#general
austere ivy
namesilo vs namecheap?
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What do you guys think, would be the best way to create an instanced system?
marble summit
F
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For dungeons etc.
Starting up tons of server seems a bad way
Creating every time a new world?
Setup a pre defined amount of x worlds?
void void
I'm under 18
idk i bought my first domain when i was 13-14
nobody asked my age
except that my friend paid because i of course didn't have cc
vestal jasper
I got my first domain when I was like 16
pearl ibex
Let's say i wanr free stuff (like a VPS and that kind of stuff) for being a college student... i already have the JetBrains student stuff they offer, but i'm asking for suggestions on what to choose in the matter of "web services", though AWS for students looks promising. 
void void
digitalocean us ed to give like 100 dollar free credit
pearl ibex
Is it renewable? AFAIK it isn't.
void void
no lol you are not going to find anywhere that gives you a yearly credit for being a student
i guess aws does, but honestly aws/gcloud credits are childsplay baits. you take it, you're stuck on some low shit because anything higher will drain it faster than you can say "cool I got a new vps!"
random escarp
somebody was very busy yeterday, 6 consecutive releases in one day
void void
you talking about paper or a plugin
random escarp
paper
void void
its not that uncommon here
random escarp
( also notices dynmap had a n update (nice))
void void
any commit will be a new build # :p
cunning badge
some stuff got merged yesterday
random escarp
ah oke, well in the past month ive only seen about one paper release a day
void void
end of development cycle
random escarp
so i was surpised to see like 8 in one night
well anyway thanks devs for the great work
void void
as 1.14.4 just dropped, there will be many until the bugs are all slowly squashed out
and then it'll be mainly feature requests
void void
yes
you can't do that anyway
before that, if you tried, the server would try to load the chunk and potentially corrupt the fuck out of it
that commit stops it from even trying to load it
and therefore, stop corrupting the fuck out of it
cunning badge
Ah okay didnt know it would corrupt the map
never downgraded tbh
Makes sense then, was jsut confused why you would system.exit if there has been a chunk saved iwth a never mc version
limber knotBOT
[VADemon] > realms player complains about recently reduced view-dist
void void
Also "You can override this functionality at your own peril."
limber knotBOT
[VADemon] ohoho why's that
quasi canyon
anyone know if the command block that teleports you to every chunk to load it still works in 1.14 🤔
grand pewter
@quasi canyon it's probably more efficient to use worldborder https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/worldborder.60905/
void void
limber knotBOT
somebody here has experience with sentinel?
the pathfinding for attacking is really wonky
as it walks to a spot and then tries to attack me
do any of you know of a way to make that smoother?
limber knotBOT
tfw you report an issue and see you are a contributor, lol https://i.imgur.com/xeja6Zu.png
golden gust
'nuff said, really
limber knotBOT
I updated bstats on citizens last year ^^
golden gust
What world?
hides the nukes behind his back
Oh god, crazy thought; You know how you have slow blow fuses
Imagine slow blow missiles
People are panicing like FUUUU, and then one lands in front of them, they're just like "fuckin' brits and their useless missles" and then BOOM, no more MiniDigger
void void
I think there's a bug in spigot but i know i will get more attention here
golden gust
THEY'RE SLOW BLOW
void void
so the probably bug is with Block#breakNaturally
i have this code:
Block toRemove = new Location(player.getWorld(), playerLocation.getX(),
playerLocation.getY() - 1,
playerLocation.getZ(), playerLocation.getYaw(), playerLocation.getPitch()).getBlock();
toRemove.breakNaturally();
The block gets broken and the player falls, that's alright, but then the block where the player fall gets broken!
golden gust
Well, how is that code being called?
void void
List<Player> playing = game.getPlaying()
.parallelStream()
.map(Bukkit::getPlayer)
.collect(Collectors.toList());
for (Player player : playing) {
player.setAllowFlight(false);
player.setFlying(false);
player.setGameMode(GameMode.SURVIVAL);
player.getInventory().clear();
Location playerLocation = player.getLocation();
Block toRemove = new Location(player.getWorld(), playerLocation.getX(),
playerLocation.getY() - 1,
playerLocation.getZ(), playerLocation.getYaw(), playerLocation.getPitch()).getBlock();
toRemove.breakNaturally();
}
the test i did was on spigot 1.14.4 and i don't know if the "bug" exists on older versions
@golden gust sorry for ping, but any updates?
void void
parallel streams are faster than the normal (subsequent or how it was named) streams
pulsar wigeon
did you benchmark that
void void
there was a benchmark on the internet, let me find it
pulsar wigeon
did you benchmark it for your case
we're not processing huge amounts of data here
you are collecting the contents of some already iterable collections
you could just loop the original collection
golden gust
I'm tired and have a headache
cunning badge
Im tired at work at 36° and got a headache
golden gust
You're also ban evading and going to your usual techniques where you're expecting us to provide a fix when you wanna provide minimal info as possible
o/
quasi valley
sad violine music starts playing
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🎻
pulsar wigeon
well that code was retarded
cunning badge
true
pulsar wigeon
so good
quasi valley
just use streams everywhere, it'll make your code better /s
cunning badge
I remember everybody telling me that streams are so much better
pulsar wigeon
why would you copy a location manually to change one value and give yaw and pitch even if you just need to get a block from it
streams can be
depends highly on what you're doing
golden gust
They look prettier and are nice in some places, just they have their own set of overheads, if that's an issue or not ^^
cunning badge
what are they good for?
