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#general
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unreal quarry
lol
limber knotBOT
you either die a hero or live to become the villain
limber knotBOT
kama sutra
unreal quarry
batman \o/
limber knotBOT
I like my answer better
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.g you either die a hero or live to become the villain
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_aQupiaCSA -- Aaron Eckhart: You either die a hero or you live long...: "Oct 16, 2014 ... Quote: You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Actor: Aaron Eckhart Movie/Show: The Dark..."
I should just start attributing all my quotes to the kama sutra
that book's full of wisdom
unreal quarry
lmao
limber knotBOT
βThere's an old saying in Tennessee β I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee β that says, fool me once, shame on β shame on you. Fool me β you can't get fooled again.β - Kama Sutra
US presidents are wise beyond their years
limber knotBOT
I still remember the exact moment when I decided to stop reading trump-related news
and I think most people forgot that moment at this point
it was when he announced he'd just bombed a country and said the wrong country
he's borderline too stupid and incompetent to actually be harmful
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mfw ur calling other people stupid
limber knotBOT
yeah it's that bad spotted
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wary grail
ancient bolt
well lunch is made for the week
minor iron
gratz
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lunch 
worn ember
Atom isn't that bad
worn ember
Isn't VScode built in electron too?
dapper nacelle
my sleeping schedule is so fucked up
void void
even if it is
dapper nacelle
3:40AM
void void
it's much faster
dapper nacelle
its getting worse lately
worn ember
I only used atom for Arduino programming. So everything is slow anyway lol
dapper nacelle
if I skip the night and manage to stay awake till 9 in the evening will my schedule be restored
has anyone else here done this before?
void void
you say that now but you're just fucking yourself even harder
the better thing to do is sleep for at least 1 sleep cycle then force yourself to get up
in the morning
90 minutes is 1 sleep cycle
limber knotBOT
don't forget to get your sleep units in
worn ember
Then go to bed early aswel
limber knotBOT
or you gain 1 fatigue
dapper nacelle
I don't think I'd be able to wake up
limber knotBOT
sorry, I mean exhaustion
void void
as you exit a sleep cycle you're most awake
worn ember
Well that's your problem
limber knotBOT
that gives you negative modifiers for some actions
limber knotBOT
who cares about fatigue wen u got srs case of dum
dapper nacelle
even if I set my alarm I will just turn it off
void void
thats because you wake up in deep sleep
if you wake up on the edge of a sleep cycle you're sleeping lightly
and you'll have an easier time
worn ember
I wake up deep in ur mom
dapper nacelle
worn ember
Bruh. Those aren't real
void void
pulling an all nighter works, but they're really hard to do properly
so gl
and what aren't real
worn ember
Sleep cycles. You have different stages but there's no way you randomly sleep lighter every 90 minute lol
worn ember
Ah yeah obviously
dapper nacelle
this day will be hell to stay awake
but if I manage to stay awake till 10 in the evening I win
worn ember
Not convinced
dapper nacelle
no
void void
Out of REM is light sleep
worn ember
Didn't know my biological clock was atomic
void void
lolwat.jpg
void void
ok dylan
lament pier
dapper nacelle
any weeb who has seen Re:Zero cares tho
void void
go join a weeb discord
dapper nacelle
if you haven't its no suprise you'd say that
void void
we literally dont care
worn ember
Well the only one that cared got banned lul
dapper nacelle
I am in 2 weeb discords and 2 official hentai discords
void void
ok so go talk there
celest coyote
publicly admitting you are a degenerate
void void
^
celest coyote
thats some big brain
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mfw
worn ember
Aren't you a minor? Pretty sure that's illegal buddy
void void
yea
dapper nacelle
nah dude
void void
you clearly are
dapper nacelle
I am like 27
void void
the way you talk shows it anyway
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like 27
worn ember
Discord police ππ
dapper nacelle
will be 18 next year
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mfw lying
void void
even so 17 is still illegal
worn ember
14 at most
void void
23th
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worn ember
Lol
void void
anyway, ok devon
dapper nacelle
I take pleasure from that
worn ember
Yeah bet you like it when your dad abuses you too
worn ember
Ash are you planning on actually contributing to mmsg? XD
dapper nacelle
worn ember
I gotta finish output events and implement the wb math and then I'm pretty much done
merry talon
retardation has no bounds
worn ember
Then I can start working on load balancing across multiple servers lol
Thats gonna be something else
worn ember
Pussy
dapper nacelle
worn ember
Almost 4am here too
void void
just murdered the fuck out of a fly
didnt swat it hard enough for immediate death so i had to crush it
rip fly
Excuse me, would someone be able to help me?
