general

[quasi valley]

lol

[patent wraith]

Do I need to change any settings when I upgrade from 1.14.4?

[crystal compass]

1.15 spigot ran much better than 1.14 for me

Even loading new chunks with many players flying maintained high tps

[vale patrol]

Just preload world lol

[void void]

"gnn gnn just preload"

even with preloading 1.14 was broken

loading and unloading chunks took too much time

[crystal compass]

^

[void void]

what are you going to do, keep all chunks loaded all the time ?

on the entire world ?

-_-

[void void]

it was an issue on both client & server

tps falling down to 12 by going to the end, yeet

[pulsar wigeon]

loading wasn't really changed, nor was it really the bottleneck

[void void]

I am talking of 1.14(.0)

[pulsar wigeon]

yes, i am

it wasn't changed between 1.14 and 1.15

[void void]

Because we were comparing first days of 1.14 and 1.15

about stability

🤡

[upper flicker]

[heady spear]

wooooo paper 1.15 yay sexy

[placid thicket]

1.16 paper when?

[fallen oracle]

Interesting.

Went down quicker than I expected.

[heady spear]

o yay no performance

[fallen oracle]

That was me just running around on speed 10

[heady spear]

I hate it when my world has too many ticks

[fallen oracle]

Nah it's not pregenned.

[heady spear]

but is it pregenned tho

[quasi valley]

proingont?

[fallen oracle]

Hmm, alright.

That would make sense.

[pulsar wigeon]

yea idk why people think things changed so much

[balmy shuttle]

mmm thin paper

[unique torrent]

SCATMAN'S WORLD 2: THE GAME

[void void]

Because people were able to have a stable server on 1.12 and then it went garbage

for no absolute reason

eating all the cpu

and lagging

so there's a reason

[upper flicker]

:mojang:

apparently no mojang emote in here

have to work on that

[pulsar wigeon]

doesn't explain why people think 1.15 fixed chunks

[quasi valley]

[void void]

never said 1.15 fixed chunks

[unique torrent]

@upper flicker

[void void]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pulsar wigeon]

well that's what i was fucking talking about

[void void]

1.15 fixed things

but not chunks

🤦‍♂️

I'm giving up

[upper flicker]

aaaaaand added

[quasi valley]

nice

[void void]

[fallen oracle]

Ahh, I do see that the world loads faster.

[patent wraith]

Right, did a setting exist related to spawning bee nests in pre-genned chunks, or an I confused?

[upper flicker]

not afaik

I know some people very much wanted that

[pulsar wigeon]

this isn't forge lol

why would mojang do retrogen

[upper flicker]

given the last time they did was with the underwater temples

and it kinda fucked up a lot and did stupid shit

[frigid ferry]

[20:15:44 INFO]: Villager EntityVillager['Villager'/666, uuid='8885beb2-abb7-4f4f-a29b-aca4ce356ed8', l='world', x=367.50, y=70.00, z=88.38, cx=22, cz=5, tl=734, v=true, d=false] died, message: 'Villager was slain by StealWonders'
[20:15:57 INFO]: Villager EntityVillager['Villager'/670, uuid='0e35837e-e940-440e-bcdf-2c3860314b2c', l='world', x=345.22, y=67.94, z=108.41, cx=21, cz=6, tl=983, v=true, d=false] died, message: 'Villager was slain by StealWonders'

[austere ivy]

@spare venture since when did you get mod

[upper flicker]

gonna say they're not in a big hurry to test it again on forests with one block items like that

[frigid ferry]

Is this a debug message?

[austere ivy]

oh you're just

[frigid ferry]

Or a bug

[austere ivy]

oh okay

[quasi valley]

a flying duck :o @woven otter https://i.imgur.com/AwdIipU.png

[patent wraith]

Yeah, okay, that's a reason why I don't pre-gen chunks.

[austere ivy]

so how is 1.15 paper in terms of stability, has anyone tried it yet?

[tawdry coyote]

uh

[woven otter]

shhhh

[tawdry coyote]

ima take a shot and say not super stable

[woven otter]

that nickname got me banned on hypixel

idk why

[fallen oracle]

Yeah the rendering of chunks on the client does seem to be a lot quicker.

[pulsar wigeon]

yes, it should

that's actually one of the things they specifically said they fixed

with an entire explanation on fps capping and chunk rendering

[tawdry coyote]

yk one of the questions i have is whether that means, the falling-through-the-world issue is fixed with async chunk loading.

[unique torrent]

Wait async wasn't in earlier versions?

[tawdry coyote]

i've had it with players with super high latency and while the server is shittin itself

[austere ivy]

Ooh so 3 dimensional biomes, how's that working?

[quasi valley]

4x4x4 areas sent in the chunk packet

prolly just in preparation for 1.16

[pulsar wigeon]

yea it's unused atm

(by the generator)

[quasi valley]

no cave update yet tho ;(

[woven otter]

cave update

lel

[bleak apex]

What is this in my console?

[pulsar wigeon]

because you didn't update your plugins

[bleak apex]

So, okay, thx

[mortal zinc]

so @slim nymph have you recently done some collab with mojang on some of their issues? i know you've done so in the past

[slim nymph]

does a virtual middle finger count

[quasi valley]

not as much as a real middle finger, but still a bit

[slim nymph]

https://giphy.com/gifs/XyIBLhXPveD8k

mojang dun goofed

[mortal zinc]

aw

well hey

[pulsar wigeon]

wow

haven't seen that one in a while

[mortal zinc]

i would say it seems like they've figured themselves out in the last half year or so, at least in terms of features produced, but they have a looooooooot of cooks in the kitchen...

not sure how that benefits them long term

[quasi valley]

noone!

