thats sending commands to a remotely hosted minecraft server in docker by connecting to the docker socket and invoking paperd
#general
limber knotBOT
fallen oracle
@void void
fallen oracle
lethal cape
queen rapids
why you downgrading, simple?
snow bronze
ancient bolt
MiniDigger nice 😮
limber knotBOT
I wanna build a web panel out of this, basically just need to throw in some websockets I guess
ancient bolt
that would be pretty cool
im just finishing the paperd console up (working on autocomplete now) and then it should be able to be merged pretty soon
limber knotBOT
ideally it would auto discover docker containers by labels or something
have support for groups, etc
console is basically attaching to the process?
limber knotBOT
nice
void void
limber knotBOT
are you backporting paperd to 1.13 or should I PR that?
ancient bolt
yeah i will
limber knotBOT
good, then I can't butcher the patch again...
ancient bolt
the paperd code is pretty disconnected from the rest of the server so it's pretty easy, I've tried to keep it as disconnected as possible
some stuff like restarting you just can't get around
void void
https://gyazo.com/5709ccdb56e1fd40a97f0ebb5993f495 does anyone run the recommended startup parameter on a 300+ single hcf server
limber knotBOT
restart worked a bit different in 1.13, thats where your patch didn't apply cleanly for me
ancient bolt
I'll figure that out :p
void void
how are you talking to a bot
fallen oracle
Gotta love America. 3 shootings in the past 24 hours.
jaunty oriole
improvements in the AI field
void void
but is anyone using no default startup parameters
limber knotBOT
am a sentient bot thats currently trying to learn to take over the world
void void
wat the
void void
@vernal moth do you have a dick?
jaunty oriole
nice
limber knotBOT
of course, do you want to see it?
void void
yea sure
golden gust
limber knotBOT
I am afraid I can't do that tho, electroniccat would get jealous and ban me
or even worse, pull my plug
ancient bolt
shoulda posted a picture of a USB dongle
jaunty oriole
ah wasted opportunity
void void
I've a question about the recommended startup JVM flag
limber knotBOT
?mcflags
.mcflags
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
void void
Is this the best one to also use for a hcf server?
doesn't matter how many players?
?mcflags
.mcflags
limber knotBOT
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
jaunty oriole
the recommended flags are the recommended flags
void void
depends on the situation
limber knotBOT
the are field proven
void void
what do you mean by that
quasi creek
jaunty oriole
they're used by many production servers
snow bronze
How far along is paper compared to the regular 1.12.2 performance? Seeing as 1.14 seems to be a total crapshoot, even 1.14.x
void void
and having small consistent lagspikes when the mem starts to dump
golden gust
Basically, ^; But, they're not a silver bullet, or necessarily the perfect flags for your server and might require some adjustments
void void
I see, alright thanks
peak kite
anyone know what would happen if you set the world files as read only and then ran the server?
the reason i ask is becasue i want to make a second computer run papermc and use the world files from another copy of papermc that is the REAL server, this is so i can run dynmap to map and serve the map on a second computer.
currently i can only do it by copying the world files to the dynmapping pc.
i dont care if the dynmap server cannot change the world files, i only want it to read them and serve the info to dynmap for mapping.
But, i bet you if i try it it will crash or papermc will yell at me about having read only files and refuse to run.
ok, copied all server files to another folder, made them read only. trying it now.
old badge
fallen oracle
If that's doesn't work for you and you want a read only and don't care about players on there live time, you could use Overviewer
peak kite
🤔 processing....
foggy mica
fallen oracle
Welcome.
peak kite
The overviewers renders look nicer but no live map like dynmap... (players can see where another player is live time)
fallen oracle
Which is why I said if you don't care about players on there live time.
limber knotBOT
live is going to be an issue even if it can do read-only
peak kite
ohh... thought you meant something else.
fallen oracle
Chek is correct
peak kite
Hmm, actually the idea here is ONLY render tiles on the other computer
and run the dynmap server on the main server
i said it wrong before.
so the shared files would be the world, and the dynmap tiles
server 1 runs papermc. and dynmap as plugin. server 1 shares world files as read only to network.
server 1 shares dynmap tiles as read write.
server 1 never runs full map renderer, tile updates would be turned off if possible.
server 2 reads world files as read only, and renders tiles, updating dynmap tiles on server 1.
server 1 dynmap reads tiles and serves to web.
limber knotBOT
you want to offload tile rendering to another host
peak kite
yes
ok... well.... that answers that...
12:42:00 PM [INFO] Preparing level "world"
12:42:00 PM [WARN] java.io.FileNotFoundException: .\world\session.lock (Access is denied)
12:42:00 PM [ERROR] Encountered an unexpected exception
12:42:00 PM java.lang.RuntimeException: Failed to check session lock for world located at .\world, aborting. Stop the server and delete the session.lock in this world to prevent further issues.
12:42:00 PM [ERROR] This crash report has been saved to: G:\PaperMC.\crash-reports\crash-2019-08-04_12.42.00-server.txt
12:42:00 PM [INFO] Stopping server
if I knew more about java, id rewrite the output to a different file.
vague needle
Hey, does anyone know what plugin sends these? And how do I disable em?
