It's too flashy, tries to know too much, too confusing tbh. I use evernote if i must plan digitally, but i prefer paper tbh
#general
grand slate
hot gorge
Doctor emails me my appointment information, from the email I can add it to calendar and then copy it over to work calendar and invite my bosses so they know I have an appointment
Coordinating with the wife is awesome too
And the smart reply is Gmail is killer
grand slate
Oh god noooo nightmare
hot gorge
Works really well for me
grand slate
I lose track of what i'm doing if something else manages it for me
hot gorge
Wat
grand slate
I think the only reason i have a smart phone is for discord & a browser
hot gorge
PM me your address and I'll mail you some hard candies you can gum all day, you old man. Lol
Will ship international
austere ivy
Gosh my iPhone 6s Touch ID is broken again. This is the second time this has happened. I don’t know what apple does but pre iPhone 7 home buttons fail constantly
woven otter
hm for the candies
void void
so I guess if you pass in a .class as an argument it does not instanceof itself, but if you pass in an object of the class it does instanceof itself 🤦
woven otter
wow surprising
void void
I mean, literally the same class
hot gorge
History class?
void void
At first I hated this Optionals rewrite of the plugin because of how much work it took to rewrite the server to use Optionals, but now it works and it works great. It makes perfect sense too, if minigame is not present you are in hub, which makes logical sense, and if it is present you are in a minigame and you can further figure out which minigame it is from there.
Once the plugin was able to compile & enable, I was able to get the rest figured out very quickly and now it is working well.
limber knotBOT
[egg82] surprisingly few people on IRC, didn't expect that
quasi valley
irc
pulsar wigeon
yea most irc ppl use spigots shitty irc :^)
and #paper-dev etc arent on esper, just this one
hot gorge
The spigot irc.... 
mint sequoia
For some weird reason, when i connect to my minecraft server with its public ip from my own house the entire modem from my internet company crashes
Literally the internet in the entire house stops until it self reboots
limber knotBOT
there we go
mint sequoia
Kinda funny, that should really never happen
worn ember
Time to call tech support kek
limber knotBOT
yeah, that seems wrong
maybe too many packets?
router's running on a Pentium II or something? :P
worn ember
What do the logs say?
hot gorge
Are you hosting the server at home?
worn ember
I don't think so. You can't connect to the public IP from your own network I think
void void
you can if you setup the network correctly
mint sequoia
Uhm
worn ember
"correctly" is not the right term here lol
void void
that's how I am able to connect with my public ip
mint sequoia
Its connected trough a switch
worn ember
Is it in your local network?
mint sequoia
But either way under no circumstances should the actual modem itself crash and restart xdd
When i connect to the local ip it never happens, but to my public ip it happens all the time
void void
poop
mint sequoia
Its just weird af and i am gonna blame my provider company for making a modem that crashes in the first place
void void
peepee poo poo
worn ember
Use your local ip then
void void
poopity scoop
scooptitty poop
Just enable QOS packet scheduler on windows so the public ip is resolved to local ip if the public ip matches your remote ip
mint sequoia
I hope they get spammed with error reports over there
worn ember
... I give up
void void
yes the modem shouldn't crash
mint sequoia
Just sometumes i forget and its annoying
void void
though I don't know much about modems since we have broadband dsl and we have a gateway router which is a modem and router in one
poopity bungo
hot gorge
I love my unifi gear
void void
Real talk
if someone picks up thor while he picks up his hammer are they worthy
Or what if you’re holding the hammer with him and both of you lift at the same time
mint sequoia
but its the actual modem that crashes that connects their crap to actual lan ports so i cant really do much about it
worn ember
Sucks to suck
mint sequoia
i love taking it up the ass from our duopoly internet providers in belgium
void void
You like taking it up the ass?
limber knotBOT
don't we all?
void void
u right
void void
void void
Can I touch your cuchi
worn ember
@mint sequoia oh fellow belgian, what provider do you use?
limber knotBOT
@void void less appropriate. Would definitely steer away from the direction you're heading
worn ember
idk, a proper provider 😉
limber knotBOT
not a super appropriate joke is my point
worn ember
but then again, there arent any
void void
Got a stick up the bum doncha
worn ember
i use scarlet omegalul
void void
if someone can check my problem with waterfall please
wide hazel
o.o
void void
quasi valley
just wait for a response, someone will eventually come 👀
limber knotBOT
that's odd, is there no +Z on Spigot's IRC?
austere ivy
Alright Tea, clear your caches and go to tehbrian.xyz and tell me what you think please ^-^
I literally added one @media query LOL.
limber knotBOT
am using TLS
austere ivy
limber knotBOT
weird
void void
wide chasm
I'd go for 50% font-size.
limber knotBOT
24%
void void
that is huge text
wide chasm
I can barely read the text at 13%, I'd personally do 40%-50% is nice.
