#general
supple grove
neon dagger
Guys I need a second opinion does this look good or is it better to just shove the message in chat?
void void
neon dagger
I just made it green and in chat.
unreal quarry
This is interesting.. Doesn't Paper have a patch that explicitly prevents pearls from teleporting after a relog/chunk reload/etc? This gonna mess with that :s https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-70111
upper flicker
It does when the chunk unloads but you can turn it off
neon dagger
Yeah I'd have assumed something like that should be togglable.
Unrelated but... When a player bed is destroyed would it be best to just loop through all players and check if that was their spawn location and notify them, or?
warped quarry
hollow jolt
celest coyote
Sure
wooden blade
@neon dagger You could use https://papermc.io/javadocs/paper/1.14/org/bukkit/persistence/PersistentDataType.html to add the player's uuid to the bed, and check beds when they're broken to see if they have been tagged.
Of course the challenge would be to retroactively apply the tag to existing beds, in which case you could just tell your players to replace them.
celest coyote
Ita not really worthwhile
wooden blade
Isn't that easier than trying to search through all players?
wooden blade
Doesn't seem like that much code to me. I guess figuring out which events to listen for maybe?
The persistence part isn't that much; the challenge I had was listening to all events. But I was doing that with item frames.
celest coyote
Looping through all players would be like. 10 lines of code
Theres no need to make it more complicated
wooden blade
You might want to account for offline players?
how are you going to uniquely identify whose bed was broken?
Is there a mechanism in place already for that?
celest coyote
More than one player can have the same bed spawn
wooden blade
csv in a string then?
celest coyote
I dont know if he cares about offline players, but now you are bringing csv storage into this too?
You are just making it more and more complicated
pulsar wigeon
how are you going to notify an offline player 
if you care about offline players, check on player login
wooden blade
You notify an offline player, like you suggested, when they log back in.
I do that with voting rewards.
gray thistle
neon dagger
Currently I'm setting the MetaData on a player when they set a bed spawn. When the bed is destroyed I loop through players to see if they have that MetaData set as true... if they do they get notified and the data is set to false.
I'll look into PersistentDataType as I think it might be better (I just didn't see it when looking through the docs).
Plus I can notify offline players if their bed was destroyed with Rabbits method too!
void void
๐ both work
neon dagger
Does metadata get stored across server restarts though?
void void
that would be implied by persistent
neon dagger
Well currently I'm using setMetadata with FixedMetadataValue however PersistentDataType implies that it stores across restarts while MetadataValue does not.
unreal quarry
That's correct
void void
Yup. You would not set metadata, you would set persistent data.
(If you want it to persist...)
golden gust
Morons
void void
i.e. instead of setMetadata i think its getPersistentDataContainer.set
unreal quarry
I was gonna do it, but mobile hides ban menus behind a clusterfuck of shit
void void
or smth
golden gust
Yea, I have literally no idea how I'd ban on mobile
wide chasm
I think you're supposed to press the user inside a message for a while, then a menu pops up, then there should either be a ban option there or a Manage User, from which you can ban someone in there.
neon dagger
||To be honest 2b2t is probably the worst Minecraft server... it's filled with hackers, spammers, and has a queue to get in. Not to mention most of the map has been griefed/destroyed.||
wooden blade
I don't know anything about the PlayerProfiles, is that Mojang specific, or does that offer something persistent locally?
void void
It's anarchy, that's the point
unreal quarry
On mobile you have to open server options > members > scroll down to member > long press > ban
neon dagger
I know it's the point but that just makes it not too fun to play on, imo.
wide chasm
Long pressing on a user's message, a menu shows up with Ban user in it as well, should be faster.
neon dagger
But yeah I'll try the PersistentDataType soonโข
golden gust
it doesn't
unreal quarry
I don't have that @wide chasm
neon dagger
Also code examples would be much appreciated so I can see how it's actually used. ^^;
wide chasm
? I just tested it
unreal quarry
^
neon dagger
Electro, is this on mobile?
unreal quarry
Must be another difference between Android and iPhone
wide chasm
I have Android, you two use iPhone?
golden gust
unreal quarry
We don't even get commands like /shrug on Android :(
neon dagger
unreal quarry
golden gust
ohhhh
neon dagger
You have to long press directly on their name or avatar to get that menu or else you'll get the text/reaction interface.
wide chasm
I'm surprised Discord did it correct for me consistently then, considering my fat thumb.
unreal quarry
Dumb UI designs, part 37
It's almost as if someone designed the context menu years ago, then someone else took over down the road and wanted to redesign it without breaking backwards compatibility so it just got shoehorned in
looks around
Sounds familiar..
neon dagger
I mean that's probably exactly what they did.
wide chasm
backwards compatibility
Sounds like it's time to run
woven otter
what is this
pulsar wigeon
o nice, is there finally kick/ban on the user menu on mobile
going into the server settings for that was such a pain
woven otter
ban yourself
limber knotBOT
meow
pulsar wigeon
๐ก ๐ฆ
woven otter
no
woven otter
no
pulsar wigeon
edited
woven otter
that's a lie
unreal quarry
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pulsar wigeon
did someone say balut?
