Lol
#general
quick gust
placid thicket
I can code in Dreamweaver, that makes me a programmer right?
void void
I love everything about that picture
placid thicket
Seemed appropriate for here
limber knotBOT
No that makes you a hipster
void void
i joined this other programming discord and stupid questions get ss'd, deleted, and put in a special channel specifically for retards
i think we need that here
limber knotBOT
pets electroniccat
placid thicket
Yeah but it would be nice to have a stupid corner and an ultra stupid corner
vestal jasper
Maybe even a furry corner to contain @static badge
worn ember
lol you can leave messages on other users in debian. Thats cool
quick gust
what
worn ember
(it shows the windows taskbar cuz i'm tabbed out of the vm)
worn ember
like different accounts on the system
quick gust
oh lol
limber knotBOT
you can do that in windows as well its pretty standard
marble summit
@static badge you stfrickup furry
void void
Ender chest showing different items in inventories in different worlds. Whats the fix for it ?
silver frost
void void
auctionhealth,chestshop,coreprotect,crazyauctions,essentials,griefpreventions,harbor,holograms,jobs,lobbyapi,loginsecurity,mobarena,multiversecore and portals,voting,persmissionsex,quantumshop,stackmob,tab,trade,vult,worldedit and worldguard
any idea which one could be, loppy api was only doing the general inventory but now it's the ender chest
placid thicket
ToniBear, need a timings report to help you
limber knotBOT
If you link timings people can pick on stuff and maybe help, but 1.14 is... 1.14...
limber knotBOT
u kno wat u gotta do
void void
wat
limber knotBOT
I wll link timing, problem for me is tickEntities
look at this hell of lagg
:)
and that tps drop start when there is 25+ players
void void
butt load of bats and tropical fish
limber knotBOT
I even reduce spawning of all mobs/animals by 2
half*
also reduced view distance as you can see
void void
the tropical fish are hurting you
golden gust
view distance is in server.properties, we can't see that any longer
void void
you wanna focus on that, not just all mobs
golden gust
But yea, rek the fishes
golden gust
They add nothing to the game beyond being pretty afaik
void void
idk how mobs get so built up, my conclusion each time is players are farming shit lol
spiral garden
@worn ember https://ranked.is-la.me/5r4LZe1.png
limber knotBOT
that fish is used for fishing events :)
void void
having no clue how bad that affects the server
golden gust
Spartan is also munching away your TPS
void void
@void void iirc muliverse does some stuff with inventorys
worn ember
wow
what the hell
i didnt know xD
i only have one user on all my pc's tho
so probably why
limber knotBOT
well its skyblocks server, so yes they are farming, but on 1.12 I didnot have that problem, and there was like 70-80 players
void void
rip ur ram
limber knotBOT
Well, yea; Which is great
But 1.14 literally killed any form of performance around chunks
There is a reason why every community around mc is saying that 1.14.x is kinda crappy
void void
heres a pro tip
dont chug two fucking 20oz coffees and expect your body to just be ok with this
speaking from experience
void void
yeah there is one but im manning the phones at the office rn completely alone while the rest of my family is watching my niece do a recital
lol -.-
limber knotBOT
(Bet he'll love that ping if he spots it :P )
void void
wat
tranquil bone
Hello yall
golden gust
lucko is on irc
tranquil bone
How are we doing today?
void void
ah
golden gust
mfw that message showed up on IRC before it showed up on discord
void void
@golden gust you llike my new site? https://iwillputyouinthe.icu
tranquil bone
Tyler
golden gust
not even a 5k image for my 5k screen
tranquil bone
Ic what u did there
golden gust
Literally the worse site ever
golden gust
Also, screw you discord and your dum quotes
tranquil bone
I have some good eye strain
void void
upper flicker
Who is that homeless guy on the front of your site
gray field
worn ember
eboy
merry zealot
TLDR; I baked my phone in my oven to get rid of moisture cause it wouldn't charge and in stead of completely killing my phone, which it really should have. It fixed it
worn ember
you know how fucking dangerous that is right?
limber knotBOT
you guys are insane.
golden gust
"dangerous"
worn ember
lithium batteries explode when they become hot
golden gust
mfw you take the batteries out
limber knotBOT
or under high pressure
worn ember
oh in that case, go ahead
golden gust
Keyboard I used actually had no battery
golden gust
and even then, how hot do you think your phone gets when you're charging it or pushing it hard?
worn ember
im talking about the oven you dum cat
golden gust
You don't turn it on full thawck lol
worn ember
180ยฐC is enough lol
golden gust
180 is OTT
golden gust
ur always hungri
golden gust
I mean, you do run in NT
merry zealot
@worn ember i only baked it at 60ยฐC
"only"
Plus it was turned off so the battery wasn't engaged which probably saved it
And i refrigerated it right afterwards
But still
worn ember
shouldve taking it out tbh
worn ember
if its stupid and it works its not stupid
merry zealot
I didn't have the tools to take it our
worn ember
inb4 the battery explodes in your pocket in the next week and your leg is fucked
merry zealot
And im also quite reliant on my phone these few weeks
As im home alone and my work schedule is posted in a whatsapp group..