And make the Answers in the Q&A smaller than the question. And make the links smaller than the main text.
worn ember
regular text should just be 1em 1.2at most
wide chasm
Actually, remove the links entirely, just add a bar of icons as footer which redirect you to the appropriate sites.
void void
Merp one (1) player on the server I run just keeps losing connection for "Timed out" 
Could it be the compression lmao
worn ember
probably just shitty internet
woven otter
what about some weird ddos protection
austere ivy
Okay so halve the font size, make the answers smaller than the question, make the links a footer.
void void
austere ivy
How's the website on phones?
worn ember
an SQL server walks up to two tables and asks, mind if i join you?
void void
I'm actually genuinely surprised my ChatItem rewrite survived this commands, minigames, and optionals rewrite without a hitch
worn ember
ok
austere ivy
dun dun dunnnnn
we now know your minecraft username
prepare to get doxxed mawuahha
void void
/rg flag -w [Yourworldname] global deny-spawn minecraft:villager
How can i revert this ?
austere ivy
/s
void void
same as my github username
I think you just put false at the end of the command @void void
/rg flag -w [Yourworldname] global deny-spawn minecraft:villager false
Nope didnt work
hm
ancient bolt
What the fuck is that avatar devon
woven otter
Demon what ever you do don't look at the code
ancient bolt
Never intended to
ancient bolt
You must be new here
void void
new here yes but I've seen worse
wide chasm
I've seen worse once before.
void void
at least the packages aren't capitalized
woven otter
that commit is not that bad
grand slate
Devon is my babe don't chat shit about him
void void
always bothers me when someone does that
grand slate
Only i'm allowed to
woven otter
Ryder he kinda brought that to himself
void void
?
I sent that link knowing very well I would get that kind of reaction
is what he means
woven otter
sort of
void void
well I never said not to criticize him
I sent a commit that replaces a long one liner that looked ugly with properly formatted and well organized code using optionals
and the fact that it uses optionals makes everyone here go crazy lol
woven otter
heh irony
unreal quarry
aka, you made it worse
wide chasm
Optionals aren't that bad. I just prefer NotNull/Nullable annotations.
grand slate
Aka you ruined the already ruined
@wide chasm loll u didn't see his use of Optionals
worn ember
I prefer throwing an NPE and exit my application
grand slate
Optionals, everywhere
quasi valley
I prefer not running any code
dusk drift
worn ember
Lol
lusty arch
grand slate
His face looks photoshopped
void void
only for minigames and scoreboards, to see if a minigame is present and if not they are in hub or see if a scoreboard is present if not don't try to display one
unreal quarry
devon reminds me of the mentality at mojang. they keep making these changes in the name of "better looking code" but they fail to realize they're ruining the game's performance with each update
worn ember
Lol
void void
Mojang is ticking me off slowly and slowly
quasi valley
haters would say it's photoshopped
grand slate
Mhm yea, it's embarassing when a version from almost 5 years ago is faster
void void
People want a cave update, instead they make bees
worn ember
Inb4 they hire him
void void
People want optimization, they make bees
wide chasm
No offense, but...
grand slate
Already sent that one stef
Old news, i'm looking at his Player listener
It's great
limber knotBOT
quality software
ask 100 programmers how to do something and you'll get 100 answers, and all of the programmers will say the other 99 ways are shit
void void
very true
wide chasm
I've seen worse. I've seen someone implement Player. Yes, Bukkit's Player.
worn ember
Stfu egg your code is shit :3
dusk drift
void void
its not an argument
limber knotBOT
;)
void void
its literally what they are doing
void void
and they can keep doing it, not my problem 🤷
austere ivy
limber knotBOT
thats the opicrap dude, right?
austere ivy
Yeah.
worn ember
I mean at some point it'll stop running on their own machines right?
quasi valley
who cares, they will never ever make an update solely for performance, that's just not how you propose updates to such a popular game
content first
worn ember
They have realms
austere ivy
Like some things like Mojang started making 200mb of objects every tick then throwing them away.
void void
this is taking forever on cellular data in a camp site... all I wanted to do was add the plotsquared api as a dependency.. and I have been sitting here waiting for 20 minutes now for it to resolve
austere ivy
And that's technically "good code practice" since you shouldn't reuse objects or something like that.
limber knotBOT
the issues in that post have been addressed brian
austere ivy
You should let the garbage collector handle that, but it does it worse.
wide chasm
You shouldn't reuse objects?
unreal quarry
pretty sure everyone, even end users, are at the point now they want a performance update from mojang instead of a new feature
void void
you know can't play the content if the game is unplayable
austere ivy
That's just what I remember.
wide chasm
Why would that be, exactly?
grand slate
Literally nobody cares about huge ass bees
austere ivy
Billy I'm an end user I just want a performance update.
grand slate
We want performance
austere ivy
IIRC it's because the garbage collector is slower than simply reusing the objects.