[upper flicker]

literally everyone

this always happens every time they release a new version

[worn ember]

shh this is the perfect opportunity to plug paper downloader

[slim nymph]

we have a paper downloader already

its called hit the download url and download it

[fallen oracle]

Yurr

[worn ember]

we have spigot already /s

[slim nymph]

and wiz we prob got a lot of youngsters here who dont even know about that gif i linked lol

though that meme isnt that old

was something minor of trash talk comments or something but dad blew it up and she was super upset with her dad more

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Consequences Will Never be the Same [Original Video] - length 1m 32s - 1,261 likes, 61 dislikes (95.4%) - 123,068 views - Youdungoofed9 on 2010.07.23

[fallen oracle]

Lol

[worn ember]

yes being in your 20's is tragic

[limber knot]

Sluttiy slaughter

[worn ember]

sigh i goofed up my dns again <.< but idk what i did this time lmao

[mortal zinc]

https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Mojang_AB#Game_developers lists around 18 java developers for Minecraft

though i don't know if that's specifically for the java edition

[pulsar wigeon]

that's mojang

not minecraft

not minecraft java edition

[mortal zinc]

so when it says Game developer (Minecraft) what is that indicative of?

[quasi valley]

bedrock

dungeons

world

[pulsar wigeon]

no clue, it doesn't specify java or not

[mortal zinc]

i'm not counting dungeons

[proud zodiac]

Wait so can I just upgrade my existing paper 1.14 server to 1.15

Or is there anything else I have to do

[quasi valley]

take a backup to be safe

[proud zodiac]

Yeah aight

Good idea

[heady spear]

you also need to sacrifice a baby goat

otherwise it's not going to work

[quasi valley]

oh yeah forgot about that

why?

how dare you not care about the bees

[worn ember]

bee hater

[high gate]

there's a nasty bug that crashes the game in 1.15, is that bug there in paper 1.15 too?

[quasi valley]

anvils?

[high gate]

yeah something to do with anvils

[quasi valley]

fixed in 1.15.1 pre

[high gate]

yes, I know, but still

Was just wondering if paper patched it already

[quasi valley]

it's a client error

[high gate]

ahh

[pulsar wigeon]

anvil thing is client side yea

[high gate]

I should make a mod for the fix maybe

[mortal zinc]

hmmm

[high gate]

can just take a peak at 1.15pre1 diff

[quasi valley]

it's called viafabric and using 1.15.1 pre

[high gate]

still gonna be stuck installing windows for a while anyways : (

[void void]

soo 1.15 out?

anyone tested it?

[quasi valley]

no

[void void]

than do it

and call me

[high gate]

🐒

[void void]

[high gate]

I'd rather use a simple fix than viafabric

[void void]

@spare venture proud of you

after typing here 24/7 for 2years you got a role

[orchid raft]

Anyone know if 1.15 is stable on servers ?

[quasi valley]

no

[pulsar wigeon]

if you have to ask, you shouldn't be touching it

[void void]

nah i just have more people to talk than here

[quasi valley]

I'll just answer plain "no" to everyone asking, that seems nicer 😂

[void void]

you talk only here

sad BR

[mortal zinc]

that's not a fair answer 100% of the time wiz

[void void]

imagine being BR

[quasi valley]

it is a fair answer right now

[pulsar wigeon]

i don't give a shit about what's fair vector

it's a completely valid answer

[void void]

when i said that i live there?

[mortal zinc]

i once asked md-5 about the configuration value for spigot to not halt the connection when there are new updates to spigot, the thing like IKnowWhatImDoingISwear and he treated me as if i wasn't experienced with working with the source code

[void void]

you asked me where i am from

and i said FYROM?

never ever used that word

[pulsar wigeon]

don't ask stupid questions then

[mortal zinc]

though i guess your answer is fair if you want to unconditionally give yourself less work to do

[void void]

imagine being BR

only talking here

[mortal zinc]

hey, any question is an opportunity for knowledge

[void void]

i said 10countries

[pulsar wigeon]

can also just be a waste of time

[mortal zinc]

i guess so

[void void]

i was trolling look that i said before that

[mortal zinc]

i was able to figure it out anyways, but yeah, devs time is precious, so i understand your point of view

[void void]

i said kebab land?

yeah you are

do you even know what is FYROM?

[mortal zinc]

trolls are just people medicating their own issues

[void void]

and you are from albania?

who even calls it FYROM?

[patent wraith]

torsocks youtube-dl '[LINK]'

[void void]

you sure?

nah i think its Macedonia

so you from greece?

probably bulgaria or greece

only people from there dont know anything and talk shit

[quasi valley]

can you two please get a room?

[void void]

imagine being BR

[pulsar wigeon]

kenny:

[quasi valley]

ah yeah that's a nice solution too haha

[void void]

yeah block this pink kid

[green turret]

So cranky

[quasi valley]

I'll just block gymb, barty is still fun

[pulsar wigeon]

oh, that jabroni guy?

i've had him blocked for ages now

[void void]

dont you see i ask random here beacuse i know you will troll?

[pulsar wigeon]

pretty sure i've banned him from EH before too

[quasi valley]

ah nice

[void void]

cause you are here 24/7

looking at the chat

[high gate]

is PaperMC/Paper/tree/wip/1.15/removed for patches not implemented in 1.15?

[pulsar wigeon]

yes

tho look at master

wip/1.15 isn't used anymore

[high gate]

ooh okay

thnx

[pulsar wigeon]

(atm it's the same but going forward it won't be)

[void void]

thinking for comeback?

yeah you right

[green turret]

What's wrong with hanging out here?

[upper flicker]

atm just the randoms freaking out over release day

[quasi valley]

seems like it's both ways 😂

[upper flicker]

got them more riled up than a picture day jessica

[golden gust]

not having everybody blocked

[quasi valley]

you just have to join wiz' religion

[pulsar wigeon]

wololo

[solid tinsel]

Initial Release day

[quasi valley]

I'm already a proud member

[night tangle]

Cool 1.15 :)

Testing out tomorrow

[green turret]

I'm watching Claire from Bon Appétit make gourmet Milky Way. It's very soothing.

[quasi valley]

maybe he found someone else?