quasi valley
I mean for that case it made the code even longer than it could have been without one
cunning badge
Does .forEach use streams?
golden gust
no
cunning badge
thats still just a simple for loop right?
golden gust
Streams are good for well, working with a stream of data
pulsar wigeon
parallel streams are great if you have large amounts of data that can actually be split and chunked
imagine you have a million numbers you need to sum
golden gust
Really nice for working with data which you wanna filter, map to other things, etc, etc
pulsar wigeon
you can sum them in batches of 10000 in parallel and hen sum the results of each batch
that's where you see perf
cunning badge
yea im using them for stuff like this
pulsar wigeon
and yea, the whole functional part is nice for separate reasons
that is one where it's just for convenience
lso i cant help but think you should be using a map
golden gust
Yea
pulsar wigeon
unless you want someone to friend request another player multiple times
cunning badge
wym?
pulsar wigeon
getPending returns some list type of all pending friend requests?
pulsar wigeon
is that friends or pending
cunning badge
Yea I got a relation table
fallen oracle
Why is it a Boolean?
pulsar wigeon
can barty add me as a friend even if i dont want to be his friend?
pulsar wigeon
but i wont be in his friends list if i dont accept?
cunning badge
and if you accept it I create two entries
pulsar wigeon
it has to be mutual
cunning badge
no you wont be in there
fallen oracle
But why do you have it as a Boolean?
pulsar wigeon
then you dont have to do two way lookups
fallen oracle
Yuck
pulsar wigeon
and dont design your data to fit your backend tbh
fallen oracle
So you're planning to do live queries instead of saved intervals?
pulsar wigeon
sql allows defaults
cunning badge
No im loading the friends on login and remove them on logout
and yes im doing live queries on save
fallen oracle
Hmm okay
fallen oracle
Ik
cunning badge
Yea I should bulk those
fallen oracle
R
pulsar wigeon
you know you can make one big query in sql right
cunning badge
I know
pulsar wigeon
k
cunning badge
Well friend requests are done so rarely so the query shouldnt be the problem
pulsar wigeon
do you keep a list of changes to commit to db
quasi valley
that mindset of "it'll work for our needs" eventually made it impossible for us to go over X players as everything went nuts every time
pulsar wigeon
oh wait you are saving immediately as the request is made?
cunning badge
@pulsar wigeon yes
fallen oracle
Oh no
pulsar wigeon
cunning badge
its going against a backend written in js over deepstream websockets
golden gust
@wizground starts shaking
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and saved using sequel
pulsar wigeon
man here i was thinking that streams were the problem
sweet ignorance, return to me
golden gust
cunning badge
Eleborate please
Well I took over the project from someone that has been living this mindset compleatly. The code was in a horrible state (we had one plugin for each of this modules)
quasi valley
oh boy
cunning badge
So I cleaned the stuff up, added multi threading and merged over 30 plugins into one
pulsar wigeon
yea tf
cunning badge
So im trying to slowly cleanup and get a working structure of over 580 classes
(recode might have been faster)
pulsar wigeon
is merging plugins supposed to be a good thing
quasi valley
do api and core structure into one, everything else should be a separate project
because again, scalability
pulsar wigeon
do you at least have a modular lodmading system
cunning badge
yes
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golden gust
I just keep it all in a single project because designing stuff to be so abstract is a royal PITA
quasi valley
golden gust
It's not worth it for a personal project
pulsar wigeon
depends a lot on scope
quasi valley
we have one 200kb core plugin (and like 20mb of depends in an extra jar), everything else is their own project
pulsar wigeon
organization is nice but it doesnt have to be 30 jars
quasi valley
but also not one... like the screen above
pulsar wigeon
could be 30 submodules that get shoved into 1 jar
golden gust
If i was going OTT and releasing something public, sure, maybe; But everything gets to be too interdependent on one another, e.g. user management would pretty much have to be in the core or have everything depend on it, it gets a mess fast
cunning badge
Well I dont prefer having 30 repositories
pulsar wigeon
i meant gradle subprojects, not git submodules, to be clear
cunning badge
The correct way would be creating a main pom and adding 30 modules
I guess gradle subprojects should be the same
pulsar wigeon
basically
quasi valley
for us the plugins look more or less like this per server: core, specific gamemode, party, friends, clans, maybe 1-2 more (+ more general stuff like ProtocolLib, Via, ...)
cunning badge
Idk all plugins ive worked on (which were single server software) had a single module. At my company we are also only splitting the stuff into backend/frontend/api
The plugins always supported 200+ players on a single server
with 18+ tps
pulsar wigeon
yes but now you're trying to clean up 600 classes
cunning badge
Got any reference project that has been damn well done?
