that speaks broken english?
#general
vestal jasper
lil nibber Today at 1:41 AM
wen eta
plucky bone
how about jailbroken?
bleak bough
limber knotBOT
hello
void void
goodbye
jovial falcon
hexed ice
wraith folio
woven otter
such a smarty pants
fallow kernel
@coarse spire check flying packet frequency
heady spear
I fucking love the youtube comment section
"Ridicule is such a powerful weapon and I just used it to humiliate you." is how I feel after most interactions with simple.
brazen vector
void void
quasi valley
Wot even
limber knotBOT
whats a libtard?
a term that's supposed to be an insult for liberal people established by far rights and nazis
vestal jasper
someone who uses 3rd party libraries like a retard /s
limber knotBOT
it's as dumb as most of their stuff
golden gust
Isn't using the n word illegal?
limber knotBOT
we are germans, if we use the n word its ok
but outsiders may not use it because then it has a different meaning
heady spear
the ikea founder was a nazi sympathizer
limber knotBOT
well ikea sucks so that's no surprise, lol
limber knotBOT
sweden itself was a nazi supporter
heady spear
Most of the founding members were nazi sympathizers :3
limber knotBOT
like, didnt sweden get us all the steel for our precious tanks
heady spear
Not really. We let the nazis use our railway network to get into Norway
And we sold iron to Germany
But we also sold iron to the allies
Sweden was neutral in the sense that they profited from both sides.
golden gust
I mean, I was about to compare you to america
heady spear
A lot of Swedes joined the German army though, and they were allowed to recruit here
limber knotBOT
" we also sold iron to the allies"
golden gust
But, I guess you guys didn't toss the first match
limber knotBOT
I mean, germany is still the leading force in europe so it cant have been that bad for us either
man, cant have been, am on fire
heady spear
We also supported the allied troops
limber knotBOT
now excuse my while I figure out how the fuck to do mappings for our reverse proxy
heady spear
We didnât let Germany use the railway networks to support Germany, we did it to prevent them from invading us
limber knotBOT
I know that it involves using SVN and ant, so wish me luck
heady spear
Very successfully, might I add.
limber knotBOT
I mean but it DID support Nazis 
heady spear
We also took in a lot of refugees from the rest of Scandinavia. All in all, Sweden handled WW2 quite well
Would sacrificing the Swedish population in protest have been the better choice?
limber knotBOT
well, the sentiment usually is "everyone who doesn't stand up against nazis is a nazi" so while dumb, kinda I guess?
heady spear
Neutrality doesnât mean you donât do shit. It just means you donât favor any one side. Honestly, with the way politics were in Sweden at the time, they could have easily favored Germany
limber knotBOT
so it's not too far fetched that the "neutrality" thing was just the guise of people wanting to support nazis but not pay for it...
heady spear
Opposing Germany would have been disastrous for the country.
noble cargo
limber knotBOT
just means that they have experience in handling that ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
heady spear
It has nothing to do with the nazis, really.
noble cargo
what's good
heady spear
If we wanted to support the nazis we wouldnât have supported the allies
It makes very little sense.
limber knotBOT
maybe just different people with different opinions?
heady spear
Not really. They were neutral because they didnât side with anyone. Thatâs how that works.
limber knotBOT
wouldnt neutrality mean supporting noone though?
heady spear
Anyway, what formed from the nazi sympathizers grew into our conservative nationalistic party and now theyâre the third or second biggest party in the country. That is worrying.
Not according to The Hague convention of 1907.
limber knotBOT
did nazi that coming did you
vestal jasper
Ok I'm fucking confused.
This guy with like 1 day of playtime has 60 stacks of diamond blocks but there's no logs of him ever taking them from a chest or mining a single diamond_ore or diamond_block.
heady spear
Neutral simply means that we donât engage in the wars
So like, no matter how you want to interpret neutrality, according to the conventions of the time, Sweden was neutral.
heady spear
Yes. phoenix is.
limber knotBOT
phoenix I've eaten tacos that are smarter than you
limber knotBOT
sorry but americans thought us germans that everyone who doesn't oppose nazis is a nazi :P
portugal didn't oppose the nazis, was portugal nazi phoenix?
heady spear
No one thinks that the entirety of Germany was nazi sympathizers
quasi valley
Even if opposing, any German is a nazi by default apparently đ
There are Americans that actually do
limber knotBOT
I guess by americas definnition? but technically the nazis never reached portugal so ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
while they were in sweden
that's a really dumb statement phoenix
?
how so
"technically portugal was nazi"
it's not my fault for americas definition for that when the denazifaction happened, lol
heady spear
Itâs almost if Swedenâs geographical position made us a target. Both Russia and Germany wanted a piece of us.
