yeah basically that video
#general
limber knotBOT
tender path
left swift
limber knotBOT
left swift
Now we need a kekw chat
limber knotBOT
you just made up some random bullshit, now if you can get idiots to believe it and freak out you'll basically achieve 4chan status
left swift
left swift
Pools closed leaf
split hollow
cosmic raft
huh
new discord ui
I like everything but the emoji thing on the right when hovering
pulsar osprey
crude warren
dusk drift
cosmic raft
I like it compact
vestal jasper
Iirc someone said you can change the spacing
void void
pulsar wigeon
ah yes
more great design decisions by the discord UX team
thanks guys
literally 5 minutes of usability testing would have found these problems
this is what happens when you hire a "full stack JS dev"
limber knotBOT
Iowa is such a shitshow tonight
btw youtube has a new UI too, it has dark mode woo
limber knotBOT
Maybe I was stuck on the old version or something then
void void
Possibly
limber knotBOT
Got a message saying to switch to the new one as the old one would go away soon, now video thumbnails on my front page are huge and I have half as many
void void
This UI, yes? https://f.jacob.engineer/BiRedR.png
limber knotBOT
And videos are basically the old theater mode size but still have the up next/recommended on the right side
Yeah
Oh wait is this the polymer UI?
limber knotBOT
I turned it off because polymer uses/used an old beta of the web component standard that only Chrome supported and the polyfill was slow as shit
limber knotBOT
No no, it was slow on non-Chrome
Chrome was the only thing that supported that branch of the Web Components spec, everyone else had moved on to the final one and either never had that one or removed it
limber knotBOT
Seemed like Google was going out of their way to make YouTube slow on other browsers
void void
tbh wouldn't put it past em lmao
limber knotBOT
It's 1am EST, still no caucus results
void void
I just got a WSJ ping about it
limber knotBOT
Not that they don't have enough reported to call the race yet, there are zero results reported
limber knotBOT
Also I was possibly on CNN tonight, dude was at my caucus location and they appeared to be using it to explain how the process works
void void
"technical problems"
limber knotBOT
I know the dude was talking to Wolf Blitzer on air when he reported our results
They changed this year from phoning the results in to using an app
And there are more things to report
void void
Looks like they used an app and now the app is fuckacko and they're scrambling
limber knotBOT
It's the closest thing anywhere in the US has to ranked choice voting
void void
They're "using pictures of results" and "a paper trail" to verify the results.
WTF
LUL
limber knotBOT
I took a picture of our results just to make sure
But our guy actually went through the training so he already had the app and knew how to use it
Apparently a bunch of chucklefucks didn't download it until today and didn't learn how to use it
And possibly the later precincts overloaded the system, we wrapped up fairly quickly
Sanders had almost 2x the voters as Biden for us, they got the same number of delegates :D
To try to make it faster
He definitely didn't win Iowa
My guess is him and Warren will be close but Biden will end up with 4th
sinful iron
why do you need to check hasOwner() on skullMeta before calling setOwningPlayer()
golden gust
you don't?
sinful iron
the api says you do
golden gust
Basically, it's probably just more concerned that it's an actual player skull
void void
The docs are kinda fucky for that entire method
Sets the owner of the skull.
Plugins should check that hasOwner() returns true before calling this plugin.
"before calling this plugin."
limber knotBOT
Or it should be, it's actually not on getOwningPlayer()
sinful iron
yeah ok π thanks
I was pretty sure it returns false if I have not set an owner yet
limber knotBOT
I didn't do it https://github.com/Bukkit/Bukkit/blob/master/src/main/java/org/bukkit/inventory/meta/SkullMeta.java
void void
sinful iron
Wolverness did it
void void
although potentially he didnt even write that, looks like he just pulled it in
so could've been someone else
sinful iron
sort off
limber knotBOT
So you need the Bukkit-JavaDoc repo to find out who actually did it
sinful iron
yeah but if you pull it you own it
limber knotBOT
Because they had some weird setup there for docs
golden gust
that was before the skulltype API was added
sinful iron
if you pull it and someone else owns it that could be jail time π
void void
this d00d https://f.jacob.engineer/EY9P2j.png
limber knotBOT
Like if you setOwner (or setOwningPlayer now) on a skeleton skull I'm guessing it won't do what you want
Probably should have been different classes for players vs mobs
vestal jasper
gusty lark
arctic vine
vestal jasper
static badge
double boosting 
vestal jasper
ok boostless retard
proud lance
Boosting the discord server but not donating to paper
proud lance
But not this boost
vestal jasper
lemme find it
vestal jasper
@static badge a whopping $4 
static badge
vestal jasper
at least I'm fairly certain this is it
void void
Will not the server gui load the spigot commands or just the vanilla commands?
ima have to ask you to rephrase that question
I meant, will the server gui act the same way the vanilla server gui acts or it will load plugin messages.
paper doesn't modify the vanilla gui. im assuming you're referring to the one spigot just reenabled
that's the vanilla gui
so it will act like the vanilla gui
because...
it is the vanilla gui
tall void
oak heron
unreal sigil
quasi valley
waddafuq happened to discord's normal mode
all separators are gone https://i.imgur.com/7jj3BPn.png 
quasi valley
do they think any random change=improvement ??
