general

[fallen jungle]

Not making it thread-safe at all doesn't seem like a horrible option
at worst you get a few funny values, but I don't think that's any worse than copying the array since then you'd definitely be behind the current state by a few blocks

[pulsar wigeon]

doesn't look synchronized

        ...
        } else {
            this.lock.lock();
       }```

can't something lock in between the isLocked check and the lock() call

[fallen jungle]

I want to say yes but I also hope whoever wrote that is required to know better than me

[golden gust]

yup

[pulsar wigeon]

reeeeeeeeee

[pulsar wigeon]

also only the public methods actually use the lock

the protected methods ignore it entirely

so hopefully no one makes non-safe child classes here

[fallen jungle]

it's on them if they do

it's not like they'd be getting any support

[pulsar wigeon]

yea obv

just diving into mojang spaghetti here

[pastel skiff]

Anyone know the difference between mcmmo and mmocore

[pulsar wigeon]

...everything?

[pastel skiff]

which is better

[pulsar wigeon]

i mean i've never even heard of mmocore

if that gives you any idea

[pastel skiff]

okay lol

[golden gust]

mmocore is a classes plugin

mcmmo is more skills

[pulsar wigeon]

oic

[pastel skiff]

it has classes

[pulsar wigeon]

what does

mcmmo doesn't have classes lol

[pastel skiff]

mmocore

[pulsar wigeon]

that's what cat just said

?

[pastel skiff]

oh okay

thought he said classless

[static badge]

If they switched to trylock it would work

[pulsar wigeon]

but they didn't

thus we are left with mojangisms

[static badge]

Yeah mojang threading

[pulsar wigeon]

i mean realistically it doesn't matter much since vanilla probably never runs into that

like, after the worker thread finishes making the chunk it prob does a full handoff to the main thread and never touches it again

[static badge]

We modify the class because of plugins

[pulsar wigeon]

but then plugins...

wait what does cb/spigot/paper add

does it fix that lock

i wasn't looking at cb code lol

[cedar spade]

mmm mojang spaghetti

[static badge]

No we don't

We just spit out the owner of the lock

[pulsar wigeon]

oic

[static badge]

Ye so we can blame

[pulsar wigeon]

wtf is this shit

take ur shitposts to #memes

or tbh preferably to /dev/null

[latent valve]

unknown error.

ok wiz

[quasi valley]

🚮

[limber knot]

hurts KennyTV

flicks KennyTV left nipple

[golden gust]

kinky

[quasi valley]

wow let me come up there and kick you off again

[limber knot]

kicks Vertanzil off cat's massive belly

[olive patio]

[limber knot]

Muhahahahah

[golden gust]

wut u tryna say u fuq

[limber knot]

Oh noes

oh no

Wow

he got scared, I think I did too

well time to go and eat and grow my own belly

[pulsar wigeon]

why tf are you guys erping in here again

[limber knot]

he got scared and pussied out pf https://i.imgur.com/4tamwdB.png

[left swift]

[limber knot]

pokes KennyTV

ah you're back, coward

Muhahahaha

pets KennyTV

kicks Vertanzil off wiz' block list

throws KennyTV against a wall

throws the wall against Vertanzil

Hug it

no u

[pliant laurel]

bStats?

[void void]

depends on the info

harmless info

wut

i mean

if you use transparent solutions then it's quite harmless because you can review what stuff is sent and what is not

[limber knot]

OP themself

uh yea no

[golden gust]

sending IPs ain't really stats as much as being a malicious cunt

[limber knot]

if they put a backdoor in their plugin, that's a backdoor with or without an ip

[golden gust]

generally stats are anonymised, so that IPs aren't an issue

[limber knot]

and still, it just shows that the people complaining aren't even smart enough to find out that the metrics classes are there for them to look at

Bstats still has your IP

Cause like, you make a http request

[pulsar wigeon]

yes, but it's not displayed

it's just kept to prevent abuse

[limber knot]

and a site knowing your public server's ip address is pretty useless anyways

and they can also identify you with the uid set in the config

not that it actually matters

[pastel skiff]

What plugin can I use for RTP with 1.15.1?

[zealous knot]

Yes

[pastel skiff]

Thnx

[wicked remnant]

Yeah

[woven otter]

Yes

[void void]

ye

[limber knot]

yes

[unreal quarry]

Yup

[zealous knot]

https://fix.sxcu.net/RHq6dW.png

[hard kernel]

hi billy

[limber knot]

https://abcnews.go.com/International/iran-launches-missiles-us-air-bases-iraq-us/story?id=68130625

[woven otter]

anyone else experiencing a bug in 1.15.1 where time keeps flicking to night 🤔

[zealous knot]

wtf is 1.15.1

[woven otter]

mc

[zealous knot]

[woven otter]

https://i.mtm123.lv/yHvo77Zk.gif
it lags a bit in the gif but you get the gist

[tame pendant]

Has not happened to me ever

[pulsar wigeon]

client side or?

ie the server time isn't changing right?

[woven otter]

let me check

[tame pendant]

F3 shows time i think

[woven otter]

it's clientside

wait hold on

yeah looks like it's clientside

very weird

[tame pendant]

I found https://bugs.mojang.com/plugins/servlet/mobile#issue/MC-133757

But it says resolved so idk

[void void]

I'm reading about Cassandra and their recommendations are giving me a stroke

This is why I don't like NOSQL as well tho

They recommend denormalization (or, duplicating data) instead of having relations by id and looking shit up

Like, it feels so unsafe :(((

Well, more than just that... when something gets deleted, usually a cascade does it for me. Now I'd have to manually delete all the related things manually.

[cosmic raft]

likes nosql :3

[void void]

do you like data duplication as well?

