your loss
#general
limber knotBOT
does discord at least have /me yet? xD
shell vine
thought your name was familiar
limber knotBOT
thanks ;D
limber knotBOT
needs a way to roleplay in a chat
golden gust
test*test
native thunder
Why doesn't discord have theme support
It's electron. Just let us load css classes k thx
golden gust
Discord is scared that people are actually capable of making decent things
quasi valley
because discord's designers prolly sleep for 7 hours of their 8 hour shift
native thunder
Also the fact that certain things are client validated is a joke. Looking at you slowmode
limber knotBOT
you can easily add custom css by using the DevTools
it's just chrome after all
or, you know, use a real client with actual theme support cough ripcord cough
golden gust
that's illegal
limber knotBOT
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
golden gust
1.76G here right now RIP
limber knotBOT
ripcord sits at 23MB
void void
loool F
woven otter
https://i.imgur.com/iM2uxRw.png
your gain you mean?
limber knotBOT
it's almost as if HTML is extremely inefficient when it comes to building desktop apps
golden gust
mah chrome instances!
limber knotBOT
but noth everything about ripcord is nice, e.g. it's not open source...
so I can't fix all the design choices that annoy me :(
probably have to write my own client eventually or something -.-
limber knotBOT
they can't catch me when I'm on the other side! :P
potent warren
Hmmmm, how do I structure a gradle project whose submodules are on different git repos?
quasi valley
void void
see how sponge did it i guess?
potent warren
is that a weird question to ask? 🤔
golden gust
git submodules?
It's not really an ideal setup to have, however, tbh
Unless you're basically pinning stuff consistently and your submodules rarely change or you have some hefty organisational reasons to do so
potent warren
I just wanted the submodules to be on different git repos
Might not be what I'm looking for then
I guess this is the XY problem I basically have a core module that's going to be present on other modules.
Maybe use the maven local repo?
merry talon
inefficient to run, way more efficient to build
I'm okay with that trade off in this case
potent warren
Sweepy, sorry for the question, but which one are you talking about?
potent warren
oof
golden gust
That's more a seperate project in its own right, putting that in a submodule would just create pointless complexity that you likely don't need
potent warren
oh, I see.
So I guess using the maven local repo is the way to go when depending on the "core" module?
dapper nacelle
the things I just discovered...
PHP inside of JavaScript inside of HTML is possible
I basically wrote stage 4 cancer
potent warren
of course it is, JustDylan.
merry talon
talking about electron
potent warren
oh
dapper nacelle
I am not
potent warren
After all, PHP is a pre-processor.
dapper nacelle
I guess
since javascript is an interpreted language its pretty free to do whatever you want with it
writing javascript on the spot
merry talon
its JIT
faint ledge
dapper nacelle
and PhpStorm
drifting kraken
man, paper is running so well on my odroid-xu4
stone silo
yuck, PHP
it's not terrible if you do it right, but most people don't do it right
and even when it is, it's a worse experience than most
same goes for JS
golden gust
merry talon
server side JS is the best option we have right now imo
when you use typescript and all that
merry talon
well that's awfully subjective
stone silo
the way JS handles exports/includes is janky at best
you don't get any nice built in thing like dependency injection
merry talon
but you can clearly measure that node is a good balance between dev time and capability
yeah if you use vanilla JS..
stone silo
I disagree
TS is just typed JS
there's just so many better languages out there that don't take very long at all to spin up with... Python, C#, Ruby, etc
and this is coming from a dev who started with PHP and JS, weakly typed languages make my skin crawl
merry talon
you're going to us JS on the front end either way
it's nice when it's all the same thing
stone silo
until web assembly is available for widespread use, yes
and I disagree, there's enough difference between the way you write code for the front end and backend that language shouldn't really matter
and hybrid backend/frontend frameworks tend to needlessly obfuscate the technologies that tie them together
void void
stone silo
additionally, JS not being threaded by nature and having to rely so much on async tasks is a nightmare
callback hell got replaced with promise hell
void void
merry talon
I think that's part of what makes js great with asnc/await, so 🤷
less shit to deal with when it doesn't matter that much
a lot of people seem to agree
for modern web dev going the way of serverless and stuff like that
I was never a weeb that's filthy
pulsar wigeon
barty go back to selling diamonds for cash
woven otter
barty dollars
pulsar wigeon
nah, you can't even buy diamonds with bartybucks
woven otter
shit currency
shell vine
mojang fixing performance?? 😮
stone silo
@merry talon forced async causes a ton of problems. Nothing wrong with async, it's just that having literally no other option is so hard to work with. As far as async/await, that's been implemented in other languages for a pretty long time and I agree works pretty well. It's glorious in C#.
pulsar wigeon
it's glorious in c# because the compiler does the work for you
the underlying architecture is the same in pretty much every language
merry talon
you can make things sync by just awaiting on them
stone silo
technically it's the runtime, but yea
merry talon
no one is forcing anything
stone silo
no I just mean the forced nature of JS being aync/non-dom-blocking
JS evolved from the front end, so a ton of the back end stuff is async when it doesn't really need to be
pulsar wigeon
wut
the compiler compiles all async methods into state machienes
that just store all your locals and then execute everything before/after each await call
stone silo
gotcha, okay I was mistaken
pulsar wigeon
look at this guy making $250 a month
high roller
i mean you were if they disabled your store...?