void void
ye
quasi valley
holy moly
limber knotBOT
back to the safe space I guess
woven otter
oh good
limber knotBOT
simple holding strong
void void
yup
and i have been walking at least 2 miles a day
recently, it's been 3
but my goal is at least 2
limber knotBOT
.g 3 miles in kilometres
(KennyTV) https://www.calculateme.com/length/miles/to-kilometers/3 -- Convert 3 Miles to Kilometers: "How long is 3 miles? How far is 3 miles in kilometers? This simple calculator will allow you to easily convert 3 mi to km."
limber knotBOT
fuck you random site for not actually giving the number in the header >:(
void void
4.8
limber knotBOT
close to 5, nice
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Result: 4.828 km (kilometers) - https://is.gd/f5tLDa
limber knotBOT
I drive ~7.5km (4.6miles) to uni with the bike everyday, which is good, cause else I prolly wouldn't be doing any other sport :p
(DiscordBot) Result: 5.198 km (kilometers) - https://is.gd/3tMdmZ
KennyTV: >drive with the bike
"I bike ~... to uni"
:P
oh right, inglisch much hard
speaking of which, time to bike to uni to take an english exam, bai π
void void
F
I'm drinking too much water I gotta chill
But I'm thirsty
WTF
My hematocrit is low, which points to a few things which I'm almost certain I don't have
But one of the things is overhydration
(had 6 liters today)
limber knotBOT
how do you know your hematocrit is low
void void
finger prick
limber knotBOT
why are you pricking your finger
void void
i wanted to see what my ketones were
acoustic pilot
cuz he has diabeetus obv
limber knotBOT
acoustic pilot
at least you're actually doing a blood test and not a urine test for ketones lol
acoustic pilot
if the goal is to encourage higher blood ketone content, surest way to guarantee that is to simply eat less than 20g net carbs daily, no testing really required.
void void
yup i do
im 2.7 mmol ketones rn
which is p good for me
GKI is 1.6
and i know, like i said i dont test often. sometimes i just be like "hmm lets see"
i dont do it religiously or anything
acoustic pilot
2.7 is pretty good, definitely higher than average
clinical, nutritional ketosis is like 0.8 or above
void void
yea
im following a strict plan right now, just a 21 day keto sprint. then im switching to carbs for 21 days
then, maybe keto again. maybe something else
we'll see
acoustic pilot
that's not gonna work
wouldn't advice that
it's called yoyo dieting and it always fails
and messes up your body
void void
either that, or ill restart the keto sprint after it ends Β―_(γ)_/Β―
just using an app
arctic vine
I did Keto for about 6 months before Christmas, it felt pretty good
acoustic pilot
either stick to glycolysis or ketosis, dont jump back and forth between both in such short timespans.
arctic vine
the subreddit always has posts about people pooping themselves though
acoustic pilot
"cheating" once in a while is fine and all just don't wanna sustain different metabolic states for 20 days at a time and yo-yo between them, can have adverse effects
void void
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
acoustic pilot
and 21 days probably isn't enough for your body to become fat adapted either
defeating the purpose of achieving nutritional ketosis on the first place π
acoustic pilot
can take up to 2 months to get fat adapted
void void
not a huge deal
acoustic pilot
just gotta be aware of that and give it a fair shot before deciding it doesn't work or isn't worth it π
void void
yea i've been on keto for a good 5 months before, then i stopped, then i did it again for like 7 months, then i stopped. this will be the 3rd or 4th go round
and indeed it did work
i stopped for silly reasons like it was a party and i realllllly wanted that cake
acoustic pilot
sugar is a damn addictive drug
takes months for some people on keto to get past the sugar cravings
and so easy to fall back into old habits π
void void
yea
once i had the cake, then i was like "well....this pastry can't hurt..."
then it was "a bowl of cereal is ok...."
then
"ima have a glass of milk"
then suddenly, i wasn't in ketosis anymore
;)
acoustic pilot
if you're adapted you get right back into it within a day or two any way
void void
yup this is my 4th day of the diet plan and im 2.7
acoustic pilot
infants enter ketosis within 1 hour, pretty crazy. it's actually harder to keep infants OUT of ketosis short of feeding them all day at 30 minute intervals lol
void void
acoustic pilot
was doing keto for a few months but as of october im mostly carnivore (keto carnivore, so no milk) now
acoustic pilot
i like veggies because i like the food variety, but im finding it hard to support the idea that they're necessary for health.
at first it seemed crazy, a diet that excludes the plant kingdom... but the more i dug into it, my skepticism started to fade
void void
eh, even if they're not necessary, i like the taste it can add to my dishes
that's my main reason really, i play a lot with different veggies in my dishes now
acoustic pilot
yeah, that's pretty much where im at with them. it's more of a case of if they aren't necessary for health, then can they actually be unhealthy? and there's some evidence to support that
void void
acoustic pilot
nutritional epidemiology is pretty much a pseudo science though, because of the constraints it has to operate within and also because of its vulnerability to industry funding, which makes food studies in general highly unreliable.
