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"Shared hosts are great and cheap and wonderful for small servers!"
"I just don't understand the hate on them!"
"I highly recommend XYZ.pro!"
If it's too good to be true...
its a taco?
Shared hosts prey on people to not know anything about hardware
They just throw out big numbers that people want to see
"32GB RAM! 200GB DISK!"
It's funny because we had this conversation earlier today, too.
But the details are a lot less appealing
Dylan was there too?
No
"512mb heap for all servers"
"yeah just set a 512mb hard cap, who cares if the kernel reaps that shit"
rewrites history
force push it
I would but Paper's main repo is a bit more sensitive than paperclip-maven-plugin...
I use my server to test my plugin with other people. I never noticed bad tps so I think a shared host is sufficient for a server with like 6 plugins
MC shared hosts in particular are very predatory.
Interesting, so they have a setup for errors and it will show you error logs outside of the regular log
lowering this discord's IQ
i think dylan is the most predatory of the entire mc community
bad advice here, bad advice there, bad advice for everyone!
No need to go out of my way to spent more on a dedi when this is sufficient for me
Tempting, but price point still not good https://i.imgur.com/T0QkT1T.png
That's 1lb I think
Yeah it is
oh boy
that company is doomed after the stock fiasco
So what's the advantage of removing gson dependency in the part of paper that doesn't actually run as a server?
i thought beyond meat was the new lab-grown meat technology?
nope
<Main-Class>io.papermc.paperclip.Main</Main-Class>
disappointing, was hoping that technology was getting closer to a reality
Still too expensive for 1lb of "ground beef" for me to be interested ๐
When regular is like $5
@fallen oracle the fuck are you talking about https://github.com/PaperMC/Paperclip/blob/master/assembly/pom.xml#L78
simple, if you had 3 dollars to spent monthly and you need to run a minecraft server. Which option would be best price to performance according to you.
correct
@ancient bolt Yeah you just changed it
local server with Hamachi POGGERS
Hey, good job on remembering the $ this time in the pom for the java version.
Which option would be best price to performance according to you.
home host or don't bother
$ is to painful to type on phone
that was a templating error
Ik
never forgot anything
Just giving you hard time
Home host or don't bother... if your wifi is shit and you absolutely have to have a server running that is accesable outside of localhost. What then
This is the point where you have to run it off of hardware thats not your own
define shitty wifi
And the benefit deals with classloaders and dependency management and cloassloading orders and things like that, doesn't affect anyone really so don't worry about it
I mean if its a desktop use ethernet
Like everyone who connects has 400 ping
Thats not too bad, i mean i have 200 on Hypixel and everythins is smooth
And max 30mbps bandwitdh
You use the network with 4 other people at once
I have like 50 devices on my home network
Sleep time