Russia were more hostile
limber knotBOT
we didn't side with anyone because we were in the middle of the worst economic crisis we'd ever had and had a dictatorship in place
heady spear
It's almost as if politics is more complicated than "ur either with me or them!!"
limber knotBOT
say it ain't so weeb
well, being a nazi isn't really about politics anymore tbh
because racism has no place in politics
how can I throat punch the bad guys if they don't start monologues about how evil they are every 5 minutes?
heady spear
If only that were true. Xenophobia is a huge part of politics.
limber knotBOT
yeah good thing racist rhetoric is completely gone from political speeches
maybe in your country, lol
now let's go back to focusing on those mexican rapists
heady spear
It has always been, to be fair. You normally want to do what's best for your local community. If you believe anyone is out to ruin that for you, you turn against them
limber knotBOT
might want to check up on german politics
heady spear
Why did Germany close their borders during the refugee crisis?
limber knotBOT
where hate speech is illegal so literal nazis try to hide everything behind fancy words
or lol let's just talk about anything china is doing regarding non-dominant ethnicities these days
we didn't, lol
stop spreading fake news, mate
( ͥ° ÍÊ ÍĄÂ°)
using china as a measure for liberal, democratic countries
wat
heady spear
"where hate speech is illegal" it is in most places you nut
limber knotBOT
I did start with the US phoenix616
heady spear
limber knotBOT
also phoenix616 did this not happen? https://www.vox.com/2015/9/13/9319741/germany-borders-merkel
heady spear
You literally did tho
limber knotBOT
that wasn't germany
that was bavaria
they acted out of line of state policies (as is their right in a federal republic I guess?)
a german state, mind you
and they had to deal with the internal politic fallout due to that
people give shit to the US for stuff that happens in specific states, I don't see why german states should be treated any differently
but bavaria were considered nazis in most of the rest of germany anways already so ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
saying that it didn't happen in germany is just plain false
heady spear
The Bavarian government, or the people?
limber knotBOT
I didn't say that it didn't happen in germany, lol
I said that "germany didn't close the borders"
which is correct, bavaria did
every other border was open
that's insanely disingenuous
and re US: it's the same bullshit and shouldn't be done
it
*it's sensationalism
you saying it didn't happen and to stop spreading fake news without specifying that it did happen but only for a large chunk of germany is, in its own right, fake news
it's a difference if the government of a single federal state that I am not part of or have any influence on did this or if the federal government (or my local one) which I actively elected and participated in did it
because one I can influence and take personal, the other is just not my responsibility
heady spear
We never mentioned you. You're quite insignificant in this discussion. We said Germany.
You said Germany.
heady spear
So are they?
limber knotBOT
and Germany, the federal state, did not close the borders
Bavaria, a somewhat independent part of germany did this on their own
heady spear
cognitive dissonance is real
limber knotBOT
that's hwo federation works
amazing isn't it weeb
*how
I'm done here
this is beyond ridiculous
I'm off to have lunch
vestal jasper
they were probably xraying
limber knotBOT
you realise that the government I elected actively opposed the closing of the borders, right?
vestal jasper
there's no way they could've seen this diamond unless they randomly decided to dig there or are xraying
limber knotBOT
so saying that "Germany closed the border" is just being dishonest to the reality of our politics and motivations
you realize you can't pretend entire states of your country don't exist just because you wish they didn't right phoenix616
vestal jasper
also, that diamond is only visible in spectator because I removed a block, there wasn't air there when they mined up the diamond
limber knotBOT
I don't do that, lol
vestal jasper
đ
limber knotBOT
you did
several times
ffs no
please read what I wrote
and understand it
I did read, what you wrote is insane
might want to try understanding it then if you only read it
unreal quarry
Hmm.. bot wars..
limber knotBOT
your premise is that germany isn't accountable for the decisions one of its states takes
and that when one state decides to close its borders it doesn't reflect germany as a whole
that's insane
it is, and that's why the federal government opposed this and solved the issue in order for the border to be open again
then you lied earlier when you said germany didn't close its borders
heady spear
also that phoenix opposed the government that did it, and because they're german and don't agree then Germany has zero responsibility for those actions
limber knotBOT
so saying "germany opened the border again after bavaria closed it" would be closer to the truth
you can't defend both points simultaneously
excluding information can often be worse than lying, same as half truths they are way harder to argue how they are wrong
you excluded information yourself, in a ridiculous way
and saying "germany closed its borders" paints a picture that all of germany doesn't want emmigrants and is racist
when you said germany didn't close its borders and to stop spreading fake news
which is just wrong
look up how federal states work, seriously
well I agree that what you are doing is wrong because it paints an incorrect picture of germany by obfuscating the facts
vestal jasper
you're all retarded btw also ty phoenix for plugin updates :^)
heady spear
That's not what that says at all. What is shows is that the specific state acted in a way to favour their own citizens in what could have been an economical and societal crisis.
No one said it was bad. It's a fact that it happened.
limber knotBOT
I agree with that City
heady spear
Now, could racism be a part of it? Very possible. That's not what was said, though.
limber knotBOT
but why not say "a german state closed its borders" instead of "germany closed its borders"?
it paints to completely different pictures
*two
because if 100 people die from a train explosion tomorrow in bavaria the news will say 100 people killed in german train accident not bavarian train accident
bavaria is a part of germany
does it matter that the train accident was in bavaria for the fact that the 100 people died? if not it can be excluded
heady spear
Because it makes no difference in a global context, and no one is going to bother researching local german politics. A part of Germany did something, which means it was a German action.
limber knotBOT
phoenix616ç¶ clearly it doesn't matter when you close the borders either because newspapers were running the news "germany closes borders" but thanks for proving my point for me
due to the border closing being a decision by the bavarian government, not the german one I feel like it should at least include that it wasn't the decision of all of germany
heady spear
You're acting as if Bavaria and Germany are disjoint. That isn't the case.
