over the amount of server owners complaining "boo lag"
#general
pulsar wigeon
main cargo
Dont players notice the lack of 1.15.1 large servers since the owners are to scared to go past 1.12???
static badge
players do want 1.15 over 1.12
main cargo
Yes but owners cant. If you throw 200 players on a single world on plugin filled 1.15.1 server it's going to be tough to get it to run at full speed, am I wrong?
static badge
never said you're wrong about that
main cargo
No I mean like seriously is there 1.15.1 servers with that many players running at 20tps
Like I'm not sure if its possible
main cargo
Unfortunately that is true. They are on bedrock because they are driven to it via Microsoft's advertising
However once a player wants a more custom server. They start looking at java servers or single player mods
static badge
wouldn't mind if they dropped java dev tbh 
main cargo
Problem is bedrock is Microsofts pet. They want money from it. Including micro transactions for content, which free mods and apis would hinder sales
Bedrock has packs that contain dozens of maps and mobs that will never see traditional survival mode. Even if the mob is logically sound for broad use. Like deer and such
static badge
interesting
main cargo
I honestly get pissed whenever I log into bedrock mc.
It's not going to help java servers in the long run at all.
However them releasing the bedrock api is a big step
Technically now it's easier for devs to pick it up and make other api's
static badge
wasn't that in js
static badge
dunno how well bedrock performs
main cargo
It really seems bedrock is too wild to code a api around right now.
static badge
heard it's just as dumb but has more black magic hiding it all
main cargo
They are changing it entirely so fast that it's a pain I would assume
It seems it's going to be more of a data pack driven server software rather than plugin driven
I mean for modding at least
Or they might wrap it all up tight once it's out of the alpha stages to the point it cant be easily modified. I'm not sure
I thought the bees were going to be exclusive to java version, but bedrock got it at the same time
So much for bees being the apology for jacking up 1.14 java so bad
static badge
don't think that was the intention
main cargo
Yeah it was only a thought some had for a bit, obviously it held no water
Thing is a user isnt going to stay with a game crippled by bugs, so content must be added to get them back on after
That is, if they care about that slight loss at all
I think bedrock was fine during that drama tho
So it wasnt affecting their main playerbase
The delay of 1.14 for java was painfully long, and met with a awful release
Wait which version was the delay... was it 1.14 or one before it...
Welp regardless hopefully the updates for bedrock and java are closer together from now on. The bee update seemed to be.
static badge
it certainly seemed to 🐝
unreal minnow
rugged pine
stuck badger
What is travertine?
Oh ok
Anyone know how to setup smtp server on pterodactyl panel
I can't figure it out
I have it using mailtrap.io as the smtp server
queen rapids
void void
im literally so suck at cities skylines
my residents hate me
ive already earned the hated mayor achievement
@stuck badger it's in the .env file
follow the setup guide, there is a whole section on how to set up mail
copper ferry
stuck badger
That's what I fucking did
void void
the start of the guide even says, dont just copy and paste
you need a little bit of brain
stuck badger
It doesn't show u how to set up the actual username and password
Also mailtrap is a email test service
void void
run the command.
stuck badger
Ok one sec I have to ssh
void void
it literally says to setup a custom smtp server select smtp in the command's options after you run it.
stuck badger
My god
You have to make an account in an smtp server site and get those
The username and password for it
void void
no shit, how else do you think you're going to send mail
stuck badger
Through my ass
void void
you can also just use gmail's smtp server from your own gmail account look up how to find the credentials
but you'll likely get sent to spam
if you're trying to start a host, which i dont recommend since you cant seem to read, you'll want a professional email server
like mailgun or amazon ses
stuck badger
I have mailgun
stuck badger
Most of this is waiting for the person that owns the domain to set it up
void void
sure
copper ferry
I don't know if this is the right server to ask, if not sorry, but im hosting a small server with friends and I was wondering if you guys know a way to enable silk touching spawners placed by players, but not ones that spawn naturally.