void void
may do some reading
rn am watching a really dum netflix show but it keeps ending on cliffhangers
so
you best know im binging it
acoustic pilot
speaking of binging on netflix... which to binge first, sabrina season 3 or diablero season 2
heady spear
Sabrina season 3 was wild
cosmic raft
@acoustic pilot sabrina
void void
shell vine
void void
wow im disappointed
series ended on a fucking CLIFFHANGER
AND THEY ARENT EVEN GUARANTEED RENEWED
shell vine
what show
void void
ragnarok
its pretty stupid
but im easily hooked
basically family moves to little town
||turns out one of the boys is a norse god (thor lol)||
||and the ppl that run the town are jΓΆtunn (giants)||
cosmic raft
LSL is interesting with substring
void void
and uhh yea
cosmic raft
llGetSubString(message, 6, -8)
void void
thats it
||they fight, thor kills the hell hound, and it ends on a cliffhanger with him KOing the jotunn leader dude||
and now am waiting for season 2
void void
hey i know people ask about hosts all the time and i know the general opinion is that shared hosting isn't as good but honestly it fits my needs because it's simple and cheap. I just want to ask what is everyones opinion on ExtraVM for shared hosting?
shell vine
hmm that looked kinda boring, is it worth it
soft plover
untold holly
limpid pumice
granite salmon
WELCOME ALL
quasi valley
Sam wants to eat you - run
latent valve
latent valve
Duck just doesnt wanna accept the truth
limber knotBOT
fml why is everything going wrong
cause ur a dum dum
obviously
oh no
how could this happen to meeeeeeeeee
I'VE MADE A MISTAAAAKE
alright that's not even the right lyrics
man I'm feeling worn out
is this what cat's poophole feels like 24/7? I don't know how he manages
golden gust
yes
limber knotBOT
ur a poophole saint cat
I just want you to know that my respect for you has grown immeasurably
latent valve
Kenny even cat are upside down
woven otter
vestal jasper
He rolls around like a dog sometimes
pastel skiff
Any tips for speeding server up a player issued /wild a couple times and the thread dump was made
golden gust
use a better /wild plugin
limber knotBOT
ur mum is /wild
vestal jasper
Use a quantum computer
pastel skiff
RTP breaks and /wild is only one I seen working wgat u reccomend
Also this guy was hacking tho tbh syas he moved too quick lol
golden gust
there is like 20 dozen /wild plugins
pastel skiff
Okay
vestal jasper
I could sneeze, have my hand press the W key, and manage to move too quick
Vanilla's sanity checks are dum
wide chasm
latent valve
wide chasm
But most of the stuff is on spigotmc.org
pastel skiff
Everyone on Paper forum saying to use the plugin i'm already using lol
limber knotBOT
I actually made a really good wild plugin
and guess what
I never released it
huff my shorts world
pastel skiff
Same
golden gust
if you're actually using that one, god knows
Maybe actually provide the trace instead of leaving us pissing into the wind
limber knotBOT
hey, that at least does async chunk loading
wide chasm
Wtf is that plugin
wide chasm
I'm doing so right now
golden gust
runs
wide chasm
He definitely has an interesting approach
pastel skiff
Aug 31, 2017 ```er, wu
pastel skiff
wide chasm
Lol that review by magma
limber knotBOT
cat pls help I am getting an error I've tried nothing and I'm out of ideas what do pls
pastel skiff
Last release
pastel skiff
None for latest Paper 1.15+ lol
golden gust
You do know that plugins don't need updating for every single mc release?
That's the joys of an API
pastel skiff
Oh okay
I'll try it
I had issues when I migrated to 1.15 from 1.14 server wuldnt even start
void void
wide chasm
It's truly a masterpiece, thank you.
limber knotBOT
such is my existence, for better or for best
wide chasm
For best, for sure.
limber knotBOT
good to see those years of college paying off
wide chasm
I frequently voice my opinions about the unnecessity of the reviews section for resources on SpigotMC, however, after reading your review, I think my opinion has changed for the better; the review section is very important.
limber knotBOT
any place I frequent is made very important by association
golden gust
reviews section makes sense
wide chasm
follows Magma everywhere
golden gust
What doesn't make sense is how some of these people even function on a day to day basis
limber knotBOT
they don't need to function
they're kids
their parents function on their behalf
wide chasm
No one has to function as long as they make it seem like they function. And even then I doubt that last part is necessary.
pastel skiff
Thnx swapped my wild plugin to that one and TPS is 20 now lol
limber knotBOT
I once found a dude who'd made a rtp plugin and had it set so it would reroll coords if they were in a worldguard region
and keep rerolling as long as they were in a worldguard region
forever
wide chasm
claims entire world as region
limber knotBOT
in sync
pastel skiff
Wait nvm it didnt load the plugin
wide chasm
lol
limber knotBOT
if I optimized elitemobs the same way these devs optimized these plugins you'd somehow end up with negative tps
golden gust
Dude, just create async tasks and mek sure to use concurrent maps and syncronize all teh fings
pastel skiff
Any tutorial thats good to follow to learn to write plugins?
limber knotBOT
do you know java?
