Obf is just an annoyance and delays the process
#general
vestal jasper
worn ember
Ur an annoyance
worn ember
Yes
vestal jasper
It'll also make it not worth using :^)
worn ember
Why does Minecraft even obfuscate smh
vestal jasper
If I can't audit it then why would I use it
peak kite
I suppose running it on bare os is best.
peak kite
But enough to keep your nefew from figuring it out and infecting their server.
woven otter
using obfuscation is like using forest to protect your house from intruders
peak kite
well if they are blind intruders... and run...
woven otter
reminds me of the prodigy song
unreal quarry
Remember, kids. Only you can prevent forest fires.
peak kite
most kids are blind and run.
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forest fires give me nam flashbacks
vestal jasper
It's also fun when plugins have built in licensing and hardcode in plaintext the desired return from wherever they're pinging
woven otter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQEBzauVIlA
this is the vid
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peak kite
woah .. it was eaten.
dapper nacelle
@woven otter wasn't reading chat, yes it is the particle thing
it is so satisfying to use
I was making combat arts using particles
limber knotBOT
dapper nacelle
wut, a plugin that automatically sets trees on fire
vestal jasper
leaves *
woven otter
it's modified paper I believe
woven otter
hmm sure
static badge
no u
void void
logic
peak kite
You all learned in coloring school that it has a smile face, and spiky rays, and rings of color. 🌞 or at least spikes
limber knotBOT
Hello everyone, in regards to the Waterfall plugin, is there any documentation for installation? I seem to be missing it. Or is it just a drag and drop kind of install?
peak kite
Give the corona sum luv, goog.
void void
waterfall is not a plugin 🤦
follow the same installation procedure as bungeecord
just use the waterfall jar and not the bungeecord jar
limber knotBOT
gotcha
So, I use the Tunkey MineOS when it comes to the server itself, is that suitable for waterfall?
worn ember
I don't think it cares as long as it runs Java
void void
^
and if you are going to ask, no it does not magically add support for other versions of minecraft, you need to use that in conjunction with viaversion of protocolsupport for version support
vestal jasper
.
fallen oracle
Please leave Devon.
peak kite
How about a plugin that loads custom clamav signatures on the server os.
https://www.clamav.net/documents/creating-signatures-for-clamav
limber knotBOT
ty guys/gals
vestal jasper
LOL
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tame and lame tbh
peak kite
well u could install an engine on that front frame...
vestal jasper
leaf ur lame
woven otter
@dapper nacelle thanks
dapper nacelle
np
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ad buys?
acoustic pilot
Yes, ads
austere ivy
programming in a nutshell
acoustic pilot
Those things you buy to influence opinion
static badge
china buys adds on twitter?
woven otter
leaf what's with your avatar again
static badge
ads
acoustic pilot
Of course
static badge
tf they advertising
acoustic pilot
How do you think they're trying to control the narrative on the Hong Kong protests?
In the west, at least
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china 
acoustic pilot
Twitter just said no, we're not letting state-controlled media buy ads anymore.
hot gorge
Good
peak kite
Geez, get it over with, force them all to be a publisher..
billion dollar inet co in record time, tax breaks no magazine ever got.
nothing to see here moooooove along moooo.
acoustic pilot
Twitter told Media Post, “this policy will apply to news media entities that are either financially or editorially controlled by the state” and will not apply to taxpayer-funded entities, independent public broadcasters included.
So publicly funded media is fine, which many western countries have.
As well as obviously, corporate media.
Probably hurts China and Russia the most.
Meanwhile, the Hong Kong protestors have raised $2 million and are getting ready to buy ads of their own.
floral marsh
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.g FTFY
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static badge
there's nothing wrong with my avatar
acoustic pilot
damn leaf so dum lol
woven otter
leaf pls
fallen oracle
What happens to your other avatar
peak kite
https://github.com/Cisco-Talos/CASC rtfm TO THE END.
woven otter
so iirc as leaf said MT is all about rules. so how is this for MT rules:
https://www.baeldung.com/java-thread-safety
static badge
literally all of programming is rules :>
woven otter
true
static badge
some of that is fine
I'd really recommend not looking into that until you know what the language rules are
acoustic pilot
rule #1: burn all leafs
static badge
considering the section about volatile is false
With the volatile keyword, we instruct the JVM and the compiler to store the counter variable in main memory. <- wrong
woven otter
where should I start then
wooden blade
What if I’m anti grammar and prefer word jumbles and word salad?