My server wont start, and i have my Eula set to true.
Does anyone know the problem?
ionic cargo
void void
@acoustic pilot Sorry for the ping, but would you potentially know?
limber knotBOT
@void void Sorry 4 ping, but can u help me find out how 2 live gud life
limber knotBOT
02.09 21:56:41 [Server] Server thread/INFO Preparing level "new"
02.09 21:56:41 [Server] Server thread/ERROR Encountered an unexpected exception
basic common sense suggests that perhaps something is wrong with the world named "new"
have u tried compressing urself
limber knotBOT
[-d] [-w <who>] <when> <message...>
worn ember
.reminder @worn ember 8h break Minecraft with world names
merry talon
if you compress a human it will release fluids as well
worn ember
Compress me daddy
limber knotBOT
wut
@void void I'm somewhat rudely trying to help u understand how 2 read ur log
or read logs in general
limber knotBOT
oof, joking does not bode well it seems
worn ember
Yeah fukin robo. U big noob. Fuk u
limber knotBOT
biggest baddest noob of 'em all
worn ember
Yes
unreal quarry
Fuckin robo, at it again I see. Smh
queen rapids
what
cosmic raft
not sure why you're surprised lol
queen rapids
surprised its possible two people have the same name
queen rapids
thats pretty cool
thorny nacelle
grizzled hearth
Prob special char with different lenght?
ancient bolt
my toe hurts
queen rapids
well g is understandable, all hes did was lowercase it
void void
gentle yarrow
marble summit
Anyone know if NMS works with viaversion?
Like if i made something using NMS and had a multi ver server would the nms entity still work
void void
Yup you need to support each one yourself
marble summit
Including decimal versions?
void void
Use an NMS manager, read the package, dynamically load your specific NMS implementation
marble summit
How would this work with entities?
void void
I don't know. That's an implementation detail you need to think about
1_8_R{1-3}, 1_9_R{1,2}, 1_10_R1, 1_11_R1, 1_12_R1, 1_13_R{1,2}, 1_14_R1
those are all the versions you have to support for 1.8-1.14.4
(NMS versions)
marble summit
So lets say one player on the viaver server was using a ver not supported
What would happen to the entity if they looked at it?
Would they not see it
void void
there wont be a version unsupported if you support all those
void void
and also, viaversion just supports the other protocol versions, you dont have to worry about the player<->server
but for YOUR plugin to run 1.8-1.14.4 you have to support each NMS version
void void
You don't have to worry about that then, ViaVersion should handle it for the player
void void
But you still need to support each NMS version, ViaVersion doesn't expose a "common NMS interface" or anything to depend on.
marble summit
How would i work with that
void void
You need an NMS implementation for each NMS version...
marble summit
Well like what im saying is how would i use the event depending on nms version?
void void
what...
marble summit
Well the entity from what i understand all would need to be in one class
And you cant override functions that dont exist
void void
You're going to have to make a class for each NMS version.
marble summit
Oh
void void
And load it based on the NMS version being loaded
Which you read from the package
net.minecraft.server.1_8_R1 for example
is the first version nms for 1.8
marble summit
Now how is this going to work with multiple players?
So lets say one is 1.8
The other is 1.14
It would be using two different Entities
Due to different versions
hardy cedar
void void
You don't have to worry about that. Your plugin only cares about the server's version.
ViaVersion handles what the player gets.
void void
Then you only realistically have to support 1.14
void void
yea
fervent marsh
Anyone here know much about Dynmap?
void void
.ask
marble summit
Thats what i was asking originally
limber knotBOT
If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.
void void
.dontask
limber knotBOT
fervent marsh
I'll assume that was directed at me, Seeing if anyone knows how to fix this on Dynmap. The black areas are generated, but not filled on the map.
void void
World Border?
fervent marsh
yeah
void void
You need to force them to load
So you need to do another full gen
with the force flag
fervent marsh
okay
limber knotBOT
is there an info page that details the categories elements on Aikar's Timings v2?
void void
@fervent marsh https://puu.sh/EcNc0/98072295c1.png
marble summit
Also, i am looking to eventually make custom generators, how would i go about that?