isn't that what you just said
:oof:
merry talon
well he's making more than $250 but has it dedicated to hookers and blow
so he's not making that much profit
my paypal is banned because I submitted ID like they told me to
so ur fine
upper flicker
Underage at the time?
upper flicker
I think they usually only care if they catch you while you’re underage, if you created before but they don’t catch you I think you’re okay
But it’s paypal so who really knows
Probably changed that policy 100 times
limber knotBOT
I had to use Post-Ident to get a paypal account. but that's normal for any other internet bank account in germany so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
shell vine
i started when i was 19 ez
merry talon
they've been ignoring my emails
so I've just been trying to muster up the motivation to call them
because it's not like I ever used it
shell vine
just go on 😉
those are easy to win
its the credit card chargebacks that will get ya
AND take additional 20 dollars per transaction for fees
ive lost like 300 dollars from fees just from one person a while ago 😦
void void
@golden gust https://github.com/PaperMC/Waterfall/tree/illegal-packets why new branch
it looks fine
golden gust
Intent is to expand upon it a bit before hand
I don't wanna push out something I've not finished working on fully, but that is some level of pushing myself to get some stuff done even if I feel like shit \o/
stuck swallow
When using this for a server does it only need to be installed on the server or does each client require it?
Ahh Ok Thanks appreciate it
Another question
@spare venture does it change much gameplay wise?
woven otter
barty 
stuck swallow
Vanilla
drifting kraken
i am doubting my faith in paper, the server running on my xu4 is much faster on low playercounts with paper but has gc issues at larger playercounts such as 7
the first part is a joke btw
odroid-xu4
arm sbc with four A15 cores and four A7 cores
2gb ram shared with gpu
using the recommended ones with -Xms and -Xmx set to 1500M
cpu can handle it
and yes it's on 1.14
cpu can handle it as long as the memory is fast enough, which it is
i need to do a bottom-up optimization at some point
cpu can handle it with paper but ram cant, ram can handle it with spigot but cpu cant
tempted to switch back to spigot and just optimize the everloving darn out of every single interrupt and kernel thing
and recompile the jvm non-generically which i should've been doing in the first place
upper flicker
Spigot will stop ticking entities when the tick time goes over a cap
And on an xu4 it’s going to be doing that a lot
Paper doesn’t do that at all, so that’s likely why
drifting kraken
again, spigot fits under the memory limit at 15 users but paper does not at 8
upper flicker
I have an xu4 and an n2 on my desk
The xu4 isn’t ever going to run 1.14 well beyond 10 players
And mine handles about that just fine
drifting kraken
hm
upper flicker
Starts to get bad at around 12, unusable by 15
drifting kraken
anything you've found that is a big performance change for the xu4 ?
upper flicker
No but I haven’t run into your issue where one takes so much more memory
drifting kraken
alright, ill look into this then
might be that my current image turns off zram for some reason
unlikely but i should check it when i do the de-genericizing
upper flicker
I was running on jdk11 with some pretty explicit memory limits though
golden gust
zram acts as swap iirc, so you're going to get some weird behavior around that
In low memory environments, you're also going to want to disable features such as async chunks and avoid features which add more work such as anti-xray
drifting kraken
anti-xray is already off, ill turn off async chunks
there's multiple kinds of zram, in this case i'm talking about system-wide memory compression
golden gust
I know, but that's not magical
it just exposes a block device which is in ram and mounts it as a swap partition
wind mauve
.cake @upper flicker
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) I can't give a cake to that user.
wind mauve
Oh :(
unreal quarry
.cake Z750
limber knotBOT
makes Z750 a delectable small Stack cake and serves it with a small glass of chocolate milk!
unreal quarry
runs away
limber knotBOT
@void void [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
void void
1.8.8 is not supported?
woven otter
yes
woven otter
1.13.2 is the oldest version that is still supported
void void
i have around 150$ anyone knows good way for promoting server?
vestal jasper
weird flex but ok
woven otter
I will tell you my secrets for 150$
vestal jasper
I'll say your server's name to a friend for $150
woven otter
pay and you will know
quasi valley
I'll do it for 149!
void void
148$?
woven otter
I'll do it for 147$
vestal jasper
I'll give you keywords to google for mc advertising for $150
void void
yeah trollers here like always
woven otter
I'm not trolling
void void
ok
quasi valley
paying for promo is meh
vestal jasper
I'm serious, toss me $150 and I'll tell you how to use google.
woven otter
toss me 149.99$ I will tell you the same things Vic will tell you
but you will save money
that's always good
and important for your server
how to properly save money
as you can see vic didn't give you a chance to save money
woven otter
I'll do it for 1 cent less than vic
quasi valley
what if the other does it for free
olive garden
I will advertise it for $160
vestal jasper
I'll even put the dollar sign in the correct place for FREE
quasi valley
do you tthen pay 1 cent?
woven otter
I'll tell vic to shut up for free
vestal jasper
:^)
quasi valley
that's a great price!