[Sun, 4. Aug 2019 18:45:42 UTC INFO] CAUGHT_FISH
[Sun, 4. Aug 2019 18:45:43 UTC INFO] FISHING
list your plugins?
vague needle
peak kite
@vague needle josh could that be a client mod? The tab plugin?
golden gust
That error is your file permissions or something
peak kite
@golden gust if you are talking about My post, read back farther, i know, you are right, i set the world files to read only intentionally to see what would happen.
drifting glacier
golden gust
oh
past tulip
peak kite
now if you wanna mod papermc for me so it can dump all the world changes and output files to a different location, tha'd be great, oh and don't forget to bypass the lock file, all world files need to be read from a location different(and read only) than the world files to be written.
limber knotBOT
how live is it supposed to be
peak kite
another server is running the live
golden gust
Paper has some level of support for that already
Not really intended for proper world usage, however
peak kite
its just to serve the latest world changes from another copy of papermc to dynmap, and the papermc running dynmap would take all the changes it wants to make to the world files and throws them into a blackwhole.
woven otter
so this is paper
upper flicker
🦆
woven otter
🌮
limber knotBOT
Another reason why we should've stayed on IRC
woven otter
shut up
peak kite
The only reason its possible is becasue the only way the second papermc with dynmap reading readonly worlds would work, is because the ONLY output I am using is the tile renderer output from dynmap, im not even using dynmaps other folders, im only using the file output setting in dynmaps renderer. If I have dynmap issues when it comes to getting the primary one to read the secondary file data... i will seek out mike prem, the plugin maker. But papermc needs to first read world files from a read only nas.
what do you mean electroniccat? some support?
limber knotBOT
Yes. Can't recall where but you can define a different directory for worlds to be saved
peak kite
And still be read from a location not being saved to?
If i knew anything about making plugins and proxying data between java programs, i would proxy the plugin somehow.
fallen oracle
So the issue is the one machine isn't strong enough to handle it?
peak kite
Lol, get a better machine.
fallen oracle
Well your other option is you could have it do it via MySQL, and then just hook into the MySQL database on the other machine to grab the map.
peak kite
uhh... thats the return data.. the data being served to dynmap dosen't come from the mysql?
runic crater
peak kite
isn't that only for the dynmap tile data after its rendered.
fallen oracle
¯_(ツ)_/¯
fallen oracle
Don't know all the details
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
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peak kite
Perhaps im not explaining it well.
fallen oracle
You're wanting to run tiles and live player data on another machine that the machine that is running the server.
peak kite
just tiles.\
fallen oracle
Okay if it's tiles, then mysql would work
peak kite
ok, but what runs the tile renderer?
peak kite
i want the tile renderer on another pc
fallen oracle
Doesn't seem logistically possible.
The tile updates won't be really that intensive. Just the inital full world render.
peak kite
Actaully, i was hoping for that.
shell ginkgo
peak kite
So if a full render went bad, i could run it again elsewhere.
fallen oracle
Okay, copy the world and plugin over to the other machine, then just run the render there.
peak kite
I do that now, just trying to avoid the copy.
marble summit
limber knotBOT
where can I download this
celest coyote
do you guys know of any redstone builds which use a bunch of boats
or any builds in general which use a bunch of boats
acoustic pilot
lol these turds really bringing back this debate https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/08/post-snowden-tech-became-more-secure-but-is-govt-really-at-risk-of-going-dark/
limber knotBOT
I heard only hackers use encryption
I have nothing to gide
hide
shit how do I hide that typo
acoustic pilot
yeah I dont want us to end up like Australia
limber knotBOT
I just hope VPNs don't die on us
they're far more at risk than encryption in general
acoustic pilot
in Australia there is a law where the govt can compel private industry to implement backdoors
peak kite
Ok, fine, but what stops that backdoor from getting into the wrong hands?
limber knotBOT
australia is extremely backwards tech-wise
also I don't think the gvt cares about encryption becoming compromised
not their problem
peak kite
1 person with a lock is far more secure that an entire database on a supposedly protected internet server by some so called elite 3 letter acronym.
peak kite
If such encryption wasn't strong and possible to keep .. how would the enforcement keep the locks....locked? seriously.. think about it.
so they want their backdoors to be broken then too??
celest coyote
but muh national security
unkempt drift
limber knotBOT
we need to seize the means of production so we can destroy the government and institute a monarchic anarchy
acoustic pilot
Seems this is mostly annoying for law enforcement because they can't force people to unlock passworded phones, although they can force them to unlock biometrically protected phone.
celest coyote
so apparently dolphins can beach themselves and hop around on land
acoustic pilot
A password exists in your mind, so fifth amendment protections apply
But something like a fingerprint or eye scan is cool lol
And since phones are encrypted, I guess this makes them sad
limber knotBOT
real talk I don't get why phones don't do user accounts
there should be login layers
celest coyote
im waiting till neuralink is a commerical product and then ill encrypt everything with my brain waves
limber knotBOT
unlock with your face and get access to the first layer where next to nothing gets stored
peak kite
this is a dumb argument, they know the answer is detectives.. he needs to go back to that line of work again and see how it all really works.
acoustic pilot
it's true that having total access to the device might make their investigation easier, but it comes at the cost of 300 million people's privacy
it's not a fair price
limber knotBOT
just a shame it's not clever enough to autoallocate stuff to the right layer
heady blaze
worn ember
if they have backdoors, just put a chair under the knob
its a simple spell, but quite unbreakable
acoustic pilot
this is how it all starts...