[cosmic raft]

╭─<kashike@korobi>-<~>-<1:27AM>-◇
╰─➤ mongo felix bin/db_count_records.js
MongoDB shell version: 3.2.12
connecting to: felix
channel_ai - 6 records
channel_ai_history - 78 records
channel_commands - 837 records
channel_topics - 8,173 records
channels - 125 records
chat_indexes - 67,374 records
chats - 15,716,879 records
kitty_images - 2 records
my_collection_keys - 18 records
networks - 7 records
reminders - 1,140 records
users - 45 records

[void void]

how many of your tables have data duplicated

just wondering

[cosmic raft]

define "data duplicated"

[void void]

uhh, like channels has some channel data and a channel id or somthing im assuming and channel_commands references a channel.

how many of the channel columns and shared between channels and channel_commands

this is what I'm reading in the cassandra guide rn:
http://cassandra.apache.org/doc/latest/_images/data_modeling_hotel_logical.png

notice hotels_by_poi and hotels share 4 columns

and this is 'normal'

[cosmic raft]

{
    "_id" : ObjectId("5c44c99be4b0d7e5055b19bd"),
    "network" : "esper",
    "channel" : "#paper",
    "name" : "1.15",
    "value" : [
        "https://youtu.be/CwfoyVa980U"
    ],
    "is_action" : false,
    "is_alias" : false
}

[limber knot]

wut up gamers

[cosmic raft]

is a command

any more questions @void void

while I have the db open

[void void]

whats a channel

oh

its up there

oh no its not

[cosmic raft]

channels

are messy due to legacy stuff

[void void]

yea whats an entry look like tho

[cosmic raft]

{
    "_id" : ObjectId("56eb8b9ae4b071c24ca4b3ac"),
    "network" : "spigot",
    "channel" : "#paper",
    "key" : null,
    "managers" : [ ],
    "logs_enabled" : true,
    "commands_enabled" : true,
    "command_prefix" : ".",
    "command_prefixes" : [
        ".",
        "="
    ],
    "commands_link_network" : "esper",
    "commands_link_channel" : "#paper",
    "punishments_enabled" : false,
    "repositories" : [ ],
    "last_activity" : ISODate("2020-01-08T01:29:34.539Z"),
    "last_activity_valid" : ISODate("2020-01-08T01:29:34.539Z"),
    "topic" : {
        "actor_nick" : "kashike",
        "actor_host" : null,
        "time" : ISODate("2019-03-13T20:08:12Z"),
        "value" : "Social discussions | For help, please join us on Discord (https://discord.gg/papermc) or join #paper-help"
    },
    "modes" : {
        "C" : null,
        "t" : null,
        "J" : "15",
        "M" : null,
        "n" : null
    },
    "mode_string" : "+CtJMn 15",
    "notify_about_korobi" : false,
    "permissions" : [
        "grant.command.operator.modify"
    ],
    "reminders_enabled" : true,
    "visibility" : "PUBLIC",
    "migrations" : [
        "aec8c7b2-c512-4743-a795-9779018d66b0"
    ],
    "commands" : {
        "link" : ObjectId("56c6add9e4b057e1e389a0d6")
    },
    "commands_link" : ObjectId("56c6add9e4b057e1e389a0d6"),
    "seen_enabled" : true
}

[void void]

so 'network' and 'channel' are duplicated

which pretty much is consistent with what im reading

[cosmic raft]

kinda, but only for legacy reasons

[void void]

well how would you do it if you didnt have to worry about legacy

isnt this a nosql pattern

[cosmic raft]

in v2:

command:

{
    "_id" : ObjectId("5c7d4c8079c58277bae94545"),
    "aliases" : [
        "test"
    ],
    "channel_id" : ObjectId("5c7d4c6679c58277bae94544"),
    "responses" : [
        "\u000313This is a test!"
    ],
    "type" : "COMMAND"
}

channel:

{
    "_id" : ObjectId("5c7c118679c582701261ba56"),
    "feature" : {
        "commands" : {
            "enabled" : false,
            "prefixes" : [
                "."
            ]
        },
        "logging" : {
            "enabled" : true
        }
    },
    "name" : "#paper",
    "network_id" : ObjectId("5c7c10272d26349e2312cb4e"),
    "slug" : "#paper"
}

[void void]

ok well wtf, that's kinda relational

minus any db level enforcement of it being relational of course...but data wise, it's fairly normalized

[cosmic raft]

like i said, v1 is all gross due to legacy shit

having been used by 3 different things in the past :)

[void void]

but in cassandra, using relations is discouraged for some reason mainly to support its distributive qualities (its designed with scale in mind)

[cosmic raft]

the real amazing part

[void void]

it says, joins should be avoided in case the table it needs it across partitions and needs the network to be searched or some bullshit

[cosmic raft]

is how much better irc logs are in v2

[void void]

oh btw, once again, do you want irclogs.org?

its about to expire, i dont want money just transfer it off my acct

[cosmic raft]

hmm

i'll pm you in a few

[void void]

kk

[cosmic raft]

v1:

{
    "_id" : ObjectId("5c7c129de4b0153a463d985a"),
    "network" : "spigot",
    "channel" : "#paper",
    "channel_object_id" : ObjectId("56eb8b9ae4b071c24ca4b3ac"),
    "type" : "MESSAGE",
    "date" : ISODate("2019-03-03T17:45:01.816Z"),
    "actor_name" : "DiscordBot",
    "actor_hostname" : "DiscordBot!~[e-mail]",
    "actor_prefix" : "VOICE",
    "recipient_name" : null,
    "recipient_hostname" : null,
    "recipient_prefix" : null,
    "message" : "<\u000307Z​75​0\u000f> he needs a taco hat"
}

v2:

{
    "_id" : ObjectId("5c7c129d79c582701261ba6a"),
    "author" : {
        "host" : "SpigotMC-ffh63a.destroystokyo.com",
        "modes" : [
            "+"
        ],
        "nick" : "DiscordBot",
        "user" : "~DiscordBot"
    },
    "channel_id" : ObjectId("5c7c118679c582701261ba56"),
    "message" : "<\u000307Z​75​0\u000f> he needs a taco hat",
    "time" : ISODate("2019-03-03T17:45:01.930Z"),
    "type" : "message"
}

[void void]

nice

so, do you join on the frontend or what do you do when nosql is normalized like that

as i know it doesnt support joins

cassandra says you can join on the frontend, if necessary, but instead of that, the tables should be designed in such a way that 1 query is all you need

which...goes against all I believe in.