Im always up to learn new stuff
golden gust
Basically, with modules you'd jusst work as normal, you would need to consider your design however to avoid issues such as circular dependencies, etc
cunning badge
I can't see the advantage here?
golden gust
It's more about containing stuff into modules
pulsar wigeon
it about not opening your main package and seeing 30 subpackages
it's just organizational
if you like 30 subpackages go for it
quasi valley
package != modular structure
quasi valley
scalability :D
e.g. if you want test devs that shouldnt have the entire implementation of your core at their will -> api module
cunning badge
Yea thats a good reason, but we wont have any test devs
quasi valley
it's just making your future self's life easier
and essentially the reason why most small servers fail sooner or later
or even big ones
cunning badge
Yea thats a good point
quasi valley
we also have a ton of subpackages, but that's literally only api https://kennytv.eu/files/8sh9g.png
gamemodes and other projects that are adapted and changed quite often are then made in different modules (or mostly entirely different projects, so that we just dont have to throw them on every server/have 20 different modules in a project)
golden gust
See, The reason why I didn't bother going the whole "2000 modules!" is because I felt it was kinda pointless and such a PITA was to avoid ^
I was going to do it originally as I wanted to be able to take advantage of gradles magics better
But I really doubt that with how fast gradle is that it really matters
unreal quarry
My plugins tend to have only a handful of packages: command, config, hook, listener, task, util.
Very rarely will I have 1-2 more specific to the project
pulsar wigeon
golden gust
See, the fun part is the java source
CommandLore is pulled from a plugin that I had to update manually, felt better to just grab the class until I replace it
And then, the componenthandler package is my component stuff, because kotlin and generics...
wind sonnet
Good hosting for 1.14.4?
golden gust
1.14 is still going to suck for performance no matter where you host it
wind sonnet
Omgserv unlimited?
cunning badge
Well all those packages compleatly depend on each other
your guys plugins are more likely all single pugins that dont have any dependencies right?
outer parcel
because they overallocate CPU space
and "unlimited" plans are always a scam
Hetzner is good for Europe, yeah. Falkenstein datacenter just turned 10 so it's waiving setup fees too.
On the EX line.
So, the state of 1.14 is that it's unusable?
cunning badge
With leaf's async hcunk loading patch its actually going pretty good
outer parcel
I have a feeling that we're not gonna see a viable 1.14 release
and that mojang is just gonna be like
cunning badge
paper improved performance a lot
outer parcel
1.15 the actually fucking runs well update
outer parcel
Yeah... my community is maintaining a fork of 1.13.2 tacospigot that we've patched almost 100 changes onto
It's starting to get good for large volumes of players
wind sonnet
And contabo?
outer parcel
Contabo is pretty fucking garbage
golden gust
"powerful minecraft hosting" generally doesn't go with "shared host"
vapid parcel
void void
welcome
outer parcel
I've been considering opening a small time hosting provider with dedicated resources
Paying for a share of a dedicated, managed machine
no
outer parcel
i7-8700 from hetzner maybe
golden gust
Because you're not going to have a good price ratio on an i7
Part of the reason why hosting providers use xeons is because they can fit a metric fuckton of servers on a box
outer parcel
yeah, so i wouldn't do that
i mean, the ex-42 nvme is only 39 euro
reasonably a server can only take advantage of 2 threads unless they're doing special parallelization
lusty wren
wait,
With leaf's async hcunk loading patch its actually going pretty good
?
outer parcel
yes im aware
golden gust
How do you think dedicated resources would work on a machine where you literally have 8 "cores"?
outer parcel
by advertising it transparently, pricing it at 15EUR/dedicated core, and making a profit
golden gust
The only way for dedicated resources and decent filling of the box is to start cutting CPU time between servers, or charge a fair amount for true dedicated
outer parcel
Not really tryna profit off it, it's just kinda a void in the market
There's no managed hosting that isn't shit or 4 figures
golden gust
Bearing in mind that you'd technically lose a core to the OS itself
outer parcel
that's a fair point
golden gust
"Managed hosting" implies that you have somebody managing all aspects of maintaining the server
outer parcel
or it implies that the hardware is managed
golden gust
Nope
I've never heard of "managed hosting" mean "we care about just the hardware", that's literally part of any standard SLA
outer parcel
i wouldn't shit on the longest standing gameserver provider LOL
golden gust
Longest standing doesn't mean shit
That's not managed hosting in the way you think it is
That's basically just shared hosting only you've been given your own special box to yourself
outer parcel
what the fuck do you think shared hosting is?
saying special box and shared don't go together
shared means shared resources
golden gust
managed in terms of shared hosting and managed in terms of a managed dedicated server are two different aspects
Sure, you lose the "shared" aspect as you're not sharing resources, but that is not a truly managed dedicated server
outer parcel
i'd still offer support lol
it'd just be that you arent SHARING resources
and you'd be paying a premium for that privilege
shit, is 15 EUR even a premium?
golden gust
That's just a standard shared hosting setup in which the box is limited to you, nothing really special with that
managed hosting itself is more "we'll configure nginx, cpanel, deal with all of that for you" etc
Not, "We'll give you access to a control panel which we nabbed from elsewhere", it's why the pricing of truly managed hosting is expensive as you're paying tech time
I've worked with DCs which literally charge $50 an hour for their tech team to look at your server
outer parcel
I'm not trying to make money
I'd just keep running my minecraft server if I wanted money
I already have an excellent job
No, fun and as a service to the community.
