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#general
void void
mint sequoia
for no reason
literally the only thing in the nether is this portal and the clock runs at like 0.2x normal speed lol
ill just delete the nether since it has nothing but its still weird af
celest coyote
Cat just lock that issue
azure patio
maybe timings if you want help with low tps in nether?
#paper-help
rich stream
mint sequoia
no, running the savefile in paper killed my nether performance in vanilla xD i dont care, its a test world
ive already deleted it
acoustic pilot
Does XenForo determine license validity through the install files or some other means?
Mostly asking because I'm about to try to dockerize XF
celest coyote
Oh damnit he made another issue
azure patio
"bugiem"
lul
report him to github
I reported him for swearing, insulting in some ancient language
β
acoustic pilot
Oh, looks like the license is associated with the install
fallen oracle
@acoustic pilot They have a way similar to something like that they can check
I think it associates with the domain too
acoustic pilot
So when I dockerize this, I should probably have it use my specific install files
fallen oracle
Rip
limber knotBOT
wtf, why does VS Community edition force me to sign in after the trial period... are they really that keen to sell my usage information? 
heady spear
blame the chinese
limber knotBOT
always
fallen oracle
Just compile it yourself silly
void void
limber knotBOT
suggesting to steal proprietary code from Microsoft servers just to compile it yourself to bypass a login
acoustic pilot
lol
void void
what sort of stuff are you doing with vs?
limber knotBOT
making shitty c# stuff less shitty
void void
is it worth trying jetbrain's .net thing?
limber knotBOT
dunno
void void
limber knotBOT
the question that I ask myself more is if it is worth just recoding it in java xD
but I kinda want to get into C# stuff so Β―_(γ)_/Β―
but yeah, a kinda familiar IDE might help, but I wish I could just use IDEA as rider seems to change stuff like shortcuts afaik?
No
It's the same IDE
It might come with the VS keymap enabled by default, not sure, but you can change that
hm
Rider is basically just a suite of plugins
well I guess I'll just import my exportet IDEA settings and see what breaks xD
ok THIS is a pretty cool feature of VS: https://i.moep.tv/jpBK5urJ.png
mint sequoia
stolen from sublime π
limber knotBOT
uh, it's even cooler than I realized at first: https://i.moep.tv/j7yncyGx.png Oo
is there an IntelliJ plugin for that? xD
void void
if you have intellij ultimate you might even be able to install the rider plugins
acoustic pilot
In Sublime it's called a minimap, can probably just search to see
Yeah if they are both IDEA then prob should be able to share plugins
limber knotBOT
uh, yeah, installing the plugins might make it less annoying. is there a way to find out all the stuff that rider uses by default?
acoustic pilot
Go to the plugins list
acoustic pilot
yeah
acoustic pilot
I mean if it's IDEA then all you need to do is install it and look through its plugin list lol
limber knotBOT
Oh and yes, there's a intellij plugin for the scrolling thing
acoustic pilot
Then you'll know what to install in IntelliJ
limber knotBOT
meh, my goal was to avoid having to install another program xD
Get jetbrains toolbox
It's not like rider is anywhere near the size of VS, lol
celest coyote
O this serms nice
celest coyote
Sometimes i need to reference mutliples peices of code from thr same class
acoustic pilot
nice
celest coyote
And i always fprget where i left off
limber knotBOT
eww, that screenshot on the plugin page. How can you code with such a background Oo
Alt and left arrow
Best key combo
(I do use the eclipse keymap tho)
alt+left just changes tabs xD
aww, the minimap plugin doesn't have the hover preview feature :(
acoustic pilot
I should set a weeb background image
limber knotBOT
On my keymap it does back to last edit
acoustic pilot
Might not be the same minimap plugin then
limber knotBOT
Open an issue π
acoustic pilot
Hm, actually, gonna look for a nice fractal background to set
dapper nacelle
I'd buy
heady spear
owo
dapper nacelle
can someone join my test server, I need to test the magic sword skill I am making
justdylan.me 1.14.4
heady spear
no
void void
just open two of minecraft
dapper nacelle
I said someone, not you
heady spear
no
merry talon
no
heady spear
sweepy is sensible
dapper nacelle
someone else joined
no need to join anymore
now I have confirmed that what I made looks amazing
static badge
@dusk drift thx for monies
woven otter
who's giving out monies
heady spear
not me
woven otter
ofc not you
tropic flame
limber knotBOT
void void
fallen oracle
What's the Bungeecord alternative to this.saveResource()?
limber knotBOT
afaik that's a java api method?
fallen oracle
Is it? o.o
golden gust
this.
mint sequoia
@static badge seems like you were correct, apologies for wasting your time.