I smell a story

[dusk drift]

New frogs

[pulsar wigeon]

cooking videos are pretty great background stuff

[dusk drift]

[green turret]

Yeah!

[pulsar wigeon]

especially the asmr-type ones

[quasi valley]

[pulsar wigeon]

where there's no voiceover, just high quality audio

[worn ember]

buy some bathwater

[pulsar wigeon]

and you can hear the tools moving, the ingredients, etc

[green turret]

I have a liked video of someone making cream buns.

[limber knot]

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[green turret]

No talking just lots of splats and splooshes.

[worn ember]

or you know, could just listen to music...

[quasi valley]

white noise is music

smh

[worn ember]

its noise

noise isnt music

[quasi valley]

you are noise

hater

[worn ember]

im static

public static hater

[green turret]

That's like saying "or you know, could just eat pizza" if someone says they like burritos.

[worn ember]

how can you unironically listen to white noise

that shit would drive me crazy

[green turret]

Do you know what tinnitus is

[worn ember]

yes and tehres a reason people go insane from it

[green turret]

Yeah, white noise is like ear muffs for tinnitus

[worn ember]

its literally the same kek

you replace the one noise with the other

congrats

[green turret]

No that's not how sound works

[worn ember]

you only notice the louder one

[green turret]

Or your cute little ear hairs!

Do you know how noise canceling headphones work?

[worn ember]

not my fault people are mentally retarded

you're right, shouldnt disrespect myself by talking to degenerates

[green turret]

Why are you just saying things that are not true though? Like, do you not know that you're wrong, or did you specifically acquire this incorrect information somewhere?

[woven otter]

brown noise is better than white noise imo

[quasi valley]

can we just all agree on eating duck

[green turret]

I like purple noise

[upper flicker]

jesus he's literally lax

[woven otter]

can we agree to make kenny fall

[green turret]

Yeah my mama's making roast duck for Christmas!

[quasi valley]

yes please

[woven otter]

yes

[quasi valley]

I've been trapped in this upsidedown world for months

[pulsar wigeon]

cut him loose

let him fall into the sun

[worn ember]

@green turret well you comparing them to noise canceling headphones which isn't very accurate either lmao. They absorb the sound. Last time i checked sound doesnt absorb sound unless the wavelengths are 90° offset

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[green turret]

What the fuck lol

You're not saying noise canceling headphones absorb sound, right?

[worn ember]

what do they do then...

[green turret]

...

[pulsar wigeon]

wtf is going on here lol

[charred hound]

autism

[pulsar wigeon]

how is the garbage winning the convo

i dont even want to know what retard is behind those blocked message bars

[green turret]

Hahahaha

[quasi valley]

hidden in the dark

in the darkeyeddragon

[green turret]

Well the guy thinks noise canceling technology is sound absorption.

[pulsar wigeon]

yes, i got that bit

clearly he hasn't taken elementary physics

and learned about wave phases

[worn ember]

i did actually but theres a reason i changed course

[green turret]

I was gonna try to explain it with jumping on a trampoline with other people.

But I don't think he'll get it.

[wide chasm]

Afaik, it just makes the 'opposite' noise to cancel it.

[pulsar wigeon]

pretty much yea

[green turret]

Yep, negative interference

That's why you need microphones!

[pulsar wigeon]

creates a new wave (sound) with the same amplitude and shifted by half a wavelength

[worn ember]

bruh i thought those were "sound mufflers" the ones you wear on a construction site

[wide chasm]

I thought those things they wear there literally just try to block sound

[worn ember]

ok boomer

[quasi valley]

I think he already got that

from 3 other people

[green turret]

Ear muffs do absorb yeah

[worn ember]

thats what i was refering to

[green turret]

Nice save

[worn ember]

mah bad

i blame my english vocab

still how does any of that have to do with tetanus?

or whatever its called

[green turret]

Hahahaha

Tetanus

[pulsar wigeon]

yea there's a difference between active noise cancelling, and noise suppression/reduction

[quasi valley]

tinnitus

[worn ember]

that one

tetanus is the rust thing right

[green turret]

Yeah none of this has anything to do with tetanus, that's for sure.

[worn ember]

[green turret]

"the rust thing" is such a good name for it too, lol

[worn ember]

we all know my IQ is above and beyond

[wide chasm]

Above and beyond 0, yes, but that's true for everyone

[golden gust]

Must have overflowed or something

[pulsar wigeon]

the dangers of unchecked arithmetic

[wide chasm]

Don't remind me of my uni course

Please, the Assembly still hurts

[balmy shuttle]

pretty sure thats not how ears work

[pulsar wigeon]

what's not how ears work

[balmy shuttle]

barty said.... "Beware of getting tetanus from loud noises"

[pulsar wigeon]

wooooosh

https://tenor.com/view/joke-dumb-gif-8906255

[balmy shuttle]

meh

mah... just rejoind and read the last line

lol

[green turret]

I have PTSD from linear algebra. I will sometimes wake up from a nightmare where I haven't studied properly or at all for a math exam, and it'll take me a good minute or two to snap out of it. I graduated years ago.

[wide chasm]

Oof

[balmy shuttle]

what so bad about linear algebra

[wide chasm]

I'm praying that doesn't happen with me and Assembly

[quasi valley]

the fear of nonlinear algebra

[green turret]

That course was so tough and so useless. Took a computer graphics course a year after that taught applied linear algebra and I understood everything no problem.

[wide chasm]

But I can still hear the TA saying "that movb should be leab" and I still don't know why in the world that would be better.

[balmy shuttle]

pretty sure the most boring course i even had was automata theory or some such nonsense

[wide chasm]

Just write "rule 110" for every question /s

[woven otter]

wat

[balmy shuttle]

im so happy im old

by this point i forgot allmost everything i spend years to learn

[green turret]

At my uni linear algebra was just pure theory, no examples of applications or anything. Pure math course for math students. So many proofs that I just didn't understand. Took a course later on that revolved around computer assisted proofs. That was awesome. I understood everything. Loved it. Should have had that course way earlier.