worn ember
lmfao
merry zealot
I have actually had a phone battery blow up before
It wasn't on me though luckily
It was in a cupboard
I was upstairs and i heard an actual loud bang
merry zealot
And I could not for the life of me figure out where it came from until i opened the cupboard a day later
worn ember
they nasty
golden gust
I honestly had no idea at that age, and well, I never did that again ๐
worn ember
they're really ticking timebombs if not managed properly by your phone, or manufactured properly
(look at Samsung)
they had a few cases of randomly exploding batteries
merry zealot
cough note 7 cough
golden gust
New feature, eh
merry zealot
"Throw your phone at the shooter and throw a lit match after it"
"may explode unexpectedly"
balmy sedge
worn ember
๐ค
grim pollen
tropic flame
our next stage of evolution should be called homie sapiens sapiens
golden gust
nohomo sapiens
tropic flame
lmao I'm watching this video and the dude pretends to be a news reporter on the field, and he's asking to people if they agree with "homo sapiens marriage"
this is hilarious
worn ember
limber knotBOT
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void void
Anyone knows a "whatsmyip" websocket server? 
worn ember
just connect to any server and it'll log the ip you use
void void
considering I have access to that server log
worn ember
and if its a http proxy wouldnt whatsmyip just work?
since its... you know... over http
void void
yeah you don't understand
worn ember
or whatever
void void
๐
I know that proxy work
I want to know if it works
with the websocket connection
after all the handshake and everything
worn ember
well if its a http proxy probably not
void void
wat
๐
nvm then
I'll just make a ws server
I'm not the kind of guy that host whatsmyip by myself
worn ember
you should be that guy that learns proper english though. its hard to understand what you're trying to say
void void
don't be rude when I am switching from french to english to russian all day
you dumbass
golden gust
^
void void
:^)
void void
๐
worn ember
wow idk what uncultured stuff those damn french have been teaching you but we dont call each other dumbasses here , you asslicking noodle 
worn ember
why you so triggered lol?
void void
I'm actually not
worn ember
woven otter
kernel rood
void void
sour minnow
anyone know how to turn off op keep inventory?
golden gust
check your gamerule and make sure that if you've got essentials you've not given everybody the keepinv rank
tardy lynx
for ops you have to negate the permission
uncut loom
woven otter
it's on stable as well
woven otter
ofc
void void
pulsar wigeon
how do you make folders
woven otter
drag one server over another
void void
but not far enough to kick it over
woven otter
ye
pulsar wigeon
oic
void void
it should make a bloop sound
pulsar wigeon
this bothers the fuck out of me
woven otter
why
void void
hngggg
woven otter
yes and for companies that own Minecraft
static badge
why have QA when canary exists 
void void
:^)
tropic flame
I just realized, swimming is only fun because we can float
If gravity was the same underwater and in land we'd die and we wouldn't want to try to swim
Swimming wouldn't exist
wooden blade
Those non-sinkers are weird, amirite?
worn ember
@tropic flame kind of the same reason we don't jump in volcano's no?
void void
y did u tag me
worn ember
dere we go
tropic flame
I guess it was for me? Lmao
Well, yeah
You'd just jump inside a huge crater with H2O and drown
void void
dont make me .ask you
also rip getting unicorn on github
i just looked out my fucking window and some birds are having sex.
my life is cursed.
robust quest
9 years bad luck mate...
merry talon
day 5: still ripping my hair out
Step 7/8 : COPY --from=codercom/code-server /usr/local/bin/code-server /usr/local/bin/code-server
...
Step 8/8 : ENTRYPOINT ["/usr/local/bin/code-server", "--allow-http", "--trust-proxy"]
...
Successfully built c21266c1aa45
Recreating code-server ... done
Attaching to code-server
code-server | [FATAL tini (6)] exec /usr/local/bin/code-server failed: No such file or directory
I was using a prebuild docker image and it worked fine here
What's your dockerfile look like?
merry talon
doing it this way because I wanted to use alpine
FROM alpine
WORKDIR /root
RUN echo "http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/testing" >> /etc/apk/repositories \
&& apk --update-cache upgrade \
&& apk add git gnupg openssh oh-my-zsh nodejs yarn python3-dev maven gradle rsync httpie curl nano
ADD https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sweepyoface/dotfiles/master/.zshrc .
ADD https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sweepyoface/dotfiles/master/.gitconfig .