golden gust
pastel skiff
A little I made a couple games in school. I'm a network engineer so usually using Python at work
pastel skiff
Okayy
limber knotBOT
I should probably archive that website some day before it disappears
heady spear
programming is evil
the devil invented programming
bible studies π βοΈ πΌ
programmig π πΏ β οΈ
void void
no u
limber knotBOT
lol
formal venture
unreal quarry
Fun fact: There exists an online course to teach you coding skills by rewarding you with naked chicks. Not even lying.
woven otter
I'm curious 
woven otter
dm
limber knotBOT
at least say the name of it coward
limber knotBOT
is it codebabes
heady spear
I want a coding site where magma loses one item of clothing for each completed assignment
I'd be a 1337 developer if that were the case
limber knotBOT
I wonder if that website led people to learn languages they otherwise didn't want to learn due to the model for that language
heady spear
can u code while in mood
I'd be distracted
then end up doing other things instead. No good for productivity.
I hate wring lecture notes
this is so boring
woven otter
is your lecturer hot
heady spear
also the pacing is so slow wtf apparently this dude is gonna spend 2 hours explaining how to solve a nonhomogeneous matrix equation
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qCRJF1uhdXZUFhe5r0E3-XFU-je1ypnx/view?usp=sharing
this requires 2h of teaching apparently
limber knotBOT
give me 6 hours and let me see if I understand it weeb
unreal quarry
To some 2h isn't enough lol
heady spear
he has already gone through all of this, now he's just formalizing it and then no one understands anything anymore
I mean I get that, I just wanna speedrun all courses and graduate in a week
heady spear
lol I did. English is hard my dude
limber knotBOT
fuckin' weeb
let be a solution
you feel like you are missing something there bud?
heady spear
I forgot a vector lmao
limber knotBOT
no shit
heady spear
dude I'm not the one that has to read this
some poor first year people will have to suffer, not me
limber knotBOT
your face must be non-homogeneous
heady spear
also is parametrically a word
because I want it to be
but my spell check disagrees
loool I forgot to enter math mode when adding the vectors so they just didn't render
well
wide chasm
Just create the word if it doesn't exist; force people to adapt
left swift
Skip every other word and make people guess to fill in the blanks
left swift
Make them mad libs the notes lol
heady spear
he spacing is so bloody inconsistent
the***
also gather is fugly, but display mode doesn't allow you to break lines
hollow dust
Hello any good money withdraw and xp bottling plugins for 1.15?
onyx salmon
limber knotBOT
wat
I hope it didn't cost more than a buck, lol
kotlin isn't worth shit
runs
can't even emote
topaz mortar
This book is outdated, already.
limber knotBOT
typical dumcord pleb
why would you buy a 30β¬ book about.. kotlin oO
collection of useless things?
topaz mortar
https://github.com/cjnhust/ebook_collection/blob/master/Kotlin in Action.pdf
Github is my collection of books. π
limber knotBOT
learn one language properly instead of jumping between 4 π
Wut
tf would you
What you tryna do, get shit done?
Gotta learn all the langs to impress management
ai know all se languages!
(I cant do anything with them, but I know them!)
"oh, of course I've written stuff in Chef!"
if you are "curious", why go as far as spending 30 bucks on a book :aaa:
olive garden
have you even read Effective Java yet?
wide chasm
Pro tip: copy paste code from one language you know into another and just fix the syntax errors and you now know every language /s
fallen oracle
Why does that image portray me so perfectly
topaz mortar
Stevanschie just run.
limber knotBOT
that's basically what I do when I have to write C#
just use java syntax and fix until it works
wide chasm
Ah, I'm not the only one then π
limber knotBOT
I mean i got it working somehow: https://github.com/Phoenix616/TFT-Overlay/commit/5b82cb5a3d01670db722af1b8b0d5d9bad027e35 xD
topaz mortar
Wow.
fallen oracle
Why would anyone want to use anything above Java 8?
fallen oracle
BecAuSe thAtS whAt aLl tHe SerVerS uSe
limber knotBOT
not using Java 1 to use the language as designed
yes it's very fun seeing that you can't compile bungee with the lastest maven version lmao
topaz mortar
I recommend that https://github.com/Eugen123/Books/blob/master/Clean Code.pdf
limber knotBOT
Correction, <KennyTV> yes it's very fun seeing that you can't compile bungee with the latest maven version lmao
s/lastest/latest
safe mason
i know this question may sound dumb but i have never done something like this before
how can i take the source from github and edit it with intellij?
golden gust
follow the readme to build the project, then open it like any other maven project
safe mason
thank you cat
topaz mortar
@quasi valley You can compile bungee with latest version. After MD was forced to use java 8 in 1.15.2
limber knotBOT
ohh what a madlad
wide chasm
I personally prefer Java 4, generic type safety is for bad coders only
limber knotBOT
if you don't write bytecode directly then why even bother?
you don't hardwire your shit? nab
wide chasm
I don't program: I simulate the universe with my own laws, which I have calculated to result in what I want to happen. The simulation is done with rocks and air.