limber knotBOT
wait, it might just have getResourceAsStream and you'll have to save manually or something like that
fallen oracle
I think it's in JavaPlugin but not Plugin
golden gust
Not sure that bungee has a method like that
but basically what phoenix said on the classloader
fallen oracle
Yeah I was trying something like Files.copy(in, langFile.toPath()); but that wasn't wanting to work. I'll keep looking into it.
limber knotBOT
Files.copy actually should work from inside the jar if you have a proper path
fallen oracle
I probably just have the wrong path then.
limber knotBOT
use getResource and get the URL/URI/Path from that
limber knotBOT
this is how I load my languages: http://git.io/fjFPs
fallen oracle
I probably just have the wrong path then.
acoustic pilot
pretty sure you can't use getResource() to list a "directory" in a jar, think it works on file system though
fallen oracle
You can actually.
odd kelp
acoustic pilot
So was skeptical lol
fallen oracle
Alright yeah it's probably wrong path cause it's the Files.copy() line that's throwing an NPE
acoustic pilot
Oh well yeah I guess NIO adds some options there
limber knotBOT
what you can't easily do is loop through all files in the jar root
well i guess there are solutions but it's a bit hacky imo
like opening the jar file as a zip xD
fallen oracle
Okay so it sees the path actually, it's the input stream that's null.
limber knotBOT
still feels wrong over just using existing api :P
just use my language library
runs
fallen oracle
Lmao. Okay yeah it's null when getting the resource as a stream.
sullen ermine
fallen oracle
Oh I Know why I think
acoustic pilot
getResourceAsStream() returning null means bad path
fallen oracle
So in bukkit, you can do getClassLoader() in the main class, but in Bungee you have to do getClass().getClassLoader()
acoustic pilot
You can also just do getClass().getResourceAsStream() but you need to make sure you use an absolute path which includes a root /
If you use that ^
fallen oracle
Yeah true, I'd have to rewrite it a little bit. I just think that's so weird that one can do it one way but the other can't.
acoustic pilot
Yeah I dunno why it's different either lol
fallen oracle
I might just have to do the other way and have to rewrite this entire method.
worn ember
Yes.
golden gust
remember the first website you ever made?
heady spear
Yes, it was very pretty. Some people called it cancerous
woven otter
city pls it's a plugin from 2001
heady spear
Honestly though, the store might be super cool but if the presentation is dated then, I don't know, it sort of takes away from the first impressions
heady spear
Honestly though, I'd be interesting in knowing whether anyone would be interested in moving the whole setup process from a website, to a minecraft GUI + chat window
The whole idea is very confusing to me. Although, I am probably not the intended user then
woven otter
you go make your mmorpg adventure and stop bothering other people
heady spear
Oh. The website is also a part of the payment wall. Then I feel kinda justified to be critical. It's a part of the end user experience.
no u
Any edit outside of the main config files (config.yml config.php) and outside of the game will result in loss of support.
This is like those warranty void if removed stickers.
woven otter
wow
Once an IP has connected connection_throttle_limit times within connection_throttle milliseconds, it must wait connection_throttle milliseconds before attempting to connect again.
what
celest coyote
replace connection_throttle with a constant integer of your choice
woven otter
oh okay. That was very confusing
celest coyote
and same for connection_throttle_limit
woven otter
got it thanks!
worn ember
Nya
woven otter
n cat
sly cloud
Has anyone tried routing server traffic through wireguard to bungeecord?
Im not sure why the server isn't responding when its on the wireguard subnet
nimble basalt
sly cloud
Im getting cancer from wireguard, im going to try spiped now
fringe flint
wireguard typically βjust worksβ
sly cloud
Yeh no apparently it doesn't
fringe flint
are you sure itβs not a firewall messing with you? can you ping the hosts from both sides?
sly cloud
I can
anyways firewall is like disabled
oh wait wtf 100 packet loss on one end
the client side
fringe flint
thatβll do it
sly cloud
sorry no
wrong ip xD
using the correct ip it works
but minecraft still doesnt work
sullen ermine
limber knotBOT
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sullen ermine
works on pper
static badge
not latest
sullen ermine
welll shieeeettttttttt
woven otter
Is there some tool for editing git patches? Was trying to edit a patch but got it corrupted pretty fast
woven otter
π
celest coyote
@woven otter dont directly edit patches
golden gust
Not unless you hate yourself
celest coyote
apply the patches, make changes in your IDE, commit changes using a fixup or something, rebuild patches
celest coyote
same idea applies
woven otter
yeah
the problem is I sent repository to someone(some private project) with changes that were not committed but now I wanted to actually turn it into proper project and rewrite git history accordingly
anyways I guess I won't actually need to do that because found out that he actually committed my changes
stupid fuckup tbh
celest coyote
change history?
