bich window and mccree are the #1 and #2 hardest counters to my one-trick ass in the game
#general
harsh juniper
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uh oh
tropic flame
weeb invasion alert
tropic flame
I hope the free waifu can cook
vestal jasper
leaf BTFO
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ripperoni
acoustic pilot
did leaf lose? well he bad so expected
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tilt waaay too easily
merry talon
1-1
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gg
vestal jasper
he won 5-0 first game then lost 2-8 second game
acoustic pilot
fuck all widow players, hate them more than moiras
vestal jasper
D:
merry talon
first game was warm up 
merry talon
I think that's just because you suck and cant counter widow
acoustic pilot
that would be a complete waste of my time lmao
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back up that trash :>
vestal jasper
leaf 1v1 me I'll give you free wins
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Spottedleaf#11590
merry talon
3 player ffa mercy
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let's make it a 4 ffa with byte 
merry talon
acoustic pilot
no point playing a FFA stacked with my top 3 counters lol
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xeranis
merry talon
spot ur in bc
vestal jasper
sis
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no
byte
we're literally gonna be playing mercy
you can play lucio
:>
you'll still lose too
vestal jasper
LUL
acoustic pilot
loool
acoustic pilot
yeah ill play if im not just going up against sombras, widows and mccrees lol
vestal jasper
I fucking bet
If I died a bunch to literally any other hero I'd honor them
if I died a bunch to widow I'd uninstall
acoustic pilot
but do it like now or not because chateau is going out of rotation in 2 hours and i wanna get matches in
vestal jasper
we're sitting in lobby
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LUL
harsh sparrow
merry zealot
what's a disk management software you guys would recommend?
worn ember
the default one?
merry zealot
one that i can remove "system preserved" or "boot" partitions with...
i know gparted is a pretty good one
or at least
widely used
void void
ye, gparted is just a distro that has parted installed. so parted is what i recommend, whatever way you use it
can boot into arch iso and just run parted
merry zealot
I'd have to make a whole arch installation :\
merry zealot
oh fair
charred hound
what's the best way to backup a single database from mariadb running inside docker, do I have to backup the whole container?
merry zealot
This trick requires you have a Linux system installed on your hard drive.
acoustic pilot
the proper way to backup mysql/mariadb is always mysqldump
void void
idk what you're reading but you definitely do not need to install linux to use parted
merry zealot
no i figured
void void
yup docker exec -it mysqldump -u <user> -p <database> > out.sql
charred hound
awesome thanks
merry zealot
is VirtualBox a good option to boot live iso? @void void
void void
you're not gonna be able to access the host disks thru vb, so no
vestal jasper
merry zealot
I saw MobaLiveCD? @void void
void void
but you need to have full unrestricted access to the host to format the way you want to.
so you have to burn a disk, shut down, boot disk
do the thing, shutdown
boot back into windows
merry zealot
so... rufus time
void void
yup
merry zealot
since I don't have an optical drive, let alone have a front/externally accessible drive bay
void void
i just have kek loads of disks with different distros and utils on them
did them years ago
yea, then usb
void void
mr kek*
merry zealot
lamo
LMAO that's perfect
me installing easeus partition manager
that's literally everything in the program folder
where's the actual application
what the hell
merry zealot
why didn't it make a .lnk
worn ember
bin for bin
unreal quarry
windows users dont know bin ^_^
void void
kek
merry zealot
I know bin shush but it didn't make a start menu shortcut
nor a shortcut in the folder itself
which literally every windows program normally does
void void
maybe they support windows only because they have to, so they make you do some work as a result 
worn ember
no
acoustic pilot
that's like 10x more damage than leaf can do with widow in a single match
worn ember
weeb game
ancient bolt
i like systemd
void void
lol
void void
boot disk. parted.
merry zealot
but why is windows suck
void void
because it's windows lol
merry zealot
I checked and the boot manager partition is already gone off my hdd
but file history still won't show it
void void
have you tried rebooting
merry zealot
multiple times
merry zealot
I've tried disconnecting and reconnecting the drive physically
also booted without the drive attached (forgot to turn on hot swap so i had to reboot after that lmao)
but it booted without the drive to the boot partition was successfully moved/removed
I don't get it
there is one more thing i can try
backup and format my 4tb drive...