I've used up all my gay
With home hosting you are also exposing your own network which is the main drawback
I have just one question. How close is redstone on paper to vanilla? I'm just concerned about using vanilla redstone builds and having them not function the same on paper. So far (currently using Spigot), redstone seems to be behaving normally but I do have basic farms for now such as 0 tick bamboo and sugar cane being my most complex contraptions.
If not report it as issue
Oh shit, Kevin Hart was in a major car crash today.
Is eigencraft optimized redstone or?
btw, how do you disable xp merging on spigot/paper?
decrease the merge radius
What is the vanilla radius?
6
I also home host which works reliably for me and gf, and saves money but of course I do have concerns about ddos attacks. It is what it is. Hopefully, with it being a private server, I shouldn't encounter many issues. ^^
and sorry i meant increase it
ty
Hi I need help with naming methods. I want to implement the method void load(File file) in two ways. One that catches exceptions and logs them and the other one throws them. But otherwise they behave exactly the same way. How would you name these methods?
of course the names have to be different ..
load - throws as that seems to be the expected pattern with IO in most langs
loadSilent loadQuiet loadNoThrow etc
for the other
just make sure it's doc'd and call it good
Okay thanks. loadSilent sounds good ..
If youre in a language where throws are not the common convention, adjust accordingly
just seems that most languages with the capability make that the expected default convention
java ..
yeah then definitely throw on the normally named one
and just make sure the silent variant is doc'd so people understand what the silent means
Okay, thanks for the advice. That's helpful!
Guys... maybe I should open source this and get it all over with
what's that
A server list.
oh boy
And it's my first Django project.
summer is over we cant have more summer server lists /s
(unless you're selling slots in which case count me in)
๐ค
lol
advertise ur serbur?
no
I could hack in slots support and just bring it up under a different name lol
cash in on others adverrtising their serburs
all money to me, tho
tbh if your server's up there that'd be a pretty big negative
I'll pay a small taco indemnity but that's it
"this guy's here? fuck this shit"
Tell me you're not the dude I gave a piece of my mind on the forums a month ago
For opening a new server list
lol
always graciously accept taco and taco related expenditures
I was inspired by that guy @fallen oracle
[IMG]
The goal of this website is to bring together communities and create more affordable advertising options for servers. We have a great amount of...
server list for beta servers only
how many tacos does it take to choke yourself with
taco
that's an expenditure you should go on
praise be the taco
So in a way, I did give you a piece of my mind.
server list for beta servers only
k just need to hack in minequery support
also gotta promote canyon for the memes
Is Dejango fun? I've used it a bit but I haven't looked too much into it
I love Django
But if you're not a fan of MVC, you may not like it
django is probably the best python framework
Django?!?!?
mvc?
Model-View-Controller (Django is model-template-view)
Ahh
If MVC isn't your cup of tea, Flask is a good choice
Isn't that what XenForo is?
I think...?
I've been playing with this https://www.gatsbyjs.org/
js ๐คข
js 
I mean, I could have a React frontend interface with a Django backend
^
That is a perfectly valid way to write a Django application
Apparently it's real good for WordPress
unconditionally
still havent found a good reason to try typescript
maybe that would make me think better of it
TS I've heard is epic
thing better of it
hasStarte
I also never do JS so I have never done it
mfw
didnt even to know if it'd starte
ur ending
dummy dum
if I had two remaining braincells
and one of them was dying let's say
and you offered to lend me one of yours
not only would I reject that offer but I'd be surprised you'd offer your last remaining braincell
u fuking retard
not even a macro
z just pulls epic prs nowadays 
even has an API, lol https://gyazo.com/cc7cd1a1515e8eb332162865659b14c1
what the absolute fuck
server list api 
tbh most of it anymore is managing infra, fixing it talking to infra, pulling prs, and dealing with the other stuff
and apparently solaris console support
gotta have that
We use Django for PAPI
booting up windows xp
Imagine making your vote field a "CharField" and not "ManyToManyField"
fucking works on Windows XP
NO
doesn't work on Windows NT 3.51
pls fix
MY STUFF IS FINE
also running it on Alpha AXP
I just use the github bash
github bash lets me use linux cmds
like sh and touch
B)
wow touch
lmao
that was after that PR
the image is called "motherfucking-xp.png"
imagine knowing how to use PRs
went and tested on XP
didnt even have my crutch powershell
had to use actual CMD
and shit works fine
lmao
FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE
doesn't work ๐
ur memes r dumb
Im keeping that for posterity
dumb
at everyone why can't I get server work halp!!111!111@
I just looked at the pins
there are a lot
and none of them make sense
the good ones are in -help
cuz z decided reee let's move the general channel to help 
ree
Interesting. Laravel has a web panel now
have it backwards like the leaf you are
no 
What is a "no table"
We lost our tables.
People who are notable for not having a table
did they drop their sql tables
or a functioning brain
did they get injection hacked
I'm not salt ๐
leaf do you hear that?
you could sell yourself
for money
you could be a salt mine

why is saltedleaf more blurry than spottedleaf
yeah
discord text rendering is pure garbage
that's my favorite xkcd
what is up with your windows install
reee let's switch between aliasing
or is that a side effect of discord light theme
mfw blaming white theme
light theme is garbo
yes
black theme is trash
ignore aliasing issues
quite literally
you know what trashcans usually are
ship it boyz
Lite theme
mfw
deal
z
s
mfw you don't use dark theme
you must've put ur braincells in a garbage bag
explains all the TRASH they come up with
I hope so, probably gonna need those