woven otter
wat
soft wing
๐ฎ
zealous knot
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zealous knot
@static badge I miss ur old pfp
limber knotBOT
Pollen is essentially plant sperm and therefor this makes hatfever an std which means plants are raping people END THIS MADNESS
s/hat/hay
Correction, <Vertanzil> Pollen is essentially plant sperm and therefor this makes hayfever an std which means plants are raping people END THIS MADNESS
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2bad
golden gust
Yea, death to all plants!
woven otter
no time to waste. Need to take a good picture of ass
neon dagger
Can someone spoon feed me some code on PersistentDataType? ^^;
woven otter
no spoon feeding here
heady spear
has anyone here used stef's inventory framework? It's great and all, but for some reason all inventory meta is erased on my items so they look bloody dumb :<
neon dagger
Well there are like no code examples for it and I have no idea how to use it. ;w;
neon dagger
I did... nothing but plugins that basically do stuff for you.
golden gust
There are a few methods, the datatype class has a few builtin parsers
woven otter
@wide chasm
golden gust
PersistentDataType provides a few of its own implementations, otherwise you basically create your own which lets it map to a real object back and forth
neon dagger
I see that PersistentDataHolder has a subinterface of Bed. However Bed seems to be depricated, what should I use instead?
Would BlockDataMeta work?
void void
you get the persistent data container and call set on it
same for get
anything that implements persistententdataholder has those
im not sure about the bed, i thought you were storing on players
limber knotBOT
go to bed, simple
void void
its 2pm
limber knotBOT
please
void void
i just mek coffee
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quasi valley
you sure?
woven otter
yes
quasi valley
But I love you :(
woven otter
I like you too but as a friend
woven otter
u
ancient bolt
sitting on my macbook in an apple store so I can look cool
but I've killed enough time, time to go
ancient bolt
I wanna take a picture of this weird girl here meditating outside the Apple store next to a flower but I know that would be rude
limber knotBOT
o.o
ancient bolt
It's probably normal outside an apple store
wooden blade
Yeah, once you enter the Apple Store, all bets are off, it's like a gladiatorial arena in there.
For those who are about to die, we salute you.
soft wing
Their security options are nice.
wooden blade
@neon dagger If you can manipulate item meta for the bed then you can assign and retrieve the PersistentDataContainer.
You'll have to create a NameSpacedKey, using your plugin, and a string that uniquely identifies the property you're setting, like bedOwner.
Instead of messing around with directly using the UUID, you can convert it to/from a string and store that instead.
ancient bolt
So I guess you can't definite an org or username called features :(
neon dagger
@wooden blade I've actually gotten that far already just trying to figure out how I can store more then one UUID per bed.
wooden blade
well, one way would be to use a delimiter and split the string using that
a symbol that isn't found in a UUID
could even be a space, assuming the UUID as a string doesn't contain any
neon dagger
Well I think the example provided in https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/persistence/PersistentDataType.html just so happens to be exactly what I need. However... for some reason even though I'm setting...
I still get
heady spear
That's just a warning. It looks like you're using a different annotation than spigot tho
neon dagger
Yeah it wants me to use {@literal @Override} however I get an error saying I can't do that.
woven otter
wat
wooden blade
I have not tried storing a UUID directly yet, I've only used strings, because they're a primitive
You can convert a UUID to and from a string
wooden blade
So I don't know if you gain anything by adding methods to handle UUID
wooden blade
well, I guess what I should say is that there are methods in place already to work with strings
as opposed to creating all of the extra code to directly work with storing and retrieving UUIDs
heady spear
the byte buffer stuff is a bit awkward, just manually convert the long to bytes instead ๐
unreal quarry
It's public space @ancient bolt. Snap those pics so we can all point and laugh with you
neon dagger
A UUID is 128-bit, a Long is only 64-bit.
heady spear
That's why you store the most significant and least significant bits, nothing wrong with that.
heady spear
if it's just a byte array then it doesn't matter if you use a string or longs, why would that be a problem?
golden gust
Yes, that's what he's sayin
heady spear
That's what they're doing?
golden gust
Basically, you can use two tags to store the upper and lower half of the UUID
pulsar wigeon
doesn't bukkit provide an adapter to store UUID in persistent data
static badge
it does
pulsar wigeon
why is he reimplementing
static badge
... as an example iirc
pulsar wigeon
am i missing something
wooden blade
Well the javadocs showed what he linked, I believe
neon dagger
It provides one as an example you have to implement it yourself. The example can be found here... https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/persistence/PersistentDataType.html
golden gust
Yea, so; just copy that into a class file and use it
pulsar wigeon
oh, it doesn't provide it in the api, just in docs icic
golden gust
Remove the janky javadoc tags
unreal quarry
Why not uuid.toString() and UUID.fromString()?
wooden blade
That's what I've been saying
unreal quarry
runs away
golden gust
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ur gross
heady spear
What if they want to read the data in C without importing stupid headers? Hm?
neon dagger
Yes however for some reason I'm getting errors when copying it directly... my install doesn't like the... {@literal @Override}.
Also the string method would be fine if I could store multiple strings but I run into the same problem as with UUIDs if I try to make it an array of strings.
heady spear
nothing likes the {@literal @Override} because it's not java ๐
static badge
that is the janky javadoc
wooden blade
just use @Override
neon dagger
Ah okay so replacing it with...