COPY --from=codercom/code-server /usr/local/bin/code-server /usr/local/bin/code-server
ENTRYPOINT ["/usr/local/bin/code-server", "--allow-http", "--trust-proxy"]
the COPY shouldn't succeed if there's any issue
but alas the file doesn't exist in the image
I was considering building from source but it takes a literal half hour
golden gust
I'm not 100%, but if it makes you feel any better, the copy did work
It's almost 3am so screw tryna dig deeper, but if I had to guess, you're potentially missing other things
merry talon
well I could understand it not running properly
but not sure how anything else is relevant to ENOENT
pulsar wigeon
so, if tnt blows up an item frame, it's HangingBreakByEntityEvent with the tnt entity
if an ender crystal blows up an item frame, it's a HangingBreakEvent with no entity
bukkit is a good api ๐
carmine hinge
Is there a way to disable tick catchup?
So it doesn't suddenly go in fast forward mode after a lag spike
merry talon
so TIL alpine uses musl so won't run stuff from glibc
the problem lies therein the very unhelpful error message
not sure how I've been using alpine for everything and not run into that issue
my brain hurts
void void
new paste site https://wutzth.is/about.md
i reserve the right to delete the fucc out of your shit anytime i want
snow crescent
I'm pissing myself atm
pulsar wigeon
had a user having issues with sqlite not being executable in /tmp
not only could they not add server flags (-Dorg.sqlite.tmpdir) to their startup, but after 2 days of talking to shockbyte support they couldn't get /tmp mounted without noexec
๐
would be nice if spigot just moved their sqlite internally
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
shitty hosts i guess ๐ฎ
void void
ew wiz ๐ฎ
snow crescent
Mitch is one of the most cancerous people in the industry
marble summit
@static badge Look what i found, a game just for you https://discordapp.com/store/skus/601255806696161291/minecraft-furry
vestal jasper
your true calling
upper flicker
rip vicarious cat pfp
vestal jasper
I changed it like 2 months ago
upper flicker
F
static badge
that's what u say
vestal jasper
ok furry
static badge
ur furry
vestal jasper
static badge
no u
limber knotBOT
I've been binging inspirational youtube videos back to back for the past 48 hours and I've finally mustered up the courage to go forward with my dream
I'm going to open up an insulation business which exclusively uses c4 as an insulation material
thanks youtube
acoustic pilot
I know a few libertarians who are in some deep shit if they are one of these people lol
static badge
this'll be interesting
upper flicker
I think coinbase was making it easier to get your relevant tax docs and doing some other stuff to CYA their liability
static badge
.g define CYA
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cya -- cya - Urban Dictionary: "Cover your ass - a way of saying "I'm going to do just enough CYA so that when something goes wrong I can blame someone else down the line"..."
upper flicker
those people should probably get ready to pay up
marble vault
wooden blade
@merry talon I gave up on using coder and switched to just using remote. https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/remote-overview
merry talon
I don't have that option on ChromeOS
wooden blade
Ah, bummer. I kept losing connection or having issues, this way has been more stable for me, without having to move my remote or bump up the specs
Will this work with your device? https://github.com/headmelted/codebuilds
merry talon
well if I used dev mode I could just install it normally afaik
I'd just prefer not to do that
Coder will still be useful when I do have my desktop
void void
limber knotBOT
Guide for optimizing performance: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimizationโก.283181/
ancient bolt
ugh fuck me and my shitty toes
merry talon
?
ancient bolt
i have problems with my toes
merry talon
kinky
void void
i got friend request botted i have over 2000 friend requests how should i fix it
left yacht
I've used auto clickers
on the ignore button
for cases like that
usually discord lags to shit though
void void
im on 1.12.2
it lit
i got a good seed too
ive put 24 gb ram on my server to pregen the world
marsh charm
half the websites say I need to be 24 away from slime spawn and half say 28 
anybody know which it is?
acoustic pilot
limber knotBOT
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acoustic pilot
Looks like they managed to bring back the original cast.
As always the show will hinge on Tallahassee probably
err, movie.
merry talon
that is one good cast
worn ember
@acoustic pilot Zombieland: Double tap to see magic
sterile torrent
stiff yarrow
@acoustic pilot wtf jesse hasn't aged a day
trailer was a bit ehh but I'll watch it anyways
first movie was great
void void
ok after my hastebin, https://wutzth.is, was born, approximately two hours ago, i realized it's shit and uses too much ram for my enjoyment. so it will be shutting down in 5 minutes. make ur goodbye pastes. thx.