lunar marlin
end process
woven otter
Well you first mistake was using Windows
lunar marlin
xp>w10
quasi valley
templeos > win
pulsar wigeon
woven otter
kennyos > win
quasi valley
hell yea
quasi valley
god has told me not to make it open source
sorry
he also told me that ducks taste delicious
wide chasm
Well he was right about one thing at least
pulsar wigeon
i mean tbh anyone can figure that out themselves
pulsar wigeon
you don't need to appeal to divine authority to understand that ducks are delicious
woven otter
it hurts
pulsar wigeon
simple empirical experiments can prove it
woven otter
wiz I hope someone pings you
quasi valley
@wizjäny
woven otter
@wіzjany
quasi valley
wow what a hacker
wide chasm
He hacks governments on the daily
woven otter
Κе𝗇𝗇уΤᏙ
quasi valley
then you are the thing that is suspicious
wide chasm
Duck hacks 17 governments and continues to do so
Local authorities report that their systems have been hacked by an unknown duck. They suspect this was done by tracking their IP with GUI in Visual Basic. The duck is also known to talk in hacker language - popularly known as leetspeak. The criminal intent of the duck was clear after they found a message on hacker website IRC by the duck: "Qu3ck".
woven otter
0h 5h17 n33d t0 g0
wide chasm
This is how journalism works in 2019, right?
onyx venture
anyone using BannerBoards?
neon dagger
Why does Mojang keep adding stuff to the overworld when the last Nether update feels like it happened a billion years ago?
unreal quarry
Why does Mojang keep adding stuff when so much existing stuff is broken/slow?
stone silo
Because the nether is bullshit
tbh I think they should make minecarts a priority
they're so useless now, except for farms
dapper nacelle
imagine if your IDE could mask the obfuscated names with deobfuscated names using the obfuscation maps from Mojang
idk
it sounded logical in my head, though my thoughts are Dutch not English
upper flicker
No reason it couldn’t
dapper nacelle
^
upper flicker
Just need a plug in to parse their format and hook into ij
static badge
maybe demon boy will do it 
woven otter
ahh shit any of you know how to make it so sftp user is restricted to one dir where he can read/write files in ubuntu?
the problem is that dir for ChrootDirectory has to be owned by root but i'm trying to restrict it to /var/www/site/public_html/folder/
woven otter
well that's the issue. I'm not sure how to do this properly.
chroot directory must be owned by root.
I mean I tried mount --bind to bind it to the folder I want user to access but the problem is that you can't create folders there even if the mounted dir is owned by the user I'm giving access to. I can confirm that I mounted it correctly by just creating folder by another user and then just checking with the restricted user
stiff yarrow
woven otter
what's that
quasi valley
That’s a
unreal quarry
@stone silo minecarts aren't useless on purpur. I made them wasd controllable with configurable speeds for the block they are on. When not on rails, they're more like cars ^_^
wide chasm
Should've called it PurSquared /s
unreal quarry
That doesn't fit with the actual story behind its name, tho. Purpur is my fork of paper I started when drunk. Purpur sounds like a drunk person trying to say paper. :P
wide chasm
So, do you have to be drunk if you want to make a paper fork, or is that just optional?
quasi valley
And concrete has its name because leaf always wants to smash his head into it?
static badge
concrete is rock-solid
static badge
u only wish that u could fork concrete and not paper
void void
anyone know a fix trying to run a local server
[23:46:27 WARN]: The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: bind
[23:46:27 WARN]: Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
[23:46:27 INFO]: Stopping server
[23:46:27 INFO]: Saving players
Press any key to continue . . .
woven otter
concrete is so heavy
quasi valley
So thicc
static badge
LUL
that's called running too fast 
wait did it really catch on fire tf
I need answers
quasi valley
Would have been to good
quasi valley
concete is just too lit
static badge
fuk u
quasi valley
Too much paper is also harmful for the environment
stone silo
@unreal quarry is that a datapack or a plugin?
stone silo
oh duh yeah I didn't read\
gloomy sphinx
this spartan dude made a whole thread crying about a 1 star review and how the guy should be banned for leaving it!
imagine if sellers could edit reviews or remove them lol
wide chasm
Resource devs always cry about reviews
limber knotBOT
quasi valley
He also advertises his anticheat to each and everyone leaving a negative review on AAC
gloomy sphinx
lol
wide chasm
I'm still pro removing reviews altogether.
quasi valley
sent me his crap even twice
quasi valley
And apparently he also releases random updates with little to even no changes after an aac update, so he appears above it in the lists
Tho not 100 percent sure on that one, only heard a few people talk about this
wide chasm
Wouldn't be the first one to post non updates.
gloomy sphinx
he got his little gang of virgin fedora wearing minecrafters to agree that bad reviews should be removable
wide chasm
I've seen people use their update section as a sale ad board.
gloomy sphinx
hilarious
quasi valley
People are great
wide chasm
Honestly, we should just go back to dev.bukkit.org. No reviews, no premium resources and their plugin manager has a lot more features than spigot.
quasi valley
Tho reviews do have their purpose
dapper nacelle
I don't feel like rolling out a new release for any minor changes to the code that fixed avarage priority level bugs
gloomy sphinx
reviews are good even if you get some troll ones
there is a reason average rating exists
wide chasm
If the reviews get removed I'll have a party
quasi valley
What’s so bad about them?