static badge
I think jls chapter 17 is one place
void void
how to explain volatile leaf
woven otter
oh well jls is nice too
static badge
well here's the quick about volatile
volatile has two components: order and visibility
reads and writes cannot be re-ordered across volatile accesses is the order part
for visibility there's this "set" of all volatile accesses
for the entire program
and when it's executed it gets placed at the end of the set and synchronizes with all of the volatile accesses before it
it being the volatile access
sorta a retarded explanation
a better one might be volatile accesses are all executed synchronously for all threads
void void
i just think of it as working how you'd think it would work if it didnt do all sorts of fancy optimizations
wooden blade
Does this link offer a better explanation than the earlier one? http://tutorials.jenkov.com/java-concurrency/volatile.html
void void
like reordering, caching, assuming various things
static badge
well it starts wrongly
in fact a volatile read on x86 is not different from a plain read
but this comes down to how the volatile write is implemented
and it basically: fucks all other core's cache lines containing the variable
so it "pushes" it to other cores by making them cache miss
but that's irrelevant for the language anyways
wooden blade
The key point I took away was that there’s no guarantee when a non-volatile variable accessed by multiple threads is updated.
wooden blade
Conceptually a volatile variable is updated in a predictable or defined way?
static badge
technically yes but that doesn't define it
wooden blade
I meant the process - timing and order is defined; not the variable itself
static badge
timing isn't technically defined ever
unless you're talking about the time before its visible to other reads
in which case yeah it's 0
wooden blade
So how are updates to a volatile variable coordinated to threads?
feral mica
quick question, are there any plugins that actually do a good job reducing lag for a small server of 5-10 people?
concurrent
static badge
like I said for x86
idk how arm or other works
in reality you don't need to know how it works on architectures, you just need to know the behavior the language defines
in general they're basically the same across languages
on x86 there's also the "all reads are acquire and all writes are release"
void void
intellij updated and things look slightly different :(
woven otter
I guess if you read 10 pages a day of jls you could become better at java in about 80 days or so
cerulean thicket
can i set restart-script to a powershell script file .ps1? 
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including acquire/release/opaque from j9
in general the reason I even bother bringing up what an order of global volatile accesses is is because it'
s easier to prove some code is incorrect or correct using it
mathematically at least
woven otter
that's interesting
static badge
i.e the first volatile example
Thread 1 | Thread 2
X.setM(this, 1); | Y.setM(this, 1);
int ry = Y.getM(this); | int rx = X.getM(this);
with setM and getM being volatile
if you write out the possible orders it's only possible that one or both see their r val as 1
austere ivy
no
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oh
woven otter
leaf have you read the entire jls of any version
static badge
no
woven otter
have you tried
woven otter
when do you actually need something from it
static badge
occasionally now and then]
midnight junco
😗
woven otter
how did you get to the point of understanding multi-threading and what not
static badge
1-2 years
woven otter
I didn't meant time but rather journey 
woven otter
F.
where to start then
static badge
http://gee.cs.oswego.edu/dl/html/j9mm.html the best place for the rules
the jls on threading is basically the most overcomplicated way of going over those rules but it has extra stuff that's relevant
it also has really fucking retarded shit that's just 
"every default field write actually occurs at the start of the program"
"even before the objects are constructed"
.g jls8
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woven otter
lel
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.g java language specification 8
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woven otter
static badge
Although it may seem a little strange to write a default value to a variable before the object containing the variable is allocated, conceptually every object is created at the start of the program with its default initialized values.
wat about that
woven otter
hmmm 🤔
This guide is mainly intended for expert programmers familiar with Java concurrency, but unfamiliar with the memory order modes available in JDK 9 provided by VarHandles. Mostly, it focuses on how to think about modes when developing parallel software. Feel free to first read the Summary.
winter hinge
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woven otter
So it's not really for someone who doesn't know much or anything about concurrency is it? 🤔
whole laurel
peak kite
So i dont get it, not from concentrate is from a concentrate.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_oil
First thing in the morn, you pour tall glass of lies.
fervent shell
cosmic raft
peak kite
dont let the get buried, put it in #gifs-and-memes
void void
the new star wars looks pretty cool
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snow mexican
acoustic pilot
lol
acoustic basin
hM
void void
Im rarted, I thought velocity supported PE lol
rip
no but Waterdog does
supports the PE protocol but doesn't add PE support by itself
intended to use PSPE for java and PE support or nukkit for just PE support
Yea am running nukkit, having stupid issues atm but
¯_(ツ)_/¯
void void
I've literally never heard of that
void void
PaperNukkit lol
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fallen oracle
.g PaperNukkit
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willow maple
fallen oracle
Lol
I wish I knew what it was like to pass a class.
I need a movie to watch tonight, suggestions?
@cosmic raft I'm watching good ol car crash videos
cosmic raft
@fallen oracle \o/
fallen oracle
Some of these are cool
peak kite
These citizen2 sentinels are pretty handy... Since its a bot.. and invincible, Data seemed proper. Hes carrying a lantern and im running seus shader, so its washed out.
vestal jasper
.flags
limber knotBOT
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peak kite
Ok, ok the smoke from campfires is a nice addition, now my stack has smoke.
cosmic raft
peak kite
Just ignore the hole in the skyscraper back there...
spring wedge
Hi Paper friends 
mental cove
void void
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void void
which gun mod is that?