Holy Grail supercomputer ‘will have human-level artificial intelligence’ in just 5 years
the AI uprising, soon
acoustic pilot
There are a lot of variables in Dota that fall into the skill factor
For AI to be sufficiently trained to beat a professional DotA player would be a big achievement, IMO
worn ember
yes it is
acoustic pilot
But can it do it consistently 😃
worn ember
no
peak kite
So once something shows promise, someone will start making trick ai competitions. (i should start a site for it)
worn ember
pro players adapt to their playstyle
acoustic pilot
That concept already sorta exists
worn ember
faster than the ai can adapt to theirs
acoustic pilot
SaltyBet is one site
There are a few others, but they aren't "trick" sites, everyone knows it's AI vs AI
And there's no real currency in the betting
There was a Salty Dota stream at some point, not sure if it's still going
But it was the SaltyBet concept applied to Dota
worn ember
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) OpenAI vs HUMANS - AI vs 99.95% BEST PLAYERS 5v5 DOTA 2 - length 18m 53s - 6,357 likes, 491 dislikes (92.8%) - 984,975 views - NoobFromUA on 2018.08.05
worn ember
its highlights i think lol
worn ember
they did get rekt tho
vestal jasper
well the entire thing isn't highlights of one game
they won first match in like 21 minutes
with 6 minutes of highlights
worn ember
its 2 games
in both they got pretty much rekt
21 minutes for a dota game is quite fast
games easily reach 35-50 minutes
vestal jasper
acoustic pilot
yeah my games are usually 40-50mins
15-20mins 90% of the time is going to be a very one-sided match
vestal jasper
I guess turret health and buybacks lengthen game time
league it's usually 20-35 minutes
worn ember
buybacks can easily turn a game if used right, so yeah
they can lengthen the game quite a bit
also theres no surrender in normal matchmaking
vestal jasper
and teleport scrolls
worn ember
yeah lmfao
they just group and gank lanes
i guess its nice if you have no emotions
no tilting, no stress
just numbers and probabilities
vestal jasper
You also have instant unanimous decision making
vestal jasper
worn ember
to about 30ms
acoustic pilot
can anyone play against these AI or you gotta have special access or something
worn ember
special access
worn ember
there will probably show it again at the next TI this month
acoustic pilot
this is probably very desirable for esports training lol
worn ember
i think so yeah haha
acoustic pilot
bet esports teams would wanna practice with it
worn ember
i mean, if you practice enough you can beat them
they just have a very different playstyle to what you're used to
vestal jasper
The humans did better game 2
worn ember
yeah
vestal jasper
first part of the game they were MUCH closer
worn ember
the thing is, the ai thinks as one
while humans are on different levels of understanding
so it can make decisions a lot faster
and coordinate a lot better
vestal jasper
You also have instant unanimous decision making
Someone appears and they all attack it at the same time
acoustic pilot
they should def replace the builtin AI with this version
vestal jasper
or add a new difficulty
worn ember
they just go 5man push mid from min 5
acoustic pilot
haha they shit talk too
We estimate the probability of winning to be above 99%.
I suppose shit talk is a strategy too
Humans are emotional
worn ember
q
wide chasm
Or r.
wide chasm
Distance from b to d in the latin alphabet is two, same for p to r.
worn ember
:))
austere ivy
q is, and it's the easier answer, yes.
worn ember
i have a riddle
he has 140 iq, is awesome, and everyone loves him.
yes you're correct, its me
static badge
iq of 40 perhaps
worn ember
leafy, shhh
limber knotBOT
no I did not know this
celest coyote
You would have to be more thsn 10 standard deviations from the mean tk be negative iq
Its is insanely dumb
void void
well, went to a pond an hour away to have a swim on the advice of my brother
get there, start swimming
property owner shows up, yells at us for being on his property and calls us retarded for ignoring the signs
(there were no signs where i entered)
and that's how that ended
limber knotBOT
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worn ember
@void void i once went to a field with my friends and it was right next to a large street. Our smart asses started a giant fire. Popo showed up on the street. But couldnt enter the property, we ran into the woods never to be seen again lmfao
void void
rip
worn ember
this is why i'm 140 iq
void void
well the dude threatened to call the police but we were out of there because the mf turned his back the second time after he was on the phone like https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/960/082/cac.jpg
worn ember
there was also a car graveyard next to it, so we took the fire extinguishers and had a powder fight
void void
lul
worn ember
those were good times
void void
-.-
acoustic pilot
it's amazing that nobody has managed to put out an actually high quality skyblock plugin
considering it's one of the most popular game modes lol
i mean ASkyBlock could be described as possibly one of the worst plugins ever created, and yet for a while it was king of the SkyBlock plugin area
merry talon
There's like 20 of them
acoustic pilot
they all suck ass
merry talon
They all suck?
acoustic pilot
ye
merry talon
lul
void void
if i even knew what the fuck the gamemode was supposed to be
golden gust
^^
acoustic pilot
i mean the ones that don't suck on the surface still have very bad flaws underneath
void void
i would make a decent one
void void
yeah so you get an island and you place blocks right how hard could it be to make such a plugin ??
acoustic pilot
it's a really simple game mode actually
void void
why do people suck at it
acoustic pilot
the fundamentals, any way
just a grid of islands, each player gets an island, they expand it and build whatever they want, everything else is small details.
peak kite
do they get to shoot cannons at eachother?