@NotNull
@Override
Should work fine, despite the warning?
heady spear
Warnings are just warnings
neon dagger
Can I write it inline or does it have to be 1 line per tag?
wooden blade
I don't know how you're going to store multiple UUIDS that way
which is why I suggested strings
golden gust
You can write them inline, just one per line is generally preferred
Using strings doesn't change the concept of storing multiple tags, however
heady spear
You can just continue reading/writing the msb-lsb pairs if you want to store multiple values, I don't see what the issue is?
and why would using strings solve that issue?
wooden blade
if you have a tag called bedOwners and want to assign a list of UUIDs to it, then I would imagine delimited strings would be easier.
If you're saying have multiple tags, one for each player, that'd be different.
neon dagger
What I was going to do is just use the code from the doc as a template and write my own method to be able to store a table of UUIDs rather then 1 UUID.
golden gust
Yea
wooden blade
That'd be a more direct way of dealing with it I suppose, don't have to deal with all the wonkiness of parsing a string then
golden gust
using strings would just increase the amount of work on the server
wooden blade
I didn't think there'd be people having bed breaking festivals, but who knows
heady spear
The amount of UUIDs stored in a byte array of a specified length would be the length / 16, as each uuid takes up 16 bytes. Then you can just loop over it. Ez pz.
Same with writing, also ez pz
everything is easy
I am easy
golden gust
I mean, there won't be bed breaking festivals, but if you can do something without ballooning overheads from strings ๐คท
heady spear
leaf smells
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u smell
neon dagger
You underestimate Minecraft players, I can already see that someone notices that breaking a bed makes a little lag spike. So he finds a way to break like 1000 beds at once, over and over again.
neon dagger
Easy fix, ban everyone who joins.
heady spear
@woven otter look at this great review we got ๐
neon dagger
Glowing review*
heady spear
server, he seems to love it
static badge
oh I was right
heady spear
I don't do any game writing so I can't really be blamed for this ๐ฆ
static badge
if ur there it's ur fault
heady spear
probably true
heady spear
RPG server with horrible butchers, apparently
void void
sounds like early days RS
golden gust
I pretty much opted not to bother with quests
I found that unless you have a team of people dedicated to just wipping them out, it's pointless; and players where more content with community/staff ran events instead of aimlessly questing
heady spear
The questing system is one of the core features, along a skill system that forces you to grind for 95 years to achieve anything
void void
throwback to RS where lvl 92 is halfway to 99
heady spear
The owner is a huge rs fan
I haven't really played past our tutorial questline so I've no idea what the server is like tbh, I just push out game mechanics and try to keep the server stable enough for people to play
unreal quarry
I love questing games that never end
Not like those ones where you hit a Max level and then are stuck in end game hell. Nah.. I mean truly never ending questing/leveling with out the repeat/daily quests
unreal quarry
Obviously lol
heady spear
I don't like it when quests are solely there for leveling purposes
unreal quarry
I just love the story
Idk
I'm the guy in the party of 5 that drags everyone else down because I read every quest and watch every cutscene
^_^
heady spear
We have people writing quest lines as the entire gameplay is based around the quests, and they're all based on server lore. Otherwise questing would be bloody awful
Depending on the game, I'm like that too. Some games have terrible lore and then I just want to progress through it as fast as possible
unreal quarry
My wife can't stand it. She likes to just go to the shiney ! on the minimap and kill whatever is marked to be killed. No questions.
heady spear
but then you miss out on a majority of the game ๐
unreal quarry
She's also the "numbers" type of player. Doesnt care about anything except having the highest numbers available
Gear stats, items collected, etc. Must have the best
It's hard to play together sometimes lol
heady spear
at least you have a wife that plays games with you, that sounds dope
void void
and rides motorcycles with him too
unreal quarry
My wife's a badass ^_^
heady spear
sure sounds like it
woven otter
@heady spear lol nice work city
zealous knot
neon dagger
Was messing around with the beds for quite a while just to find that I can't do what I want without iterating over all the beds... and that's kind of a hard pass for me.
pulsar wigeon
sounds like you're overcomplicating things
neon dagger
I could limit it to 1 spawn per bed.
But then how would I remove an old ID from a bed when a player sets a new bed as a spawn point?
Can't think of a good way to do that...
pulsar wigeon
i mean you were told that storing uuids on beds wasn't gonna be smart
that's what you get from taking advice from a rabbit instead of a kickash
neon dagger
kek
golden gust
just scan over all online players, pretty sure you can get their bed location
worn ember
Only need to keep track of the beds theyve slept in last no?
neon dagger
What I did instead of the persistent variables is just... when a bed is destroyed it loops over all players and checks their bed locations... If their bed location has the same location as the bed that's been destroyed then it will tell them their bed has been destroyed.
worn ember
Which bukkit does for you as kitty cat said
neon dagger
Yeah that's what I did. ^^
I just wanted to include offline players too... but then I was like eh, screw them. If their not playing on my server they shouldn't get anything. :p
worn ember
That'd get pretty unmanageable you'd just drag dead weight
Unless you remove them after x time of inactivity
pulsar wigeon
or just store locations of destroyed beds and check bed location whenever a player logs back on and match
can even do that async
neon dagger
Hmm
I'll figure it out in a bit
for some reason my if statement is not coming through...
pulsar wigeon
probably wrong package
steady grail
mystic heath
Does anyone know a lightweight plugin that can show your coordinates on the screen with a command similar to bedrock's show coordinates?
void void
essentials /getpos?
void void
i mean, idk, where do you want it to stay
neon dagger
There are tons of client side plugins that can do that.
