Given how many independent labels and artists simply fail
#general
acoustic pilot
olive garden
do you guys care about music this much, or do you just have an extraordinary ability to argue about stuff?
limber knotBOT
oh we really don't give a shit
pulsar wigeon
pretty sure they just want to argue
acoustic pilot
I used to care about musicians lol
limber knotBOT
there's a longstanding tradition in this room of me shitting on wiz's opinions for being wrong and dumb
acoustic pilot
But then realized it's their own fault for the most part 🙂
So don't care either way
limber knotBOT
I'm pretty sure we had a very similar discussion just last week and I have no recollection of what it was about
but I'm confident that I was right about every single last aspect of it
upper flicker
limber knotBOT
they hated jesus for he spoke the truth
heady spear
Magma is big smart and he’s going to be a great daddy to me and my children
limber knotBOT
how does weeb get pergonante
acoustic pilot
Lucky children, two daddies
heady spear
But also he has sound arguments and not big dumb like certain people in here
Which is why he should be president of the world
limber knotBOT
remember for vote for me as god-emperor of mankind 2020
that's why people were so confused when counting the iowa caucus, everyone wrote in magmaguy god-emperor of mankind 2002
unfortunately it got misreported by the fake news
acoustic pilot
too lazy to vote this year
heady spear
Elections r a fraud, the Brazilian control the government
Spend your money in coffee beans and liquid nitrogen instead. We need to prepare for the big invasion. So one will be spared, hunted are the weak. The bus is a lie
limber knotBOT
just because the only bus you ever rode on is the short bus doesn't make non-short buses a lie
heady spear
You’re crazy if you think they won’t get you too
pulsar wigeon
liquid nitrogen? 
limber knotBOT
I've been called worse thing by better people
heady spear
Don’t call me once your dead
heady spear
I’ve sold my phone because I don’t want electromagnetic waves in my apartment
They are bad and used to spy on you. Ban all electromagnetic waves
limber knotBOT
ban the sun, it's too bright
heady spear
I read about a woman that got headaches from London dispersion forces so we should ban those too. The UN has to act
limber knotBOT
we should ban existing, that causes harm!
heady spear
Dipole moments are the cause of homosexuality
limber knotBOT
I keep telling everyone that we should ship all kids to australia until they are old enough to become productive members of society but for some reason no one's listening to me
heady spear
Australia is a hologram
limber knotBOT
just repurpose australia to become a massive school
that way I'll stop thinking about shooting a 12 gauge shotgun at my ceiling until I am no longer able to hear the upstairs neighbor's kid
heady spear
people are killed to death daily
heady spear
way to kill the mood
coarse urchin
Twitter
limber knotBOT
Nylium
"Netherite tools work faster and last longer than diamond"
wow
o.o
eww, /locatebiome command... I bet that loads chunks xD
latent valve
i will skip this 1.16 ask so i wont get kick
limber knotBOT
good idea
and I'm probably going to revert this on my server: "Ghasts sounds are now heard at a shorter range" xD
latent valve
do they also add a list of "what bug n lag we have introduce in 1.16 too?"
latent valve
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 😂
limber knotBOT
aill delet u
golden gust
PLZ DO
limber knotBOT
overwrites electroniccat with pictures of magma
magma
I think what kenny is tryna say, is that he wants you
¯_(ツ)_/¯
MY REPLACEMENTS WORK
HOLY... I FORGOT THE BEAUTY
w u t
(electroniccat) smea - Adventures In Smart Buttplug Penetration testing - DEF CON 27 Conference - length 45m 34s - 1,979 likes, 46 dislikes (97.7%) - 80,226 views - DEFCONConference on 2019.11.16
pulsar wigeon
lmao
limber knotBOT
oO
if you hack a buttplug and mess with it
is it rape?
thanks for asking the wrong questions, magma
did they consent by having a hackable buttplug in in the first place?
so many questions
so few answers
did I just install a modpack 🤔
if that's lead armor I recommend you licking it
it'll make you heavy metal
ok then
oh lol that's neat
this isn't even their final form
really hate the biome transitions, like, mojang pls, you can do better
pulsar wigeon
yea it's pretty bad
completely fucking arbitrary
idk why they changed biomes like that
you could see it in 1.15 too
formal venture
I don't understand what's so wrong with them
limber knotBOT
I actually meant the transition between the fog, the color abruptly changes
but then I saw that block transitions
lmao
pulsar wigeon
oh, yea i was talking about the blocks
coarse urchin
Perhaps you have biome blending setting turned off?
pulsar wigeon
i guess it "makes sense" for natural biome transitions, but it also completely fucks over map makers
limber knotBOT
pulsar wigeon
oh jesus lol
limber knotBOT
lmao
epic flicker
I mean, tbf, that spot is pretty nasty in the way the biomes overlap
but like, no transition should look like that
upper flicker
wtf is that
pulsar wigeon
WELCOME TO THE NETHER UPDATE Z
upper flicker
Hopefully that is something they’re working on
limber knotBOT
some biomes have red fog, some had blue fog
pulsar wigeon
it's newest snapshot
upper flicker
And just didn’t make the snapshot or is broken
limber knotBOT
if you switch between them, it flickers
pulsar wigeon
yea i mean
upper flicker
inb4 it ships that way
limber knotBOT
needs a gradient just like grass
pulsar wigeon
latent valve
Lmao that transition
olive garden
Mojang pls
limber knotBOT
found a 3rd color
😂
guess that enough testing for me
else am getting epilepsy or smth
unreal quarry
Inb4 Minecraft ships with flashing colors warning for epilipsy
limber knotBOT
but the never actually looks like a place worth exploring
mah baby had a seizure from shaking the mouse around spastically, I'm suing you
so theres that
woven otter
cAvE uPdAtE
limber knotBOT
ur mum update
pulsar wigeon
minecraft is boring tbh
woven otter
just like u
pulsar wigeon
like let's be real, mojang can't keep up with mods anyway
limber knotBOT
when was mojang ever keeping up with mods?