Leaf ur retarded
z
Leaf uses white theme wtf
at least do it right
dude everyone hatin on leaf
@ everyone: leaf uses light theme
doit
Leaf do you wear sunglasses when you use discord?
^
I've monitor brightness = 100
ohno
Of 1000?
You've lost it leaf
/ban leaf
I'd rather litterally look at the sun
you'd be dumb enough to
at least then my eyes would burn out

I wouldn't be eternally tortured

need a concrete emote
Imagine using light theme lmfao
gimme a second



for lite theme
Would rather walk on legos
such hatred for white theme
Wish they never un deleted it...
wish they'd do it properly
What's wrong with it?
Actually, yeah, that's a good idea for Canyon. I should integrate Minequery and GS4 support.
Minequery is more appropriate for the time.
I personally think the choice of white is a bad design
I dont even think the white is the bad part
its the grey ass text they put on top
horrible to read
is canyon the name of your 1.7.3 server?
yes
I had to go hide the brownies. These things are way too fuck dangerous
They are warm and gooey
And why yes, I have written code for it @upper flicker https://github.com/canyonmodded/Canyon-Server
What's the point of it?
metaphors, metaphors, metaphors
bloody mary bloody mary bloody mary
> shared random
did you check nothing was fucking with it
ran into that one here in the great mojang future
hey-o
I did check. setSeed() seems not to be called by any entities.
apparently this is the answer to my wanting to relive the 1.7.3 beta period
yes
still the best version
join the revolution
down with 1.15 "The Bee Update", up with 1.7.3 Beta (the very best)
Just add bees to 1.7.3
tbh the only thing you'd really miss for 1.7.3 is sprinting and some item stacking improvements
bees sounded dumb first but now i think they are cool
time to break out the client mods
notable features of Canyon:
- chunk sending that doesn't suck
- Netty networking stack
- started working on removing some of the worst Mojang/CB code
Okay but I thought people just used 1.8, 1.13, and 1.14
soon:
- async chunk loading/saving (when I find the time)
- MineQuery support
- the return of online mode...? (with a mod/custom launcher)
what part of revolution did you not understand Glare?
I'm about to go into sugar coma
technically, this is a counter-revolution ๐
Here is your type writer https://www.typescriptlang.org/
TypeScript brings you optional static type-checking along with the latest ECMAScript features.
Canyon?
What's MineQuery
scroll up
Prepare to get taken back to the "Golden Age of Minecraft"
NO U SCROLL UP
๐ข
As for Minequery, https://github.com/vexsoftware/minequery
NSA telemetry
It's what you had before the Server List Ping packet or even GS4 support
going to have to hard fork to remove
2012 was where the world ended
why not 1.8 beta

Yeah
HE*CK
That's right
I did it
I used my big boy voice
oh fuck
oh shit
it's been merged
When it's been merged but it doesn't show up ๐ฆ
tbf, the Windows NT kernel was much more reliable than the Windows 9x kernel
It doesnt auto build anymore
Ahh so you have to do that manually?
yeah there was some issue with it and I never fixed it so I just turned it off
thats another small project for another day
Fair enough
I just have a script that fetches, builds, moves to a unique dir and symlinks
So run the script lmao
It's that ez
I can just eventually make it call that whenever I get bored
:4head:
It's there!
WE'VE DONE IT BOYS
I finally did something good in my life
Now leaf has free rein to yell at people who ask for support for those versions cause of what they agree to when they download.
we yell at people regardless
Should've added in "by asking for help, you will be yelled at by a leaf"
pr or shutup
nope, works perfectly as far as I can tell
there is an XP 64bit edition
i mean the wallpaper looks terrible lol
most versions of XP were not 64bit
im not running 64bit
XP was like the windows teething issue release of windows 64bit
1440p 32bit aaaa
lmao i love how windows xp shows connecting over https as a warning / error
Something is really fucked up with my Surface. It says that Z closed that PR 2 hours ago
as if my notifications werent rekt enough as is
Security Alert
"In the future, do not show this warning"
Internet Explorer on Windows Server 2019 still does on first run too last I checked
what are they even warning