[wide chasm]

Proofs have always been my weak point in math as well.

[green turret]

Yeah the computer graphics course just fucking blew my mind. Oh THAT'S what it's all about!

@wide chasm check out the Coq language and Proof General for Emacs. That stuff is insane for "getting it", because you have a compiler that helps you verify your proof.

[pulsar wigeon]

Coq language eheheh

[green turret]

Yeah professor said "you get an A if you can come up with an original joke about the language, but an F if I have heard it before. Joke wisely".

[wide chasm]

Wtf, I've seen BrainFuck programs more understandable than that.

[slim nymph]

fun note a lot of people are confused on tetanus, you don't get tetanus from rusty nails contrary to popular myth! tetanus is actually in SOIL. the assocation to rusty nails comes from stepping on a nail in the dirt, which if its in the dirt, will deeply puncture you and the bacteria can enter system. absolutely nothing to do with rust. hole in body + bacteria in soil + enter body = bad

[green turret]

Yeah you can get it from dog bites and shit too

[wraith wharf]

It's da baccteriiaa

[balmy shuttle]

Im sure linear algebra will come in handy in my next life...

[slim nymph]

lot of people think 'oh rusty nail sticking out from that 2x4 is gonna give me the tet' but thats less likely

[balmy shuttle]

yeah byt i mean the abstract stuff

[wide chasm]

I've used matrices 🙂

[golden gust]

Ez fix is best fix

[wide chasm]

Yes, but I've used a 3D matrix

Beat that! /s

[balmy shuttle]

i intend to be reborne as a hyper inteligent n dimensional being of pure energy... when when i get bored i will need som theory to design n dimensional minecraft

[green turret]

Highly relevant in ML too

[wide chasm]

Oh yeah, you don't really call those matrices I guess

Ehm... it has three dimensions and it has numbers

[golden gust]

I need to make food, but that's like, standing up and cooking and stuff

[wide chasm]

Just multiple matrices on top of each other

It's basically a double[][][].

[void void]

.g tensor

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor -- Tensor - Wikipedia: "In mathematics, a tensor is an algebraic object that describes a linear mapping from one set of algebraic objects to another. Objects that tensors..."

[void void]

aight time to read

[green turret]

@golden gust I stood in the grocery store and looked at groceries for 10 minutes before I said fuck it and bought a pizza. I regret it now because my tummy hurts, but no dishes to clean.

Team pineapple 🍕 🍍

[woven otter]

interesting

[wide chasm]

I can ban you, you know that right?

🙂

[void void]

doit

[woven otter]

ban wiz too

[wide chasm]

I can't ban mods

[woven otter]

sad

[green turret]

Some day you will taste a pineapple pizza and regret you ever doubted it.

[wide chasm]

I have tasted pineapple pizzas and I regretted it

[pulsar wigeon]

i'm making pineapple pizza in the next day or two

[green turret]

There's a guy at work who says he doesn't like pineapple on pizza but he has never had it. He says he gets his opinions and taste buds from an old TV show.

[wide chasm]

What, lol

[pulsar wigeon]

lol

sounds right

[balmy shuttle]

i hafe infantile taste... thus pineapple pizzas = YAY

[pulsar wigeon]

tbh, i have had people tell me that they actually like the taste of pineapple on pizza, but don't like the texture

so they'll put pineapple on for cooking, and then remove the chunks after

so you get the juices soaking in without the chunks

[wide chasm]

Pineapple on its own already tastes bad imo, so I don't think I'll do that either.

[void void]

pineapple's texture is neat, taste is great too; however it won't fit on every pizza

[green turret]

Ahhh sneaking in the holy fruit, I like it

Pepperoni pineapple banana pepper

Or jalapeños

[balmy shuttle]

a relly fresh ripe pineapple has great taste

[green turret]

I also like ground beef and broccoli

[pulsar wigeon]

https://i.imgur.com/KHnE0Cd.png 1.15 already starting to hit 1.13 levels

jesus

[balmy shuttle]

Brussel sprouts are yummy

[green turret]

Very controversial, I think it can be the next room splitter. Right now it just splits the room into me and everybody else though.

[stuck vault]

I’d be interested in how well Mojang have optimised bees and how paper could optimise them more

[pulsar wigeon]

hm, ground beef and broccoli prepared how

when you say ground beef you mean like, just stir fried pretty much?

i could see that working

[green turret]

Fry ground beef with salt, pepper, cayenne. Break into little bits.

[pulsar wigeon]

yea ok, sounds fine to me

[green turret]

Kinda like for tacos or burritos, just a bit bigger chunks if you want.

[dusk drift]

1.15 is more popular than 1.13 rn

https://bstats.org/global/bukkit

[pulsar wigeon]

i was trying to imagine like...hamburger patty with chunks of broccoli in it lol

[dusk drift]

just slightly

[green turret]

Ahahahaha

Just one hamburger patty in the middle of the pizza.

That sounds so frustrating

[balmy shuttle]

thats disturbing

more french then us servers

[void void]

something something OVH

hetzner has dedis in germany and finland, prob in some other places as well

i manage one dedi in finland

fuck, would never buy a machine from own homeland

overpriced as FUCK

hmmm

[void void]

ugh i just discovered that i have to write 600 word motivation letter

for school purposes

to get... 5 useless points

which aren't so useless if i want to do the exam

[solid tinsel]

all of the vector calculus and linear algebra is rushing back to be rip

I thought I was finished with it when I got my degree

I believe so, it may be a plugin

The plugin is "Compare"

[fallen jungle]

Wtf, based on bstats, 3.7% of servers are running on a 40-core machine?

[woven otter]

but why notepad++

[quasi valley]

diffchecker.com bae

[solid tinsel]

Could it be picking up on small servers hosted virtually through a big machine?