Thanks.
stuck badger
ptero:~# php artisan p:environment:mail Could not open input file: artisan
root@ptero:~# I can't use that command because I've already setup the panel
void void
you can use it after you've set up the panel, you just fucked something up
go to ptero support, let them deal with you
void void
congratulations
safe adder
heady spear
I just slept for 12h, bless the Lord.
void void
which Lord
heady spear
I also dreamed that I got kidnapped by an old lady that forced me to bathe in a park
She seemed nice though
Idk pick one
void void
kidnapped
forced to bathe in a park
she seemed nice
limber knotBOT
repressed memories
heady spear
My switch won’t arrive until Monday I am sad cry cry
astral marsh
Have anyone been testing Diamond Anticheat? As said on spigot page, it detects almost all hacked clients and mods I'd choose
void void
never heard of it
astral marsh
limber knotBOT
Looks crap
Oh it's from that dude
I reported his shit for stupid licence checks before
I would stay away
heady spear
"1) Do not decompile the plugin." ah yes
woven otter
yes that works
heady spear
ur brain does not tho because ur dumber than a rock
woven otter
ur dum city because you assume rocks are sentient
astral marsh
@woven otter do you have it running on a server so I can check if it's easy to bypass?
woven otter
have what?
woven otter
u dont
heady spear
omg can someone give one to me
woven otter
no
heady spear
but i want pp
woven otter
2bad
heady spear
😦
woven otter
oh leaf is back
heady spear
leafy<3
golden gust
I somehow managed to fall asleep for like an hour or so, not that it did much, now I gotta get outta bed and that's just a tiring thought
Is simple around? Hearing about his life often makes mine feel better
quasi valley
@void void
olive garden
wow
quasi valley
runs
golden gust
They say like 26 minutes, given how long a sleep cycle lasts; I just did a dumb and went for a walk yesterday morning
heady spear
lul u can't even sleep properly
golden gust
I knew it was gonna hit me, just, didn't expect it to hit me like a brick to the face
I mean, I shoulda known it would have, but like, am smert
quasi valley
sleep with opened eyes so noone notices
quasi valley
again?
olive garden
what time is it for you?
quasi valley
😂
golden gust
I mean, It's either again or he never stopped
Which, I guess with simple is a valid question as it could easily be either
void void
i stopped long enough to not be drunk and just hungover as absolute hell during christmas day
olive garden
that doesn't sound like a good idea
void void
thank u trigary
void void
liver needed a litttttttle break
golden gust
What liver?
void void
hey it might be destroyed but its sorta there
granite salmon
Nice
limber knotBOT
How am I supposed to be drunk already?! 😂
golden gust
Clearly you're not even trying
void void
mini thats quitter talk
limber knotBOT
Need to move ma car later
void void
ive moved my car while fucking blasted
got out and went to bed, woke up and found it half on the sidewalk and half on the street
limber knotBOT
Meeting up with a friend and she lives at the fucking other end of the world
granite salmon
Sounds like excuses
limber knotBOT
Yeah you can't do that here, police finds you
limber knotBOT
Am also close to a station so nokthx
granite salmon
smh simple
limber knotBOT
Not fine
void void
Maybe it is
limber knotBOT
Find
void void
limber knotBOT
Like, they be lurking around and stopping ur drunk ass
balmy phoenix
limber knotBOT
Suuure
woven otter
how many drunks here
limber knotBOT
Last time I got stopped it was a woman, it was midnight and I just came from swimming, so my eyes were all red
She had no chill, thought I was high and stuff
vestal jasper
I don't have work today and I have vodka
limber knotBOT
Went around, tried to search my car etc
Only got her off my ass when I showed her my wet swimming stuff, lol
vestal jasper
time to become another channel drunk
limber knotBOT
I don't even really get drunk most of the time
void void
the difference between you and me
is that i'd actually be high
but id have wet swimming clothes just to get her off my ass
limber knotBOT
Last time I got really drunk was in summer 😂
The Korean publisher of pubg threw a party, alc for free the whole night
Which turned out to be a lie since vodka was out at 3am
void void
i thought pubg was indie
olive garden
> free alcohol
> drinks Vodka
olive garden
I guess
olive garden
what brand?