void void
if none of you paste something on my site before it dies i will cry
vestal jasper
I just did
void void
:D
vestal jasper
:^)
void void
cedar spade
void void
a good message
vestal jasper
made a few more
void void
:O
cedar spade
also when did vic become nossr what
vestal jasper
noss nicked me
void void
vestal jasper
cropping it
cedar spade
>โข.โข<
vestal jasper
God do I love playing on hypixel and being hit by someone who's looking down at the ground away from me
cedar spade
void void
here were all your pastes https://wutzth.is/cavoruhero lul
ok shutting down
mfw
gives link to all pastes, on pastebin that is shutting down
why does it style by greentext now
this is....intriguing
worn ember
@void void https://pastie.io ๐
plain plover
void void
yeah :p That's the one I use
I was actually hosting that other one as a joke
Idk if y'all noticed but the logo said "fuck you"
worn ember
lol it was down before i got to check
worn ember
thats one ugly font lol
void void
yeah my project is getting quite large too
gonna have to start using shift-shift lol, starting to have issues finding the classes
void void
rip
worn ember
but my js is rusty and yeah
void void
snake games are ezpz
worn ember
i guess
still dock
void void
@worn ember allow the snake to backtrack 
void void
if they suicide they suicide
umbral willow
acoustic pilot
fuck mystery deathmatch
merry talon
it says fuck u too
merry zealot
@pulsar wigeon top has no spacing either, just the folder icon is smaller and has transparency around it
marble perch
polar lava
static saddle
junior swallow
void void
"Hacker"
void void
worn ember
No u
lunar drum
pulsar wigeon
ffs
acoustic pilot
no u
silent flame
#148 No changes....??
I mean, there has to be something that changed for a new version right??
silent flame
thats what it looks like ๐
worn ember
read the commits?
golden gust
The existance of 148 is an issue on our side, it's not a real build
silent flame
ok i will try to understand that ๐
golden gust
(Well, it is a real build, just; We don't intend for that to happen ๐ )
#BlameJenkins
viscid aurora
umm..shall we use 147 or 148
silent flame
If I understand them correctly it should not matter
bold wraith
golden gust
@umbral tiger are you not in the admincraft discord? o.O
merry zealot
@marble perch is GriefPrevention not updated?
void void
alpine flare
umbral tiger
void void
can i do a drop-in paperMC for a vanilla minecraft server or is it not quite that easy?
golden gust
It's drop in
Craftbukkit deals with the migration, to go back in the future you'd just need to move 'em back
(it basically means that paper will move the worlds as needed)
any good movies?
void void
@golden gust Im talking vanilla vanilla, not spigot
golden gust
I know ๐
void void
cool ๐
golden gust
Paper is a fork of spigot which is a fork of craftbukkit
void void
movies, good will hunting or primal fear are some good ones ive seen recently
prime kraken
timber heron
delicate bronze
dapper nacelle
What is waterfall?
cursive bone
hot gorge
Waterfall is a fork of BungeeCord. It's a way to link servers together
coral bone
timber zodiac
arctic dawn
potent warren
hmmmmm
Why the heck is loadbefore messing with the next plugin load?
It's throwing me an IllegalStateException with the message Initial initialization when I have loadbefore on my plugin.yml file 
It seems that my plugin's classloader is being reused for the plugins I specify on loadbefore
Is this supposed to be happening?
golden gust
What's the error?
potent warren
It says Plugin already initialized
But what's happening is that when I specify a plugin on my loadbefore, that plugin gets loaded with my plugin's classloader instead
And other plugins work fine https://i.imgur.com/ZK65pEP.png
It's odd, because it doesn't happen with every plugin
Bukkit's class loader is super weird
cosmic raft
brazen vortex
quiet prism
void void
btw thanks @golden gust, server successfully migrated to paper ๐
modest wagon
foggy moth
placid thicket
#148 y tho
upper flicker
hiccup in the SCM polling plugin
should be fixed but not much to do but wait and see
raven oak
fallen oracle
Just build it 4 more times to be sure
quiet walrus
fallen oracle
Welcome everyone.
night stone
coarse urchin
f in the chat for 1.12.2
acoustic basin
I love the work paper has done
My server couldnโt even handle 1.14 before I got paper
west dove
rip
agile nebula
Damn, just set up a cluster of 1.12.2
acoustic basin
Rip
fading ibex
F for paper 1.12
livid echo
F
fading ibex
guess I'll update my server to 1.13 /shrug
west dove
will I still be able to get help if i'm using 1.12.2 or na
fading ibex
I don't think so
golden gust
Reasonably so
agile nebula
I mean, I'm not expending many bugs to appear anymore but still, bit saddened there's not going to be more 1.12.2 updates
livid echo
imma keep my server on 1.6.4 thank you very much
agile nebula
1.6.4 x_x
acoustic basin
I used to run 1.12, I see the appeal but I agree that itโs better to let go now then never, it gives the team more time to work on imprveing the new versions
livid echo
petition to make 1.15 the performance update
golden gust
General gist is that we have no further intents to maintain 1.12, We're stretch thin enough as is, and shamefully it takes too much energy to maintain 3 branches that in impacts the project as a whole
acoustic basin
Itโs already confirmed to be a combat update @livid echo
livid echo
petition to make 1.16 the performance update
golden gust
If you ask for support with 1.12.2, we'll probably slap you with a ruler, but I don't think we're being 1.8ish about it yet ๐
agile nebula
If dropping 1.12.2 support means more effort in getting 1.14/1.15 less laggy then I'm all for it ๐
acoustic basin
^
livid echo
dude 1.16 will be a good version
agile nebula
Even with my server being 1.12.2
fading ibex
I have one question, though
where could I still get 1.12.2 download for whatever reason in the future?