but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cosmic raft]

v1: https://github.com/korobi/Web/blob/master/src/Korobi/WebBundle/Repository/ChatRepository.php#L14-L23

v2 is the same bug just field('channel_id')->equals($id) basically

but*

[void void]

interesting

[woven otter]

it sucks that you can't get window for opened invs without dealing with NMS but I guess technically that could be an implementation detail

https://i.mtm123.lv/xtXUUoty.png
thank god. this solves everything tho

[pulsar wigeon]

block them

but not like, from a specific repo or something

that just blocks them everywhere

[shell vine]

prob could get them banned from github for that

[static badge]

n word

[golden gust]

Phan probs knows a bit about that

Blocking them prevents them from interacting with the repo and stuff

Go to their profile page

[static badge]

mfw blurring the word

I wonder if we send a couple thousand of nwords to iran would it be as powerful as a nuke

everyone seems to treat em like they're bombs

"nword ends ww3"

[shell vine]

racism solved

[static badge]

well technically over in iran they're not black so maybe you'd need to prefix it with sand for it to have effect

[cosmic raft]

yikes

I see why you're banning that person @upbeat sail

[static badge]

When you really want to be a slave...

I'm quoting you :>

(for anyone who is not aware)

it's the best word to use to get at people tbh that's why

racism detected

[cosmic raft]

moderation in moderation

[static badge]

cancer is good to have in moderation

[shell vine]

racism alert

[woven otter]

not good if you have braincell count in moderation

[static badge]

UK: do you have a loicense to use the nword

[woven otter]

you might end up getting too little

[pulsar wigeon]

[10:13 PM] kashike: moderation in moderation

riiiight

[woven otter]

no kicking wiz

[cosmic raft]

hi wiz

how are you today?

[pulsar wigeon]

haven't kicked my quota today

:^)

[static badge]

well get going

find them troublemakers

[woven otter]

kick leaf for example

[static badge]

ull regret it

[woven otter]

[static badge]

ill drink duck soup

[woven otter]

mfw

that's wrong

stop it

or

.leaf

[limber knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/289587909051416579/550924756111589397/Peek_2019-03-01_01-17.webm

[static badge]

ur already regretting

kicking cat sounds like a death sentence

yeah that's the death sentence

[unreal quarry]

screenshots kyrobi out of context and sends to peta

Kick cat for science

[golden gust]

am invincible

unless the taco dude shows up

[static badge]

oh right you can kick your superiors in discord can you

[woven otter]

kick Z

[static badge]

can't

[woven otter]

like actually kick

[static badge]

wish we could tbh

find out

wiz is right here

uh oh

if he's doing pushups with that dick I don't know what to say

[golden gust]

Wut?

You don't do dickups?

[static badge]

I do fuckups

jfc

[golden gust]

seems legit

mfw

[static badge]

[limber knot]

unfortunately irc never forgets

[golden gust]

mfw he jumped over to look at it

[static badge]

I'm on hexchat boys

no image previews

[limber knot]

here

<DiscordBot> <K​yr​ob​i> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/555469074080202765/664309565487316993/unkhilnown.jpg

[static badge]

[vestal jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSxJoPJFxOg
relevant to the image, explicit audio

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Tenacious D - Cock Pushups - length 49s - 982 likes, 41 dislikes (96.0%) - 326,602 views - dillpillontherilril on 2008.04.25

[inland fiber]

Question for programmers in java, how hard is java data structures and algorithms

[vestal jasper]

wat

what algorithms

all of the algorithms and structures dude

why did I even ask the answer is so simple

all of them

[limber knot]

I'd say it's a hardness of 7

in the CHS scale

[void void]

is 1.15 stable?

or hell no?

[proud lance]

Yes

[void void]

really?

compared to 1.14

[proud lance]

Literally both are stable

[void void]

from my experience 1.14 is extremely laggy

not only my experience

generally for a lot of servers

[vestal jasper]

lag != stability

just because it performs worse doesn't make it not stable

higher risk of corrupting chunks or frequent crashes would make it not stable

[void void]

i see

[static badge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR6mQyj7m70

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Cat Sticks Head In Glass For Water - length 15s - 1,029 likes, 8 dislikes (99.2%) - 28,598 views - Snitch on 2019.10.07

[vestal jasper]

oh look the furry is awake

[proud lance]

Is steamfrost leaf?

Or is there another one

[void void]

has anyone here tried colocation before?

[vestal jasper]

it's leaf

[proud lance]

I have years ago

[static badge]

.g colocation

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colocation -- Colocation - Wikipedia: "Colocation or collocation may refer to: Colocation (business), the placement of several entities in a single location; Colocation centre, a data..."

[void void]

@proud lance omg I have a budget to build a really good server, What I'm wondering is, what would be an average cost per month for the colocation center to maintain this?

[proud lance]

Not worth it if it's a gaming server.

For one

[void void]

how much? like over $100 a month?

[proud lance]

Usually

[void void]

that's not bad

[proud lance]

Maybe less

[void void]

that's even better

[proud lance]

Not really

[void void]

I'm considering investing $3k on a dedicated server, and then going to a colocation for them to maintain it......

[proud lance]

Because you haven't mentioned Unit size, what uplink, DDoS protection

[void void]

o, i see

[golden gust]

"for them to maintain it"

[void void]

well, whatever term you'd use

[golden gust]

They literally just give you a spot in a rack and a few cables

[proud lance]

Yeah

You are going to maintain it

[golden gust]

Beyond that, not many people in here have dealt with colo and it's heavily going to depend on providers and your needs

Go contact companies who actually offer what you're looking for in the area that you're looking for

[void void]

ok thanks for the info 😍

[proud lance]

I would say look at colo when you have a need for a portion of a rack, not one server, unless it's a specific need

Like some weirdly speced server

[void void]

Do you think 1 gigabit internet connecting @ home in eastern US would work for a server?

[golden gust]

Yes

[proud lance]

It will

[void void]

Any downsides?!