tulip junco
cunning badge
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proper cosmos
nocturne basalt
woven otter
heh always fun to read some history. Always fun to see wiz calling someone retarded
Good times
cyan crest
pulsar wigeon
duck ur retarded
woven otter
ur
worn ember
hmm so i have this song on my phone, i got no idea where it comes from, its called Insomia 2.0 but that one is from aviici and shazam isnt being useful either 🤔
but i really like it lol
golden gust
be a shame if you broke it
worn ember
broke what, my phone?
jaunty oriole
What behaviour is expected:
No tps losses
worn ember
@peak kite bruh im not retarded, i know the insomnia song, but its a remix with Piece of your heart by Meduza, but its a remix and cant find it anywhere 🤔
and i got no clue where it comes from since i havent heard it ever before
peak kite
oh sorry, but it was worth posting
worn ember
and idk how it got on my phone :p
woven otter
there are many remixes though
worn ember
yeah thats the issue
woven otter
listen to them all
worn ember
its named "Insomnia 2.0" which would refer to the one avicii remixed but its not that one either
so my quest begins
its not in my music list either on my desktop (which is where all my music on my phone comes from)
so i really have no clue
it obviously cant be old since Peace of your Mind isnt that hold
woven otter
try to get help from reddit
worn ember
lmao
woven otter
not even kidding there are subreddits dedicated to finding things
worn ember
hmm maybe
worn ember
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worn ember
found it
golden gust
watches as the bar starts to scrape the floor
golden gust
am tryna say that we've come to a whole new low when the duck starts saying smart things
worn ember
i'd rather kill myself than use reddit tho
worn ember
you fucks will be my dinner
woven otter
u have a smelly breath
woven otter
ur an issue yes
worn ember
stupid aux cables lmao
void void
is sharp V sword vanilla?
woven otter
yes
void void
i cant combine a sharp4 unb3 with sharp4 unb1
worn ember
its modded roblox
woven otter
prior work penalty might be the issue then
limber knotBOT
@Bloodmasked go in creative mod and it should work (might require OP, not sure)
*mode
void void
yea but how do i do it for survival
limber knotBOT
you can only do it if it's not too expensive
void void
should i be enchanting level 30 items, level 30 books or low level books?
i never heard of this stuff
wide chasm
Level 30, cause the work penalty is 0 when you enchant an item and with level 30, you get higher enchantment levels.
void void
ok
golden gust
sometimes
I'm really glad that I don't play the game so I do't have to understand all this mess
worn ember
they really had to fuck enchanting didnt they 😉
void void
yea its weird asf
limber knotBOT
it's pretty neat tbh
woven otter
well if anything it has improved
wide chasm
The enchanting mechancis haven't changed that much lately? The last change was "you now need lapis lazuli and it only costs you three levels isntead of thirty" afaik.
limber knotBOT
it now rewards people who don't die
worn ember
lol wtf this radio ad "yo dad should i get a laptop with a hex core processor" 🤔
limber knotBOT
but unpopular opinion: the original enchantment system was the best: 50 level required and you didn't know what enchantments you got, also not way to disenchant or combine
worn ember
rip battery life
woven otter
oh I remember those times
void void
i dont remember 50 level enchants
limber knotBOT
I made big buck with my exp farms back then =D
void void
i was probably so noob back then i never used enchanting
woven otter
was it 1.2.5
wide chasm
Enchanting was introduced in Beta 1.9
void void
we are playing minecraft 2
celest coyote
beta 1.9 was never released
wide chasm
Yes, especially before Alpha. Indev, Infdev, etc.
wide chasm
Official Release would be number 7 in their named versioning scheme yes.
void void
full gold skeleton riding invisible spider
worn ember
sounds like my mom
woven otter
quasi valley
crazy to think about it, that there are so little games still getting major updates after soo many years
even if the updates are only fine-ish when looking at stuff other than features 👀
limber knotBOT
Minecraft is the most sold game so it makes sense, lol
worn ember
dota 2 is still getting montly updates
its from 2013 tho
LoL too i guess which is from 2009
limber knotBOT
I mean that's f2p for you xD
void void
limber knotBOT
they kinda have to update
void void
thats a spicy lvl 30 sword
worn ember
well yeah i guess
limber knotBOT
btw. NetHack is stillg etting updated and that was release 1987 xD
void void
knockback is a bit iffy though
limber knotBOT
and Starcraft also gets updates still
wide chasm
I'm just happy that the versioning scheme for Minecraft JE makes sense. Like, I'm pretty sure the ones for the NN3DS and EE are just randomly generated numbers.
ancient bolt
i love windows versioning
worn ember
I love windows
ancient bolt
limber knotBOT
tbh windows versioning makes sense internally, just the PR versions are just names
ancient bolt
icing on the cake https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1163309859288354816
limber knotBOT
that's the "ver" command, not the "version" command though? 
ancient bolt
the straws have been grasped at
ancient bolt
no
Windows 10 is the product
not the version
just like before macOS it was Mac OS X
X meaning 10
worn ember
yeah cuz using numbers is below apple 🙂
wide chasm
Roman numerals are numbers, just in a different format.