void void
in the actionbar?
a mod is more likely to be what you want but if you really want that, ill make it for $20
neon dagger
@pulsar wigeon What do you mean, wrong package?
mystic heath
$20?
void void
Yea just send me a friend request first otherwise it'll get ninja-deleted
mystic heath
Haha, ok
upper flicker
Simple I'll give you 4 skittles per hour, minimum 2 hours. Maximum 6 hours, I don't want to share that many of my skittles
pulsar wigeon
how about GBP
upper flicker
The only place to get GBP are the 4chan posts on Reddit and we don't associate with their kind here
void void
I'll take it Z
sullen stream
God Damn Mean Ass Nasty Bitch What Did I Do To You Im Just Trying To Make Some Money To Pay For My Server.
upper flicker
theyre choosing to float out into the atlantic, what good will their currency do me
void void
Who that dude talking to lol
Hey Z
God Damn Mean Ass Nasty Bitch
What Did I Do To You
Im Just Trying
To Make Some Money
To Pay For My Server
a poem by Tyler
wooden blade
Maybe it was an encoded message? I'll try to use the first letter of each word.
void void
GDMANB WDIDTY IJT TMSM TPFMS
@sullen stream is this message declaring your need for assistance
do i need to call for help
ambulance?
fire truck?
police?
neon dagger
So I'm really confused here the old Bed ( https://papermc.io/javadocs/paper/1.14/org/bukkit/block/Bed.html ) does have a PersistentDataHolder... however the new one ( https://papermc.io/javadocs/paper/1.14/org/bukkit/block/data/type/Bed.html ) doesn't seem to...
What I decided to do is have each bed have its own UUID and when a player sets a spawn on a bed that UUID gets written to their PersistentDataHolder. That way when a bed is destroyed I can loop through all players and notify those players who match.
neon dagger
Or is there just no way to do that anymore?
golden gust
@sullen stream if you could like... not... that would be great
void void
pulsar wigeon
mods here so lenient
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wooden blade
@neon dagger I assume that you can use an event listener to determine that the item being broken is a Bed; if it has ItemMeta, then you should be able to get the PersistentDataHolder of the ItemMeta.
Someone also mentioned BlockDataMeta as a potential interface
neon dagger
I've been trying to figure this out for way too long. xD
Apparently blocks don't have ItemMeta
wooden blade
how about BlockDataMeta?
neon dagger
Nope can't get that from an already placed object in the world.
void void
BlockDataMeta extends ItemMeta
I'm not sure what you're doing rn Nano but the listener approach wooly mentioned is correct
Where are you getting the placed item from
Absolutely from World?
Or from an Event?
wooden blade
Nano is trying to associate players with their beds when they place them
void void
(Like you should be)
wooden blade
so when their beds are broken, they can be notified
neon dagger
From the event of PlayerBedEnterEvent.
void void
If from an Event, you can get the item being placed as an ItemStack, and then get the BlockDataMeta
wooden blade
well place isn't right, sleep would be correct
so that event would work?
Can you assign a BlockMetaData to the bed's BlockData?
neon dagger
The event does work but I can only getBed() from there where I get a https://papermc.io/javadocs/paper/1.14/org/bukkit/block/Block.html
void void
I might be wrong but I thought setting metadata on a block in the world persisted. Probably am wrong. But I remember doing something years ago by setting meta on a block. I just don't remember if it persisted or not.
wooden blade
I know I was able to apply this to ItemFrames
I added the ability to associate a persistent string with ItemFrames in player shops
neon dagger
java.lang.ClassCastException: org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_14_R1.block.impl.CraftBed cannot be cast to org.bukkit.inventory.meta.BlockDataMeta
So I don't know why you wouldn't be able to do that with beds
The event gives you a block as a parameter, right?
neon dagger
Yes
wooden blade
which should have a getBlockData() method
neon dagger
yeah
wooden blade
I assume that you can create a BlockData and assign it, if it doesn't exist?
neon dagger
Yeah I can do that.
void void
I mean if all else fails. normal setMetadata is fine -- just remember to save it along with block coords to a file so you can reapply it on startup. Not optimal. But does it work? Certainly.
cosmic raft
#paper-dev might be a better spot to discuss plugin development :)
wooden blade
๐
neon dagger
Thanks, I asked that as soon as I came in and was told to just post here... lol.
void void
this is offtopic so i mean, you can
it's just
there is a specific channel for it where a lot more people hang out
and it's on-topic
potent warren
If I set the hardness value of a block on the server side, does the client know about it?
upper flicker
no
afaik its mostly used for stuff like explosions which are done server side anyway
not aware of the client using it for anything
potent warren
Oh
upper flicker
then again I dont look much at the client
cosmic raft
hmm
a domain name i want is available
but only in .ca
do i get it @static badge ?
cosmic raft
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upper flicker
there's an ugly domain
hot gorge
Paperspigot.spigot
limber knotBOT
@hot gorge [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
hot gorge
Lmfao
winter sundial
limber knotBOT
@winter sundial [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
blissful geyser
merry talon
the fuck does this mean?
slow hull
@merry talon send 'em a support email. They're usually great at answering
merry talon
I've never had a good experience with PayPal ever
they copy and paste responses disregarding my questions
they limited my account and made me provide ID and POA, I did and this happened...
static badge
not telling you what exactly you violated?
cosmic raft
holding money for 180 days
merry talon
no, this is all the info I have
thank god I don't have money in there
sent them an email, but I'll likely have to call them to get someone to actually listen to me
neon dagger
OMG I finally did it!