unreal quarry
The black areas were not generated, btw
void void
/wb <world> fill 20 208 true
marble summit
Like a custom chunk that can exist in specific biomes
unreal quarry
WorldBorders algorithm thinks they were, tho.
fervent marsh
Will that overwrite already generated chunks?
unreal quarry
No
unreal quarry
Forcing true just means force all chunks to load
marble summit
So like what would i need to do
void void
what are you talking about now mo
fervent marsh
on some of those areas, they will load if i zoom all the way in
marble summit
Lets say i wanted a generator to randomly generate within the plains biome houses
within chunks
What would i endup needing to do
(Im trying to make custom generation)
marble summit
Block Populator?
unreal quarry
BlockPopulators are super slow on 1.14, btw ^_^
limber knotBOT
is there an info page that details the categorized elements of Aikar's Timings v2?
void void
There's not a wiki page but he made a very detailed video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4J0A9l7bfQ
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Timings v2 Tutorial - length 44m 33s - 98 likes, 4 dislikes (96.1%) - 8,756 views - Daniel Ennis on 2016.02.09
i am currently watching that now
marble summit
Could i do it the easy way and on chunk generation if its a plain chunk roll for it to set blocks in the middle of it?
void void
You could...but that's literally why block populators were invented
fervent marsh
like this
limber knotBOT
28 minutes in and he has been detailing the merits of v2 versus v1 and how to read v2 but it has not provided any insight as to what common elements actually mean
void void
To make it so you dont have to do that
fervent marsh
fervent marsh
it is black on zoomout, but rendered on zoomin
marble summit
1.14 has chunk issues
unreal quarry
@fervent marsh that's because a player loaded those chunks
You can fly over those black spot for the same effect as WorldBorder fill
fervent marsh
wb has already filled this area with force
and then a forced radius render with dyn
i zoom back out on the map, the black reappears
unreal quarry
Zoomed out tiles take longer to process. See your dynmap config to see what you have set
Default is 30 second delay
void void
Lordnewb it might be more beneficial if you just ask about what you're confused on because afaik there is no wiki page.
marble summit
Also, it seems like Custom Entities forget who they are when a plugin reloads or server resets?
Or do i need to make the plugin actually register them as a real entity for the entity to not forget what it is upon reboot
unreal quarry
@marble summit common problem I had with ridables. I don't remember my solution :3
unreal quarry
That's shitty :3
marble summit
Remove them from existence
And then respawn when loaded
Whats wrong with the idea? It would work
unreal quarry
That's real shitty lol
marble summit
It just saves the entities data into some sort of storage file
unreal quarry
Register them as real entities, firstly. Then work out a proper solution for restarts
limber knotBOT
This is the Timings report I'm examining: https://timings.aikar.co/?id=ff0222faf09042e8b586ec627e4cad7b
marble summit
What would i need to do to register?
limber knotBOT
Command Function is very vague and doesn't explain too much
unreal quarry
I have a post on papers forums, somewhere
marble summit
Is it just a function that does it
limber knotBOT
and there's a lot of hidden tick loss in Entities, but they don't fully break down what is being lost among the Entities
unreal quarry
Find it. Will need to work out the updated mappings on your own tho
marble summit
Ok
fervent marsh
i set it to 1 second now
marble summit
Found it
unreal quarry
That's gonna eat at your cpu @fervent marsh
The delay is there to prevent the same tile from updating so often as players build in the same area
fervent marsh
i got all the processing needed for now
marble summit
Way more simple than i thought it would be
Also, how does Minecraft Store Entities?
Like villagers, nametagged stuff, ect
unreal quarry
Minecraft stores entities as nbt on the world (or player if player is riding it and logs off)
unreal quarry
You won't need to know those details, tho
unreal quarry
Mc will take care of it for you
marble summit
Awesome
unreal quarry
Example ^
marble summit
So then, what if i checked all the entities in the game when the plugin loads with specific nbt?
unreal quarry
You won't need to
marble summit
Like lets say look for "CustomType"'s value and if its there do something to make the entity remember its custom
unreal quarry
If you properly register your entitytypes on load, the game will remember them
unreal quarry
I'm pretty sure. Worked for me
void void
Lordnewb, if I had to take a guess it would be that Command Function(s) are the processing of commands. Unfortunately which commands is not timed. Just the processing is.