limber knotBOT
yes, most of the sensationalist news ran it like that
lol
in germany we obviously reported it properly
heady spear
No one said it was. Politics don't work like that.
limber knotBOT
when germany tried to extend their borders some time ago it was wrong, now closing them down is wrong... we really got things going with our borders don't we!
they are disjoint to a point, that's how a federal republique works
you're lying to yourself, this whole argument is pointless
I'm out
how tf am I lying to myself if I say that Bavaria isn't the whole germany? lol
look at a map and you'll see that's true
heady spear
No one said that. I don't know if you're just trolling at this point.
limber knotBOT
I assume that's what magma means seeing as he thinks I'm somewhat lying to myself
heady spear
Maybe you should stop making so many assumptions then
limber knotBOT
I have to when people don't say what the mean but start to argue about different things, lol
tidal geyser
limber knotBOT
also I guess it's kinda hard for people to understand german politics if one didn't grow up with the german system đ€
because how tf would you think that the decision of a state governmant is equal to the one of the federal one?!?
stark idol
zealous knot
No theres no paper 1.15 yet
vestal jasper
Lol
steady sage
hahahahahahahahah
glass vapor
Has anyone tried to test how unlimited Shockbyte's unlimited storage is?
zealous knot
@void void should i jailbreak my fuckass iPhone X? What do i gain from it?
vestal jasper
ear wigs are a god damn abomination and every last one of them deserve to fucking burn and die
heady spear
that's what she said
zealous knot
As you can see Iâm not really a hardcore user so i feel like unless the iPhone comes to life and starts sucking my cock itâs just not worth it, but i dunno maybe Iâm wrong
vestal jasper
shockbyte
i do love me a machine that crashes and reboots every other day at random times of the day and a support ticket that takes 30 days to be resolved
zealous knot
More like shockbit
heady spear
vic we should start a hosting service
zealous knot
Amirite
heady spear
OVH is a bit yikes too
vestal jasper
it is
heady spear
I don't like having my servers turned off randomly without warning
vestal jasper
but it's way less yikes
zealous knot
So now instead of having your tickets answered after 30 days you have them answered never
vestal jasper
mine haven't at all yet
heady spear
it's kinda a big problem
vestal jasper
yes but at least I have full control over the OS
heady spear
it has happened a couple of times
vestal jasper
the chances of something going wrong have gone from daily to yearly
heady spear
we haven't had major data loss but I'm expecting it to cause proper issues some day
oh well
zealous knot
Just use digital ocean bro
heady spear
I get paid to fix these issues lol
vestal jasper
shockbyte's support in discord will pretty much tell you to go away and refuse to help you at all because "we're part-time we have other things to do"
zealous knot
What are those advanced terms youâre throwing at me
vestal jasper
is it tethered tho
upper flicker
Yeah itâs tethered
zealous knot
Tf is that
upper flicker
afaik there are no untethered ones for modern devices anymore
zealous knot
What the fuck is tethered jailbreak you fucking retards
upper flicker
That being said, tethered still sucks
zealous knot
Start making sense pls
zealous knot
Okay fuck you all
vestal jasper
@zealous knot it pretty much means you have to re-jailbreak with your computer every time you reboot the phone for it to be jailbroken while it's booted
if it's tethered
upper flicker
Jailbreaks in the past would still boot as well, they didnât try and market them as some semitethered variant
Itâs just called tethered
Havenât been many that actually boot looped in a long long time
vestal jasper
tetherless means it can boot without a computer and it'll stay in a jailbroken state
vestal jasper
but it's not quite possible anymore due to on-boot kernel patch protection
zealous knot
I didnât even know z was an iPhone user
vestal jasper
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_Patch_Protection if you want a run and informative read
fun*
upper flicker
Yeah but I donât jailbreak anymore
The community has gone to shit
The hey day is over
back in my day
vestal jasper
see what I don't like with iphones is the 6 month period between updating / getting a new phone and being able to jailbreak it.
I don't use unjailbroken iphones.
upper flicker
But lots and lots of good tweaks and old software are long gone, developers no longer wanting to support, jailbreaks getting less likely. Etc
zealous knot
Which iphone do you have Z
upper flicker
XS M
zealous knot
Oof
upper flicker
Depends on your phone
zealous knot
I guess that paper dough really can make a man rich
vestal jasper
not gonna spend $1000 on an phone rn though
upper flicker
lol jail breaking the watch
Might finally get you custom watch faces or something
Otherwise idk who would care other than security researchers
It really is kind of a dying game between the community falling apart and Apple getting better and better at security
Everyone I know who used to dev for it is long gone
Dying != dead
Itâs a shell of its former set
Self
idk if you werenât around for the good old days or not
But to say that now is even comparable shows your ignorance of the subject
No one cares about jailbreaks either
vale patrol
Just use android lol
upper flicker
Geohot hasnât released any JBs in an even longer time
He wasnât the subject of the sentence
Well at least you can admit that now
Now that weâre passed all the other bullshit
Good for you
vestal jasper
spend $1000 every year on new iphone
have no money left
be too poor to spend money on $3 apps
upper flicker
Piracy is the only common denominator across low price tech, high price tech, income brackets, cultures, countries, etc Vic
It unites all the randoms
Never underestimate who is gonna do what
vestal jasper
I used to pirate games and movies a lot.