woven otter
egg pls as if that's applicable in this case
limber knotBOT
it's applicable in every case
minor otter
Anyone know how to run the Optifine.jar file using the CMD?
worn ember
I want fwee dedocawted wam
grand slate
I mean fuck performance, ray tracing
limber knotBOT
fastest way to learn is to submit code to a bunch of programmers and get destroyed, but take advice with a grain of salt
vestal jasper
I mean at some point it'll stop running on their own machines right?
implying mojang even attempts launching the game or the server before they push shit
void void
welp
austere ivy
Instead of using parameters x y z, etc, they're using an immutable BlockPos, that kinda stuff.
wide chasm
I think I'm misunderstanding Brian, I thought you said you shouldn't reuse objects?
minor otter
there is something wrong with the java on my brothers pc, and he needs to use the cmd function.
austere ivy
You SHOULD reuse objects.
limber knotBOT
block positions are pooled now
worn ember
Except be doesn't take advise
wide chasm
Oh, okay, that makes sense.
limber knotBOT
(in some places)
austere ivy
But you "officially" shouldn't because you "should" let the garbage collector do it's work.
I'm much less qualified to talk about this than sp614x is.
vestal jasper
and get destroyed
The best way to improve is through people who are better than you at whatever you want to improve at.
grand slate
Heh it's funny, i've never contributed to a repo
limber knotBOT
@TheBrian, that post is extremly outdated
there are mutable block positions
there are pooled block positions
woven otter
yeah sure but there's a reason for that. He is claiming that he knows what he's doing and that it's right but is proven wrong nearly every time. Maybe now it's better but idk.
worn ember
And there's bees
golden gust
The major concern around BlockPos is the number of them that they allocate in a tick
austere ivy
The point I'm trying to make isn't that these are problems, it's that Mojang's been throwing performance out of the window since 1.8
Well since 1.3 if you want to go back to that.
worn ember
Well nothing new there
wide chasm
Any estimate on how many block positions they (were) allocating per tick?
austere ivy
Vec3D vs Vector?
static badge
and don't forget streams
golden gust
Honestly need to try to do some allocation profiling
grand slate
Billy, random question, what is your pfp?
golden gust
Don't think I've toyed with that before 😄
static badge
I'd do that if I knew how
void void
and they don't plan it carefully, they'd rather keep adding more fuel to the dumpster fire that is Minecraft
and driving the performance into the ground
wide chasm
Also, bee AI, four nested for loops!
static badge
I'd love to nuke me some streams 
austere ivy
Billy's profile picture is billy.
limber knotBOT
you are all talking about this as if the game was unplayabl e
woven otter
replacing streams sounds like an easy contribution to make
austere ivy
That's more nesting than I have in my code :peepoJuice:
limber knotBOT
leaf is the stream-nuker
wide chasm
The bee AI for finding nearby flowers uses four nested for loops.
golden gust
4?
woven otter
4 loops for 4 dimensions
limber knotBOT
I smell an optimization for PAper, then
austere ivy
nice
wide chasm
Yes, there's some random loop in there.
austere ivy
seems like Mojang is experimenting with time travelling
void void
regardless of the performance, Bees are the most useless thing compared to people wanting newer caves or a new nether that's you know both have been the same for idk how long? years
worn ember
HERES JONNY @grand slate
static badge
it's x, y, z, some logic for the coords likely
austere ivy
x, y, z, and the time dimension.
unreal quarry
my avatar is the train man from the matrix trilogy. he has the best quote ever that I can relate to. "You don't get it. I built this place. Down here, I make the rules. Down here, I make the threats. Down here... I'm God."
@grand slate ^
grand slate
Ok i like ur pfp a lot more now
quasi valley
but then again, the people working on bees probably arent even the people working on performance/other stuff
austere ivy
Billy what's your favorite matrix movie
woven otter
sounds nice
grand slate
Idk how i've never watched any of the matrix films
worn ember
they old
golden gust
b...b...but...
worn ember
old
golden gust
How do development teams work?
dusk drift
imagine not having a QA team for one of the biggest games in history 
golden gust
I mean, the flattening literally sat in a branch for years
unreal quarry
we're the QA team, hexed
quasi valley
the chunk rendering errors on 1.14.0 were quite fun
grand slate
Mojang: nested for loops, take it or leave it.
wide chasm
Don't need a QA team if you have players taps head
quasi valley
literally just having them by flying around
golden gust
QA is hard for large scale games, tbh
dusk drift
yea but when you release 1.14 and half the chunks don't load
I don't think it takes longer than 15 mins to figure that out
austere ivy
golden gust
Can't say I had that issue with 1.14, tbh
worn ember
lets all agree roblox is a better game
limber knotBOT
unit tests!
golden gust
I had an issue with it in the snapshot, but it was fine in release
grand slate
I'd rather they took longer to release an update, if it was performamt
austere ivy
https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/614298964467908638 This about sums up my feelings about the bees. Sure, I mean they're not bad. HOWEVER the thing is, is that if they have the ability to code an entirely new mob, they can for SURE just add maybe a few more items which players WANT.