mighty echo
PSA: don't use ProtocolLib unless you like thread unsafety
we had to get rid of all packet listeners that use ProtocolLib, as the handlers they inject are severely thread-unsafe and caused some really hard to debug issues
limber knotBOT
packets don't arrive on the main thread, who'dve guessed π
mighty echo
lol that's not what I'm talking about
merely registering a packet listener (with no code in the handler functions) makes the order in which packets are handled undeterministic, which sometimes broke the login sequence that requires packets to be sent in a specific order
topaz mortar
Everyone. π If you want use the data of the packets to interact with the Bukkit-API just synchronise the call yourself.
mighty echo
I'm not a noob :D
fallen oracle
I don't fuck with packets if I don't have to
golden gust
never heard of that one π€·ββοΈ
limber knotBOT
I fuck a lot with packets
mighty echo
me too. what lib do you use?
fallen oracle
I like the BukkitAPI
topaz mortar
Marius you state that listeners aren't called in the sequence they were added?
limber knotBOT
a dark place called Via :aaa:
.. but for normal plugins, ProtocolLib, never had any issues with that
mighty echo
this is the specific issue we ran into as well
or rather the manifestation of the issue
golden gust
oh, 0 length
mighty echo
our setup is a bungee/waterfall with multiple servers connected to it, and the mere existence of protocollib packet listeners caused server switch to fail sometimes because the packets of the login sequence arrived out of order
golden gust
See, I've always wondered how tf they managed to that that
mighty echo
oh, we dug deep into ProtocolLib to figure out how they managed to do that
the answer is thread unsafety
fallen oracle
Looks about a year old. Doesn't sound like it'll be fixed.
mighty echo
to fix this, you'd need to rewrite the entire injector code
cause this doesn't even attempt to do thread-safety https://github.com/dmulloy2/ProtocolLib/blob/master/src/main/java/com/comphenix/protocol/injector/netty/InjectionFactory.java
the existence of this class is another big WTF https://github.com/dmulloy2/ProtocolLib/blob/master/src/main/java/com/comphenix/protocol/CleanupStaticMembers.java
solar rock
mighty echo
so just take my word for it, we sunk countless of hours into debugging that specific issue, and merely replacing protocollib's packet handlers with our own fixed the server switching issue we had.
or do whatever you want to do, this is just my tip :D
fallen oracle
It's crazy to think all those issues just from that
mighty echo
PR never, the lib is fundamentally design flawed
limber knotBOT
I doubt teh APi design is flawed
mighty echo
we just ended up injecting our own handler into netty
limber knotBOT
I mean unless you're a somewhat professional server with people that actually know something about coding and netty, you'll likely break more by doing your own hack :p
but if you do, that seems alright
mighty echo
you heard of MCC?
limber knotBOT
not that I know of
limber knotBOT
gotta love non-loading websites
yea I didn't imply you don't know, just that most people don't :p
god, it's freaking squarespace
mighty echo
Johni and I are not new to networking, we developed the ReplayMod together which does EVERYTHING via packet handling :D
limber knotBOT
speaking of which I need to make a website
what's the easiest way of making one nowadays
mighty echo
I recommend Jekyll https://jekyllrb.com/
upper flicker
forgot your blink tag
left swift
Make a hyperlink that just brings you to a new page that is exactly the same as your homepage but 2px lower than before
Then keep going and going
limber knotBOT
make a blank page - simplistic design with no flaws
left swift
As it slowly lowers it will reveal the almighty dickbutt
fallen oracle
ReplayMod sounds familiar
limber knotBOT
on a scale from 1-10 how bad is squarespace
1, it doesn't load at all without javascript
runs
limber knotBOT
I guess
why the tits are you blocking JS in anno domini 2020 phoenix616
because I don't like websites executing random code in my CPU with full rights, lol
fallen oracle
Just use Weebly
mighty echo
tbh I'm not a fan of just hating on solutions like squarespace, they offer a trade-off between simplicity to set up and elegance for someone like us (a programmer)
I see nothing wrong with using it
limber knotBOT
I need a website for my business and honestly it just needs to look pretty, the only people who are likely to visit it are our translators
I doubt some translators will evaluate your site based on if it is a template site or similar
so should be alright :p
oh they absolutely will
just use wordpress with a fancy theme then
that's the plan
well
if you just google "site template" and pick the thirds one, sure
any pretty template will do the trick
it just needs to look corporate
grav is pretty cool too if you want to play with a different CMS
unreal quarry
mfw discord finally adds a horizontal scrollbar to code blocks, but still wraps the code at the visual edge https://i.imgur.com/S5ABUkS.png https://i.imgur.com/axrqXCL.png
fallen oracle
WordPress can be pretty nice and useful.
limber knotBOT
can't disord get anything right
holy butts
you're just not ready for the 4d chess that the discord dev team is doing
and tbf discord does plenty right
remember having to use skype in its stead?
I 'member
or god forbid messenger
or shudders irc
alright, turning down the exaggeration, it still messes *something *up with every minor update π
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Nothing was wrong with aol email
limber knotBOT
well as long as it's two steps forward one step back it's still a net gain of 1 step
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paper will use an aol mailing list
pulsar wigeon
sk used to have a google groups thing
there's some great relics of ideas for WE/WG there still
limber knotBOT
I'll never forgive skype for trying to sell me tampons for 6 months because that's the only business that bought ad space from skype in portugal
I like the update
limber knotBOT
.lart <^-^
(KennyTV) I can't attack that.