[void void]

just use diff --color=always -u

[woven otter]

what's mintery 👀

[worn ember]

-uwu

[void void]

minting shekels

[void void]

basically turns children money into virtual currency

[woven otter]

children money 🤔

[void void]

well, their parents' :^)

rewriting plugin to use mysql instead of yaml database

yes i've been lazy whoops

[woven otter]

oof

I see

that's cool

[worn ember]

childrens money

[tawdry coyote]

F to pay respects

[golden gust]

.g minecraft 1.15 release post

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-1-15-pre-release-1 -- Minecraft 1.15 Pre-Release 7 | Minecraft: "Nov 27, 2019 ... Buzzy Bees! What a delightful bit of alliteration. Someone should use that for when they add bees to their game. Unfortunately, we..."

[limber knot]

Hi, thanks for the great work and for the quick update to 1.15! I can't believe that 1.15 is already on master .. :o

[worn ember]

such detailed bug fixes

oh they're under it

lul

[mossy vessel]

Lmao

[worn ember]

wtf for format is that

[mossy vessel]

A kid friendly one?

[limber knot]

oh damn, the hopper optimisation was the most important patch for us atm :/

guess i'll have to fork it just to remove all calls of the move event lol

[mossy vessel]

Did barty just lose their color

[limber knot]

we're already running spigot, barty; just that a single plugin is taking 40% of the tick with the inventory move item events

[mossy vessel]

Understandable

[pulsar wigeon]

using 1.15 in prod

[limber knot]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/shop-a-simple-intuitive-shop-plugin.9628/ lol

off the bat it goes if (holder instanceof Hopper) return;, but it's still taking up a looot

[turbid spade]

someone wanna play bedwars im bored

[tawdry coyote]

rip zero tick farm patch you will...probably be forgotten tbh

[pulsar wigeon]

mojang patched it anyway didn't they

i assume it's pretty much the same

[tawdry coyote]

ik they marked zero tick farms as a bug, i never actually looked back at the issue

[unreal quarry]

I'm testing it right now

Someone goofed when updating that patch and removed some code that was needed. We've heard Mojang has fixed it anyways, so patch is dropped for now. If zero tick farms still work we'll add the correct patch back in

Funny thing, during my update on purpur I accidentally put those missing lines of code back in, so I didn't see any bugs with growing crops on there lol

[zealous knot]

purpur

[fallen oracle]

Lol

[golden gust]

Yea, they seperated the logic for physics and ticking now

[olive garden]

what does that mean?

[zealous knot]

oh hey trigayree

[unreal quarry]

Means they shouldn't grow in zero ticks

[olive garden]

I wasn't asking for an ELI5, but I guess that does it, thanks

[pulsar wigeon]

means neighbor updates aren't treated the same as random ticks

[upper flicker]

means the ticky-bobs for the thingers are away from the tickity-doos for the randomsy boyos

[limber knot]

Say hello to captain Winky.

[fallen oracle]

Lol

[zealous knot]

lmfao z

[unreal quarry]

At least now we won't hear people whining about us fixing zero tick farm exploits lol

[fallen oracle]

True

Leaf left?

I ain't a furry

Fuck off

[quasi valley]

We still have Vertanzil and city

[limber knot]

Helloo is it me your looking for

I can see it in your eyes

[olive garden]

yes, City should be more than enoguh

[limber knot]

I can see it in your smile

Im going to fuck your brains out

[quasi valley]

Definitely looking forward to getting humped again

😂

[limber knot]

I mean you love it

[quasi valley]

Vert humps everything that is unfortunate enough to be in a 2km radius of him

[limber knot]

I cant help it

[fallen oracle]

What

[olive garden]

I'm not sure whether alcohol or you guys killed more of my brain cells tonight

[fallen oracle]

Can confirm.

[olive garden]

you are 14 years old and shouldn't be drinking

alcohol is proven to have a worse effect on younger humans

[pulsar wigeon]

not so much a worse effect as much as their brains are still developing

and alcohol can mess with that

[quasi valley]

And here people are

[pulsar wigeon]

it's not like they get "more drunk" or something

[fallen oracle]

Aren't our brains always developing as we constantly learn stuff?

Or is there a specific thing you're referring to.

[olive garden]

I would never refer to getting drunk as a negative effect of alcohol

[quasi valley]

[olive garden]

Why would you doubt that?

[quasi valley]

Drunk people are worse than.. I don’t know, worse than Devon

[woven otter]

wow what is this

[olive garden]

they might be worse when it comes to interacting with them, but being drunk or at least slightly drunk can feel good

[fallen oracle]

Hol up.

[olive garden]

that sounds like a contradiction

[fallen oracle]

We played Cards Against Humanity last night while being a little tipsy.

Always a fun time.

[olive garden]

no one is forcing you :)

judging others for this makes perfect sense to me, I totally understand someone who does it

[golden gust]

lol

I don't drink myself often, tbh

But I don't blame those that do

[quasi valley]

I’m not saying you’re not allowed to have fun and being drunk, just that i feel confident in having reason to judge :p

Same for smoking

[olive garden]

I'm not saying that you should judge others, I'm just saying I understand if you do

[fallen oracle]

I don't drink too much either, I just know that it can get addicting.

Typically there's usually just drinks at parties and I usually only go to parties for the social aspect.

See people, catch up, etc.

[cosmic raft]

lmao that dark wizard in the bank @spare venture

[worn ember]

@olive garden every time you talk its about being drunk smh

get some help

[worn ember]

these thumbnails lmao

[olive garden]

hello ramid

[broken wasp]

Eh

[olive garden]

long time no see

[broken wasp]

Was I kicked

[worn ember]

probably

[broken wasp]

I don't remember leaving

[worn ember]

maybe you're also an alcoholic

[proud lance]

maybe you tagged wiz

[olive garden]

maybe no one asked you

Duckn't

[worn ember]

[broken wasp]

Bruh

[pulsar wigeon]

wasn't me to be fair

that was before i got mod

[worn ember]

[fallen oracle]

Wiz is good mod

[pulsar wigeon]

but yea it was that, going by the timestamp

[void void]

Sorry to bother, does anyone know if Dynmap has a Discord?