void void
wide chasm
I'll version my stuff based on the temperature in Antarctica in Kelvin at the time of release. If global warning keeps up, the versions will be going upwards on every new release.
worn ember
what if it goes down? are you backporting?
wide chasm
No, then that'll just be the new version name, versions don't have to go upwards, that's only preffered for people's sanity.
worn ember
what about duplicate versions 🤔
wide chasm
Hope they don't occur and if they do, it overrides the first one.
worn ember
noice
golden gust
So
What you're tryna say is that we'll be on version Who.cares.the.world.is.on.fire in a few years
slow hull
Version 404.69
wide chasm
If the world is on fire that'd be version 500 or something above.
golden gust
1.OUT OF RANGE.40
ancient bolt
apple does that all the time
just put "new" in front of it
suddenly they are different
"New version 2"
limber knotBOT
you mean like the Nintendo New 3DS?
celest coyote
the new switch is coming out
limber knotBOT
yeah, one that you can't run android on anymore ;_;
afaik it'll just be an internal version increase, doubt they give it a new name if it looks exactly the same
wide chasm
The one with the improved battery life should already be in stores, that's just a silent revision currently.
limber knotBOT
also the fact that you can't use the Switch Lite with a TV is just stupid
no, the new version releases in september iirc
celest coyote
remember the retarded 2ds
wide chasm
US already has it, only Europe needs to get it afaik.
celest coyote
its the 3ds but with all the good features gutted
limber knotBOT
also I wonder if Nintendo is going to kill the DS family now that the Switch Lite is a thing
wide chasm
I still have a working DS Lite.
celest coyote
i wish they would port all the great ds games
finally got a fire emblem game on switch now
limber knotBOT
I use a DS Lite too xD
golden gust
I used to have one of those lovely homebrew cards too 😄
limber knotBOT
I use mine as an MP3 player xD
wide chasm
You don't think I actually bought games for the DS, I just downloaded them all. Well my father did, cause I was 6 back then or something.
limber knotBOT
oh, apparently the HAC-001-01 is really avaiable already (at least on amazon)
wide chasm
Yes, America and Japan already have it afaik.
limber knotBOT
I wonder if the prices for the original one will drop on ebay, would be pretty neat xD
would be a pretty cool form-factor to use for steam/nvidia game streaming
limber knotBOT
Asynchronous chunk loading wow-wow!
tardy lynx
Still worse than 1.13
heady spear
>.... [12:28:54 WARN]: handleDisconnection() called twice is this normal? :/
we get it all the time and I don't like itttt
worn ember
its been around for a while
not sure if it has been fixed in the meantime and reoccuring
but i've definitely had it too before
its harmless but annoying
heady spear
I've also had loads of issues where players don't disconnect properly and then manage to connect a second time, but it doesn't disconnect the first player properly and boom their data is gone
those I don't like very much
worn ember
are you using viaversion or any of that crap?
heady spear
nope
We've added fail safes everywhere after some dude was mad because he lost all his armour for the 55th time
lol
heady spear
Part of it was my fault, because we loaded data in asyncplayerpreloginevent, now we make sure to disconnect the player if they're already online
but it happening in the first place is weird
I guess you could launch a second session and login, and that would happen. But imo they should be disconnected before the event is even fired in that case
golden gust
That's a known server bug
worn ember
shouldve stuck to bukkit smh
heady spear
vanilla with command blocks is all u need
worn ember
if only
celest coyote
Lag over 9000
grand slate
I get handled twice all the time too
But i'm on an old version so I'm not allowed to complain
worn ember
handled in the ass i bet
worn ember
Rayz, more like Gayz
grand slate
Dark eye dragon, more like DED
worn ember
is that a threat?
grand slate
yes
worn ember
reported to the FBI and Discord
grand slate
It is still
Until October 31st
You're stuck with us for a while :) (pls let us stay)
worn ember
HARD BREXIT
acoustic pilot
Better stock up on foods
Once that free movement ends, and single market access ends, that shortage gonna creep in >_>
worn ember
CAN THE BEANS!
acoustic pilot
Yeah probably a good idea, anything that'll last long term
grand slate
No panic buying... that's what will put prices up
acoustic pilot
Buying now is cheaper than buying post-Brexit, that's just a fact of reality lol
Buy while supplies last, as they say.
Assuming no-deal, of course.
Will take a bit of time before food supply and logistics is re-established domestically
grand slate
Yea, but this panic buying is what's putting them up. I was told a story of the 90s, where there was an oil shortage scare, within hours oil was sold out everywhere. My mum worked at a bank and a client (petrol factory) illegally sold bankers petrol for their cars because it was so hard.
This panic created shortage and price hikes, turns out it never existed
acoustic pilot
Since UK will be losing about 30% of its food imports
true orbit
wide chasm
Why is UK leaving EU again?
acoustic pilot
There is no such thing as an oil shortage.
Food shortages due to import restrictions are very real though.
There was never such a thing as an oil shortage, btw.