woven otter
^
pulsar wigeon
never
woven otter
mods do it better anyways
limber knotBOT
I still think that mojang working on a modding api is the best solution
olive garden
Modded Minecraft (3rd party)
limber knotBOT
I don't think it'll ever happen but it's the solution that would make the most sense imo
pulsar wigeon
i'm just pointing out that content-wise mojang will always be super limited. vanilla gameplay is too "short". people make their own fun by making builds or w/e as the "endgame"
olive garden
s\but\since
limber knotBOT
add a few core features but mostly work on making it as easy as possible to develop for
pulsar wigeon
like, the "survival" gameplay is lackluster, it's really just a sandbox
limber knotBOT
also tbf you say the game is too "short" but no game is meant to be played for over 1000 hours
pulsar wigeon
i mean, it's literally just a few hours to "beat" the game at normal pace
void void
also ya vanilla survival succcc
limber knotBOT
I stopped counting how many hours I've put into minecraft but I suspect it's closed to 2k hours at this point
closer*
wot the protocol jumped from 578 to 701
pulsar wigeon
yea they do that
the combat snapshots are 600
i guess they just want to keep space in between stuff
protocol version is just a number
limber knotBOT
just like age
cosmic raft
:)
woven otter
(:
orchid ginkgo
unreal quarry
Minecraft, to me at least, isn't a game. It's a game engine for modders to build games. It would be a lot better at it, too, if Mojang would stop treating it like it's a game ;)
golden gust
lol
limber knotBOT
well, hopes still high from me
golden gust
I know a few peeps who have an interest in the game, but like, gotta see where it goes...
limber knotBOT
I can wait a year
latent valve
F
cosmic raft
I'll never leave Minecraft, however :)
golden gust
I have no idea what imma do, depends on what all my mates do, who knows, maybe I'll have gotten to releasing an mc server by then and sod it off
woven otter
PaperTale
cosmic raft
Pale
woven otter
HyPaper
cosmic raft
...nearly done
limber knotBOT
HyPaleper
unreal quarry
Cat, you can join me when I make PaperTowel
cosmic raft
2020-02-05 09:47:52.953 [DEBUG] [main ] [TaskPipelineImpl ]: task '20w06a'
2020-02-05 09:47:52.953 [DEBUG] [main ] [TaskPipelineImpl ]: initialising...
2020-02-05 09:47:52.953 [DEBUG] [main ] [TaskPipelineImpl ]: initialised in 0ms
2020-02-05 09:47:52.953 [DEBUG] [main ] [TaskPipelineImpl ]: executing...
2020-02-05 10:02:02.375 [DEBUG] [main ] [TaskPipelineImpl ]: executed in 849422ms
2020-02-05 10:02:02.375 [DEBUG] [main ] [TaskPipelineImpl ]: task '20w06a' took 849422ms
wheee
limber knotBOT
I can give you some ToiletPaper
golden gust
golden gust
advantages of kashike:
hopping around MC related discords is ez as he's literally in everything
limber knotBOT
I'm still convinced kashike is secretly a lizard trying to take over the world
knotty nebula
hey I just installed ClearLagg and it's limiting the spawns like crazy though in the config I have all the limits set to off, any ideas why?
void void
$ ./jlink.sh
Error: No version in java.base descriptor
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: No version in java.base descriptor
at jdk.jlink/jdk.tools.jlink.internal.JlinkTask.lambda$newModuleFinder$18(JlinkTask.java:445)
at java.base/java.util.Optional.orElseThrow(Optional.java:401)
at jdk.jlink/jdk.tools.jlink.internal.JlinkTask.newModuleFinder(JlinkTask.java:444)
at jdk.jlink/jdk.tools.jlink.internal.JlinkTask.initJlinkConfig(JlinkTask.java:371)
at jdk.jlink/jdk.tools.jlink.internal.JlinkTask.run(JlinkTask.java:268)
at jdk.jlink/jdk.tools.jlink.internal.Main.run(Main.java:54)
at jdk.jlink/jdk.tools.jlink.internal.Main.main(Main.java:33)
:(
no matter what am tryin
JAVA_HOME=/Users/mark/projects/jdk13u/build/macosx-x86_64-server-release/jdk
"${JAVA_HOME}"/bin/jlink --compress=1 --no-header-files --no-man-pages --strip-debug \
-J-Djlink.debug=true --verbose \
--module-path "${JAVA_HOME}/modules" \
--add-modules java.base \
--output ./out
ghh
void void
pfft
golden gust
plugins which butcher natural mobs, etc; or stack natural mobs, leads to your server crippling itself tryna spawn natural mobs
knotty nebula
it does though, I went from 15 tps with 10ppl on to 20tps with 10ppl on
golden gust
Yea, and I'm sure that that TPS improvement doesn't last
If you want help with clearlagg specifically, go ask them
But, seriously, proper configuration goes much further than plugin bandaids
.optimize
limber knotBOT
Guide for optimizing performance: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimization⚡.283181/
knotty nebula
I'm new to all of this, where do I change all the files to improve the lag?