gloomy sphinx
yeah i actually agree with them
wide chasm
The discussion area and download counter give a far better overview of quality imo
quasi valley
Hmm not really
gloomy sphinx
i dont agree
you can just download your own plugin 100x
^
like @pulsar wigeon worldedit /s
quasi valley
Like closed source essentials clones with literally no features but full of bugs
wide chasm
Is 10k high though? Imo not really.
gloomy sphinx
10k is pretty high
dapper nacelle
1 star reviews about complaints for things not being supported while there was clearly stated it was not supported are useless imo
quasi valley
Especially if the plugin is only 1-3 months old
quasi valley
Given the example I saw
gloomy sphinx
and there is a reason average ratings exist
the buyer can see oh! is this a troll review
or a legitimate
wide chasm
The average rating is even worse imo
gloomy sphinx
stefvschie
unreal quarry
I think 1 star reviews should be removed if they are just dumb. Like the 1 star review I got for not making dolphins ridable on 1.8
gloomy sphinx
maybe violated the tos?
stone silo
maybe have something next to the star like "I have a problem with this plugin"
stone silo
then you could ignore probably all of those
gloomy sphinx
silly wiz
quasi valley
I mean sure reviews can be abused by stupid people, but in the end they are helpful and normal people can instantly see which ones they can ignore
gloomy sphinx
i agree
gloomy sphinx
why?
if the person gives a bad review
they would give a bad rating too
i agree
pulsar wigeon
each user can rate a resource once, rating get averaged and only averages show
pulsar wigeon
users can leave a review whenever, but don't confer any rating
gloomy sphinx
what hapens when the product breaks
dapper nacelle
I have like 25 downloads on my latest release and 3 people I never spoke to left a 5 star review, thats pretty epic ngl
gloomy sphinx
yet they give it a 5 star
wide chasm
Sure, but you either go through reviews manually or through discussion manually. And since one of those generates a thread of complaints every week, I'd scrap them.
gloomy sphinx
seems flawed
quasi valley
Well if you can only see average ratings then you can’t differentiate from troll ratings
Ye
gloomy sphinx
who has time to filter reviews when buyers have brains?
and a single 1 star does not affect much
same
imagine if amazon did this
dapper nacelle
Depends on the total
gloomy sphinx
imagine all the social engineering sellers could do to get a perfect 5 star by removing 1 stars?
that would be nuts
you'd have to be stupid to believe that is ok
unreal quarry
It's not a product, tcc.. have you even read the tos of spigot's resources? You are promised only 1 download. Updates and future compatibility are not gauranteed
gloomy sphinx
what makes it not a product?
an article or substance that is manufactured or refined for sale.
anything for sale is a product
software or hardware
i dont see where it says you are promised 1 download
unreal quarry
Go read the tos
gloomy sphinx
even if, you still can't make it possible to remove reviews unless they violate the TOS
quasi valley
If you stop fixing bugs or such a day after release, you’re getting dumped
Let that be a game or an mc plugin
dapper nacelle
JuSt DoN't MaKe BuGs
quasi valley
^
wide chasm
Changelog: Deleted all bugs
quasi valley
Well time for sleep, goodbye 👀
dapper nacelle
Same
gloomy sphinx
but its 3pm?
wide chasm
Welcome to Europe, it's night
vestal jasper
fun seeing plugins get 1 star review bombed for removing support for 1.8
unreal quarry
@gloomy sphinx
wide chasm
I got one 2 star and one 4 star for that, so I'd say I survived pretty well
vestal jasper
a 4 star 
gloomy sphinx
interesting
wide chasm
My average dropped by a whole .01!!!
neon dagger
woven otter
.rekt
limber knotBOT
☑ The REKTtiticaca
merry talon
Billy have you considered PMing the person and explaining that dolphins did not exist in 1.8
that's quite easy to understand
unreal quarry
Actually, he ended up removing the review on his own later. Guess he realized how dumb he sounded (or someone else told him something)
static badge
what review
pulsar wigeon
hot gorge
I gave you a 1 star as well for making rabbits not ridable
upper flicker
Fish aren’t rideable on beta 1.7.3 either, that’s -1 stars for you
unreal quarry
This is still my favorite review I got for ridables http://i.imgur.com/Qpe6Fnm.png
woven otter
oh no not the chunk errows
fair cargo
limber knotBOT
So in order to use this Avid video editing software on macOS apparently you have to disable SIP
limber knotBOT
Then a Chrome update a couple days ago apparently didn't get tested with SIP disabled and overwrote some critical OS files on systems that have it disabled
ancient bolt
er to not use the software
ancient bolt
how does that just happen though is what I'm asking
limber knotBOT
They work until you reboot since the file is still open until then
ancient bolt
what fucking code was overwriting system files
limber knotBOT
Chrome, apparently
ancient bolt
yeah...
limber knotBOT
#FuckChrome
ancient bolt
why does an editor need SIP disabled
limber knotBOT
Probably writes to some directory that doesn't make sense but used to be harmless
And you basically buy a Mac Pro just to use this software so any changes you need to make it run are just accepted
ancient bolt
lol...
at least the fix is easy
boot into recovery mode and just run a few commands
limber knotBOT
Reinstall macOS?
limber knotBOT
Depending on what got wiped out it might be boot into recovery mode and reinstall macOS
Which won't really hurt anything else, other than Avid probably since it's putting files in OS locations
ancient bolt
recovery mode should have all the affected files..