cosmic raft
I can't, I'm in 100
unreal quarry
Okay :(
unreal quarry
Lol dualboxing discord clients
void void
I bet you could make a discord wrapper that facilitates that
cosmic raft
do it please
void void
maybe when im not drowning in school work
marble summit
Are there any path finders in NMS currently involving items?
void void
eta ~spring 2022
marble summit
Also, a way to connect to multiple self bot accs is easy
marble summit
fervent marsh
okay, so i just did it again with a force gen and radiusrender, it still has chunks that wont load at all at any zoom level.
unreal quarry
Teleport/fly there @fervent marsh
If dynmap doesn't see them, then those chunks never loaded
fervent marsh
so, if forcing a wb gen wont make them load, how can i ensure that dynmap will force load the chunks then?
im sitting out there and they are slowly starting to render
unreal quarry
Dynmap doesn't force load chunks. It reads region files that exist.
fervent marsh
thats what i mean, force it to read the chunks that obv exist already
fervent marsh
well it didn't
void void
they probably dont
fervent marsh
the chunk generation is quite slow especially when a simultaneous wb gen force true is running, these just loaded in.
fervent marsh
on top of that, there are chunks that are partially shaded, as if the shadows are not properly calculated
Yes, and they just said if WB didn't generate the chunk even with force on
peak kite
I think its a dynmap bug
unreal quarry
That's a bug in WorldBorder
peak kite
i see this also. but usually with pre 1.14.4 maps tho
unreal quarry
It's not fully loading chunks in some cases, which doesn't calculate light
Remember, dynmap doesn't load chunks to read them. It reads the raw region files on its own.
fervent marsh
so its missing the region files then, just passing them
unreal quarry
π€¦
void void
It's not passing them. They likely don't exist on disk.
unreal quarry
It's not fully loading chunks in some cases, which doesn't calculate light
fervent marsh
so you are saying, WB is not generating the files then
unreal quarry
Regions are huge.. 512x512 block chunks..
unreal quarry
Tiles
unreal quarry
Put simply, to fix your black spots run a worldborder fill with force loading set to true. After that finishes (not during) run a dynmap fullrender. If it's still not fix, go to those areas in game to force the chu ks to load properly, then run a dynmap radiusrender
If it's still not fixed after that, you broke something
unreal quarry
You're telling me... My world is 30k radius
peak kite
and if you don't purge the old map files first it may cause the map to remain broken
unreal quarry
I never finished my wb fill lol
Decided to just explore it instead
You don't need to purge if you're doing a fullrender
fervent marsh
i thought it would be wise, i could run two seperate server instances and run the WB fill on one, regular players on another, and syncronize the two file systems safely
unreal quarry
That's a good way to crash and corrupt your world
unreal quarry
If there was a better solution, everyone would know it by now
fervent marsh
i dont think anyone has even tried it
unreal quarry
Oh, people have. And still do.
fervent marsh
i mean, the files would be sent after shutdown
peak kite
and the other instance will error on write
fervent marsh
so it wouldn't be able to edit the preexisting, locked files, it would only copy in the new ones
unreal quarry
How big is your world?
peak kite
Just make a copy of the live server files, into anoher folder, and run a compare on the folders once your second copy is done?
fervent marsh
im only sitting at 15k max right now, but want to expand
pretty much, @peak kite
that way your TPS is not affected on the player side, and all generation is done on another thread.
unreal quarry
https://dynmap.pl3x.net is my map. That's a week straight of wb fill. All those black lines are from various crashes and restarts. Eventually just gave up and using rtp to fill it in slowly over time
peak kite
I do that to generate my maps for dynmap.
[0 20:11:03 INFO]: [dynmap] Full render of map 'flat(night/day)' of 'Earth' completed - 13617314 tiles rendered (14.88 msec/map-tile, 63.12 msec per render)
But I do it on another pc, because dynmap takes 100% cpu,
unreal quarry
Because dynmap has default settings to prevent it from causing lag
fervent marsh
i have expanded those
unreal quarry
By default dynmap will even stop completely is tps drops below 18
unreal quarry
I'm half asleep and forgot what were even talking about now. Best advise I can give is just be patient and let it do it's thing, I guess.
fervent marsh
@peak kite did you say you do that only for dynmap, or also for world gen?
