general

[woven otter]

while the server is on 1.12.2 it doesn't display boss bar to 1.8.8 clients because they require an actual entity

[limber knot]

god i love outdated clients

[vestal jasper]

easy solution
don't support 1.8 :^)

[woven otter]

yeah I love them as well. have given me headaches for some while now

I wish I could do that but it's not up to me

[limber knot]

step 1 remove the plugin which supports them, step 2 profit

[woven otter]

again not up to me

[vestal jasper]

make it up to you

[limber knot]

this but unironically

[woven otter]

I need at least 200 iq for that

[vestal jasper]

yeah and sadly you only have 2 braincells

[limber knot]

woah woah calm the insults

and lol 1.8

[vestal jasper]

You must be new here prox

[woven otter]

no I'm only at the level of understanding rick and morty

[vestal jasper]

so 3 braincells

[limber knot]

im not, i'm just sure we can somehow turn them at some point

[woven otter]

not a chance

[limber knot]

sure there is

[woven otter]

leaf will always call you retarded

[vestal jasper]

@static badge

[static badge]

all 3 of you are retarded

[woven otter]

u

[vestal jasper]

see?

[limber knot]

nono i meant turning you away from selfharm with a version older than my nan

[woven otter]

You know what's even worse than providing compatibility for 1.8.8?

[limber knot]

using it

[woven otter]

yes

exactly

1.8.8 should die already

let it die ffs

[limber knot]

and mr china man you should try using a version from this millennium; might turn out well for ya

[woven otter]

if that was directed to me then I have no choice

[winged shard]

So, which version should I use?

[limber knot]

1.13/1.14 maybe?

[worn ember]

1.14

[winged shard]

Because I have a pvp server

1.14 pvp is shit

[vestal jasper]

no

minecraft pvp is shit

[limber knot]

lmao

[left yacht]

1.9 pvp = 1.14 pvp

[vestal jasper]

literally minecraft pvp in every iteration is shit

[left yacht]

pls call it 1.9+ pvp

[vestal jasper]

why mc for pvp

[limber knot]

just force them to learn how to aim how about that

you could even do it yourself such that you add onto your list of skills in life?

god i wish i didn't learn java

[woven otter]

minecraft pvp should be left in some garbage can already

[limber knot]

honestly just disable pvp

[worn ember]

Lol

[woven otter]

yeah peaceful mode only

ffs

[limber knot]

pve is fine, pvp not so much

[worn ember]

Give everyone creative like the good old days

[limber knot]

make minecraft classic again

[woven otter]

let's just move to classic

[limber knot]

maybe even a classic remake with a working multiplayer, that'd be cool

[woven otter]

lel

plugin support for protocol hacked classic clients when

[winged shard]

A duck, so you can delete all papermc version except 1.9+ version

[woven otter]

what

[limber knot]

please do

[winged shard]

nicenice reasoning brother

[worn ember]

Concrete when

[vestal jasper]

just delete everything below 1.12 and call it good

[woven otter]

I would delete all versions below 1.12.2

[limber knot]

i'd delete everything not classic honestly

[woven otter]

delete minecraft when

let's move to different game already

[limber knot]

something something hytale?

[woven otter]

is hytale ever coming out

[limber knot]

arent all games ran by greed

at least in $(date '+%Y')

[winged shard]

So, wanna make my plugin compatible with 1.14? I think you like this version

[woven otter]

1.8.8 servers are ran by greedy bastards

I offer my services if you pay pretty dollarinos

[vestal jasper]

depends on how large the plugin is and if there's any incentive to update it

[limber knot]

give up some big bucks and im sure you'll have several devs at your door

sold!

[woven otter]

omg barty bucks

depends on how bad it is tbh

[limber knot]

is this with the ant config or what

[woven otter]

inb4 decompiled plugin

[limber knot]

maybe even slimefun before PRs started rolling in?

[woven otter]

static everywhere

only public variables

[limber knot]

someone should rewrite slimefun at some point

[vestal jasper]

the entire source folder or just the src directory

[woven otter]

nesting
nesting
nesting

[limber knot]

sorry cant hear you over the \t * 500

also, try here, mr china man: https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/hiring-developers.55/

[woven otter]

no try here

[vestal jasper]

50kb is like nothing

I'm curious as to what it does that's broken in later versions

does it touch nms or something

[limber knot]

everything in 1.7 had to touch nms with the skinny ass API

[vestal jasper]

Is it on github, tg?