Such a thing would indeed be a scare.
grand slate
@acoustic pilot that's the point, it was an example, but the public are dumb, they heat ShorTaGe and they panic
peak dirge
ayy brexit is going to be a mess
limber knotBOT
If you want to check your ping to Google stadia, ping this server
acoustic pilot
But food shortage is a very real possibility here because it's very real that UK imports 30% of its food from the EU
acoustic pilot
There is literally an overabundance of oil in the world
limber knotBOT
They just put a uuid behind the url
wide chasm
That link gives me a 404?
limber knotBOT
It crashed for me that's how I know the server
fallen oracle
HE SAID PING IT
grand slate
Mhm it is, it's made worse by panic tho. It will exist post brexit, but panic buying makes it worse
limber knotBOT
Ye, you need a uuid
fallen oracle
PING NOT VISIT
limber knotBOT
I mean, you can try brutforcing
fallen oracle
Good Morning everyone btw
wide chasm
I can't ping it either
peak dirge
ayy 5ms ping not going to have problems with a service I'm not going to use
grand slate
Morning
quasi valley
9ms 
peak dirge
makes sense, there's a Google datacenter just down the road from where I am basically 🙂
fallen oracle
Just opened Twitter to see PewDiePie got married, interesting.
grand slate
Lucky. Fuck
limber knotBOT
I tried to take a picture of the url but dude who was fixing just laughed when I reached for my phone 😂
limber knotBOT
They just had a chrome book open, with the controller and chrome with the url and I was playing doom
acoustic pilot
🤔
limber knotBOT
Didn't even play that bad, but it was noticeable that it was streamed
quasi valley
an exam cut short my plans for Gamescom, will probably be the same for the next years 🙄
fallen oracle
Cut the exam
quasi valley
I already cut an entire subject (= 1 year of waiting to get a new second subject), need to keep up with that, else I'd gladly do that 😂
acoustic pilot
just cut school
fallen oracle
I can't type I just woeki p
quasi valley
woeki p
fallen oracle
@acoustic pilot daily reminder that I enjoy using libby
acoustic pilot
lol
worn ember
lets all just agree the oil industry is a big scam
acoustic pilot
pretty much true for any big industry
easy to be the scammer when you're the one making the rules
yay big industry lobbies
worn ember
nothing money cant buy
quasi valley
our conservatives dont even hide the fact their doing theater politics "We commited to almost 50% of our promises, now we just have to sell it as if we had done more"
fallen oracle
Back in 15 for more juicy talk
quasi valley
now to the weather in the meanwhile: it sucks, too!
wide chasm
Everything sucks, get used to it.
quasi valley
I'm a student, I'm a professional at sucking at everything
acoustic pilot
except cats, and tacos.
static badge
tacos literally are the golden standard of shit
worn ember
@quasi valley is that how you make your money?
quasi valley
no u
dire swift
fallen oracle
little vine
You guys know what's really embarassing
having 10+ years of IT support and hardware/software experience + 5 years server experience and realizing server performance is crappy bc of windows "balanced' power scheme.
limber knotBOT
no
little vine
tldr just paid for a new i7 that i dont need bc my old server was in power-saving mode
lmao
limber knotBOT
having 10+ years of IT support and hardware/software experience + 5 years server experience and running a server on WINDOWS is embarassing
acoustic pilot
damn, facts
acoustic pilot
Sure, you can use a spoon to cut your steak. Doesn't mean it's a good idea 🙂
limber knotBOT
but what about a spife?!?
hot gorge
Ever looked into how much oil it takes to make ethanol, that they then use to supplement products of....the oil industry?
Wow discord
Way to keep up
I'm reading along and see the comment about the oil industry being a scam, reply and now were all of a sudden in a completely different conversation lol
acoustic pilot
lol all the pepe ping reactions https://i.imgur.com/FI0Vpkd.png
static badge
shame they were all sold
hot gorge
I wish I liked WoW
hot gorge
I played FFXI before WoW and it ruined other MMOs for me
acoustic pilot
I look forward to WoW Classic because it's a traditional 2000s MMO
static badge
and ur fat
hot gorge
That why I liked FFXI. It did ZERO hand holding
acoustic pilot
Yeah, I remember FFXI being pretty good, just didn't get into it much
hot gorge
That game was brutal to learn
acoustic pilot
But it was pretty awesome in that it was also multi-platform, though not sure if they could play with each other across platforms
e.g. console v PC
hot gorge
Yeah as a PC player I played with people on PS2
hot gorge
and later Xbox 360
acoustic pilot
So you were playing with Japanese people too
acoustic pilot
IIRC, the translation system wasn't that bad
hot gorge
Pretty well
Just gaming game language and greetings
There wasn;t any PVP in the game so
acoustic pilot
WoW Classic has PvP, so that'll be fun. I particularly enjoyed Guild Wars 2 PvP and WoW seems similar.
acoustic pilot
After like 2 years of revamping, but yeah FFXIV seems good now too, as evidenced by the fact that it's one of the most popular MMOs now
But when that piece of shit first launched...