Was just curious if there was any news for 1.15 Dynmap

[olive garden]

can we feed Jake to leafs?

[void void]

To leafs?

What am I missing

[olive garden]

he's some sort of cannibal

and a furry

[void void]

Umm

[worn ember]

hes also not here anymore

[olive garden]

why?

[worn ember]

cuz he left

[olive garden]

why?

[worn ember]

idk

[rugged tulip]

How's paper 1.15 so far?

[void void]

Devs out here sayin "it will be done when it's done"making us think it will take weeks and it's already out 😂 thank you devs!!

[pulsar wigeon]

don't use it for prod

[worn ember]

feel free to donate all your money to my paypal

[granite salmon]

1.15 has some pretty funny bugs

[void void]

good morning

i woke up with a stiff neck

and i ahte my life

[fallen oracle]

Too bad you didn't wake up with a morning wood too.

[void void]

You don't know that

[fallen oracle]

I woke up 5 minutes before I was supposed to meet my partner for my final project presentation 😂

[void void]

[fallen oracle]

Still made it.

I did most of the work.

Anyways, so we're presenting it and the board fries and starts smoking.

[worn ember]

thats what a bad partner would say

what board?

[pulsar wigeon]

the board?

what kind of board is this

[worn ember]

smartboard i assume

[fallen oracle]

Arduino board.

[pulsar wigeon]

oh

[worn ember]

oh kek

[pulsar wigeon]

circuits

oof

[fallen oracle]

Yeah.

[worn ember]

well then thats just shitty design 😉

[fallen oracle]

My partner put the ground on the wrong plug and it just kapoots.

[worn ember]

[fallen oracle]

Luckily, I talked the grader into giving us a 90% still. I walked him through all the code.

[woven otter]

lucky

[worn ember]

we'd probably just have to redo it

[fallen oracle]

I mean it was due today, out of 100 groups, only 2 groups did what we did. We had no way of contacting the other group to ask them to use their stuff.

[potent warren]

Loving this fake AV sample https://i.imgur.com/hLBKM2V.png

[granite salmon]

WELCOME

Distortion

LOL

[potent warren]

may result in distortion of your operating system

[upper flicker]

just winders, nothing of value lost

[potent warren]

@upper flicker It's malware you dum dum

[upper flicker]

how have you been doing nickerino

[granite salmon]

Click to prevent destruction

[potent warren]

how have you been doing
dunno. what about you?

[void void]

dunno

relatable

[limber knot]

Simple, you are way over the state of dunno

[void void]

ill take that as a compliment

[limber knot]

Definitely

[potent warren]

I love how the header at the top is just an image https://i.imgur.com/qrdZak9.png

[balmy shuttle]

Imagine how long some poor bloke spent developing that

[potent warren]

They got lots of money probably

You can't close it either https://i.imgur.com/Hcrrz36.png

😄

(It's a fake AV btw)

barty: why not ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[balmy shuttle]

Barty he does it because he can.

[potent warren]

I'm gonna try opening more than one at once.

[balmy shuttle]

Only reason anyone ever did anything

[nova badge]

https://pomf.nachtraben.com/u/E557Xedr.png

[potent warren]

Maybe this is related:

Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.

[nova badge]

Wonderful platform

[potent warren]

gonna try running them all at once

[void void]

Nick you're a retard

[pulsar wigeon]

we knew that already tho

[potent warren]

Nick you're a retard
Isn't that obvious?

262 rogues...

[gloomy sphinx]

i dont see the point in wasting your time with old malware everyone has already experienced when they were 12 downloading pron and shell booters

gets kinda old

[potent warren]

Well, I didn't soooo ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I know this is old stuff.

I'm interested by it.

IT'S TALKING

[zealous knot]

https://news.ratelimited.me/security-101-writing-a-secure-file-hosting-provider/

tbh this is the most confusing wall of text iv'e read today

what do you think

i dunno, i feel like this dude let his pet walk over the keyboard or something

[void void]

i had never eve heard of bisoga

[zealous knot]

they sent it to me because i also run a file host

but i didn't really know how to take it

[void void]

[zealous knot]

because this page is partly worded as a guide but also partly worded as a guarantee to their users that said file host is secure

subjectively

[potent warren]

Somehow something made it so safemode doesn't work

[worn ember]

nicker are you still on that shit?

[potent warren]

yes

Don't judge me

[worn ember]

smh

[limber knot]

Which paper versions are supported now that 1.15 dropped?

Do I need to migrate dyescape away from 1.13? 😂

[worn ember]

[woven otter]

imagine actually doing that

[fallen oracle]

That's annoying, the new discord invite embeds don't show the member count.

In other news, woot. 6K members.

[worn ember]

oof

[limber knot]

???

no

open a feature reuqest I guess

lmao, why are you using some unperformant alternative?

[void void]

@fallen oracle did you ev er make that code to generate images

wut

yeah he was gonna remake plugin banners or smth

[worn ember]

[void void]

yeah like dynamic pics that shows download count and reviews n shit

[worn ember]

does spigot have an api? (their website)

or do you just scrape it

[void void]

nope but spiget exists

idk what they do

[limber knot]

eww, Robo's plugin is ugly

[void void]

they probably scrape

idk

[worn ember]

kek

[void void]

but they expose a nice rest api

which works well

[worn ember]

noice

[void void]

https://spiget.org/

[worn ember]

that logo tho

[fallen oracle]

@void void Nah I haven't yet. I've been pretty busy with classes.

It's on the bottom of my to-do list over break.

Which means I probably won't get to it.

[void void]

what was actually wrong with the original

[fallen oracle]

It's got a CPU & Memory leak.

[void void]

oh right lul

wait do you have to selfhost that bitch?

[fallen oracle]

Yeah I host it on one of my machines.

[void void]

for everyone or just for you

[worn ember]

how else would you do it lol

[fallen oracle]

For everyone.