limber knotBOT
Otherwise it just moves the old /System away and copies over a new one, your users and configs don't get touched
upper flicker
Editors frequently have SIP disabled to widen the supported gpu configurations (Apple disabled it over thunderbolt 2 for... reasons) and to apply random snake oil tuning changes
I don’t work with editors anymore so I can’t pull the AVID base image and see but it may ship with SIP disabled
Tbh wouldn’t surprise me
The AVID windows image is like monkaS
peak dirge
Proof that Firefox is a superior browser 😄
ancient bolt
firefox has been better since quantum
peak dirge
Even if they fucked up with addons earlier this year
ancient bolt
but I just don't want to change browsers that's such a hassle...
and chrome's google integration does come with more advantages
upper flicker
tbh I dont even have chrome installed on my mbp
it puts a lot of weird shit in a lot of weird places
some of it might be apple's fault for letting them
but I'd much rather just download whatever the latest chromium build is and run that then let chrome litter the filesystem with random crap
ancient bolt
wow ur an apple shill
upper flicker
the lead for keystone was on hackernews explaining what happened
at no point did they really say they'd make it better or apologize or anything
did not really look good for them
peak dirge
sadly, WebKit has eaten the world, and really only Gecko is left
upper flicker
tbh I dont even have a problem with WebKit
it's google's blink fork that seems to be the problem
webkit has been conservative as hell in implementing random ass features
last I looked webusb and webbluetooth were marked as "not interested" or something
"Not Considering" thats what it was
not as fun as not interested
firefox's performance and efficiency improvements are finally starting to come to fruition on macOS though, which means I don't really have much reason to not recommend it
and safari went and murdered their entire extension ecosystem
peak dirge
Firefox also did something similar with the switch to Quantum, but they were bound to crack quite a few eggshells because Chrome was eating their lunch
vestal jasper
It's lit
stiff yarrow
apple products 😊
unreal quarry
firefox eats your CPU like chrome eats your RAM. so, take your pick
merry talon
Trying to play just cause 3 and it keeps "attempting online login" which takes like a minute every time I try to do something
this doesn't count as offline play when I still can't play uninterrupted square enix
annoying as shit
tame pendant
What's the difference between hopper-transfer and hopper-check in spigot.yml?
unreal quarry
@tame pendant https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/spigot-configuration/
void void
^ sniped me
tame pendant
thanks
tame pendant
I was actually just looking at that one and it didn't make sense, which is why i asked
they both seem like the same thing
void void
hopper-transfer -> how often do i pull items from a known inventory
hopper-check -> how often do i check if there is even an inventory
tame pendant
ah, ok, thanks
void void
(at least, that's what i understand)
vivid oyster
I dont know if Im asking in this right area. Is anyone interested on helping me with making a server?
tame pendant
wait, but then wouldn't it make sense for check to be greater than transfer?
void void
No
@vivid oyster
and @tame pendant, I have no idea why the default values are what they are
tame pendant
ok, I'll keep looking
vivid oyster
okay and second where might i learn to code plugins?
tame pendant
Do you already know Java?
I learned from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4zbqtpLaS4 if you wanna try that
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Spigot Plugin Development - 1 - Your First Plugin 🚰 - length 8m 51s - 248 likes, 9 dislikes (96.5%) - 19,438 views - Kody Simpson on 2018.05.19
void void
You need to learn Java. After that, https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/spigot-plugin-development/
vivid oyster
Where would you recommend for java?
void void
Yikes 😭 Fucking "Spigot Coding Videos"
Uh
Have you ever programmed at all?
That is gonna influence my answer
vivid oyster
Yes I have only discord bots that was for a small time
Do I remember anything? Hardly
void void
I'm not sure if it's free but this is promising https://codegym.cc/
There is also Codecademy. Their free version gives you all the lessons, but no projects (you really do need to apply your skills with projects to reinforce your learning)
Erm. It depends on what kind of learner you are. There is also a free Java WikiBook (full textbook) and many videos online.
But please, learn first. Don't try to just make plugins. Recipe for disaster.
We don't need even more people clearing chat by copying and pasting
player.sendMessage("");
player.sendMessage("");
player.sendMessage("");
player.sendMessage("");
player.sendMessage("");
player.sendMessage("");
player.sendMessage("");
...
You'll have to change your nick to "JustAnotherDylan
vivid oyster
lol thanks so much
stiff yarrow
send 20 blank lines
void void
i--
tawdry coyote
ezpz player.kick
gloomy sphinx
nossr looks like an egg
stiff yarrow
thx fam
limber knotBOT
o.o
void void
nossr and egg same person confirmed
limber knotBOT
Indeed
neon dagger
Man the FAWE Discord became kinda annoying not gonna lie.
stiff yarrow
Share pics egg
vestal jasper
🥚
peak dirge
dropping the cheeky nickname at last
void void
nossr looks like the mcmmo guy
peak dirge
besides, my school schedule never lets me work on Canyon 😢
drowsy acorn
idle gorge
native thunder
Hey maybe check faq #8
charred hound
void void
flint dawn
heady spear
stop scamming kids on the internet you evil bastard
stone locust
woven otter
no it's justice
pulsar wigeon
i am gross
woven otter
u filthy human
wintry barn
rich phoenix
void void
royal jetty
wide chasm
I imagine he's rolling in his curse points
celest coyote
he hasn't blown all his money on nitro so I doubt it
woven otter
he probably has lost money on worldedit
pulsar wigeon
certainly lost a lot of my life on it
pulsar wigeon
Required by:
project :worldguard-bukkit > com.destroystokyo.paper:paper-api:1.14.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:20190924.231935-51
> Could not resolve net.md-5:bungeecord-chat:1.13-SNAPSHOT.