π
void void
im confused where is the drive not showing up
merry zealot
first party backup tool
File History won't list the drive as a drive I can select to store the backup files on
I made a new empty partition but I can't select it as a backup target
void void
did you select it in file history settings or whatever
merry zealot
void void
can you even use a partition for file history
merry zealot
that's where i'm trying to do it
void void
or does it have to be full drive
void void
i dont see those in file history
merry zealot
and the M:\ drive isn't even supposed to show up as a whole drive because it's not mounted as a drive letter
it's mounted in my documents folder
void void
apparently you can't do a partition. go into your partition, make a folder called "File History", make it a shared network folder, and use that in file history settings.
merry zealot
mighty lodge
merry zealot
I shall confirm
untold pecan
void void
tropic flame
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) DS SUCKS! Psp Rocks - length 3m - 76 likes, 122 dislikes (38.4%) - 4,905 views - Anton Gustafsson on 2009.03.05
acoustic pilot
PSP/Vita are actually badass π
limber knotBOT
[VADemon] you are a decade late
acoustic pilot
Nope, they're still badass
PSP/Vita are still undefeated kings of JRPG
(portal JRPG, rather)
Switch hasn't really changed that at all.
portable*
fallen oracle
@void void we're doing smoked cabbage and chicken
vestal jasper
what's with people walking straight past enemies, ulting away from the mercy, and leaving her to die
I don't enjoy this
shrewd goblet
worn ember
dapper nacelle
merry zealot
i just bought doom doot
merry talon
"First person to bring me their warm GPU out of their BYOC wins this RTX 2080"
this is how all giveaways should be done
limber knotBOT
What is the default paper view-distance? It seems to ignore server.properties
unreal quarry
cuddylier, if you're using 1.14.x then server.properties is the only view-distance option. on older versions spigot hijacks that setting in spigot.yml
limber knotBOT
Interesting, I have it set to 12 but it's much less in the real world than when I was using Spigot, odd
void void
lol
merry zealot
I deleted all the volumes, converted the disk to dynamic, back to simple, converted to mbr and back to gpt
then made a bunch of new volumes and deleted them
and now I made one primary partition and a simple volume
and the simple volume shows up
so I have a feeling it doesn't want to use "primary" partitions.
void void
so in other words windows sucks and is a piece of shit
merry zealot
yes
void void
nice
merry zealot
it's not even that actually. I gave the vault partition a name and that shows up now too
fucking winblows
bright brook
limber knotBOT
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bright brook
let me into the taylor swift fan club
vernal plover
ancient bolt
why is github's branch name pattern not actually regex
thin gazelle
vestal jasper
I want
sly tartan
Iβm not sure if thatβs a joke or for intimidation or to assert your dominance over them be eating it
merry talon
so did I see you at 4 or what
merry talon
just ignore me then 
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ur bronze
merry talon
u got beat by a bronze
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limber knotBOT
hi
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irc
void void
If you couldn't tell it was sarcasm haha
cosmic raft
@merry talon no I left at 3 to catch my plane
mortal zinc
@void void pretty sure those shortcuts wouldn't take up more than 50KB or so... XD
void void
@mortal zinc No but the software itself takes up a ton of space.
Especially Windows SDK, Office, and VS2010
cosmic raft
@merry talon I thought you were only getting there at 4 so I didn't bother to ask if you were there
rip
merry talon
oh
frank ruin
cosmic raft
could have sworn you said you'd be getting there at 4
merry talon
nope
cosmic raft
rip
merry talon
I definitely saw your doppelganger around that time though
merry talon
lol I never saw that
cosmic raft
my doppelganger?
cosmic raft
ah
potent dragon
pulsar wigeon
dude that looks like an overly purple tinted anime boy? weird
marble summit
You are a anime boy wizjany
peak dirge
my life right now https://github.com/VelocityPowered/Velocity/commit/ead8a213625603234347b99fa936f2c0a56fb557
merry talon
okay now I'm angry
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ur also retarded
merry talon
the lanyard I spent $10 on was made improperly
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.g lanyard
limber knotBOT
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cosmic raft
ooh
merry talon
could have gotten more signatures
I just try not to be annoying
if they look busy
also I was at the free play a lot of the time lol
empty eagle
void void
@cosmic raft children's hospital? noice
my aunt is an airlift nurse for a children's hospital
cosmic raft
@merry talon they were on day 1
cosmic raft
2 aorus shirts, 1 EVGA shirt, 1 MSI shirt, 1 floatplane shirt, 1 LTX shirt; 1x of NZXT, corsair, LTX, EVGA lanyards; 1x LTX pin, 1x floatplane pin, 1x extra-life pin; 3x extra-life buttons; 1x aorus pillow; 2x BC children's hospital stickers
is what I think I got
in total
cosmic raft
when
jade socket
void void
limber knotBOT
did you both go to ltx and manage not meet each other? π
does somebody here have a workspace of spigot/paper 1.14 and could send me the code of a method (if present) please?
findStatistic in net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.StatisticList
marble summit
Anyone know if mario tennis aces is worth it
limber knotBOT
waterfall is to bungeecord what paper is to spigot
so throw out bungeecord and install waterfall and throw out spigot and install paper
rugged cairn
lunar marlin
π gotcha
void void
By default are crafting tables universal ? I mean anyone can use it even on lands which are claimed by other users ?
cedar spade
vanilla/craftbukkit/spigot/paper has no such thing as land claiming
are you using WorldGuard? GriefPrevention? LWC?