limber knotBOT
I can drink vodka pur
olive garden
(of vodka)
void void
drinking pure vodka is the true way to drink vodka
only use it in mixed drinks when it's trash grade
trash grade = it literally makes you convulse when you swallow it
good vodka = yum :)
limber knotBOT
Well, I gotta get my energy somehow
And drinking stuff without alc is a waste of bladder space
So vodka e it is
limber knotBOT
Am no expert in vodka brands, Smirnoff is stuff we always got a kids
Not sure what they have in clubs here
When we were really young and no money we got "Fürst uranov", 5 euro a bottle (0.7)
Man that shit was baaaad
woven otter
> vodka
> yum
vernal moth
I have such amazing pics from Malle, am the guy in the back right side
No clue who that old man was
It's what we found next day on our phones
Funny thing is, multiple groups of ppl have a pic with him
limber knotBOT
maybe he just snacced some alc from all of you
Oooh
He better be ded now then
Nobody steals my alc
😂
That was 2015 😂
Just after we were done with school, went with 50 ppl, was amazing
But man, am too old for that shit now
Like, we were a week, I don't think I was sober for longer than an hour
lol
I love the French https://twitter.com/dmbldrstrbt/status/1210224912247468032
"C'EST PAS POSSIBLE"
(title is "the boy wished for minecraft...")
vague thicket
olive garden
wat
olive garden
maybe the Germans don't know about the book
olive garden
wait, is Mini from Germany? I always forget whether he's from Germany or our sweet brother, Austria
limber knotBOT
Austria
Uuuuf
I think just a few years ago it's actually been released
Non annotated?
I blame Bavaria
ah no, a new annotated edition
olive garden
what does an annotated edition mean?
limber knotBOT
"what he writes in this line is actually bad, don't do it"
I imagine
😂
No clue actually
We had unannotated snippets in history books
limber knotBOT
And no, am neither from Bavaria not from Austria, am from actual good parts of Germany
West Germany, cologne
runic reef
golden gust
Welp, appointment with the GP booked for tuesday; Apparently last time I went I was supposed to get forms for a vitd test but only got one for some other stuff, so; fun
void void
wat is vitd
golden gust
vitamin d
void void
cant you test that at home
golden gust
nop
void void
rip
golden gust
worse part is is that it takes like 3 weeks to get the results
void void
dum
woven otter
ask city for some vitamin D
vestal jasper
@heady spear
peak dirge
But isn't City supposed to be working on peace in the Middle East? 
void void
what a hero
vestal jasper
mfw I decided to go to sleep last night with a half finished method and idk wtf I was planning on doing in it
oh I remember why it was half finished, I gave up
void void
cuz ur fukin noob
vestal jasper
thanks
vestal jasper
I'm doing this to be less noob tbh
woven otter
fucking nub
limber knotBOT
absolute scrub
vestal jasper
clean room implementing collections
"Make or fill an array of a different object type than that of the List's"
vestal jasper
public <T1> T1[] toArray(T1[] a) I'm implementing this.
My List is of type T not T1
limber knotBOT
INGENIOUS
void void
yea so pre much what i just said
vestal jasper
List
it's not complaining about me changing it which I like
it's prob IDEA being retarded moreso than List
void void
is it java's List or you're making your own
void void
well, from what it looks like, your method is specifying itself as generic so yea, it doesnt give af what you call the generic type
void void
correct
vestal jasper
https://stackoverflow.com/a/15422281
interesting
limber knotBOT
I hate it when an RTS game has no contrast for units and everything just sort of melts together
heady spear
Hi babes I just made waffles
limber knotBOT
are they blue?
heady spear
Stop being nasty
woven otter
are they burnt
limber knotBOT
never babe
limber knotBOT
weird question
woven otter
how can you tell
limber knotBOT
do you guys feel like stories these days are more focused on characters than on events compared to stories from a few decades ago?
heady spear
I've eaten too many waffles
limber knotBOT
like, if I see a random netflix space movie the thing I immediately get from the trailer is that the series has very little to do with space travel and is almost entirely space drama
same with zombie series
olive garden
Ad Astra, For All Mankind seems to focus on humans
cedar spade
Probably
olive garden
The Expanse books are balanced between events and characters, not sure about the series
limber knotBOT
honestly I have a hard time pointing out a single series made in the last 10 years that isn't about the character but rather about an event
heady spear
wtf cdon sent my sd card but not the fucking switch
limber knotBOT
or a movie
olive garden
The Martian is not about characters if I remember correctly
heady spear
like wtf am I gonna do this with this dumb card? put it up my ass and pretend I'm a camera?