I'm not sure that it would work in my setup either, i use the DB flat file for my dynmap too
peak kite
I do it for world gen also, but when I world gen with players, I divert players to the server doing the world gen. I have never done world gen while running a live server elsewhere.. i just did dynmap which is easy to do because dynmap can share a tile folder for both servers..
fervent marsh
well like you said, i would do the world gen on a separate server, then ONLY transfer the files that do not yet exist, that shouldn't cause a single error
peak kite
I wouldn't know, never looked at what happens to server files during wgen or from players. If its very easy like copy all files and don't overwrite any, done?
fervent marsh
yeah, i would guess
only copy over the MCA files that do not exist, unless there would be issues with the...
dim1 sections
im not entirely sure how those map files work, but writing in the nonexistant region files should work 100%
ill give it a go tonight and see how it plays out, maybe on a small test server
fervent marsh
Ew homework
void void
(not disputing im still a child)
ancient bolt
I was a child until I graduated
void void
same
ancient bolt
Now I have a master's degree and for some bullshit reason that doesn't mean people call me master
void void
they should
I wish each degree inferred a title of some sort
building up to doctor
but whatever
associate (in us) = associate, bachelor = journeyman, master = master, phd = doctor
or something like that
would be nice
candid hare
void void
hello @candid hare
candid hare
hiya
void void
when the youtube algorithm recommends me ^-^'s new elitemobs video
when i click it and he has a fucking ice ice baby remix in it
void void
.flags
limber knotBOT
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
void void
Actual depiction of ^-^ and his elite mobs plugin https://ifunny.co/fun/Ym129Ohz6?s=cl
hey so there's this build tool, gradle, have you heard of it?
feral hill
void void
chooses 7
acoustic pilot
Fucking Ubuntu and MariaDB has a confusing conf.d structure lol
There's a conf.d and mariadb.conf.d
Both appear to do the exact same thing
_>
void void
Crops are growing very slow with : /gamerule randomTickSpeed 3
Is it okay to change it to somewhere between 5-6 ?
yeah
void void
It's fine if you don't want a vanilla random tick speed. That's why it's there.
What will be good ? like 6 is fine ?
grand slate
Try it, until u like one
main rapids
glass sonnet
slim moon
ember moon
rigid oasis
https://twitter.com/Dinnerbone/status/1168818898101293056
What could that be?
Twitter
worn ember
inb4 modapi
rigid oasis
or maybe no more obsfuscation?
woven otter
vestal jasper
oof
rigid oasis
hope it will not be the modding-api
woven otter
bee
vestal jasper
well he did say small surprise and not big
rigid oasis
Oops, sorry π
worn ember
probably dickpic
vestal jasper
lol
woven otter
π
rigid oasis
damn keyboard
rigid oasis
I'm allergic to bees
woven otter
it's funny given that they added bees
rigid oasis
π
vestal jasper
purpur
woven otter
at Billy
vestal jasper
idk how billy does it but everything that's rideable in purpur (aka most living entities) are controllable with WASD
rigid oasis
maybe a "flower on a stick" π (like pigs)
woven otter
inb4 a hidden boat or something
worn ember
ππππππππππππππππΊππππ
vestal jasper
I wouldn't be surprised if the client still sends packets for trying to control things it's riding even if it can't control them
And the server normally silently ignores them
rigid oasis
hmm.. so a plugin could ...?
vestal jasper
Yes a plugin could
rigid oasis
Sounds nice
vestal jasper
See billy's abandoned plugin: rideables
worn ember
theres a few plugins that do it
rigid oasis
Packet-related stuff is higly version-dependant..
vestal jasper
There's numerous reasons entity riding is built into purpur instead of a plugin
worn ember
purpur ded
vestal jasper
ur ded
worn ember
yeet
woven otter
is it now built in purpur
rigid oasis
Maybe the Blaze3d eninge gets added?
quasi valley
... or added 
rigid oasis
I mean that bugs that let your game crash, not the entity
cunning badge
Do I really have to /s
quasi valley
it's the bugs and bugs update
grand slate
Introduce some new bugs, both types.
vestal jasper
Watch the "small surprise" be a prank and they do some shit to hinder modders
grand slate
I want mosquitos, kill all my players.
rigid oasis
I want 100% less performance issues..
grand slate
That's asking too much
rigid oasis
yes... bees are more important
vestal jasper
asking mojang for anything is asking too much
grand slate
No then paper'd be out of business
rigid oasis
Hmm
cunning badge
@quasi valley Well they didnt fix the important bugs
And some of the bugs exist since ages
quasi valley
isn't fixing ancient bugs kind of the point of a bugfix focused update
they'll get to the bigger stuff sooner or later, it's just been 2 snaps
rigid oasis
Ive never noticed any bug... but the performance sucks
cunning badge
Was it ever announced that 1.15 will be a bugfix focused update?