acoustic basin
@agile nebula I can help you update your server to 1.14 or 1.13 if you want
west dove
peak dirge
Sad that 1.12 support has been dropped, but it's understandable that you'd want to drop it considering that 1.13.2 is now largely free of issues.
fading ibex
They said they would remove that, @west dove
west dove
really?
livid echo
1.13 is a great update
fading ibex
yea
peak dirge
You can always build 1.12 from source
west dove
why lol
fading ibex
It's in the announcement
acoustic basin
Time to archive it and put it on a free website host
agile nebula
@acoustic basin I just got my servers up and running and finally stable, running 1.12.2. I think I'll just wait until 1.15 and even then if that is a lag-free build
upper flicker
Its on the API
worn ember
they wont remove the downloads
golden gust
^^
upper flicker
which is the supported download source that the downloads page pulls from
worn ember
they just wont provide support for it
upper flicker
like all legacy versions
Its just getting removed from the actual page, not the downloads API
west dove
oh okay
peak dirge
No hard feelings about dropping 1.12 from us, we forked Paper 1.12 anyway...
worn ember
just use paper downloader ๐
livid echo
mc 1.16 will be like cs 1.6, simply the best update
acoustic basin
flashes back to the time my server droped to sub-1 tps and all my 5 players timed out
worn ember
sounds like every modded server
fallen jungle
@acoustic basin Beat this
acoustic basin
Lol shortly after I found paper and running 20 smooth after playing in config
@fallen jungle w h a t h a p p e n d
fallen jungle
I have a uh, laptop ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
worn ember
sleepmode
agile nebula
Curious, if a server running 1.12.2 can just about handle 100 players, how many players would it be able to handle with 1.13?
livid echo
server decided to afk a bit
acoustic basin
@agile nebula 70-90?
golden gust
Issue with 1.13 isn't really around player count
agile nebula
hmm
golden gust
It's more around the fact that mojang rip'd entity performance with some other changes
worn ember
IRC 2.0 in the making
agile nebula
Well, entity count is usually tied to player count right?
fallen jungle
Light mode? It's going all wrong already
worn ember
no
agile nebula
At least that's what I thought
worn ember
players are entities but all mobs and item frames are entities too
golden gust
It's tied reasonably so
potent warren
@worn ember go back to working on your multiplayer snake game.
golden gust
"reduce entity counts" is overall advice for 1.13 and 1.14
worn ember
@potent warren i cant, i'm not using typescript
golden gust
It's getting better
worn ember
after they botched it
livid echo
i mean bedrock seems really nice rn
fallen jungle
Someone at Mojang's likes modern stuff. I still can't understand a bit of the DataFixerUpper though
worn ember
i bet thats their plan all along
void void
acoustic basin
I donโt like bedrock cause it doesnโt have the java feel
worn ember
to make java so trash everyone moves to bedrock
agile nebula
I'm not even running any sort of mob stacker on my 1.12 servers, are mob stackers a good idea for 1.12?
golden gust
The issue with the codebase is that it's 10 years old and really hasn't had enough time spent on modernising the codebase
livid echo
dude thats some conspiracy theory
acoustic basin
Like partacals donโt face you properly and there are 50+ missing fetuses/inconsistencies
golden gust
Mojang also needs to fuck off with the streams ๐ฆ
fallen jungle
electroniccat, are you able to read and understand the code of DataFixerUpper? ๐ค
static badge
golden gust
Not cared enough to try ๐
fallen jungle
You've done yourself a favor I'd say
acoustic basin
isnโt minecrFt code encrypted or something? I forgot the name
golden gust
What I've seen of it ain't too bad
fallen jungle
what
agile nebula
Genuinely curious on what the general consensus is on mob stackers for 1.12.2, for 100+ player count
golden gust
It's just one of those cases where the system is overengineered to all shit, but does it's job
fallen jungle
It's all full of optics, lenses and whatever
golden gust
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acoustic basin
@agile nebula imo you donโt need mob stackers on 1.12 I donโt use one on my 1.14 server and Iโm fine
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god thinking I was getting new glasses
agile nebula
Ah good to know @acoustic basin ๐
acoustic basin
But I have like 7 players so idk
acoustic basin
I sometimes get 10 tho :)
livid echo
10 players or tps
golden gust
General gist is see how it goes, mob stackers often introduce their own performance hits
acoustic basin
And bugs
acoustic basin
I tried mob stackers and b u g s so much
acoustic basin
It was said to support 1.14. But it added more red spam to consile and I already have too much
agile nebula
I tried a few different ones for 1.14, it did it's thing but not completely without issues
golden gust
Imho, better fix generally is to reduce your entity counts instead of tryna stack 'em
agile nebula
(Not that that really made a change regarding the TPS, was still in the toilet for 1.14)
golden gust
Mob stackers often kinda defeat the purpose as you're just spawning in mobs to kill and merge 'em, better off do it properly, if you wanna buff mobs, buff mobs
agile nebula
I saw a plugin that tries to do that even with player farms
livid echo
also from what i know generating the world lags it
acoustic basin
Whoever made that paper readstone new engine thing is amazing
golden gust
the eigencraft one?
