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austere ivy
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if you burn leaf what do you get

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yeah it is

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lul

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is it the same color though

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in hexchat

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a

austere ivy
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ash?

limber knotBOT
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yeah same colour to irc bridge

austere ivy
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sounds boring

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what a coincidence

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same colour to irc bridge

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same length

limber knotBOT
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its different here

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fuck it's slightly different

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reeeeeee

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the colour

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z your bot ruined it

merry talon
upper flicker
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I think we covered a while ago that leaf has color issues

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no I proved that to be discord

cosmic raft
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:))

upper flicker
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my one eye sees color better than your two

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fucking leafs I tell you what

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z I'm literally blind

austere ivy
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I read all messages with braille

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including the colour

austere ivy
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you know is your name Kevin

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no, it's not, dumb question nevermind.

upper flicker
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kash's name is kash

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he had it changed to match his online handle

austere ivy
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alright, some updates:

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did he

merry talon
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Kash Ike

upper flicker
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he's just that dedicated

austere ivy
cosmic raft
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i actually did change my name recently, but not to kash(ike)

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^_^

austere ivy
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tacos can be eaten

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tacos can be fed to dogs

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animal cruelty

austere ivy
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there are now leafs

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god that mod got dark quick

austere ivy
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leafs can be burned

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wtf

merry talon
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he changed it to kyori

upper flicker
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leafs need a translation key

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"Garbage"

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and do tell us genuis z boy

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god i fucking knew it

upper flicker
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lol

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u've become predictable z

upper flicker
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just as sad for you if you've spent that long in here

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such is life

cosmic raft
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@merry talon no :p

austere ivy
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right yes, how can I make the name not that?

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upper flicker
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there's a text file somewhere with the translation values

cosmic raft
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first of all

austere ivy
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This is way better than mcreator. Also leaf I'm sorry I added you being burned.

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in leafclient I would add it to vanilla's

cosmic raft
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don't call your item leaf_item

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call it leaf

merry talon
austere ivy
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I just needed something to experiment with things being used as fuel, also kash that's next on my todo list

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what about leaf block kash

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how do u deal with that

austere ivy
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call it leaf_block

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austere ivy
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block_of_leaves

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leafs?

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alright that was unfair

upper flicker
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kash has years of MCP naming experience to throw at you

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let's tango

upper flicker
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right when you think you've found one you like

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its over

austere ivy
cosmic raft
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don't make me pull the database out

austere ivy
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debate has been settled ;p

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let's fucking go

cosmic raft
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i'll murder your eyes with the db stuff

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pull out the db

merry talon
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just give it a number

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lemme tell u why you want leaf blocks

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sorta like snow blocks

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they've got levels that increase in leaffall

upper flicker
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gross

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so what u gonna do

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leaf and leaf_block

upper flicker
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rake them up

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light them on fire

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dum

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leaf_item, leaf_block

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it's consistent

merry talon
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and then you have

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leaf_entity

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for the falling leaves

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ye

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see look at it

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the naming is god tier

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zero flaws

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perfect

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how could you come back from such an argument

cosmic raft
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it was fun fixing stuff a while back

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wrote tons of ugly stuff

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update mcp.method f
    set mcp_name = m0.mcp_name
    from mcp.method m0
    where f.mcp_version_pid = 25
        and m0.mcp_version_pid = 23
        and f.mcp_name is null
        and m0.mcp_name is not null
        and m0.mcp_name not like '%func_%'
        and f.srg_name = m0.srg_name
        and f.srg_descriptor = m0.srg_descriptor
    returning f.mcp_version_pid, f.srg_name, f.mcp_name;
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victory is mine

austere ivy
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so

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leaf_item or leaf_block

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or

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leaf

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leaf_item and leaf_block

upper flicker
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also tehbrian

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you could really do with improving your intellij's theme and styling

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really class up the place

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snell roundhand is just 💯 classy

austere ivy
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:D

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oh

upper flicker
austere ivy
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how would I do that

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z your idea

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of

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god I fucking knew it

austere ivy
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oh my gosh it's so classy

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is this better? :

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I prefer the high constrast version

austere ivy
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ow even outside of a meme that them eis really bad

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white theme Pog

austere ivy
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even day time that theme is too bright

upper flicker
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oh yeah I forgot to switch to high contrast

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thats my bad

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remember what happened last time

merry talon
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you need gigantic letters at the beginning of files

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like in paragraphs

upper flicker
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jesus I cant read the preferences panes

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dumb games give dumb prizes

twin lagoon
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should use netbeans

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or notepad

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notepad is bearable

upper flicker
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here you go darling

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better be good

upper flicker
austere ivy
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this is very necessary btw

merry talon
austere ivy
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oh my gosh no

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here

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set your system font to it

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no balls

upper flicker
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tbh I dont even remember where you do that on macos

austere ivy
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material theme! because everything needs to be f l a t

upper flicker
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on windows its just a registry tweak

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.g system wide font macos

limber knotBOT
merry talon
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just overwrite every font

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with that file

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search for all fonts available on ur drive

upper flicker
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menu font is hardcoded apparently

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replace with that font

upper flicker
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riperino

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lame

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this is why windows rules

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and macos drools

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and linux is for fools

upper flicker
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linux would let you go furthest

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farthest

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yeah probably

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but there's a too far

merry talon
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i would rather have hardcoded fonts than 73 million registry keys

upper flicker
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you could rip out the whole text rendering system and replace it with one that just renders leaf emojis

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could also shoot myself

austere ivy
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:bait:

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wait

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mhm leaf block it is

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what should the leaf block do

upper flicker
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yeah thats leaf's

austere ivy
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:brian:

upper flicker
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just sit there and bitch mostly

austere ivy
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well that's sad

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alright I'm gonna make leaf block

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mfw

upper flicker
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now I have to fix this mess

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IJ itll be okay

twin lagoon
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intellij's material theme is god awful

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i liked one dark though

upper flicker
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hmm jetbrains mono font is pretty nice looking at a glance

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it uses the wrong zero but thats okay

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oh I was supposed to be doing something before wasn't I

upper flicker
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i dont even know anymore

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oh yeah fixing some dumb cb logic

twin lagoon
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menlo / meslo best font

proud lance
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cough Termsyn cough

merry talon
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well which is the right zero

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the dot or the line

upper flicker
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the line

merry talon
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agreed

upper flicker
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I dont hate their version of the dotted zero though

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I was using fira code before

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which is mostly fine but had weird chars

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like r was really serifed looking

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dotted zero?