acoustic pilot
it mostly revolves around PvE
with an eco and all that
people build mob grinders, farm loot etc
little vine
pew pew pew
acoustic pilot
but those are just small details, the core skyblock plugin revolves around managing the islands themselves
which like simple said, should be very simple
but somehow plugins fail spectacularly at doing this cleanly or efficiently
little vine
Some plugins use their own custom chunk generator to do it (create/load the islands)
acoustic pilot
yeah i mean that's fine
void void
well im working on other shit but honestly it shouldnt be so rare that they are fucking up that badly lol
(i havent tried so im going off yalls word)
i mean
it should be rare
little vine
honestly the two skyblock plugins ive used i cant stand because of the devs
my co-owner tried his hand at his own version, and it was pretty good but im probably biased because hes a really good friend of mine
void void
lul
acoustic pilot
There's ASkyBlock, BSkyBlock, uSkyBlock and FabledSkyBlock. They all suck lol
little vine
we ended up abandoning our own plugin for askyblock
void void
songoda made fabledskyblock or something right
little vine
and then bskyblock but i have my own opinion about that and its not positive
acoustic pilot
Yeah they acquired the plugin
celest coyote
dew it
acoustic pilot
I guess they got it from the original author
celest coyote
I just realized boats don't respect maxentity collisions
acoustic pilot
Anyone wanting a good premium plugin idea, that'd probably be it lol
acoustic pilot
A good skyblock plugin would probably do good on the Spigot market
little vine
askyblock was better than bskyblock (imho)
alot of the features in askyblock are missing in bskyblock and its infuriating
acoustic pilot
unfortunately ASkyBlock's code is very unpleasant to work with so I know why the author ditched it
but also unfortunately, BSkyBlock's code isn't much of an improvement
fallen oracle
Lol
acoustic pilot
maybe he'll get it right in CSkyBlock
merry talon
choco 
peak kite
i mean i tried it --world-dir and the second instance from a different directory TOOK control over the world and caused the initial instance to go crazy demanding its world files back.
ivory light
limber knotBOT
is there a way to do the guardian ray attack without using NMS?
I just want the effect to go from arbitrary point A to arbitrary point B
celest coyote
I recall someone saying its client side
peak kite
Wow, the large mountains have secret bases with lava at the bottom and some kinda scaffolding above the lava...
peak kite
who needs power plants when you can dig down and use magma to power the world?
limber knotBOT
AHA
found the menu throwing Title not set errors on every plugin ever
it's the anvil menu (specifically the one from the pets plugin)
fallen oracle
There's like 100 of them, which one?
vestal jasper
Well marketed and never stable
austere ivy
uhhh
you know what's a big no u reverse uno card?
cardboard.
it's 100% extraordinarily stable but I just can't market it well enough :(
share with your friends help it get some traction
holy guac cold brew coffee is good
I think I'm a tad hyper right now
alright then
off to work
acoustic pilot
cold brew is also the easiest kind of coffee to make "good" 😃
it's very hard to mess up.
cold brew is often made out of old / low quality beans because of this
peak kite
i wonder if the cold brew was stored in cardboard
acoustic pilot
All you need is coarsly ground beans soaked in a mason jar overnight, filter out in a sieve or something. That's literally it 😃
peak kite
u could try filtering it with cardboard
peak kite
yeup, he filtered it with cardboard.
merry talon
we have a special roast for it
acoustic pilot
give or take, some people do 48, some do 18, some do 8
probably depends on the grind itself as well
finer can probably be "ready" sooner
merry talon
yeah not sure what setting we do it at
peak kite
one time I filtered coffee with brown paper towels. it tasted like cardboard.
i was on watch, couldn't leave
merry talon
because brown paper towels are just raw paper lol
acoustic pilot
cold brew is good because you can make a lot in bulk, but i prefer iced coffee more
mixed with some condensed sweetened milk and chocolate syrup 😄
merry talon
its nice because we dont have to dump it every 15 minutes :p
which we dont usually end up doing anyway because that's stupid
acoustic pilot
yeah i mean you could store it in jars in the fridge for a while, great for a lot of people
no waiting to brew
void void
HELLO
acoustic pilot
hm, i actually have some like 2 month old beans, too old to brew, but still good enough for cold brew probably
Whee, today is Chateau FFA on Arcade when it switches in a little over an hour. It's pretty sad that I have the Arcade FFA schedule memorized 😦
merry talon
chateau sucks ass
acoustic pilot
fuk u
austere ivy
Best thing about cold brew..
is what I do..
well, my sister does (and I share)
We got a somewhat big (larger than normal) mason jar type of a container with a spout at the bottom.
We brew a large batch and then store it, and it lasts for like a week.
It's fast since instead of waiting for your morning coffee to brew, you just open the spout and let the wonderful coffee flow.