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@stiff yarrow you really changed my nickname? 
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void void
MD, sorry should have added more details. Yeah i am using worldguard as well as Griefprevention.
But i find that users can use the crafting table and open wooden doors (only) that are in other peoples claim. Indeed breaking/placing or using any other stuffs are not possible.
cedar spade
I don't see why crafting tables would be protected
sharp sentinel
Wait what's the issue?
cedar spade
You can't actually store anything inside a crafting table - when you close it, the items pop back out into your inventory/the world
void void
Actually i am not much aware of mc so wanted toknow if it's something that should not be available for every user
And opening the wooden door thing ? Is it also universal for everyone ?
cedar spade
Not sure about wooden doors, let me see
I think you need to edit the config to lock doors in GP claims
void void
I see lemme have a look and thanks for pointing it out
You are right:
LockWoodenDoors: false
LockTrapDoors: false
Will set them to true
tranquil bone
How did you do that quote @void void?
void void
void void
yeah π
tranquil bone
Holy shit since when is that a thing
void void
idk i was just typing a list previous night with those as list items and also figured out the same π
dusk drift
Can we donate to Paper and get a donor rank?
acoustic pilot
I know individual Paper devs might accept donations, but I haven't seen a Paper donation button or anything, Would be cool to set up. But it sounds like you want to buy a rank, which I don't think Paper has any plans to sell.
dusk drift
Well, I just wanna donate to the general project but I'd like to get a role to show that I supported Paper ya know?
acoustic pilot
If you have an expectation of getting something in return for your money, that's called a purchase and not a donation.
If you wanna donate, you should.
Paper should totally set up a link for that or something
dusk drift
yea
acoustic pilot
Cool, so you want to buy a role, not donate.
Dont think Paper has plans for that.
Donation means you expect nothing in return.
cunning badge
But Byte he wants to Donate to get a Role 
acoustic pilot
Haha
So many people fail to understand what a donation is
If you aren't gonna give away your money unless you get a role, then you're not donating
dusk drift
Idk like, but if you look at anything in that way you can put it that way.
Donate to a streamer, your buying a notification
cunning badge
Can I donate and get a Mod role?
cunning badge
acoustic pilot
Yeah but just to be clear, it's a donation and not a purchase!
cunning badge
Of course
cunning badge
And after you donated for the loot crate you HAVE TO donate again to get a key to unlock it 
acoustic pilot
@dusk drift If you're buying something, by definition you aren't donating. You can't both be buying and donating the same thing at the same time.
They are contradicting words.
A donation cannot be a purchase, a purchase cannot be a donation.
If you are giving someone money with the expectation of getting something in return, it's a purchase.
If you wouldn't have given that money away freely without anything in return, it's not a donation.
I'm all for Paper setting up a donation thing with maybe like an honorable mentions on the GitHub or something, but you start giving people things like roles then I dunno
Obv up to Paper team how they want to approach donations
golden gust
a message on a screen is diffErent to something you're given
acoustic pilot
Like I said I'm cool with simple mentions, but not really lasting, tangible things.
golden gust
The issue is is that if you get something in return, the usage of the word donation is a reaaaaallly sticky topic
acoustic pilot
I think you'll find that most people won't give their money away without getting that something in return
dusk drift
So me giving 100 bits to a streamer in return for a badge is a purchase?
acoustic pilot
That is very clearly a purchase.
dusk drift
feel like it depends on the context its done in
golden gust
Being in a community that literally thinks that purchasing items from a store is a donation too is very... yea...
That's the issue, context is 100% relevant
And, we're not really the people who get to determine what is and what isn't a donation
acoustic pilot
If you personally would not "donate" to that streamer unless you got those badges, then yes, you're buying badges.
That would be your context.