[golden gust]

residental ISPs don't always like people hosting servers on their networks

[proud lance]

Yes you get no support for DDoS and you have to deal with any ISP maintaince which usually brings your network down

[fallen oracle]

And DDos prit didn't exist

[void void]

hmmm could possibly just pay them for a business connectionj?

if that exist

[proud lance]

Business also doesn't do fuck all for DDoS

[fallen oracle]

That still doesn't guarentee 100%

[proud lance]

I had a business line with Verizon

[void void]

how much are you paying?

[proud lance]

I think it was like $140 at the time

For gigabit

[void void]

I just finished my $3k computer and it has REALLYYYY motivated me to build a $3k dedicated server.... I'm so sick of the limitations I have with OVH...

[proud lance]

What linitations

Limitations

[void void]

Paying more for limited ssd or I have to pick a hard drive. Not really limitations, I guess I really just want to do my own server

[proud lance]

Limited SSD?

[void void]

You said a 1 gigabit internet is fine, only thing I have to worry about are getting DDos'd, which does suck and the ISP going offline. Anything else which would make this a bad idea?

[proud lance]

Depends on what ISP you go with

[void void]

Yeah, currently on a 420SSD for my server with so you start. 50% left in space, and the setup cost for a new server is like $80 freaking bucks...

[proud lance]

Infra1 has 960GB

[void void]

cox cable, probably.

[golden gust]

I mean, OVH is literally your issue

If you deal with proper providers, they'll offer muuuuuch more configuration

[proud lance]

Cox will probably suck

[golden gust]

OVH is pretty much a "we have the boxes sitting in the rack ready"

[native thunder]

Ovh is good for what you get

If you want confirmation, you pay more

[golden gust]

Companies like RS.net will let you pick your storage and all that

[native thunder]

Configuration*

[void void]

Also, another issue with OVH is location. It's currently in canada when most of my players are in the states

[proud lance]

They have US

But that aside, I did what you did, it was a waste of money

[golden gust]

their placement is pretty reasonable for coverage of the whole US, tbh

[native thunder]

They're a French company. It kind of makes sense they're not huge in the states lol

[void void]

@proud lance why

[proud lance]

I would never do it again

[void void]

do what?

[native thunder]

But Canada is reasonable ping to most of NA

[void void]

@native thunder this is true

[proud lance]

You get DDoSed once and your venture is done

[void void]

why?

[golden gust]

fwiw, I'll DDoS ur nan

[void void]

https://www.cox.com/business/security/ddos-mitigation.html

[proud lance]

Because if anyone can take down your server, now you have a 3k server you have to figure out where to house

[golden gust]

Something tells me that that is not an included service...

[void void]

yeah it's not

it's probably a lot of money lol

[proud lance]

It's not

Going to cost him like $500 or more

Probably

[native thunder]

Seems low

[proud lance]

Who knows prices aren't posted

[native thunder]

That's why it seems low lol

[proud lance]

I am just saying if it's $500 a month it already blows the budget

[native thunder]

One of those "if you need to ask, you can't afford it"

[proud lance]

Yeah exactly

[void void]

would a router that deals with ddos work, or no?

[proud lance]

No

[void void]

figured

[golden gust]

too late in the chain

[native thunder]

Router that deals with ddos

[proud lance]

Because you probably can't afford it either

[golden gust]

Kinda like @void void's pullout game

[native thunder]

Your isp won't be happy if you're being ddos'd on the regular

[proud lance]

Nah they will just null him

[void void]

well thanks for the info guys, have a goodnight 😍

[proud lance]

And be like sorry chum

[golden gust]

No provider is happy with dealing with DDoS attacks

even mitigation services hate it, it means you're using stuff 😛

[native thunder]

Remember when ovh got wiped out because of a minecraft server

[proud lance]

It was a shame too, I spent like 5k on that server at the time

Had water-cooled over locked xeons

Overclocked

[golden gust]

mfw

water cooling

not using jet fans

[proud lance]

It's a home server

[void void]

true I have 64 children, in 9 months 128

[golden gust]

Sir, if your server doesn't sound like it's taking off, is it really a server?

[proud lance]

And it's overclocked, try getting 5GHz on Xeons 10 years ago

[native thunder]

What better way to wake up in the morning then to schedule a compile in the morning

[golden gust]

That watersystem would need a massive upgrade these days anyways

Gotta get on that RGB game

[native thunder]

If you're not damaging your hearing, you're doing it wrong

[proud lance]

I hate RGB fad

Needs to die off

[golden gust]

nou

[merry talon]

what's wrong with it

just turn it off

[proud lance]

It's literally on every part.

And half of it doesn't work right together

[native thunder]

Just don't buy it?

[golden gust]

https://www.rrrgggbbb.com

[proud lance]

it's literally on every part

I didn't but my glowy RGB ram for the lights

[native thunder]

It's available on every part

[proud lance]

I bought it cause it had the lowest latency

[native thunder]

Just buy the non rgb shit

Or turn it off if you can't

[golden gust]

then get some strips

[proud lance]

Or just sell it as an autistic accessory and stop adding it to everything

[golden gust]

God, remember the one glass panel machine we had

Had a florescent light tube

[proud lance]

I remember those

[golden gust]

my brother also sliced his finger open by sticking his finger in the fanhole lol

[proud lance]

Retardedness runs in the family eh cat

[native thunder]

Better than the alternative

[proud lance]

Jk

[golden gust]

i mean, fwiw

[static badge]

[native thunder]

He could have stuck his dick in there

[golden gust]

This is also the same brother that I convinced to stick his thumb in a lamp socket coz I wanted to see if he'd light up like in the cartoons

[static badge]

mfw cat is evil

[proud lance]

He just hates his brother

[native thunder]

Not surprising given his name sake

[static badge]

did I request your opinion to be heard on this channel

[native thunder]

Why'd you chance your fursona

Change

I type much good today

[static badge]

fursona

[golden gust]

ye

y?

[proud lance]

Show us your fursuit leaf

I want to see how much effort you put into it

[native thunder]

Did you grow out of your tastes

[proud lance]

"I identify as an orange tabby now"

[native thunder]

You're into ice now. Not leaves

[proud lance]

He should get a nice title too

[static badge]

wtf is this bullying

[proud lance]

Like Sir streamfrost

[quasi valley]

Are we bullying furries? Count me in

What are you gonna do, meow at us?