how exactly
just squash all his changes into one or something like that
woven otter
Just wanted to change contributions so the history of commits is actually right
worn ember
nub
woven otter
wow bullying
void void
So the server I help admin was having lag issues so I did the optimization guide and changed hard mob despawn to 96
and immediately a player is like "my farm doesnt work anymore"
and i ask what kind of farm it is
-.-
quasi valley
tell him he's a nub
quasi valley
mobmerge plugins with caps ftw
woven otter
simplepls
void void
I have saml, villager limiter, limitpillagers, and a farm limiter
celest coyote
@void void use per played mob spawn patch 
celest coyote
Its stable but the prebuilt jar doesnt have async
So you will have to build it yourself
void void
meh maybe later
celest coyote
You dont need to fix thr patch
worn ember
patch the fix
celest coyote
Just drop it in and build jar
quasi valley
fix the patch
celest coyote
Theres nothing to fix
quasi valley
hah first
celest coyote
Reee
void void
im about to head to class but link?
celest coyote
2171
void void
thx
quasi valley
yea stoopid dack
woven otter
pretty sure saw someone using something like that
quasi valley
either it's for issues, was a thing at some point, or they were hard added 
quasi valley
maybe the bot is just duckist
grand slate
let's blame duck
woven otter
let's blame rayz
grand slate
um let's not
quasi valley
duckist
grand slate
no i disagree
woven otter
woven otter
oof
celest coyote
230 gb of memory
woven otter
golden gust
#BurnKashBurn
heady spear
be nice to kashike π¦
grand slate
CITY
golden gust
Never!
woven otter
CITY
grand slate
u are a fool
woven otter
u are a fool
grand slate
you still have not replied to my dm
golden gust
he has you by his paws
heady spear
idk what u r talking about
woven otter
haha
heady spear
never even knew
grand slate
i even asked you the other day and you said yea
heady spear
Sorry I am too famous to remember everyone that contacts me
grand slate
somebody get city a diary
quasi valley
yeah get a ticket and wait for your turn
grand slate
that's true, i am minecraft famous tho
golden gust
do i kno u?
heady spear
basically a mojangster
grand slate
Wait who's city
heady spear
I actually did read the DM, but I didn't have any good answer for you π
heady spear
I was gonna suggest combinatorics and generating functions, but that's kinda boring
grand slate
Yea, sorta :d i found a nice one on cryptography so it's all good
heady spear
That's cool π Good luck
grand slate
thanks π
woven otter
went to same high school as jeb but still bad
heady spear
Okay but why did a Russian mmo website write about our server
woven otter
because it was that bad
heady spear
and a spanish one, and a polish one. We have a bunch of confused russians getting angry at us for not letting them speak russian π
heady spear
You know it's good and you can't deny that π
woven otter
No I can
heady spear
stop lying bitch
woven otter
ur a bitch
heady spear
suck my macbook dongle
woven otter
well okay fine
it was good
except when you teleported me back when I discovered edge of the world
heady spear
you weren't supposed to exploit the world border .-.
woven otter
exploit as in walk?
heady spear
You should have done like all the others and spend weeks leveling up so you can collect apples and make cider
heady spear
Explore within the map
woven otter
it's within the map if there's no world border
heady spear
no
woven otter
yes
woven otter
well that's because they're not that dedicated
they were just hitting those pesky rats
where's fun in that
heady spear
dedicated enough to throw money at us
woven otter
they threw money at you but didn't spend any time playing the game
woven otter
Can I steal your money
heady spear
no I need to get my drivers license
and I want to get the canon 85mm f/1.2
actually guys subscribe to my onlyfans, I promise full frontals
heady spear
no just poor
woven otter
weird and poor
heady spear
ok true
worn ember
Poor and gay
pulsar wigeon
lmfao what this is a thing https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Element
void void
minecraft on linux is a bug fiesta
pressing 2 and 6 while holding down shift doesn't work at all
static badge
it's for educational minecraft
void void
apparently it's a LWJGL bug but i have the latest version
pulsar wigeon
apparently in bedrock too?
static badge
idk it's bedrock
pulsar wigeon
i mean i know the new education edition stuff runs on the same base as bedrock
but i thought bedrock itself was supposed to be vanilla-ish?
fallen oracle
That's what the government wants you to think.
wraith wharf
I am thinking about a very serious problem:
how to make a ecomony system in pure vanilla Minecraft?
Or maybe, with no to minimal plugins installed?