Everyone wishes it be one, but did Mojang announce that themself?
quasi valley
it's in the latest snapshot's notes
cunning badge
Oh good
vestal jasper
They announced somewhere that they'd spend the rest of the year working on bug fixes
cunning badge
Then im curious about what is happening
vestal jasper
and have that be the focus
so from now until the end of the year we are committing to bringing you all a better Minecraft experience, with less bugs and more frames!```
cunning badge
yea they fixed atleast leaves breaking causing 0 FPS 
vestal jasper
Are light updates still terrible client side?
Like if you have a giant platform floating above ground and break a block your client would freeze for 0.5 to 2 seconds
cunning badge
Ive never experienced that
vestal jasper
It would cause light to update below the platform and the client didn't like it
The greater the distance between the ground and the platform the more severe it would be iirc
cunning badge
I think because lighting calculation used to be done on a single thread
Which also contains the main game loop
vestal jasper
Is it multi threaded for both the client and the server or just the server?
Assuming it's calculated on both the server and client.
vestal jasper
It does
limber knotBOT
server does lighting, async
light veldt
limber knotBOT
not sure if its mutlithreaded, but its async and thats all that matters
dapper nacelle
Async makes everything faster
quasi valley
dapper nacelle
Just implement the Pwototypiee object and throw pwomisses all over the place UwU
wide chasm
I usually create a new thread in my main method and then run everything in there, so my entire program is async and will run super fast. /s
high geode
until u try to use Bukkit API 
wide chasm
No, that's fine, I have a big try/catch to ensure my programs don't break.
quasi valley
with an ignored exception of course, because our program runs error-free!
quasi valley
while we're at it, let's get rid of ticking, that costs too much performance
wide chasm
Introducing: "On-demand ticking". The game only ticks when you enter /tick.
dapper nacelle
Have a big recrusive method that calls itself when the try-catch catches an error
zealous knot
LOL ^
dapper nacelle
stefvanschie are you Dutch?
wide chasm
Yes
dapper nacelle
Ik ook
zealous knot
Stef is actually a gook
dapper nacelle
OwO
zealous knot
Arenβt you stef? @wide chasm
wide chasm
Maybe
zealous knot
Stef grows cockroaches as pets
main rapids
just wanted the paper source
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@main rapids I think people simply ignore you
Because that question is honestly dumb and got answered like 100 times
^this is where you obviously find the source
high geode
Darnit I need to upgrade my sarcasm sensors to avoid acting as fool next time
dapper nacelle
This discord server is filled with dark sarcasm
worn ember
leave my sarcasm out of it
dapper nacelle
This discord server is filled with dark
worn ember
are you calling me fat?
vestal jasper
Nah you can just avoid most of the sarcasm by asking real questions and understanding people's responses
Both of those things are pretty rare though
dapper nacelle
I have 2 pairs of studio monitoring headphones now
the Beyerdynamic DT 770's that arrived today sound like Sennheiser too much
its almost disgusting
but that's my hate for Sennheiser
worn ember
shouldnt you be in school anyway?
dapper nacelle
nah
starts Friday
than its PHP, SQL and database design time
I nearly puked writing those horrible things
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Those are all 3 really good things
worn ember
good luck with that
cunning badge
You can use that really well
worn ember
SQL queries are aids tho
cunning badge
They are not really difficult
And are important to learn
especially to prevent sql injections
worn ember
lol what
sql statements dont prevent sql injections
thats your application layer that has to deal with those
dapper nacelle
why did I buy 2 pairs of studio headphones smh
the closed back design doesn't even isolate sound as good as I'd hoped
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ofc the sql statement itself doesnt prevent sql injection 
cosmic raft
and yay work, just arrived
cunning badge
But how would you prevent sql injection if you dont even know how it works and why its so dangerous
dapper nacelle
I know some sql statements
cunning badge
And you simply dont write sql queries yourself
worn ember
uh what
dapper nacelle
of course you do
minor iron
I write sql queries?
worn ember
so do i
quasi valley
so does everyone
cunning badge
you all write raw sql queries?
minor iron
Yeah
dapper nacelle
yes
cunning badge
wtf
worn ember
they're way more efficient than anything a computer generates lol
minor iron
Thatβs like basic sql?