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oh yeah 0

limber knotBOT
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Many, this Intel price slash shows how much of a margin they have

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what'd they slice from

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and to wat

limber knotBOT
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They just reduced the high end Xeon L thingies by 5k each

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The xeons with 6 memory lanes so 4.5TB max ram

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jfc 5k

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from what though

austere ivy
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alright

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I want a block

upper flicker
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$$,$$$ probably

austere ivy
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that if you look through it

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it ignores every block past it and you just see the sky

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4 figures works peepoJuice

austere ivy
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it's a supertransparent™ block, how would I do that?

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check what leaves do

limber knotBOT
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The biggest one 18k to 5k, some from 9k to 4k (euro)

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intel getting rolled Pog

limber knotBOT
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Ah no not euro, usd

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ah germans, imposing their will on things not yet theirs

upper flicker
merry talon
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it's telling how insane the margins are

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when these things happen lol

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yikes for intel

patent bone
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any plugins to change your chat colour for 1.14?

twin lagoon
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essentialsxchat

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deluxechat

merry talon
limber knotBOT
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English source

ancient bolt
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Okay I'm officially not comfortable shipping my computer and monitors with a moving company

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Gonna do what I can to keep it in my car

upper flicker
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dont blame you

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yeah

upper flicker
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I used to put my three between the backseat and the drivers seat wrapped in blankets

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awh you made ur computers all snuggly

upper flicker
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then the tower just laid down somewhere and kinda tucked in to not bounce around

austere ivy
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hey

upper flicker
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snuggly monitors are happy monitors

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oh right that'll break item meta wont it

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shieeet

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fuck never pr again at 11

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knew I had to deal with it but forget

austere ivy
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alright

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commands and keybinds time

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to actually

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you know

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hacksiedoodle

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whaaaaooo

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you gon be so slippery

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FANCY!!!!

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o holy guac

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do NOT set slipperiness to 100

ancient bolt
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@upper flicker yeah that's the plan, has the benefit of taking up a lot less space than packing them in a giant box

vestal jasper
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@static badge how much of my patch is even relevant at this point

ancient bolt
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But a lot of the space in my car will be taken up by a cage for my cats so...this will be a fun trip

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I'm targetting a different event entirely

vestal jasper
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o

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fillevent

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ic

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ye

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ur empty

vestal jasper
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ye

peak dirge
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I got my WebPageTest private instance up, by the way

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Currently hosted on Google Cloud, may move it somewhere where it's less expensive to run later

patent bone
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where do I put my addons if I'm using sponge? I only have the mods folder

void void
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why would you ask that in paper?

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Two completely discord softwares

patent bone
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it's unbelievably inactive...... no one talks in it

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oh well

quasi valley
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Wat

void void
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Glare and I just talked to them the other day, very reasonable responses

peak dirge
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Current idea: host WebPageTest server on RamNode (1x 4GB/2vCPU for $20/month in Atlanta) and host runners on OVH (1x Rise-1 with 4 agents with 6GB RAM and 2 cores each in virtual machines)

vestal jasper
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they don't respond instantly but if you wait more than 3 seconds you'll get one

void void
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lmao

polar haven
austere ivy
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does anyone have a recommendation?

void void
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for what big brain

austere ivy
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uh my mod

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currently I made it change the client's position when you press "p"

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I'm literally just poking around in the API and hoping it does something cool lol

patent bone
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Waited 12 minutes the last time I asked something

void void
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Oh wow

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How h orrible

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THe free software has slow support :(

austere ivy
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I want a refund

bitter mural
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how much faster really is paper?

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I run a server on really old hardware and want to know if I will see a large jump in TPS

void void
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if you follow the full optimization guide it should have decent gains but if your hardware is too limited, you're just gonna be fucked in general

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minecraft needs cake

bitter mural
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I mean it runs fine now

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just goes below 20 too easily

golden gust
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Basically, it's good, 1.14+ is a massive kicker in general, though

void void
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yeah, i edited my messages but generally you will see gains, and the optimization guide has a paper dedicated section to tune it even more

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.optimize

limber knotBOT
void void
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^^ if you havent yet, take a look

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dat whole new redstone alg tho <3

bitter mural
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If I follow that guide should I expect a massive jump in performance or only a tiny jump?

void void
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check out the ones where its Impact: Medium or Impact: Heavy

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you can inspect improvements with them

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expect

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im high, sorry

golden gust
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Gains can vary, tbh; But, overall, that guide can offer pretty serious gains

void void
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the 1.14.4 server i run for a streamer does not go below 20 tps

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lol

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with that guide

vestal jasper
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simple streaming once a year does not make you a streamer

void void
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not my streams

austere ivy
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i9900k

void void
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i run it for someone else

vestal jasper
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simple streaming once a year does not make them a streamer

void void
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it literally has not gone below 20tps

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they stream daily 8hrs/day

bitter mural
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Wow

void void
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but i also have villageroptimiser, limitpillagers, farm limiter

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and the world is pregenned

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and the whole optimization guide is followed

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and it's on nvme

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and staggered world saves

bitter mural
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So how much extra performance can I expect to get from stock spigot to fully optimised paper?

void void
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idk? you want numbers? o.O i mean...

bitter mural
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Like when I go down 1 TPS now will that just not happen

void void
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well, again, it's gonna depend on how much resources you have but...maybe not?