Inflation is a bitch
Deflation as well
worn ember
well there isnt really an economy in vanilla, more like a trade system i guess
wraith wharf
Yeah
Thus the system mentioned above could only exist in multiplayer
What kind of item could be the currency? Simple: Command blocks
like, what kind of formula should I use to determine the price of something
static badge
gold sinks?
celest coyote
throw it into the ocean?
jaunty oriole
they added chemistry stuff on bedrock
https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/update-aquatic-phase-one-out-now
wraith wharf
Should the price go down exponentially if player/s sold an item too many?
void void
deft adder
sick lake
woven otter
before I fuck up anything else how do I revert the last commit so that it doesn't create a commit message
should I do:
git reset --hard HEAD~1 and then force push?
cobalt marsh
heady spear
Economies are hard. We scale rewards and market prices to try to keep the economy stable, but it requires a lot of planning :/
Itβs an even bigger problem if thereβs a big distinction between early and late gameplay, as it needs to be balanced throughout. This is the case for progression based servers, no fun.
static badge
planned economies are for communists
heady spear
Yes and we love communism around here
limber knotBOT
well the question is more if the bugs are worth the hassle (at least for normal players)
I guess it's nice if you want to give staff the ability to have a further view distance for screenshots or soemthing
also: > non spigot plugin on spigot Kappa
celest coyote
it doesnt work on 1.14
limber knotBOT
last time I tried that there where some issues with invisible entities, dunno if that's fixed yet
wraith wharf
gets stabbed
dies
red juice everywhere
Last words: Blood is red because of communism
crystal otter
wraith forge
void void
manic isle
woven otter
go away rayz
manic isle
Whenever I enter the portal that is supposed to take me back to the overworld from the end, I get "loading terrain" and after a few seconds I get disconnected. Can anyone help??
woven otter
why are you calling me fat
woven otter
mfw
fallen oracle
celest coyote
woven otter
abstract aspen
@jaunty oriole
Minecraft: Education Edition Chemistry features can now be enabled under Cheats! For tips on getting started, check out the Chemistry Lab Journal
Only education edition
it seems
fallen oracle
Woot. Teaching the kids to make meth.
manic isle
Where do I go to receive help on this server???
abstract aspen
what kinda help do you need
fallen oracle
peak kite
Don't support payware, support freeware! Donate, don't buy. Not sure if anyone noticed, but the BEST plugins are all open source, and free, with donations accepted. (some do the pay for dev version scam tho) You deserve to get effed, if you buy in this market, its full of scams, viruses, malware, and obfuscated jar files.
It seems good plugin authors know something because they all do open source and free....... ... .
hybrid panther
well, making a good plugin takes effort
I guess if you get money from it you get motivated and end up making it simply better
fallen oracle
I just do free and freemium stuff.
quasi valley
Why would Via make his file editor plugin stop working
fallen oracle
Cause he knew Kenny would complain.
vestal jasper
fuckity plugins do fuckity things
sudden cliff
vestal jasper
it's not enough to just make a plugin
you must make the plugin as prone to breaking as possible
peak kite
It doesn't help that mc gets changed so much that it breaks everything all the time. MC dosen't improve that much, why does it need to break everything every release....
vestal jasper
If you use the bukkit API then your plugins rarely ever break
Which is the purpose of the bukkit api
quasi valley
βDoesnt improve that muchβ what
Also yeah, using nms and expecting it not to break
vestal jasper
Again, fuckity plugins do fuckity things
:^)
touch stuff you shouldn't and you reap the consequences
cerulean thicket
here's a dumb question, i'm considering installing the ExtraHardMode plugin, and one of the configurable settings is as follows:
based on the available information presented to me by this config file, how the hell would players ever be able to obtain cobblestone
if the only items that could mine stone (by default) are iron and diamond pickaxes, and you need at least a stone pickaxe to get iron (right?) how would you get the cobblestone to make the stone pick in the first place?
i just need someone else to look at what i'm saying and tell me i'm right or maybe that I am missing something important here
void void
They would have to find iron in a chest in a village, and then punch a tree and make some sticks.
This is why it's "hard".
Or kill a village iron golem
fallen oracle
So if someone chargesback, and they lose the chargeback, you keep the money AND they are still removed from the buyers list, right?
zealous socket
@cerulean thicket if you mine coal ore surrounded by stones, those stones become softened
cerulean thicket
ah yes, I didn't think abotu that since I didn't get a chance to really test it yet
that and I was thinking of much more creative solutions
namely that TNT turns stone into cobble (on the default settings)
which you can then mine
zealous socket
The walkthrough video gives a good overview of what to expect I think
https://youtu.be/4rGkxLnKmn8?t=68
limber knotBOT
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stiff yarrow
@fallen oracle I don't contest them
but if a chargeback or refund occurs they are removed from the buyers list typically
fallen oracle
Lit
void void
Has anyone experienced a diamond pick with eff 3+ pushing them as they mine blocks
austere ivy
What should I eat?
austere ivy
.ask
limber knotBOT
If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.
austere ivy
Why is the wood reflective
void void
maybe it's shiny wood
austere ivy
Also they announced that they canceled the super Duper graphics pack because it wouldnβt be available on all systems. Then they go out and make RTX shaders only for windows 10. Itβs crazy.
void void
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
So apparently mining straight down with a high eff pick (or any tool?) will push your player around as you mine? Apparently it's a 1.14 bug?