void void
re jlink problemo: i specified wrong module path. should be .../jmods not .../modules never mind
golden gust
and basically, a mob farm limiter is what I suggest, stacking spawner mobs can help too, but, can't really vouch for any stacker plugins, tbh 🤷♂️
knotty nebula
I'll make sure to read that server opti guide, thanks
merry talon
just keep worldguard's /stoplag on all the time 
half flax
knotty nebula
hey, I know this might be a stupid question but how much storage should I have for a 20k wide world?
if I want to pregenerate the chunks
left swift
.flags
limber knotBOT
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
wraith glen
guys 1.15.2 is stable version or no?
limber knotBOT
:aaa:
hey mini is our relationship status stable
I mean
It can't drop lower
So I guess?
topaz rune
anyone tried 1.16 yet
limber knotBOT
aw hell yeah
1.16 is released?
yeah already set up paper 1.16, looks good
no bugs
much good
topaz rune
snapshots yea
limber knotBOT
I'm working on my paper 1.20 setup
it's a good update
I personally use 2.1
nah they jumped the shark after 1.420
I personally cry myself to sleep every night
oh that's tight kenny
I ran out of tears years ago
you should introduce me to your supplier
it's costly, but worth its price
I'll just ask for Vertanzil to help you, he'll make you cry for free
ok
vert
make me cry
I think he's currently absend/crying himself
absent*
wow
so selfish
he just lives his job, you know
getting high off his own supply
I'm leaving a 1 star review on yelp
I was pleasuring myself to a picture of your mum riding bareback
riding bareback is no joke
it's super tough on your thighs
Lots of "saddle sore"
I recommend saddles for horseback riding
and magnum sized condoms for their magnum sized d-
placid thicket
this is pretty damn sick, especially with the new tool/armor
placid thicket
if we got nothing else i would be happy with the first snapshot
limber knotBOT
can't wait for all the plugins that'll break due to the new armor/tool stuff
placid thicket
right? and being able to respawn in the nether
that should break things interestingly
limber knotBOT
I worry more about some idiots having hardcoded material names for all possible armor or tool items xD
limber knotBOT
Thank God I use tags for everything
upper flicker
I assume even if you arent using tags you can pretty much get the mc key and just do an ends with "_PICKAXE" or whatever too
doesnt mean anyone does that
all apis should be string apis, clearly
limber knotBOT
No joke that's how I would have redone the Material enum
Just replaced it with a string
placid thicket
the new armor uses diamond armor in its recipe, its treated as an armor upgrade, currently this wipes enchants. NBT crafting support confirmed?
upper flicker
I know of a few private plugins that just iterate all materials, check the ending of the mckey, then throw the mat in an enumset for this sort of equipment stuff
its not the worst thing Ive ever heard of
certainly probably worse ways you could do it
upper flicker
lol
if you want to overcomplicate it you could throw in some profunctor optics or something too
limber knotBOT
why waste memory storing it? :think_smart:
placid thicket
could you imagine the problems NBT crafting will bring?
pulsar wigeon
mods have been doing that shit for ages tho?
upper flicker
I will add a duplicate thinksmart emote with an underscore just for you
upper flicker
there, I got you
upper flicker
placid thicket
the new tools float in lava and dont burn, sick!
knotty nebula
I'm really fucking confused as to the talking bits lmao
placid thicket
new soulfire torches and lanterns too
limber knotBOT
yeah they look neat
wide chasm
I got 3/4 acronyms, what is the second?
limber knotBOT
a german company
wide chasm
Oh, okay
limber knotBOT
one of the biggest database management and software companies in europe
olive garden
wow, SAP is not that useless after all
limber knotBOT
yea, like really big https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAP_SE :p
olive garden
they did give me free hot chocolate too tbh
limber knotBOT
they didn't bother showing up on the java congress that I visited once while studying though 🤔
Oh god kotlin is horrid
golden gust
nou
cosmic raft
I don't like the whole number situation either
golden gust
Literally started this project in kotlin, and had to add a java class or two because of it
cosmic raft
magically chooses between boxed and unboxed
limber knotBOT
Someone i know has peaked my intrested in it but I fear I might be a java purist
I hate that it encourages you to not write verbose code
Its like one of the most usefull tools for debuggin
golden gust
I mean, my major love is null being part of the type system
That's just ❤️
Generics are a blow point
Like, kotlin is nice to work in, but the major language it's tryna fight against is slooowly catching up
and, it's like, not as global as it
So, it's like :L
I don't think I'd write a public project in it, tbqh
But, for prototyping/personal stuff, I freaking love it
wide chasm
It's just that you dum.
limber knotBOT
No one lieks you
olive garden
So, stef, your website is still broken
wide chasm
I didn't even see that it broke lol
olive garden
I literally pinged you
against the rules, probably
the point is, that is no excuse!
olive garden
I found a bug
limber knotBOT
olive garden
have a small enough window so that the sidebar disappears, click the button that opens the sidebar and maximize the window and close the sidebar
this makes it really hard to use your website, please fix
wide chasm
Am I supposed to handle the maximize button differently than stretching the screen with web dev? Cause I was under the impression that browsers were smart enough to figure that out themselves.