But someone who gives their money to the streamer without giving a shit whether they get badges, that's a donation.
dusk drift
So, its a donation if I didn't care about the badge
golden gust
Come down to your local walmart!
dusk drift
but its a purchase if I did?
acoustic pilot
btw for the streamer, it's all income
He/she has to report it as income no matter what
golden gust
Donate $399.99 now! Includes a free tv!
acoustic pilot
It's not a donation even in the tax sense
I think it's easy to keep that line in check by simply doing mentions
Keep expectations low, Paper shouldn't be trying to sell Discord roles
cedar spade
inb4 $3499.99 donation nets you access to #adorable-pets
acoustic pilot
The idea of paying for something that has a tiny, random chance of giving you the things that you want (loot boxes, crates etc) is pretty absurd
But it sells so fucking well lol
A testament to how fucking retarded we've become
dusk drift
So, in your sense does Spigot sell badges?
acoustic pilot
Of course
acoustic pilot
Wrong to call it a donation, but they aren't really the worst offenders
lyric spire
acoustic pilot
I'd call it Spigot Pro or Spigot Premium or something
golden gust
π
I mean, people literally donate just so that they can change their nicks on there
acoustic pilot
This community in particular has a big problem with not understanding the difference between paying and donating
dusk drift
Ight, so we could take Spigot to court since they are a registered company classing purchases as donations?
acoustic pilot
That's not really how that works.
Spigot still reports all the money they earn as income
And they pay taxes on it
So they aren't really doing anything much wrong from a legal perspective
dusk drift
But you don't pay taxes on donations?
acoustic pilot
They aren't donations
void void
acoustic pilot
I thought we established this
dusk drift
Then why does it say donation everywhere
acoustic pilot
But even if they were donations, only certain class of entities can lower taxable income earned from donations, such as charities, which Spigot ofc isn't.
So all the money Spigot earns, it gets reported as income after deductions
void void
lmao that join message was perfect
acoustic pilot
And they pay taxes on that income
dusk drift
Fair enough.
acoustic pilot
They can call it whatever the fuck they want
As long as they're paying taxes on it
acoustic pilot
But ofc my point is that calling it something doesn't mean that's what it is.
What Spigot is doing on the forums is a business model.
Not a donation model.
dusk drift
Law and shit is weird man
worn ember
Or he will fuck you back dry in the ass
rugged frost
velvet marlin
dapper nacelle
would this be considerably slower than having the logic that checks if the player left/right clicks in every class separately?
golden gust
it's a set of boolean checks
If that was a major performance issue we'd be screwed
well, memory address comparisons \o/
merry zealot
Can anyone help me figure out why buildtools is starting up millions of instances of portable git?
It's literally blocking itself
it seems to have issues with this part
rem downloading and running buildtools
title Downloading BuildTools.jar...
bitsadmin /transfer bToolsDownload /download /priority normal https://hub.spigotmc.org/jenkins/job/BuildTools/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/target/BuildTools.jar %cd%\BuildTools.jar
timeout 3 /nobreak
title Running BuildTools %version%
java -jar BuildTools.jar --rev %version%
del BuildTools.jar
tardy lynx
not use windows
merry zealot
then what the fuck will i play my games on
golden gust
#WineAndTearsMasterRace
rugged frost
kek
merry zealot
I have had bad experiences with Wine
rugged frost
build the damn thing on linux
golden gust
r/whoosh
rugged frost
π
tardy lynx
Minecraft only game
merry zealot
π€
golden gust
Reminds me, I could probably do with running buildtools for every version on my fresh install because rip .m2 :/
The annoyance is really in how stupid he handles versions
e.g. versions pointing to other versions because it was just a trivial upgrade
void void
:-)
golden gust
I erm...
merry zealot
golden gust
Yea, that's what I did before I reinstalled my OS
merry zealot
that's why i'm making an install script, to make it all faster and even make a test server in the installed version
golden gust
for ver in veeerssssiiiionnnnssss, heeeeerrreee......; do mkdir $ver; pushd $ver; java -jar ../Buildtools.jar --rev $ver; popd; done
merry zealot
yea except i'm using windows and bat and it sucks
golden gust
Install git?
merry zealot
yes but actually no
golden gust
Define "yes"
Any reason you wouldn't have bash available somewhere to just say screw it and use what works? π
I kinda wanna go push everything to a repo
void void
i need to fucking sleep
golden gust
But, I also kinda don't wanna rip all the disk space
merry zealot
because i wanna make the script public and if you have to download something else it wouldn't really make it faster or easier
I just want it to like
download 1 file & run
golden gust
You'll need bash anyways
void void
golden gust
You could maybe take inspiration from what BT does with the portable git
void void
what are you making anyway
merry zealot
yea but if BT is the only thing that needs portable git then why would I download portable git for my install script too?
golden gust
Well, bt needs to fetch it anyways, and will likely fetch 20 dozen copies of it anyways
void void
lol
golden gust
could probably just download it yourself, stick it somewhere in the path so BT will use that, and you get bash
dapper nacelle
does the paper jar provide fastutils?