limber knotBOT
except for documentary-style stuff (and even then)
the martian is huuuugely about the character
heady spear
The martian is nearly entirely about the dude lmao
heady spear
great movie tho, matt damon is fucking daddy
limber knotBOT
yeah it's a banger
olive garden
Interstellar is about the characters as well
limber knotBOT
I'd let him bang weeb while I watch from a closet
heady spear
matt damon is fucking daddy in interstellar too
heady spear
The 100 is teenage drama but it partly takes place in space
I think you're onto something here beardie
limber knotBOT
no shit
the walking dead is about a bunch of people dicking each other over
and at the end of a season they have to move because suddenly zombies became a threat again
heady spear
the witcher is porn with way too much dialogue
my sister and her husband forced me to watch it with them, so awkward
heady spear
the witcher + random people having sex + loads of boobs
vestal jasper
city write tests for me
limber knotBOT
except not really, it's more about cirilla and the war against nilfgard but I don't think the series will commit to that bit
limber knotBOT
it's a european book, it doesn't care for the more puritan american style of story telling
Woo boobs
turns out medieval fantasy had lots of boobs and sex and weird creatures and a lot of the time all three things at once
heady spear
Vic I'm in agonizing pain after eating too much junk food so I'm not gonna do shit for u
someone should make a good eragon movie
heady spear
the inheritance cycle is so good
vestal jasper
:(
heady spear
but the movie was sooooo awful
heady spear
When I was like 12 lol
limber knotBOT
yeah
don't reread it
and don't ask for a movie that actually follows the plot
it's, uh, not good
vestal jasper
I like how this method returns a boolean and IDEA is bitching that it's returning false during certain conditions
heady spear
I mean half of the series is them walking through the desert
vestal jasper
specifically that it's breaking contracts by returning false
limber knotBOT
that's unfair
vestal jasper
the fuck
limber knotBOT
99% of the series is people using their powers inefficiently and clearly failing to see some of the larger exploits
heady spear
bruh try learning magic yourself
limber knotBOT
bruh if magic were real I'd be a fucking grandmaster wizard for sure
heady spear
the main problem with the series was that the quality got progressively worse after the first book, and that the ending is retarded as fuck
limber knotBOT
the whole thing was retarded from the start
well maybe not quite the start
the opening was pretty good
but the second they leave it gets pants on head retarded
heady spear
maybe I shouldn't re-read it and just pretend it's good
limber knotBOT
yeah
heady spear
idk if I even have them anymore
limber knotBOT
there's a lot that doesn't make sense
like
why didn't the dude start learning magic from the first minute
sure it was meant to be learned later on but it's not like he was ever going to get traditionally trained
heady spear
Either way, the movie was awful.
limber knotBOT
oh yeah
it's the worst movie adaptation I've ever seen of anything ever
hey remember when in the movie they go to the dwarven kingdom and meet all the dwarves?
yeah, me neither
heady spear
how not to be wrong by Jordan Ellenberg is rather good my dudes
limber knotBOT
you know, watching that movie felt like a complete fever dream
I remember watching the whole thing, leaving the theater and literally remembering nothing about it aside from how bad it was
heady spear
also a mind for numbers by dr. oakley, recommend!
limber knotBOT
so I decided to rewatch it again some years later, exact same thing
heady spear
yeah ik I was pretty damn excited when it was released
because those books were my favorite as a kiddo
limber knotBOT
that movie just won't stick to my memory, I just have no way to remember any specific scene
heady spear
they made the dragon look half decent tho
limber knotBOT
not really
and looking at the screen caps it really doesn't look like it holds up either lol
heady spear
"Technically competent, but essentially a fantasy movie that mistakes industrial light for magic. As dragon movies go, Dragonslayer, Reign Of Fire and even Dragonheart can rest easy."
"For a movie about flying dragons, "Eragon" is disappointingly flatfooted."
lmao
heady spear
the cast was weird 2
16% on rotten tomatoes lmao
"Give Eragon a few years: By then, it might be delightfully bad." :]
limber knotBOT
speaking of mismatched titles, I gotta say "is it wrong to pick up girls from a dungeon" is a deceiving title
where the mc doesn't pick up girls in general but also not from a dungeon
he can't even talk to them most of the time
heady spear
by the by, are the witcher games worth playing
limber knotBOT
the witcher 3 is one of my most played games
a lot of people complained about the combat but honestly I don't really see why
the world building is sort of unparalleled
won a shitload of awards for it
heady spear
o
vestal jasper
i'm not a fan of the combat but I'm also retarded and impatient
heady spear
true
limber knotBOT
and honestly the voice actor they got for geralt is so good I never got tired of hearing him talk even after 221 hours
I think the combat is fine for an rpg
maybe a bit too easy once you get into the swing of things
I beat the final boss of the base game in a single try on death march new game + without ever getting hit
heady spear
I want a game where you don't control the characters and don't make any choices and just watch them do their thing
limber knotBOT
that's called youtube let's plays
golden gust
mfw
heady spear
I'd also like for it to be on a blu-ray disc
golden gust
What's a disc?