wide chasm
Oh, I constantly had problems with it on release.
limber knotBOT
here's hoping Hytale makes it?
austere ivy
Or just don't make bees and fix the g*sh d*rn performance.
quasi valley
the prerelease just before that was actually fine, but flying around 10 seconds would give you the chunk rendering issues
austere ivy
I'd be fine with no updates for 2 years if they completely fixed the performance issues.
limber knotBOT
still pings me
quasi valley
like once again, people working on bees probably != people working on performance atm
austere ivy
(and gave me relative player selectors)
grand slate
Ah good
quasi valley
its almost like they have more than 2 devs
wide chasm
Are there even people working on performance?
grand slate
no
quasi valley
who knows, they said so
grand slate
What's performance?
dusk drift
the community
limber knotBOT
thankfully it looks like you'll be able to re-texture the thing
I don't mind the look
worn ember
bees are big gae
grand slate
The scripting sounds good & bad at the same time
worn ember
they stick their rod in you and then die
wide chasm
Just like actual bees!
grand slate
The trailer looked like minecraft & WOW mixed tbh
worn ember
yes
quasi valley
and had that little cubeworldy touch
void void
I mean it was inspired by Minecraft so ofc its going to look like Minecraft
quasi valley
speaking of which, its creator is still posting screenshots of the game once every few months
worn ember
lets all play cardboard instead
austere ivy
S t a b l e
wide chasm
WaI
dusk drift
Literally takes 10 seconds to found this issue
worn ember
i rembmer having that issue too lol
upper flicker
I never had that issue either
austere ivy
Who doesn't?
dusk drift
Theyy dont have one
upper flicker
their testing is "does it work on my machine"
not "does it work on all these machines"
worn ember
their testing is: does it compile?
quasi valley
probably like: let's punch a tree and see if it breaks
wide chasm
"Looks good"
pushes to master
viral mason
quasi valley
some != all, so we're good
wide chasm
If you skip the unit test, it doesn't fail.
quasi valley
and sadly even a successful one
upper flicker
worked out for bethesda
worn ember
go play another game if you hate it so much
limber knotBOT
you don't just simple setup a QA team
dusk drift
I dont play minecraft
limber knotBOT
stuff just doesn't work like that
worn ember
then wtf you doing here 🤔
dusk drift
I work with/on it
grand slate
I don't play
cosmic raft
god damn it
dusk drift
I litterally haven't played it for 3 years
limber knotBOT
just wait till you get real life experience of working in a software company, lol
worn ember
then go develop for roblox
worn ember
LOL
wide chasm
I listen for raw incoming packets \s
grand slate
No lol i ,'play' but i don't play for fun
@wide chasm out here using \s because he's on windows
worn ember
@quasi valley imagine being that hypocrite xD
wide chasm
I just hit the wrong key, don't hurt me.
But, yes, Windows. I'll make it even better. Windows 7.
quasi valley
only vista could have made it better
grand slate
Hey i'm on win 7
golden gust
imagine a world without CI 😄
wide chasm
CI is nice, but only if you really have other people contributing imo.
quasi valley
just push the jars into the repo, easy. not releases - push them
grand slate
Who needs a vcs lmao, just keep copies of the files...
golden gust
Was a bit of a jab at the "ask other people to test them?" comment 😛
limber knotBOT
cause I cant be arsed to run my test suite locally and wait like 5 minutes, lol
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) DECISION MAKER - length 2m 13s - 15 likes, 0 dislikes (100.0%) - 988 views - Various Artists - Topic on 2019.08.20
worn ember
use onedrive for backups
wide chasm
Does your CI run faster than local? Cause that isn't the case for me, Mini.
grand slate
Google drive
limber knotBOT
not sure if its faster, but its "async"
limber knotBOT
it doesn't occupy my machine
upper flicker
travis really doesnt do speed
they do "we're giving you this for free, take it or leave it"
worn ember
Appveyor does it in 20 seconds lol
upper flicker
no idea if the paid plans are faster
wide chasm
Travis has paid plans?
limber knotBOT
would imagine so?
upper flicker
appveyor is probably well behind in raw instances compared to travis though
limber knotBOT
wonder how Travis makes money actually
worn ember
well at least it doesnt need to redownload the entire environment every time you run a test
upper flicker
wouldnt be all that unrealistic for travis to be expanding just their paid offerings and leaving all the free stuff on one pool to share
wide chasm
inb4 it's non-profit and relies on donations
upper flicker
it doesnt
worn ember
maybe not for java
upper flicker
it caches fine here
golden gust
Pretty sure that we're lovely with travis and our stuff runs directly on a google compute instance or something
upper flicker
yeah and if it ever hits travis scale theyll have to make the same decisions
then you can move to xyz new lesser used host
worn ember
lets hope all the cucks keep using travis then
quasi valley
oh wow jenkins 2.190 Add support of emojis and other non-UTF-8 characters in job names. 🎉 
limber knotBOT
lol
grand slate
but.. why
limber knotBOT
the most useful feature, of course
woven otter
21st century
worn ember
👏
grand slate
they're doing a mojang
limber knotBOT
fuck it, why not
upper flicker
need to upgrade to full utf8 support throughout the language
I want a function named 🌮
worn ember
except mojang doesnt support emoji's
woven otter
it's 2019
wide chasm
Well, the other non-UTF-8 characters are nice, I guess?