I'm 30 and already have a job that I want.
golden gust
Honestly, shared hosting is fine, so long as you know what you're expecting
I wouldn't go tell a guy and his 3 mates to go get a dedi/vps for a simple MC server, especially as the load of it, wonder how a pi 4 would cope
outer parcel
so
what service exists for non-technical users that dont want to deal with linux or the command line to have a pleasant server hosting experience for public servers
golden gust
looks at all the hosting providers out there
potent halo
Minecraft is all fun and games until someone loses a block
golden gust
There comes a point where your only real expansion path is to either learn how to do it or pay somebody to do it for you
golden gust
dos
8 years old
DIscord makes ironic hashtags a PITA with the crappy tab completion
But, dam, ur ol
potent halo
im 32
golden gust
OL
golden gust
24, kinda wish I had some vintage hardwares to toy with
Kinda really wanna get an acorn
I did buy a USB floppy drive but it was busted, was kinda sad about that 😦
potent halo
the joy of installing a 6 floppy disk game 😛
outer parcel
hot gorge
Rage quit and returned?
hot gorge
Mods here are more tolerant than I would be lol.
upper flicker
Feel like wiz probably isn't the bar you wanna use for moderator tolerance
Just throwing that out there
pulsar wigeon
tbf barty i wasnt the one to ban you
upper flicker
What if we take all the mods and push them somewhere else
pearl ibex
Z! o/
upper flicker
Hi landis o/
pearl ibex
How ya doin'?
golden gust
What's a landis?
left swift
A country
pearl ibex
Landis: entity who uses to annoy people on Paper's Discord server. /s
left swift
The lost city of a landis
golden gust
believable
pearl ibex
My current mission is to get free renewable stuff for being a student, kinda like the JetBrains thingy. 👌
acoustic pilot
new meme born, get ready for the rise of "trimp" lol
mueller doing a congressional testimony right now and said trimp instead of trump
upper flicker
Please 👏 stop 👏 doing 👏 network 👏 and IO 👏 on the main thread 👏
acoustic pilot
never
silver mesa
pulsar wigeon
i like how cat points people on github to the forums instead of discord
"go rot over there where no one cares"
:^)
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pssht dont leak him
thats how he redirects people to places where no one else will ever find them again
golden gust
Pretty sure he was banned on discord
quasi valley
a hellalot changed :p
in 2019.2
well, at least more general visual changes to the actual code editor window than usual
quasi valley
apparently, got the balloon like half an hour ago
fallen oracle
Ooo, care to show what looks different? I'm at school for 8 hours
fallen oracle
Interesting
quasi valley
.. didnt yet find the update notes other than their confluence issues, maybe I'm just bad at googling
potent halo
honestly if someone gets banned on a discord for using at everyone, its the discord owner's fault for giving anybody perms to use at everyone 
fallen oracle
I know someone said it earlier and I totally forgot what they said but is there a way so when you create a new object in a class it'll tell you what values need to be used for each part instead of only when you haven't entered anything yet?
Kenny, update logs should be linked when you told it to update
quasi valley
yeah but I.. just didnt :D
fallen oracle
Lol okay
quasi valley
my brain is currently melting a bit in the heat
fallen oracle
Yeah it's defo hot
quasi valley
also, on windows it is ctrl+p
fallen oracle
To make it show the variables needed?
quasi valley
ye
pulsar wigeon
fallen oracle
Not entirely sure what this means but it sounds awesome
We’ve added a new intention that you can run to transform a method with multiple returns into a single exit point and prepare it for the Inline Method refactoring.
limber knotBOT
[wizjany] ' We’ve gone to great lengths to optimize the startup performance, so you should feel a boost as soon as your start the IDE.' hmmmmm
quasi valley
return foo.one() ? "1" : foo.two() ? "2" : foo.three() ? "3" : ... 
pulsar wigeon
likely assigns a local
String res;
if () {res = "1"}
else if () { res = "2"}
return res;
tbh i am not a huge fan of changing that just for the hell of it
compiler can probably figure out what's better anyway
fallen oracle
That new duplicate code thing looks cool
fallen oracle
No I mean the update they did to if
It
I have ultimate (:
They have profiling tools now, interesting.
pulsar wigeon
i am not quite sure what's new about that tbh?
that's how i remember the duplicate thing working before as well
tho it's been like 4 years since i've used it so idk
quasi valley
also, unless it already existed and I disabled it, that now takes up half of your building console https://kennytv.eu/files/twbjl.png
quasi valley
oh well, good to have anyways
pulsar wigeon
but gradle had a way to swap between them
quasi valley
ah
pulsar wigeon
log view and task ui view kind thing
fallen oracle
Wahooo borderless look now
I'm confused, it's telling me to check out what's new in IJ 2019.1.3
When it tells me to download .2
pulsar wigeon
huh
fallen oracle
Ooooo
Wait I'm really confused now
Maybe I don't have the .2 full yet
Gradle now has a dependencies diagram, interesting.