[merry talon]

who the fuck is streamfrost

oh wait

who else could it be

[limber knot]

anyone good at analyzing timings?

[quasi valley]

Throw it into the paper-help channel and maybe there will be one :p

[limber knot]

Company brought new San servers

Man I would love to have those in my basement

One thing 20k

[native thunder]

Take one home with you

Stuff it in your pocket

Like that dude who walked out of a store with a TV

[pulsar wigeon]

that's not all you want in your basement im sure

[native thunder]

Is that a server in your pocket or are you just happy to see me

[limber knot]

Dual socket cpu, 12x64gb ram, 10tb ssd cache, way too much storages

[hexed heron]

random question, but these bot replies, is that some kind of IRC connected to this discord or something?

[golden gust]

yes

[hexed heron]

noice

[limber knot]

I'm in pain

my new goal for 2020 is to always do 20k runs preferably every day

[hard kernel]

Good morning all

[woven otter]

All morning good

[limber knot]

Morning, all good

[woven otter]

All good, Morning

[sharp sentinel]

Good all morning

[latent valve]

gninrom lla doog

[granite salmon]

Morning good all

[cobalt surge]

i just clicked over to paper discord and the message that was on my screen was someone saying they needed help cuz @golden gust was trying to finger them.. i really hope i read that wrong

[limber knot]

it's true, cat tried to finger Vertanzil and me

[cobalt surge]

oh lord

smh'

[limber knot]

god I hate printers

[cobalt surge]

depends on what you are printing

[limber knot]

literally anything

[cobalt surge]

eek

[limber knot]

my printer has like a 2 minute warmup time whenever I want to print a document for the first time in the day

[cobalt surge]

that sucks

i think you may need a new printer

or just never shut it down

[limber knot]

or just don't print anything, pf

[cobalt surge]

or that

[vestal jasper]

oh hi

[cobalt surge]

send via google docs

[limber knot]

this IS a new printer

the old one didn't do this

[cobalt surge]

hello @vestal jasper

then go back to using the old one

[limber knot]

can't

[cobalt surge]

well sounds like you are shit outta luck

[limber knot]

any images printed look like ass and it took forever to print volume

[vestal jasper]

pour water on the printer and when they say why just say "I was trying to get it out of sleep mode"

[void void]

[cobalt surge]

lol

[limber knot]

it's my printer, I'm not going to sabotage my own business

[cobalt surge]

im telling you google docs is the way to go

[vestal jasper]

ok so you can throw it out of your window and mostly no one will question you

[limber knot]

||try fingering your printer so it becomes wet quicker?||

[cobalt surge]

lol kenny

[limber knot]

finally some good fucking advice

[vestal jasper]

I finger my printer each time I need to get it to print

otherwise the paper gets jammed

[limber knot]

not sure it's good printer advice though

some prof told us that google docs own everything you write there, haven't actually fact checked that yet

some prof is a fucking retard

[cobalt surge]

im going to take my kids to school then go work... at least i dont have printer issues

[limber knot]

well I didn't print the right docs

yeah he is, it's my didactis lecturer, and he literally has no fucking clue about didactics and completely fails at teaching us

[cobalt surge]

what a fucktard

[limber knot]

have fun, chrysti

[hard kernel]

i wish someone would finger me

[cobalt surge]

i always do.. pretty much free money to drive ppl where they need to go... im in

[vestal jasper]

sorry I don't finger slime

[limber knot]

😂

[cobalt surge]

lol @vestal jasper

[limber knot]

what are you, racist vicarious?

[vestal jasper]

yes

[hard kernel]

^

[limber knot]

oh ok then

[void void]

imagine fingering slime

i mean ew

[limber knot]

someone has never seen r34 slimegirls

imagine being estonian

ew

[vestal jasper]

you don't need to foreplay slimes, they're literally the embodiment of wet from the get go

[void void]

no u

imagine being upside down

[cobalt surge]

ok seriously on that note.....

[limber knot]

implying slimes aren't the ultimate waifu

wow upsideownist

[vestal jasper]

wonder if chrysti regrets hopping in here yet

[void void]

magma they dummy thicc but wtf

[limber knot]

who doesn't wanna talk about fingering printers and slime? lol

depends on the slimegirl

[vestal jasper]

listen I have nothing against slimes I'm just of the opinion that foreplay with them is completely unnecessary

[limber knot]

#notallslimegirls

[void void]

[limber knot]

this is why I love this server

alright well fuck all yall degenerate I gotta hop on outta here to go make that $$$$$$

[void void]

do any of you guys use nosql for your projects

[limber knot]

redis

[void void]

wut

[limber knot]

we use redis (a nosql) for some stuff

so yes, I do

[void void]

redis (specifically keydb) and etcd here for few things here and there

[merry talon]

i dont think thats what he's meaning lol

[limber knot]

what does he mean then

[unreal quarry]

There other other nosql

Lol

[limber knot]

awh, billy ain't on IRC

was going to erm.. yea..

finger someone again?

oops

Finger slipped

AAAH

electroniccat is just Vertanzil in a cat suit confirmed

[void void]

key/value databases are nosql as well, no?

[limber knot]

yes

[celest coyote]

Yeah

[cobalt surge]

Srsly @golden gust you and your damn fingers.. smh

[vestal jasper]

Cat stop fingering people and fix your meds

[limber knot]

man my new winter clothes are in, they look sorta dum but fucking hell they feel like being in the inside of a furnace

We had like 2 days with sub 0°C lol

[stuck badger]

So how do I setup my own irc bridge bot?

So can I install the discord bridge and the lounge irc server on the same device

[merry talon]

well first of all

thelounge isn't an irc server

[stuck badger]

Ok

[merry talon]

it's irrelevant here

[stuck badger]

So setup an irc server

[merry talon]

i don't think you want to do that

[limber knot]

I mean what exactly do you want to do

[merry talon]

see here https://github.com/zachbr/Dis4IRC/blob/master/docs/Getting-Started.md

[limber knot]

connect to the paper irc channel? bridge some channel on your own discord? create your own entire irc server?

