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95% chance

austere ivy
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r

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@lottedSpeaf get please

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It’s so fun to see the future and stuff

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no stop thank you

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what

limber knotBOT
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[RockyTV] I made a plugin that adds more permissions to the /gamemode command. made it for use on my server but if someone wants to use it (or has any feedback): https://gitlab.com/Xinayder/GamemodePerms

austere ivy
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Phones autosuggst suggests some whacky stuff

static badge
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I think ur just trying to cover up for the lack of braincells tbh

shrewd portal
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@static badge u wanna play overwatch tomorrow

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sure kappa

wide hazel
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I will be there in a few minutes and I'll be there you up to today and tomorrow and I will be there at the same time as the one I have is a good time to come by and see you soon

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Autosuggestion

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I'm everywhere a lot, apparently

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Makes sense

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last game for my support placements make bets on what it will be

acoustic pilot
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bronze

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that's scary close to what I think it'll be

acoustic pilot
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oh there's something below bronze?

wide hazel
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None

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mfw

wide hazel
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You won't place

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Lol

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Poor leaf

merry talon
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Google shouldnt allow people to put whatever the hell they want in update changelog messages

wide hazel
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Google itself does that

merry talon
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yeah I know

ancient bolt
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also they police the store too much as it is

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banning legit devs for no reason with no way of fixing it

wide hazel
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"bug fixes and performance improvements"

merry talon
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I disagree

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some don't even have that

wide hazel
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"."

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Seen that one a few times

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Meanwhile my plugin updates..

merry talon
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Or a copy and paste description of the app

wide hazel
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Lol, yeah

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Forgot

ancient bolt
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if there really were as many perf improvements as changelogs suggest, shit would be so fucking fast these days

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and yet here we are

wide hazel
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Hahaha

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Exactly

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I label code cleanup as "minor annoyance fixes" mostly

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Or just "code cleanup"

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Depending on what's changed and if it's visible to the end-user

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2352

cosmic raft
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hello

sinful ruin
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Thanks for yalls help in the IRC last night, I got the server up and running and I can SSH into it remotely with 2FA enabled thanks to google-authenticator

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) IT CHAPTER TWO - Final Trailer [HD] - length 2m 29s - 135,890 likes, 1,216 dislikes (99.1%) - 2,154,064 views - Warner Bros. Pictures on 2019.07.18

regal coral
void void
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oh

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im retarded

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i thought it said i had a later build than what was available lul

pulsar wigeon
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why not u222?

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oh wait, it is 221

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why are there sub-builds thonk

limber knotBOT
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[RockyTV] I've updated my server to latest build and it seems like it's lagging when I break blocks

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[RockyTV] about 40 fps drop

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time to update java boys

fallen oracle
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For those who watched Pokemon when they were younger (or now) which TV series is your favorite?

void void
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fucking jesus fuck

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finally

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that took way longer than it should have

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nuxt -> js client -> java backend

plucky pawn
merry talon
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Code cleanup = "Refactoring"

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sounds better

void void
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when u gonna refactor ur face

fallen oracle
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Ouch

hot gorge
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Jesus Unifi gear is a pain in the ass when it isn't working properly

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Thunderstorm killed my cable modem, LAN1 on my USG now only works in 100 MBPS and port 7 on my switch is dead

fallen oracle
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Just almost touched the big purchase button but stopped myself. Phew.

hot gorge
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I mean, when the Unifi stuff is configured properly, it's awesome.

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I have older stuff to

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My CloudKey is gen1 and has some issues with hard power loss, which they fixed with this current model.

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The access points I have are bulletproof though. I've never had an issue with the AC AP Pros.

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So for now my gigabit internet only operates at 100mpbs lol

fallen oracle
void void
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this man literally pets his fish

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wtf

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) My Fish Loves Me! He would rather play than eat! - length 2m 20s - 183,464 likes, 1,824 dislikes (99.0%) - 4,105,395 views - Bon Shaw on 2015.04.20

void void
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wholesome but wtf

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fucking rubbing his belly and shit

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water dog

dusky chasm
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does anyone have any suggestions for a short NDA for a freelance developer to sign for me?

hot gorge
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Have you checked LegalZoom for something?

hot gorge
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Or that

dusky chasm
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i was looking at law depot a bit but 11 pages nah fam xD

void void
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be sure to read that it actually fits what you need before you have him sign it and realize that if you need to apply it that you have to seek out your own lawyer, and really should already have one if you're going to make them sign one lol because they should at least review it
none of us here are (verified) legal consultants

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so do with it what you will but don't make any unreasonable expectations

dusky chasm
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Of course haha, thanks!

void void
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Ye it makes a 4 page document in my test not too bad, you do need info about the dev such as his address and legal name tho

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(if you dont have a legal name, GL enforcing it)

fallen oracle
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GL GL GL

potent halo
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NDAs are great, my boss once made me sign one and i didnt know what the heck it was about but i had to. It wasn't so bad but like "you can't talk to others who are on the project even if you know they are on the project because they don't know you're on the project blablabla"

void void
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yup i had something like that but my dumbass manager didnt make me sign an NDA, she just got mad at me when I talked about it

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so I told her that was not fucking acceptable and it really pissed me off

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and she said sorry and then we signed an nda

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was gud

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management are a bunch of fucking clowns

potent halo
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I had to sign one for the World of Warcraft Alpha too but that one at least I knew what it was about

void void
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well, now it's public domain i don't think it matters but the bank i worked for got its ass bought by another bank

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so i had to package up all the loans and send the data to another server

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lul

potent halo
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mine was similar, they were selling half the company