[void void]

no i mean i thought there was a central service

not glare hosting it for everyone

[fallen oracle]

I am the central service.

[worn ember]

[void void]

What about the original author

Where did he fuck off to

[fallen oracle]

He focuses on other projects now. He was the central service but his stuff went down and I offered to take over the hosting of it.

I don't really worry about the leaks atm since I set it up to auto-reboot every so often.

[worn ember]

just get more ram kek

[void void]

can you link me the repo

(again)

[fallen oracle]

https://github.com/darbyjack/ResourceBanner

It didn't even originally compile (idk how he ran it) so I had to make some changes.

[worn ember]

rip images

[fallen oracle]

I did leave some excess in there for EOA for me but in general, most of that is his code.

[void void]

what domain you got it on?

[fallen oracle]

https://banners.glaremasters.me/generator

Cat was saying I could rewrite it in Spring.

Might get around to that.

Again, it's at the bottom of my to-do list.

[void void]

@fallen oracle reason im asking is im thinking of making it

but you'd have to host it cause im broke LUL

[fallen oracle]

I'm fine with that.

As long as you can keep the endpoints the same for the most part, that'd be awesome.

[pulsar wigeon]

glare is swimming in the guilds money

[fallen oracle]

Untrue. That went to my college tuition.

[void void]

yeah when do i get to some of that shit

[pulsar wigeon]

and drowing in student debt LUL

[fallen oracle]

Exactly.

[worn ember]

🇺🇸 murica fck yea

[fallen oracle]

Simple I offered you money to finish the VP rewrite while I had my finals but you shrugged it off.

But yeah if you want to do the banners, I can walk through some of it with you and help out on questions you might have.

[void void]

What is the VP rewrite mf

[fallen oracle]

VoteParty.

[pulsar wigeon]

well just make sure you're getting subsidized loans so you dont have to start paying them off til you graduate kek

[fallen oracle]

We literally just had this coversation like 2 days ago.

[void void]

You didn't offer to pay me

[fallen oracle]

Then you went to go get high.

[void void]

You said "can u do it"

I said "no bitch" cause i assumed free

[void void]

some dinner money

u finna pay me $15

[fallen oracle]

More like $45

When I treat myself to dinner, I treat myself well.

[golden gust]

it shows

[hybrid moss]

I have been told paper 1.15 fixes 0 tick farming, it didn't, why?

[void void]

isnt there a flag for it

or was that just a discussion

or an option in paper.yml

[golden gust]

what build are you on?

[void void]

or something

[golden gust]

it was broken, so we removed it as I was under the impression that mojang fixed it as they'd made some changes, but like, apparently not

[fallen oracle]

Anyways, yeah, if you want to do the banners, I'd be down to talk it over with you.

[void void]

@fallen oracle does this make images on the hard drive, or generate in memory and poop it over the network

[fallen oracle]

Generates it in memory.

[void void]

so it doesnt save to disk

[limber knot]

btw Glare, how tf are these plugins ordered?!? https://banners.glaremasters.me/author/3651/banner.png

[fallen oracle]

Nope

I believe it was by creation date, I honestly don't recall off the top of my head.

It's however Spiget returns the results.

[limber knot]

[void void]

lol i wonder if the "memory leak" is just that it never fucking purges old images it has made

[limber knot]

it seems pretty random tbh

[fallen oracle]

That honestly may be it.

But yeah, I'd be down to work with you on a new system for it all. We can do new designs, more configurability, better performance.

[limber knot]

might be worth changing it to like "most downlaoded"

[void void]

should use a cache to keep in memory if last access was in last 10 mins and then tell it to fuck off and be regenned later otherwise

[limber knot]

just put nginx in front and tell it to cache it

[fallen oracle]

It does cache the SpigotResource itself.

[limber knot]

and return proper browser cache headers

[fallen oracle]

It used to ping Spiget each time.

[void void]

but the problem is that the code that makes the image saves the image data and never removes it from mem

"memory leak"

[fallen oracle]

I had to implement a quick cache fix for that.

[void void]

it's just a developer stupidity leak in reality

[limber knot]

I personally don't like that these pictures are all differently sized, lol

[fallen oracle]

Yeah phoenix, I never really cared too much for it either.

But I'd be willing to work with simple on a new version of this.

[limber knot]

I actually looked into creating my own thing but never got around actually finishing that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

because php sucks

[void void]

work with simple

bitch

ima work with you

you my associate

[pulsar wigeon]

why use php then

[worn ember]

theres literally every other language you could use xD

[limber knot]

because then I would have to setup web stuff with some other language

[void void]

image creation in php is ridiculously easy though

[fallen oracle]

Simple, whatever works for you, I'm down. I would have more motivation if I had another developer working on it too.

[void void]

like, ridiculously

[limber knot]

also that, yeah

[worn ember]

everything in php is pretty easy if you ask me

[fallen oracle]

And then we can have a decent cache system.

And I'll setup nginx to cache the stuff too.

[true canyon]

Time for the fractal of bad design post link?

[void void]

First of all, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs_-emj1qR4

[fallen oracle]

I never fully went through the code that was in this thing. It was hard to read it 😆

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Serenading the cattle with my trombone (Lorde - Royals) - length 4m 14s - 466,326 likes, 3,089 dislikes (99.3%) - 16,044,382 views - Farmer Derek Klingenberg on 2014.08.03

[pulsar wigeon]

lol, hopefully we've all seen that by now

but tbh writing web and images in other languages isn't too hard

[limber knot]

ah, I remember, I wrote a twitch online status image display instead: https://twitch.moep.tv/status.php?user=The_Moep xD

[pulsar wigeon]

i think you could do the whole thing in <50 lines of python prob

[fallen oracle]

Let's start it right now simple. DM. Let's talk plans.

[void void]

Bruh now we got him motivated

Im watching a man allure cattle with a trombone

[worn ember]

yikes

[fallen oracle]

I'm watching The Flintstones but I can pause it for you.