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basically, YMMV but typically good results.

golden gust
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Basically, there are too many values in play

bitter mural
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According to Mcmyadmin I’m only using a max of 30% cpu when loosing a lot of TPS

golden gust
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vs vanilla, you are going to get some nice gains overall, however

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mc's main tick loop is on a single thread

void void
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how much ram do you have, and whats your storage setup? it's not just cpu that comes into play. Losing TPS can also be some stupid plugin doing something retarded on the main thread, choking the server out.

golden gust
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paper helps spread the load further with things like chunk loading being done off main, but there is no silver bullet

void void
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Paper helps there with watchdog

golden gust
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Paper offers things like timings v2 to help diagnose performance issues, but, there is an important note that there is no magical silver bullet for performance

bitter mural
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Chunk loading seems to be the main thing killing the server so having that off main should help a lot

void void
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It's chunk gen that's killer right now, and the first step of the optimize guide is pregen your world.

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For me, it worked magnificently. YMMV.

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I fly speed 10 into unloaded chunks, 1.14.4, never go below 20tps and it keeps up. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

bitter mural
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Speed 10 unloaded chunks is a guaranteed TPS decrease for me

austere ivy
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Hold up.

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Hoooold up.

void void
austere ivy
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Alright so my super fancy pantsy client with Fabric that I just made?

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I test it out on an actual server, it..

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it

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it actually does the stuff.

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it moves me around in a hacky unsupported way.

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Is this how unsecure it is?

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Is this how easily people can make hacks?

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Is this all there is to it?

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This is the battle that server developers are up against?

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Literally people like me who in less than 4 hours can completely learn how to easily do this?

void void
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yes, hacks have always just been client mods

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mindblowing

austere ivy
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I thought it'd be like rubberbanding me back

void void
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they arent 'hacks'

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they're code

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wooow

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:o

austere ivy
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server surely has to realize that like

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setting my velocity to 1y every tick is

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like

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well

void void
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no, mc server is a retard, and so is the client, this proto is hardly very secure brian

austere ivy
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wow that's just a big

void void
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plus its openly documented

austere ivy
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huh

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crazy honestly

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because before this I thought that hacks were made by iq 100 people

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iq 300*

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I realize that iq 100 is not very high lol

void void
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they're literally just plugin devs...except, for the client.

austere ivy
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._>

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well that's LAME

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I thought you'd actually have to modify the client or something

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can I literally just player.setFly(true) or something?

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and the server will not care?

void void
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that it cares about

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idk how it works

austere ivy
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wait

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can I modify

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OTHER PLAYERS!?
woaoaaaaaaaa

void void
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doubt

austere ivy
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well this is both lame and cool

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I can do so much

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yet

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this feels so booorrring

void void
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you could add new blocks ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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include non cuboid ones, try making polygonals in the game :D break mc

austere ivy
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ooo okay

quasi valley
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Or blocks that also have a purpose

void void
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another cool thing, you can mod the client to play music

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like connect to youtube music and play while you play

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instead of mc music

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random shit

quasi valley
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Or just loop dubstep for everything all the time

void void
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LUL

vestal jasper
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randomly swap textures of all blocks and items on startup

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advertise it to youtubers and watch as they milk it for money

void void
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imagine, different dubstep beats for each block as you walk on it, which leads to people building dubstep tracks with minecarts on powered rail

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by designing the track with blocks

quasi valley
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Lmao

void void
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brian make it

golden gust
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Deadpool 2 - DubStep scene- Bangarang - length 1m 43s - 92 likes, 1 dislike (98.9%) - 5,702 views - Masster K on 2018.10.28

quasi valley
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Or just make all cats named electronicat and make them die after 3 minutes

austere ivy
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o_o you can??

void void
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yea why not

quasi valley
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😂

austere ivy
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how do I play sound from youtuba

void void
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lol

austere ivy
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any good servers that are bad so that I can experiment with client with?

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see what nms allows till it says NO STOP IT

quasi valley
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Singleplayer

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🐋

austere ivy
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well I want to be able to show people

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and them being like "bro r u hacking" and me being like "absolutely not I just have a mod"

void void
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call that from java, and then play it in mc

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wait can mc play non midi

quasi valley
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The only thing worse than properly cheating is badly cheating

void void
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if not then im stupid

austere ivy
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aw

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that's a shame

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I thought there'd be like

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player.playFromYoutube("https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXCCv8MEYiU")

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) CubeRoll'd (Minecraft Rick Roll) - length 3m 35s - 3,403 likes, 39 dislikes (98.9%) - 103,588 views - grande1899 on 2015.07.02

austere ivy
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lol

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man

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even from there

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ruining my hopes and dreams

void void
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typical brian, expecting things to be done for him.

austere ivy
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hey

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keep yer code DRY,

quasi valley
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No there’s not a „player.playYouTube(url)“ method

pulsar furnace
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you're hacking

I'm not, its a mod...