Then I got a job and started paying for things.
I even paid off the shit I pirated over time 
upper flicker
I donât even root android anymore though
Thatâs at least still a relatively vibrant community
Though it too is starting to die
Custom ROM scene still mostly good though
Lol
Whatever
vestal jasper
doesn't help that there are like 5 different mainstream distros of android
upper flicker
Tbh even googles flavor is pretty bad anymore
vestal jasper
wait Z what was the last ios version geohot made a jailbreak for, approx?
void void
upper flicker
Pffft that wouldâve had to have been like 5 or 6 or something
Long long long time ago
vestal jasper
ah ok
upper flicker
That he actually released? Iâd have to look it up
vestal jasper
saw his name under blackra1n a second ago
vestal jasper
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
vestal jasper
bye
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
upper flicker
Iâve seen him referenced on stuff as a source of info, but with his name as the author? Yeah youâre going back
He still offers random advice but he doesnât really work on stuff much anymore that I know of
Thatâs so incredibly pointless I donât even know where to start
Cool it can be done
But completely worthless
void void
does paper has better optimization??
upper flicker
Suppose we say the same thing to the people running on the original rasp pi though too
void void
so it will reduce lag?
zealous knot
@upper flicker I donât think itâs completely worthless now with the new RPi 4 tho
void void
I still get this message @void void Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running 6634ms or 132 ticks behind
zealous knot
I think the 4 gig model would run it fine
upper flicker
tbh it wasnt completely worthless with the pi3
I used to stress it out to more easily test like 5 tps situations
upper flicker
get to it, I havent gotten one yet
my odroid n2 still more than enough for everything I do
probably still end up getting one
zealous knot
I forgot how to install java on linux tho 
upper flicker
for shame
viral hornet
đŻ
void void
guys
how can I remove dis
Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running 6634ms or 132 ticks behind
zealous knot
I actually unironically nuked my vps by accident once, im not allowed anywhere near linux anymore
Get a better server @void void
zealous knot
If your config is so shit that your server is running behind then thats a different problem
mossy vessel
I remember you wiping your bot by "accident" ;p
void void
will this be fine? "Intel i7-7700K @ 4.5Ghz"
zealous knot
I wiped it again but this time on purpose, forever @mossy vessel
void void
will this be fine? Intel i7-7700K @ 4.5Ghz
DDR4 2133MHz ECC Memory 1Gbps Uplink Unmetered Enterprise grade NVMe SSDs 480Gbps DDoS Protection Unlimited Slots Unlimited Modpack Preinstalls Up to 7 Days of Backups
true canyon
Hosts do impose r/w speed limits by overselling! đ
zealous knot
Also whats going on with your server that you need this hardware just to not have your tps run behind
@upper flicker say i did run paper on the rpi 4, how would i test how shit it is?
upper flicker
well if its just you it'll probably work fine
up the random ticks
set fly speed really high and load/gen a bunch of shit
idk there's not an exact metric when you dont have real people there with you
make a flying machine with slime blocks
those used to always lag everything out
dusky smelt
i cant wait for paper 1.15 lol
limber knotBOT
well, you will have to đ
wild grail
fallen eagle
đ
true canyon
good! let it burn
restive folio
mossy vessel
How can I download spigot now đą
tardy lynx
buildtools?
plucky garden
mossy vessel
đ
void void
true canyon
@mossy vessel Have you considered instead letting it burn?
drowsy urchin
drowsy urchin
ikr
balmy shuttle
lol
void void
Get those monkeys outta and get some real programmers
dusk drift
void void
mossy vessel
Sure, let's burn it, get me some marshmallows
void void
Back in my day we tested everything thoroughly
i wonder something though
Did legends of the chambered (notchs abandoned game) inspire minecraft dungeons in anyway
we know some of its textures were used for minecraft
sly burrow
upper flicker
tbh that seems like a relatively minor fix if that freeze only happens on --forceUpgrades
I wouldnt really beat them up over missing much there
if it happens when the DFU system hits any corrupt chunk then oof
drowsy urchin
Actually I found a lot of rendering issues in 1.15 also I found issues with iron golems
dusk drift
like?
upper flicker
I wonder if they'll push 1.15.1 out fast or hold it for stuff like that
severe skiff
upper flicker
tbh there probably are some rendering bugs, they did redo a bunch of it again
dusk drift
Mojang and numbers scare me man, I feel like they'd only do so many .x's no matter the content
upper flicker
half of the snapshots were "fixed rendering issue xyz"
open a bug report if you havent already though so they know
drowsy urchin
- Go mining in third person and you can see thru blocks causing like X-ray vision type thing you can see caves and stuff Iâm at school so canât really explain it
upper flicker
someone confirm, check there's an issue for that
that'd be one of those things I imagine they'd shove in 1.15.1
pulsar wigeon
no, mojang should read our minds!!!
nmf you're a gnome. anything you say is invalid.
drowsy urchin
?