limber knotBOT
sure just stare at a blank wall
golden gust
I do that when I wanna understand what goes through simples mind
heady spear
starting at a blank wall is a bit too complex
limber knotBOT
stare into the abyss and the abyss might stare back at you
heady spear
you should just shut off your brain entirely
limber knotBOT
but then you risk becoming like weeb and not be able to turn it back on
limber knotBOT
well I'm glad to say that you're not at risk
void void
well i turned on sandbox mode, and tried to play cities skyline. somehow a nuclear power plant is unable to sustain the city
so
i named it WTF City and then quit the game
good luck bitches
limber knotBOT
Gj you suck at cities skyline
limber knotBOT
0/10
void void
and here i thought i was doing a good job
bronze wraith
tracking worldedit with coreprotect is horrible. project hasn't started yet, 9 million rows of block data in database.
void void
coreprotect is just kinda shitty in general
vestal jasper
I don't like rolling back player heads and having literally none of their data persist tbh
you just get an entire room of steve heads
vestal jasper
oh also if someone kills villagers and you rollback the deaths you get completely new villagers with completely new trades
void void
logblock used to be bae, but nah coreprotect is pretty much the thing rn
so
we gotta deal with it
heady spear
bronze wraith
Just looked at logblock again, seems to be updated for 1.15
I thought it had been discontinued or something
void void
i havent used it in a loooooong time so cant comment
heady spear
void void
city stop trying to give me a seizure
heady spear
is it wörking
void void
almost
heady spear
bronze wraith
I'm already sagging of my chair
vestal jasper
with a log?
void void
yes
bronze wraith
pretty old thread
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/logblock-vs-coreprotect.14759/
heady spear
I found a website where you can watch russian girls talk to their webcams
void void
city, wtf
heady spear
it's very cute
heady spear
I wanna send them money for their education
void void
thats what they want you to do too
heady spear
and also clothes because they clearly can't afford it
this girl can't even afford a top, it's so sad 😦
void void
lmfao
heady spear
aw someone gave her money and now she's screaming out of happiness
limber knotBOT
gags and ties Cityweebstret then throws them off a cliff.
limber knotBOT
gags and ties Cityweebstret then throws them off a tall building to their death.
limber knotBOT
rips Cityweebstret's intestines and uses them as a skipping rope.
void void
ok
bronze wraith
.kill nurlennart
limber knotBOT
slices nurlennart's limbs off with a rusty scythe.
vestal jasper
.lart Cityweebstreet
limber knotBOT
drops creepers on Cityweebstreet's house.
vestal jasper
no
heady spear
woven otter
no u
quasi valley
yes u
woven otter
no u
quasi valley
yes me
left swift
Covfefe
eager lichen
heady spear
I just wanna let y'all know that @woven otter is in love with me
left swift
Nice
woven otter
no u r
limber knotBOT
that moment when you see a deal that is just too good to be true
limber knotBOT
quit your job
cosmic raft
I want to
cosmic raft
No, I want $2 more per hour
woven otter
get a sugar daddy
limber knotBOT
I'll pay you $1 per day
heady spear
ok I can do that
limber knotBOT
but you have to work 24/7
woven otter
is what I wanted to say
cosmic raft
tired of this shit
heady spear
I found out my grandma inherited a fuck tonne of money yesterday. Apparently we're loaded now
cosmic raft
nice
cosmic raft
sadly I can't really quit until I have a new job to go to
limber knotBOT
I really like the mentality of "my parents are rich hence I'm rich"
it always leads to really fun and fulfilling lives
heady spear
wdym just get some money from ur bank account
idk why people work tbh seems like a lot of effort
limber knotBOT
steal all the packages flip them on ebay and flee the country
cosmic raft
I'm not rich
limber knotBOT
retire
heady spear
Kill someone and send their feet to different Canadian party offices
o wait some dude did that already
hm
cosmic raft
mk well
we'll see if I'm still working here by the end of the day
that's how much I don't like it here now
went from loving it here to hating it in a day last week
or this week rather
cosmic raft
bye for now
limber knotBOT
holy shit I just found a harry potter wax seal on amazon
it loks so fresh
shame I have literally no use for it
indigo oyster
amber agate
heady spear
the entire aladdin movie feels like a parody
limber knotBOT
the live action weeb?