[woven otter]

if you can offer decent payment and the plugin isn't steaming pile of garbage I up for it

so anyone want to be that guy that helps me with this beautiful issue

[vestal jasper]

what issue

[woven otter]

I need bread though

[vestal jasper]

if duck doesn't want to and I can actually take a look at it I might do it

[woven otter]

need to feed my family

[vestal jasper]

what about fish?

[woven otter]

@vestal jasper
Okay to avoid X/Y: I'm trying to display boss bars to players(yes, there's api but it's not applicable in my case). To solve that I'm attempting send entity spawn packets to player. It works but only when player is looking directly at the mob. However, if you spawn mob via /summon, for example, it works without requiring player to look at the entity

[vestal jasper]

oh that issue

[woven otter]

yes that issue

I might as well sell my soul at this point

[vestal jasper]

Have you tried checking the difference between the two packets?

[woven otter]

yes. honestly i really hoped that someone has dealt with this issue tbh

[minor badge]

better yet, look at what /summon sends

[woven otter]

tbh I already know what it sends was hoping for shortcuts but no shortcuts for the duck right

[minor badge]

replicating it is the shortest shortcut i suppose

[woven otter]

okay will attempt to send what summon sends. If it doesn't work will probably need to prepare rope

[minor badge]

unless summon has some api it calls to do it, which you could just replicate

[woven otter]

yes it's called spawning an entity /s

I don't get why it sends entity metadata and spawn packet multiple times though

[minor badge]

minecraft magic maybe?

[woven otter]

probably something Paper guys could explain

[pulsar wigeon]

https://i.imgur.com/rLMuAXe.png barty are you running some kind of scam

i came up with that and you told me there was no such thing

imma sue you

[woven otter]

wiz bless me with your power

[minor badge]

hot display mode u got there, wiz

[pulsar wigeon]

huh?

[woven otter]

i guess he/she/it is referring to irc mode

[minor badge]

indeed she is

[pulsar wigeon]

what's irc mode

this is dumcord

[woven otter]

yes dumcord has irc mode

well

[pulsar wigeon]

idk what irc mode is

[minor badge]

it mentions irc in the description of it actually

[woven otter]

https://i.imgur.com/qd1mYvO.png

[pulsar wigeon]

what's that

[woven otter]

wiz are u playing dum today

[pulsar wigeon]

idk

my discord doesn't have that

it must realize my superiority

[woven otter]

are you city by any chance

[pulsar wigeon]

and just automatically use the correct mode

no reason to offer pleb mode since i'm not a pleb

[woven otter]

ur weird

[minor badge]

speak for yourself, the rest of us are soaking rn

[pulsar wigeon]

says the pigeon

[woven otter]

stop calling me pigeon 😠

pigeons are lesser species

prox wth is that tag

[void void]

why does grubhub always know when im hungry

"DID SOMEONE SAY HUNGRY? HERE'S 10% OFF"

[woven otter]

grubhub
is that american thing

[void void]

idk

it's food delivery

[pulsar wigeon]

justweebthings

[void void]

pretty sure most countries have something similar

[golden gust]

Probs just that he's always hungry

[pulsar wigeon]

didn't even realize you could do this shit https://i.imgur.com/D8TqZRr.png

[minor badge]

@woven otter thats a song

@pulsar wigeon and thats discord api abuse

[woven otter]

is it sfw

[golden gust]

if that's the case, my hats to 'em lol

[pulsar wigeon]

reporting you to the fbi for hacking the mainframe

[woven otter]

I will create GUI in visual basic to track your ip address

[minor badge]

it is sfw @woven otter

and please dont, that'd be the third time this year

[woven otter]

link

[minor badge]

https://this-is-a.link

[woven otter]

wow thanks

really helpful

[pulsar wigeon]

third time's a charm right?