Isnât Minecraft a multibillion dollar company it shouldnât have these types of issues in the release of the gameÂż
pulsar wigeon
minecraft isn't even a company
drowsy urchin
Microsoft-> Mojang
upper flicker
microsoft doesnt touch java edition
pulsar wigeon
and that sort of thought process is fucking retarded
even companies with dedicated QA teams will have bugs
there's just no way to get more people testing your software before release than after
upper flicker
well and Microsoft did fire most of the Windows QA teams
so probably not a great example :^)
I doubt that even bedrock has a QA team though
pulsar wigeon
yea that's why i said "even companies with dedicated QA teams"
like, say you hire 100 people to find bugs
and they have a month or so before "release"
so you get ~16000 hours of bug testing
then you release
drowsy urchin
I just like how your defending them especially after the release of 1.14
pulsar wigeon
day one, you have 100000 playing
you got that 16000 hours of testing done in 20 minutes now
i'm not defending anyone
upper flicker
the release of 1.14 was microsoft pushing them to launch early
pulsar wigeon
i'm saying you're fucking retarded
upper flicker
it wasnt even like the mojang devs were like "lul this is done, lets go"
drowsy urchin
Are you calling me retardedÂż
inland fiber
eta 1.15.1 eta eta
upper flicker
I think he just directly did that quite clearly with that sentence
pulsar wigeon
the fact that you can't even read what i just said kinda confirms
upper flicker
Im not sure waht the question was there
dusk drift
u are if ur using a unside down question mark
pulsar wigeon
i was very explicit
drowsy urchin
Ok,
upper flicker
anyway, you can not immediately blame everything on mojang without also being their greatest defender
inland fiber
The guy who's making those cinematics is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQOSJkBYzrg&feature=emb_title
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Buzzy Bees: Official Trailer - length 1m 31s - 92,746 likes, 692 dislikes (99.3%) - 748,519 views - Minecraft on 2019.12.11
upper flicker
wiz bashes mojang all the time
hell everyone in here does
often for very valid reasons
round pike
golden gust
Shitting on them for something that was out of their control is dumb
We'll say that 1.14 was a shitshow of a release, mojang have also stated that
whole delta
Personally I think they should've stopped at 1.12.2 and just kept that updated, that was a good release imo
vestal jasper
I quite like my live command feedback and flattening ids tyvm
golden gust
It's not like they're doing nothing about it, considering the technical debt of the 10 year old codebase, it could be a lot worse; I'm just glad that they're working on stuff and moving forward, even if I'm not happy that they've not touched a major sore point for me in 1.14/5, I can't entirely expect them to drop a whole new system out in a matter of months
vestal jasper
literally worst part of devving plugins for 1.12 is having to deal with numerical IDs and numerical data values
whole delta
Nothing to say that cant be included in an update...
vestal jasper
I can't just say I want ItemTypes.LAPIS, I have to create an ItemStack with ItemTypes.DYE and then give it color data
golden gust
It's called versioning
A point release for something as large of a change as the flattening would be stupid
dull cosmos
vestal jasper
paper b1.7.3 when
golden gust
back when PvP was good
vestal jasper
ok but I don't see you or Z contributing to canyon :^)
well I guess vicariously you are
since some of its patches are ripped from paper
upper flicker
do you want 1.15 or not
vestal jasper
golden gust
I mean, I'd pull a joke that I don't see him contributing to Paper, but he did a dozen patches, so â€ïž
vestal jasper
lol
I even redirected someone to canyon because they were in the mcmmo discord trying to find ancient mcmmo versions for b1.7.3
pulsar wigeon
i mean
it's still old af
it's just bringing some of the newer improved systems back
not gonna revamp the api lol
drowsy urchin
sorry. @pulsar wigeon
placid totem
upper flicker
if you make any major revamps to the api you break it
true canyon
@upper flicker 1.7 early releases were AWFUL with the new structure stuff lagging out. 1.6.4 was the last good release
upper flicker
and tbh Im not sure how much revamping it really needs given what it was built for
Im no longer your #1 fan
true canyon
ohhhh beta
I can't read, I'm sorry!
I thought you meant release 1.7.3 and was going to start shouting!
vestal jasper
lol
true canyon
I'm not in voice, I'm in my carrier!
pulsar wigeon
can this be turned off
vestal jasper
wow ok wiz ignoring me smh my head
upper flicker
yeah idk why that's there
it'd make more sense if it only showed when you were in a voice channel
pulsar wigeon
yea
upper flicker
as some way to id what you were hearing
pulsar wigeon
discord is also retarded tho but i guess
true canyon
I think they're trying to promote use of voice
upper flicker
@true canyon WHO SAID YOU COULD LEAVE YOUR CARRIER
vestal jasper
ok but why would I use my voice to talk to people when I can type instead without any obligation to reply instantly
hi billy
unreal quarry
I hate voice because I can't hear what someone says half the time and I have to make them repeat it
true canyon
đż
golden gust
#BillyIsDef
unreal quarry
Huh?
vestal jasper
fun fact, billy, those patches you did for me that never made it into paper?
they're meaningless now because they made it so loyalty returns tridents when they fall into the void 
unreal quarry
runs away
dusk drift
Can we add a pillager/villager cap yet?
true canyon
villager cap? This isn't tf2, we don't need everything to have hats.