I wish I could ping electroniccat to thank them... lol.
But thanks to everyone who helped me out.
void void
Hey @golden gust
u sux
neon dagger
I'll post what I did to solve it in #paper-dev
golden gust
@void void You should take a long walk off a very short cliff
cunning badge
lmao
zealous knot
void void
This essay I'm writing is so bullshittery
I should have written it earlier but it's almost 1am and I wanna sleep
It's about a circus and so far I've talked about how shitting in an out-house and being in Asia is related.
Not sure how, but I'm doing it.
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zealous knot
Funny that they asked to write an essay about culture from an uncultured swine
void void
nice
zealous knot
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coarse leaf
brazen adder
Does anyone know where i could request help with a modded minecraft server instead of a paper server? I cant get mobs to spawn on custom biomes.. because of mo's customspawner mod
cunning badge
In the spigot forums?
Or if it exists in the discord / forum / spigot page of the plugin?
torpid willow
try it without mo's customspawner
umbral wyvern
zealous knot
minor iron
Why
peak dirge
the new thing from the fruity company
twilit rivet
quasi valley
awesome vocab question: what's the correct term for preserving a price of a bought product/whatever? price preservation, value retention, smth else?
zealous knot
I forgot the word itโs something with value
urban agate
void void
@quasi valley i.e. maintaining value?
quasi valley
yeah
void void
i can guarantee you in daily life no native speaker knows a term for that
they would just say like "not letting it devalue", "keeping resale price up"
quasi valley
๐
quasi valley
like "keeping up" or "going down" should be "pursuing" or "decreasing"
quasi valley
yea apparently 
but I guess maintaining value sounds good, not sure what the two I sent at the beginning actually precisely mean, just found them on online translators ๐
void void
well I would just say "Avoiding depreciation by maintaining resale value through constant components maintenance" if he's gonna be that anal about it
depreciation = loss in price due to age
quasi valley
oh boy, lovely
void void
There may be a word for it, I just have no idea what it is and wouldn't say it in real life because no one else would know what I meant without pulling out a dictionary
So lul
Tbh, if you want brownie points, argue with him over it if he knocks you points for not using it
limber knotBOT
mikroskeem, uwu
void void
Say something like "The amount of native speakers who on a daily basis have this word in the repertoire is too small to warrant its use or practice. While knowing said words are great for understanding, the use of these words on a daily basis is hardly something that should cause a loss of points if the goal of the class is to achieve a level of fluency that would match, and not attempt to go beyond, that of a native speaker." @quasi valley
anyway to fix this error; Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running 17142ms or 342 ticks behind, the server is lagging
Get better hardware.
quasi valley
sounds good ๐
wide chasm
"loss of points" -> "reduction of points", come on, step it up ๐
void void
Oh, damm
quasi valley
smh
void void
urban laurel
quasi valley
what a masterpiece of a sentence
magic river
Don't let performance issues and a high price point stop you from playing this absolute classic
RIP Link's Awakening remake
quasi valley
itโs arriving tomorrow for me
iron jay
wide chasm
I'm really wondering how they messed up performance. There are enough other, more demanding games, that play fine on the system, I don't see why LA would have to perform poorly.
worn ember
is that a DS game?
wide chasm
Link's Awakening is for Game Boy, Game Boy Color (Link's Awakening DX) and a remake is coming out tomorrow for Nintendo Switch.
quasi valley
also - how would poor performance not become apparent on a console that has the same exact specs for each and every piece sold
hopefully it's not too bad 
the original was the first ever game I played on a handheld, am too hyped for this to be bad :(
wide chasm
Can't be worse than Ark on Switch, but that doesn't say much.
worn ember
prepare to be dissapointed
limber knotBOT
ark sucks super hard
worn ember
yes it does
"Are you a toilet plunger? Because all you are good at is bringing up old shit."
mossy ibex
olive garden
@worn ember you have peeked, good job
worn ember
viral island
Hey ! Which version of Java is the best for a 1.14 server ? 8, 11 or 12 ?
quasi canyon
Is there a way to stop players from writing in books?
trying to tackle the book chunk dupe
worn ember
i think 11 runs fine and that way you'll be fine for a bit
everything should run under 11
viral island
Does that increase performances ?
worn ember
not that i'm aware of no
olive garden
there are no substantial differences as far as I know
wide chasm
There have been changes to the GC, which may help.
olive garden
gg
worn ember
worn ember
so question, open JDK is not oracles JDK right? but is it the same? or are there slight differences?
wide chasm
The API is the same, internally there may be changes, but it shouldn't be anything substantial.
worn ember
๐
pulsar wigeon
unless you use plugins that do hacky stuff ๐
void void
ur tard boy
wide chasm
I exclusively use Reflection and Unsafe as to obfuscate my code /s
void void
reflection
obfuscation
pulsar wigeon
yes, pass every field through sha1 and then do someObj.getClass().getField(sha1("field")).get(someObj) every time you need it :^)
empty rune
wide chasm
SHA1 very bad, not good, I use MD5
wooden blade
Or just call Mojang.Mojumble
near needle
Any of y'all familiar with .mcfunction files? I'm looking to run plugin commands via Minecraft functions (.mcfunction) and can't seem to find a solution. I know that it wont work by default but I'm hoping there is a way around it similar to the "commandhook" plugin which allows vanilla target selectors to be used in plugin commands.