@quasi valley yeah they said in the update the sync output is shown in the build tools window now
Yeah I'll just assume .2 isn't fully rolled out yet, it's not showing I have an update for it yet.
tame pendant
Anyone know what's up with the 1.14.3 combat test? Is that something theyre gonna add in 1.15 or something?
limber knotBOT
its a test
to collect feedback
and yes, that feedback will impact future releases
tame pendant
ok cool
pulsar wigeon
there's been no word as to when it will actually get added (if at all)
but safe to think they are going to incorporate the things people like at some point
fallen oracle
Ooo I like the new design for .2
rose pier
Hey
fallen oracle
Welcome.
void void
Thanks I have a question it might sound stupid regarding paper minecraft. On the download page on the papermc site I found a paper jar with numbers beside it and just paper.jar which one is for client use? This way I'll remember for future reference
rose pier
Have you guys upgraded to 1.14.4? What has your experience been? (Especially if you upgraded from 1.14.3.)
fallen oracle
Both jars are the same maddog.
rose pier
@void void The one without numbers is most likely just the latest one you see with numbers.
Server.
fallen oracle
You can just grab them from here https://papermc.io/downloads
timber kindle
latent sorrel
Hey everyone. So I have been doing a lot of research this morning about the garbage collection options for java and the different flags and how they work in an attempt to make a better start file than I was using before. MC pages and posts on it all basically seem to use the same set of flags with very minor changes.
When I looked around a bit more I found some suggestions in a non MC related page and looking at what the flags do it seems like a much better option and in (very short) testing it seems to use 7% less cpu on average (old was 31% steady, new is 24% steady) and 1GB less RAM as well.
So I was wondering if anyone was able to tell me what you think about my new flags and if I am missing some obvious reason as to why every MC post I can find doesn't use ANY of these options.
@echo off
java -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DoEscapeAnalysis -XX:+UseFastAccessorMethods -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=100 -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+UseBiasedLocking -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:ParallelGCThreads=8 -Xms4G -Xmx20G -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -Dsun.rmi.dgc.server.gcInterval=3600000 -jar paper-131.jar
pause
agile salmon
pulsar wigeon
doesn't use any of these
quasi valley
pulsar wigeon
i think most of those overlap with aikar's flags?
latent sorrel
aikars flags?
pulsar wigeon
what exactly are you comparing to?
golden gust
For one, XX:+UseFastAccessorMethods, was disabled by oracle years ago due to it causing bugs with JIT
the gc one has been advised in a few docs, biasedlocking has been mentioned elswhere too
latent sorrel
Ill take a peek at aikars. I was comparing to:
@echo off
java -Xms4G -Xmx25G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=100 -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:G1NewSizePercent=50 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=80 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=35 -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -Dusing.aikars.flags=mcflags.emc.gs -jar paper-131.jar
pause
golden gust
Otherwise, your flags are mostly what was old and passed around many years ago
CMS doesn't cope with stable uptimes
pulsar wigeon
🤦
golden gust
Nor does it deal with large heaps well, might deal with it fine when the heap is still small but that's going to suck if you actually start using that much memory
pulsar wigeon
25g max lol
latent sorrel
?
I have it set higher while we generate the map and do some large world edits
Like, several hundred million blocks at a time large
pulsar wigeon
i'd say setting up a map and doing large worldedit shouldn't be representative of day-to-day server usage
that will change things a lot
latent sorrel
I always hear back and forth about max java size. My understanding is its best to limit it small
No world edits were happening while i tested
pulsar wigeon
yes, 25g is not really small
your ram is going to fill up slowly...
and then GC is going to be like "holy shit i have a lot of work to do"
it's like letting dishes pile up in the sink
latent sorrel
Yea when its live it will be 10GB
golden gust
With G1, excess memory is used fine, CMS on the other hand does not deal with mcs allocation well, and you will suffer GC burnout after a few dozen hours of uptime
latent sorrel
Is CMS better if I do 2 or 3 restarts in a 24 hour period?
golden gust
Using CMS I had to restart every 24 hours otherwise TPS would drop off pretty sharply, 24 hours was sooomewhat in the mud but not too much that it was an issue (was dead of night anyways so 1/2 people on)
latent sorrel
Yea I had planned on regular restarts. When I used to play heavily servers had to restart multiple times per day. If I use the other flags I can do for days at a time without a restart though in the newer versions?
Or is it still good even without CMS to restart reguarly
pulsar wigeon
if you strive for 24 hour uptime, you don't want to have to do restarts regularly
really depends on if you have "quiet" periods throughout the day or not
rose pier
Restarts seem to be necessary.
After a couple of days my server starts performing noticeably worse even with few players.