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well not half

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part

void void
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pretty big deal, entire california operations got sold

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i had no idea lmao, saw the shitstorm coming so i left

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(i worked for them in cali, and rumor started going around just about fucking everyone was gonna lose their job)

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transaction is done but they haven't "merged" operations yet, so whatever

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when it happens that shits gonna suck

merry talon
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I cant justify buying networking gear because ISP units are sufficient nowadays

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even though those ubiquiti APs are so nice

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when will I need more than 300 megabit on wifi

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but also when we had 64k we thought we'd never need more so

void void
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o.O??? wtf. CORS is catching me but only after hitting the endpoint when a resource already exists

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(status 409)

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wtf

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smh thanks nginx

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apparently add_header only applies for http status 200, 201, 204, 206, 301, 302, 303, 304, and 307 unless you add always

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wonder what the downside of this is peepoGIGA

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apparently there isn't one, it's just nginx being annoying

acoustic pilot
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no ur

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stahp bully muh nginx

shell vine
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i got gigabit internet monday 😎

potent halo
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i disabled SSLv3 recently on nginx gooderSip

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and TLS 1.0

merry talon
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I disable 1.1 too

shell vine
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simple where u get peepogiga from

void void
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somewhere

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whats best way for custom items (textures)

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a resource pack is...the only way.

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ye

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do you need more info than that because if so i dont got it

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the way is to make a resource pack.

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i gotta figure 3d models

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yup

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what program do ppl use or website

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ok ima make weapons

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lol ok

shell vine
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thanks helps

void void
void void
shell vine
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thanks

tranquil bone
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@shell vine Don't mind me pinging you, do you still have out of memory issues?

shell vine
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huh

tranquil bone
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I guess you responded to some else?

shell vine
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yea i changed from aikars flags with 8g, to just xms4g and xmx8g as flags

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and havent had problems on that machine since

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it was like running out of ram and using swap previously

tranquil bone
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Had to tweak my swap too

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Increased swap and changed the swappiness value

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Seems like we're having the same problem then haha

shell vine
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well not anymore

tranquil bone
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The box you had issues on was on 1.14 yea?

shell vine
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have three servers on it, one was 1.13 the other two 1.8

tranquil bone
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Ahh, fair

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Odd...

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That's pretty interesting because I wonder what changed

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Thank you, changed it

left yacht
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generally aikar's flags makes memory leaks more apparent.

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it doesn't make your server run out of memory by itself.

tranquil bone
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I see, thing is I ran like 4 thread dumps through a profiler

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Nothing substantial to indicate that there is a memory leak

left yacht
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generally you aren't looking at the data correctly

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though 4-8GB makes heaps hard to figure out

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what's using it all

bronze holly
idle nexus
void void
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took way too long but i finally have one of those cool forms that tells you whether or not a username is available while you fill it o ut

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\o/

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time to clean this nasty up

topaz birch
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Does anyone have a good recommendation for a stats plugin that doesn't require mysql? Just something that tracks and stores basic stats in a flatfile that players can view with commands

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Stats 5.3.5 doesn't work without mysql it seems and if it does I can't get it to work :(

void void
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do you realize how detrimental that would start being after you have more than a few players being tracked

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and WHY they require mysql?

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if Stats supports SQLite, that is still SQL but flatfile; otherwise look for SQLite. However you definitely do not want a plain file-based stats system. You will experience insane IO lag.

tranquil bone
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Hello my friend simple

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Thanks Titanic for your response by the way

void void
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hi

tranquil bone
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I'll read up on how to look for issues a bit better when profiling

silent flame
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It seems that there are server crashes around some shipwrecks.

topaz birch
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Alright I guess I'll research sql more lol, know nothing about it and tried to get the plugin to work with my host for a couple hours and ended up giving up but I don't know too much about servers so that makes sense. Thanks!

void void
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all you need to know is that SQL (databases in general) are made to store and return data incredibly efficiently @topaz birch
Files can hold data, sure, but imagine 15 players trying to request their stats at once. From a single file.

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Prepare for bloody hell.

quasi valley
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I mean, if you store something like that in a single file, youre a lunatic anyways

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and if you do it in a file per player, you're still a lunatic if you only load it on access, and that everytime

void void
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(hence why i am trying to explain that you won't find such a plugin)

quasi valley
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ye

topaz birch
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Yeah, that definitely makes sense haha. Would you recommend any specific mysql tutorials?

void void
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you need a mysql server, your host should provide one. If they don't, you need a new host because SQL database(s) should be standard.

rustic heart
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hello

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im having a serious problem and my server got crash for this following error Error: Invalid or corrupt jarfile /custom.jar

void void
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remove custom.jar then

rustic heart
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as i was upgrading the version

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remove ?

void void
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yes? it's invalid or corrupt

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read the error

rustic heart
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............. not smart at all answer , as i already check the previous versions aswell and for some reason getting the same error @unreal quarry

void void
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Seriously?

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Don't ping people out of nowhere.

rustic heart
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and thats happend when i try to upgrade thelast version

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Then fix the jar and re-add it

void void
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And please don't be rude when someone donates their time to you to help you.

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And stop being a fuckn dick

void void
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We don't know what you've done, so how can we know that you've already checked? We also don't know what custom.jar is. What is it?

rustic heart
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so i was rude because if i remember u told to read the error , like i didnt ha ?

void void
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Yeah, the error says the jar is bad. I said delete the jar.

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It's pretty clear.

rustic heart
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if i delete the jar my server isnt going to start at all

void void
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Again, we don't know what custom.jar is

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Is that your SERVER jar? Or is it a PLUGIN jar?

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If it's your SERVER jar, redownload it.