Stretching the screen does seem to work properly.
wide chasm
Actually this is materializecss's fault, see https://github.com/Dogfalo/materialize/issues/6350. Their website (http://materializecss.com/) has this issue as well. So: 'wontfix'.
olive garden
okay, I will create a GitHub issue
limber knotBOT
Wang
olive garden
opened an issue on your repo, you're welcome
now you have reason to open an issue on their repo
austere ivy
How long have biomes been 3D for?
celest crypt
void void
lolwut?
limber knotBOT
1.15
austere ivy
Huh, interesting. Thank you.
olive garden
wait, what? are biomes 3d?
I'm guessing that means different blocks on the same X, Z coordinates can have a different biome
unreal quarry
Storage is 3d. Not in the world
olive garden
I see, thanks
limber knotBOT
4x4x4 areas
topaz mortar
Implementing 4D Biomes. Also called seasons. 😄
olive garden
clever :D
austere ivy
@unreal quarry what do you mean it's not in the world? As in not implemented in the game yet?
I asked because it seem it has been.
New 1.16 snapshot, same xz, different y, different biome.
static badge
is there already snapshots?
static badge
hm looks like those prs will actually land after 1.16
oh 4 hours ago
yeah it's called I have things to do
knotty nebula
Could someone please explain the usage of serverlistpingevent?
golden gust
what do you mean, "explain the usage"
knotty nebula
whats the plugin for?
static badge
Called when a server list ping is coming in. Displayed players can bechecked and removed by {@link #iterator() iterating} over this event.
golden gust
That's an event, not a plugin
pulsar wigeon
what do you mean you have "things to do"
potent warren
Vertanzil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hyUBtHpuus
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) 絶対鳴らしてはいけないスネハーモニカがめちゃめちゃ面白かった！！ - length 8m 28s - 121,864 likes, 5,331 dislikes (95.8%) - 13,880,403 views - Fischer's-フィッシャーズ- on 2018.11.15
potent warren
At the end the video gets funnier and funnier 😄
limber knotBOT
How did you even find this
woven otter
what is wrong with you
limber knotBOT
you be quiet duck, 1.8 server owners are far worse
woven otter
disappointing
limber knotBOT
and did you even manage to fix the block placement?
limber knotBOT
scrub
limber knotBOT
yes I'll close your pr and just copy paste and commit the code myself :aaa:
woven otter
grim sierra
limber knotBOT
20
knotty nebula
well then why is it 20.08
grim sierra
Your minecraft server is from the future
pulsar wigeon
because whatever plugin is doing that calculation isn't accounting for catchup
knotty nebula
its essentialsx
knotty nebula
but why did it go suddenly from 13tps to 20.08?
potent warren
you too.
limber knotBOT
why do you use it then?
potent warren
well, I'd say it's a commission.
woven otter
well no because people are retards
topaz cradle
fallen marten
undone badge
vestal jasper
It's called tps catchup
woven otter
what
vestal jasper
Also mfw internet bad
woven otter
vestal jasper
"but why did it go suddenly from 13tps to 20.08?"
woven otter
ok Vic
quasi valley
tps ketchup
woven otter
Mr. Kennyman
left swift
what about tps mustard
vestal jasper
Lol
woven otter
Not great
MinecraftDev has no Velocity support and as a clueless human being I'm clueless
Very cluess
what is gradle
and how to use it
quasi valley
What a misery!
quasi valley
You can make a Velocity plugin with maven tho?
quasi valley
I also „learnt“ about its annotations by glancing at other plugins 😂
Yes much notepad
pastel skiff
Anyone know how to stop wildtp putting users in walls
quasi valley
Why is there a lost person every day here asking for wild support
quasi valley
:aaa:
woven otter
it's ironic isn't it
quasi valley
Can’t it teleport people out of this place again
pastel skiff
I got reccomended the plugin in here lol
golden gust
There was a spigot change recently that broke some wilderness tp plugins
Beyond that, doesn't mean that we support it
void void
what was the change? lmao
woven otter
Nice gaussian distribution there kenny
pastel skiff
I'll just disable it atm
quasi valley
😂
golden gust
now returns the proper highest block, as opposed to 1 above it
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) xkcd: Workflow (11 February 2013)
quasi valley
I just throw people into the air with a bit of blindness, teleport them from up there and let them fall down from a high place
golden gust
makes me wonder how long that that has been a bug for lol
quasi valley
Has more swag and doesn’t have that problem :aaa:
void void
i just wrote a small recursive util that keeps checking adjacent blocks until they're all air and the one under their feet is something safe to stand on
awhile ago
i dont just trust bukkit
limber knotBOT
well my random teleport plugin wont put players in blocks even with that change ¯_(ツ)_/¯
it only uses the highest block as a basis and does some extra checks for solid ones (e.g. to not teleport on/inside leaves)
quasi valley
Why’s there so many dum plugins out there
void void
only side effect of that, is that if they tp to specific coords and my util is used, they may be taken somewhere else if for example the coords led directly to some lava
limber knotBOT
because most of them suck
there's a reason I have 81 repositories on github xD (and may serve rorg another 69)
*my
quasi valley
nice
limber knotBOT
yeah, just noticed that too xD
serene bolt
phoenix has the best RTP plugin for sure 
quasi valley
It’s nice to know that there are German devs that aren’t absolute dum dums :aaa:
limber knotBOT
well most of them are smart enough to take money for it instead of wasting their time with open source...