woven otter
oof
unreal quarry
I don't think caps are needed in 1.15, hexed. But if they are, there's always purpur ;)
I don't remember those patches, Vic :3
dusk drift
any non cap on entities is fucking terrible
charred lodge
void void
heady spear
@woven otter wyd
neon rampart
heady spear
can u prove that { <A, B> |Â A, B are DFAs and L(A) = L(B)} is decidable
void void
read the damn #announcements
void void
there's always a rope
upper flicker
There's also the people who think they're funny by asking about it in a mocking tone
as if thats better
woven otter
sorry Z for hurting you
void void
we speak english here my dude
upper flicker
wasnt me
woven otter
will you forgive me Z
void void
retards get burned alive here
heady spear
then how the hell is simple alive
void void
set theory... had that in uni about a month ago
worn ember
he has a thicc jacket
heady spear
no jk I love simple he's very daddy
worn ember
city the kind of guy to use bootstrap for his websites
heady spear
If you can create a deciding TM that calculates the symmetric difference between the language of two DFAs then you can show that language equality is decidable
void void
what
worn ember
@heady spear stop talking to yourself
void void
kek
worn ember
limber knotBOT
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heady spear
@void void but why tho
void void
yea
heady spear
ur just mad because u can't math
void void
and ur just being angry for being called as a nerd
heady spear
lick my sweaty toe
heady spear
void void
fuck, i'd rather get herpes
void void
if i had a choice between those two
but the thing is that i don't have to pick either of them
so i'll just... ignore your both offers
heady spear
bye whore
vestal jasper
wait, you're not a man you're a whore
heady spear
I'm a man-whore
void void
errr yes there's a limit
vestal jasper
yeah your disk space :^)
limber knotBOT
â Rekt750
woven otter
rekt
inland fiber
1.15.1 is actually faster than 1.15
modern lotus
vestal jasper
ah yes, discord
where blocking someone still makes their messages easily accessible
and messages from blocked users still send notifications
worn ember
char char
wooden juniper
fleet geode
fallen oracle
They already released .1?
upper flicker
no they released .1 pre1
dusk drift
pre
left swift
is dynmap working for you guys on 1.15? hm
dusk drift
coz of some crit issues
fallen oracle
Oh okay I was like wtf
fallen oracle
Z, anything else I can do to help later?
worn ember
How to beat paper with rock?
upper flicker
ducks
fallen oracle
Okay awesome.
worn ember
damn
fallen oracle
Whelp, keep up good work.
fallen oracle
It's a process
urban palm
fallen oracle
I like how there is always an influx of people that join right after a MC release.
Which is also a good thing.
People know the right place to go
void void
open up multiple PRs
worn ember
well, if i have a bunch of changes made before. But i only want to PR recent changes, is that possible?
if the old changes dont alter anything to your new recent changes
woven otter
make a branch only with those commits then
worn ember
ur a branch
woven otter
ur
woven otter
@upper flicker đŠ đŠ đŠ đŠ
inland fiber
@dusk drift Nah it's much better trust me
The game is smoother
Even when you full screen it
1.15 when you full screen it, it's heavy
golden gust
You would need to create a new branch with just those commits on
worn ember
woven otter
eta on paper 1.16 tbh
tall steppe
You know what, who needs force upgrade. I'm just going to fly to all 24 million chunks with my minecraft client.
there were some really bad updates... Ive upgraded from 1.3 beta all the way to 1.14.4 now. 1.15 seems like an easy one.
void void
tall steppe
especially the UUID update was bad.
oof.. tppos.. then I have to calculate chunks boundaries and view distance
sure
if you want to have it done on a HDD
đ
ssds are expensive, you know.
sure
thats 6$ per screenshot pls
dark nexus
jolly jay
vale patrol
ETA on paper cave update when
tall steppe
no, you have to say "HDD, ok boomer"
its fine really
as long as you pregenerate chunks
floppy drives are so loud though, its annoying when im trying to sleep
vale patrol
Floppy drive? Nah I run my server on Turing compatible rocks
tall steppe
and my mom is also annoyed by it sometimes, she needs the basement for her book club meetings.
peak dirge
I run my servers on /dev/null
tall steppe
whats next, devrandom?
peak dirge
I like /dev/null because it's webscale
civic laurel
vale patrol
Only real server owners run their servers on these babies
tall steppe
just add a few holes... poof.. 1.15
peak dirge
@vale patrol show your rewrite of Minecraft in COBOL... I'm sure it'll be even better than what we have now! đ
tall steppe
litterally php would be better.
peak dirge
php is autism, we need a COBOL rewrite
vale patrol
I wish bedrock wasnt so commercialized because I'm sure it's way more optimized than java lol
peak dirge
Given the people who work on it, probably not
Only advantage is that the JVM isn't there anymore
peak dirge
I heard it took them months just for the Bedrock Dedicated Server to handle more than 10 players without shitting itself
vale patrol
When has mojang server software not been shit
peak dirge
Minecraft server software has been shit since the game was first thrust upon the world in 2009
But we went from the "interesting" coding scheme of Notch to the "LOOK MOMMA AT MY 31337 CS SKILLZ!" crowd
cough DataFixerUpper
pulsar wigeon
pRoFuNcToR oPtIcS
tall steppe
do we do the screenshot thing?