Haven't heard dis just looking for confirmation
celest coyote
oh yeah that
its because of client and server desync
technically that was fixed in 1.14.4
unkempt drift
I thought that was fixed
celest coyote
spigot unfixed it
vestal jasper
LOL
unkempt drift
ahh. nice
vestal jasper
did vanilla 1.14 unfix block desync too or was that also spigot's doing?
celest coyote
the block desync?
celest coyote
no the block desync still happens but its just handled differently
golden gust
Oh, vanilla broke that, should be solved in paper
vestal jasper
Yeah I was just wondering if spigot fucked another thing
celest coyote
"fixed" is a matter of perspective/opinion
void void
I mean, I'm on 173 and it's still there
I repro'd
And for some reason I can't start paper on winblows lmao
rip
golden gust
rip den
void void
alright fuck windows, lemm ejust see if mac is done updating yet
hyped for firefox again
woven otter
simpl
void void
wat
woven otter
i wan a fren
void void
i dont befriend ducks
void void
yea
void void
at least i dont run around and ask everyone for quack
woven otter
I don't either. I sell quack
peak kite
quackin me all up.
void void
no
void void
it literally is mc
woven otter
π±
peak kite
Citizens2 plugin with Sentinel plugin and Highwayman plugin .
I had to edit the citizens saves.yml file to get the npc Police to target the Highway Man, because the name had a space in it, and the console entry wouldn't take it.
void void
ok i tested on a plugin-less 1.14 build 174 and it's not pushing me
could it be....essentials?
:(
woven otter
pushing you?
void void
eff3+ pick mining straight down pushes the player around on my server
but i can't repro on a test server
im dling all the plugins atm
void void
wat fak
doest even happen with all the plugins
Apparently this is a "high ping" issue with 1.14, that's all I've heard, beyond that it's a general 1.14 bug that spigot unfixed. I can't repro on local test server, but can on this server which is hosted in france when I am in cali. So that kinda supports the theory to an extent.
austere ivy
@void void it's not mc what are you talking about ._.
void void
It literally sounds exactly like mc
austere ivy
song has a piano
void void
You ripper
austere ivy
...
void void
This literally sounds EXACTLY like mc, sped up slightly with some clapping.
austere ivy
Also I draw a lot of inspiration from C418 sure but I have a ton of other piano songs, it's not like I straight ripped it.
If it sounds like MC I'll take that as a compliment ;D
void void
I'm not saying it's not good, but I'm being real
It sounds like MC
It sounds like you opened the game, listened, and changed it slightly and put your name on it
Call you TehC418
austere ivy
Honestly all of my other songs are too kinda upbeat and I tried to be more ambient with this.
I've never been able to use percussion well or do subtle changes so I just made this at 2AM yesterday and just kinda let myself do whatever.
But I mean I'm not publishing it as a song, it's just for practice.
So if it sounds good-ish like MC then it shows I'm at least somewhat improving so thanks ;p
tawdry coyote
it's pretty gud
theme is a little repetitive but i like it
cosmic raft
assuming everyone saw https://www.neowin.net/news/mojang-and-nvidia-announce-ray-tracing-support-for-minecraft already?
austere ivy
Yup.
static badge
rtx 
peak kite
Interesting the push now to require win 10... more big corporate anti-trust garbage.
They paid how much for minecraft, and what do you know, now the win10 requirement just pops up.
woven otter
hmm interesting
dapper nacelle
if I use a world#getNearbyEntities with radius 0, will it return an entity if the exact point is inside of the hitbox of that entity?
woven otter
1.14 with real time ray-tracing
dapper nacelle
SEUS has ray tracing lol
void void
jesus christ
woven otter
I wonder if he ever thought of reaching that number
austere ivy
.. no kidding
He's making 10 dollars an hour every day doing nothing.
Not that he IS doing nothing, but I'm saying if he dropped off for a month and there wasn't any development for a bit, he'd still get paid.
void void
preciousstones no 1.14 :( unless im looking in the wrong place
cosmic raft
48k per month
peak kite
Think how far back he was working on it.
austere ivy
Wait what.
void void
That's $1600 a day.
woven otter
lol
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Exact result: 24449/365 - Decimal approximation: 66.98356164383561643835616438356164383561643835616438356164... - https://is.gd/YwO7P7
void void
is this reputable? elmakers, so. http://jenkins.elmakers.com/job/PreciousStones/
austere ivy
So basically 67 dollars an hour.
HOWEVER you do have to think that Patreon cuts out a good percentage.
woven otter
now calculate how much faster he reaches any of your monetary goals for fun
austere ivy
95% of 48898 is 46453.1.
peak kite
Im sure its noice, but not really. Rich enough to get taxed to hell.
austere ivy
.wa (((46453.1*12)/365)/24)
limber knotBOT
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austere ivy
He's still making 63 dollars an hour :peepoJuice:
Which means for doing nothing, Patreon is making 3 dollars an hour off of him.
void void
I mean, I'm in debt ~7K and I feel like I'm drowning
But he can do nothing all day and make more than that in a week.