[stuck badger]

I want to make a discord bridge bot for my own server

What's the paper irc channel?

What ip

[limber knot]

it's on spigot's irc https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/irc-guide/

irc.spi.gt

[stuck badger]

Can I connect with the lounge

[limber knot]

yes

thelounge is a client, you can connect to any public irc server through it

[stuck badger]

Ok so I can setup the lounge on my desk and I just use the website to connect to that?

Or do I just use the dedis ip

[void void]

... what do you want to do exactly?

use irc?

you only need to set up the client

[stuck badger]

Oh ok

Ty

[void void]

nvm discord managed to fuck up the history

[celest coyote]

Making a bridge bot is pretty easy, you have both client libraries and use them to login. And you have listeners to send message events and stuff to mirror stuff

Something something.... tada

[limber knot]

I got paid

dabs on bankruptcy

[vestal jasper]

inb4 ping

[woven otter]

haha

good one leaf

[void void]

interesting...

discord has amoled dark mode as well

basically tap dark selection in appearance 10x

[vestal jasper]

only on android tho

[void void]

ye

[latent valve]

discord white theme give you cancer and an early death

[stuck badger]

What's the channel for this server

The general channel for paper

On irc

[limber knot]

"paper"

[stuck badger]

Yeah I'm in it but it's now showing

[limber knot]

register ur nick

[stuck badger]

I can see my discord stuff but not my irc stuff

Ok

[limber knot]

nice

im with the big bois

so if i leave thelounge running on my dedi it should log everything right

[sand vale]

that's the idea.

[proud lance]

Anyone want to work at my company? Here's a job ad

[limber knot]

what the fuck

paying 15€ an hour for being a full time slave lmao

[olive garden]

advertise a course as a job, nice

how to get into legal troubles 101

[wide chasm]

That's completely ridiculous.

[sand vale]

coughfraudcough

[proud lance]

at least you are paying them above minimum wage to work there

[pulsar wigeon]

what the fuck?

is that shopped?

pretty sure that's not your company

yea fake

[limber knot]

one casualty that people seldom bring up regarding the trump presidency is the loss of the illusion that the US gvt might know about aliens and keeping it a secret

because there's a 100% chance he'd tweet about it halfway through the sentence in which he'd first be hearing about it

probably in 4 parts and with terrible grammar

[potent warren]

Is using sockets the best way to communicate between servers with any amount of players?

[topaz mortar]

I would say it is way easier using REDIS PubSub

[potent warren]

Oh, I see.

Thanks :+1:

[limber knot]

(⊙_◎)

[proud lance]

wiz, https://twitter.com/IndeedSupport/status/1214920244021649408?s=19

Indeed Support (@IndeedSupport)

@jfoerster_atx Hi Jonathan, the job posting has been removed and we are investigating further. Thank you. ^DR

Twitter

[pulsar wigeon]

yes

it's a fake posting

not "the posting was never there"

it's just not a real job offering

[zenith dragon]

anyone have any experience setting up nuvotifier and a listener for a waterfall network?

followed the guide on github but it's not having it

[pulsar wigeon]

tried asking in their discord

?

[limber knot]

yea try that

[zenith dragon]

wait, they have a discord? hahahahah

losing the plot, off I go, cheers lads.

[burnt kelp]

So how did everyone learn java?

[wide chasm]

I learned my favorite programming language: Bukkit /s

[quasi valley]

Also through YouTube videos of other fellow Spigot devs!

[wide chasm]

cries in TheBcBroz

[quasi valley]

... most fancy looking online tutorial sites that make you code and text stuff on their website in dedicated chapters should be fine

I first got to java in a class in school and later through some friends

[wide chasm]

I'm still looking for good Java tutorials to recommend people, Kenny, so if you've got an example, that'd be much appreciated 🙂

[quasi valley]

I’ll see if I can find what I once did, was quite a nice and structured site

And free as well

[zealous knot]

for a second i thought you were saying "i'm still looking for a good tutorial to learn java"

i was like

mfw

[wide chasm]

Well, I myself would like a nice in-depth article of some sorts that goes into (a lot of) detail on the optimizations made by Java's JIT compiler, but my Java should generally be good enough.

[burnt kelp]

The one I'm using currently is on udemy it seems pretty good. And is updated regularly. https://www.udemy.com/course/java-the-complete-java-developer-course/

[static badge]

Openjdk boys have jit docs somewhere

[quasi valley]

iirc I once used https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java

[wide chasm]

I checked the one at Codecademy out at one point, but when I did it I felt that the OO stuff came way too fast and that they went over it too quickly. But it looks like they updated it, so I might check it out again.

[limber knot]

so what discord bridge bot do you guys use?

[quasi valley]

pretty sure Z made the bridge

[olive garden]

webhook?

[tawdry coyote]

https://github.com/korobi/Korobi

[quasi valley]

I don't think that's the bridge

this should be https://github.com/zachbr/Dis4IRC

[tawdry coyote]

oh whoops I linked the bot 🙃

[limber knot]

Hmm

[stuck badger]

Hmm

[limber knot]

Thanks for the bot :)

Thelounge formatting on mobile is trash

[limber knot]

literally irc never forgets

[fallen oracle]

Figured it out. It was pihole.

[limber knot]

i have a question about this bot

i cant get the webhook to work

[stuck badger]

    // List of webhooks per channel
    "webhooks": {
      "#discord": "https://discordapp.com/api/webhooks/owo/noice"
    }
  }
]```

[limber knot]

lmao

[upper flicker]

Use discord channel ids

Not names

For everything

I don’t test with or care about names, they’re super brittle

I should just make it scream when someone uses them

[woven otter]

tacos are super brittle too

[upper flicker]

Duck’s self worth is also quite brittle

[woven otter]

it's only because of bullies like you

[upper flicker]

I’m not here enough to bully you

You’re thinking of everyone else

[woven otter]

u are here enough

[upper flicker]

oofers

[woven otter]

.rekt

[limber knot]

☑ CorREKT

[upper flicker]

😦

[limber knot]

how do i setup the webhook on my bridge bot?

[woven otter]

don't choke on a taco tho

[void void]

anyone here use a drawing tablet to design stuff

if so, what model?