Spotted told me to PR or shut up
this doesn't count
Then what the fuck do you want
what the fuck
" <p><strong>This build is purely for accessibility. By clicking the download button, you acknowledge that no support will be provided whatsoever. You also acknowledge that tacos are tasty and that by asking for support, you understand that you will be yelled at by a leaf.</strong></p>"
like
type asdf in xp explorer
automatically searches asdf in bing
when the fuck did bing happen
I thought it was way after xp
it was
bing happen 2001?
did they add this in SP3 or something
what happened to my pogu emote
but MS uses standard links for all that shit
oh
they can just remap that after the fact
can't use it here
or some others
@static badge 
Guess leaf won't be able to yell at people then
I mean it allows it to render
Z
google doesn't
ye where my emotes go
yes I watch a lot of russian television
z did u ban those emotes ๐
Smh
YOU DON'T GET THEM BECAUSE METAL IS BITCHING
Glare found his big boy voice tonight
dude
I'm chocolate wasted
you changed one html line and call it a pr
I'm aware
as you will see
still not the weirdest PR we've gotten
Stop showing them
the glory of open source has always had dumb jokes in it
What's the weirdest PR you've gotten?
lol
If it was good enough, you would've bookmarked it.
I only have one thing in the paper repo bookmarked
is it the first commit
Is it the auto close button?
Ahh
mfw
Yeah, trump reached out to them
pretty sure that was pre-trump
pre trump
but idk not gonna unclose the tab to check
>9:59 PM] Z750: but idk not gonna unclose the tab to check
> idk not gonna unclose the tab to check
Before his time
not keeping it open in the first place
> unclose the tab to check
i don't know how to do those
> tab
ForgingMetalToday at 8:00 PM
i don't know how to do those
so enjoy strike through
Strike through
GlรคreToday at 3:00 PM
ForgingMetalToday at 8:00 PM
i don't know how to do those
not like that
ForgingMetalToday at 8:00 PM
so enjoy strike through
Strike through
GlรคreToday at 3:00 PM
ForgingMetalToday at 8:00 PM
i don't know how to do those
firefox makes it hard to download for windows on linux
with a space
ah
<>it's not working>
why isn't it working at everyone help
yo
OLD WOMAN
you can both go to bed
tbh sounding kinda nice
IKR
don't worry z
dont have to go to work tomorrow sooooo
i'll take over
I have to travel tomorrow
have to travel
oh
#brownie-help
#ovh-help
your punishment is that you will be forced to use discord light theme for a week
ah yes
look at that horrible contrast
ONE WHOLE WEEK
not a 4 day week, not a business week, a full 7 day week
White theme god lord
U make my hole weak Zach