[minor badge]

just as insightful as your question

first and second were too

[woven otter]

link for that musical or song or whatever

[left yacht]

you ok prox?

also what the fuck is your profile

that's like 10 skypes linked

[woven otter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uil0L-0F4no

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Hurts Like Hell - Audio - length 3m 55s - 31,932 likes, 518 dislikes (98.4%) - 1,665,992 views - Fleurie on 2015.07.29

[woven otter]

that's a sad song prox

[void void]

Writing tests makes me want to become an alcholic (debatably, again)

[woven otter]

same but with supporting 1.8.8

[minor badge]

@left yacht yes im p fine thank u

@woven otter yes thats my feeling when i do 1.8 dev

cough guess who made me to that huh titanic cough

[woven otter]

hmm what's with the other song though

[minor badge]

what other song

[woven otter]

your tag

[minor badge]

oh the musical meme?

[woven otter]

yes

[minor badge]

thats not a song

[woven otter]

what's the meme then

[minor badge]

i just change names every so often

[woven otter]

what to listen to

[void void]

Red Solo Cup

like me

[minor badge]

80s disco never goes wrong

[woven otter]

wow you really are trying to be unhelpful today

[void void]

just do red solo cup you'll like it

it's all about loving red solo cups

[minor badge]

is simple ever helpful :')

[woven otter]

at least he suggested a song about cups

let's have a party

[minor badge]

It's Raining Men then

[void void]

red solo cup, you're not just a cup! you're my...you're my friend.

crowd aws

thank you for being my friend...

[minor badge]

or Let's Groove

[woven otter]

I need a red solo cup with alcoholic contents

[void void]

that's also what the song is about

i'm drinking a corona, gud

[woven otter]

i'm actually listening to that song

[void void]

haha

[woven otter]

I want to join that party

looks pretty fun

[minor badge]

wait is that really a song

[woven otter]

yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKZqGJONH68

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Toby Keith - Red Solo Cup (Unedited Version) - length 3m 45s - 206,314 likes, 16,608 dislikes (92.5%) - 52,107,115 views - TobyKeithVEVO on 2011.10.10

[void void]

you thought i was kidding

[woven otter]

you really did suggest 80s disco song

[minor badge]

80s disco is epic

[woven otter]

would be better to be at this age in 80s or 90s tbh

[minor badge]

id be negative age so not really, no

[woven otter]

what

ur weird

[minor badge]

likewise

[void void]

https://puu.sh/DS6ce/e25f289a88.png

[woven otter]

please don't

[minor badge]

please do

[woven otter]

so are you saying that your age is negative now as well ?

[minor badge]

almost

[void void]

HNGGGGNGNGNG
https://puu.sh/DS6dB/e0a25d62bc.png

[woven otter]

🤔

send help

[minor badge]

heres how i figure out how to fix tests:

1. ask mikro a very very vague question, relevance is optional
2. annoy him with x/y
3. figure it out and thank him

[void void]

fixed it

no mikro needed

mikroskeem? more like mikrosux

[limber knot]

suck my dik

[void void]

when and where

[woven otter]

stop picking on mikro

[minor badge]

im down

ill head over to estonia rn

[limber knot]

UwU

[woven otter]

wow weeb disease is spreading

[minor badge]

i might be the reason behind that

[limber knot]

nah

[woven otter]

that means it well hit me pretty soon since mikro is too close already

[limber knot]

i'm never gonna pick up weeb disease unironically

[void void]

alright, my user and session controllers are fully tested. now i have to test the other 3 controllers

[minor badge]

are u sure, mikro

[limber knot]

yes

[minor badge]

ehmmm

[woven otter]

[limber knot]

uwu

[void void]

wtf i fixed one test now the other two fail

[minor badge]

oh youre writing java, i see

[woven otter]

two stones with one bird

[minor badge]

you'll be the bird

[woven otter]

no you

[minor badge]

i lack wings

[woven otter]

that's fixable

[minor badge]

elytras do not exist irl, sorry

[woven otter]

well you can be the angel when you die

[minor badge]

im mikro's angel already xoxo

[limber knot]

😊

aight people, wtf is up with apple's quality lol

today my mbp's bottom started squeaking suddenly

[minor badge]

what, its as shit as it should be?

[woven otter]

https://i.imgur.com/Fa8g2ea.png

[void void]

is there a mouse in your mbp

[woven otter]

Z570

[limber knot]

but ok i'll head to sleep. it's goddamn 3am already

[woven otter]

only 3am

[minor badge]

sleep well daddy~ uwu

[woven otter]

what's proper sleeping schedule or sleep for that matter

[minor badge]

i think its something plebs do so that they dont get much use for paid sleeping facilities

[woven otter]

hmmm

need some action

[minor badge]

go to an american school

[woven otter]

america is too far away

[minor badge]

im sure an active hot topic area such as the swedish immigrators to the middle east is pretty action packed

[woven otter]

sweden is closer but still out of reach

[minor badge]

timetravel to 1972 and visit münchen?