golden gust
yup
dapper nacelle
how do I add it
dapper nacelle
it isn't
golden gust
(assuming that you're being sane and using gradle/maven)
dapper nacelle
I use maven
<dependency>
<groupId>com.destroystokyo.paper</groupId>
<artifactId>paper-api</artifactId>
<version>1.14.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>
do I need to declare fast utils seperatly
golden gust
Urgh, maven doesn't resolve transitive provides does it
acoustic pilot
well by definition provides isn't transitive
dapper nacelle
so I need to add it seperatly
golden gust
yeaa
yup
<dependency>
<groupId>it.unimi.dsi</groupId>
<artifactId>fastutil</artifactId>
<version>8.2.2</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>
tyvm
void void
acoustic pilot
it should be changed IMO to a compile scope in api
but maybe there's a reason for it being the way it is now
never prodded
golden gust
It's bundled with the server
(and fastutil is big af)
I guess if we excluded it from shade we could set it to compile
acoustic pilot
API shouldn't need to actually shade anything
dapper nacelle
jetp250 said he was using version 8.2.3
merry zealot
okay so it's not my script that's causing the issue, it's the actual BuidTools jar file that has some loop in it somewhere that will cause it to fire up 20 million instances of portable git...
good to know
fallen jungle
I wasn't relying on the provided FastUtils because I didn't know it was included lol
What version should I use?
golden gust
No, it shouldn't, but shaded artifacts are created because people kinda like.. don't use maven and are just gross...
fallen jungle
oh 8.2.2
acoustic pilot
doesn't sound like a use case that should be supported
does spigot even shade api jar?
golden gust
worth noting that it's there in paper, CB/Spigot has it but it's in a different package because relocating stuff is fun
fallen jungle
I think Spigot support is so far away at this point that I'll just not care
void void
ok bed time
acoustic pilot
Damn, can't even do 20 TPS with 1.12.2 in a Ubuntu guest on VirtualBox. >_>
19.5 lol
Timings cost 260
It's a testing VM, was hoping for better though.
golden gust
Tbh, I've found that vbox performance is pretty lacking vs vmware and stuff
I can't fault them, and tbh, their stuff is nicer in terms of dev setups
acoustic pilot
Technically VBox is more popular for dev setups, if you consider Vagrant π
golden gust
Yea
acoustic pilot
but yeah VMWare has good 3D support too
I remember owning VMWare Fusion a long time ago
golden gust
Not used vagrant in a while, but that's because I can't afford the whole vmware setup
Kinda wish I could, I can't really install vbox and vmware side by side, but vagrant was super nice when I started looking into it
golden gust
You'd need the provider
There was the free one, but last I tried it wasn't building or something
acoustic pilot
Is it possible to easily clone an existing Windows 10 install to a new, bigger disk?
Or migrate, whatever.
golden gust
there are tools for it
https://www.minitool.com/partition-manager/ shooould do it afaik, pretty sure I've used it in the past
acoustic pilot
with SSD prices falling, now seems like a good time to upgrade my shitty low capacity ones
working with 2x ~200GB SSDs from like a few years ago lol
golden gust
lol
My laptop has some crappy "it was on offer on prime day" SSDs π
The uni handed out some cash a few days before prime day, was just lurking and saw them and figured that the HDD was the maaajor bottleneck on both laptop and desktop
Laptop is still going, not really suitable for a daily driver, but handy for watching stuff on and a "I have no choice" type moments, desktop I replaced because 4G of ram is not enough
acoustic pilot
Not really following the SSD market, I guess prices for SATA are plummeting because of NVMe?
void void
How much better are NVMe to SATA anyways?