worn ember
i want emoji support in minecraft
wide chasm
Did you mean: bees?
grand slate
@worn ember chat control /s
wide chasm
We have emoji heads, you can place them.
limber knotBOT
Unicode support is definitely something everyone should be doing these days
quasi valley
they havent even announced their actual theme yet tho, lol
thats coming in like a month
quasi valley
reposting memes, smh
worn ember
🤔
upper flicker
literally reddit in here
wide chasm
I took the bee. I already have a new branch for my plugin with changes related to 19w34a.
limber knotBOT
I mean, just because they're adding bees doesn't mean they're not doing other things
quasi valley
^
limber knotBOT
doubt 1.15 is "we added bees, enjoy" and nothing else
cosmic pivot
worn ember
probably adding whales next
limber knotBOT
you never know, I guess, but yeah
worn ember
bee whale update
limber knotBOT
feel bad for the amount of backlash they're getting
they deserve some of it
but ouch
quasi valley
inb4 beowulf in minecraft
worn ember
what?
upper flicker
you ask them to take a major refactor tree and push it out to major release way early
act surprised when its broken as fuck
wide chasm
Wouldn't change anything I guess /s
worn ember
upper flicker
supposedly someone put their foot down and told MS that wasnt acceptable and its not going to happen again
butttt MS owns the company sooooo
woven otter
M$
worn ember
its always the higher ups their fault
quasi valley
you mean as in some sort of veto on release dates? heard that quite a lot somewhere somewhen somehow
wide chasm
GitHub seems to be doing just fine even though it was purchased by Microsoft and I care more about that than Minecraft tbh.
Let's hope Microsoft doesn't mess up on Minecraft again.
upper flicker
🤞
limber knotBOT
need to figure out Unicode support in this thing
woven otter
M$ is looking better after introduction of WSL
golden gust
WSL is literally a case of them admitting that their platform sucks
woven otter
yeah
upper flicker
because now I have these two entirely separate environments that arent well integrated and I just wish the whole thing was WSL all the time
grand slate
i think Linus won, he quoted something similar to "if microsoft ever support Linux, I win"
golden gust
WSL2 is also a complete hackjob to the fact that their OS is slow af
worn ember
it makes for some good memes tho
upper flicker
they still havent sorted out the compat layer between the WSL2 vm filesystem and the windows filesystem
grand slate
microsoft are just terrible at making operating systems (whilst i sit here on Windows)
upper flicker
leaving the vm filesystem and accessing the windows filesystem is slower in WSL2 than WSL1
like an order of magnitude slower
which really just further isolates the environments
that being said, at least the VM filesystem is super fast, because its a linux VM
woven otter
aren't you on linux anyways
upper flicker
yes
I still do most of my full time job on windows
so its not like I dont have a reason to hope they clean this mess up
golden gust
Z is what microsoft is tryna avoid
limber knotBOT
my main PC is Win 10 for games
my laptop is Zorin though
I like my Debian
and Ubuntu
grand slate
question: any valid reasons for me to not switch to using a linux distro full time? except for gaming, which i've seen some intersting platforms emerging
limber knotBOT
Z uses Arch, but I think he's just crazy :P
golden gust
Their hope is that by offering a linux environment they can try to hang on to all the devs who deal with docker and stuff daily and want a local test machine
upper flicker
its not crazy to run arch
woven otter
if it weren't for disk space I would be on some linux distro already 
limber knotBOT
LOL
limber knotBOT
went with Cent/RHEL?
grand slate
considering partitioning and dual booting tbh
golden gust
and then I figured I had better commonsense
woven otter
@grand slate do it tbh
upper flicker
I was going to but centos was very outdated when I was making the witch and wasnt going to wait for rhel8/centos complimentary
everything is on ubuntu 18.04 atm
grand slate
ik, i really want to, mainly because I feel like I would get shit done so much quicker
upper flicker
which is fine now that its got super long support windows anyway
golden gust
Partition your drive and see how it goes
limber knotBOT
yep!
woven otter
it's a pretty nice experience
cosmic raft
ok holy crap
limber knotBOT
LTS is super LTS now
golden gust
That's pretty much how I started, tbh
cosmic raft
these new headphones are great
limber knotBOT
what u got?