Litterally every squeeker to get caught hacking since 2009.

austere ivy
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lol

shadow nest
median vapor
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Does anyone know where I might find a custom commands plugin?

void void
median vapor
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I tried MyCommand but it doesn't seem to work in 1.15

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kill simple

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!kill simple

vestal jasper
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.kill simple

limber knotBOT
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glares at simple until they die of boredom.

median vapor
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...

dim ruin
austere ivy
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@vestal jasper

vestal jasper
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hi

austere ivy
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get onto skittlesexymc

vestal jasper
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y

woven otter
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no

austere ivy
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because

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I want to show you

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my client™

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warpvp

limber knotBOT
wise pebble
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@vinux

limber knotBOT
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I’d prefer all the windows to be dead

hard kernel
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if only i was a window

austere ivy
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:(

hard kernel
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so about guis

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would it lag less if instead of using player skulls in gui i used actual items?

wary lark
golden gust
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Well, plugins very rarely go outta their way to optimize inventory creation with skulls, so; yea, probs

hoary skiff
heady spear
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I woke up with a fucking fever yay. I'm so not taking that bloody exam today, no way José.

golden gust
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not sure if saved or going to suffer

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lyf is gud rite?!

shell vine
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past two months got sick 3 times lol

jaunty bolt
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wtf, 1.15.2? O.o

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I thought .1 was the last

golden gust
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So did we, tbh

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I guess that all they said was "not before the xmas hols"

vague bramble
heady spear
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hi discord boys 😜

woven otter
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city wat are u doing

heady spear
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Im in my bed thinking about studying for my analysis test tomorrow

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maybe it's a bad idea to skip two exams in a row idk, so i should probably take that one

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but discord boys ;))

woven otter
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stop being thirsty city

heady spear
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but I haven't had a good slurp in a while

limber knotBOT
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glad I waited with the 1.15 update and generating a map with it xD they added bee nests for more trees in the pre release :D

heady spear
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omg bees

quasi valley
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You’re slurping too much

magic pier
jaunty bolt
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they should add hamsters next 😦

magic pier
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Knowing mojang, they might. We've already got polar bears, pandas and bees.

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We can't rule out as a possibility is all I'm saying

sand vale
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@heady spear jagermeister

limber knotBOT
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*Jägermeister

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runs

upper flicker
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Look at the Germans with their fancy umlauts on the keyboard

olive garden
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You don't need a German keyboard for fancy German characters 😉

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You just need to love Jägermesiter strong enough

upper flicker
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Why is discord mobile showing that stupid notification bar whenever anyone talks in #general

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They reset my preference turning that thing off >:o

cedar spade
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but did they add new tree nests for more bees? 🤔

limber knotBOT
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they spawn on more trees now if that's what you mean

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also they can spawn from tree saplings if they grow near a flower

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I don't understand why mojang introduced bees but not life-threatening allergic reactions

quasi valley
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I also want a small chance to spawn without functioning legs

limber knotBOT
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or arms

quasi valley
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And randomly die after a few to 80 ingame years

limber knotBOT
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where's the spending days on end in bed trying to beat a disease?

hoary skiff
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I'm pretty sure that's mob disguise, as nitwit

sand vale
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@^-^#0000 maybevwrite a pkugin that makes bees give poison w/ knockback?

limber knotBOT
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sure, as soon as I'm done adding this AI which recreates your mom in minecraft to the smallest detail

quasi valley
#

😂

sand vale
#

mom was not a small woman...

limber knotBOT
#

why do you think it's taking so long to make?

shell vine
woven cave
void void
#

the amount of servers reposting the NSA security announcement and pinging everyone...

#

i swear to god

magic pier
#

It's annoying when it's the 3rd time or something but better safe than sorry

#

Also welcome @woven cave

shell vine
#

people like to sound important

void void
#

bro i am on like

#

the 12TH PING

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@ MOTHERFUCKING EVERYONE, WHY

jaunty bolt
#

your fault of being in so many discord servers 😛

#

they wanna notify the users on their discords so ofcourse they @ everyone

celest coyote
#

Simple are they all mc discords

#

Cause I have only seen it here tswizzle

void void
#

a good few

jaunty bolt
#

I didn't do it on mine 😛

void void
#

not mc servers, lots of communities focused around mc projects tho

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the runescape discords did it, the mc ones, some of the streamer ones, random other small discords im in

#

and yea that added up to about 12 now

fallen oracle
#

Weird

#

Just change allow-exploits to false in the windows config.

#

They need to chill.

void void
#

wut

limber knotBOT
#

You mean the thing where crypt32 allows certs to provide their own curve parameters and doesn't verify them with the parent cert?

void void
#

i dont disagree that its a major security issue, but for fucks sake do we need to tag everyone in every possible server? lol

fallen oracle
#

Of course

#

I haven't gotten a single one

limber knotBOT
#

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22048619 explains the math

tptacek

From a conversation with Thomas Pornin, a plausible explanation given the details provided in the DoD advisory:Given an ECDSA signature and control over the curve domain parameters, it's straightforward to create a second private key that matches the original public key, with...

Hacker News ·
void void
#

like oh ho ho, have you HEARD?!?!?!?! THERE IS A PROBLEM. FUCKING UPDATE!!!!!! DO IT!!!!!!

#

not to mention, it is THE EXACT SAME MESSAGE

#

Copied and pasted

#

There is like some central discord where all the discord server owners are, and they just share shit to @ everyone with

limber knotBOT
#

I didn't know ACME made almost the same mistake

#

(Let's Encrypt)

#

btw this only works against you on the web if you don't use Firefox :D

#

So no one in here should have any problems, right?

void void
#

and if you use windows :)

limber knotBOT
#

too bad firefox UX sucks compared to chromium

void void
#

FF is quite nice to me

limber knotBOT
#

you probably just use google to search all sites?