quasi valley
limber knotBOT
so you mostly only see kids trying to do stuff as Minecraft is still pretty popular here
quasi valley
Not wanting to blame people, but do you know how good ol biggest server here is done? 👀
golden gust
are you supposed to be able to feed tamable entities which you don't own in mc?
golden gust
I mean, I know I don't
quasi valley
only scrubs play Minecraft
pastel skiff
Prefer COD
limber knotBOT
doesn't look like the server would block that cat
golden gust
Yea, that's the mojang bug where you can un/sit others entities
Looks like it's more janky than it should be, tbqh
quasi valley
Wasn’t that a bug in/before 1.15 and fixed once
limber knotBOT
uh, I wonder how that could happen. it looks like it shouldn't allow unsitting by anyone else but the owner?
oh wait, nvm
there are two separate sitting toggles and only one of them has the owner check
golden gust
that setSitting call there just kinda seems bogus to me
limber knotBOT
looks like it's meant to sit down the entity when you feed it or something?
golden gust
!flag
fallen marten
hey phoenix616
limber knotBOT
golden gust
Ya know what, imma just forget that exists for a while, my brain is too fizzled to care or something
billy has a patch that I was debating on pulling over, just kinda wanted to see if it was something more stupid or something
limber knotBOT
yeah, that looks like one of those "mojang forgot how their code works" bugs xD
maybe I care enough to look into that once I finished updating my server to 1.15 :S
golden gust
the only real Q behind his patch is wether or not it should be normal for any player to feed another players entities
that debates on if his patch is correct, or if that just needs to limit the sitting call
limber knotBOT
might be worth a config toggle tbh.
because vanilla clearly allows it
the sitting change just looks like a byproduct to me (which I tbh. don't understand why it's implemented like it is)
like why not force the entity to sit instead of toggling it when feeding?
god I really crave inline deobfuscation maps ;_;
pastel skiff
Nice plugin thnx phoneix
golden gust
looks more like they tried to clean something up and shot themselves in the foot
limber knotBOT
yeah
I wonder how easy it would be to include git commits in the tooling for each mc version diff
has that ever been considered before? xD
golden gust
Not really
Issue is down to how the whole process works
(e.g. it 100% relies upon the patch folders for that stuff)
wonder wtf that !ItemDye block is for, that just looks entirely misplaced looking at this o.O
unreal quarry
Colar color
limber knotBOT
yeah
golden gust
I mean, I wonder why tf they pulled it out of the instanceof check into the method branch
To me, looks like the proper fix in terms of everything going on there is to literally revert their changes there
golden gust
I guess it boils down to wtf did they try to do
the standard sitting call we've been relying on is further down
limber knotBOT
I wonder if they tried making all items feedable and later realised that dyeing broke
so they put that check in again
golden gust
if (!(item instanceof ItemDye)) {
boolean flag = super.a(entityhuman, enumhand);
if (!flag || this.isBaby()) {
this.goalSit.setSitting(!this.isSitting());
}
return flag;
}
is basically what's new to 1.15
unreal quarry
That flag should hold of it sat or not, from the super class. Idky they added another setSit
golden gust
maybe my brain hurts and am tryna overthink, but like, imho, their change just needs to be reverted
unreal quarry
I'll look more when I get home (I'm running off of memory here)
golden gust
that flag is if the entity was fed or not
Basically, the upstream interact call is to check if the item is food or not and if they can eat it, for aging/love
unreal quarry
Then they removed the sit code from Tameable class
There's only 3 tameable mobs (iirc) and all 3 respond to sit. So that's where the code is/was
limber knotBOT
yeah, it's now in the separate entity classes
fallen marten
phoenix616 watson updating goes good btw
limber knotBOT
glad to hear that :)
unreal quarry
I'll have to check that out soon and see why they moved the code
That kinda messed with my ridables patch, if it's really moved :3
I rebuild that entire method on some mobs lol, cause mojangs version is stupid
limber knotBOT
I hope all my patches still work, updated them all to 1.15.2 today and didn't really test anything yet ^^'
golden gust
Same here, only had 1 patch that actually failed to apply
Annoying tryna get back ontop of stuff, but, just
limber knotBOT
thank god the more complex ones are now in bukkit/paper directly
golden gust
facedesks
limber knotBOT
btw. what's the reason for the PreCreatureSpawnEvent only being called for certain spawning types? just lazyness or some actual issues with other stuff?
just noticed that I had a patch for that that slightly expands it
golden gust
You mean causes?
