I would have contributed there.

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Tbh, I miss when my mom used to work for Blue Cross. Best insurance I had until I turned 25.

pulsar wigeon
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i work at the same place my mom worked before she retired :^)

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so i'm on the same plan

ember crag
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I work at an automotive lighting manufacturer. Parent company is Japanese, so everything is as cheap for them as possible.

limber knotBOT
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here in socialist germany, health care is free

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runs

ember crag
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But it's good take home pay if you have the self control to manage your own finances.

limber knotBOT
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Same here in the uk and we dont have hairy women

heady spear
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I had to pay $10 per night I spent at the hospital after my surgery

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healthcare in Sweden is rough

green turret
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Y'all need Bernie to get some of this socialism up in ya!

limber knotBOT
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he has good chances

heady spear
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but he's like 200 years old

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will he even live through the entire term

cosmic raft
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rood

limber knotBOT
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yeah, he should be like 20 years younger