hot gorge
YEah
acoustic pilot
They needed to fire that director a lot sooner.
hot gorge
I got the first version and it was pretty bad
acoustic pilot
Yeah I bought at launch, got my free googles and everything lol
hot gorge
They tried to recreate some of the stuff with FFXI and it didn;t work
acoustic pilot
Regretted pretty soon after, when it seemed like the guy in charge was a total retard
dry briar
acoustic pilot
Then they basically shut the whole thing down and did a major revamp for a while no?
hot gorge
But A Realm Reborn is great
Yeah
They took it down for over a year
If I had people to play with I would start up FFXIV again
acoustic pilot
I think Aikar plays
hot gorge
But everyone from Icrontic (the community i've been a part of since like 2002) are all WoW shitlords
acoustic pilot
Haha
I see WoW Classic as an opportunity too, it's a "new" game, on Aug 27 everyone is starting at level 1.
hot gorge
With new doggo, and my new house, I don't have time for MMOs anymore
Plus the other two doggos
acoustic pilot
Yeah shit will drain the life out of you lol
hot gorge
And working 50+ hours most of the year
acoustic pilot
MMO addiction already pretty bad with some ppl >_>
hot gorge
Yeah I've seen some people go trough some shit with MMOs
acoustic pilot
Can easily get in the way of your life
hybrid locust
hot gorge
Lost friends, health degrades
FFXIV has some features to remind you to go enjoy the real world
If you're logged in too long it will start popping up messages to you
IIRC
Because Japan
and Korea
acoustic pilot
I appreciate that the game will have no hand holding, but definitely gonna take it at my own pace and not try to max everything or get into theorycrafting lol
Yeah, those messages have existed at least in Korea for a long time.
I grew up in South Korea, net cafes were sort of my second (maybe first?) life.
I spent a huge portion of my free time in net cafes in Korea ($1/hr for high end gaming PC time)
And MMOs were a big deal in those places, lots and lots of people just filling the air with tobacco and playing Lineage or WoW
hot gorge
Lineage lol
acoustic pilot
Lineage was such a big deal in Korea
hot gorge
I haven't thought about that game in forever
acoustic pilot
I think there have been cases of people getting killed/brutally hurt over Lineage items/drama lol
hot gorge
Always would have random Koreans coming up in game shouting horribly broken english "BAFFS PLENKY" "BUFF PLOX"
"U HAVS MUNI FOR BOFFS"
acoustic pilot
Koreans take their games very seriously 😄
hot gorge
indeed
jaunty oriole
i keep hearing that a lot of players in the pro gaming scene are korean
worn ember
imagine still playing
acoustic pilot
They tied it in with the normal subscription
Probably because they wanna attract players to retail
Most of the realms they released are full now (name reservations are open)
They had to release a few more like yesterday or the day before
celest coyote
I only want to play classic doe
acoustic pilot
Yeah hope they eventually add a classic-only subscription, like $10 😛
hot gorge
I wonder how much money wow has made
Gotta be a billion, at least
Estimated 8.5 billion
wind walrus
fallen oracle
Hey gamers
ashen token
quasi valley
https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-156852 they set it to resolved/future version - 1.15
limber knotBOT
[wizjany] .pray
pulsar wigeon
.pray
limber knotBOT
Fix Version/s: Future Version - 1.15+
pulsar wigeon
fuck you bot
void void
Y'all, has anyone taken methadone before. My mom accidentally took one (father's meds) and she's high AF. And I'm wondering if I should like intervene and take her to a doctor.
void void
I'm not at the house where the pills are. I'm with her at her office
She fuckin drove here
wide chasm
If you're unsure, call a doctor, explain the situation and see what they have to say
limber knotBOT
congrats to your mother on the opioid addiction...
void void
Thanks for the sarcasm phoenix
limber knotBOT
no but seriously, if this was an accident make sure she doesn't start abusing that... it's one of the most common additions nowadays
void void
I know. It's my dad's meds. He has no legs. There is a legit use in the house.
woven otter
wow why are you being mean to the bot wiz
void void
It was an accident
limber knotBOT
"In 2013, about 41,400 kilograms were manufactured globally" wow
unreal parcel
worn violet
hot gorge
Since when is a kilogram a measurement of energy?
limber knotBOT
[wizjany] since devon is retarded
stiff yarrow
@cosmic raft new job or the same job you got a few weeks ago
limber knotBOT
[wizjany] imagine job hopping weekly
cosmic raft
@stiff yarrow same job
hot gorge
Wiz, we're going to work on your insults. Could have said something like "Devon's brain is constantly destroying it's own energy and that's why he's so stupid"
cosmic raft
stiff yarrow
I'm in a macintosh nirvana over here
woven otter
also why would even mention such thing. It's understandable that it was meant that x kilograms of something were manufactured
stiff yarrow
Mac = 
void void
Anyone know how to disable pillgaer spawning
I was thinking I would just set a command block on a loop
/kill @e[type=pillager]
you aren't manufacturing kilograms, which would involve kilograms getting made from nothing which is not possible without energy and energy cannot be created nor destroyed.