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Probably corrupted on download.

rustic heart
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Paper-134.Jar

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and i rename it to custom jar

void void
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Redownload the jar file and try that.

rustic heart
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i already did that

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thats why i came here

void void
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Ok, copy the entire logs/latest.log and paste it for us so we can read the whole thing.

rustic heart
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okay

void void
rustic heart
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well look

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the latest log

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is from spigot

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as i try to open my server with the spigot version

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so there is nopoint to send it

void void
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You should have log data from when you tried paper.

golden gust
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if the jar is corrupted you'll need to download and upload a new copy of it

void void
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He said he tried that, and we're not smart for saying that.

golden gust
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There ain't much we can do about buster jars on your end, they're working for others just fine

void void
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I suppose "maybe" it could be the jars in the cache folder?

rustic heart
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as you see that what my console sending me over an 4hours now

void void
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Where did you get this jar from? o.O

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That doesn't look like a paper message "Loaded config for "@ Custom Jar (Recommended) (Place "custom.jar" in base directory)""

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oh, it's multicraft

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bleh

rustic heart
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so any idea ?

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:/

void void
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The jar is just bad. I really don't know what else to tell you.

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I just loaded paper-134 fine.

golden gust
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You need to redownload and reupload the jar

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if you're using an FTP client make sure that it's not in ascii mode or something stupid

rustic heart
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well i already try that mate

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ima check that @golden gust

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as i see @golden gust you were right , i did a mistake and i was having it ascii mode

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so thanks i guess to notice me that

void void
rustic heart
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well i didnt even think of that

void void
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here we go

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lets take a poll

astral marsh
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"We plan on this being the final release for 1.14 and we'll continue our efforts on 1.15."

void void
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how many people will come in here before paper updates, asking for ETA

astral marsh
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holy shit they released .14.4

void void
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@static badge paper 1.14.4 when

astral marsh
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ETA go

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when spigot updates

void void
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i had to be the first

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there will be many im certain

void void
swift wren
amber tinsel
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1.15 will also focus on quality and performance improvements., lets hope that they are going do that PES2_OhYeah

gloomy vine
pulsar ether
limber knotBOT
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Other than villagers 1.14 is faster than 1.13

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Although not faster than 1.12 so...

ornate spindle
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still hoping for the day when a version is released and it is as fast as either 1.7.10 or 1.8.8

void void
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simple

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just deditate more wam to sewer

dim shore
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1.14 chunk stuff is slow kappa

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monkaMEGA io on main

tropic quarry
stuck dawn
pseudo haven
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hey guys

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two questions

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  1. does java 11 actually improve performance tps-wise (talking about 1.13.2 here)
  2. same for aikar's flags. i already have 150-200% cpu usage, would adding the flags simply increase cpu usage further and thus cause tps to be more stable but lower
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i mean, im using an i7-4790K but with like 80 plugins

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and who is that

dusky chasm
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Administrator of Minecraft’s discord

native ginkgo
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And again, ViaVersion has let me know the 1.14.4 MC version is out hahaha

static badge
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I'd like to say I've personally inspected pre6 and found that glaring issues still exist :>

native ginkgo
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Damm

dusky chasm
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What barty?

native ginkgo
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I can't wait for BetterViewDistance support again haha

void void
dusky chasm
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Lmao no 1.15 will not be our for a long while

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They are doing a near yearly update cycle

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Me?

void void
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. remind -w -d 191066557772726272 1y LOL IS 1.15 OUT YET

dusky chasm
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I’m telling you directly what a Minecraft administrator said to me & a select few a private channel in their discord

void void
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shit

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.remind -w -d 191066557772726272 1y LOL IS 1.15 OUT YET

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Come on korobi

static badge
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look boys you'll learn the hard way that it wont solve your issues

void void
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King, don't do the fucking "oh yeah well a server admin told me" bullshit

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That is the most annoying shit ever

native ginkgo
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Yea

void void
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And holds no weight

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I'd you aren't gonna be smart with your speech just don't talk

dusky chasm
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Y’all are very much so miss reading what I am saying

void void
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makes stupid claim gets shot down gets mad

dusky chasm
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And my stupid claim was?

void void
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That 1.15 won't be out for a year

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Lmao

limber knotBOT
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@dusky chasm the mc server admins arent mojang employees; dinnerbone is. that's what they're tryna tell you

pulsar wigeon
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those aren't exclusive statements

void void
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I have a special hatred for people who base all their knowledge on their talking to other server owners

dusky chasm
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Exactly.…… it won’t happen… for months…

void void
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It has got to be one of my biggest pet peeves

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So fucking annoying

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Ok sleep time

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Night proximyst ily

silent flame
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yay 1.14.4 FINALLY

dusky chasm
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And I believe it will come out around feb/march…

limber knotBOT
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@void void good night :*

dusky chasm
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A server owner told me nothing about that… how about u read what I say.

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1.14 came out in April.

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Learn to count

void void
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He's trying to cover his ass, just let the retard bask in his retardedness

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More like barty sucks am I rite

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ok night

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onyx venture
rough crane
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We plan on this being the final release for 1.14 and we'll continue our efforts on 1.15.
My god I'm angry at mojang now.
"Servers are unusable, who cares, let's move on."

tawdry loom
arctic jewel
tropic flame
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so what you guys are saying is 1.14.4 fixed nothing?