[upper flicker]

We used to use Wacom everything for drawing pads just because they’re so well supported by other stuff

I think most were the intuos(?)

[limber knot]

^

[void void]

Is that the one that has no screen on it, it's just a pad you use a pen on

Idk, for me, I feel like that would confuse the fuck out of me

[upper flicker]

Most did not have the screen

Apparently you get used to it

[limber knot]

its not that hard

[upper flicker]

idk I’m not an artist

[limber knot]

kind of like a trackpad

[upper flicker]

We had one with the screen, gave us more problems than the others but it was nice

Quite the price hike though iirc

[void void]

I'm not either, I'm just wondering if they're fairly affordable as I'd /like/ to practice drawing stuff digitally

[upper flicker]

This would’ve been two years ago though

[limber knot]

you can get a p cheap one

[void void]

mainly, erasing bullshit without ruining the entire canvas (cough cough actually drawing) is a perk for me

i'd sit and just do art because of that

[limber knot]

@void void do you know how to setup this discord bot webhook i have the bot setup but the webhook doesnt work

[void void]

what part is failing exactly

[limber knot]

i put the webhook url in the config and it doesnt work

ill get log

https://pastebin.com/8G6VjAbv

[void void]

looks like it's not able to connect to irc

[limber knot]

it connecting

but its the webhook that isnt

[void void]

ok well that log doesnt indicate what you're telling me

it says error event from irc lol

[stuck badger]

    // List of webhooks per channel
    "webhooks": {
      "#discord": "https://discordapp.com/api/webhooks/owo/hmm"
    }
  }
]```

log doesnt matter than

i have my webhook link

[void void]

idk dude, curl your webhook url and see if that works

[limber knot]

ok

[stuck badger]

it works

{"type": 1, "id": "664599798250209311", "name": "Spidey Bot", "avatar": null, "channel_id": "641034265789988871", "guild_id": "641034051666313227", "token": "hhhm"}root@ptero:/home# ```

[void void]

so you're doing something wrong in your code and/or your library is stupid

[stuck badger]

ill get my config

[limber knot]

https://pastebin.com/id1VGnCK

[void void]

is this like a custom app??? or a discord library?

[limber knot]

discord-irc https://github.com/reactiflux/discord-irc

[upper flicker]

Might be the nodejs one

[void void]

and...sanity check...#discord exists where you're running this...right? Because that's exactly copy & paste from the guide

[limber knot]

wdym

yes

i have a channel it uses

[void void]

you told the webhook to delivery messages to #discord

it has to be #discord

or rename it in config

to whatever channel is meant to receive the messages

[limber knot]

yes

i points to the right channel

on both irc and discord

[void void]

Ok well

Idk

[limber knot]

"641034265789988871": "#minusmc", // Add channel keys after the channel name the #minusmc is the irc channel and the id is the discord channel

[void void]

Open an issue and reach out to the creators

[limber knot]

ok what irc bot does this server use?

[void void]

idk it's something Z made its on his github

[limber knot]

ill try that

[void void]

https://github.com/zachbr/Dis4IRC

[limber knot]

ty

i have to runn this in screen or run it as a service right

[void void]

you could do either

[stuck badger]

i cant fine the java file

i cloned the repo

nvm

how do i make it use a password?

[void void]

password="yourpassword" in the irc{} section

[void void]

https://github.com/zachbr/Dis4IRC/blob/master/src/main/kotlin/io/zachbr/dis4irc/bridge/pier/irc/IrcPier.kt#L35

also Z, is that meant to be Peer u noob

[stuck badger]

https://pastebin.com/p1Fszgsc

[void void]

nice you fucked up the config

[stuck badger]

oof

[pulsar wigeon]

just like everything else in life

[stuck badger]

^

oh it the config i made there wasnt ' around the channel mappings

[void void]

k

[stuck badger]

ill just copy from the repo

[void void]

k

[upper flicker]

And no, it isn’t

[void void]

👀

[upper flicker]

Fucking kids

[stuck badger]

oof

[void void]

Why you calling me a kid

[stuck badger]

must have removed em lmao

[void void]

wut

[static badge]

what'd you boys do to get z riled up

[void void]

i called him a noob

but we all know there is no bigger noob than our very own @stuck badger

[static badge]

what is an irc pier

[void void]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pulsar wigeon]

it's a place where the irc ship takes off and lands

duh

[static badge]

or an irc peer

[stuck badger]