[woven otter]

commiting neckrope sounds simpler than that

[minor badge]

but is it as fun?

also >not committing water breathing

[woven otter]

well haven't visited 1972 munchen or afterlife

difficult to say

[minor badge]

i think you should try the former first

[woven otter]

also commiting water breathing sounds very painful

[golden gust]

Go find out

[woven otter]

wow

[golden gust]

Make sure to test it for long enough though

Need accurate results 👌

[woven otter]

that's some bullying you know

[golden gust]

How do you think man learned that we can't jump off cliffs?

This is science!

[minor badge]

i never learnt that, mind demonstrating for me kittycat?

[woven otter]

that sounds like a contribution I wouldn't like to make

[golden gust]

I wanna get a bit older before I go for my award

[woven otter]

science doesn't need that information

[minor badge]

youre in your prime years, now is the time for an award if anytime

[golden gust]

[minor badge]

we can do it together!

[woven otter]

if you get a bit older it might be too late for the award

[minor badge]

how about you steal his award? :o

[woven otter]

you do it first

[void void]

I don't remember writing this https://puu.sh/DS6DA/0402da1e59.png

but thanks, me

[minor badge]

naa i have one already, you can do it

[woven otter]

proof?

[golden gust]

git blame it

see how bad your stink has been lurking around

[void void]

wait are you asking me to proof or prox

[minor badge]

@woven otter

[woven otter]

wow that's dumb

[minor badge]

likewise!

[woven otter]

wow

this bullying

[golden gust]

Is it bullying if it's true though?

[woven otter]

leaf need you to call them retarted

[minor badge]

ironic

[golden gust]

Who the heck said you didn't need your helmet today

duck

[minor badge]

im not

[woven otter]

i'm only wearing tinfoil hat

who needs helmets

[minor badge]

those who get dropped on their head hard enough thar they use tinfoil hats

[marble summit]

I am wearing a upside down spike as a hat

But instead of it being on my head it’s in my chest

I am now bleeding profusely

[woven otter]

as one man once said:
"ur retarded"

that's underwhelming:
https://i.imgur.com/VNsADuz.png

[vestal jasper]

260 here

[woven otter]

only 22 here

ur retarded

that's a great start isn't it

[marble summit]

Ur gay, be my bf @spare venture

[vestal jasper]

who'd want to date a weeb

[minor badge]

is this about when i raise my hand!

?*

[limber knot]

Can anyone tell what caused this crash? https://pastebin.com/bLsr3yAW

[vestal jasper]

a lack of ticks

[golden gust]

ramdom teleport from the looks of it

[limber knot]

Is there anything there suggesting new chunks being formed?

[golden gust]

loading/conversion from the looks of it

[limber knot]

I'm sry. What is loading/conversion?

[golden gust]

of chunks

[limber knot]

New or existing chunks?

[golden gust]

existing

[limber knot]

When you say conversion, do you mean they were 1.13 chunks and are being converted to 1.14 or am I missunderstanding?

[golden gust]

Yes, that's what I mean

[marble summit]

@vestal jasper stfu furry

Before I send you to the pound

[limber knot]

Maybe I should use worldboarder to force build that map. That should convert all the chunks, wouldn't it?

[vestal jasper]

Isn't there a startup flag to force convert all chunks

[limber knot]

Startup flag? Where does that go?

[minor badge]

on the moon, of course!

[vestal jasper]

with the other startup flags

[limber knot]

Thank you for your help electriccat.

[void void]

this is so weird to write but worth it i guess lul https://puu.sh/DS89Y/14bf90be28.png

[woven otter]

what that

prox is a weeb

[void void]

tests

[woven otter]

oh you're right

[minor badge]

likewise @woven otter

[woven otter]

[minor badge]

and now its almost 4am so good night

[woven otter]

almost 5 am

goodnight

[void void]

Alright, this is annoying lol. This test just had to sign up, log in, check session valid, create room; sign up user 2, log in user 2, check session valid for user 2, try to read the room (and fail), delete user one, try to read the room (and fail, expecting 404), then delete user two.