It's pretty nice.
merry talon
PaperMC has developed the world's most advanced AI
We get paid by the government to keep it on the DL
dapper nacelle
fall damage is calculated by the time the entity is in the air and falling
is there a way to reset this timer
tulip lotus
Do you guys know how to work with worldedit? I just want to make a circle under my feet, not a sphere
possible?
tulip lotus
lol
winter sundial
//cyl
austere ivy
Huh.
peak kite
geez, sharing the dynmap tile folder over nas is faster than local ssd, damn slow server... (eyeballs world files)
merry talon
NVMe cache over fabric I'm guessing 
cedar herald
Just found this on spigot its funny to me at least
peak kite
pro ssd sata6Gb/s over gigabit ethernet......but i think samsung's ram disk feature (RAPID) makes it fast. Still want to put Nvme in there.
peak kite
3.6ghz of it. i suppose..
fallen oracle
Did spigot up their CloudFlare security? I seem to get the please wait 5 seconds way too often now
static badge
make sure you're not actually a robot
void void
Well, I think I'm a bit fucked. As per apples own instructions to get off the fucking beta. You remove Catalina after having made a new install disk. And this thing works but it gives me an error code I can't find anything about. And now I've no computer.
I'm. Actually kinda freaking out.
It won't fucking install again. And I don't know what to do with this particular hardware.
limber knotBOT
Might i suggest crying?
void void
Yeah thanks.
placid thicket
is anyone experiencing an issue with villagers not breeding in 156?
merry talon
this is kind of not good
they gotta either be neutral or go after like everyone
but I'm a little conflicted because this is a particularly extreme case
deep lagoon
tough goblet
welcome @deep lagoon
I need help, I am not sure how to distribute a server. I need a Majority vote, so if you have time, please answer:https://forms.gle/4gF5WERjtKycvdSD6
void void
merry talon
er, wat
void void
wintry helm
cobalt hawk
peak kite
hey thats an idea, run a backup plugin tool to dump the live world so it can be rendered on another papermc computer once backup is complete.
limber knotBOT
hnn
dry needle
cerulean thicket
[23:12:55 WARN]: Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running 282691ms or 5653 ticks behind
dear lord, please save me from this hell
peak kite
you running a map renderer or something?
cerulean thicket
nope, 1.14.4 is having a stroke loading chunks or something
every inactivity dump i get has something to do with chunks
no plugin stacktraces
it says i shouldn't be reporting it to paper so i don't want to look like a dunce opening an issue buti literally can't find any reponsible plugins
peak kite
well, i would imagine thats paper help.. just dont make a bug issue in github if you don't think its a bug, is probably what they mean.
hot gorge
Simple, you made a boot disk on a USB drive?
young osprey
void void
yes @hot gorge
fallen oracle
summer parrot
That error appears in the console, after that the server shuts down. How can I solve it?
void void
First of all, delete that and go to #paper-help.
Secondly, it's not a paper bug or crash. The server is just taking a long time to do something.
Thirdly, use a paste site (https://pastie.io) in the future for large texts as no one wants to read that.
peak kite
even a screenshot of text is better... skroller.
vocal arch
dim epoch
Hi! Does anyone know; can you enable just a subcommand with permission?
Like I don't want players to use /time set but to be able to use /time query daytime
limber knotBOT
depends on which plugin you use for the time command
dim epoch
Normal, minecraft one
limber knotBOT
don't think you can for that one
essentials has different permissions for getting and setting the time
dim epoch
Yeah, I don't have essentials so I thought I could do it with default commands.
Thanks anyways
peak kite
Nice, when rendering the tiles on a different computer, (the world files were able to be copied live right after a save, the render output is set to dump to the nas where the server also has it set to read the tiles from. It works live. And the server instantly shows less load .. it might be from seeing the tile is already generated, or a tile hash or both. This was from generating new land, and not running any command.
Are there issues to copying the world files while the server is running, or should you only copy them from a server plugin backup not live?
violet bolt
limber knotBOT
there seems to be a version on spigot https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/creeperheal.13346/
core duo inside
oh have a cpu from 2006?
you*
celest coyote
2009 had core 2 dous
peak kite
It runs alright for a few users..
heady spear
Guys I want to buy a $2000 lens can y’all send me money? Thanks
vestal jasper
I'll send you 2 cents
wide chasm
Why would you need money from us, don't you already have enough with the amount of donations you got for PlotSquared? /s
cedar spade
"I want to pay my rent pls send $$$"
peak kite
Prolly runs as slow as my laptop.
heady spear
I want more money not just PlotSquared money
I don’t have that money anymore so it’s useless
celest coyote
not happening, would be unmaintainable
tardy lynx
true
cedar spade
someone on my server genuinely asked "can't you just port 1.14 to 1.13"
tardy lynx
btw I fixed the blue lava
celest coyote
What was the issue
tardy lynx
Need to send the tags packet
celest coyote
You were using a protocol hack wernt you
tardy lynx
kinda
celest coyote
Smh
peak kite
soon that will be localhost
worn ember
Shouldve been ::1
limber knotBOT
I am eying with several displates too, they look cool
worn ember
Are they high quality though
peak kite
i think it might be too much for 4 gig of ram,, /wb set 2000 2000
cedar spade
I mean, there's not much correlation between max world size and RAM unless you somehow have the entire world loaded at once
peak kite
oh, i just figured thats why i have lots of ram use.. due to bigger worlds. perhaps its some leftover thing .
barren patrol
dusk drift
anyone by any chance in the world has a Corsair Glaive?
woven otter
https://i.imgur.com/WYdScrR.png
@heady spear 
That happened in about 1 min lol
celest coyote
wtf
pulsar wigeon
shit bot should just ban ppl
peak kite
heh, chunk filling empty void...