#

runs

void void
#

eh?

limber knotBOT
#

e.g. how do you quickly search for a youtube video?

heady spear
#

You probably think you have a functioning brain

#

runs

void void
#

i dont need my browser to shortcut that for me

heady spear
#

I have a notebook where I write down all video urls

limber knotBOT
#

see, and that annoys me: having to load the site, find the search bar and then type it in

heady spear
#

Then when I want to watch a video I look up the url

void void
#

i also use well organized bookmarks using folders

#

and the bookmark toolbar

limber knotBOT
#

on chromium I can just type you<tab>search input<enter>

void void
#

yea, that's a convenience idgaf about

heady spear
#

Who even uses YouTube

limber knotBOT
#

(and it works for literally all sites that provide a search specification)

heady spear
#

If I want quality content I turn on cable tv

limber knotBOT
#

on firefox you have to manually add the sites and shortcuts to add them to the address bar

#

Firefox was the original browser to do site searches

#

I wish I could switch to firefox but that's a feature I use a dozen times a day xD

void void
#

yea, and if you dont use that and just go to the sites you use instead...there's no diff there. Chromium is slow and bulky, uses way too much of my limited memory (on this laptop, other PC has more than enough)...FF is bae.

heady spear
#

Get a life and stop watching so god damn much YouTube then

void void
#

however, I do have chrome for web dev purposes

woven otter
#

chrome masterrace

limber knotBOT
#

Yeah, the few times I need a debugger in node I have chrome installed

heady spear
#

Simple have you made your site less dumb yet

void void
#

meaning

dapper nacelle
#

oof

void void
#

I haven't really worked on it in a few days

heady spear
#

Ok so no

void void
#

i mean, what part of it is dumb to you

dapper nacelle
#

which framework do you use?

limber knotBOT
#

chrome barely needs a GB for me and I don't notice it being slow ¯_(ツ)_/¯

void void
#

we designed new builders

#

for what dylan

limber knotBOT
#

or well, chromium xD

dapper nacelle
#

your site

heady spear
#

O nice

#

R they hot

void void
#

i mean? idk, try it

heady spear
#

Everything you touch is dumb tbf

fallen oracle
heady spear
#

You’re kinda like king Midas

limber knotBOT
#

Using Chrome/Chromium/Anything using Blink is like using IE 6 and saying "this works great and will never have any negative consequences" :P

void void
#

@dapper nacelle Bootstrap for CSS with a color swatch, nuxtjs for the frontend, spring for the microservices backend

heady spear
#

But with dumb instead of gold

dapper nacelle
#

sounds like its a small project

pearl ibex
#

What the fuck is Blink?

void void
#

what about that sounds small @dapper nacelle

limber knotBOT
#

Blink is the name of the Chromium engine

pearl ibex
#

Oh, i see.

dapper nacelle
#

nuxtjs for frontend

heady spear
void void
#

yeah, and

pearl ibex
#

Firefox for the win. :P

limber knotBOT
#

It used to be webkit but they forked it

void void
#

have you ever used nuxt? lol

limber knotBOT
#

well I'm glad that I didn't say taht it wont have negative consequences :P

dapper nacelle
#

oh wait

pearl ibex
#

retail desi

dapper nacelle
#

nvm

limber knotBOT
#

just that firefox UX sucks compared to chromium

pearl ibex
#

Damn.

#

retail desig

dapper nacelle
#

I thought it was something else

pearl ibex
#

Lmao.

void void
#

Dylan talkin shit about stuff he ain't know about, typical

dapper nacelle
#

but yes I have used Vue

heady spear
#

I really didn’t like using Firefox

#

Vivaldi ftw

pearl ibex
#

Me neither, but... 🤷‍♂️

heady spear
#

Or brave, but brave was borked last time I tried it

limber knotBOT
#

Vivaldi and Brave are both Chromium skins

pearl ibex
#

^

heady spear
#

Yes and?

#

I said I didn’t like the feel of Firefox. Vivaldi is a lot better to use, so I prefer it

#

Idgaf about the whole anti-chromium circlejerk

void void
heady spear
#

Oh that’s a hell of a lot better

pearl ibex
#

I'm not an anti-Chromium dude.

heady spear
#

That looks nice simple, gj

pearl ibex
#

Aikar will tell us which is the ultimate web browser. :>

dapper nacelle
#

I like opera as a browser

pearl ibex
void void
#

transparency on embedded logos got fucked tho, bc someone asked for jpg integration so i added it but ree i had to ree lower the color depth ree

#

so i need to fix that

fallen oracle
#

Simple, did you tell him what we found out about spiget?

limber knotBOT
#

Opera is also just Chromium these days :(

fallen oracle
#

And why it wasn't showing his stuff properly?

limber knotBOT
#

And as of yesterday so is Edge

void void
#

Yea he disagreed with me

dapper nacelle
#

Opera still runs faster on school computers than chrome

pearl ibex
#

Chromium is everywhere, mfw.

heady spear
#

Lol no so the reason why PlotSquared shows up is because it was transferred before spiget became a thing

#

And FAWE was only transferred last year

#

So it makes sense

void void
#

Yeah, that's what I mean tho. Unfortunately Spiget doesn't seem to go and rescrape that base info, possibly just a few stats are rescraped.

dapper nacelle
#

mfw you press enter while in the middle of a sentence

heady spear
#

Also safari is really nice and uh

void void
#

So the ownership was never fixed

dapper nacelle
#

fss

#

I hate this keyboard

limber knotBOT
#

It's a bad thing that Chromium is taking over everything

dapper nacelle
#

its not necessarily a bad thing that Chromium is taking over

pearl ibex
#

^

#

It is bad.

dapper nacelle
#

if there is one standard that makes it all me easier

limber knotBOT
#

We've seen what monocultures on the web do and we've already seen signs that Google would be no different

heady spear
#

Safari is my favorite browser by far, I only use Vivaldi because I can synchronize shit across my non-Apple devices

pearl ibex
#

Agreed with Amaranth.

fallen oracle
#

Alright yeah that would be why

#

But it's like a simple code change to make it update the author

#

:/

heady spear
#

Well then provide a better alternative, no one is going to stop using the browser because you’re afraid of big tech

limber knotBOT
#

Google just randomly changes shit or randomly adds shit without discussion with anyone then makes parts of their websites use the new shit and everyone else either has to convince them to do it differently (unlikely), try to keep up with the new bullshit they're inventing, or go die

pearl ibex
#

Would a privacy-based web monoculture work? thonk

void void
#

Why do we need a monoculture

pearl ibex
#

Basically that.

void void
#

#keepitmulticultural, thanks

pearl ibex
#

I'm not saying we do.