😫

[cosmic raft]

how many times can Work appear in one sentence

5. If you are not the Current Maintainer of the Work, you may modify your copy of the Work, thus creating a Derived Work based on the Work, and compile this Derived Work, thus creating a Compiled Work based on the Derived Work.

[void void]

all of the times

does the antixray from 129 version work?

[vestal jasper]

no they merged it so they can fix it later /s

[marble summit]

This is how i picture all of you

🐶

Furries.

[vestal jasper]

ok weeb

[void void]

says the dude who calls himself teto

[marble summit]

Says the person who can only say woof, and bark

[void void]

so the antixray doesnt work on version 129

[fallen oracle]

Only for you

Hey simple

[void void]

wassap

didnt asked you

[fallen oracle]

Clip made me steak

It was pretty good

[vestal jasper]

You literally asked everyone

[fallen oracle]

Ikr

[void void]

If you ask the room, you asked everyone. Don't be a douchebag.

[fallen oracle]

Lol

[void void]

Lest you get banned again.

[vestal jasper]

You came into a public channel and broadcast that something which was heavily tested doesn't work

[stiff yarrow]

when weebs are so self concious they insult other weebs

[void void]

Just ignore him, he's one of the biggest dumbasses in this channel /shrug

[vestal jasper]

You can't expect not to get responses

[stiff yarrow]

embrace being a weeb you tennen bokes

[fallen oracle]

We talked about you nossr

[stiff yarrow]

aww 😊

[vestal jasper]

hi noss

[stiff yarrow]

I hope it was a good talk

hi vic

[vestal jasper]

[fallen oracle]

We just talked about BSP

[ornate spindle]

mfw I pop into paper and see they're talking about weebs. Meanwhile I'm about to watch https://i.tcpr.ca/bPo70qq

[void void]

It went like this "nossr - im actually not sure how to say that"
queue about 10 mins of them talking about how to pronounce your name before moving on

[fallen oracle]

Noss-er

[stiff yarrow]

@ornate spindle eh that ones not too great unless you're really craving fanservice with a meh plot

[ornate spindle]

2nd season is shit?

[vestal jasper]

"fanservice with meh plot"
so softcore?

[void void]

im making shortcut methods to make my tests easier to read and write, am i a bad person

[ornate spindle]

the first season was alright imo, I mainly just like the whole fantasy type stuff

[void void]

bc this is fucking kILLING ME

[stiff yarrow]

@void void the name was a combination of "Nosferatu" and "SR50 (Strafe Run 50)", I originally pronounced it "Nos Ess Arr Fifty" myself but now I say it like "nos-sir-fifty"

@void void sounds like efficiency

[void void]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFlJus0v2kM

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Nosferatu Flicking the lights on and off - Spongebob - length 19s - 1,183 likes, 10 dislikes (99.2%) - 67,152 views - Nosferatu Flickering The Lights On and Off on 2017.04.22

[vestal jasper]

I just say noss

who needs the extra bits

[limber knot]

the command parser for vanilla commands is somehow broken. Try something like "/particle minecraft:heart ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ 1" - It says something like "Float must not be more than -3.4E38, ..." - in vanilla it works

[void void]

i think thats known and wontfix a la md_5 Brokkoli

[limber knot]

ok?

[void void]

ok

[limber knot]

ok

it works in spigot

[void void]

ok then, make issue on gh

damn im tired of these tests, am gonna do something else

[limber knot]

uhm looks like its a bungee bug.. without bungee it works

so i should go there i think..

[void void]

does it work with waterfall instead of bungee

[limber knot]

no

https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord/blob/master/protocol/src/main/java/net/md_5/bungee/protocol/packet/Commands.java#L360

[dusky chasm]

Okay so someone sent me this screenshot about a new dupe glitch, its likely real as ive banned so many alts from them. If anyone has any information that would be great, i dont want servers to become effected by another enormous issue with dupes again. They said its in 1.14.3.
That is all i know
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523331064115232769/599448840848015380/image0.png

[limber knot]

without more information its not fixable (if its real)

[void void]

ye have to know how it's done

[dusky chasm]

Well ye of course, however they will not tell anyone. So i want to start some awareness about it just in case, as it can quickly become a catastrophe if a youtube video appears

[limber knot]

villapocalypse? :D

[vestal jasper]

purge them

[upper flicker]

vicarious_cat_shocked.png

[vestal jasper]

he tried to steal some ham after I gave him some

apparently I didn't give him enough

[marble summit]

You have been GNOMED

[ancient bolt]

hmmm

[sturdy fulcrum]

so happy to be back home...