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No we didnt

obsidian belfry
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They said more performance improvements in 1.15

cunning badge
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It fixes some things, but I highly doubt that its noticeable

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There are still ton of things missing

tropic flame
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if I can't run a 1.14.4 server like I run a 1.13.2 one then they fixed nothing really

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if there's high CPU usage and slow chunk loading

cunning badge
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Simply test it

tropic flame
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I guess

dusky chasm
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I highly doubt it’s anywhere remotely close to 1.13.2

obsidian belfry
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I hope Paper will fix some of those issues

tropic flame
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I'd like to understand what Mojang sees of beneficial in "fixed schedule for updates but we leave bugs behind in the process" versus "irregular, slower updates that actually fix all the important bugs"

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(by irregular I mean that they don't follow any fixed schedule)

dusky chasm
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There’s not really any understanding what they do

frosty moon
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A lot of this is caused by them being forced to meet a deadline that was likely established by the folks at Microsoft. Unfortunately that takes away some of their ability to properly test it, so we're unfortunately forced to be the guinea pigs.

tranquil bone
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Wait

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.4 is out already?

queen rapids
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yes

tranquil bone
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The hell, doesn't show up on my launcher

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Well, lets again take in the chaos which is going to happen in #paper-help

south ruin
blissful bane
tropic flame
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I don't get why discord client likes to reset my notification settings

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in all of a sudden I get this 1/5 screen of glitch garbage and then a popup notification appears

void void
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i have over 2000 friend requests

astral bobcat
flat cloud
vague mango
sly spear
void void
fallen mica
marsh charm
obsidian sinew
plush elm
gusty lily
limber knotBOT
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Hellooo

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1.14.4 Is outttt!

pulsar wigeon
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yes, everyone is aware

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except md_5, who is probably sleeping, given the current time in australia

limber knotBOT
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nooo

gusty lily
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Hi, does anyone know of a plugin that allows me to set in game currency costs for commands? Specifically ones that work with 1.14.3?

sick pawn
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shut thicket
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EtA oN PaPeR 1.14.4 PlZ

limber knotBOT
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Does anyone use Viabackward?

cunning badge
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

shut thicket
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alright don't spam it

marsh charm
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our vanilla server is on 1.14.4 (we just created it), so we need to make a new server to use paper, right?

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or can you downgrade?

shut thicket
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???

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You can just use the Paper jar file

cunning badge
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just replace the server jar with paperjar

marsh charm
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oh okay I wasn't sure if it would cause problems since it was an older version

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thanks

cunning badge
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np

shut thicket
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Why is win10 search such garbage

golden gust
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Downgrading should work but is generally not advised as it can cause data loss

marsh charm
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ah

void void
marsh charm
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we'll probably just wait until the next paper release then, probably it's less than a week anyway since this is just a minor update

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but I'm not really familiar with paper relases

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thanks for info 👍

violet scaffold
marsh charm
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oh that's not bad at all then, cheers

tame bramble
daring herald
vagrant marlin
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hello

golden gust
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MiniDigger, halp

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people are here

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save me

shut thicket
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@spare venture Yeah windows start menu search in 10

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7 was so snappy and nice

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but it decides to connect to bing and search that shit first

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:/

rocky forum
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1.14.4 is big

ruby rune
limber knotBOT
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mmmmh?

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what did I miss?

golden gust
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People joining

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Forgot IRC doesn't show that

limber knotBOT
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reeeeeeee

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petition to properly mirror discord users

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oh wait, that wouldn't work without a custom ircd, would it?

dapper nacelle
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particles are so much fun

limber knotBOT
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unless you use bots

void void
shut thicket
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So how does this server handle "merging" with an IRC?

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I've never seen that anywhere else on discord

dapper nacelle
limber knotBOT
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And spigot would probably frown upon like 3k connections to their server

tardy lynx
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So what does 1.14.4 fix?

shut thicket
tardy lynx
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I'm thinking of launching a server in about... tomorrow

golden gust
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Mobs will no longer try to pathfind their way through bamboo - Wonder if there is any relation there to mobs being janky in the water when they run into reeds or something

rain swan
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does anyone have a contact for Zrips? (dev of Residence plugin)

graceful wyvern
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suppose I should sleep since the other Australian isn’t gonna do anything tonight

tacit basalt
limber knotBOT
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oh shit it's friday already?

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when did that happen

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I demand a recount

golden gust
potent halo
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i took the afternoon off

shut thicket
vital panther
void void
limber knotBOT
void void
tender wraith
fallen wing
rain swan
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any idea how could i hook Residence plugin with my own economy plugin?

golden gust
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Implement vault support into your eco plugin

tranquil bone
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When an update comes out 1000 new members join

rain swan
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i looked at vault's api but it's very confusing

worn ember
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@rain swan it's not that hard. If you read the GitHub docs
It even has an example

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A very bad example. But an example non the less

rain swan
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reading it rn but i'm confused

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like

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my eco "plugin" has only add and removeMoney methods

worn ember
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Yeah. Just make those call the API methods

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From vault

rain swan
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looking at setupEconomy void in the example

vagrant marlin
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wHeN eTa

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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

worn ember
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.kill @vagrant marlin

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) I can't attack that.

vagrant marlin
#

nuu

worn ember
#

U wot

rain swan
#

oh so basically

outer patio
vagrant marlin
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

rain swan
#

i could do probably java public class Eco implements Economy, right?

outer patio
#

Hey, how soon does paper for 1.14.4 generally come out

rain swan
#

lol

#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

outer patio
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

outer patio
#

Nice

#

Thanks

void void
worn ember
#

.bobs

#

😦

rain swan
#

.vegana

worn ember
#

drill op

hushed ridge
outer patio
#

why is there a Taylor swift fan club

shut thicket
#

Why you questioning it?