worn ember
just use mongo at that point lol
dapper nacelle
true
cunning badge
^this
minor iron
I use psql for everything
dapper nacelle
writing to json requires you to fetch the entire file and overwrite all of it
worn ember
json big bae
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@dapper nacelle gson might be a good start for that
minor iron
I use Json to store my hundreds of users passwords as raw text
dapper nacelle
TOML is big bae
minor iron
Security
dapper nacelle
cunning badge
@minor iron trust me .. there are so many websites that literally are still doing this
or saving them as md5 hash
minor iron
lol
minor iron
Base2
dapper nacelle
when someone enters their password its send as plain text to the server, right?
minor iron
Yeah
worn ember
i made a quote bot with admin panel at some point and forgot to sanitize the input, after 10 minutes i had alert boxes showing up and a giant vector smiley in my tables lul
minor iron
Obviously
cunning badge
well kind of
dapper nacelle
else the hash string could be exposed
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I mean https is encrypting it
worn ember
doesnt post do its own encryption? or am i dum dum
minor iron
Something
dapper nacelle
so separate encryption for sending data
cunning badge
this is the main reason why nearly all browsers force websites to use https
dapper nacelle
but not the same encryption as the passwords are stored in
cunning badge
when you send data to the server the data is always encrypted if you use https
dapper nacelle
how would you send a password to the server to verify if it is valid
minor iron
haha http ftw
cunning badge
and then on the server side the server is encrypting the password with an algorythm (I mainly use bcrypt)
worn ember
you compare the hashes
dapper nacelle
but then its hashed clientside
cunning badge
no
cunning badge
its encrypted using private and public keys
minor iron
worn ember
so the server/db never knows the password, only the hash
dapper nacelle
so server side you have to hash code to check for a stored matching value
cunning badge
yes
worn ember
yes, which is why you use SSL
cunning badge
yea the data send to the server is encrypted using https (SSL)
dapper nacelle
I see
minor iron
mhm
cunning badge
so if you enter a password on an http website, literally everyone is able to read it
dapper nacelle
oof
minor iron
minor iron
Heroku pleas give me certificate
dapper nacelle
I have an oracle certificate
cunning badge
SSL certificates are free
minor iron
They donβt let me attach one to my app unless I pay them
jaunty bolt
the old site our school used stored passwords in plaintext π
minor iron
But I have the certificate already
cunning badge
just use LetsEncrypt for SSL certs
everyone that is paying for SSL certs is literally wasting money
worn ember
pretty sure cloudflare gives SSL too
jaunty bolt
and they used a .StartsWith to verify it, so like if you put
"ActualPassword" followed by random characters it'd work
worn ember
wtf
dapper nacelle
I need to find a way to remove ms paint
worn ember
sue that school
dapper nacelle
its annoying af
worn ember
cloudflare uses letsencrypt
dapper nacelle
everytime I type paint in the windows search bar with the intent to open paint.net it opens ms paint
worn ember
pretty sure
minor iron
Cloud flare hosts?
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no
worn ember
i host on my own vps
minor iron
They wonβt allow me to have a letβs encrypt certificate unless I give them moola
dapper nacelle
worn ember
and use cloudflare for the DNS and encryption
vestal jasper
LOL
cunning badge
I highly doubt that any company is taking this even a bit serious
vestal jasper
^
cunning badge
Such certificates are handed out to every dumbass
worn ember
i have a typing certificate, plz hire me
cunning badge
you can visit a 5 hour workshop and get such a thing
congratz you are now an elastic search specialist
minor iron
I am proficient in excel
dapper nacelle
I have a lace bow diploma please hire me
dapper nacelle
ffs google translate fucked that sentence up
cunning badge
google translate 
dapper nacelle
anyways the diploma they hand you in primary school if you can tie your shoes
not sure what its called in English or if that's even a thing
worn ember
plz hire me i have 1 empty static page and 660+ vistors a month. i must be god
dapper nacelle
UwU
minor iron
Lol what how
worn ember
good domain ig Β―_(γ)_/Β―
dapper nacelle
minor iron
Lmao
dapper nacelle
oh rip
worn ember
403
dapper nacelle
no site
minor iron
Forbidden
worn ember
good job
minor iron
Smh
dapper nacelle
well thats my Minecraft server ip
minor iron
Youβre running Apache on it because?