[vestal jasper]

gg

[sturdy fulcrum]

I got to meet a few people from my minecraft adventures on my vacation so that was cool

[limber knot]

ok wtf is wrong with the lounge

won't set my nick or identify

[limber knot]

Guest41195: RIP

[limber knot]

ok what

someone's gonna get hurt real bad

[modest stream]

What is ‘’’travertine’’’

‘’’travertine’’’

[quasi valley]

https://kennytv.eu/files/ziwia.png

[modest stream]

Ohhh

Thanks

[viscid aurora]

-3- any one know OVH hosting, payment check manual took how much time

4 days later, still shows.. We check your payment manually

[golden gust]

They're french

Somebody probably drove past the place with something resembling a white flag and they all booked it

[viscid aurora]

okay, but their hompage said 120s delievery..

[quiet turret]

@viscid aurora just check the panel

sometimes that invoice page breaks so

[viscid aurora]

nope, it said I don't have any servies

il confused, if dedicated server is sold out,why they answer me I can get my server in 120 second

afraid of this company fraund again, after Google ovh ,so many customer can't get their order

[limber knot]

@W​in​dU​nw​ak​en​ are you by chance in any country that isn't France or Germany? xD

(e.g. any non-cool country)

runs

[viscid aurora]

@wheat quarry yep,I live in Asia,and I order Singapore server

[limber knot]

yeah, processing of foreign (especially non-EU) stuff will most likely take longer. usually helps when you were a confirmed customer before already though

[viscid aurora]

already wating for 4 days, its disappointing

[limber knot]

did you sucessfully confirm your identity yet?

[viscid aurora]

I recieved email said they confirm my order

also they took my money

but ... no servies

and then , control panel status shows we need to check payment manually

I think ovh scam my money, I will try nation legal method

120 us dollar per month,not a little

[limber knot]

I don't think OVH would scam money xD

there are reasons for payment to be manually approved, e.g. them stemming from untrusted banks/countries

which in the case of EU companies is basically everything that isn't part of the EU or USA/Canada :S

[viscid aurora]

not truth, searching ovh scan in asia

scam

too many forum hates ovh, waiting 30 days get server,or no money back and banned without reason

[limber knot]

I mean there's always tons of people spewing stuff online because they don't understand what it means to do business with en EU company ¯_(ツ)_/¯

we have some special laws here...

[viscid aurora]

if Asia customer tried to contact, got banned

they sell Asia machine,and customer lives in asia

ovh don't have department sales in asia?

[limber knot]

all the info should be on their website

[viscid aurora]

yep, no response

Twitter, Facebook, mail,ticket

[limber knot]

just give the customer service a call ¯_(ツ)_/¯

(Monday to Friday, 7am to 5pm (GMT+8))

its obviously weekend right now so nothing will be done until Monday

[viscid aurora]

they deny Asia customer call

I order my server on Wednesday

what now

[limber knot]

not sure what the time you ordered it has to do anything with the fact that the customer service isn't available on the weekend? 🤔

[acoustic pilot]

chargeback if you don't like it lol

[limber knot]

basically ¯_(ツ)_/¯

btw. how did you pay? paypal?

[acoustic pilot]

doesn't matter what country you live in, you typically have recourse to get your money back, either thru your financial institution's chargeback or some other dispute process.

[limber knot]

(also in regards to asia offices: they have OVH Singapore Pte Ltd)

[viscid aurora]

credit card directly

[acoustic pilot]

ok so charge back lol

[limber knot]

ah yeah

[acoustic pilot]

easiest way to get your money back

[limber knot]

credit cards are always iffy

[acoustic pilot]

credit cards are the easiest

what do you mean

[limber knot]

europeans don't like credit cards

[acoustic pilot]

literally call your bank and tell them you want to reverse the transaction

[limber knot]

and they are the easiest to scam with

[acoustic pilot]

that you did not receive what you paid for

[limber knot]

using paypal or a trusted service (e.g. an IBAN transfer) is usually a lot better when doing business with a company in the EU

[acoustic pilot]

if you reverse the transaction though, OVH will surely ban you from future purchases 😛

doesn't sound like you care though

[limber knot]

I would just wait until they get back to the ticket ¯_(ツ)_/¯ you'll get the money back either way and maybe don't end up on the "potential scammer" list

[acoustic pilot]

technically he/she wouldn't be the one considered a "scammer" if he waited 4 days for something

even for verification, it's an outrageous expectation

[viscid aurora]

what

PayPal also bind credicard,right?