I like how Z750 relates to information about Zach. The Z stands for Zach and the 750 is his birth month and day
750 is the birth year
U OLD FUK GO TO BED
ok but there aren't 50 days in any month
OLD FUK
turn up your monitor brightness
"7 & 50" "75 & 0"
I can't
My battery will die
We've been through this
My Surface has battery issues so I reset it
U'll kill yer battery
(DiscordBot) Don't Even Say Nothing To Me Boy ( Vine ) - length 7s - 1,915 likes, 37 dislikes (98.1%) - 224,888 views - KORNER - Channel on 2014.12.22
rekt
Can someone explain the anti xray feature? we have it enabled, but it has not helped our issue at all
Okay
that wasn't even git patches
that was CB patches
wtf the git patches are faster
the fuck
tags as upstream
to make our build xp compatible we'll need to add a few -Xmx1524m's to the build scripts
otherwise, hopefully I'm not speaking too soon, I think developing on xp is totally possible
just need to install intellij to be sure
What's the big deal about xp
its a meme
damn z went off on PRs today. thought we were finally gonna hit 60
my friens
.kill Christ loves ducks
(DiscordBot) I can't attack that.
stabs Christ in the heart a few times with a sword blade.
oh,
.kill xD
throws DiscordBot to Cthulu and watches them get ripped to shreds.
uses the 'Customer Appreciation Bat' on Vicarious.
not a very fitting way to due to die to Cthulhu
Also not the right way to spell it
DiscordBot ripping himself to shreds due to going insane merely from looking at Cthulhu is more appropriate imo
Welcome my child backup has arrived
Where has everyone gone
SLeeping, like responsible people?
Seriously?
Noobs
5:11pm
i am awake
More like goof
Goof
Good time of day. Tell me popular launchers for servers with mods? It is for your server.
I know, maybe just someone knows such launchers here.
I would go ask in the forge discord if I were you.
I used nametag to name a zombie villager and then i cured him... The villager seems like not responding or doing anything. (1.13.2_)
Anyone know where i went wrong?
Yo. Our toaster of a machine can't keep up and players are annoyed by the 10TPS we're at atm
Would this fare any better? Or do we need a fucking super computer to get decent performance out of 1.14
because if so I'll just hack into the uni computer
What do u have atm?
a 4770 xd
Lol yea it's just 1.14 i reckon
maybe your code just sucks city
Dum duck
u the dum one
mfw people smurf and feel the need to harass other players for not being as good as them
"why does this new account play vs weak opponents?"
Mfw duck dum
mfw u dum
I run with 20TPS on my 8700, but even starting the server on the 4770 drops tps down to 14 lol
without players
1.14 = 14 tps
also fuck the hetzner network, they drop about a third of the packets lel
support: we're having temporary problems
a week later and it has gotten worse
Also, their "intelligent DDOS protection" thinks uploading two files via sftp is a ddos attack
I have about 10-15 % package loss against my own servr
The box was cheap tho so I guess we get what we (don't) pay for
Why are you on 1.14 anyway?
Because there are people that dont like to be on versions that are 4 years old
The performance is okay after the async chunk loading patch and it will hopefully be improved in 1.15
1.13.2 is not 4 years old
Its as worse as 1.14
no 1.14 is definitely much worse than 1.13
And the reference was to 1.8, because most people love to stay on that version
@vestal jasper I havent had that experience yet
I love to beat people that use 1.8
you must not be running a survival server then
Nope Im not
We're on 1.14 because the players want 1.14. Also, there were plenty of additions to 1.14 that we wanted to be able to use in-game.
MMORPG server with compleate cutom plugins and multi threading
i play on a survival server that runs 1.14 and even with 2 people it lags lul
like literal blocklag
Then the admins are doing something wrong
well its vanilla so not much to do right ๐
He could install paper
yeah but he wont
Then the admins are doing something wrong
call him a retard
^this
ok
Paper improves performance by like 90%
(I dont have any numbers, but feels like it)
done
lol
previews arent loading for me
Same
Not for me either.
Had to click on show original
its big poop face
lol wtf
Middle clicking the image immediately opens it in the borwser (saves you a click)
discord is having problems atm
you have problems
shit doesn't load for me either, on any server
when you gonna start begging for money again?
in other news one of my flash drives decided to wipe itself
Im EU
So its working 
DC had tons of problems in the past days
oh nvm it's just being insanely slow
yes

rip
lets bully kitty instead
Let's bully dark for saying lets not let's
I mean, we've already ported all of our plugins to 1.14 nms xd
Oh ok you're commited
I wish we just used citizens instead of a custom NPC plugin at this point
switching versions would be so much easier
?
What
is getting out the ban hammer! โฌโฌโฌโฌโฌโฌโฌโ รโญโฎร
cat is drunk
Confuzed
Ah
เฒ _เฒ
Anyway city, I never do custom npcs :d
Let's ban dark for saying lets again
why are you even here, you can't even afford Minecraft
I mean, we finally have the NPC stuff working properly but it has been a pain in the ass
minecraft 1.15 comes out in 9 hours btw @heady spear
If it works now, that's fine
We had plenty of minor problems with citizens, that made us want to switch over. I can't say it was worth it tho
I mean, at least I get paid per hour ๐
Welcome