heady spear
ye
heady spear
wat
gray elbow
limber knotBOT
limber knotBOT
you're not ready for this level of nitro boosting
void void
silk kindle
limber knotBOT
oh man this keeps getting better
so I'ma need the mail addresses of everyone on the paper team for a thing unrelated to those links
can someone dm those to me real quick? thanks
heady spear
three dimensional hips
limber knotBOT
finally bringing those waifus out of 2d
heady spear
Lncrease (sic) lift buttock achievement
sexy figure
relatively thin, can not better show the male charm
such a shame
why is his package steaming
limber knotBOT
clearly you know nothing of the male anatomy
my package is so hot steam's coming off of it all the time
I sometimes shove vegetables in these for pressure cooking purposes
heady spear
I can't say I've ever experienced that
limber knotBOT
that's because you've never been at peak male performance
left swift
Haven't met the right person yet then
heady spear
ngl jafar is pretty hot
I'd let him stick that snake staff in various different places
limber knotBOT
that's because ur a slut
static badge
this went 0 to gay real fast
pliant bay
pliant bay
okay so I have no idea how to do anything on paper. I just need to set up /sethome and /home and stuff in survival, how do I do that?
how do I even apply paper to mc?
pulsar wigeon
go google some basic bukkit server guides
only cuz he's copying the whole thing
you omly need amazon.tld/dp/ITEMCODE/ and the rest is extra
waxen prairie
olive garden
Does anyone know whether stefvanschie is still alive?
pulsar wigeon
👀
olive garden
I'm too afraid of you
heady spear
spam ping him in cv instead
olive garden
A single ping and saying that his family is amish made him appear
austere ivy
leaf would you say that overall 1.15(.x) would be an improvement of performance over 1.14(.x)?
austere ivy
alright. does the entity despawn tick check make a big impact?
austere ivy
hm okay, so would 1.15(.x) be a decrease on performance?
golden gust
They fixed many performance outliners
austere ivy
or just about the same?
static badge
no
golden gust
Nothing more, nothing less
(and by "many" i mean a handful)
e.g. AI being super stupid
Now it's just stupid
austere ivy
alright thank you, I think I'll upgrade once all the plugins I need work on 1.15, it seems like performance wise doesn't make that big of a difference but we'll see.
golden gust
Not really seen any hurt over 1.14, but I don't run a server atm because health, and in part, that feels more like a blessing than a curse
austere ivy
I don't understand how they're adding things that would decrease performance though, I mean I get that it's Mojang but still they've been taking on some very capable developers
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austere ivy
favorite free JVM profiler?
golden gust
.bees
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golden gust
Performance is hard
Mojang also don't test on servers, so it's pretty hard to see how individual changes scale
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jvisualvm is what I use
austere ivy
they've got the creator of mcp, the creator of the aether, bla bla bla
I suppose they don't test on servers, they should though.
austere ivy
yeah anyway I think I'll upgrade to 1.15, seems about the same performance wise but for all those nice bugfixes
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visualvm was also a pain to get working by the way
golden gust
Imma go grab food before my last brain cell dies reading this
austere ivy
alright, any other free (good) java profilers?
golden gust
Literally never had any issues with visualvm
Just, it's not yourkit 😄
Try alternativeto? There ain't gonna be that many free profilers
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had some dumb issue with adoptopenjdk
can't use the profiler with it
the profiler profiler, not sampler
dunno all I know is that using the ancient 11.0.2 jdk on my system fixed that
oracle jdk*
adopt didn't work on 8 or 11
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Was this on 
though
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yes
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Pffffft
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what
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Pretty sure I’ve used adopt with the profiler without issues
But I don’t run winders
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austere ivy
leaf do you use windows?
austere ivy
windows 10?