woven otter
wiz wiz wiz
pulsar wigeon
kenny why does your status emoji look like midlane in summoner's rift
woven otter
what a nerd
pulsar wigeon
tbh i haven't really played league since S2
o, found it
that's what i was thinking of i think
worldly hollow
pulsar wigeon
guess it's not quite the same
quasi valley
dunno, had some guy make this like 3-4 years ago and cropped it down a year ago https://i.imgur.com/gBGGHQv.png
I just drew a few lines in paint and told them to make something đ
limber knotBOT
looks more like <||>
quasi valley
woven otter
did you just make that
quasi valley
a while back
woven otter
o
pulsar wigeon
look what i just made đĄïž đŠ
woven otter
what did you just make wiz
worn ember
dont get salty now
pulsar wigeon
fabric has a few too
errant hill
woven otter
rekt
pulsar wigeon
.rekt
limber knotBOT
â Gladirekt
pulsar wigeon
?
quasi valley
ah 
is also used quite a lot there đ
kind geyser
quasi valley
play some sad violin
quasi valley
lol
woven otter
I should build a giant duck in your server
worn ember
imagine actually playing minecraft
fallen jungle
We need an official Paper server
void void
hard kernel
hexed wyvern
void void
cOmE oN iTs bEeN oUt fOr tHrEe dAyS aNd sPiGoT iS oUt fOr 1.15 aLrEaDy
woven otter
OMG WHERE IS PAPER 1.1241252123
limber knotBOT
it already is, lol
woven otter
they are so lazy. can't even dedicate their free time to work on a non-profit project
bunch of jerks
spiral obsidian
use spigot
heavy magnet
wide chasm
Since when are we using word art again? Cause that text at the top looks disgusting.
night shore
void void
i am not in fyrom
wide chasm
Taco spigot is great
void void
proff?
golden gust
It's like; Such a beautiful food; Only uncultured swines don't understand it
pulsar wigeon
imagine if we could take a taco and wrap it in something so it doesn't fall apart so easily
slim nymph
not atm because of assholes
wide chasm
Aikar doesn't play with Java 7 /s
slim nymph
owner of server decided that they really wanted to wipe everyone and make everyone start over so they can make it even more grindy
quasi valley
slim nymph
well i had played there because it had made it less grindy, but they want to push back towards the default hardcore grindy
it was "Reasonable" rate boost, not insane
gloomy warren
umm - make your own ark(?) server?
slim nymph
IE the slowest raise dinosaur would take 1 day instead of 2 weeks
i have too much going on in life atm, is why ive been mia, i was playing that game to NOT take on any MORE responsibility lol
upper flicker
jesus
wide chasm
I made one commit, but with that amount of money there may be one for me as well /s
slim nymph
i got an mc server im struggling to find time for mentally, i cant run an ark server
trying to find ways to reduce responsibility lol
pulsar wigeon
tell chickeneer to step up his game
slim nymph
he is lol, hes owning it for me atm
gloomy warren
I'm having the same problem... skipping 1.14 to get the server to a newer version^^
slim nymph
chickens the rock star for this 1.14 update
pulsar wigeon
like smh he couldn't even figure out how to DFU some old schematics :^)
wide chasm
336 tacos and 136 contributors is at least 2 for each one /s
slim nymph
@pulsar wigeon we talked on that last night, that sounds like something WE should be doing if an old schem loads
are you not?
slim nymph
and we have some pending conversion improvements @spare venture, there should never be a reason to use --forceUpgrade, chunks should be able to convert on demand
golden gust
hai aikar, wen u bak thx â€ïž
pulsar wigeon
you can try turning it back on, but a) we won't dfu your custom stuff anyway and b) you will have to figure out what's broken
slim nymph
was working fine for us in 1.13, unless mojang rewrote X -> 1.13 code in 1.14where 1.14's is broken, shouldnt be any diff
slim nymph
didnt need any of our custom stuff, only custom thing we store is itemstacks that would need converting and i cant think of any thing wed be storing an item on an entity for....
strange aspen
how's it going, 1.15 playing ball so far?
slim nymph
@spare venture right + bukkit has some things screwed up, I fixed that in our fork by using LEGACY DFU for 1.X > 1.13 then 1.13+ uses new DFU
strange aspen
tacos over patches? go their priorities in order then
pulsar wigeon
you can test it if you want, just have to swich these lines https://github.com/EngineHub/WorldEdit/blob/master/worldedit-core/src/main/java/com/sk89q/worldedit/extent/clipboard/io/MCEditSchematicReader.java#L95-L97
gloomy warren
they're feeding the goblins
pulsar wigeon
and empty the compat handlers above, in line 75 and 82
that is our original system
zealous knot
Why donât we get a bot that regex matches 1.15 and when and bans the sender
wide chasm
Because you don't want to ban everyone who says 1.15.
zealous knot
I said 1.15 and when
slim nymph
@spare venture warning huge diff as I literally ported 1.12's code into the repo lol https://github.com/starlis/empirecraft/blob/master/patches/server/0094-Legacy-Data-Converter.patch
strange aspen
ye, judging by the number of eta requests I saw earlier, might have to get more goblins. How about some Norwegian mountain trolls?
zealous knot
Exactly !
zealous knot
Oh hey aikar
slim nymph
hi lol
pulsar wigeon
DFU is lots of !!FUN!!
worn ember
Did Ark consume your life?
fallen jungle
I'm amazed you've been able to navigate DFU and even contribute to it, Aikar
golden gust
DFU is... interesting...
fallen jungle
I didn't understand a thing
unreal quarry
Quick! Someone handcuff Aikar to the table while he's here so he can't leave again
slim nymph
DFU is stricter as it requires strict versioning, you have to know source version, and getting any version data wrong will error
strange aspen
out of curiosity, which MC update was the hardest, and which was the easiest, so far?