Like
I'm fucking jealous
austere ivy
I'm incredibly jealous right now, yeah.
woven otter
the short answer is he's making more money than you
austere ivy
Communism doesn't sound so bad right now >:I /s
Communism doesn't sound bad until you're him LOL
peak kite
lol
austere ivy
Some people are more wealthy than others, sure, but you gotta admit, he does good work.
He does good work and he's getting paid BECAUSE everyone wants it.
peak kite
so then code your own shader, and advertise the f out of it?
woven otter
I'm jelly even of 10% he earns per month
austere ivy
Yup.
4000 a month is good living right there.
40000 a month?
hoo
boy
4000 a month I guess isn't amazing living but it's something.
peak kite
And he did it right, got free popularity by givign it away free.
void void
10% of that is still more than I made busting my ass at the bank
void void
Assuming he's on patreon premium and has no discount, 12% plus payment processing. So that's $35200 minus ima say another 1K for payment processing but that is being liberal af about it. He still takes 34200 in that case.
austere ivy
Simple, incorrect.
He got it before the new pricing system, as did I for my patreon.
void void
48K. I used 40, so holy fuck
austere ivy
You get grandfathered into 5%.
void void
Well, then he takes even more
austere ivy
Yeah he does.
I already calculated it, https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/613135951488876557
They just skimmed 2000 dollars off a month.
void void
no u
woven otter
listen to cat
golden gust
void void
anyone know if that elmakers preciousstones junk is reputable or not
or if i should just find a different plugin
woven otter
that sounds familiar tbh
void void
some claiming plugin
you place a sponge or something
i refreshed sonic ether's page and he's making even more now than he was 5 mins ago
golden gust
Can't say it's really looked after these days
void void
π π«
woven otter
well look at the bright side even with that money he will die at some point
same goes for you though
peak kite
even with it? think about it, he will need to change with the future..
its a job no matter what..
fallen oracle
Whatcha need a claiming plugin for?
void void
this server i help to manage
golden gust
bloodshot has griefdefender
fallen oracle
^^
void void
players want to protect their builds, atm we just roll back with co
but is it easy for players to use is the question
fallen oracle
The new claiming system I want to implement into Guilds will be pretty fucking awesome given I can do the calculations for it.
peak kite
why not use a plot claim plugin like plot2 or towny?
woven otter
simple refresh the page again
crystal otter
calculations? i'm interested
austere ivy
how the heck
20 minutes ago he was making 48898.
Now he's making 48923.
How did his monthly salary just increase by 5 dollars in 20 minutes.
woven otter
you mean 25$ ?
austere ivy
HEK
fallen oracle
Damn, spigot is getting hit with malware in the resources hard.
There's been like 4 of the latest new plugins posted are malware.
limber knotBOT
such as
peak kite
Thats how i got my name.
A note about opensourcerers...
The biggest thing I have noticed that plugin makers do, is make a regular plugin that is free, and one that has extended features (mostly for large servers) that cost a fee. But the latest fad, charge for dev version, will die. It will make the free popularity go in reverse, unless they update the free version a bit too.
woven otter
what if you make it open-source but premium π€
unreal quarry
Solution: stop using other people's plugins. Make your own ;)
peak kite
Thats the best method, for sure, get that damn java dev book out ....
austere ivy
Spigot needs a lot of improvement.
austere ivy
One thing is that I wish that each update of a plugin had the option to specify what version of MC it's for.
woven otter
what if ebook cat
austere ivy
(like bukkit)
woven otter
it's still a book
peak kite
spigot for its popularity, youd think would scan the jars..
austere ivy
I'd preferably only use plugins that are open source and being able to sort through specifically only open source would be nice.
Also, "scan the jars"
Do you mean manually or automatically?
peak kite
i call ebooks.. books
austere ivy
Because if it's manually they'd have to pay people and that's not great..
dapper nacelle
I need to test my sword skill plugin, can someone join my server, I promise you won't regret it
peak kite
An auto scan would always need revisions from manual efforts.
Common methods of obfuscation would be the first step. Those immediately flag a human review.
austere ivy
That's a good idea.
peak kite
crypto. yea ok, lets have a human see this... no thanks..
fallen oracle
Apparently a lot of the malware lately in the jars has the same MD5 hash
So why not just block the hash
peak kite
wow
fallen oracle
"they can change it" yes but they've been using the same hash apparently for weeks now
peak kite
lol
fallen oracle
If it's actually a bit, maybe a human isn't even interacting with it at all
Bot*
Just block the damn file hasj
Hahs
Hash
austere ivy
How can they have the same MD5 hash?