β 12 Years a Rekt
.lart ^-^
I really like the new last message seen highlighter
(KennyTV) I can't attack that.
AOIFJIOS
twin lagoon
the new update is quite nice once you get used to it
used to dislike it but after an hour it's fine
limber knotBOT
I still don't like it =^]
especially on bigger screens
I'm not a huge fan of people putting in reaction all the time but that's more of an issue I have with people than with discord
people suck and keep making the world a worse place to live in
twin lagoon
i hardly see reactions even being used
limber knotBOT
it's alright on mobile and on my smaller laptop, but uh
unreal quarry
only thing i'm not liking is the hover emotes thing
limber knotBOT
you must be living in a bubble micheal
unreal quarry
like, can we not
twin lagoon
i'm in quite a lot of discord servers
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Riot games and LoL are talking about adding a kernel driver for anticheat wtf
twin lagoon
just don't see them being used a lot in discussions
yay for more intrusive anticheats
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Wait what
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crosses off all of their shit
limber knotBOT
even on discord servers with next to no day-to-day activity I can't do an announcement without people spamming meme shit in emotes
twin lagoon
oh yeah excluding announcements
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Cheating in league?
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fuck if I know
limber knotBOT
RIP WINE
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Ah yes
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that'll stop all the cheaters
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Watch it get bypassed in a month
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Like all anticheats
twin lagoon
It will be significantly harder to create undetected cheats: protecting you from aimbots, protecting us from Reddit, and protecting cheaters from themselves.
unreal quarry
you can disable emotes on a per channel basis, magma π
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I'm at ring-1
twin lagoon
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It's nice down here
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inb4 there's some overflow in their shitty driver and it takes down the whole system
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fallen oracle
I've never seen a cheater in league before
limber knotBOT
that's the point glare
pulsar wigeon
imagine caring about legue
limber knotBOT
they're not exactly advertising themselves
pulsar wigeon
gonna leave that typo there
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does riot do anything other than league?
pulsar wigeon
they are now
limber knotBOT
imagine league being a multibillion dollar franchise whose parent company keeps buying other gaming businesses
fallen oracle
Yeah they have a new hartstone type game
limber knotBOT
you might start caring then
pulsar wigeon
they have some shooter thing in the pipeline too apparently
limber knotBOT
they have announced several new games and will eventually do an MMORPG
they are also buying gaming studios in bulk
pulsar wigeon
they made a load of announcements for the 10th anniversary thing
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well they pretty much guaranteed Im never playing any of their games
limber knotBOT
gotta love dat sweet sweet china money
limber knotBOT
hey do you know what tencent owns?
fallen oracle
What, you don't want to play BANG BANG Mobile MOBA?
fallen oracle
Does tencent own League?
limber knotBOT
yes
pulsar wigeon
tencent owns riot
fallen oracle
Ahh
pulsar wigeon
limber knotBOT
it owns path of exile, riot games, supercell (clash of clans), epic games (40% stake), miniclip and then a bunch of smaller stakes in other businesses
can't wait to see discord merge with the epic games store Kappa
wikipedia says it's the largest video game company in the world
thanks for telling us what's in wiz's screenshot
fallen oracle
Damn they own Angry Birds
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Not angry birds :(
limber knotBOT
was already typing it and I don't get previews on irc phoenix616 you dumdum
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Mfw using irc in 2020
limber knotBOT
I don't either, I just click faster :P
technically speaking my cousing works for tencent
because he works for miniclip
cousin*
peak dirge
I think I might just invent a System Management Mode backdoor for League of Legends cheating then... π€
limber knotBOT
tbf it's all drops in the bucket compared to their ownership of wechat
peak dirge
One-up Riot with a ring -2 kit
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apparently there's already an aimbot for overwatch that runs at the hypervisor
limber knotBOT
that shit must make them all the money in the world
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Overwatch cheats kek
pulsar wigeon
imagine caring so much about vidya gaems
fallen oracle
Ikr
limber knotBOT
isn't wechat that chinese surveillance network? xD
upper flicker
pretty sure for most aimbots your trying to detect robotic movements anyway, not some other process running
so idk what that really gets you
pulsar wigeon
do you even get anything besides epeen points
limber knotBOT
I doubt that the people making cheat engines do it because they care about doing well in the game
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Although there are more ow cheats 
fallen oracle
Just put your cat on the keyboard
pulsar wigeon
i mean, it's not like you're gonna be a pro
limber knotBOT
hell I know a few people who do it for runescape and they 100% do it for fun or for profit
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cheaters
pulsar wigeon
cuz you know, can't exactly use cheats on the pro scene
profit i can see
like goldselling in RS or w/e
limber knotBOT
uh, most anti cheats try to detect and classify running processes Z, the actual ingame detection is probably only a miniscule part of the codebase
yeah
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And z aimbots are beyond robot movements at this point
pulsar wigeon
but...you can't do that in competitive games right?