> Unable to load Maven meta-data from https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots/net/md-5/bungeecord-chat/1.13-SNAPSHOT/maven-metadata.xml.
> Could not HEAD 'https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots/net/md-5/bungeecord-chat/1.13-SNAPSHOT/maven-metadata.xml'. Received status code 503 from server: Service Temporarily Unavailable
??????
native thunder
Man spigot servers have been struggling lately
pulsar wigeon
it's sonatype tho???
golden gust
ye but git rekt
pulsar wigeon
fuk u this is ur fault cat
native thunder
Gotta get 'em chat components
golden gust
.rekt
limber knotBOT
☑ Hachi: A Rekt Tale
pulsar wigeon
and the compiler can't resolve the string overload without BaseComponent being on the compile path
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
native thunder
Imagine not proxying your maven dependencies
pulsar wigeon
imagine sonatype being down
native thunder
Almost as bad as if maven central went down :)
potent warren
Is there a way to download an artifact from a jenkins build without having to specify the file name (eg. when the version of the build is in there)?
native thunder
Look at pins in #announcements
pulsar wigeon
what if the build has multiple artifacts..
golden gust
jenkins is a web server
pulsar wigeon
also yea if you're talking about paper, use the api
golden gust
It like... needs to know what you're tryna fetch...
potent warren
;-;
native thunder
You can grab latest successful build
potent warren
The file name can still change though
golden gust
Basically, unless jenkins has some API where you can list the artifacts or you wanna parse the page and regex it out or something, you're SOL
neat hornet
potent warren
I guess I'll have to ask on the Velocity discord ;-; Oh well, couldn't get the help from the smart people in here again.
pulsar wigeon
i think you can get a zip of all artifacts
but again, if there's more than one you would need to specify which artifact
celest sinew
stone silo
alright boys, gonna try to write my first datapack
try to make some sense out of this command language shit
wide chasm
Don't you just chain commands after each other for a datapack?
shell vine
speaking of jenkins i was thinking of setting one up for fun for the first time, is there any tips or tricks or recommendations to someone starting it for first time
olive hatch
nova badge
Havent touched docker in the 6 years of IT i've done.
limber knotBOT
then you are a way better sysadmin than I am 😂
before I had docker, i was breaking my shit left and right
with docker, you can't break shit, you just redeploy and you are done
nova badge
One box I have is running Jenkins, Apache2, Dev servers, Dev bungees, Gitlab, Maven server all without breaking yet x'D
Oh and mariadb/redis
That would be a prime example of when to actually use something like Docker.
golden gust
Oh god, I gave up with jenkins in docker
limber knotBOT
I run 22 container on this one vps alone ^^
golden gust
I had it working, and then I needed something, and I tried to fix it and just ended up calling "fuck it"
woven otter
sounds like abuse
limber knotBOT
TIL I have jira running
nova badge
Just remember containers do have overhead.
limber knotBOT
nothing noticeable
nova badge
Idk how much docker has specifically, but there is some
limber knotBOT
its not a virtual machine
nova badge
Its a container, it shares the host kernel.
limber knotBOT
its just cgroup trickery
nova badge
I know gitlab hates containers. I wonder if they made a docker image for that.
and if it runs in full kmz or containerized.
golden gust
I've been running gitlab inside of docker
had to fight it for some things, but it works
nova badge
I was trying to run gitlab in a proxmox container last time. Didn't actually try it with docker, so docker is more of a chroot instead of an actual container.
nova badge
It uses openvz containers or full kvm virtualization.
and the openvz containers share the host kernel and act as a glorified chroot, so when you run gitlab under a ovz container you need to edit the sysctl.conf variables on the host for them to pass down the the container.
limber knotBOT
ah
golden gust
lxc > ovz
limber knotBOT
youtubes hates me, just went from a deadmau5 chill mix to a video called "deadmau5 - The Not So Chill Mix"
nova badge
shivers
golden gust
has too many horrors from ovz and their 20 year old kernel
nova badge
I think proxmox runs the opvz images on lxc, honestly can't remember.
golden gust
Not that lxc in and of itself isn't a complete pain in the ass at times
nova badge
"Proxmox VE uses LXC as underlying container technology. "
nova badge
Everything works until you're an hour away from technology.
At least thats how it is at my job.
nova badge
void void
???
hes saying you'll probably get more responses there, but this isn't a bad place to ask either i guess, though i don't know of anyone who does modelling
Ow... Its not easy to find someone...
Sux
limber knotBOT
use mcm
stone silo
I use Docker for all my home lab stuff
a couple of months ago I got hacked and I went from reinstalling the OS to back to 100% working order in about an hour.
and that also included a shift from ubuntu to CentOS
golden gust
CentOS
stone silo
?
golden gust
I just... cent... bad experiences...
hot gorge
Just your two cents
stone silo
I've not had an issue so far
golden gust
Their network management stuff is just stupid and "hey, lets be different"
stone silo
I've just got the basic shit, openssh, docker, samba
golden gust
Also, they reaaaaallly love old shit
golden gust
lulwut
I just had to google it
What kernel are they shipping?