pulsar wigeon
protip: dont use mcfunctions
near needle
pulsar wigeon
that should be closed as off topic, not duplicate
static badge
doesn't get the meme
near needle
@pulsar wigeon i agree mcfunctions are pretty trash in a lot of ways. I'm just playin around and tryna see if i can get it working
subtle hollow
me and my friends have a sruvival server but we want to spice things up and also make breeding go faster
is there a plugin that speeds up breeding
void void
.g site:spigotmc.org faster breeding
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/pwnchickenlay.2086/ -- PwnChickenLay | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft: "Control what your chickens lay and how often, with per biome configuration!"
subtle hollow
ugh do i really have to make a plugin for this
subtle hollow
dude then don't reply ffs
no need to be this harsh for nothing
is being nice hard?
void void
im not being harsh
subtle hollow
yes you are
void void
this server is not for you to just ask for us to go google for you
it's for if you need help
subtle hollow
'we arent google i aint gonna look for you'
subtle hollow
yes and i need help because i need a plugin
void void
yeah
near needle
yo @void void that was so mean.
neon dagger
Anyone have a good hotswapping tutorial for Paper? I found one for Sponge but I don't really understand it. ;w;
void void
you're asking us to google for you
near needle
I actually just cried
void void
i think there's one on the spigot wiki nano
hollup
hm guess not
you can use dcevm (it replaces your jvm) and then hotswap agent for IJ
neon dagger
I googled b4 asking here already, couldn't find anything... Like I said I did find one for sponge.
void void
you go here http://dcevm.github.io/
and then install dcevm into your jdk/jre (or both)
that allows you to redefine classes in a running jvm (aka hotswap)
then you install hotswap agent into IJ
and it should be gucci
neon dagger
Was already on that page after searching dcevm. ^^
onyx nest
void void
you're half way there :p
neon dagger
So I setup the hotswapping agent... now to just figure out how to get all this into my plugins folder.
void void
hotswapping works on the jvm level, you dont need to manually copy jars
it will literally just change the classes in memory
neon dagger
Hmm so I don't need to define my minecraft directory or anything? Do I just run it and magic?
void void
it's not magic
you run the plugin once with special jvm flags which starts a listener, then your IDE has to connect to the port (hotswap agent does this)
dcevm allows the ide to just swap out classes
that's how it works
void void
who said it wasn't
ancient bolt
Nano said they were searching for a paper or spigot tutorial
ancient bolt
They couldn't find anything because they're searching for the wrong thing
tranquil owl
void void
uh, sweet
just checked my blood donor panel and saw my bp results
im apparently hypertensive stage 2
:-)
wise pebble
Taco
neon dagger
What I still don't understand though is how does it get my Jar into the servers plugins?
void void
Look up JVM class redefinition...
All it does is connect to the running JVM and literally replace the bytecode.
How is too technical of a question
bright pagoda
neon dagger
So I don't put anything in my plugins folder right?
neon dagger
So I ran the code and got my jar file from...
C:\JetBrains\IdeaProjects\SpawnSystems\build\libs
Put that in the Plugins folder of my server started then started the server...
I then changed some text in my plugin and hit ctrl+shift+f9 as the tutorial instructs but saw no change.
young garnet
neon dagger
Yeah idk it's not working... rip.
If anyone is willing to go on screenshare with me to figure it out... you're more then welcome. Because apparently I'm dumb.
void void
marble summit
@neon dagger W e e b
stone silo
pulsar wigeon
has teto as pfp
calls people weeb
neon dagger
@marble summit Thanks
stone silo
Just joined, can someone tell me if these specs are good enough to run a server properly?
/s of course ๐
neon dagger
simple can I DM you?
void void
just making sure you're not one of those omggggg cores omgggggg ram omgggggggggg
stone silo
nah, this entire machine isn't dedicated to just MC
void void
๐
stone silo
which was the choice behind doing more cores
neon dagger
Ah okay well let me know when you're available. But b4 I leave you alone do I have to start my server with any special params?
void void
just have to make sure it's running the dcevm patch
if you replaced your jvm, no
if you installed as altjvm yes
-XXaltjvm=dcevm
neon dagger
Yeah I'm doing that but I'm getting...
Unable to load native library: The specified procedure could not be found
do java -version, if dcevm is there it'll report the version as Dynamic Code Evolution
if it doesn't, the patch isn't applied
in which case try java -XXaltjvm=dcevm -version
However, depending on what you're trying to patch due to the way paper runs, you may have to do something else. i haven't hotswapped minecraft in a while, but things like those that run in onEnable and stuff are going to have to rerun somehow
i forget the specifics
i'll have to look later
if i can do it again (haven't done it in a long time) i'll just make a video and put it on youtube
but i have a lot of stuff to do today so
neon dagger
Alright, thanks for your time.