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no shit sherlock
but Im saying there's already plenty of ways to evade that in regards to aimbots
not specifically the entire suite of anticheat
limber knotBOT
I've considered doing some myself just for fun but I don't have that type of time
So what should they do?
Give up?
fallen oracle
No you can't. At least in the pro scene.
limber knotBOT
how about designing game modes where you can't cheat? ;D
fallen oracle
Because the tournaments are ran on LAN and you only ever touch the computer to play the game.
limber knotBOT
You can always cheat
interesting argument z750, here's a counter-argument though: get fucked son
pulsar wigeon
yea we have enough chinese spyware drivers in our kernels from our hardware already :^)
limber knotBOT
go is freaking hard, Mini
this message brought to you by the makers of anticheats
It's also extremely simple compared to videogames
but Rocket League (RIP) is pretty hard to cheat too
limber knotBOT
they should just ask the NSA if you are cheating
fallen oracle
I know League already scans your PC
limber knotBOT
the NSA probably already knows whether you are or not
fallen oracle
If you're in a game and you Google "cheat engine", the league client will close.
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NSA gay
olive garden
how can you even cheat in LoL? is the client authoritative or what?
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Is that true glare
limber knotBOT
damn glare now I really want to test that but it'd imply me installing league
Evade skills and stuff
fallen oracle
Yeah I saw a video on it and tested it myself about a year ago.
limber knotBOT
Predict enemy movement
yeah evade skill cheats would be massive in the game tbf
League skills are very sophisticated
fallen oracle
Idek how you would cheat in League
limber knotBOT
Cheat*
if you can react in superhuman speeds you could absolutely dominate
Those cheats exist
League also fights bots
pulsar wigeon
also shit like map hacks
limber knotBOT
aimbots are also pretty helpful
olive garden
makes sense
fallen oracle
I've never seen a league bot before, then again, I've never tried to find one.
waxen lava
limber knotBOT
Then there are cheats to visualize enemy ranges
would you even know if you saw one though
pulsar wigeon
like, pretty small things are enough to get a big advantage
limber knotBOT
inb4 someone links one and Tencent bans the discord guild Kappa
Auto timers for enemy abilities
Etc
fallen oracle
You can already see enemy ranges in lots of instances
pulsar wigeon
wut?
fallen oracle
And if you play enough, it's really easy to learn the times and everything
limber knotBOT
Or you could just cheat
fallen oracle
I understand what you're saying
pulsar wigeon
^
why are you ignoring the point then
i don't understand what you're trying to get at
olive garden
in World of Tanks it was common to use custom textures that show the weakpoints
cheats replace the need to memorize stuff
not saying it is good or bad, just saying
this LoL ability range visualization seems like something similar
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Cheating bad
void void
pulsar wigeon
z bad
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wiz very bad
pulsar wigeon
honestly what the fuck is this error
i'm trying to debug a stacktrace that i can't reproduce and that looks completely impossible in the code
limber knotBOT
in your version of the code ;)
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have you tried asking the stacktrace nicely
pulsar wigeon
i have version numbers and shit like, it's from my automated reporting
it's anonymized tho so idk who had the error
and they haven't emailed me asking for help or anything
limber knotBOT
somebody PMd me asking for the best obfuscator. me, the guy who has "obfuscation bad" in this signature
pulsar wigeon
that sounds intentional mini
limber knotBOT
I then do the obfuscation is bad, open source your stuff talk
he eats it and then replies with this (translated) "Okay, I ask I'm relatively good at coding (without sounding off-hook) but sometimes I need help with small things, do you have Discord or something where I can ask if I have problems?"
pulsar wigeon
lmfao
limber knotBOT
did he accept my superiority or what?
it's a trap
I have a bunch of people like that in my discord
run while you can
still wondering why I never accept friend requests? :P
?discord
you'd accept mine thought right?
whats the invite?
void void
papermc is the invite
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all support requests should be sent via PM directly to wiz
limber knotBOT
don't forget to ping him, even tho you're pming him
limber knotBOT
that's big brain annoyance
oh yeah, pinging in Pms, thats good
I already send him the invite tho and asked him to talk to magma
pulsar wigeon
tho i have friend requests set at "friends of friends" atm
i am considering downgrading that
since kashike is apparently friends with everyone
limber knotBOT
π
pulsar wigeon
and some fuccbois have taken that as an invitation to friend request me
limber knotBOT
who doesnt want to be friends with kash tho?
kashike one day just pinged me to ask that I should accept
then didn't even write anything
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quick everyone send him friendreq
pulsar wigeon
vernal moth
pulsar wigeon
honestly that mutual friends thing is bad
wish i could turn it off
people shouldn't be able to see who i have friended or not
pulsar wigeon
actually can soemone check again
limber knotBOT
I just ignore any incoming request, and wiz' them after the second request
mossy vessel
You are the first person I've seen so far having mutual friends with wiz lol
pulsar wigeon
if they see me in mutual friends
i mean, it's kash
as mentioned, he is friends with everyone
just like he's part of every project ever
he just likes sticking his fingers everywhere if you know what i mean
golden gust
Ye, he gets around he does
pulsar wigeon
hm, i found a duplicate issue with this stacktrace from 10 months ago
where i write some analysis i apparently did
but i have no clue how i came to those conclusions now
10 month ago me saw something that i don't see now
golden gust
induced debuggery skills from head + desk motion?