If you are not able to do it then learn it
Try stuff out and learn from your mistakes
i was joking tbh
kk
kkk
ohno
Aww man
maybe also with caffeine 
i spend 1.3k on a new laptop ๐
ohhh nice
I want to get a new laptop but I can't justify it, when I have my desktop :p
Im getting a laptop from my company which im able to use for private stuff too
Win win
Where's Mr. Pepe? 
@heady spear i need a decent one for school, my current one cant even play a video in 1080p without lagging lol
nor run a VM
since it only has 4GB RAM
@upper flicker was that you that did this? https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/drunk-florida-man-tries-to-use-taco-as-id-after-his-car-catches-fire-at-taco-bell-6535056
Tacos are not recognized as legal forms of identification in the state of Florida [insert bad joke about immigration laws here]. Matthew Falkner found out the hard way after he passed out drunk in the drive-thru of a Jensen Beach Taco Bell and his car caught fire [insert bad ...
No
or, you know.... get a normal laptop from a normal brand
Apple is a normal brand?
no
I want mac os :3
why would you go with such a restrictive brand with that amount of money? you could have a custom built laptop how you want it for that much lol
and do what ever you like
otherwise I'll have to wipe windows and install ubuntu, kinda gross
I recently became a chad linux user
Have fun paying the price of a new laptop when a FUCKING battery connector gets disconnected
Nic angery
impying that oem servicing ain't BS elsewhere
@heady spear You know... the problem isn't the OS... It might be you..
:o
@upper flicker would you accept taco as ID
Unless you're in warrenty, it's pretty much very rarely ever worth it going back to the device manf to get it repaired
No, only as payment
so a bribe
There you go
That doesn't only apply to apple, but to pretty much every single device manf out there
except apple doesn't even repair their devices' boards... they just replace them
Apple charges for warranties at this point
Most manufacturers replace them
^
Source: razer wanted to replace mine for $1300
It's not economical for them to do board level repairs on the #'s they have to deal with
Apple still has to provide a manufacture warranty for a set period of time for free fyi
Imagine being a cyclops tho
How long does it take to replace a TPM...Sensor
Been an hour and they moved my car but I'm still waiting I guess
Faster to swap birds on the front end and try and repair them on the back end, then use those as recertified replacement parts
TPM sensors are a pain sometimes depending on the car
No one does board level repair at scale
they are very fragile
hmmmmm
It's not efficient
I usually don't get my TPM sensors replaced when I know in about 1 month they are just going to go out again
shops here must offer at least 1 year warranty on everything
otherwise you can just sue ๐คท
I think I read in some countries it's 2 years even
Isn't that common on all European countries?
Damn EU with your consumer protections
Imagine not leaving the EU lmfaoo
I've never had issues with my TPMS in my 10 year old car
yeah other countries have it better then the US when it comes to mandated warranties on electronics lol
Not for you nubs
This is the first one to go out
when they put the TPM sensor in they have to calibrate them so it knows the tires are at the right pressure though
Or, you know... spend money on an actually decent laptop...
Nic angery
Well they've parked my car out front now so I guess they are done
Get what you want
.typing
You'll get the same treatment from dell as you would HP as you would apple
Fuck the shills and the haters
is that worth using sql server on google cloud plan
If it's a windows PC, get that
Pick what works for you
If it's a Mac, get that
Just realised i've been on low battery mode > 1 week
One can literally get an $800 laptop that's probably better performing than a mbp
I like my mbp and don't give half a fuck what anyone thinks about that, you do you
Usually it doesn't take all that long if you have a shop with a decent crew
Id never use windows for development
Man. I slept really good, and y'all still arguing about this stuff.
I care about hardware and software that works for me, Apple is one of few companies who can actually offer a usable environment for me
Having bounced from like 5 different laptops of various prices, I don't regret my MBP purchase one bit