That was done by the folks over in the eigencraft discord and ported by egg
acoustic basin
Oh ok
agile nebula
This being the one I mentioned earlier. Is something like this a good idea? Paper/Spigot configs only limit what the game spawns in automatically, not what players do with breeding. So am wondering if this could prevent players from making absurdly huge cow farms:
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/farm-limiter.1419/
golden gust
I mean, I'd probably look for a free one, used to be one that I used
The server itself also has entity cramming built in
acoustic basin
Sometimes when my players do /rtp the world doesnโt gen fast enough and they fall into the void or suffocate :)
agile nebula
I did reduce the entity collision limit thing, which I guess would limit something like that....yeah entity cramming
But I guess people could go around that by just having a larger area fenced off
void void
cedar spade
1.12.2 is dead, long live 1.7.10
agile nebula
I'd definitely prefer a free one as well. But 3.90 euros isn't much
I don't mind supporting developers (but only if it's something that merits a price tag)
golden gust
Yea, I just know that there is/was a free plugin that does that
It's probably more advanced than the free one, but ๐
golden gust
I don't think so
woeful hull
lol breeding limiter... omg xD that makes me think of the old days of 360 version where you could only have 8 wolves or glitched your way to 9
austere ivy
Ouch.
My computer canโt run 1.13
This basically means that if I update to 1.13, I canโt play on my own server.
Yikes.
cedar spade
Optifine + Foamfix
austere ivy
With them.
agile nebula
austere ivy
Itโs a 10 year old 1066MHz 4gb ram intel core 2 duo macbook
It really isnโt great.
I havenโt tried foam fix though Iโll try that, thanks.
heady spear
ping ping pong
austere ivy
upper flicker
City did you bring tacos?
austere ivy
@cedar spade are you sure I should install Forge just for FoamFix?
upper flicker
โค
austere ivy
Do you mean betterfps?
cedar spade
Never used BetterFps
austere ivy
Seems itโs only for 1.12.2 and below
Iโll hang out on 1.12.2 and see if 1.15 does any good changes. If not, Iโll jump onto 1.13.2 and just get a new computer lol
cedar spade
I thought FoamFix for 1.13.x used Rift not Forge anyway
just use ViaVersion and connect with a modded 1.14.4 client 
craggy valve
Is %16 1.12 users server amount or player amount that plays in those servers?
cedar spade
The 1.14.4 comment was a joke, but 1.14.3 + Optifine + FoamFix is genuinely the smoothest I've ever run Minecraft on my laptop, and I've run Bedrock on that thing
austere ivy
Sure, 1.12 has an aging codebade, sure
cedar spade
(disclaimer: I never ran anything below 1.13.0 on my current laptop)
austere ivy
But old code == bar code HOWEVER dealing with three code based is a PAIN
Yes
Me
MD try 1.12 and OptiFine on your laptop.
Then compare with your 1.14 with foam and optifine.
Look at a big village or world, not at the void.
Looking at โthingsโ is when 1.14 gets painfully bad to play at least for me.
upper flicker
16% is server usage
We don't track what % of version has what % players
It's not relevant to our decisions and it's probably too identifiable
pulsar wigeon
the skew is only due to the small number of servers with large numbers of players
they have the resources to maintain their own forks anyway
limber knotBOT
so i think I am stuck
minecraft doesnt support sni, right?
so there is no proper way for a tcp reverse proxy to act upon, right?
golden gust
You have the handshake packet
limber knotBOT
mmmh, maybe traefik allows me to implement a custom middleware
small carbon
Wouldnt it be cool if paper supported 1.8
limber knotBOT
no.
golden gust
lol
limber knotBOT
It would be cool if 1.8 died ;)
small carbon
xD
limber knotBOT
or well, died after than its currently dying
ruby sky
so. paper #1618 will be latest for 1.12.2?
golden gust
brb, releasing new 1.8 pay vay pay server
We don't intend to touch 1.12.2
We might reconsider if something super mega urgent comes up, but I doubt it
worn ember
no u
ruby sky
maybe offtop (idk), does anyone have a "fake-death" bug when player logging in?