#

I'm thinking about a decentralized network. :P

heady spear
#

I think google should run the entire internet tbh

pearl ibex
#

That would be awesome.

limber knotBOT
#

My job would be easier if everyone was required to be using the latest version of Chrome, sure

pearl ibex
#

But it's kinda shitty when you can't do anything to change something you're not allowed to complain about.

limber knotBOT
#

HTTP/2 is better than SPDY and HTTP/3 and the QUIC protocol are better than the original QUIC

pearl ibex
#

Well, maybe "not allowed" is too excessive.

limber knotBOT
#

Google isn't perfect here, other people can do things better than them

pearl ibex
#

But it is like: "Oh, you have a problem with it? Fuck off and use something else".

limber knotBOT
#

But if Google owns everything that process doesn't happen anymore

void void
#

Is it called PaperMC or PaperSpigot? People say that it is PaperSpigot, but I disagree with it.

limber knotBOT
#

@void void [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

#

Hell I'm excited to see QUIC used for... basically everything

void void
#

You'd be right.

#

thanks @fringe sequoia xD

pearl ibex
#

And Google is the owner of half the internet, so...

heady spear
#

Sounds nice, because options are confusing

limber knotBOT
#

DNS, HTTP, games, VoIP, etc

#

But the original protocol wouldn't have been useful for all of that :P

heady spear
#

Alternatives are bad tbh, there should be one (preferably) state owned option for everything

#

Competition leads to oppression

void void
#

o.o

pearl ibex
#

Wut.

#

Hell nah.

void void
#

He's trolling. Let's fuck him for revenge.

#

COme here CIty.

heady spear
#

I’m not trolling. We spend too much time worrying about what version of xyz to use

#

If there are no options we’d save loads of time and also be happier

void void
heady spear
#

Then people can focus on important things, like defending the motherland and grow healthy crops

pearl ibex
#

Potatoes?

void void
shell vine
dapper nacelle
pearl ibex
#

Spigot sucks.

heady spear
#

Potatoes are the perfect food

#

They can be eaten for every meal

limber knotBOT
#

No it doesn't, that's why spiget exists

void void
#

it has one for plugin updates, i think, but that's it. and it may not actually be rest, i haven't used it

#

might spit plaintext

dapper nacelle
#

well, that was what I wanted to use it for

void void
#

it does have something you can hit, yes, but i dont know if it's rest or not

#

i think it is

limber knotBOT
#

If they turned it on you could have some or all of this: https://xenforo.com/community/pages/api-endpoints/

XenForo community
XF 2.1 API endpoints

This is a temporary location for the XF 2.1 API end point documentation. It will likely move to the core developer documentation at some point in the future.

This document assumes you have already created an API key and setup the necessary headers for your request. Learn mor...

void void
#

heh

#

it's plaintext, and just outputs the latest version number.

limber knotBOT
#

just use spiget

#

Dunno if any of that is turned on though

#

Don't they use the standard xenforo resources stuff?

void void
#

i believe so

dapper nacelle
#

oh that works perfectly

limber knotBOT
#

man life without caffeine is rough

#

So they could turn that API on and replace spiget, assuming they wanted to deal with that kind of load

#

the issue is that the main site is behind cloudflare so you would have to bypass that in order to access that api xD

void void
#

i mean my api is behind CF too, no issues? for downloading binaries, yea i can see an issue there

limber knotBOT
#

Not really, API could go through cloudflare too

magic river
golden gust
#

He could literally add a rule to allow bot access to the api endpoints

limber knotBOT
#

I meant the current situation, even if it was available for whatever reason now you would need to go through it like querying the site

#

but spiget exists and works for almost all usecases (besides automatic updating) so I bet it's just ¯_(ツ)_/¯

golden gust
#

last I saw, he didn't seem too impressed about spiget lol

limber knotBOT
#

How does spiget manage to scrape the website?

void void
#

heh

#

they literally Thread.sleep(9000)

#

on CF pages

golden gust
#

gg

limber knotBOT
#

Oh, is it using a headless browser and hope to get the regular JS checking instead of a captcha?

void void
limber knotBOT
#

Jsoup is just an HTML parser, afaik

dapper nacelle
#

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/{plugin slug}/download?version=297509