Coz from a quick google i came across something that suggested that they're shipping an EOL release...
stone silo
3.10.0-957.el7.x86_64
rich phoenix
hello, my mc experience has been with forge/sponge only. i am trying to understand what types of servers that paper is used with. sorry for my lack of understanding.
golden gust
I mean, I would hope that they'd be using an LTS
Not a release which has already been EOL'd
quasi valley
limber knotBOT
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quasi valley
they're already coming for electroboy
shell vine
centos too old
golden gust
limber knotBOT
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golden gust
Should totally save that as .simple
void void
cat are you on catalina
woven otter
catalina
golden gust
Not yet
torpid mulch
static badge
Ingredients: cancer
shell vine
someone needs to make nutrition mod for spigot
i think there was one i saw but it was outdated
woven otter
burn those tacos
upper flicker
Duck stew time 🦆🍲
zealous knot
You mean like a nutrition plugin? Because the i'm literally playing the mod right now
icy pewter
Shouldnt be too hard to implement
marble dock
lets cross our fingers that the server admin for the server i play on is willing to do the fix for the sugarcane farm
stone silo
lol ok nvm the thing I want to do is going to have to be a plugin
oh well, I haven't written java in like 10 years
icy pewter
What is it
stone silo
the former sort of
icy pewter
oh nice
stone silo
just something where they can tag a container as their mailbox, if someone puts something in it, it notifies the person when they join the server
or every hour or whatever
icy pewter
Oh that's neat yea
stone silo
I like to send my members messages as books in their mailbox
icy pewter
allow the ability to send images using maps
stone silo
the mailboxes we have set up are a fence post with a barrel on top, and then a redstone torch on the side
icy pewter
stone silo
if I could toggle that redstone torch's state, you'd have a neat little visual indicator too
icy pewter
That can be done ye
stone silo
looks like I'm getting my IDE set up tonight
icy pewter
gl
void void
-.-
Freelance client wants me to work for them. Can't give me a full project description. Asks me to join mc server to see me. All I see is a bunch of chests with buttons.
"Can u make particles?"
"can u do dis?"
"can u ...?"
Please, god
I haven't even agreed to work yet. I need a full list of specs, before I even quote a price.
I hate ppl like dis
pulsar wigeon
bill him for it
if he needs to waste your time to show you in person (in MC anyway), bill him for your time :^)
void void
Honestly, too late for that, but good idea for next time.
(Not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, but I'm taking it as not sarcastic in any case because I can't stand the "come in MC and look" scenario)
nova badge
If you can't properly convey your vision of something, then how can you expect someone else to do it for you.
upper flicker
Only duck stews allowed
stone silo
@void void is it worth doing freelance like that?
maybe not in that specific scenario
void void
wdym
stone silo
I mean is there that many people that want custom stuff?
void void
My answer to this specific client is almost certainly no because they don't even know what they want. I've been told they want a custom perms plugin but they can't explain why another option won't work, and they want X, Y, and Z other things but can't describe them. Haven't even gotten to the price quotation yet, and I have further doubts they can even afford it as they are on an extremely cheap shared host.
But, I'm giving the benefit of the doubt until and unless I get a full spec sheet.
stone silo
sure
void void
Also not sure what you mean by "is there that many people that want custom stuff" as that's pretty much the entirety of the MC ecosystem
"custom enchants pl0x" is the most common request
stone silo
Just from the outside looking in it wouldn't seem like it'd be lucrative enough where people would actually want to pay for services like that. Game modding tends to be one of those things that's based on entitlement.
void void
Oh now I understand
You're right, they don't pay fairly
They want to pay $20-40 typically for something that takes upwards of 15+ hours or more.
Doesn't work for me.
I say no to most of them
stone silo
Got it
The more I get into the game the more I want to start looking into writing some QoL non-game-breaking mods. It's just bizarre to me that anyone, unless they're running a large server, would commission for things.
void void
Yup same
This specific client is not even established yet but is easily requesting $1000+ of work to be done
Again haven't got to the price quote, but I'm estimating that's where it will be if not more.
vestal jasper
Why does nez keep joining and leaving
I stg it's like the 5th time he's done it this week
void void
It's not uncommon from people on Spigot
I don't do it, but they are offers I've been given
graceful minnow
limber knotBOT
yep
can confirm
people have no idea of how long stuff takes to create and don't value your time in the least
I've been refusing any commission work under $500
void void
and get mad when you say the price is too low
limber knotBOT
I just straight up immediately tell them I don't take any work under $500
people who can't afford it leave mighty quickly
void void
thats actually a good idea
limber knotBOT
yeah got tired of having it at only $50
void void
you still get work?