limber knotBOT
hello
hi
PandaWire its not loading on paperspigot
xFazeESP: [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
void void
then dont use pandawire
paper has eigencraft redstone
This math can go to hell
Hate manual graphing
Just let me use desmos and call it a day damn
stone silo
I can't tell you the last time I've done real math that wasn't just implementing a formula in an application
though I will say actually finding a use for radial geometry in real life is fun
void void
unfortunately I skipped a lot of math in primary school bc i was 2 cool 4 schoolz
now i want a degree and school is like
HAH
ur retaking EVERYTHING
stone silo
now I'm the lead developer at my company, so shrug
void void
That was my position but I couldn't go any higher (management)
limber knotBOT
I cant nerf it cuz its a faction servers
stone silo
got it
I'm lucky enough where the company is small enough
we're an IT company, but my employment is actually being sold to another company where they're going to establish a development team
you either gotta have the paper (heh) or have the right connections
visual lava
stone silo
I'm 5 years in, moving to a senior dev role, and will be making 6 figures in 2020. That is a-okay with me haha
I do have a lot of gaps in my knowledge though
I've thought about doing some night classes just to get my skills up a bit, but time is limited
void void
nbd
void void
idk if you just like, decided not to read my comment or what
stop using pandawire
turn on paper's eigencraft redstone
however, if your system isn't beefy enough, you're just fucked either way
there is no way to just "hah ok redstone no laggy laggy anymore feel free 2 make lag machines and 0 tick farms"
it doesnt work like that
it takes processing power.
void void
.optimize
limber knotBOT
Guide for optimizing performance: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimizationโก.283181/
void void
read the whole thing.
limber knotBOT
i dont have use-faster-eigencraft-redstone
limber knotBOT
cant do that
void void
amiright
limber knotBOT
im runing factions lol
limber knotBOT
using custom paper
void void
Can't help you.
We can only support the paper we produce
If you run custom or you run outdated, you are accepting the fact that you get no support and you support yourself.
inb4 got scammed on mcmarket with that "custom paper for factions can run thousands of players at once!!!! 11111 just pay me $2500" (or even more)
jaunty oriole
just backport the eigencraft engine to ur paper, ez :^)
void void
i think it's hilarious how many people buy that shit
wooden blade
"Using sandpaper fork, it's kind of rough, but boy do I feel tingly all over when I use it."
granite salmon
Omg thatโs a golden comment ๐
void void
.optimize
limber knotBOT
Guide for optimizing performance: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimizationโก.283181/
cosmic raft
ah yes
@static badge gotta love Canada Post emails
Canada Post / Postes Canada <donotreply-nepasrepondre@notifications.canadapost-postescanada.ca>
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cosmic raft
static badge
wat
cosmic raft
look at the picture
cosmic raft
.g justin trudeau bbc
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cg41ylwvxd7t/justin-trudeau -- Justin Trudeau - BBC News: "All the latest news about Justin Trudeau from the BBC."
cosmic raft
click that
void void
wait WHAT
cosmic raft
and then look at the twitter picture again
magic bloom
void void
meh im not canadian but trudeau is pretty trash
celest coyote
our options are trash, trash, and more trash
cosmic raft
wait, are you canadian too @celest coyote?
celest coyote
yes
covert jolt
cosmic raft
where @celest coyote
celest coyote
live just outside GTA
cosmic raft
ah
cosmic raft
greater toronto area
frigid quarry
winter sundial
basically everyone in CAN lives in our just outside GTA ๐คทโโ๏ธ
winter sundial
Yes definitely
void void
yeah kash lives in buttfuck nowhere
cosmic raft
BC!
winter sundial
That must be sad Kappa
void void
oh sorry, "Better California"
winter sundial
thatโs basically where the rest of the populations lives
and thereโs quebec...
void void
peak dirge
I live in the Southern USA. I'm sure if you tried you could turn up dozens of our politicians in blackface.
celest coyote
apparently this is the hottest news in the entire world right now
peak dirge
In fact, there was the case of Ralph Northam (governor of Virginia) some time ago
celest coyote
not really seeing major outrage among canadians though
winter sundial
it's been on the news quite often lately
peak dirge
French Snobland
ALTERNATE HISTORY: What if Scotland was French?
Yes I deliberately misunderstood that
TV news has nothing good to report on the 24-hour cycle, so everything is breaking news when it ought not to be
celest coyote
yep
peak dirge
I don't quite see the blackface incident hurting Justin Trudeau - he's already got vulnerabilities the Tories are exploiting.
And of course he's getting hell from the left, because fighting climate change and also boosting oil and gas production contradict each other.
winter sundial
elections soon yikes
celest coyote
fighting climate change and building pipelines don't necessarily contradict
a pipeline is more reliable and efficient than truck transport
also people don't know anything about this but the oil industry basically dictates our exchange rate
merry talon
never going to have a leader that isnt trash in some ways
the world doesnt work like that
Trudeau is pretty good in comparison
peak dirge
@celest coyote Never said anything about pipelines, and in any event, the biggest step in fighting climate change is to stop burning fossil fuels altogether
And building more pipelines doesn't stop us from burning more fossil fuels.
golden gust
^^
That's part of the modern stupidity with fossil fuels
Sure, burning gas is better than tons of coal every day, but the fact that the more green power we bring onto the grid the more gas burners we need to take up the "oh shit, there is a cloud" drops, is 10/10
peak dirge
I also support some nuclear power (obviously, with restrictions). I'm aware of the environmental impacts of the waste products generated by reactors, but at least you can contain nuclear waste, versus burning fossil fuels whereas carbon capture and sequestration technology is only now getting deployed (and coal is much worse, because you have spoils from that). Nuclear power is also a very low carbon energy source when all is considered.