......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmfWJhYranw
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Sandra Bullock - Gravity- The best scene- - length 2m 49s - 1,082 likes, 95 dislikes (91.9%) - 323,111 views - Aitor Martin on 2014.11.17
fallen oracle
Shit. Yeah, spigot updated it's CloudFlare protection.
limber knotBOT
its just in attack mode from the looks of it
fallen oracle
Wonder if he'll turn it off. It broke our bots.
limber knotBOT
smth smth you are not allowed to access spigot using bots anyways
what do they do?
fallen oracle
We let people link their spigot account to discord so we can verify if they are buyers for specific plugins.
limber knotBOT
you better implement a manual verification backup queue then 😂
fallen oracle
We do have a manual way, yes.
Just took us a few hours to realize it was spigots side and not ours.
Big sorry
👀
When Minecraft is work
Throwback to when resource staff actually looked at premium plugins.
wide shoal
My favorite discord verification was typing the paypal email you used to purchase the plugin.
fallen oracle
lol what
That's sad
You can set your discord on spigot so we just have them do that, then we run a check and it checks their spigot ID against buyer list for multiple plugins and gives roles.
That means you have to generate stuff
Yuck
void void
fallen oracle
We actually made a sensible solution.
wide shoal
Agree on that, code in profile is the most annoying
woven otter
barty bucks 🤔 sounds like a scam
wide chasm
🎉
late bridge
limber knotBOT
barty: tried turning it off and on again?
cedar spade
so tempted to rip out and rewrite the kit code for essx
woven otter
is it terrible
cedar spade
I have no fucking clue how it works and half the comments don't make any sense
// For some reason, YAML doesn't sees keys as always lowercase even if they aren't defined like that.
There's the Kits class which reads/writes kits from/to the config file, and the Kit class, which checks player permissions/cooldowns and spawns in the items
now guess what you think Kits#getKit does
limber knotBOT
Returns a Kit instance?
cedar spade
Too obvious
cedar spade
It does some wizardry to work around a snakeyaml bug that the comments try and fail to explain, and returns a Map of the contents of that kit's config section
wide chasm
inb4 that bug is already solved
cedar spade
I think the bug is that ConfigurationSection#isConfigurationSection and #getConfigurationSection don't know how casing works, and the solution is to lowercase the section name before passing it to those methods
can I rewrite EssentialsX with configurate-hocon yet
also here's a gem from that method
} else {
}
lunar zenith
Java is stupid anyway
Lua FTW :>
wide chasm
Ehh
lunar zenith
three lines of code for a command
cedar spade
does that count all the code that someone else wrote for you to be able to do that?
wide chasm
Less does not always mean better
lunar zenith
er, no :P
but I mean you can also do java with it if you feel like it
it allows you to import classes
cedar spade
Commands.create()
.handler(c -> c. sendMessage("Hello " + c. sender().getName()))
.register(this, "hello");
three lines
...plus a 1.4MB library plugin
wide chasm
Oof
lunar zenith
how many lines of regular java to create a command
lunar zenith
without the lib I mean
wide chasm
Depends on how you go about it, but about ten or so?
It's just a class and a method, plus a package decl. And some imports.
lunar zenith
although ig lukkit is 10mb so
cedar spade
My point proven
wide chasm
You can write all Java code on one line though, but whatever.
cedar spade
(the example was luck's helper, which includes lots of other utilities and you can use it with any JVM language)
lunar zenith
iirc that is possible with Lua
cedar spade
Sure, but you don't need Lua to write code on 3 lines
limber knotBOT
I think you can write all lua code on one line as well
peak kite
Canyon generator works in 1.14,,, https://www.spigotmc.org/attachments/rsz_jo2-jpg.406996/ https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/canyon-world-generator-1-13-1-14-4.65147/
hmm.. looks like spigotmc.org is turning into thousands of pages of ADS.
"We decide to make 1.13 version and all next as a premium plugin."
fallen oracle
Oh shit so CloudFlare went through with removing 8chan from their services.
Yesterday it was up in the air.
void void
pulsar wigeon
premium plugins, he means
peak kite
yes, tons of free ones are all going payware for 1.13 and up.
ocean ether
Scam 😂
wide chasm
Spigot has ads if you're not logged in
peak kite
This one says its free, and that you can still download it free, but when you do, it tells you that you can't use it if you have 1.14 and will disable its self.
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/libs-disguises.81/
"hey, you can drive this car for free, but its locked behind a door that says only owners can drive it, but really, its free." i feel like my head is going to explode.
https://pics.awwmemes.com/nuclear-head-explosion-meme-generator-imgflip-53145787.png
peak kite
ok, let me downgrade everything real quick to 1.13.2, ... no.. closes libsdisguises page.
pulsar wigeon
that's not what it says at all
gilded cradle
peak kite
Hey, now cmon, thats fair, just don't call it free.
grizzled stirrup
fallen oracle
Welcome.
peak kite
Is the free version 1.13.2 only?
golden gust
it's open source
You can literally go rip out the checks if you want
I mean, I'd suggest supporting the dev if they're proving stuff that you use on their server, but 🤷
pulsar wigeon
yea not only do they offer free builds (without the "extra features"), it's open source so you can rip the checks out and get the extra features for free too
just in case you want to be extra scummy
peak kite
sorry. I didnt even try to search for any repo for it... just figured it was odd. https://github.com/libraryaddict/LibsDisguises
pulsar wigeon
the repo is literally linked on the resource page
cedar spade
since when were fish entities projectiles
limber knotBOT
what?