golden gust
You remove the SATA
void void
I know my friend got one and that shit was fast as hell
golden gust
Pretty sure that NVMe drives basically end up being closer to the CPU, and reducing the amount of things in the middle, especially things like sata which where designed when HDDs where slow af
acoustic pilot
which is great for SATA prices, for development you really won't need more than SATA speeds
might grab me one of these cheap $30 SSDs for a Linux dual boot
golden gust
Yea, you're not really going to notice much real world performance differences unless you're literally hammering it
acoustic pilot
NVMe probably would be great for Minecraft's chunk system, yeah
needs all the help it can get
golden gust
nvme there is probably more going to be related to multiple servers at once, I have doubts that nvme would offer super mega gains without async anyways
golden gust
i guess the latency reductions might help
void void
what would you prefer between a good CPU or an NVMe over standard SSD
acoustic pilot
CPU + SSD
golden gust
^^
acoustic pilot
CPU + SATA SSD, I mean
golden gust
CPU is often the bottleneck, not the SSD
void void
As in 3.7 ghz vs 4.7ghz or RAID ssd vs NVMe
acoustic pilot
yup
golden gust
(Unless you're on a spinny disk, in which rip all hopes)
acoustic pilot
There are high performance SATA SSDs too which won't demand your entire savings
void void
Or a kidney
golden gust
Tbh, even the crappy clone drives ain't too bad these days
golden gust
You won't get samsung level performance, but it's likely not going to matter too much
acoustic pilot
I could probably comfortably use this for a Linux dual boot: https://smile.amazon.com/Kingston-240GB-Solid-SA400S37-240G/dp/B01N5IB20Q
void void
1tb methinks
Iβm really tempted to make another PC
And I made the shitty decision of buying a GPU right when the mining fiasco was ramping up
golden gust
Well, you're paying *3 over like a HDD, at least comparable pricing here
But, the perf gains are much more than *3 over a standard HDD, so π
void void
35 second boot up time over 10
acoustic pilot
so NVMe is 2x the cost of equivalent SATA capacity atm, seems like
but i don't think it's anywhere near 2x the gains
golden gust
It's kinda crazy how much SSD prices have come down tbh
acoustic pilot
actually seems like NVMe and SATA aren't priced that far apart if you look hard enough
the Samsung 970 EVO 1TB is $170
golden gust
oh god simple
acoustic pilot
o.o
void void
acoustic pilot
you live with ur fiance right
how has she not beaten ur ass yet
lol
always up til 6 am and shit π
void void
fallen oracle
So they dropped 1.12.2 support but they are keeping it on the website?
acoustic pilot
wouldn't surprise me if that's intentional
golden gust
That'll be removed soon
void void
...unless?
golden gust
It's one of those "grab it while you still can" I guess
(Not that you can't just fetch it with the API)
acoustic pilot
Compiling a libGDX Java-based game to Javascript with GWT, and deploying it with Electron.... gonna vomit lol
acoustic pilot
someone apparently actually did this and decided to write a how-to article
also Electron-based Steam games are a thing, apparently
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I know ...
limber knotBOT
gotta go webscale!
acoustic pilot
things do some times get backported to unsupported versions, not sure if that'll be the case for 1.12.2
but if anything does get backported, it'll likely be a security-related patch
but that's just based on my knowledge of how things have played out in the past with other unsupported versions
limber knotBOT
oh that's fun
steam untagged every game I had
yeah steam thanks I really wanted these 223 games in alphabetical order
void void
merry zealot
...Unless?
pulsar summit
vestal jasper
overwatch quick play matchmaking is interesting
i'm a level 23 matching with level 500s
er not matching
brainfart
feral beacon
vestal jasper
holy shit I switch to moira nearing the end of the round, get a double kill, and I'm gold in eliminations. What the fuck.
cunning badge
Wrong discord m8
vestal jasper
imagine not talking about mc or paper 24/7
cunning badge
Sounds like a cruel world
next arrow
limber knotBOT
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
void void
no how can i set up flags in ubuntu?
dense nebula
creeper
neon hinge
stone mountain
worn ember
Gea
limber knotBOT
Hello guys :) my question is a combination of paper server + itzg docker container.. when I run the docker and he trys to download the image i always geht that Version doesnt exist fpr paper server.. so what Version variable is supported for paper? I tried stable, latest, 1.14, 1.14.4
limber knotBOT
ok thx, I guess the problems lies at another situation.. the docker file itself is probably is outaded because he links me to "Refer to https://ci.destroystokyo.com/job/PaperSpigot/" which is quite old that is why the lookup probably dont work
Kaji: [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
woeful hull
anyone else having trouble getting on spigot? o . O
mighty pawn
fallen oracle
Spigot seems to be loading fine.
woeful hull
weird just gave me a dang error
guess something is breaking on my path to spigot's website
or just a hiccup that got a real quick fix lol
stiff yarrow
@acoustic pilot BACKPORT ALL CHANGES TO 1.8.8 OR RIOT
void void
This long command right:
java -Xms6G -Xmx6G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=100 -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:G1NewSizePercent=50 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=80 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=35 -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -Dusing.aikars.flags=mcflags.emc.gs -jar paperclip.jar
And in case of 8GB ram i replace only 6G with 7G ,
Xms7G -Xmx67G
upper flicker
@stiff yarrow KRAKEN PUT BACK INTO MAIN MCMMO JAR OR RIOT
woeful hull
turned off by default i bet? lol
lol well I am a patreon of mcmmo and I would so love having a kraken back more for torturing players than for fishing xD
and lol you could just add it to paper spigot as a weird command Z lol
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yeah z
worn ember
No u
vestal jasper
@static badge about to play my first comp game
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ur gon git bronze
patent forum
upper flicker
Yeah we don't add random shit like that to paper
Just increases the potential number of bugs and hurts trust
pseudo island
chrome panther
woeful hull
lol
sturdy fulcrum
Sup
woeful hull
I can see it "announcements: paper Kraken update | we missed having the kraken in our mcmmo so we added it to paper!"