cunning badge
wasting memory
dapper nacelle
the way I set up the dsn settings I don't thing that I could use it for Minecraft and webhosting at the same time
worn ember
dapper nacelle
oof TPH
minor iron
Well if youβre having poor performance you know why
worn ember
free karma points lol
minor iron
OwO
worn ember
i jsut got nothing to put on it
minor iron
So Iβll be not showing that for now
worn ember
pussy
cunning badge
Im too lazy to add my 20 gamesjam entries to my website
dapper nacelle
ok I am starting to get hearing damage from playing weeb music too loud
minor iron
weeb music
dapper nacelle
I was afraid of playing it loud on my open back headphones so I always refrained from that
but now I have closed back
cunning badge
What is weeb music?
dapper nacelle
uhm
quasi valley
music for weebs
worn ember
plz dont ask
quasi valley
like him
cunning badge
oh rly? Kenny? π
dapper nacelle
The songs they use in the anime as theme songs
minor iron
Okay Kenn
dapper nacelle
or outro songs
cunning badge
Im asking what stuff in particulary
dapper nacelle
but damn this is some high class music
quasi valley
umbrella term for "weird" anime/manga(/hentai) people
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Yea didnt expect anything else from you when I saw your pp @dapper nacelle
void void
Uh... uhhhhh..... UHHHHHHHHHH.... https://twitter.com/Dinnerbone/status/1168818898101293056
Twitter
quasi valley
with a sliiiightly negative connotation
cunning badge
@void void this has been posted like 3 or 4 times already
dapper nacelle
WEEB MUSIC
worn ember
i like how this just works lol
dapper nacelle
oh this one is gud
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ew windows
void void
REACTIONS!!!! @cunning badge whats the general opinion on it?
quasi valley
how should we have any opinion on t hat
dapper nacelle
@worn ember do you have experience with frame works?
dapper nacelle
javascript frameworks
cunning badge
I bet they added plugin support on their realms or shit
worn ember
only jquery and node
cunning badge
Vue is okay
dapper nacelle
and its pretty new
void void
@cunning badge i swear to jebus if thats all it is i will flip some shayt
worn ember
if anything i'd learn typescript
cunning badge
Typescript is better, but I mean its still javascript
dapper nacelle
why try to make javascript something its not and never will be
worn ember
oh i've used ThreeJS before too
dapper nacelle
the user still has to have js enabled, right?
worn ember
that lib is pretty lit
worn ember
^^
cunning badge
and then complain on the support hotline that the website isnt working
dapper nacelle
lol
cunning badge
good luck you use technology from 20 years ago
quasi valley
and mc versions from 5 years ago
dapper nacelle
yeah
they better optimise the fuck out of it with 1.15
likely it will be worse if it repeats it pattern
quasi valley
and hopefully they'll already include their pvp stuff in 1.15, not later
cunning badge
All my websites simply print out a message on internet explorer: "You are unable to visit this webpage, because you are using a garbage internet browser. Please install a non braindead browser"
dapper nacelle
yes
and hopefully bukkit, spigot and paper distributes 1.8 jars that are broken af
to sabotage the 1.8 users
cunning badge
Same for most safari users
dapper nacelle
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html lang="en">
<head id="head">
<meta charset="utf-8">
<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=edge">
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0">
<meta id="description" name="description" content="">
<link rel="icon" href="<%= BASE_URL %>favicon.ico">
<script src=""></script>
<title>hotel-booking</title>
</head>
<body>
<noscript>
<strong>We're sorry but hotel-booking doesn't work properly without JavaScript enabled. Please enable it to continue.</strong>
</noscript>
<div id="app"></div>
<!-- built files will be auto injected -->
</body>
</html>
a school project
I should change the noscript message
to something more aggressive
void void
why does your head have an id
dapper nacelle
oh fuck my font awesome kit exposed
cunning badge
he just said it
its a school project
do you really expect they learn anything good in a SCHOOL?
cunning badge
My school teacher tried to make me use a while(true) for all my application loops
dapper nacelle
router.beforeEach((to, from, next) => {
document.title = to.meta.title;
descriptionElement.content = to.meta.description;
next();
});
oh wait
not for this
cunning badge
He also created threads that he never joined / stopped
worn ember
still needs a lot of work lul
dapper nacelle
because getElementByName is fucking broken
cunning badge
doesnt make sense either
worn ember
cuz its an array lol
void void
document.head
cunning badge
if you use .head or head makes no difference