#

the version parameter seems completely random

limber knotBOT
#

Seems ugly

dapper nacelle
#

although it does increment every update

limber knotBOT
#

I bet it's a global file id

dapper nacelle
# 
if(version.equalsIgnoreCase(this.getDescription.getVersion)) {
 // We will do stuff here
}else {
 // Also we will do stuff here
}
```online plugin updater tutorials be like
#

equalsIgnoreCase

limber knotBOT
#

wat

void void
dapper nacelle
#

gotta go, dinner is ready

void void
#

(scroll to bottom and see the waitForCloudflare method :p)

limber knotBOT
#

Huh

#

TIL selenium has support for htmlunit

#

Was looking for a selenium based replacement for htmlunit so you could use a real headless browser so that's not what I wanted but neat

#

Looks like PhantomJS is still the goto solution there

#

So now you need to use electron wrappers if you want that functionality, that was one thing I liked about Chrome

golden gust
#

oh, damn

sand vale
#

:/

limber knotBOT
#

Although iirc I didn't use it because there was no way to make it open links in anything other than chrome

golden gust
#

I remember having to install postman on my machine as the app was screaming about google ripping out all that stuff at some point

sand vale
#

postman?

golden gust
#

http client thingamabob

void void
#

<3 postman

sand vale
#

link?

golden gust
#

basically used for inspecting API endpoints and stuff

void void
#

.g postman

limber knotBOT
sand vale
#

oh

limber knotBOT
#

I use Insomnia

golden gust
#

.rest

#

lol

sand vale
#

I have insomnia... but it just keeps me up at night

golden gust
#

owwwh, dat looks pretti

void void
#

ima dl and see what it looks like

limber knotBOT
void void
#

having to name a request before it shows up in the gui

#

i just wanna do a quick one off m8

#

i guess it would be smart to map out my entire api in here tho and then be able to just click between them as needed thonkeyes

limber knotBOT
#

Main thing insomnia is missing is the ability to basically write little JS clients in it

#

With postman you can write before and after hooks for a request that are just arbitrary javascript so can massage your data, make other requests, etc

#

Only thing I used that for was to have an after hook that set a variable for my auth request to store a token then my other requests used that variable

magic river
#

For Microsoft, it was the realization that its project to create its own web rendering engine was an uphill climb that wasn’t worth the investment. Too many websites rendered oddly in Edge, often because they were coded specifically for Chrome or Safari’s Webkit instead of following more generic standards. The deep irony is that long ago, Microsoft’s Internet Explorer nearly broke the web because it demanded custom code from web developers.

void void
#

can insomnia not view the raw request?

#

oh ok, it's in the 'TImeline' tab

heady spear
#

Insomnia is fucking dope, I used it a tonne when making kvantum

#

Without it I would have never gotten that bloody server to work

sand vale
#

it works? 0_0

#

lol j/k city :p

#

lol its incomplete

#

and win10 apps don't abide by it

limber knotBOT
#

Baby steps had dark mode on Linux for a long time. I'm sure windows will eventually

upper flicker
#

desktop apps can opt into it, read the setting, adjust accordingly

#

there's just not a lot of push to do that

#

unlike linux, its opt-in, not some theme replacement

#

and unlike macOS, most windows devs arent typically in a big hurry to jump on the new shiny feature

limber knotBOT
#

Or to make changes in general

#

Have got to love 32bit apps than exceed memory limits

#

s/than/that

#

Correction, <Tea> Have got to love 32bit apps that exceed memory limits

upper flicker
#

a lot of the older WPF style apps never did update to support high dpi properly

limber knotBOT
#

That too

sand hawk
upper flicker
#

so MS added some built in scaling options to try and upscale them and keep them looking pretty

limber knotBOT
#

It doesn’t work that well

upper flicker
#

and then when that fails you can just set them to be 2x and blurry

#

it works well on some simple forms apps

#

it falls down pretty quick when the apps use their own UI elements

limber knotBOT
#

I have issues an I’m only on 1440p

upper flicker
#

fractional scaling is pretty ugly in general

limber knotBOT
#

Can’t imagine high dpi on 4K or higher

upper flicker
#

if you arent on 1x or 2x its gonna look blurry in some way shape or form even if apps do support it

potent warren
#

I heard people talking about WPF 👀

upper flicker
#

tl;dr its old, apps not update, makes high dpi look bad

#

wasnt really talking much about wpf itself

potent warren
#

Why are you even talking crap about WPF? It scales fine in here.

#

Just make sure the devs tell Windows that it actually does have DPI Awareness...

upper flicker
#

WPF has very very publicly debated and discussed issues with high dpi and mixed dpi environments

#

it can work

#

it just often doesnt

potent warren
#

Well, blame the devs.

upper flicker
#

no need to come to its defense

#

thats what I was doing, read up before you start trying to white knight an ancient forms framework

sand vale
#

lol

potent warren
#

wpf ain't ancient.

#

Winforms is.

#

WinForms vs WPF is like Swing vs JavaFX imo

upper flicker
#

winforms is even worse off

sand vale
#

I just want dx12 on ,Linux, then windows can go bye bye

potent warren
#

WinForms is a disgrace ngl

#

But wpf is bae.

upper flicker
#

wpf is mostly just devs and their custom interface elements having problems

#

not wpf itself afaik

#

forms has a bunch of hacks for highdpi as well I think

potent warren
#

Well, I haven't had many problems while using wpf

#

And my laptop has a high dpi display 🤔

#

So, scaling works fine and I can test it

upper flicker
#

are you still going on this

potent warren
#

yes

upper flicker
#

so what are you working on now?

potent warren
#

🤷‍♂️

upper flicker
#

oh

#

you always seemed to have some windowsy project you were working on

potent warren
#

I have many concurrent projects.... blame adhd ¯_(ツ)_/¯

upper flicker
potent warren
#

True.

sturdy fulcrum
#

Hey ladies

unreal quarry
#

That comic is truer than true, z :o

#

steals

void void
#

^

pulsar wigeon
unreal quarry
#

Lol

limber knotBOT
#

I swear I'm starting to have low tension and hypoglycemia issues

unreal quarry
#

I'd be surprised if any sk code is left in WE at all, tbh

limber knotBOT
#

I'd be shook if there isn't sk code left in WE

#

I swear that project is compatible with minecraft infdev

unreal quarry
#

Its been rewritten twice now

#

Lol

limber knotBOT
#

so has your mom

#

ngl I've been having some really bad WE issues with 1.15

#

only crash I've had so far was due to it, x5

#

somehow creating schematics seems to be fubar

pulsar wigeon
#

nah, there's plenty of sk code left

#

magma i see exactly 0 reports from you

#

so i'm guessing it just doesn't like your beard

limber knotBOT
#

point for ^-^

#

hey wiz

#

I'd like to file a report

pulsar wigeon
#

don't make me get on irc and ban you

#

but uh that said

#

i don't think it's possible to crash creating a schematic

limber knotBOT
#

when I type /schem save the server outputs "wiz is a stinky boi"

pulsar wigeon
#

since it's all async

limber knotBOT
#

it's so weird

golden gust
#

I mean, it's not wrong

pulsar wigeon
#

yea i haven't showered in 3 weeks

limber knotBOT
#

sure but it just doesn't seem appropriate

pulsar wigeon
#

lmao o man

#

do you guys know about commandbook's ping/pong

#

that was quite something

limber knotBOT
#

hang on I think I need to draw an illustration of what happens when I do the command

pulsar wigeon
#

that was like papi's /daddy butthurt community drama level shit there

fallen oracle
#

Lol good times

#

Idk why people got so upset

limber knotBOT
pulsar wigeon
#

i'm flattered you went through all that work

limber knotBOT
#

I'm using shaders so that's maybe why the game is looking a bit weird