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yes
austere ivy
I honestly cannot imagine using windows 10, are you okay?
from the fact that it auto installs candy crush saga and Skype and other stuff, and have like 3 different places for "settings", and blloooatt
pulsar wigeon
just use warmroast Kappa
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They made the candy crush crap less aggressive
It’s mostly just new installs that get that now
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if overwatch comes out on linux ill switch
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For whatever that means
pulsar wigeon
just make an oss proj to get free yourkit license barty
austere ivy
If you buy a brand new computer and you get candy crush saga pre-installed I'd say that's pretty bloat-y.
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Should switch to a real os 
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templeos is literally a meme
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All windows pcs have bullshit preinstallrd
It’s just that MS is getting in on it now
austere ivy
macOS doesn't :D
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Ehhhh
austere ivy
Although, with Catalina they're doing the one thing I very hate: making everything super inconsistent.
They're doing something to port iPhone apps to macOS and it looks awful. Imagine an iPhone app, then scale it up, and that's your new macOS app.
They like making everything bigger and it's awful, like way way too big.
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Yeah that’s not how that’s intended to be used, looks in practice, or is even recommended
There are some that don’t look very desktop-y, but they don’t look like iPhone apps blown up on your screen either if the dev gives a shit
Their biggest issue with that system is all the undocumented stuff in it
austere ivy
I think it's called Catalyst.
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big warning
austere ivy
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Yes, so devs who care, devs who don’t
Just like on windows and Linux and all the other platforms
Well it’s desktop software
So like windows anyway
Big warning came true
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duh no shit profilers hit hard
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You uh know the difference between a profiler and a sampler right
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I'm gonna press x on that
u sure u didn't hit no
dunno try again
samplers don't murder servers
unless u were already at 10tps
in which case it wasn't anything you did
except update to 1.15 perhaps
austere ivy
I liked macOS because it was very consistent, while Windows 10 was really inconsistent. You had settings and control panel and you had windows 7 looking apps and windows 10 looking apps and it kinda all looks like garbage.
shell lion
bronze wraith
just launched a 30 player project on 1.15., couldn't run that with 1.14. happy now, haha.
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oh this is yourkit
so use yourkit
dunno use visualvm
i press sample button and it works
bronze wraith
@austere ivy because the performance was horrible, you could not play on it. tps would drop with 10 players.
austere ivy
oki doki I'll try 1.15
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you need to memory profile
and if you're on 1.15 I have a guess
same thing
1.14+
sampling is not memory profiling
wont work
heap dump does gc
idk my methods of debugging gc are retarded
it's "use memory profiling to take a guess"
fix the guess
and if it fixes the gc it was correct
are players generating chunks
well I would either enable gc debug or visualvm to find what's causing gc first
visualvm has a tool to view gc stuff without killing your server
it worked on adopt, the gc plugin at least
heady spear
when people put influencer in their insta bios when they've got 50 followers
bronze wraith
or entrepreneur in their twitter bios
I love that the server is just purring away with 30 players online. I shouldn't be so excited. lmao.
netdata is beautiful btw!
bronze wraith
true, but no huge cpu spikes is nice too.
I'm still not sure what really caused the lag on my 1.14. server, couldn't really look into it, as I had no real internet connection at that time.
Could have been the second world which wasn't wb filled.
heady spear
I started restricting NPC ticking quite heavily and that helped us a tonne
the benefit of not using citizens is that it's way easier to fine tune our plugin for better performance. I found that it was one of the main causes for issues at our server :]
also limiting dumb shit in chunks that don't need dumb shit
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you know citizens will load chunks
magic lynx
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and they will be sent and updated to them
along with tracking entities
wtf is that
wat you using it for
bronze wraith
I installed this EntityTrackerFixer too and it's doing its job nicely.
[EntityTrackerFixer] Untracked 179 entities in world
heady spear
citizens gave us poopoo results 🤷♀️
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I use visualvm
limber knotBOT
EntityTrackerFixer is an insane hack
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no
golden gust
More than likely he relies on local attach or jmx
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ye local attach
because it's retarded in some areas
wait until a new thread is started while you're sampling
you'll see how annoying that gets
golden gust
I don't really see how it's more complicated to attach?
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look we're retarded
stoic root
golden gust
Like, you either use jmx and have to toss a few flags on it, or you use local attach
you mean, like every other tool?
yourkit used an agent, or local attach
The agent is built into the jvm?