I understand what they mean, modifying existing kilograms into a new form to make it useful, but they aren't manufacturing kilograms
woven otter
clearly you don't understand what context is
void void
.optimize
limber knotBOT
Guide for optimizing performance: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimization⚡.283181/
radiant heron
wooden blade
Sounds like a feature.
void void
woven otter
wow latest paper actually feels faster 
(in comparison to paper 1.14.2/3)
can I blame leaf for this
static badge
yes
woven otter
gj leaf
umbral shoal
digital talon
a very useful leaf 😉
fallen oracle
So I'm doing some debugging on a project (not a MC plugin) and I turned on the GC verbose, how often is it typical to get a GC allocation failure or GCLocker initiated GC?
golden gust
Depends
fallen oracle
Trying to identify a memory leak somewhere, and I believe I have one in this project because over the course of 6 days, the average RAM usage went from 15MB all the way up to about 340MB, and it typically will crash on the 7th day.
golden gust
crash from what? and oom?
static badge
generally you don't use verbose gc for memory leaks
golden gust
There is a java flag to tell it to create a dump on running out of memory
static badge
you use a heap dump
golden gust
beyond that, give it some time to grow and take a dump, see what's sitting around
static badge
take a dump
golden gust
Nothing like a good dump to solve all your problems
fallen oracle
Yeah I think it was OOM
Out of Memory Error (os_linux.cpp:2757), pid=6403, tid=0x00007f95a8e2f700
golden gust
Your server ran out of memory
fallen oracle
Correct
static badge
generally not due to leaks that one
failing to allocate means you literally don't have the wam
fallen oracle
It ran out of memory because it went from 15MB up to 3 or 400MB
static badge
wow 400mb
golden gust
For that specific OOM, that's more overallocation to java if anything
Maybe there is a leak leading to that
maybe java is just thinking it's got what you told it to use
fallen oracle
So is there specific flags I should be using? After the first crash, I changed the max to 512MB
static badge
it'd have to be a leak not in the heap
fallen oracle
Currently using java -Xmx512m -jar project.jar
static badge
or you literally do not have the ram to spare for the process
valid tree
static badge
how much ram do you actually have on the system
fallen oracle
Like 4GB
This thing shouldn't need that much ram, it's a very light process, so that's why I was confused when it was sitting almost at the max RAM I allocated it
fallen oracle
It actually runs fine on 20 but if it truly is leaking, I'm going to guess it'll run out fairly quickly.
Idly right now it's using 5MB
So in 6 days when it's idling at around 300 or 400, that's just a tad concerning.
fallen oracle
True.
Alrighty, let's see how it goes.
Leaf said it won't show up in the heap right, so there's no use in adding a dump flag?
limber knotBOT
just add it, at least you'll have a dump if it runs out of memory
and with that little memory it's not too big either xD
static badge
no I didn't say that :>
golden gust
it just makes it dump before it closes
fallen oracle
Weird, I didn't start it back up, but it's still running
At least I have a heap dump now
What's the go to analyzer for that? The eclipse thing?
void void
I am trying to get my ipad charged enough to update to 12.4 before 12.4.1 is released today, and neither of my fast chargers are making a noticable dent in getting this charged in decent time
void void
I have tried charging it with my 9v official ipad charger for an hour, 1% in an hour, tried with a 2.4amp 5v fast charger, 2% in an hour
any time I try to actually use it while it's charging, it just dies again within minutes
ugh
limber knotBOT
lol, if you ever need english lessons: https://pastebin.com/u/gmalivuk/ xD
elfin verge
austere ivy
What's that?
fallen oracle
I think it's from the incoming JSON
Not sure if it just can't parse it fast enough or what
golden gust
see what's holding a ref to it
fallen oracle
It's from the Server class of the jar
So like, what's running the webserver
Which would be this class
limber knotBOT
that class doesn't even seem to contain references to strings? 🤔
void void
Animals that spawns via spawners are not natural ? (as they are standing stagnant like a zombie)
limber knotBOT
@void void if you disable spawner mob AIs then that will happen, yes
fallen oracle
My trial expired on YourKit so it wouldn't let me open it.
void void
Phoenix where can i check that?
upper flicker
It's in spigot.yml
Paper has a second option to let them jump but it's all controlled by spigot's
austere ivy
What's a good free java profiler?
void void
nerf-spawner-mobs: true is it that one?
limber knotBOT
yes
void void
so it's already set to true
limber knotBOT
which is why your mobs don#t have AI when they are spawned by spawners
void void
while in paper :
spawner-nerfed-mobs-should-jump: false
so in spigot.yml i set it to false right?
limber knotBOT
yes
fallen oracle
(Switched to VisualVM) So it looks like there was just one with a shit load of extra json or something
golden gust
You should be able to expand stuff and see what's actually holding a ref to it
fallen oracle
valueinjava.lang.StringBuilder#12 [GC root - Java frame] : [ { "external": false, "file": { "type": ".jar", "size": 31.5, "sizeUnit": "KB", "url": "resources/mineresetliteplus.1898/download?ve... 28 B (0%) n/a```Only reference
That's so weird, I just stress tested it and it worked fine, it allocated a tad more RAM but it's now just sitting at like 120 idle
golden gust
Somebody probably just sent a request large enough to kick it
fallen oracle
Yeah maybe. That might be hard to do though. I just tested it with some of the largest requests it could get.