limber knotBOT
When I wrote this, only God and I understood what I was doing. Now, God only knows.
pulsar wigeon
looks like 10 month ago me might have been wrong anyway
either that or something else changed in between
stray nebula
I hate how spigotmc deletes any plugins that require Paper.
limber knotBOT
I mean, it's Spigot's forum
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It makes sense
limber knotBOT
imagine taco plugins or random forks on the paper forums
imagine imagining
:retarded_reaction:
so meta
now imagine imagining recursively
unreal quarry
imagineception
void void
Is there a good plugin for hiding your plugins+ /tab for 1.8 ?
limber knotBOT
why would you want to hide plugins?
void void
Because I don't my players to see my plugins π ?
limber knotBOT
because oc donut steele servers
void void
@still smelt that will disable /tab for nicknames
I want to disable it only for commands + /pl
golden gust
Just literally don't give them the permission to the command, then they won't see it
limber knotBOT
just keep your plugins updated if you are scared of exploits
golden gust
bukkit has a bug with namespaced commands iirc, but you can disable those in spigot.yml
void void
so -1 on spigot.yml + disable the perms ?
void void
soo what should I do ... ?
golden gust
Oh, basically, for 1.8 you're on your own
pulsar wigeon
they're worried about people finding out their plugins but they're on 1.8
golden gust
But, basically, exact same thing applies
golden gust
If your plugins are made by competant devs and they don't have the perms to use the commands, they won't see them
if they do, you have stupid plugins
ez
void void
ahh nvm I will search by my own π
pulsar wigeon
you have some shit plugins at the end there mini
limber knotBOT
that count is still way too high, I want to get rid of armor stand tools and commandnpc, deluxejoin is already not needed
see, I have been thinking of replacing wolrdguard, since we only use it for entering and leaving regions
golden gust
I mean, that literally goes back to the competent devs message
If they know wtf they're doing and define their commands properly, you won't see them in tab
limber knotBOT
but then I would need to do region calcs myself
golden gust
If not, there are plugins which will let you hide stuff, but like π€·ββοΈ
limber knotBOT
and I already struggled to find random points in a poly region, how would I reimplement entering and leaving π
pulsar wigeon
all you need is player/vehicle move and teleports
limber knotBOT
yeah, I guess, we got more pressing issues
I just yesterday removed multiverse
but its on my list, since we use 3 plugins for that "minimalistic" feature
not sure why we have vault
weird, it says on the list that you have elitemobs installed 3 times
pulsar wigeon
trimming down WG would actually be really easy
limber knotBOT
that's illegal
not sure what the implications of forking/ripping out stuff of a gpl plugin for us are tho
golden gust
should relicence to agpl
limber knotBOT
hey wiz out of curiosity what kind of license does your SSN have?
if I where to modify it, I would rip the region stuff out and integrate it into our framework
pulsar wigeon
it has a license to delete ugly bearded individuals
limber knotBOT
since we have stuff to persist the data in our db and stuff
pulsar wigeon
that's a lot of work tho :P
limber knotBOT
that doesn't sound right wiz
pulsar wigeon
but if you really just need fast region lookups you can just use the prtree lib we use
golden gust
watches as dyescape starts on their own regions plugin instead of releasing
pulsar wigeon
had one or two people doing that already
limber knotBOT
yeah, but the current process to register regions isnt ideal right now, since regions are defined multiple times
pulsar wigeon
people should really do it more
limber knotBOT
limber knotBOT
thanks, gonna keep that in mind
golden gust
for (MahRegionObject daRegion : getDahRegions()) { if (loc.x.......
limber knotBOT
see, thats why we use WG right now
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getDahRegions().stream()
limber knotBOT
but if we can instead use the backend of WG, thats nice
green turret
"PRTree is written to be fast and use as little memory aspossible." it's so dedicated to reducing space consumption, even the readme is reduced.
pulsar wigeon
hm?
green turret
A space is missing between "as" and "possible". I'm just being a twerp.
green turret
:D
MobArena (in)effectively uses loops over all regions for certain events. But the entire event handling logic is so full of spaghetti. For most events it just passes the event to each arena one by one instead of looking up the relevant arena(s) first and then handling the event. But the majority of servers seem to only have one or two arenas, and each arena has at most two regions, so it's probably not a real performance bottleneck yet.
Or maybe it is, and that's why everyone only has one or two arenas xD
limber knotBOT
I always thought WE and WG should be chopped up in to reusable components
WG (and others) already use WE as a library for the selection tools
golden gust
both WE and WG should probs just be rm -rf'd and rewritten
limber knotBOT
WG should be usable like that for the region database too so people can make their own flags/hooks
but ppl on spigot hate libs!
btw last time I looked that PRTree repo was the only implementation of that algorithm
they rather write something bad themselves than asking users to install a lib that does it properly
I'd rather write something bad myself than rely on someone keeping their own systems up-to-date and potentially forcing dependencies on servers