upper flicker
I did it long ago for android dev
grand slate
yup, now for that decision where i get hundreds of opinions, what distro
upper flicker
back before the android emulators had x86 images and you had to do arm emulation
golden gust
I installed linux on a partition, and well; it booted faster and did all I needed, and so I just kinda found myself running *nix as a main
upper flicker
it was super bad on winders
limber knotBOT
MiniDigger: old: https://www.anker.com/products/variant/soundbuds-slim-plus/A3401111
ah
ye I tried those
but they didn't quite did it for me
granted, I don't have any feeling for money and way too much money at my hand
so I got the sonys mx3 or whatever they are called
feel free to give me your spare money then
:P
the WH-1000XM3?
see, I am strange
ah
^ mine ;)
I am extremly cheap, I don't buy stuff often
but when I do, I go all out
but like
grand slate
i'll pick later, most likely debian or ubuntu though. leaning to debian
limber knotBOT
well, mine aren't disconnectable
grand slate
right now i'm trying not to die from heat
vestal jasper
limber knotBOT
best way to learn a Linux distro is to use it. Much like everything
make a Plex server or something
do a useful
grand slate
I know enough about it to get by, I more want to pick a distro i'll stick with
limber knotBOT
or if you like books, Calibre and Calibre-Web
going from 6mm drivers in my earbuds to these
is like
amazing
ye ^^
I went from already good 150 euro beyerdynamics to the sonys
but it was still an amazing difference
even with anc off
spring wedge
Wait why are you all talking in webhooks lol
limber knotBOT
because irc is love
spring wedge
Oh! IRC bridge nice
grand slate
i'm gonna try irc for fun
limber knotBOT
not all of us
I'm trying out IRC again after some years
forcing myself to use it
limber knotBOT
Uptime: 24 days, 3 hours, 17 minutes, 44 seconds
Message Handling: 2ms / 1ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 5269 (6%)
Messages from Discord: 90175 (94%)
woven otter
egg that's your fault
limber knotBOT
:D
upper flicker
tbh with a modern client you get a lot of nice features
if discord hadnt taken off I wouldnt have really had a problem sticking with irc
upper flicker
pastes css selector to hide their stupid logo from the side nav
limber knotBOT
not using my theme
spring wedge
upper flicker
yeah no I dont use your theme
limber knotBOT
sooo what's thelounge?
.g mininapse thelounge
(MiniDigger) https://www.npmjs.com/package/thelounge-theme-mininapse -- thelounge-theme-mininapse - npm: "Jul 22, 2019 ... A dark, minimal theme for thelounge. ... thelounge-theme-mininapse. 2.0.16 • Public • Published 18 ... install. npm i..."
meh
ay from irc
no reason for me to
Dis got me on Quassel
I have scrollback on all my devices, its awsome
like, I used irc on a fridge before and I had all my stuff right there 😂
2019 everybody
on a f r i d g e
@austere ivy better, fix the light mode thing, maybe a dynamic floating button
fuck it
fuck it, irc on a fridge
if it can run Doom, it can sure run IRC
IRC on a fridge, yeah
I used irc on a washer, does that count as hipster?
yes
I used IRC on my avacado toast this morning
🤷
That doesn’t work
mmh?
digger, your web server is slow as balls
limber knotBOT
is.... is that in a car? @ Mini
thats a tesla model 3, yes
2019 is so good & so bad
IRC on a tesla, what could possibly go wrong
pretty sure they only let you use that kind of stuff when parked
what's a "distraced driving"?
spring wedge
Distracted?
limber knotBOT
lol oops took my eye off the road, the irc was l i t
one of those
also, image still loading
pretty sure it's not my Gbit
stop ddosing my server
MiniDigger: your web server reminds me of dialup
lol
it really does
upper flicker
well its a 15mb picture
limber knotBOT
reee
upper flicker
its the first problem
limber knotBOT
if you make enough to afford a tesla, why are you running your web server off a potato like imgur?
I should be able to load it in under a second :P
upper flicker
its also super slow to ramp up
limber knotBOT
lol I wish that was my picture
upper flicker
starts off at like 300 kbps
limber knotBOT
Irc in a car is great
austere ivy
Why isn't it working?
limber knotBOT
it doesn't love you
vestal jasper
ok
limber knotBOT
Dunno I’m out drinking
fervent quartz
pp smol
vestal jasper
p p.small
limber knotBOT
downscaled imgur version for u nubs
oh, look, instant :P
it loaded for me :?
just very slow
it's digger's site
Mini's server just likes me
Instantly for me, other one wouldn’t load
he bought a web server in South Africa
you aren't worthy sorry
s/web server/potato/
Correction, <egg82> he bought a potato in South Africa
woven otter
wow why is everyone on irc now
limber knotBOT
the imgure one is 1% in size 😂
lol
and no, the images aren't served from a webserver
that was uploaded via thelounge and served by node
irc no.1
the question is, why aren't you in IRC?