Even ONE slight difference would have an entirely different hash.
peak kite
geez. even i could figure out how to scan a pub directory for md5 hash and delete..
fallen oracle
I'm just going from this https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/list-of-found-malware.389467/page-5#post-3523010
austere ivy
Are you saying that the plugin jars are literally the entire same?
Or is it like.. what they're posting publicly?
fallen oracle
I think what it's trying to download / the malware
austere ivy
oh okay.
fallen oracle
They are apparently reposting popular plugins now with malware in them
fallen oracle
I wouldn't mind having a higher post requirement to submit resources
peak kite
so they would need a jar test box. ran through a proxy network
dapper nacelle
Billy?
unreal quarry
Some people just want to watch the world burn
dapper nacelle
do you have time to check out my magic plugin
fallen oracle
Bug yeah, hidden code in a free plugin is a red flag
peak kite
Why not jsut block new plugins that are not verified by owner history?
fallen oracle
Can only submit if you have 200 posts or higher
austere ivy
..
peak kite
Forums don't let newbs post etc...
austere ivy
No D:<
fallen oracle
.typing
tropic flame
Bruh I doubt I even have 20 posts wtf
golden gust
That just means that billy average won't be able to upload
fallen oracle
Wtf
unkempt drift
man 200 posts seems high. I agree that it should be higher, but 200 is a bunch
limber knotBOT
austere ivy
woven otter
200 posts mfw
fallen oracle
Damn bot
dapper nacelle
rlly, no one wants to see my plugin which adds magic to your server?
austere ivy
200 is a tad too high.
tropic flame
Don't put it 200 posts minimum
fallen oracle
I was kidding
austere ivy
Currently busy with others Dylan.
peak kite
That just means you would need to make a bunch ...
fallen oracle
10,000, take it or leave it. Only Brett can submit resources.
tropic flame
Oof
dapper nacelle
tropic flame
Insert /s here
woven otter
take this /s
austere ivy
What about 15,000?
peak kite
I don't think it needs to be that much...
tropic flame
Thank you
austere ivy
That way the forums will be dead.
woven otter
what about
austere ivy
Everyone will migrate to PaperMC forums.
woven otter
.wa 10^100^10
austere ivy
Win win here right?
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) No results.
woven otter
well he tried
austere ivy
No because md_5 would be able to post.
fallen oracle
Just use the Spiget API to download all the new resources and check the decompiled code ez
peak kite
But cmon, new author account created, and new plugin uploaded. NOT SUSPICIOUS AT ALL?
austere ivy
I'd be fine with a 10 post minimum.
fallen oracle
There have been a few with older
peak kite
cant get em all
tropic flame
What about a setting like discord, "the user has to be in for at least 10 minutes before doing things"?
fallen oracle
The goal is to catch em all
tropic flame
But instead of 10 minutes make it months or something
peak kite
AI
austere ivy
Can only go so far though.
peak kite
till then...
fallen oracle
Make it as long as the premium queue 
woven otter
tropic flame
Oh y e s
fallen oracle
That'll give us about 5 weeks
tropic flame
Make spigot scan every jar with virustotal on upload
woven otter
you're plugin haven't been accepted yet?
peak kite
virus scanners apparetly don't see the various obfuscaion methods due to the plugin downloading a change through encrypted connection
fallen oracle
No it has, but it took about 4 1/2 weeks
woven otter
fallen oracle
I had to go pester one of my inside sources.
tropic flame
Make it so you can only post once md_5 has replied in a thread you posted earlier
Now that's something
woven otter
make it so you have to be contributor of paper
hybrid panther
make it so you can post only if your resources have good reviews
0 new plugin developers
but also
0 malware
tropic flame
Poor ezProtector tho
peak kite
newb rules are not new. its amazing how spigot has none?
fallen oracle
What is your typical go-to decompiler to check resources for malware?
tropic flame
It's a free market
Luyten (yes ik it's a GUI for other decompiler but I don't remember the name)
peak kite
so because perhaps users are required to make accounts to download specific plugins, they use those same accounts to upload fake plugs later? get rid of the signup requirement? less user management?
vestal jasper
I usually use luyten
golden gust
noob rules really don't deal with the issue too much, tbh
Beyond giving more work for the resource staff to do
void void
intellij has a great decompiler that even supports the new java versions
peak kite
but look at the upload dates of the plugins and the creation date of the users...