(I say very low since the actual fission is a carbon-free process, but the carbon lies in processing and transporting the uranium fuel.)
golden gust
"but wind power is carbon free!"
runs
I don't really see how we can go forward without nuclear, tbh
peak dirge
BuT wHaT iF tHe WiNd IsN't BlOwInG?
golden gust
Sure, in the ideal world we wouldn't have to and we'd be all green, but we gotta look realistically here
peak dirge
So you do have to be realistic in how to get to zero or negative emissions, and so I think nuclear power has to be around until we develop technology that results in fast, cheap, plentiful renewable and zero-carbon energy.
Yes, it sounds impossible. But perhaps we can find something that'll fit the bill.
pulsar wigeon
imagine if you could produce power from the void in leaf's skull
static badge
wtf
celest coyote
since when does the void have power
static badge
Throwing all of wiz's ideas in the trash
pulsar wigeon
surprised you hadn't done that ages ago leaf
steady cedar
fringe flint
well then you get people saying
that we'll be out of usable uranium in 230 years
at the current consumption rate or so
but i'm pretty sure that's only the uranium we know exists, not the uranium that we still haven't discovered
austere ivy
yeah
merry talon
we don't even need that though
there's a myriad of new nuclear power generation concepts
I think nuclear power has to be around until we develop technology that results in fast, cheap, plentiful renewable and zero-carbon energy.
nuclear CAN be this
static badge
nuke you for energy
thorny briar
void void
ok this might be stoopid but what does tories mean
ancient bolt
political party in the UK
void void
oh ok
golden gust
Yea, that's our conservative party
limber knotBOT
That's lewd
golden gust
Current major news in regards to brexit is that 1) Boris has set his deadline for releasing the plan after the deadline that some EU nation set (It's like he's aiming for no deal)
- There is currently a high court case over if his shutting down of parlament was illegal
wooden blade
I thought Parliament was prorogued - dismissed to prevent any dialogue that might be counter to BoJo's wishes.
static badge
anything else
golden gust
No, it's prorogued so that he can set his... erm... Future plans, you know
wooden blade
Winters in the Bahamas?
golden gust
gotta have his queens speech, it just so happens that it perfectly lines up with fucking over any discussions in parliament around brexit, you know
100% coincidence, we swear
wooden blade
Was the point of his previous speech with the Queen to borrow the key's so he could grab the Crown Jewels? or did he need the royal "yas" to proceed with the parliamentary vacation?
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distant sparrow
cunning badge
Github Pro?
void void
oh really pro free for students
void void
yea i had the pack before
cunning badge
wide chasm
Is there anything useful in GitHub Pro other than free repositories with unlimited members?
wide chasm
Alright then, I'll just keep using free.
cunning badge
I still got it because before you had to pay for private repos
but since they released that nobody is buying pro anymore I guess
wide chasm
Well, if you need a private repo with more than 3 collaborators, you'll still need it I guess, but definitely less incentive to buy it.
vestal jasper
I mean they could give free accounts like 3 private repos and then let pros have unlimited 
cunning badge
I mean I would love if you could create a team as a pro user
void void
@wide chasm ability to use github pages on private repos
github pages are rather limited
how so?
i always end up needing some sort of server side solutions, github does not offer that :p
not sure how github would handle single page apps either
yeah but for static sites it's convenient
single page apps yeah you need to use the hashtag trick
which is ew
imo
but you also have to ask yourself if you need to make an "app"
if target website has too much shared/common logic, also depending on eachother then it makes more sense to build the site up as an app
thanks mattermost github
(... integration)
it's telling you that you don't have any?
oh lol
github wont let me join the edu pack again
that's why i got denied
k watever
i got the benefits once
golden gust
bitbucket offers free private repos, gitlab probably do too? no idea there
But, there is a valid reason for them to just offer free repos being that it keeps people over there
void void
gitlab does too but fucking hell how slow it is
zealous knot
Gitlab is shit
merry talon
but it's far better than bitbucket
void void
Bitbucket is pretty trash
merry talon
unless you use jira
wide chasm
Is it just me, but when I search something on bitbucket, for example with Spigot when I want to look at the source of a class, that it can never find any results? It always just says that it couldn't find anything, even if I just type the name of a class directly.
wide chasm
I search through all repos, still nothing.
wide chasm
No, in the search I do a search with repo:bukkit and repo:craftbukkit or whatever the syntax for it is
cunning badge
then you know why
wide chasm
?
golden gust
bitbucket search is pretty trash compared to github
Kinda like the simple of source management solutions
void void
i mean yeah, even the stash search project:SPIGOT doesn't work - as noted by the docs, it should
so should project:SPIGOT repo:craftbukkit Achievement.java
or project:SPIGOT repo:craftbukkit
but nada
Aka, it's trash
wide chasm
Oh, okay, I'm not the only one who's having problems with it, that's a relief. Or not, I guess.
cunning badge
I mean its bitbucket
golden gust
Hoenstly, checkout the repo and fire up grep
void void
yea, there is always a way to find what you want but we're just talking about the fact that bitbucket is trash and doesn't work
which is now being proven through application
:^)
golden gust
Wait, discord now updates past messages?
golden gust
Wow, discord is going up in the world
cunning badge
now they just need to improve the voice and they are good