limber knotBOT
yeah
golden gust
The sole intent is that it fires before the entity is created
Which, is a bit of a super invasive patch
(if you wanted to go full stack with it)
limber knotBOT
hmhm
fallen marten
(phoenix) gonna hope it works for 1.16, but for 20w06a seems to work rn
golden gust
It's basically a mixture of laziness + maintenance burden
limber knotBOT
well I added it for iron golems and some more general stuff (to catch zombie pigmen in my case) https://github.com/Minebench/Origami/blob/1.15/patches/server/0019-Call-PreCreatureSpawnEvent-for-more-spawn-reasons.patch
not too sure if it's worth PRing if people seemingly don't need it xD
golden gust
I mean, that might be a worthy addition
limber knotBOT
I would have to test other spawning types I guess
golden gust
iirc, it was created before we had that registry, so, patching that was a loooot more invasive
limber knotBOT
otherwise it's still not "all causes"
golden gust
Well, not that registry, but, before they actually started using it for creating entities
limber knotBOT
oh and if anyone wonders, zero tick farms are still working in the snapshot :(
I really hoped they would've fixed their random vs real block updates
golden gust
That's pretty much a given
serene bolt
oh but it's a feature! don't you see how many server owners come in here daily wanting to turn it back on - why? I have no idea....
limber knotBOT
well, not really, they would've just moved one line to the already existing randomTick method...
for wahtever reason they are just forwarding that to the normal tick stuff and include the random tick growing in there
serene bolt
I can already hear the screams of "mojang is anti fun" from here, you broke my farm!!! worse update ever!!
limber knotBOT
xD
also whoever came up with the new tool/armor texture has nether used stone tools...
they should've just used some red material for them -.-
serene bolt
they definitely need to be fancier if it's going to replace shiny diamond, i think some gold trim could work well since it uses gold ingots to make
limber knotBOT
ok so the new nether is cool and all but I really miss it being covered in the yellow fire ;_;
serene bolt
I actually think the standard netherrack biome is too rare currently
limber knotBOT
tbh the warped forests are the only ones that seem to spawn the normal fire 🤔
or wait no, found some in a netherrack one
also for wathever reason the preformance piechart is stuck on my screen xD
but yeah, the amount of fire seems less than before: https://i.phoenix616.dev/fJg2NKg6.png
vestal jasper
Ye it does
waxen remnant
limber knotBOT
also what I don't get: why didn't they increase the nether to the full height? Oo
serene bolt
yeah have you seen the top layer of bedrock now? there's trees and stuff that grow up there lol
seems odd that the nether is locked into the legacy height limit, seems like a missed oppertunity
fallen marten
careful with the pie chart since there is a bug that it doesn't get disabled xD
pulsar wigeon
pie shart
fallen marten
my first language is not English so I can make spelling mistakes
woven otter
you should learn the meaning of that word then
unreal quarry
Is there ever a day general doesn't mention poop? Lmao
golden gust
no
void void
poopy poooopie poop
limber knotBOT
yeah I just mentioned that a couple minutes ago that it wont close ;D
fallen marten
misread lol
austere shuttle
willow nimbus
void void
wat u sposed 2 do about unknown property X for Y spam
yo what is this pie chart
im confused
how do i disable it
pulsar wigeon
did you really come to paper discord to ask about snapshot client issues
placid thicket
also thats the f3 pie chart, push f3
void void
no i just booted up minecraft for first time in while and also came here coincidentally
oh its also in the main menu i guess snapshot is glitched
placid thicket
no, its supposed to do that, push f3
void void
f3 just shows the rest of the usual f3 stuff but doesnt get rid of that pie chart
It's amazing what happens when you use google. https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Debug_screen
press shift+f3
placid thicket
is there a MCEdit like tool that works post 1.13?
void void
it's like ctrl+f isnt an amazing thing https://f.jacob.engineer/u34VeH.png
rugged turtle
placid thicket
y tho, we dont support snapshots here
void void
mining in the nether is awful lol
inb4 a thousand minecraft tutorials for how to get netherite
latent valve
1.1x when
wiz be like ugh
---> kick
so ill ask again now that its quieter
is there a MCEdit like tool that works post 1.13?
limber knotBOT
What is the new java window that's opening in front of my console?
placid thicket
launch your server with -nogui
unreal quarry
no, its been a part of vanilla for ages. md just didnt know how to make it work with 1.8+ until I fixed it
😛
placid thicket
^
beat me to it
wtf is spigot doing that would break the GUI 1.8+? im curious now
unreal quarry
changed the terminal
leaf saw the same thing when he was updating paper last time since paper changes the terminal again (gui just didnt output anything into the console)
placid thicket
ah, so the issue was making it output to the cmd AND the gui?
pulsar wigeon
.gui
limber knotBOT
The server will now show the vanilla GUI by default on supported systems. If you do not want this behavior, use the --nogui argument after -jar paperclip.jar. We are still trying to determine if this should be the default or if it should be hidden by default. Poll: https://www.strawpoll.me/19289384
unreal quarry
no, the gui didnt have any output
because the logger it was listening to wasnt active anymore due to being on a different terminal
unreal quarry
so rather than fool with it, he disabled it with 1.8's release under the guise of "performance suffers from gui, so we disabled it"
^_^
placid thicket
lel, did performance actually suffer?