quick gust
Whos the guy running papers site fucking up cache lmao
fallen oracle
Good work on the update Z
pulsar wigeon
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LUL
worn ember
thanks for dropping my kids
austere ivy
Ok wow time to find dupes
novel urchin
void void
I know one kid that made so many duping books that he just crashed the server over and over again
lol
it was in sp too
rustic vine
austere ivy
Nice
void void
no i just want 24 dubs of shit
latent sorrel
Are there garbage collection parameters to add onto my client to help it work better with less RAM like on servers? Im doing a thing that needs my render distance on 32 but unless I give it like 25GB of ram it starts laggin hard after like 15mins (with 15GB). I can give it 30GB if it wants it but it still lags out eventually just takes longer between restarts. Its like it doesnt ever clear it out like the server does.
cosmic raft
LTX is fun
latent sorrel
whats LTX? Ive been to PAX
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no obv he's there but gucci sandals
void void
cosmic raft
what is that
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reference to 18
cosmic raft
18?
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yes ltx 18
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rip
glacial sluice
Thanks for dropping 1.12.2 support when theres 2 active dupes, 3 server crash exploits and more bugs still present
vestal jasper
No problem
glacial sluice
im not crying you're crying
vestal jasper
They don't have enough people to sustain supporting 3 versions and actively accepting patches for them
floral berry
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what dupe/crash issues were there
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pretty sure plugins can target that one
void void
In trying to preload my world but it keeps crashing from overhead limit
and ideas how to fix it
golden gust
Too much bullshit to keep fixing it
And then you fix one thing and you break some mechanism and even more people cry
static badge
so mojang does need to fix it
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if it keeps crashing you've got a memory leak or you're not providing enough memory
void void
then donkies are literally fucking useless lol
quasi cosmos
golden gust
That was fixed unless it came back
Mojang really doesn't know how to deal with anything like teleportation
static badge
pretty sure prevent moving into unloaded chunks was the fix
golden gust
Theres deeper issues due to how entities are treated
golden gust
The sad part is is that many of the duplication issues are unfixable due to maintainability issues, others can't really be fixed without breaking other things and upsetting a bunch of other people, and some are just inherent to how stuff works
e.g. entity moving too fast is a royale bitch
glacial sluice
You can dupe items in item-frames using pistons atm
void void
good to know
glacial sluice
And there is a invincibility mode that gives you almost spectator mode level by glitching yourself out on a pig
You can hit people but they cant see you etc
glacial sluice
You can also still crash servers with books of a certain type
And a few other things
TPS lag by switching to your offhand hundreds of times a second etc
It's a pretty bad state but thankfully the larger devs on spigotmc have made some plugins to patch them
Oh yeah donkey dupe came back within days
Mojang really screwed up vehicles of all types tbh
austere ivy
Can I become the maintainer of 1.12?
I could go through the patches and such to make sure dupes are fixed.
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if you can actually dm me detailed steps to produce a bunch of this stuff I can look into fixing them
austere ivy
I know Iโm not well suited for it but itโs better than nothing.
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whether or not they can go into paper is another question I can't answer
austere ivy
Mainly I have a server on 1.12.2 right now so that could help me.
glacial sluice
Unfortunately I don't know the details to reproduce most things I listed but I can definitely find out
void void
How do you fix memory leaks again
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you generally don't fix them but rather you take heap dumps to find out what's causing them
void void
Yeah Iโve been running wb and fill command for the past few days
fallen oracle
๐คฆ
void void
Thing is it keeps crashing when I set the frequency super low
default was 20, did it to 5, still crashes
limber knotBOT
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
golden gust
I'd suggest using them, if you're actually leaking, you'll need to start going down the whole "dealing with heapdumps" path
void void
Yay 1.12 is finally being discontinued. Now people do not have an excuse to not take the time to properly convert their worlds and update their plug-ins to 1.14
glacial sluice
idk if it's my server hardware but when i use those flags in the article the thing goes to shit
I've stopped using flags at all
void void
Those flags don't work correctly on pterodactyl. It is a known bug, I talked to the staff. It triggers pterodactyl's internal oom killer when it shouldn't.