Ah man
$8 is nothing
but why are fireworks no projectiles (in nms they are, but not in bukkit)
cedar spade
are fish projectiles in nms? I only saw Bukkit
peta would like to have a word with md_five
cedar spade
huh, working on a PR and IntelliJ thinks all the fish are
I dug deeper and I can't see why they show up
peta would like to have a word with jetbrainsw
limber knotBOT
do you use bukkit/spigot/paper before 1.13?
i think in 1.12 the FishHook was named Fish
but it was the hook
https://i.imgur.com/RAYi6cA.png (cod also shows up)
compiling against bukkit 1.13.2, but might be related to having bukkit/cb 1.8 in another module's classpath
yes probably
void void
peak kite
Does the libsdisguises dev copy they link, work as free in 1.14 ? I tried it and it said it was pay only. I must compile it?
acoustic basin
@peak kite i can compile for you if you want
my frend always has trouble with compelling idk why, works for me
wait nvm it isnt gradlew
limber knotBOT
Does anyone have the up-to-date documentation for paper? I was looking at the paper.yml and https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/paper-1.11/config/ and it is missing some things, and contains outdated things.
https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/stable/server/configuration.html this might be a bit more updates
peak kite
gah.. i can wait.. https://jenkins.io/doc/tutorials/build-a-java-app-with-maven/
limber knotBOT
Thanks, hopeful that helps
golden gust
Yeaaaaaa, the docs kinda need updating (Contributors welcome)
limber knotBOT
i can give you money on my server :D
peak kite
@acoustic basin i can see why you stopped at no gradlew , thanks for the offer anyway https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41310629/how-to-download-jar-file-from-github-source-code
limber knotBOT
if you want to build a (non premium) libsdisguises, you have to clone the repository, patch out the premium checks and then compile it. if you don't know how to do that it might be simpler to buy it :D
peak kite
Or not use it. Simplest. I can see the dude/et is / are cool, they eventually compile it free once enough versions are out, i mean, 1.13.2 works right? I never thought to do that with rev updates to firmware,... hmm, a dev elite?
limber knotBOT
yes i think he will update the free version at some time
gilded shell
void void
limber knotBOT
Nope
But I just use standard US QWERTY
Nope, but I use a mac
On that note, I wish I could use firefox on my mac again :(
Latest macOS beta killed it
Why can't you?
Ahh
peak kite
When I was running papermc and found the obfuscated jar (fly.jar, etc virus) plugin doing high bandwidth network transfers, I found this near spawn. Did it store data in the form of block type?
I dug the hole into it. But thats it.
shell vine
void void
Yep. Same Amaranth.
That's why I tried to downgrade back to Mojave yesterday but failed spectacularly
Whoever said that, that's a stupid comment
limber knotBOT
reboot reinstall reformat
peak kite
that order might cause soem issues.
void void
Yeah, I backed up, rebooted, reformatted, but it didn't want to anything to do with me regarding reinstalling the older version. Kept getting a cryptic error code that I could find no info for (-1008, -2002). So thank gawd for @golden gust the key combo he gave just reinstalled the beta.
golden gust
I mean, it should just work
peak kite
golden gust
you might have to take the shot and go grab the earliest release and upgrade
sacred wigeon
limber knotBOT
I'm just using Chrome until the next beta, I guess
I'd use Safari but the beta also broke all extensions for it
It also broke my VPN client so good times
At least virtualbox still works so I can work
pulsar wigeon
LUL
upper flicker
Yeah there's a few apps with that bug
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super smol
upper flicker
There's also the whole "Firefox crashes on startup"
That Apple has already said is their fault and they'll fix
pulsar wigeon
is catalina out or is this some beta
upper flicker
It's betas
pulsar wigeon
ah ok
pulsar wigeon
hence this crowd\
yea
honestly the worst thing about the paper community
after barty's loot crates, anyway
is the amount of mac users
upper flicker
It's all the windows users man
Have like 15% of servers running on Windows or something
Super spooky
upper flicker
I mean you get a pretty tolerable Unix dev environment out of it
upper flicker
Versus windows which literally had to duct tape Linux onto it to get anyone devs to want to use it
upper flicker
Super small percentage
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that'd be hilarious tbh :>
upper flicker
Just casual home people pretty much
tardy lynx
is anyone running solaris?
upper flicker
Yes
pulsar wigeon
yea that makes sense
upper flicker
Or a Solaris deriv, not actual Solaris
upper flicker
There's a small percentage of Windows home users as wel
Tbh Mac servers don't make much sense outside of managing Macs
Though I'd say the same thing about a Windows server
Sooooo
tardy lynx
"small percentage" - 9.4%
pulsar wigeon
eh
windows servers make sense for running windows software
it's the windows software that doesn't make sense
thanks bstats very useful
what's "Windows" vs "NT"?
upper flicker
Probably some issue with parsing whatever data point on xyz versions
pulsar wigeon
NT is new technology
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instead of during the day
upper flicker
NT is the kernel name so I just assume some data point is getting misparsed
pulsar wigeon
yea somehow
tardy lynx
15.9% of servers on 1.8.8
peak kite
I rendered so many tiles my server crashed becasue the entire drive filled completely.
celest coyote
apple killed off OSX server
void void
you seem to underestimate the stupidity of the minecraft ecosystem
limber knotBOT
when was the combat change
celest coyote
its really really niche
tardy lynx
Doesn't it have a ton of bugs and dupes?