You have to configure flags to use yourkit
With visualvm, the thing you need to enable on the JVM is bundled with it
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reported
golden gust
slams face into desk
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u should paythen
is green old gen?
or is it orange
look I've never touched that profiler
fine it's orange
that's not too bad
if it just stays like that just allocate more old gen space
problemo solved
idk take a heap dump
does yourkit let you take one that can explore specific areas like young or new
yeah
idk what ur issues are
does gcing clear old gen
do a full gc
does it clear old gen
take a heap dump then
and most of the shit in there will be old gen
I'm pressing x on that one
golden gust
Is that actually running an old-gen, or is it just mixing in some old gen?
Coz, mixed is normal and basically good
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explicit gc should be a full
golden gust
(Well, "good" as in, "at least it's not an old gen")
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unless I am one with the retardation
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well as long as it's reporting time on old gen 
you also sure it's not a memory leak?
sure u literally have enough old gen space allocated for ur server's memory usage?
.wa 84557/132
golden gust
Yea, if that's running old gens and not cleaning up much, you either have a leak or your old-gen region is too small for your usage
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well take the heap dump when it's causing issues
you'
ll see from it whether it's a leak or you need more
well idk anything about ur server indicating memory usage so idk what that means
for 1 player that's trash tier, 50? probably not
yes that's technically what occurs
eventually what occurs
so wait until it causes issues and take the heap dump
golden gust
depends on the nature of the leak
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never heard of a leak that doesn't stay around for long
golden gust
Some leaks are slow to grow and will basically take hours to run over
Some leaks will all of a sudden baloon a shitton of mem
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tbh I categorise that as retarded memory allocation
if it gets de-allocated it's not a leak in my mind :>
memory issues don't go away on restarts unless something's really retarded
well I mean
get solved
yes if they're slow they'll be away temporarily
just take the heapdump and analyse it when it's causing issues
ull find ur answer there
that works
./paper heapbarty'sserverreallysucks
yeah
or tell them ur fixing it
like owner like player
true canyon
😦
heady spear
the subtitles in mr. robot when they're speaking danish/swedish are really weird lol
"hur då" - "how on earth did it do that?"
ah yes perfect
limber knotBOT
dansk er helt normalt
dat spoiler
runs
i managed to make a plugin get it loaded and spit out "hello world". except from reading the entire API, is there a set of examples to take look at?
what i want to do is to list the coordinates of all active players
limber knotBOT
and dump that into a file on the server
potent warren
golden gust
I actually ended up looking at that
I got like 361/229 chunks loaded there
was nice
potent warren
ermm?
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you'll always get more, they're required to be at entity ticking level
golden gust
Just, would be nice if they factored that into the calc
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they're retarded
autumn sage
golden gust
Imma go lie down before I facedesk my keyboard
limber knotBOT
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cedar spade
s/retarded/redarted
potent warren
that doesn't work here
cedar spade
no u
potent warren
no we
cedar spade
you don't work here
limber knotBOT
s/retarded/redarted
Correction, <DiscordBot> <06MD (not that one)> s/redarted/redarted
Lmao
potent warren
lul
cedar spade
brilliant
limber knotBOT
s/r retarded/r redarted
s/e retarded/e redarted
Correction, <DiscordBot> <12Spottedleaf> they're redarted https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/230802214090702852.png
Ha
cedar spade
there we go
limber knotBOT
I made it!
cedar spade
s/s//hello
potent warren
wat
cedar spade
no
potent warren
yes?
cedar spade
I don't know sed
amber cosmos
anyone know any fun ways to learn regular expressions?
pulsar wigeon
fun and regular expressions...
limber knotBOT
regular expressions are always fun. period.
pulsar wigeon
well, good luck
limber knotBOT
what do you want to match?
amber cosmos
u must be big math brain, Kale. : )
I don't need anything right now, I've just wanted to be able to write them for years.
I've tried to do exercises now and then.
limber knotBOT
writing regex is easy, writing something usefull is something else
amber cosmos
sed made me think of it. I'm just learning sed, and it's sooooper userful.
eventually I'll get on to Java and Minecraft code and THEN I'll really be bugging you all w my chatter haha
zealous knot
amber cosmos
haha what are YOU thinking about?
it was a d.
oh wait, that prolly doesn't help.
anyways, I was just popping in here looking for 1.15.2 chatter and I's got chatty.
imma fish.
.
what is kale, that they are a bot w no number?
amber cosmos
xD
limber knotBOT
where all the bad people go