sturdy fulcrum
Whatβs the kraken
woeful hull
the TNT squid from fishing too fast on classic mcmmo
sturdy fulcrum
Sounds fun
woeful hull
that most normally turned off
oh it is... specially when you do /kraken playernamehere
and you edit the damage output and HP π
cursive basalt
sturdy fulcrum
What if they arenβt fishing
cursive basalt
hello guys, is this the right channel to ask questions about server mechanics?
woeful hull
nah tnt and poison pots were my fav part
just see a guy get killed by tnt in chat and you sit laughing "welp we know what they're doing"
lol
then they say "nope... I dug down the pyramid wrong"
for sure can't do afk fishing no more so i'm happy lol
sturdy fulcrum
Configs change tho
woeful hull
I haven't updated since the update right before the major update that was going to be in 2.2
mortal plover
sturdy fulcrum
Whatβs wrong with major changes if they are beneficial?
woeful hull
oh sounds fun
but I'll be waiting for 2.2 then I'll be editing just about everything
sturdy fulcrum
Maybe itβs to motivate people who rely on default configs to set the plugin up how they want
Default configs are default for a reason
woeful hull
nah I think people wanted haste right away and it was the only reason people even went into alchemy to begin with lol
which is why for my server haste will be one of those things that tik a few people off to get because I'll be putting it at a different requirement level such as probably 250 or 500 alchemy
redstone block? xD
or better yet furnace cart? lol
break logic all together
"oh yes get me the furnace cart egor, we need to make a haste potion"
egor "yes...wait wtf a furnace cart, how the heck you gonna fit that in the brewing stand?!"
rocky anchor
amber tinsel
oof
That's a lot of cpu for one plugin 
And btw, i'm atm working with the dev to fix it. But he cant reproduce it on its own machine, is there something what have even more detail then paper timings?
amber tinsel
Opening it will just say AcceptTheRules::Command: AcceptTheRules:atr
But that all the commands, like /atr player and /atr reset
So it doesnt display it seprated as far i know.
amber tinsel
?
here are the full timings btw https://timings.aikar.co/?id=11e3ba96fd8f4b999c57d52ea1d0d912
But is display every command that it have(/atr x) as just AcceptTheRules::Command: AcceptTheRules:atr
Not sure if that's something what is shouldnt do though
and yes. it does stall the server for few seconds. (what brings the tps down a bit for few seconds)
amber tinsel
I just tested it with only ATR, and it doesnt seem to happen anymore. What means a other may mean a other plugin fucks with it
Not sure why it would though 
wide hazel
pulsar wigeon
ctrl+alt+l
upper flicker
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you mean your eye*
upper flicker
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upper flicker
Leaf slow as always
upper flicker
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no u
amber tinsel
Does anybody know a more indepth plugin/thing dor looking how much cpu plugins takes? I tried it with paper's timings. But it doesnt show anything usefull except it takes a lot of cpu, and this lag issue doesnt happen when we have the same plugins on a other server, there it doesnt stall the server. What means its something in the main server cause ATR to stall.
golden gust
Use a profiler
amber tinsel
What profiler?
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jvisualvm works
golden gust
Pretty much ^^
Timings can be improved by plugin devs implementing timing handlers
But, overall, most devs don't, and you're only going to get so much of a picture
pulsar wigeon
are custom timings handlers a thing in v1 or just v2?
amber tinsel
Thanks, will look into it.
golden gust
v1 and v2
pulsar wigeon
api different or?
golden gust
Yuup
pulsar wigeon
figures
golden gust
wide hazel
That one made me laugh
pulsar wigeon
that's a crosscompat lib
i thought that was the v2 api
never actually bothered clicking on that link when people post it
lul
amber tinsel
Does jvisualvm need to be used on the jar or on the server?
golden gust
No, it's an external program
You'd basically wanna setup the debugger stuff so it can connect or use xforwarding
(x2go was also nice)
amber tinsel
Can this be used when the server is beinig hosted intead self hosted?
As it kinda sounds that the server need to be self hosted.
amber tinsel
Ahha
Alrighty
Thanks
WIll do some testing it is look strange that this issue on happen on the main server and not the test server.
pulsar wigeon
that completely misses the point
unless it has some way to connect to a server you don't have full control of
which would be concerning, to say the very least
wide hazel
I tried the free profilers. They're fine for just looking at threads and sometimes timings
wide hazel
You need to have a port either way
Or have it running on the local pc
I don't see what I missed
Probably why I'm missing it
limber knotBOT
1.14 152+
tepid cargo
winged heath
limber knotBOT
anyone knows why some chunks in 1.14 have massive FPS drops when crossing them?
wide hazel
limber knotBOT
Anyone knows if FPS loss when crossing chunks (https://youtu.be/2BJIgVvkHEU?t=17) can be fixed someway or do we just wait for Mojang to fix this issue?