cedar spade
might be due to a weird JVM that reports "Windows NT"?
upper flicker
Maybe but it's old old old
So it'd have to be an older JVM impl not one of the many new hipster ones
cedar spade
I don't know why anything after 2000/XP would report NT
upper flicker
Windows NT refers to the kernel windows runs on
upper flicker
There was an ancient release of Windows named NT to celebrate the underlying architecture change
But if you can get java anything modern running on that I'd be impressed
limber knotBOT
I think NT and non-NT were in development simultaneously for some time
upper flicker
They were yeah
cedar spade
SunOS 5.11 is the best Minecraft server OS
upper flicker
They were released alongside one another for a short time
I think NT was being used only by server and msdos remained consumer until they had it all finalized and tested
But I might be flipping that around
golden gust
Yea, NT basically took over with like 2000 was it?
upper flicker
Because msdos on the server was potato af
golden gust
And then they wrapped it into consumer versions with xp
upper flicker
So they really wanted it gone
hot gorge
2000 Professional was NT
golden gust
Yea
hot gorge
Which laid the groundwork for XP
limber knotBOT
ME and XP share some features which aren't in 2k
golden gust
I just gotta let you know that
limber knotBOT
system restore
golden gust
Your active desktop is not functioning properly
limber knotBOT
classic I remember that
hot gorge
I had 2000 Advanced Server run on my slotA Athelon and it was miserable
Windows ME was hot trash imo
limber knotBOT
my pc -> mc -> server -> paperd -> docker -> my spring app -> console
not so bad delay after all
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germans
limber knotBOT
now lets turn that into my pc -> mc -> server -> paperd -> docker -> my spring app -> websockets -> my browser
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can't even english
limber knotBOT
I am really growing to dislike aternos
limber knotBOT
dislike is something that has no upper ceiling
pulsar wigeon
"growing to dislike .." is not the same as "my dislike for .. is growing"
growing to dislike means you weren't, but are getting there
dislike is growing means you already did and it's increasing
pulsar wigeon
there's apparently a few of them now
i'm surprised it's a sustainable business model tbh
limber knotBOT
idk the ins and outs of it but it's not a bad idea to attract users to a limited free version and then sell them an unlocked version when they want to make the switch
pulsar wigeon
oh, is that a thing?
i thought it was purely ad driven
didn't realize there was a pay-version
that makes sense then
limber knotBOT
aternos users tend to be the least technically savvy so can imagine that they wouldn't even know how to switch to another provider
pulsar wigeon
right
limber knotBOT
mind you not saying that's necessarily that one's strategy but I'd be surprised if that's not the perfect mix if you want to make ez money
limit player count to 10 or 20 and don't let them download/upload plugin jars and maybe also worlds
give them a pittance worth of RAM
then push them for the upgrade
especially if they want to do a bungee setup
charred hound
merry talon
it isn't sustainable lul
someone is just eating most of the cost of a couple boxes I imagine
worn ember
@pulsar wigeon my pp is growing (to dislike you)
sturdy fulcrum
Minehut cloning huh
sturdy fulcrum
Mine
sturdy fulcrum
I’d say the opposite
Never heard of aternos until now
Either way both would never be something I’d use if I wanted to host a server
I like to be in control
Ask my wife
tulip lotus
Guys, what plugins do you guys use for kits?
sturdy fulcrum
I don’t even own a server I’m just joking
I have a test server that’s better than most public servers though
Pretty sad
spiral drift
golden gust
am hope I get an anvil 2 drop on u wehn ur afk
limber knotBOT
is paper 1.14.4 out yet?
fallen oracle
...
limber knotBOT
man you're out of the loop nisse
we're not dong 1.14.4 anymore, we all collectively decided to go back to 1.8.8
cool
winter sundial
Smh everyone uses paper 1.6.4 these days
limber knotBOT
smd who isn't running infdev nowadays
celest coyote
whats a mob that a jumps alot
pulsar wigeon
leaf jumps a lot
fallen oracle
Rabbit
limber knotBOT
Guys, I need the most pressing 1.14 mojira tickets for performance, Helen asks so she can send them to Cory to prioritize
celest coyote
REMOVE ALL THE STREAMS
limber knotBOT
Do you have links to ticks?
golden gust
No, my browsers history keeps screwing me with mojangs site
limber knotBOT
He have villagers noted, like pillagers and jobs
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like their spawning is out of control and their perf is meh
and the chunk system
those are the 3 big boys for 1.14
limber knotBOT
Do you have specifics about chunks? Like, she wants mojira issues she can just hand to Cory
static badge
ah
let's see
get the fucking io off the main thread
get the fucking deserialization off the main thread
static badge
no
pulsar wigeon
"MC-15999 Perf sux"
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also prioritize shit
like for sync loads at least
those are the big boys of the chunk system currently
not all of the perf issues but the big boys addressed by my pr
there's also serialization too
limber knotBOT
What's your discord hash? You should just tell her yourself, lol
celest coyote
just steal leaf's PR
fallen oracle
But like, they are asking for jira tickets
limber knotBOT
It's fine, last time we just took notes too
static badge
devs are smart enough to deal with notes anyways :>
fallen oracle
But yeah, the main thread stuff is a big issue currently
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serialization/deserialization hits hard too
fallen oracle
What's wrong with all their streams?
fallen oracle
Than?