sand hawk
pulsar wigeon
#

^best vid on yt

#

some random MC dude made it for me cuz he couldn't find anything on youtube when he searched for me

sand hawk
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Questionable Ethics: [Week 1] Part 1 - length 30m - 3 likes, 0 dislikes (100.0%) - 250 views - Kurius Kyage on 2014.06.08

pulsar wigeon
#

oh boi

#

digging deep

#

really tho this isn't the place for doxxing me

#

i use the same name everywhere, everyone can do their own google search if they so desire

limber knotBOT
#

isn't it?

#

did you know that wiz is actually a 500 feet tall and from the paleolithic era

golden gust
#

.minecraft

limber knotBOT
#

(Korobi) Ceiling Fan Trick Knockdown - length 1m 4s - 23,629 likes, 2,185 dislikes (91.5%) - 5,386,874 views - Stuntman89 on 2011.12.30 - NSFW****

fallen oracle
#

Wowza

limber knotBOT
#

which technically means he's A BOOMER

golden gust
#

I just made a mess in my trowza

#

(And they wonder why I keep wrestling elvis)

limber knotBOT
#

so what's the best way to get a jar that depends on javafx to run under java 13? I assumed one would just have to provide the module path to a javafx install and add the required modules but it claims that it can't find them even though the path is accessible :S

#

can the module path only be relative or something like that?

golden gust
#

you sure you got the natives and stuff?

#

Not worked with jfx in newer versions, but I know that it's more fun these days

limber knotBOT
#

I got the linux jmods that are linked on openjfx.io, yeah

#

I feel exhausted

cosmic raft
#

me too

pulsar wigeon
#

don't think too hard, your brain cell can't overclock that much

sturdy fulcrum
#

Mhmm

cosmic raft
#

wheeeeeee

limber knotBOT
#

I guess I'm going to run that server with java 8 for now :S

pearl ibex
#

Kash! o/

cosmic raft
#

hi

pearl ibex
#

:D

#

How are you doing?

cosmic raft
#

blah!

pearl ibex
zealous knot
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Is it possible to convert skript into a plugin to have it run faster?

pearl ibex
upper flicker
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if by convert you mean rewrite

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yes

pearl ibex
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Blasphemy.

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Skript. Ew.

upper flicker
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otherwise no

cosmic raft
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text just broke 200 commits today \o/

olive garden
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You could always just use QuickSkript instead of boring normal Skript @zealous knot

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if your Skript does nothing more than send messages on events and commends it will even work

zealous knot
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Could i compile it into a plugin though? Instead of having it interpreted at runtime?

olive garden
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While QuickSkript interprets skripts at runtime, it only does it once - on startup, when the QuickSkript plugin gets enabled

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This is almost the same as not interpreting at runtime, so it's almost as good as Java plugins

magic river
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Does Skript still run the scripts on a separate thread and let you make API calls?

zealous knot
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Sounds good, but looking for a more permanent solution, goal being replacing all of my plugins with a custom version of the written in skript

unreal quarry
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watches from the corner as everyone gets baited by mister_fix

zealous knot
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God dammit billy

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This doesn’t work as well as it did last time 😦

golden gust
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This doesn't was well

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Hai mini, is dat u?

olive garden
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you not being able to write sentences kind of contributed to that

upper flicker
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not all that far outside the realm of the usual questions we get tbh

zealous knot
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Shut up fuckass

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Ill get you guys next time

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@potent bloom you have to admit last time was pretty good

pulsar wigeon
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wat

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who tf is bill

zealous knot
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LMAO

pulsar wigeon
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are you ok there

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you sound a bit perturbed

latent valve
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Seem like someone is high

zealous knot
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My fatass fingers are contributing a lot to me sounding more autistic than I actually am

golden gust
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Wait

pearl ibex
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Kash, can i use text? :>

golden gust
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That's possible?

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asking to use something

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not just "borrowing" stuff

zealous knot
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Fat fingers making you spell like a retard?

pearl ibex
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I just wanna talk. :P

pulsar wigeon
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you know that reminds me

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we prob need to add a license block for text in WE

pearl ibex
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Even if he says no, i'll use it, lmao.

pulsar wigeon
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luckily it's gpl compatible anyway

unreal quarry
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forks WE to remove license block

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Fixed

pulsar wigeon
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the real question is do text and text-extras each need their own license block

pearl ibex
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MIT license.

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Conditions:

License and copyright notice.

pulsar wigeon
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kash text-extras' license still just says 2018

pearl ibex
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Mfw.

void void
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Jesus

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I started with learning about NoSQL and the power of NO RELATIONSHIPS.

limber knotBOT
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Go simple GO

vestal jasper
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@void void you've had experience with having no relationships for a while

unreal quarry
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Nah, the real question is why does everyone care so much about licenses? I mean, we're writing code against an invalidly licensed API for an implementation that's illegally decompiled and redistributed copywrited material. I don't think any of us are in a position to worry about licenses, tbh

pearl ibex
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I've been using that power since 2014, lmao.

void void
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Now, I've stumbled upon Graph DBs. Which are like, relational DBs on fucking acid and cocaine at the same time.