I'm in IRC because I'm forcing myself to try it for a while :P
i'm in it becaus Duck called me oldfashioned and told me to go back to IRC
hey, if you use irc, you need to use irc formatting!
idk irc formatting i big noob EKSD
i'll go learn it real quick, 2 secs
woven otter
hmm making an irc client sounds like a nice side project
limber knotBOT
irc got colors!
did that go thru?
its not anywhere near as convenient to use
.rainbow colors!
(MiniDigger) colors!
discord does not support colors
no it doesnt
since its inverior
and underlines
woven otter
.rainbow colors!
limber knotBOT
Oh hey that's cool.
I use discord as little as possible because because:
Logs all IP addresses, device uuid, email address, all texts, all images, all voip data, open rates for emails they send, and logs all programs opened on the system, also has been forcing users to submit their phone numbers too
and for me, irc formatting is easy to use since I got a nice client ;)
woven otter
!stats
limber knotBOT
Uptime: 24 days, 3 hours, 30 minutes, 23 seconds
Message Handling: 3ms / 1ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 5361 (6%)
Messages from Discord: 90241 (94%)
.rainbow This is a rainbow. Rainbows are very cool. Yup.
ok teach me how to use IRC formatting
(TehBrian) This is a rainbow. Rainbows are very cool. Yup.
I never really use underlines anyway
shrug
woven otter
.rainbow DOUBLE RAINBOW
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) DOUBLE RAINBOW
upper flicker
if your irc client supports strikethrough, this wont be ugly
limber knotBOT
One thing I do like about IRC is that s/ is more of a correction thing where you can use it as a joke, whereas in Discord it just edits YOUR previous message.
Like see here, some random person says:
I just hit control b and stuff becomes bold
Bees are the best thing! Then I can come in and comedically do:
s/best/worst
Correction, <TehBrian> Bees are the worst thing! Then I can come in and comedically do:
it's ugly regardless :P
or control s for strikethrough
austere ivy
If Discord had that it'd be great.
limber knotBOT
🐝
woven otter
|| u ||
austere ivy
||Testinng juan toew thress.||
upper flicker
bot supports pretty much everything both do
except I never added irc spoilers back to discord
limber knotBOT
:D
upper flicker
because no one ever uses them and I forgot
woven otter
fix this
upper flicker
its just setting both foreground and background colors to the same color on irc
limber knotBOT
can I even use them? SPOILER?
austere ivy
Ah
upper flicker
a lot of clients dont really support it right
austere ivy
:P
limber knotBOT
Also rainbow
limber knotBOT
Since when does that have background colour in my irc
upper flicker
it edits your last message
austere ivy
Rainbow is the best thing. Discord needs color support. Although that'd probably be more taxing on storage. Unless they implement it correctly.
vestal jasper
I just found that out yeah
austere ivy
They'd probably just do formatting codes like § or whatever.
woven otter
huh
woven otter
u
limber knotBOT
(TehBrian) Look mum a rainbow!
austere ivy
Incredible.
vestal jasper
irc is for retards
woven otter
nice one vic 😄
vestal jasper
:)
limber knotBOT
s/nice/the best people on earth
I need to write a plugin for my client to inline bridge messages
vestal jasper
they'll be none the wiser
limber knotBOT
that would be so cool
Correction, <DiscordBot> <13🦆> the best people on earth one vic 😄
woven otter
irc users won't see that
austere ivy
LOL
vestal jasper
irc users are plebs
limber knotBOT
tbh the worst part of that is the theme colors
austere ivy
If I'm ever going to say something I don't want pulled up later, I always put a ., then I edit it to whatever I want, THEN I delete it.
As such:
Ninja moves! :D
limber knotBOT
inb4 Z edits the bot to move edits
bridge edits*
theres not really a good way to do that
Wouldn't that generally imply that you think before you speak?
you just have to re-send the message
and this thing is super spammy already
yeah
might make it an option but we probably wouldnt use it
woven otter
Z fix ur shit
limber knotBOT
no u
woven otter
u
limber knotBOT
probs would maybe wanna have some delta factor or something
limber knotBOT
Uptime: 24 days, 3 hours, 37 minutes, 27 seconds
Message Handling: 3ms / 1ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 5408 (6%)
Messages from Discord: 90285 (94%)
look Z750, custom version for you https://i.imgur.com/HY4loEV.png
OH GOD
thanks
wide chasm
❤
limber knotBOT
thats hot
dear lord
MiniDigger--
.karma MiniDigger
(electroniccat) That user has no karma :(
thats the cool thing about web clients, just change 4 irc vars and it looks all fancy
actually the most annoying part of using IRC right now is that Mana doesnt do anything to keep you from pinging yourself
so I keep getting noises from esper
woven otter
https://i.imgur.com/x3gMiKs.png
https://i.imgur.com/HY4loEV.png
No consistency F
limber knotBOT
Nothing like dinging yourself as you type \o/
lol
who needs esper anyways?