woven otter
it sometimes produces weird results though
vestal jasper
Resource staff actually auditing things (or server owners also auditing things) sounds like a more realistic approach
woven otter
it's mostly good but there are cases when even jd-gui is better
vestal jasper
I have both installed in case one dosn't work or produces weird results
golden gust
fernflower/procyon are nice
void void
jd-gui is nice if you want a fully decompiled project ready to open in eclipse in 2 clicks that all you have to do is fix some variable declarations for arrays and it compiles
but everything else about decompling with jd-gui sucks if you want a decent readable code base
tropic flame
You know something's weird with a Java decompiler when it's called "javadecompiler"
Like yeah, we got it already /s
void void
that's some nasty obfuscation right there
fallen oracle
Yeah
peak kite
compare that to all the free opensource and popular plugins and you can eaisly find that sucker
void void
also how will that work if the config and plugin.yml is in the package and not in root
ancient bolt
@acoustic pilot I'm eating too much food here
ancient bolt
I'm not gonna make it
void void
offtopic but I just got into scented candles and i'm addicted already
fallen oracle
tropic flame
I always seek if there's open source software for what I want because they're usually of sane quality as commercial ones with the plus of being free
fallen oracle
So this plugin is pinging CurseForge for updates 
peak kite
regex all known good plugin. if plugin is TOO simple ?
woven otter
bytecode-viewer is nice because there are few decompilers in it that you can use as well as ability to see it as hex and bytecode
also ability to export it etc
limber knotBOT
UwU
wind heath
fallen oracle
I'm really confused. https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/chunkloader-fast.70507/ this is Buycraft.
Like, I decompiled the code and it's literally a buycraft jar
ancient bolt
Who needs bytecode viewer when you have javap
woven otter
javap is overrated
proven nexus
unkempt drift
wait what glare?
worn ember
Javapp
fallen oracle
I can't wait until they start using the Skript Obfuscator trying to post malware.
woven otter
actually using IJ is nice but not cool if you want standalone decompiler
skript obfuscator
@potent warren
limber knotBOT
tbh it depends on your application, which decompiler is most convenient
peak kite
Its simple, tons of vps's running cpu coin miners/dos bots?
woven otter
that's just wrong
potent warren
lmao
peak kite
the user thinks the vps sux, and the vps service provider sees heavy cpu / bandwidth and dosen't care since they can charge more...?
woven otter
hmm interesting:
https://i.imgur.com/AgBmR7q.png
worn ember
I'm a simple man.
I see duck I pull the trigger
potent warren
What the fuck
peak kite
other than payware , why obfuscate?
woven otter
good question lol
woven otter
heheh
fallen oracle
The thing that made me lose my shit was this
woven otter
throwback to #decodevision
potent warren
@woven otter oh, the plugin needs to be in there
fallen oracle
The dude said it needed a secret key in case you LOST YOUR SKRIPT
potent warren
bRuH
fallen oracle
How the fuck do you lose that and how can you not just unskramble it?
potent warren
the plugin unscrables that and then loads it
worn ember
Just read the memory
woven otter
hmm I wonder how hard it is to write unscrambler for that lel
worn ember
Challenge accepted
potent warren
bRuH
worn ember
I don't even know skript
woven otter
other than payware , why obfuscate?
why obfuscate at all
dapper nacelle
Nick
peak kite
not everyone sees the opensource light?
dapper nacelle
Do you have time right now?
woven otter
you're making life harder for other devs for extra 5$
dapper nacelle
I made magic in minecraft
woven otter
and for yourself
peak kite
and using free sites like spigot to advertise your payware... yea, i don't go for it...
dapper nacelle
do you have time to help test?
potent warren
I could try giving feedback with a video.
I can't join myself, but a video is probably a good idea. π
potent warren
Videos are also useful for when you want to see all the progress you've made along the way.
void void
obfuscating skript, sounds like the most dumb idea of my life. if you are dumb enough to use skript but yet smart enough to know how to obfuscate, i'm sure you could spend the couple hours needed to learn basic java and make the same thing in java and not have to obfuscate
woven otter
hey great idea for obfuscation:
make everything use JNI and obfuscate any C code necessary lel
potent warren
@woven otter most users wouldn't even know how to decompile C π /s
dapper nacelle
no need for obfuscation if you have no licence for your project + a lawyer
woven otter
no need for obfuscation if you believe in conscience
woven otter
but muh extra 5$ from premium plugins
potent warren
one could just modify the Skript plugin and have it spit out the loaded file
ebon plinth
woven otter
oh nick you're right
peak kite
sounds like a obfuscator-detector plugin is now in demand.?
dapper nacelle
I think my plugin is overloading the packet queue
woven otter
I'm actually curious how it works considering i managed to unscramble it pretty fast
Infected wdym
peak kite
git yer live cd out
woven otter
Dylan is it that particle thingy plugin
peak kite
is there a linux live cd hasher for modified files?
worn ember
Wat
woven otter
what
worn ember
You can write a script to compare the hashes
woven otter
or use git bash
worn ember
? How is using git bash relevant lol
woven otter
file hashes?
late compass
peak kite
I was talking for all files in the system.
peak kite
yea, to run before and after.
woven otter
https://i.imgur.com/GlBoZxc.png
from git bash
worn ember
Well you can run it on an interval and compare
@woven otter yes now do it for every file in a folder periodically... Lol
woven otter
well make a script then?