Even with pretouch left out
limber knotBOT
They do sometimes need to be tuned
And the issue with ptero is relevant without aikars flags
Aikars flags just make it happen faster because you're telling it to actually use all the memory you've been allocated, unless you've left enough room for overhead, if Xmx == what is set in ptero, you're setup for a crash
[RockyTV] is there a plugin that logs block break events to the console?
golden gust
if you want useful block logging, you probably want coreprotect or something similar
limber knotBOT
[RockyTV] something's breaking my redstone comparators and I want to find out what is happening. 4th time in a row that it happened
tulip lotus
Hey, I'm a bit dumb and stuff, I downloaded Paper server 1.14.4 latest update and I was wondering if there is a gui or something and how can I start the server to be exact xD
golden gust
No built in GUI
tulip lotus
How do I start the server if I may ask? thanks in advance
golden gust
How to launch it depends on the OS, but generally a bat file/shell script, java -jar paper.jar as minimum
.flags if you wanna be fancy
limber knotBOT
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
cedar herald
flags should be a necessity 
exotic coral
fair pecan
exotic coral
HELLO @fair pecan
tulip lotus
Can someone help me with something? I want to know which site you guys use for getting plugins, thank you โค Version is 1.14.4
azure patio
spigot resources?
azure patio
craftbukkit and spigot plugins works on paper
tulip lotus
Then which one are the better ones?
alpine pier
golden gust
Majority of your plugins are going to come from either spigots site or bukkits
Some plugins, e.g. WG, haven't been moved from bukkits site
Some plugins moved over/started on spigot
void void
I'm having major tps issues on my recently launched 1.14.4 server with 30+ online. I've optimized it as much as I could using a popular guide on the spigot forums.
If anyone helps me locate and fix the lag I'll pay you 30 euro PayPal.
DM me if you're able to help. I can supply timings and whatever required.
azure patio
golden gust
ah shit, the shop downstairs would have closed
I gotta try and figure out how to get photo ID, pita trying to find people who can actually sign that stuff
(One of the major store chains around here literally requires ID for energy drinks and stuff)
tribal osprey
azure patio
๐ค what country?
tranquil bone
Is that a coincidence or does discord have a rhyme thing lol
golden gust
UK
Tesco for some reason decided to prevent under 16s purchasing energy drinks because ev0l
Buuuut, there are literally stores everywhere which sell it, just not many open at this time of night that I know accept cards \o/
tranquil bone
Never would've thought that you'd be a brit
azure patio
^
golden gust
How so? ๐
tranquil bone
Not sure, most brits are very outspoken and use their slang if that's what you can call it
azure patio
You just doesn't feel like you are from UK, you're missing that UK aura, or how to call it
tranquil bone
I've never heard the lads 'n the pals from you
tranquil bone
Hahaha
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should've invited him over for tea
golden gust
You forgot the scones u dum fuq
void void
Ello
tranquil bone
Couldn't, didn't have crumpets in house
golden gust
Oh, god
See, I was looking at some code last night, and we must have had some mob that dropped cat meat
void void
Welcome to the rice fields motherfucker
golden gust
I had a task which would turn that stuff into cooked "chicken" when cooked... ๐
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.g cat meat minecraft
limber knotBOT
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golden gust
It was lored rabbit meat
tranquil bone
electro, is paper the only thing you do?
void void
eat shit
tranquil bone
or do you manage something of your own on the side
golden gust
I was working on some project, but management was ass and I gave up on the staff team \o/
Kinda wanna start my own stuff now, just not sure I wanna start burning that candle ๐
tranquil bone
Why wouldn't you?
golden gust
burnout is real man
golden gust
The last server I was doing stuff for was killing me
tranquil bone
I feel that, I get overwhelmed too with my server sometimes
It can get really crazy haha, I know your feeling
golden gust
Oh, it's worse than that
worn ember
get a real job maybe?
tranquil bone
You can make a real job out of Minecraft
worn ember
i mean, a real job is probably even more repetitive tho
tranquil bone
Yeah, that is also when you will be treated like a dumb fuck
worn ember
whut
golden gust
I mean, the server literally wasn't open for a year because it was being refreshed and stuff, staff members pulled out and I was basically left with one of those people who want to do everything but are either incapable of doing it or just can't be fucked to do it properly, and somebody else who was just literally... urgh...
worn ember
sounds like every server i helped with
tranquil bone
I'm trying to say that by working for a "real job"you're most of the times just a minion
worn ember
those fucks shouldve been happy to have had you
i'd kill for a developer like you lol
golden gust
They seemed to have more time to make excuses around the servers existence and progress than actually making progress; A pretty critical part of how people join the game that I'd asked for for months is still 1/2 done
tranquil bone
Pretty sure electro works for vouchers
digital talon
I rely more on plugins than on staffmembers ๐
tranquil bone
u wot
worn ember
replace the humans
golden gust
mfw I had to idiot proof setting people ranks
I literally have a command on the server dedicated to changing peoples ranks because god forbid I had to explain how to use LP
(Actually, one area that GM seems to handle better: primary groups)
digital talon
just a small citybuild/freebuild server. My expierence from the last ~3 years is that you have to do everything on your own if you want to get it done
tulip lotus
So uhm, sorry to bother again, what plugins are necessary for a good server (Pardon my 2 brain cells)
digital talon
I started sorting the plugins by most downloads to see whats kind of common for most servers
sturdy fulcrum
tulip lotus
Thank you guys in advance โค
azure patio
What type of server you want is important
tulip lotus
Survival / Factions