#

Tay tay is the queen

torn arrow
tardy lynx
#

taylor swift is trash

empty spear
#

Question. Paid server advertising isnt worth it is it?

shut thicket
#

Probably not

empty spear
#

Okay thought so ty

golden gust
#

"And TriaticMonkey was never heard of again"

tardy lynx
#

modern pop is trash

shut thicket
#

Debatable

rain swan
#

@golden gust firstly - sorry for the ping. i have a question: how would implementing Vault into my economy work on bungee? because vault is made for bukkit and doesn't support bungee

golden gust
#

On bungee you can't

#

Does residence run on bungee?

rain swan
#

hah nope

#

well but my economy is proxy wide so

soft loom
rain swan
#

so i guess it's not possible

#

fuck

hazy frost
golden gust
#

Well, so long as your storage system is on a database and sync'd properly, you can just access that

rain swan
#

yes, economics are connected to mysql

golden gust
#

but afaik there is no standard plugin for eco support on bungee given that eco is generally not really used there

rain swan
#

so vault's "bank accounts" are server based?

golden gust
#

Vault just provides an interface for plugins to implement against

#

Eco plugins implement the vault interface so that plugins have a standard interface to work against vs having to manually support every eco plugin in existence

fresh wharf
rain swan
#

should i implement vault in bungee's eco plugin or do it per-server?

winter sundial
void void
glad chasm
#

Hey

golden gust
#

You'd need to do it per server, vault can't work with bungee

fringe flower
shut thicket
#

I wonder what the channel description means by "Burning of leafs"

golden gust
#

.leaf

ocean moth
shut thicket
#

I'm not certain on what I was expecting.

#

And it certainly wasn't that.

#

But I love it.

ember panther
rain swan
#

well yes, per-server, but how would vault on one server and vault on the second one communicate with each other?

golden gust
#

You'd store everything in the database and the servers would just access that

keen garden
errant spear
hushed hearth
rain swan
#

that isn't good for me

#

fuck

worn ember
#

how? lol

#

its the best way of doing it

kind sierra
tranquil bone
#

Hoi

pseudo island
tranquil tiger
eager agate
limber knotBOT
#

[RockyTV] .eta

ocean ether
#

😂

limber knotBOT
#

[RockyTV] :/

#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

ocean ether
#

Ez

reef hedge
fringe atlas
naive bison
cloud magnet
void void
potent halo
#

where do people release plugins nowadays?

rain swan
golden gust
#

and bukkits site too

merry talon
#

for some reason

shut thicket
#

I wouldn't recommend bukkit's website

dapper nacelle
#

how tf is it even possible to print out these numbers

#

it has 2 dots

pulsar wigeon
#

why not discount milk?

dapper nacelle
naive pike
dreamy garden
shut thicket
#

@pulsar wigeon Unless something has changed in the last two years the bukkit sites had a history of accumulating malicious plugins since the review process is, for the lack of better words, cruddy.

pulsar wigeon
#

...

#
  1. don't ping me
shut thicket
#

<3

#

Love ya

pulsar wigeon
#
  1. have you fucking seen spigot's site recently?
shut thicket
#

No

pulsar wigeon
#

they don't do any review lol

shut thicket
#

Oof

#

Fair point

pulsar wigeon
#

premium plugins are given a cursory glance

#

but there's been hella malware recently

shut thicket
#

So what I'm hearing is trust nobody

#

not even yourself

pulsar wigeon
#

i thought you were gonna say something like "new smaller plugins don't have a good chance of being seen/discovered on dbo"

#

which i guess is somewhat valid

golden gust
#

Spigot is in the middle of an attack wave, hence why so much is getting through

pulsar wigeon
#

but the review process is like...ehh

golden gust
#

But, really, Bukkits review process is I would hope, better than nothing

shut thicket
#

I suppose I stand ... informed

woven otter
#

hmm this place seems to be lacking ducks

shut thicket
#

I'm shocked to see this server only have two boosts

woven otter
#

hmm who lost the booster status 🤔

#

I guess it's leaf

quasi valley
#

What a monster

true oracle
rocky kettle
jagged lily
flint latch
crystal compass
#

Thoughts on 1.14.4 ?

true canyon
#

@shut thicket BukkitDev does (or did?) at least virus scan things. Though their review quality definitely went down when we all quit in 2014. Coming up on 5 year anniversary of Bukkit's death, getting ready for the celebration.

shut thicket
#

Yeah I haven't looked much on the Bukkit website in a while admittedly.

true canyon
#

@crystal compass Clients can't connect to 1.14.3 servers. I hope it improves performance a bit. I wonder what Notch thinks about the changes, but he's probably just thinking racist stuff. These are my thoughts.

shut thicket
#

"Probably just thinking racist stuff"

limber knotBOT
#

His new experiments look cool

daring atlas
#

Minecraft 1.14.4 Release

simple lintel
vestal jasper
#

premium plugins are given a cursory glance
"Hmm? This plugin violates 3 of the premium resource guidelines? Let it through."

topaz rune
true canyon
#

@shut thicket Could also be thinking sexist stuff. Ya never know! 😛

wide hazel
#

I'll be honest, I forgot the premium resource guidelines already

#

I just don't pull crazy shit and hope I'm not breaking anything

true canyon
#

It's ok spigot forgot too

#

They also forgot their regular guidelines, copyright laws, and even their regular rules against harassment.

quasi valley
#

But also enforce them quite strictly whenever it fits them

shut thicket
#

Damn baxter throwing heccin shade today

#

Love it

wide hazel
#

Heh

#

Ah well

limber knotBOT
#

[RockyTV] what is the permission for the /tp command? bukkit.command.tp or minecraft.command.tp? I tried adding the latter to groupmanager but non-ops still don't have permission to use it

brittle granite
shut thicket
#

Mana do you have essentials or anything of the sort?