[worn ember]

now you gonna have to actually do stuff simple

[fallen oracle]

I think with Spring's web server, it'll be a lot nicer than the one the original dev wrote.

[void void]

I wonder why

[fallen oracle]

😛

[worn ember]

Spring is java right?

[fallen oracle]

Yeah.

[void void]

yes

[fallen oracle]

I took me a solid hour to originally get the project compiling and whatnot.

The maven and everything was messed up.

But if simple wants to create a repo and shoot me an invite, we can get the ball rolling.

[void void]

https://github.com/simpleauthority/ProSpigotBannersByJoeMama

[fallen oracle]

Heck yeah. Let's do this.

[void void]

Ok I renamed it, that was a meme

[worn ember]

who's Joe?

[fallen oracle]

JOE MAMA (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[worn ember]

bad ┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

[fallen oracle]

Alright simple, off to a good start. You going to use the spring generator in the IDE to create the base platform files?

[void void]

yeh hold on gonna go eat some ass first

[fallen oracle]

Good shit

[fallen eagle]

Hows the 1.15.X performance compared to 1.14.4 ?

[unreal quarry]

Try it and see

Everyone's mileage will vary

[inland fiber]

@fallen oracle I was like uhh i met you before... i met you before in discord but then i realised we had an old conversation before :DD

[fallen oracle]

Nice!

[worn ember]

Glare is like the obama of spigot but more white

[unreal quarry]

He charges penalties for not having health insurance?

[fallen oracle]

I plead the 5th.

I'm just trying to work with my homie Simple.

[worn ember]

having insurance here is mandatory so i dont see the issue with that

but thats just me i suppose

here you'll be glad you have it once shit goes down the shitter

actually you might get it "for free" not sure

well its included in taxes and stuff

[void void]

aight im back bitches

[fallen oracle]

How was the ass?

[golden gust]

feel free to leave kthxbai

[fallen oracle]

No.

He stays.

[void void]

pets the cat

[worn ember]

kitty grumpy as always

[dusky chasm]

was stress testing 1.15, had 50 online and was running pretty smoothly besides pillagers \o/

[worn ember]

pillagers, still dont understand why they are a thing

[unreal quarry]

Confession: I lost leftover pizza so much I've been known to order a pizza and toss it in the fridge for a day or two before eating it :3

[worn ember]

they literally add nothing

[worn ember]

how does putting it in the fridge help you tho? xD

[dusky chasm]

big facts

[unreal quarry]

saves it from possible bugs

[dusky chasm]

players like fighting them though

[worn ember]

oh like that

[dusky chasm]

spawned in tons of bees and they are all fine, pretty impressed so far & its just on build-6 & just released so this is quite exciting
https://i.imgur.com/sqBxF6p.png

[unreal quarry]

give them some blocks to pathfind to

and watch mayhem take hold

[worn ember]

kek

adds flower
Can't keep up. Did the system time change?

[ember crag]

Ay

[patent wraith]

Lots of flowers are in that screenshot though.

[unreal quarry]

they dont like those flowers

[worn ember]

👏

[patent wraith]

They don't like them‽

[unreal quarry]

bees have feelings, too

[worn ember]

actually i dont think they do

[unreal quarry]

ducks dont have feelings

[worn ember]

true

[unreal quarry]

bees != ducks

therefore bees have feelings

[woven otter]

take that back

[unreal quarry]

[worn ember]

imagine getting bullied in a minecraft discord

[tame pendant]

Do yall plan on dropping support for 1.14 before dropping support for 1.13?

[golden gust]

Yes

[tame pendant]

Interesting, okay

[keen crow]

that makes sense actually, 1.14 was a shit show

[unreal quarry]

remember that time mojang made a proper update and projects didnt need to hold support for legacy versions years after their time?

yeah, me either

[keen crow]

too true

[golden gust]

Wait

That happened?!

[worn ember]

for everything before 1.8 maybe

[placid thicket]

How the fuck does this happen?
https://twitter.com/JORAX79/status/1205397907517558785?s=19

Josh Mulanax (@JORAX79)

I just got word that most players who were reset to level 1 in Minecraft Earth after playing the new Minecraft release on PS4 have had their accounts restored (levels/XP, inventory, rubies, etc). There is a small number of players still affected that we aim to fix tomorro...

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[turbid bluff]

I ruined my minecraft server trying to update :)

apprently the server backup only does the main world and not the mv worlds

and i had to restore because update didnt work

[void void]

Hey gu ys, I need you to take a minute and

look at this https://github.com/Spookit/Septo.io/blob/master/Septo.io/src/thito/septo/io/HttpField.java

wiz especially

I need his feedback

@fallen oracle

MinIDigger, we have a newe soldier https://github.com/Spookit/Septo.io/blob/master/Septo.io/src/thito/septo/io/HttpField.java

no

[fallen oracle]

Look at the class 😂😂😂

[golden gust]

oh god

wtf

tabs too

[unreal quarry]

mother of god..

[pulsar wigeon]

holy

fuck

simple i'm about to kick you

[void void]

IT'S NOT MY COE

[pulsar wigeon]

you didn't even ping me but i feel sick

[void void]

IT'S NOT MINE

KICK GLARE

[fallen oracle]

It's not ours

[pulsar wigeon]

you made me look at this

you brought this to my attention

[fallen oracle]

That's the webserver the original author of ResourceBanners used (he made his own)

[pulsar wigeon]

for that, you must be punished

[void void]

Can we just go after Spookit

[golden gust]

Well

[fallen oracle]

We have a duty to the community to made a better version.

[golden gust]

That... explains a lot...

[void void]

What does

[fallen oracle]

Probabaly why there's a CPU LEAK IN A JAVA PROGRAM

[void void]

I'm trying to decipher his fucking code so I can rewrite banners

But it's unreadable

[pulsar wigeon]

overindentation = cpu leak

fo sho

[void void]

UNREADABLE

No, let me show you where the leaks are probably at