Does 1.4.4 actually have better performance?
pulsar wigeon
well i wasn't necessarily talking 1.14 specific tbh
yes, 1.14 is 🚮 and jvm flags will only help so much anyway
latent sorrel
im on 1.14.3 at the moment, will make a fresh backup and test 1.14.4 tonight prolly
short raptor
limber knotBOT
i had my 1.14.3 servers running for more than a week without restarts.
it is definitely possible
i only restart them for updates
void void
Do you only have 1 player without boat transportation in the server
oblique scaffold
void void
spiral garden
woah
got an email from Alex over at topsoftwaredevelopmentcompany.com
he wants to develop a pyramid scheme app with me
how cool!
(but seriously wtf i put up an email on my github profile like 2 days ago and i'm already getting spam)
austere ivy
Morning, folks.
I wish I got junk email.
Not like spam email, but actual junk email from REAL PEOPLE that I can CHOOSE to ignore.
Instead, it's only this:
I am literally living in Colombia.
austere ivy
I can PERSONALLY TELL all of you that Colombian and Brazilian women are not that great.
austere ivy
AMERICAN GIRLS are better.
pulsar wigeon
white girls suck tbh :^)
austere ivy
Not that I'm really attracted to girls atm (well I am but I don't want to date 👀, because dating when you're 15 is super lame)
spiral garden
at some point i got 500+ emails/month from "Stormy Daniels"
spiral garden
they really wanted me to buy their male enlargement pills
no it was like your emails
austere ivy
The "appeal to male sex drive" emails come in waves for me.
If I scroll down a bit..
Very cool, I hate it.
Does anyone actually fall for this?
I mean someone has to fall for it for them to be able to keep sending mails.
spiral garden
yeah i don't see the point of these emails
austere ivy
I think the idea is..
I heard that the idea is, if they're smart enough to know it's junk, they'll probably mess around with them.
They make it as obvious as possible it's junk, so that way, if anyone calls, they know that they're either not very smart or elderly.
Which is horrible to do in my opinion, but it's not like they have any ethics.
spiral garden
at some point i was confused at companies giving like 500mb inboxes to their employees, but now I kinda get it
austere ivy
So, Mr. Flame, how do I get rid of these junk mails?
spiral garden
you should try to have an empty inbox if you can
austere ivy
Which company sold off my information >:(
I heard a trick where you put your middle name as the name of the website.
spiral garden
idk they stopped for me after a while ¯_(ツ)_/¯
austere ivy
That way you know who sold off your information.
I hope they stop for me.
I can barely use my email.
spiral garden
i love Google's spam filter
never had a spam email go to the inbox
although I've had false positives before
austere ivy
I wish I could switch to gmail.
But alas, tehbrian@gmail.com is taken >:(
h*cking Brian Pearson
he took TehBrian on Github
he took tehbrian.com
he took tehbrian@gmail.com
he took over tehbrian on steam
fallen oracle
Take his life.
austere ivy
he also graduated where I live and looks very identical to me
TAKE HIS LIFE
HE TOOK EVERYTHING FROM ME
NOW I TAKE EVERYTHING FROM HIM
(warning cringe ahead please do not associate this with me)
SUPER VILLAIN TIME T-poses
wide hazel
I usually wake up with my arm over my head cutting off circulation, but today's the first time it got so bad I couldn't feel or move it at all
Really weird
fallen oracle
Why do you wake up with your arm over your head?
fallen oracle
Have you ever tried sleeping in the burrito position?
fallen oracle
Start on one side of the bed. Put the covers over you and roll. You will not move throughout the night.
wide hazel
Lol
austere ivy
That's true, yes.
wide hazel
My girlfriend would murder me
fallen oracle
My friend said they taught him how to do that in the Marines or something so that they could sleep on bunks without falling off.
If you roll her up too she can't murder you.
wooden blade
What you don’t sleep suspended from the ceiling, hanging upside down?
spiral garden
4th grader me somehow made a nickname unique enough
that I've yet to see it taken anywhere
wooden blade
RáspberryGläré
runic crater
Quick question if we prerendered a 11k radius can you revert it to 6k and delete the chunks from radius 6k-11k?
pulsar wigeon
WB has trim
or you can just set your WB smaller and worry about the outer chunks later
merry talon
you get the emails because one person falling for it subsidizes 100000 more being sent
not an exaggeration
runic crater
@pulsar wigeon the issue is space on drive thats the thing went too big
pulsar wigeon
austere ivy
Wiz, can I
austere ivy
@void void
void void
im ok w itt
void void
same
austere ivy
If anything's remotely important, please tag me.
limber knotBOT
[wizjany] muting servers doesn't prevent pings
void void
exactly my style
void void
small servers of 20
i dont mute
servers like paper etc w lots of ppl i mute
leme rephrase it
servers i will willingly join
golden gust
I kinda 50% decided on creating my own discord
as in, I created it, no idea if I can be arsed cleaning it up and sharing it \o/
austere ivy
I'll join can I be a helper or a mod or something?