I just make it process all of vk2gpz, inventivetalent, Phloxz, and RamonHernandez's resources (all at once) and it handled it.
limber knotBOT
lol
limber knotBOT
fallen oracle
Yikes.
void void
fallen oracle
Dang phoenix you got quite the collection of resources.
pulsar wigeon
wow look at how colorful all that 🚮 is
fallen oracle
Is there something wrong with it? If not, I'll go look how to do it.
golden gust
Nope
fallen oracle
Lit
woven otter
@azure patio https://i.imgur.com/QkjpNc9.png
fallen oracle
Well, we're getting somewhere.
I believe these ints are from generating images.
But it's weird. Some of these have no references.
narrow palm
tough slate
azure patio
🤔 👌
void void
SAT's are coming up and I'm just looking for another lookalike to take the test for me lmao
highly illegal
woven otter
wait. that's illegal
hybrid panther
what exactly was done to mob collisions in 1.13?
golden gust
They made them more accurate or something iirc
But in ref to performance, there is that and their option to use streams in hot code...
woven otter
hey they have to leave something for forks to optimize
limber knotBOT
rapid shadow
rapid shadow
hi i cant start 1.14.4 spigot or paperspigot server
limber knotBOT
@rapid shadow [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
marble summit
If u say no u r a furry who plays fortnite
void void
woven otter
@rapid shadow maybe you are doing it wrong
rapid shadow
i can start it on 1.13.2
the problem is hang on world generation, its freez on custom seeding text line
golden gust
You'll need to grab a jstack or something
Or, if you upgraded, it's prooobably either just super fast 1.14 or plugins breaking it
rapid shadow
no its new, how to grab jstack
golden gust
jstack <pid>
golden gust
Same process
No idea what the clean way of grabbing the process ID would be however
(and you would need the JDK for that too, not the jre)
rapid shadow
ok i think i should update my java jdk
woven otter
interesting
woven otter
are you sure
woven otter
unkempt drift
hmm
azure patio
lool
unkempt drift
is there a different . symbol maybe?
unkempt drift
rename one?
unkempt drift
unless you wanna preserve this absurdity.
azure patio
it was weird
two files, same name, with diferent modified date, both files were created by nvidia driver
limber knotBOT
lmao, dev bukkit's Cloudflage config just blocked me
*Cloudflare
srsly, fuck centralized services -.-
golden gust
.rekt
limber knotBOT
☑ Lord of the Rekts: The Reking of the King
woven otter
heh
limber knotBOT
well it made me point even more URLs to spigot ¯_(ツ)_/¯
at least I managed to put a warning above the comment box for people to head to the github issue tracker and spigot page so they stop complaining in teh comments about no support -.-
Kappa
void void
They were not kidding when they said you might have to retry a few hundred times for this jailbreak exploit to work on 12.4. I finally got it to the step where it makes a backup, now to keep trying until it goes all the way through
cosmic raft
hi
void void
My charger is a pos so I'm running to the store to get a new one
queen rapids
hi
woven otter
was work fun?
ashen token
can anyone send me in the right direction for adding chat prefixes to names on a server?
ashen token
i thought it may be included with EssentialsX but am having trouble finding support for it
hot gorge
I thought the issue with 12.4 was it allowed remote code that can jailbreak and allow access.
golden gust
luckperms
rapid shadow
freeze on this section
hot gorge
Momperms
limber knotBOT
usually the permissions plugin provides the prefix too ;)
woven otter
weird though it should work with java 8 as well
woven otter
binbows
ashen token
if i do vault:vault-info it says I have SuperPerms, does that sound right?
is it included with essentialsx?
ashen token
im on 8u221
limber knotBOT
SuperPerms is the built in Bukkit permissions system
ashen token
64 bit
woven otter
https://i.imgur.com/iNZhXKA.png
heh was this reference to spartan
tardy axle
woven otter
warped garden
limber knotBOT
void void
https://github.com/Marcookl/RotateSRV
yes, use this if your server is blacklisted @turbid birch
turbid birch
is it rare or something, i just havent heard anything of it in a long time
acoustic basin
Openjdk 13 is best java
woven otter
yes j13 will be fun
acoustic basin
It’s out
woven otter
well yes it's out but
acoustic basin
Sudo apt update && sudo apt install openjdk-13 or something idk
void void
no, my friends' keep having their servers blacklisted left and right, blacklisting is still going strong
woven otter
but but
azure patio
huh
turbid birch
ok so can i ask about a donator perk
azure patio
blacklist of servers?