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no
placid thicket
lol
acoustic pilot
Hm, would you still call something a "pool" if objects aren't being returned to it? It's... a half-pool, where it simply creates objects in the background but they aren't recycled. Is there a better term? ;P
placid thicket
cause i remember that change for performance. sometimes its just easier to make up a reason rather than give the actual one
unreal quarry
nah, md started nuking it in 1.8
static badge
I call it retarded byte :>
acoustic pilot
just like ur half brain cell
static badge
wat does something like that exist for
acoustic pilot
Some times entity construction can overwhelm the main thread, not because it's expensive but because there's just a lot going on it becomes hot code
So "entity pooling" creates the entity objects in the background and seems like polling a ConcurrentLinkedQueue is much faster than constructing a new entity
cosmic raft
hi
acoustic pilot
still, doesn't seem quite like a pool if objects aren't being recycled, was thinking maybe there's a better word or term for it
would be nice if objects were recycled, though
seems like too much work so not doing that
static badge
sounds like a big yikes if dumb plugins do dumb plugin things
acoustic pilot
yeah, shit... wasn't even thinking about plugins lol
static badge
I wish I could forget the dumb things they could do 
static badge
ugh but then I'd forget everything
limber knotBOT
I'm testing the newest paper build with plugin updates and I'm getting numerous warnings like this: "[Server thread/WARN]: [Vault] Loaded class com.earth2me.essentials.api.Economy from Essentials v2.17.1.0 which is not a depend, softdepend or loadbefore of this plugin."
static badge
spigot thing
acoustic pilot
ignore them
limber knotBOT
I don't know what to make of it.
static badge
dumb warnings by dumb md69
limber knotBOT
add it to the ignore list?
static badge
ye u can ignore it
acoustic pilot
md5 made it so Spigot spews that warning when a plugin tries to load a class from a plugin which isn't specified in its depend or softdepend list in plugin.yml
unreal quarry
honestly, that one let me know one of my plugins that depends on Dynmap wasnt actually depending on it correctly because I had it as Dynmap instead of dynmap in my softdepend lol
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fallen oracle
Smh
unreal quarry
but, overall, i think its a bad thing to have. especially since there are scenarios where it cannot be fixed, like with LuckPerms' use case
acoustic pilot
The plugin should be able to explicitly silence the message, IMO
If you opt into silencing it, then it means you're aware of it and you probably have a reason for doing so.
static badge
or ur retarded
limber knotBOT
I spawned a villager and it disappeared with a console error. It says to report it to paper. https://pastebin.com/DjjEJf2d
Still testing the latest build.
pulsar wigeon
timings stack issue is irrelevant here
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Missing trade for villager type: minecraft:plains
your villager is invalid for whatever reason
does /summon work?
or better yet, /minecraft:summon
limber knotBOT
minecraft:summon did the same
pulsar wigeon
test without plugins i guess
limber knotBOT
and villager egg too
pulsar wigeon
dunno, MC doesn't like your villager for whatever reason
i have no clue what the biome has to do with this
are trades biome specific?
unreal quarry
yes
pulsar wigeon
well that might be why ¯_(ツ)_/¯
unreal quarry
trades and profession and skin are biome specific to where they were "born"
pulsar wigeon
til
knew about the profession stuff but since my WE/WG test world is usually a flatworld it's always plains :P
unreal quarry
i only know because my wife hauled villagers from every biome into the same village, just for the skins lol
void void
What is a good maintained hologram plugin?
livid trail
limber knotBOT
not happening without plugins
any clue in that error what plugin might be causing this?
pulsar wigeon
time to binary search
void void
steady sage
b
hard kernel
void void
directly pinging people is not a very smart thing to do.
void void
kashike: [Auto] We're not known as Paperspigot.
limber knotBOT
@void void [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
stray nebula
Anyone have thoughts on whether AFK farms should be allowed or disabled? On an economy server specifically
void void
i dont allow them, i think they're lazy as fuck
i also dont let people make mechanical autoclickers
(physically modify their mouse)
they love to argue about how it's ok
i just ban them if they do it
and i kick after 10 mins afk
tame pendant
I allow them on my server (both autoclickers and afk farms and afk fishing)
I feel it's easier just to not regulate it
bitter remnant
I haven't been keeping up here, is 1.15.2 actually better for performance than 1.14.4 or is mojang lying again
void void
"im rich because i did nothing but let me game play itself by AFKing"
"i beat you all lul"
tame pendant
Well if they can make it while afk, there's probably huge supply so it's not worth much anyway. Assuming theres no server shop
acoustic pilot
easy to bot, but if the economy is player driven then it probably won't negatively impact the economy much
bright walrus
stray nebula
It's probably not a huge difference @bitter remnant
acoustic pilot
it's big enough that you should update
stray nebula
1.14 paper is no longer supported, which is the main thing that motivated me to update
But to my understanding, it isn't very different when it comes to performance
acoustic pilot
it's still shit compared to 1.13 (which is also shit compared to 1.12) but to quantify it, it's probably anywhere between 10-20% better so depending who you ask it's a big enough difference
better relative to 1.15
1.14, i mean
bitter remnant
Alrighty, thank you. I was planning to update soon, just wondering if it's worth it to push up my timeline or not. Thanks!
void void
seeing as 1.14.x is now unsupported i would say make it a priority
bitter remnant
So many priorities 😭 lol
=> 
cosmic raft
nothing new there
void void
its new to my repertoire
shell vine
im waiting for those performance pr's to go through
limber knotBOT
I just disable ticking for some entities and performance is very good 😂
acoustic pilot
disabling player ticking fixed all my chunk issues!
vestal jasper
disabling world ticking fixed almost all of my issues in general!
left swift
I turned my server off and all the lag disappeared! Thank you papermc.io!
vestal jasper
I threw my computer out the top window of a 20 story building and it's never been faster!
warm owl
but did it eventually crash? 😂
vestal jasper
mfw
cedar spade
bonk
vestal jasper
boop
void void
cosmic raft
@void void
limber knotBOT
.spacex
(FatherWh0) A SpaceX Falcon 9 is scheduled to launch from CCAFS SLC 40 in 9 days 7 hours 25 minutes
void void
@cosmic raft thanks baby
vestal jasper
I'm getting the feeling that the server tracks the number of arrows in an entity but not any info relevant to where on the entity
ok turns out the arrows rendered stuck in players are randomly placed
vestal jasper
ye
This sounds big brain and retarded at the same time
I wonder if an arrow hitting an entity triggers CollideEntityEvent.Impact on sponge.
mfw it does, nice
paper hound
void void
has armor durability always been so random?
one piece of like 10% remaining other is like 55% 🤔
limber knotBOT
and what's the absolute numbers?