#

If you don't have essentials or anything of the sorts its def minecraft.command.tp

limber knotBOT
#

[RockyTV] no, I only use groupmanager

shut thicket
#

And if you don't have essentials (Or any of the varients) it's /tp <name1> <name2>

#

So name 1 gets teleported to name 2

limber knotBOT
#

[RockyTV] ah, guess I'll install essentialsx then :P

vestal jasper
#

/tp <name1> works too

limber knotBOT
#

[RockyTV] the problem I had was that even though I added minecraft.command.tp node to the default group, non-ops couldn't use it

wooden blade
#

Try minecraft.command.teleport

limber knotBOT
#

[RockyTV] will try

void void
#

To anyone not busy

#

WHat's the best way to start a new minecraft server

#

including pregen and the basics

#

@void void buy mine

#

jk just download buildtools and set that up

#

your profile pic brings back so many memories

#

lmao

#

(;

wide hazel
#

Oooooffff

#

That physically hurt to watch

shut thicket
#

Fucking ouch

acoustic pilot
#

old footage, but still funny lol

void void
#

when will paper for 1.14.4 be out

vernal kiln
iron goblet
shut thicket
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

void void
#

ok

cunning badge
#

im retarded

#

holy shit

shut thicket
#

me too

cunning badge
#

misstyped like 4 times

shut thicket
#

Subtle delete

placid thicket
#

That moment when someone is trying to argue the USA not having health care livable wages and parental leave is normal and not caused by corporate greed

shut thicket
#

Yeah it's normal.

#

For the US.

acoustic pilot
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) George Nader indicted on child porn, child sex transportation charges : politics - 245 comments, 2,386 points - Eurynom0s, 3h ago

acoustic pilot
#

Close to so many evil people

#

Just the sheer proximity to evil is astounding

placid thicket
#

That's... Horrid... WTF USA...

shut thicket
#

Yikes

#

Note: an indictment doesn't necessarily imply guilt, it just means they're legally being accused of the crime.

acoustic pilot
#

Sure, guilt is determined by his day in court, but an indictment still had to be signed off by a judge who was presented with compelling evidence

shut thicket
#

Not judge, grand jury

acoustic pilot
#

Or well, the warrant, the indictment was probably some grand jury shit

#

Yeah

#

So you've got a grand jury who felt compelled enough

shut thicket
#

Warrants are signed by judges, basically the police say "Hey we have X amount of evidence that implies they might be guilty"

#

Alright investigate

#

Indictments work the same way

#

But yeah if there's enough evidence to get an indictment it's usually not a good thing

acoustic pilot
#

Justice department probably wouldn't be pursuing this unless they felt pretty good about the evidence, too.

shut thicket
#

Well

#

Innocent people get pursued all the time

#

And convicted all the time, the law system isn't really perfect

acoustic pilot
#

Certainly, they're a blip, but enough of a blip that I'm totally against any forms of corporal punishment.

#

But I mean on a more general basis

shut thicket
#

Same

acoustic pilot
#

It must mean the DoJ is confident

shut thicket
#

Now that I'm done talking "legal process" lemme actually read the article

acoustic pilot
#

If even 1 person is exonerated from death row, that is enough of a reason to outlaw the death penalty, or ANY corporal punishment.

#

Incarceration should be the single punishment that applies to all crimes.

shut thicket
#

When he was convicted 28 years ago of transporting child pornography, he received a reduced sentence after influential figures argued privately to the court that he helped free U.S. hostages then held in Lebanon.

#

In 1985, he was indicted by a federal grand jury in Washington on two counts of mailing and importing child pornography. Those charges were dismissed after Nader’s lawyers successfully argued that authorities had illegally seized evidence in the case This is bloody brutal the more and more I read

acoustic pilot
#

Sounds like he's a useful asset that gets away with some really shady shit

shut thicket
#

Would be nice if the law stuck this time

acoustic pilot
#

There's this and there's also the Epstein case.

#

Hoping for both to stick

shut thicket
#

I haven't read anything more than surface level headlines on the Epstein case

acoustic pilot
#

Epstein has a history of what he's currently being accused of and is a registered sex offender

#

He's being held without bail, determined to be a flight risk, had a fake passport and gold or some other valuables I forgot stashed in a safe too. I think this became known after his bail was denied, tho

#

Or maybe before, I forget

shut thicket
#

My biggest issue when it comes to sex trafficking involving minors is that if somebody that is honestly and truly innocent gets accused of it, they're going to get more deeply investigated because "Think of the children"

#

It's a horrid crime

acoustic pilot
#

Can't be helped, but that's why it's imperative that we champion innocent until proven guilty

#

And abolish all forms of corporal punishment

shut thicket
#

(I'm not saying either case in this situation is, I'm just saying that the whole innocent until proven guilty thing is super important)

acoustic pilot
#

The court of public opinion shouldn't be stronger than a court of law.

void void
#

tfw people say there's no difference between vanilla nad paper

shut thicket
#

Who enforces the law?

tardy lynx
#

paper 1.14.5 when

void void
#

What's the best plugin to pregen a world

golden gust
#

worldborder is pretty much thee plugin for that

void void
#

or should I just run a command

steel marsh
void void
#

Does worldborder automatically pregen then?

golden gust
#

No, you need to set a border and then run the fill command

void void
#

perfect, thanks

#

what's a good world border size woudl people say for just a survival with maybe 10+ players

#

50,000?