limber knotBOT
yeah
void void
might implement a minimum price then, too
limber knotBOT
not as much obviously but I don't have time for anything under that amount anyway
I'd rather get 1 $500 project than 10 $50 projects
$100 is a good threshold if you want to get offers regularly imo, I just don't
void void
yup fair enough, but the biggest thing is that those $50 projects are NOT $50 projects typically
they're $500+ projects lmao
from cheapass bitches
limber knotBOT
yep
if your upfront price is high you get fewer unreasonable requests
and by fewer I mean next to none, really
void void
I have problems getting any clients (in mc, anyway), and the ones I do are unreasonable
so I have next to no work, sadly
:/
limber knotBOT
people don't seriously consider dropping $500 in a project without giving it some thought in the MC community
I still remember back when I had my min at like $25 I'd get people who just wanted a plugin and didn't actually know what they wanted it to do
void void
yeah thats my biggest pet peeve
it's like they want me to tell them what they want
and to some extent it is my job to help them come to a good outcome
but
no
i need a spec sheet.
limber knotBOT
at one point I started charging flat rates for stuff like long-term storage, third party dependencies, config files...
woven otter
that's actually a good idea both for threshold and flat rates
these things might lead me out of slavery
limber knotBOT
I was charging $25 per additional API
it was usually for stuff like checking a region through worldguard or managing some form of vault eco
drifting kraken
i gotta relearn java to do plugins for my server
couldnt find free plugins for what i want to do so gotta roll my own
limber knotBOT
drifting kraken
oh, no i know how to use java, i just havent used it in forever
limber knotBOT
it's not bad as a refresher
drifting kraken
hmm
stone silo
I haven't touched Java in 10 years... just reading through examples and the API though, my C# knowledge should transfer fine.
limber knotBOT
just don't start from the very start if you don't need to
mild kelp
frank crescent
void void
@stone silo most C# devs do well in Java, just don't bring your disgusting variable naming
stone silo
you mean PascalCase?
void void
Yes fuk u
stone silo
pascal is best
stone silo
what is java, camel?
stone silo
you dirty humped mammals
upper flicker
Most importantly tacos are like this 🌮
void void
even properties in java are camel
stone silo
ew
void void
classes are pascal
stone silo
that's so ugly
void void
also the only time I've used C# was in the bank i worked for under a senior dev who was retarded
and he did pascal for every variable
which made me literally sick
woven otter
imagine accidentally running gzip pattern * instead of zgrep pattern *
void void
oh also methods are camel
stone silo
my js and php days have scared me away from camel, but they do have their place
void void
getInt not GetInt
stone silo
oh, ew
void void
the only thing that's pascal are class names in java
void void
yes
woven otter
sends virtual chicken soup
cosmic raft
nou
woven otter
nah I initially wanted just udp. it's for minecraft query
void void
o
peak kite
anyone know how to make this work hehehe sudo nice -n -16 sudo taskset -c 0-17 sudo -u nonrootusername sudo chrt -r 1 java -jar paperserver.jar
trying to let minecraft use reserved cpus 9 and 13. But taskset won't assign BOTH grub dedicated cpus without using chrt but i don't wanna run minecraft server as root, chrt forces root.
woven otter
is that even a good idea
peak kite
Well, i want to let mc have the superclocked cpus, so they are set as reserved with grub and given to mcserver with taskset, but also have the other cores for dynmap use.
shell vine
waste of time to use taskset imo
peak kite
I don't know how it will pan out even if I can get it to work, so its probably not a proper way to do this. I would probably need to script a tool that set the taskset of java only if dynmap is running.
im not gonna run 18 cores at 5ghz, my cooler can't handle it. but 2 cores at 5ghz + well now... i could do it if I don't isolcpus them in grub, but im damn greedy
heady spear
I’m supposedly switching to Apple Music but whenever I play music I still open Spotify. Dumb Swedish shit app
Don’t want evil Swedish apps on my phone. They’re evil and Swedish
limber knotBOT
just change the icon and label of apple music to spotify? xD
heady spear
Sounds like a better solution because Apple Music is like kinda super bad in comparison
Same price though and supposedly a bigger library
peak kite
phanaticD do you have a better way, since taskset dosen't assign multiple cpus to a single process if they are reserved with isolcpus?
upper flicker
Apple Music’s suggestions and discover was better last I used it
But they didn’t have any way to listen on Linux at the time so I went back to Spotify
They have a web client now, but I’m pretty content with Spotify again
Oh well, if Spotify screws up I have an alternative again
limber knotBOT
I just use youtube videos (or my local library xD)
stone silo
local library++
peak kite
hmm "A simple but effective temporary solution is the use of tasket on the current shell."
https://github.com/snabbco/snabb/issues/476
heady spear
I don’t really listen to music on my desktop anyway so I’m Gucci, considering all my other devices are apple devices
Snabb means fast in Swedish, did a swede make that? If so, don’t trust it
Swedes are not trustworthy
peak kite
🤣 culture is NOT your friend.
void void
anyone knows a way to transferm a spawn to another world
without losing the npcs holograms and all that stuff
limber knotBOT
what do you mean by "transfer a spawn"?
void void
i have a spawn area in 1 world
which is custom
i want to put that spawn to normal world
i want to put this without losing the holograms npc and other small stuff into new generated world
limber knotBOT
that depends on how the plugins manage that, some save the data per-world, you'll have to look into each plugin's folder
void void
than only way is with world edit?
to copy it and put it in new world
and set up all again?
limber knotBOT
you could also just transfer the region files directly or use MC-Edit or similar tools
and transfer the NPC/Hologram plugin data manually
fathom granite
peak kite
#JustBashIt