KennyTV: 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42
thank you, kash 😂
void void
hmm really cant decide if i should get this hotel room reservation or not
limber knotBOT
yes, definitely
topaz mortar
entity metadata has just an int with how many arrows are stuck
@MiniDigger#0000 sending Integer.MAX_VALUE and checking if other clients getting FPS drops. Hopefully the client not rendering them as single entities.
valid bane
void void
its good because it's at station 2 boracay which i where most of the stuff is at, nightlife wise etc
but i cant find any vids of vloggers visiting it, i guess
some
very short ones
which seem to be ads tho
limber knotBOT
lol
limber knotBOT
KennyTV: got the reference?
no I was... lost :p
man why is red bull so expensive
limber knotBOT
nah I really need some caffeine and I can't go back to drinking 4 liters of coke aday
void void
you dont need caffeine
limber knotBOT
so I drink 1 small can of red bull
void void
ur addicted
limber knotBOT
void void
stop
limber knotBOT
I make very, very expensive mistakes
void void
W A T E R
void void
i replaced coffee with water, i was drinking 4+ cups a day.
and im fine
u can 2
or maybe you just have low willpower
unlike me
a god
vestal jasper
TIL eye position is just the livingentity's Y + eyeHeight
heady spear
that's so gay
heady spear
I brew my coffee with blood u moron
void void
wow
heady spear
the only thing I eat raw is pussy bcuz I'm not a gay boy like u
void void
oh yeah city, you like spreading busy right? its so much more beautiful than a dick right?
you love it
limber knotBOT
need to get this gem out again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIfcKy-VcXo
(KennyTV) Harry Roy & His Orchestra "My Girl's Pussy" (1931) - length 3m 16s - 10,219 likes, 185 dislikes (98.2%) - 1,204,212 views - heavymetalprophecy on 2008.09.10
he really loves the cat
heady spear
I like girls because I'm a lesbian and ur a homosapiensexual which is super gross ew pray the gay away
Anyway so I didn't go to my lecture and that was the best decision ever because I could watch Riverdale and get terribly disappointed
That series is so bad and I love it
void void
i think i watched exactly 1 ep of that and i stopped after the dude corrected the teacher because hes some ancient vampire or something?
or is that the wrong show
twilight but more teenagers
and one exceptionally older dude, that does not belong in highschool but nobody seems to notice
heady spear
idk what you've been watching but that ain't it
that sounds like the vampire diaries
which tbf is super good
heady spear
it kinda got bad when the main character entered a coma and everyone died and the ancient witch dudes came back and it was a mess
the first seasons were dope tho
void void
lmao
heady spear
oh and the other good character died like 3 times and then they finally decided to get rid of her
heady spear
Teen Wolf was awful and I bloody loved it lmao
heady spear
I mean it wasn't super bad in the beginning but it got sooooo bad towards the end
limber knotBOT
hoglin hitbox is 10/10 https://i.imgur.com/8zKKIyZ.png
I drink over 4 liters of water a day
and I drink 250ml of red bull
that's 251 too much
heady spear
I drink ~0.5l of red bull every day
and three cups of coffee
at least. If I actually need to get stuff done, it's more like 6 cups of coffee
limber knotBOT
heady spear
kinda average for a scandinavian lol
limber knotBOT
god red bull is foul
heady spear
she can't afford it
latent valve
sugar free. add other additive that make it taste sweet. make no sense
heady spear
yes it does? less calories = less obese = more happy
limber knotBOT
wtf do you mean no sense
sweeteners have no calories
sweeteners don't cause diabetes
his point is that it's still an evil I guess
a lesser one, but still an evil
yeah well he's retarded
heady spear
I don't drink my calories because I'm not a dumdum
limber knotBOT
yeah I too take my calories in pure form
latent valve
it like those vegi meat
why tf do they add meat flavor to vegi meat which is an alternative to "meat" meat it just BRUH
limber knotBOT
because vegetarians don't dislike the taste of meat, they dislike the ethics that produce meat numbnuts
are you always this dum or is this that time of the month when you're high off crack
latent valve
meh real meat taste better
heady spear
the only meat flavour I can think of is haem, which tastes putrid
limber knotBOT
imagine thinking that vegetarians don't eat meat because they dislike the taste
heady spear
I personally hate the taste of meat tbh, but I know people that miss meat and meat substitutes are great for them
limber knotBOT
smh
heady spear
I always read smh as shm and imagine a dumb ass pendulum
wave mechanics ruined me
I have ptsd
magma, it kinda reminds me of https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/673605188149313559
but ur on irc so fuck u
granite salmon
smh my head my head