I don't even think I am on esper anymore
vestal jasper
o
limber knotBOT
also minecraft is on Esper
woven otter
but tbh
>irc in 2019
grand slate
irc is nice tbh
limber knotBOT
@Vicarious that image displayed thelounge with my mininapse theme (and a custom version just for z)
grand slate
i like the idea of an entire protocol for chat
limber knotBOT
it's like SSH except not
grand slate
alright i'll get it
woven otter
telnet
limber knotBOT
quassel is nice
woven otter
best client tbh
limber knotBOT
Textual masterrace
worn ember
china has joined the chat
limber knotBOT
Kinda sucks that it's macOS only, but looking at hexchat, pretty sure that's a blessing more than a curse
if you like OSX
woven otter
SQL joins has joined the chat
worn ember
man ive been writing sql queries all day
limber knotBOT
I needed something cross platform that sync'd across all of its instances
which left me with something like quassel
or thelounge
worn ember
i want to join my coffin
limber knotBOT
and thelounge one just because its easier on mobile
s/one/won
Correction, <Z750> and thelounge won just because its easier on mobile
woven otter
huh
limber knotBOT
nop
worn ember
well apparently typing s/wordtocorrect/correctword works on discord too
upper flicker
yeah it just doesnt work as well 
worn ember
wym? it just edits lol
upper flicker
not sure why they only let you edit the most recent message
worn ember
oh
worn ember
why is that even a thing
upper flicker
because you often get through a few messages before seeing a mistake in the 1st?
worn ember
🤔 not what i meant
woven otter
wait bots can edit messages now?
worn ember
i meant why is that a thing in general
upper flicker
IRC's is obviously more flexible because its not limited by the design on the entire chat platform
because everything is just a message
where as in discord it all has to blend with their edit system and the limitations of it
worn ember
but is it the bot the does it?
worn ember
mf stop confusing me
woven otter
wait dark you are confusing me
upper flicker
thats just the defacto standard that discord based it on
in IRC there's no reason you couldnt make your own bot to use your own syntax
thats just the one that caught on because of unix tools like sed
worn ember
still not making sense but whatever
limber knotBOT
Because your client just plays "smart" and edits the last message
worn ember
where the fuck does it come from
upper flicker
thats built into discord
they copied it from ol irc bots and just built it into their platform
worn ember
ok
upper flicker
your client is just sending an edit command to their API
its all done client side, it just parses the text and does the same as it would if you clicked edit
worn ember
seems pointless to me lol
limber knotBOT
its fast
upper flicker
just quicker than going and hitting the edit button
worn ember
yeah probably in fast moving chat
upper flicker
no pretty much always
worn ember
or you can just press the up arrow lmao
upper flicker
having to take your hands off the keyboard while you want to continue to type is universally bad
golden gust
and then you have to move the caret to the correct place
upper flicker
actually still better than even that because you dont need to leave the home rows
higher learning curve though
worn ember
what if you have the same word multiple times
upper flicker
gotta know the syntax
golden gust
That's where you just gotta play it smart
upper flicker
they try to teach it in school, It never stuck with me in school
I eventually learned it just by needing to type fast
or, something close to it anyway
limber knotBOT
indeed
golden gust
same
worn ember
i never even heard of any of this till now
upper flicker
mavis beacon motherfucker
worn ember
no
onyx venture
Do you know about some plugin fixing problem with UUIDs on offline mode servers?
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what memery is going on here todaty
upper flicker
leaf memes
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ur a meme
woven otter
irc meme
woven otter
!stats
limber knotBOT
Uptime: 24 days, 4 hours, 1 minutes, 38 seconds
Message Handling: 2ms / 2ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 5450 (6%)
Messages from Discord: 90385 (94%)
limber knotBOT
you one-eyed bastard
That's a hate crime
wat u gon do bout it
call ur mom
2bad I already did
woven otter
https://i.imgur.com/oSpsnwV.png
not even 6%
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Exact result: 1090/19167 - Decimal approximation: 0.056868576198674805655553816455365993634893306203370376167... - https://is.gd/6nR0OG
woven otter
ur trash
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.wa 5450 / (5450 + 90385) * 100
woven otter
pls
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Exact result: 109000/19167 - Decimal approximation: 5.686857619867480565555381645536599363489330620337037616737... - https://is.gd/5QZVHX
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6% looks fine
woven otter
it's lies
woven otter
Z?
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it's true
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SURE IT WASN'T
woven otter
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LET'S FIND OUT WHO IT WAS
upper flicker
git blame yourself
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.g papermc github
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://github.com/PaperMC -- PaperMC · GitHub: "PaperMC has 12 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub."
woven otter
paperstack
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wtf it's not there
u did fix it
yeah they didn't even add to 100 before 
u pushed it so ur fault
void void
any new guys that are not here 24/7?
woven otter
no
void void
@woven otter i never saw you
woven otter
wow
void void
you ever used chat control?