#

30,000?

golden gust
#

a few k is generally fine, 10 players won't go too far, you'll also wanna consider expanding it on updates to get access to the newer things

silent flame
#

Paper 1.14.4 coming soon? 😛

tardy lynx
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

silent flame
#

😮

#

ay ay capn'

tardy lynx
#

We're waiting for some australian guy to wake up and make spigot 1.14.4 so paper can update

silent flame
#

👍🏼

#

hope he isn't hung over 😉

tardy lynx
#

nah he's a programmer

silent flame
#

improving the world...one line of code at the time 😃

tardy lynx
#

oof should I get a picoPSU for my server?

cinder condor
#

heY gUys iS SpiGot 1.14.4 oUt yeT?

worn ember
#

yes

cinder condor
#

mMMm

worn ember
#

no

cinder condor
#

Australian dude commit do it

brisk dove
true canyon
#

hung over? In my mind md_5 is still 13 and a half, aging is a hard concept for me.

#

bah, can't find it on my new desktop. Somewhere I have his "I'm 13.5 years old" application to bukkit staff lying around. 😛

static badge
#

is this really true :>

fallen oracle
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) ✓@realDonaldTrump (Donald J. Trump): Just spoke to @KanyeWest about his friend A$AP Rocky’s incarceration. I will be calling the very talented Prime Min… https://t.co/NbKHYs2QUX (17 minutes and 39 seconds ago)

static badge
#

.g A$AP Rocky

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASAP_Rocky -- ASAP Rocky - Wikipedia: "Rakim Mayers (born October 3, 1988), known by his stage name ASAP Rocky is an American rapper, singer, songwriter, record producer, model, actor..."

Rakim Mayers (born October 3, 1988), known by his stage name ASAP Rocky (stylized as A$AP Rocky; , AY-sap), is an American rapper, singer, songwriter, record producer, model, actor and music video director. He is a member of the hip hop group A$AP Mob, from which he adopted h...

outer patio
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

silent flame
#

😂

#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

marsh charm
#

does paper have a dupe glitch?

#

somebody in my server is telling me paper has a glitch with chunk storage limits or something

normal echo
#

paper fixes it in later builds

marsh charm
#

okay cool

normal echo
#

obviously depends on what version you're running

void void
tulip tree
void void
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

cinder condor
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

void void
#

why are we spamming eta

#

memes

tardy lynx
#

Anyone spamming .eta will be fed to goblins.

cinder condor
#

oh no

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) I put some Bee Gees music over North Korean marching - length 1m 2s - 393,972 likes, 4,208 dislikes (98.9%) - 8,482,824 views - In Misery Seek Root Beer on 2017.06.20

fading laurel
tame dove
silent flame
#

😉

azure patio
tranquil bone
#

Hahahaha

limber knotBOT
#

north korea would like to know your location

#

how long do these people drill just marching in lockstep looking to the left

marsh charm
#

so paper still depends on spigot as an upstream for releases?

static badge
#

yeah

crystal dragon
peak dirge
#

very talented Prime Minister of Sweden

lime sandal
#

very

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

void void
#

why

limber knotBOT
#

wait really?

#

eta please

#

someone has never seen incases' goblins

tranquil bone
#

Wait a second

#

Why is waterfall called waterfall

#

Is it like the opposite of spigot lol

limber knotBOT
#

because it leaks really hard

tranquil bone
#

Hahahaha

#

I get spigot which would fill the bukkit

#

Bungeecord because it... is flexible?

#

Waterfall because... not sure

limber knotBOT
#

to hang yourself with in a fun way

tranquil bone
#

Sounds like you have experience

limber knotBOT
#

:(

tranquil bone
#

That's cool, electronic

lime sandal
#

eta on waht?

tranquil bone
#

1.15

lime sandal
#

minecraft version?

limber knotBOT
#

sod it, I'll make a new fork

#

I'll call it vodka

lime sandal
#

lol

tranquil bone
#

I like to be the big spoon

woven linden
limber knotBOT
#

I like to be the small spoon with my waifu pillow being the big spoon

tranquil bone
#

I am a good waifu

limber knotBOT
#

but are you a pillow

tranquil bone
#

Urd.

#

Yes.

limber knotBOT
#

that sounds like something that a non-pillow would say

#

this is not the pillow talk I'm used to

#

are you lying?

#

on the internet?

lime tapir
fallen oracle
#

@vernal moth Something you did in you last commit of spigot-resolver makes it fail to compile. It says it's missing arguments for application.

undone leaf
peak dirge
#

Hehe, just looked at an old WordPress site I never got the time to populate.

fallen oracle
#

Good ol WordPress

peak dirge
#

Apparently, some of our favorite Russian/Chinese wall jumper have tried to crack into the site, but seemingly without success. I still need to investigate more though.

fallen oracle
#

o.o

true canyon
#

yay wordpress auto update feature

peak dirge
#

yeah, thank god that WP autoupdates

fallen oracle
#

Yeah

#

I haven't used WP is a fat minute.

#

I know it's pretty nice for blogs.

#

We used to do MC server reviews in HelpChat and I ran that through a WP side.

peak dirge
#

Too bad I had a login rate-limiter installed. And the X-Forwarded-For handling was broken. So their attempts to brute-force into the site would've met with abject failure.

#

It also has the nasty consequence that I can't log into the site 😉

dim bear
#

Hey, I'm wondering, anyone know when paper 1.14.4 will be out? I hope I'm not pressing just wondering

fallen oracle
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

dim bear
#

?

fallen oracle
#

Spigot 1.14.4 isn't even out yet.

dim bear
#

Right but my thoughts were 2 days from now. Just a guess

peak dirge
#

Anyway... I got Apache to trust the IPs from Cloudflare so I could log in

#

(If you want to argue with the use of Apache... well, note that I have NGINX which does SSL termination proxying to Varnish which caches and proxies to Apache. Crazy, I know.)