it wasnt

            "712345611123456811"="#bridgedChannel"``` it was
```channel-mappings {
            712345611123456811=#bridgedChannel```

[void void]

congrats

[stuck badger]

ty

[upper flicker]

does anyone take “fucking kids” seriously?

Other than the FBI

[static badge]

jeffery epstein did

[stuck badger]

XD

oh

[upper flicker]

That’s just going to be a mega oofers comment yeah

[static badge]

you asked

[upper flicker]

context

[static badge]

wat

[woven otter]

Z

[upper flicker]

wat

[woven otter]

watt

[static badge]

wattt

[stuck badger]

can i make the bot do cmds on start?

ie msg NickServ identify <password>.

oh nvm it worked

[16:27:56] [default] [ERROR] - Unable to get a discord channel for: 641034265789988871 | Is bot present? what is the channel id and the bot is in the server

bot isnt online tho

nice it works now

[cosmic raft]

whee

need to go for an x-ray and blood tests

[static badge]

wat for

[cosmic raft]

my finger

[static badge]

what occured to ur finger

[cosmic raft]

it hurts

and doctor doesn't know why

called it strange

[latent valve]

oof

[static badge]

he couldn't point his finger at the problem you mean

gl fixing it

[latent valve]

🔪

[left swift]

we got 10 fingers surely won't miss a finger or two

[limber knot]

DiscordBot_> <S​ta​rc​hy​> Dop I leave for a couple hours wtf did you do

[cosmic raft]

good lord

just test for everything why don't you

there's like

14 checkboxes checked on the blood tests form

i blame @static badge

[static badge]

getting tested for aids?

[cosmic raft]

literally everything it seems, from standard hematology to thyroid to standard things like sodium/potassium

[cosmic raft]

damnit

1h30m for chinese food

nevermind :(

[tame pendant]

ugh, i hate moving a server with so much data

[limber knot]

^

[tame pendant]

Takes hours! And my world is relatively small

[golden gust]

#RsyncMasterRace

[woven otter]

no need to move a server if you shut it down permanently

[golden gust]

then mek sur 2 delet urself

[woven otter]

u first

[vestal jasper]

alright time to ban kash for xray

[cosmic raft]

no @vestal jasper that's not how it works

[vestal jasper]

too late

ur banned

[cosmic raft]

i'm the one being x-rayed, not the one x-raying

[vestal jasper]

sorry can't undo it

server policy :)

[latent valve]

just use an alt ez pz xD

[vestal jasper]

rude

[cosmic raft]

you're the rude one

[pulsar wigeon]

are we kicking people

can i join in

[latent valve]

no wiz go back to sleep!

[cosmic raft]

yes, kick @vestal jasper

[vestal jasper]

I'm not the person who's using xray

please if you're going to fuck me at least take me out to dinner first

I'm not as much of a whore as @heady spear

[cosmic raft]

i already ate

[vestal jasper]

I have standards

[cosmic raft]

no you don't

[vestal jasper]

:(

[cosmic raft]

hi phanatic

[shell vine]

zip it then ship it takes like 5 mins

[woven otter]

wiz could kick user with this id: 89835805933076480 ?

[unreal quarry]

inb4 176340309574156289 gets kicked instead

[full silo]

Is 1.15 notoriously slow?

[unreal quarry]

not any worse than 1.14

[vestal jasper]

aka yes

[full silo]

So 1.14+ is slow for startup?

[unreal quarry]

why does everyone care about startup times so much, like for real

[full silo]

I noticed a startup impact of 110 seconds on JDK 13

And 52 on JDK 11

[unreal quarry]

thats the most pointless thing to spend time stressing over

[full silo]

Yeah except for when you're between reboots and it takes a good two minutes to get everything back up

[vestal jasper]

but I can't play on me mc surver for 3 minoots D:

[full silo]

When you're trying to work fast, startup times are a major delay

Not even trying to play, just trying to do setup

[unreal quarry]

if 2 minutes of downtime is damaging to your server, something is very wrong

[static badge]

I disable spawn chunk loading and that works well enough for me

[full silo]

I used to be able to start 1.13 in 8 seconds using JDK 11

8 -> 51 is a large jump

[unreal quarry]

yeah, and the chunk loading differences is a huge jump

its expected

[full silo]

Sounds like chunk loading is a huge unoptimized pile of garbage

[unreal quarry]

you must be new here

[full silo]

Not in the slightest

[vestal jasper]

fairly certain they are

[unreal quarry]

chunks are the laggiest thing in minecraft. nothing new there

[vestal jasper]

if you have stepped foot in here for more than 2 seconds since the release of 1.14 you'd know extremely well how optimized and performant 1.14 is

[serene bolt]

if your server launch time is very important to you, disable spawn chunks in your worlds and it will load significantly faster

[unreal quarry]

btw, if you've played single player since 1.14 was released you'd be familiar with the square loading thingie that takes forever

yeah, thats the server loading chunks on startup

[serene bolt]

yup, why they chose to do that square instead of like a loading bar or something a normal user would understand i have no idea

[full silo]

because cube game

[serene bolt]

but a loading bar would probably be useless, since they still do 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% on the loading percentages

[unreal quarry]

well, have you noticed the colors in the square? one color will fill up first, while another one has to catch up

the server does this too, but it seens the progressbar is for the first thing

no idea what they are, but theres 2 things loading

[serene bolt]

every system in minecraft is so overly engineered and cryptic, who even knows

[unreal quarry]

ikr lol

[static badge]

it's likely showing the status - loading, loaded, ticking, entity ticking

[unreal quarry]

well, whatever it is, the server console outputs the % of the first thing, which is why it shows 100% a few dozen times before its done

[woven otter]

it's likely retarded

[shell vine]

[unreal quarry]

its ok, phanaticd. 1.16 will save us

runs away

[woven otter]

.pray

[limber knot]

Fix Version/s: Future Version - 1.15+

[serene bolt]

maybe all of the new lag in 1.16 will be contained to the nether, and then we'll just have to tell people to disable their nether to improve performance

[pulsar wigeon]

what about the old lag tho

[serene bolt]

we just accept that and wait for 1.17, which will of course fix it!

[unreal quarry]

and if that fails us, 1.18

[static badge]

[pulsar wigeon]

do you guys remember when people thought that 2.0 would come after 1.9

[woven otter]

the problems of the current version will be fixed in the next version 😏

[serene bolt]

Minecraft 2

[hard kernel]

quack

[woven otter]

no u

[pulsar wigeon]

🗡️ 🦆

[woven otter]

bully

kick urself

[vestal jasper]

I remember people calling mojang retarded for "not knowing how numbers work"

[static badge]

mfw

[vestal jasper]

"1.10 isn't a thing it's 2.0 learn how numbers work"

[rare herald]

2.0 obviously comes after 1.99

[static badge]

3.0 is after 1.99

[woven otter]

no after 1.9969

[latent valve]

1.999999999999999999....9999

[woven otter]

it needs more nines

[static badge]

2.0 is enough nines

[full silo]

What they should have complained about is not that 1.10 is not a real number

[pulsar wigeon]

they should have just released 1.99

[full silo]

But moreso that 1.10.x is not a number

[pulsar wigeon]

then 1.999

[full silo]

What is this bukkit resourcemanager

I've not really stayed up to date with minecraft features except for the blocks and nonsense

[woven otter]

1.15.1 will kill my computer

[shell vine]

how can a number have TWO decimal points tho

[full silo]

TFW the server sticks around at [22:24:15 INFO]: Reloading ResourceManager: Default, bukkit

Currently 22:43

Still that line

[tame pendant]

I'm moving my server and since it's taking so long to move and so many files, trying to cancel the ones that I probably won't need and that can quickly regenerate if needed. so I have some questinos
Whats is world/poi and world/stats