slim nymph
the issue is, pre 1.13, we never STORED source version
1.12's system used heuristics so that it can detect "Should I update", not needing a source ver
pulsar wigeon
and yea aikar that's the issue we ran into with converting schematics
worn ember
my pp is the hardest
pulsar wigeon
dfu would just constantly error if you put in something from before 1.12 probably
slim nymph
yep, and someone like us with a world from 2012....
we have A LOT of mixed versions
in our fork, at least as of 1.13, I was able to convert chunks from 2012 just fine
pulsar wigeon
idk it works for snapshots but not schematics
possibly because we don't have the whole chunk tag
so we can only dfu individual TEs
ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
worn ember
whats DFU?
slim nymph
mojangs dumb name, data fixer upper
worn ember
slim nymph
thats the actual official name
unreal quarry
Dun fucked up
worn ember
sounds like something swedish cucks would name their software
fallen jungle
It represents the code itself - the name is just as hard to understand as the code
So could be worse I guess
slim nymph
dfu is the result of when you let a junior engineer with crazy ideas run wild without supervision and questioning if its actually helping
pulsar wigeon
engineer
more like mathematician
slim nymph
well, i take it hes both lol
worn ember
sounds like they hired City
fallen jungle
Doubt City would be able to get that thing working
golden gust
over-engineered messes appears to more be their speciality these days đŠ
golden gust
Streams, wooo \o/
slim nymph
but still, the question should of been asked "Do we have any serious shortcomings with our current system that prevents us from solving a problem? Is our current system architecturally flawed to warrant a reimagination? Is the time spent fixing the system close or more than the cost to rewrite the system?"
My answer to all 3 would have been no
and with those 3 questions, DFU should of never been created
its a fun pet project
but it did not solve problems, it created more
worn ember
god i want to smash this guy his mouth in xD
slim nymph
who? i agree with that statement!
fallen jungle
I don't understand how you all manage to grow it that big
worn ember
you cant even convert a dynmap version so you really have no right to speak
slim nymph
i dont even have any windows install, not even a vm
fallen jungle
I've ran Windows on my PC for over 5 years and it has never grown to be over 20 GB
limber knotBOT
SAme here
worn ember
I've only found linux to be that annoying kid that sometimes does what you ask it to and more often than not pisses its own pants and asks you to fix it
pulsar wigeon
huh
worn ember
sounds like a you problem
pulsar wigeon
^
balmy shuttle
i have used windows for.... hmmmm 26 years now... still a happy user
void void
pulsar wigeon
my work laptop's Windows folder is sitting at >30gb so far and still counting...
and this laptop is from like...a year ago at most?
balmy shuttle
used various nix and bsd systems too but mostly for servers.
serene bolt
pulsar wigeon
serene bolt
Nope, but I do have system restore points off
iron summit
slim nymph
thats pretty dangerous with windows
upper flicker
windows will scale up and down resource usage depending on the specs of the machine afaik
caching, ram use, etc
thats a pretty large discrepancy, would be curious to see what the diff is there
3 years worth of upgrade packages or something?
pulsar wigeon
caching, ram use, etc shouldn't affect Windows folder size tho?
but yea i can see update files taking a lot of space
upper flicker
depends what its caching and where
limber knotBOT
it has a disk clear down you do realise that
worn ember
i bet barty is like my sister and installs everything that has a "click me" button
upper flicker
you can cache lots of stuff on disk
fallow fox
limber knotBOT
id click it
silk narwhal
worn ember
I'm just bullying you tho
balmy shuttle
Try running a disk cleanup and tell it to murder all the crap windows update left behind.
worn ember
ur still triggered so its going fine xD
golden gust
fwiw, windows also does some weird linking stuff in the windows folder iirc
serene bolt
Curious what Disk Cleanup looks like for anyone with a large windows folder, mine seems pretty low
limber knotBOT
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golden gust
Their entire setup is just a magestical fuckfest of mismashed stuff over the years
fallen oracle
What's up gamers
worn ember
i'd use linux if it was actually usable for the average consumer. And i don't want to pay 50% more for some gay apple logo so i'll stick to windows
send bobs
golden gust
be careful what you wish for
pulsar wigeon
yea sure enough mostly install stuff
which is unsurprising i guess cuz company IT shoves updates and forced restarts on like a weekly basis
limber knotBOT
duckn't https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2F5TX28dM8mf0%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&f=1&nofb=1 here you go
worn ember
lets not go ubuntu style
serene bolt
yeah I don't even have the installer folder showing up
worn ember
whats the graph from?
serene bolt
TreeSize
inland fiber
Windows is great
hexed wyvern
đ€
pulsar wigeon
i used windirstat
fallen jungle
Wait but that means we've had Windows XP at some point, because I remember using that
quasi valley
much epic
bitter spindle
worn ember
wide chasm
Windows 7 best version imo - still use it actually
wide chasm
My laptop is, main pc is on 7 still
golden gust
I literally couldn't cope with 128G of space
serene bolt
pretty sure my .m2 and .gradle folders are the biggest in my user directory
fallen jungle
I don't need much I guess since I don't play games
fallen jungle
What was the URL for that game
zealous knot
lol