#

Anyway, I got the site moved from 4.9.10(!) to 5.2.2.

#

It's kind of crazy. I basically let this VPS be idle for a long time.

#
andrew@hamilton:~$ uptime
 21:59:45 up 425 days, 16:41,  1 user,  load average: 0.07, 0.08, 0.09
#

Anyway, I applied system and WordPress updates

fallen oracle
#

Do you actively use the site?

peak dirge
#

Nope! Last time it was seriously used was last year.

fallen oracle
#

So why keep it running?

peak dirge
#

It was going to be some sort of personal finance blog.

fallen oracle
#

Ahh

peak dirge
#

I keep it running (and the domain) in case I want to start that project back up again, which I do want to do.

fallen oracle
#

Ahh

void void
peak dirge
#

It's notable because it's my only domain with GoDaddy lol

#

If I plan to be serious with this, I'd transfer either to Namecheap where I have most of my domains at now or to Cloudflare Registrar

novel hemlock
oblique seal
fallen oracle
#

I would but they don't accept .Dev domains

void void
mystic flower
clever night
dim raptor
austere ivy
#

Hmm.

#

That's a lot of people joining all at once.

charred hound
#

“where the .4 at”

coarse sinew
#

Learn finnish xd

limber knotBOT
#

devbild 134 isnt 1.14.4?

marsh charm
#

no

limber knotBOT
#

okey

#

any ETA? :)

fallen oracle
#

No

marsh charm
#

what of paper relies on spigot releases that hasn't been forked?

lime gull
#

After 5 years away from minecraft, I just found out that axe deals more damage than sword.. wut

sacred sparrow
limber knotBOT
#

is the axe not mightier than the sword?

silent flame
#

no, its the pen 😛

glass rune
limber knotBOT
#

line 6 returns false

#

the rest doesn't matter

#

(well, says is false on console

#

)

#

I'm setting these values on an Item entity

upper flicker
#

did you write that?

limber knotBOT
#

yes

upper flicker
#

thats whats wrong with it :^)

void void
limber knotBOT
#

oh no I got got

#

time to go off myself

#

guess it was a good run tho I'd really have liked to know what was wrong with this code

upper flicker
#

do you need to re-set the item meta to get those to apply?

#

I have not played with any of those apis in years

limber knotBOT
#

note line 13

#

ooooh wait

#

yeah

upper flicker
#

that wont help you with line 6

limber knotBOT
#

no you're right

#

shit

#

thanks

upper flicker
#

Im like 4 beers in m8

#

Im impressed t hat was right

static badge
#

z

#

since ur drunk apparently?

limber knotBOT
#

I'm just being dumb, I copied over a line from my code and forgot where it was placed in the structure

static badge
#

go force push concrete to paper master kappa

upper flicker
#

not that drunk

#

not really drunk at all

#

just on my way

static badge
#

well

#

get going kappa

woven otter
#

ur drunk z

upper flicker
#

🦆

woven otter
#

where's your taco

limber knotBOT
#

do you have a support taco

#

it's a type of support animal

upper flicker
#

I probably do have some taco meat all prepared somewhere

woven otter
static badge
upper flicker
#

yeah I made some earlier this week and had left over in the fridge

#

rude :c

limber knotBOT
#

oh fantastic, now it errors but in a different place

#

oh wait no it doesn't

upper flicker
#

#softwaredev

woven otter
#

well. progress right?

limber knotBOT
#

I should really read my own debug messages

#

lol

peak dirge
static badge
#

good grief

woven otter
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) xkcd: Ballmer Peak (1 October 2007)

static badge
#

yeah maybe z's getting ready for the 1.14.4 update

#

although I'd like to do this one to see if they fuck over any my changes for async

upper flicker
#

I have, that does not really work for me sadly

static badge
#

md69's pushed the standard build delay commit

upper flicker
#

I know it does work for some people

static badge
#

maybe with two braincells it requires more precision

#

you know it probably would actually

woven otter
#

are you talking about alcohol or something else 🤔

upper flicker
#

he doesnt know what he's talking about

#

he's a leaf after all

#

we just humor his attempts

static badge
#

mfw

woven otter
#

for a second there i though you were talking about yourself in the 3rd person

upper flicker
#

Z750 doesn't talk about himself in the third person

static badge
#

you sure

upper flicker
#

Z750 is sure

static badge
#

can you ask z750 something for me

upper flicker
#

nou

static badge
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ur fucked

ancient bolt
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fuck im tired

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as always i guess

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coffee

ancient bolt
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no

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cocain

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yes

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drink blood

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why not both

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Oh!

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md69 has pushed .4

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Which is weird cause I checked like 10 minutes ago

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ok leaf now do your job

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So he must've committed but now pushed

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gimme a fat second

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no

woven otter
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ur slow

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ok

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am doing it now

fallen oracle
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It's not live on BuildTools yet

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doesn't really matter to me

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if u rush paper .4 will be out before spigot users can even use theirs

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^^

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Imagine

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that's not gonna occur

fallen oracle
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Not with that attitude.

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^

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all he's probably doing is writing the post for it

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beat his ass

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maybe testing it

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worst case I update, he force pushes some shit, and I solve the conflicts

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Just went live

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leaf 2 slow

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fuckin noob

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at least you're safe

austere ivy
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Been thinking for a while and there's something I got to tell you.

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Been thinking that our love for each other has grown so very far.