I've always wanted to moderate a server ;D
Other than mine and my server's that is.
austere ivy
Electronic are you an electrician?
golden gust
Not really
austere ivy
Do you have a hobby in photography?
golden gust
My grandfather was a switchboard engineer, and I had a reasonable interest in electronics when I was younger
austere ivy
Hey that's cool!
void void
ya i ❤ photoshop
golden gust
Also worked under him for a few years
marble summit
No he is just a cat who got his tail stuck in a toaster that his master put in a bath tub
golden gust
Only electric shock I've ever had was off a flash camera 😄
wooden blade
I’ve always wanted a reason to cackle maniacally while furiously wrenching my hands together. Moderating someone else’s server sounds like the most perfect opportunity for that
marble summit
Because he wouldn’t shut his stupid cat mouth up
austere ivy
That's not very nice >:(
marble summit
But spottedleaf gets thrown into a toaster bath 24/7
austere ivy
Begone .mo
marble summit
Since he is the ultimate furry
austere ivy
zinc cliff
austere ivy
Is this you, Electronic?
golden gust
No
austere ivy
Oh I guessed, I didn't think you were an edm producer.
austere ivy
Slowly?
void void
cats = ❤
marble summit
@void void yes cats = lewd
austere ivy
Electronic, did you join the pro developer club yet?
void void
#adorable-pets should be more active
golden gust
"pro developer club"?
golden gust
I'm in too many channels as is 😄
austere ivy
:( worth it though!
void void
we need more cats in #adorable-pets
austere ivy
I can't post there.
void void
same
austere ivy
Even though I have a cat and I post pictures in #general
Also in kashike's box.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
austere ivy
I have quite a cute cat.
She used to be a stray.
But she's been with us for like 10 years so..
austere ivy
You made WorldeditCUI didn't you?
void void
no i did naht
void void
i just maintain it for 1.14.x+ on fabric 
and cat damnit
hwen will u accept my pr
we need async chunks
@austere ivy
austere ivy
Mikro did you not follow my advice?? https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/603476482999844864
pulsar wigeon
o did you update to .4
void void
it's again that fuck-im-on-ripcord
pulsar wigeon
did it even need it
void void
wiz not yet, but will today
austere ivy
Nice!
austere ivy
I like auto mode.
That way in night, it's dark so it doesn't strain your eyes.
And in the day, it's light so it doesn't strain your eyes.
void void
ye
austere ivy
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
austere ivy
YEEHAW.
We're in business, boys! https://tehbrian.xyz
I have my very own domain now >:D
(for an easter egg, stay on that page and scroll down and wait.)
austere ivy
yes yes that is correct
ancient bolt
My website is better
austere ivy
:(
ancient bolt
ancient bolt
Taylor Swift makes all things better
austere ivy
Gonna put links to who I am, that kinda stuff.
Make it nice.
OK why do you have a picture of taylor swift right there?
lyric hedge
ancient bolt
Why not?
austere ivy
I dunno it's a tad weird, why not a picture of you
It makes me think that that person is Kyle Wood
ancient bolt
Why would I put a picture of me
void void
do a cat picture
ancient bolt
Everyone knows who Taylor Swift is
austere ivy
I'm just saying it might be mistaken as you.
void void
cat
austere ivy
somehow.
ancient bolt
That would be a good thing
ancient bolt
See, if you read things it would be clear
Also note how much JS and other cruft is on there
golden gust
Did you look at the fix version?
winter sundial
That means nothing. They've changed it before.
pulsar wigeon
it also doesnt mean we will get .5
winter sundial
That too
potent halo
persistent leaves?
austere ivy
What cool things can I do with my own domain, now?
golden gust
I literally have no idea how anybody would go from that pic to 1.14.5 confirmed
winter sundial
I said there may be
austere ivy
ooo
potent halo
the picture shows them under tag Fix Future Version 1.15+
austere ivy
Mail server?
But that requires a
you know
server
I just have a custom domain, I'm not money mccashbags over here.
potent halo
what are you wtf about
void void
Träum etwas schönes
azure patio
From where he grab that I think 1.15 will fix everything
potent halo
no
potent halo
ok
azure patio
spiral garden
hello @upper flicker why forum say "Sorry, new users can only put 2 links in a post." 😦
upper flicker
It's anti spam is super aggressive
It seems to do a pretty good job but it puts random arbitrary limits on stuff like that
spiral garden
hmm, is it possible for my account to get approved 👀
upper flicker
I moved you up a few notches
golden gust
Oh, I was tryna figure my way around that yesterday and forgot mid way through 😄
potent halo
Someone named DoNotSpamPls wants to put more than 2 links 😛
spiral garden
o, thanks 😛
spiral garden
what is that link
golden gust
same for the FAQ link too
azure patio
interesting
potent halo
spiral garden
ah I see, it's because i copied it from archive.org's cached spigot page
golden gust
claps
spiral garden
fixed!
golden gust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcnpZYmNAuI | Kinda reminded me of this beautiful moment
austere ivy
Why isn't it working?