(hell) 1.14.4 Chunk Border Crossing Lag - length 1m 44s - 6 views - ShatteredCone on 2019.07.27
pulsar wigeon
something to do with all the signs maybe?
https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-123584 this is a thing so...
probably would help more to see the pie
limber knotBOT
its simple, we start by killing all fences
latent sorrel
Anyone know what this Dynmap setting means? Its written a bit convolutely to me and for some reason I can't find any info on it online. Not in the Dynmap github or documentation pages. Only a single relevant google result that didn't help much.
I am just tryin to figure out if a higher or lower value would allow it to use whatever it wants to go as fast as it can. I've already done the other settings.
per-tick-time-limit: 50```
wary gyro
stuck wing
keen forum
gusty idol
Can I ask for help with Gradle/JUnit here?
I assume #paper-dev is more for help with the Paper API
fast tree
Iβve been using a little program for several months thatβs stops the updates. Windows annoys me how it eventually makes you update.. bit like Apple!
vestal jasper
stopping updates
golden gust
apple lets you disable auto updates
(and keep them disable)
where as windows lets you disable it "for now"
fast tree
Well thatβs news to me... you wanna share...?
fast tree
Ah thatβs on a Mac... was more referring to damn iPhone...
golden gust
ahh
maiden hearth
Does anyone if there is a standalone system for managing a network of paper servers? For example creating servers with templates and manage plugin configs automatically?
outer glacier
maiden hearth
Cool, I am fine with that
Thanks I'll look into it
Interesting seems like if I learn that it might come handy besides MC, thanks for the suggestion
lol
time for some windirstat research right
wide hazel
void void
Damn barty well played
golden gust
Nothing has changed there?
Plugins load, then startup plugins enable, worlds load, and then post startup plugins enable
fallen oracle
Mood.
golden gust
π¦
limber knotBOT
so now we know that they didn't do offsite backups...
acoustic pilot
The server was on the ground floor of a completely burned three-story studio. It seems that the room was covered with concrete on all sides and it did not burn out, nor was it affected by the water from fire extinguishing activities.
vestal jasper
:monkaGIGA:
golden gust
No
void void
merry talon
god dammit
cosmic raft
hm?
merry talon
I've done at least 4 different surveys that promised stickers
And not one has arrived
merry talon
it's been years
cosmic raft
lol
merry talon
6 months shipping is already absurd
limber knotBOT
easier to just get it printed yourself xD
kashike: nice sticker!
wizardfrag: thanks
I won a shiny sticker at a conference the other week!
acoustic pilot
Apparently there's at least a 4% wrongful conviction rate in the US for people sentenced to death.
Four Percent
limber knotBOT
https://twitter.com/ErlangSolutions/status/1150802711438352384 I won one of these, just by going up to the stand and taking one!
wizardfrag: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555469074080202765/605264802876489745/IMG_20190728_220551.jpg \o/
LTX was fun
Ah nice kashike
vestal jasper
Pizza is just tamed spaghetti
vestal jasper
you have cheese, tomato sauce, and the product of wheat+water
peak dirge
I swear, Netty makes it hard to correctly implement TCP_FASTOPEN
vestal jasper
the idea of faster connections is nice
amber tinsel
My server seem to still auto save while its turned off lol, not sure if its broken 1.14 or if a plugin does it.
limber knotBOT
a player called "LegalThings" just joined my server π€
that doesn't sound fishy at all xD
limber knotBOT
he is one of the main developers, paper itself is an open source project made by lots of different people
vivid dust
neat
I used to be player on empireminecraft a number of years ago, I remember when aikar first joined
am now setting up a server and saw his name again
just thought it was neat
limber knotBOT
Aye
Completely new to plugin stuff where would I look for documentation, methods and stuff that I can use?
there's a basic tutorial on the spigot wiki, also the old bukkit wiki still has some usefull stuff
?jd also the javadocs have all classes, events and methods:
.jd
thanks :D
woven otter
so
abstract aspen
vestal jasper
"tnt cannon not working in creative"
why would you have tnt enabled in creative anyway
woven otter
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
abstract aspen
is there anywhere I can find examples or something that will help get me started? I don't really have any experience reading Javadocs so they don't make a whole lot of sense to me I mean I get the jist but it's a bit difficult
karmic igloo
void void
poop
abstract aspen
de scoop
void void
poop
woven otter
paper