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Portal 2: GLaDOS - Slow Clap Processor - length 1m 5s - 762 likes, 12 dislikes (98.4%) - 90,722 views - JonBons on 2011.04.22
potent halo
golden gust
(fwiw, I literally bought a new GPU to be able to play that game)
austere ivy
golden gust
was a crappy HD5450, but it worked \o/
austere ivy
Why isn't it working electronic?
golden gust
Well, hows it not working?
austere ivy
www.tehbrian.xyz isn't going to tehbrian.xyz
austere ivy
I'm impatient but okay >:(
spiral garden
yeah DNS takes a while to do its thing
azure patio
^
spiral garden
you could set your computer's DNS to 1.1.1.1
potent halo
go take some air
spiral garden
that should make it faster for you
golden gust
I mean, it pulled up some site
austere ivy
It works now :D
fallen oracle
Well yeah it's a website, but he's saying you can switch your DNS to that because it's supposedly the fastest and it's SSL. It's CloudFlares public DNS.
cunning badge
Kinda weird that its showing the paper version as red and as I would be unable to connect
void void
is server still booting?
merry talon
It only uses TLS if your device supports it
on Android 9 you can use 1dot1dot1dot1.cloudflare-dns.com
cunning badge
Yes, im able to connect normally
After a minute its gone, so seems like the server takes same more time
But Im still able to connect before that
Well doesnt matter
serene sinew
fallen oracle
So confused. I keep getting a Version Mismatch when trying to update IntelliJ.
quasi valley
woven otter
Where's Z
fallen oracle
pulsar wigeon
6 bytes off
fallen oracle
Yeah, it's 6 bytes more.
I don't understand. I've even reinstalled it and rebooted.
wide chasm
Don't you get version 2019.2 when you re-install? Or did you re-install your previous version?
fallen oracle
I guess it just reinstalled my previous version.
limber knotBOT
Got a server that, every few hours, shows errors like these and need restarting as it gets too laggy to play. https://pastebin.com/Yuzv5k6A Any idea what could be the cause?
pulsar wigeon
pex in 2⃣0⃣1⃣9⃣
placid thicket
anybody got a status update on the block breaking bug patch? i haven't seen anything about it in the build notes yet
pulsar wigeon
what?
the one that was fixed upstream and pulled into paper already?
or something else i'm not aware of
placid thicket
that would explain why i haven't seen it, don't pay attention to upstream for vanilla fixes because somebody seems to think they are not his problem
also pex ewww.
is it recommended to bump from 14.3>14.4 yet?
placid thicket
not what i asked but i know 😛
fallen oracle
There we go. I was able to specify what version to have it install.
pulsar wigeon
kinda just up to you and test it
placid thicket
was hoping by this point someone else would have tested and have input, things to watch out for or known issues yknow?
pulsar wigeon
i mean, the block breaking thing is still gonna be an issue at high speeds and/or latencies
but on the other hand, async chunk io coming so
again, it's kinda on you to figure out what's important to you
golden gust
Father, your server looks like it's suffering from just being blatently overloaded, looks like mysql is also suffering too because of that
placid thicket
so if i understand, better performance, but block breaking issue is still there?
all i want to make sure is that performance is not going to get worse >.>
golden storm
worn ember
@fallen oracle thats why you use Eclipse /s
fallen oracle
You can leave now.
limber knotBOT
kk, thx electroniccat
neon hinge
marble summit
limber knotBOT
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worn ember
weeb
marble summit
thot
worn ember
poosy
marble summit
Niner Niner big vaginer
quasi valley
oh lol even maven's sync process is displayed in IJ now
fallen oracle
How-so?
spiral garden
hasn't that been there since forever?
quasi valley
not just by clicking on it, but more like the gradle terminals that just pulls up
also also only when downloading new stuff apparently, not for simple resyncs
limber knotBOT
Hello everybody...
Can I quickly ask you if anyone does know / have a guide for decompiling the source code for the latest paper-641 from GH (including source in my plugin eclipse working environment) ???
pulsar wigeon
why the fuck would you decompile something open source?
limber knotBOT
I don't know... maybe because there is a decompile.sh in the "scripts" folder and I do not find any single ".java" file in the zip I downloaded from official GH repo of papemc...
pulsar wigeon
you should read the contributing file
void void
azure patio
sudo rm -RF /
limber knotBOT
@azure patio "This command is dangerous, the system prevented you from executing a dangerous command.\n Execute the command again if you are sure you want to run this dangerous command"
quasi valley
Trolling on that level is actually scummy
Because there obviously always are people that don’t know better
amber tinsel
Most plugins that updated to 1.14.3 should work fine on 1.14.4 right? (Just not the bigger plugins that depend on NMS stuff)
quasi valley
Ye
dusk drift
lime inlet
void void
erm i should close eclipse? seems to be lagging me
limber knotBOT
weird question but does anyone know of a website that would allow me to easily make minecraft note block songs without having to make them in-game
well I found a bug
oh and the spigot jira is down for me so I can't report it
fuck
stiff yarrow
golden gust
Depends on the nature of the issue, ideally, test/replicate on latest