[acoustic pilot]

from the point of view of their financial institution, they would simply reverse the transaction, and that doesn't necessarily mean it's fraudulent

imo there's plenty of justification

[limber knot]

that's why I added "potential" :P

[acoustic pilot]

but OVH would probably blacklist you on their own services

[viscid aurora]

... but my bank told me

[limber knot]

(and I meant OVH internally, not witht he bank xD)

[viscid aurora]

they already took my money

[acoustic pilot]

oh well yeah

[viscid aurora]

300 dollars guy....

[acoustic pilot]

if you chargeback then the entity you're charging back against isn't going to be happy

in any case.

because chargebacks = fees

@viscid aurora ok, so get it back

c h a r g e b a c k

be an adult

and exercise your financial rights lol

instead of crying

[viscid aurora]

so it's my fault ,I choose credit card not paypal

😂 😂

[acoustic pilot]

you already have teh solution

chargeback

you're choosing not to do it

[limber knot]

ideally it would not make a difference ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[viscid aurora]

okay, chargeback,and spent 100 for lawyer

😂

[acoustic pilot]

what are you, 12?

that's not how chargebacks work

[viscid aurora]

30

[acoustic pilot]

call bank, tell them you want to reverse the transaction

boom, done

that's what a chargeback is

[viscid aurora]

okay, I will try

I hope my band can help

[acoustic pilot]

all you gotta do is say you waited X amount of days and you didn't receive your purchase

then OVH has to PROVE to YOUR BANK that you DID receive

but obviously THEY CANT

so you keep your money.

this is how chargebacks are supposed to work.

aka how to be an adult.

[static badge]

ur face is a chargeback

[viscid aurora]

clanwarz,mcpro,gcp, 10second got servies

ovh 30days

good

😂

[limber knot]

comparing some small game server host with one of the largest dedicated server providers worldwide

[acoustic pilot]

OVH likely doesn't consider Asia a big market for them

[viscid aurora]

... all my order are dedicated server

[acoustic pilot]

OVH US/CA/EU are excellent

[limber knot]

well they are also rather new in Asia

[limber knot]

and I can understand why they are sceptical about credit card purchases from there. and for all we know there might even be a legitimate reason why they have to manually aprove it e.g. the credit card number beeing blacklisted as stolen or involved into scams or something?

[acoustic pilot]

I think considering OVH's business model, they must've assessed that building new datacenters/infrastructure in Asia/Singapore isn't as cost-effective as elsewhere.

Where as there are plenty of existing options perhaps resellers can tap into.

In my experience working IT in Asia in the past, most local companies host with local providers.

By local provider I mean a domestic entity

[ornate spindle]

I still find it interesting that ovh went with australia instead of new zealand

[limber knot]

isn't AU the larger country? xD

[acoustic pilot]

Can't see NZ being a good choice

AU is larger and is more accessible

[viscid aurora]

okay,okay,next I will remember use PayPal

[ornate spindle]

their network doesn't seem that great though, at least when I compared a few hosts I tested in AU vs NZ

[acoustic pilot]

AU/NZ are victims of geography but AU in particular seems to have either shitty infrastructure or shitty government.

Maybe both

Seemed like AU gets really screwed on internet offerings too

[ornate spindle]

which is why I assume NZ would be a better option because the connectivity of servers I had there was way better than in AU

[acoustic pilot]

I don't know if that's due to AU's geographic and as a consequence infrastructure being more of a challenge, or because of a highly deregulated ISP market

[limber knot]

wasn't australia the one who build a government internet all over the country? 🤔

[ornate spindle]

I think it is because their government controls all of the fibre internet there

[acoustic pilot]

The rates they're getting even domestically is really sad

[hearty sand]

@fervent marsh mind sharing your settings?

[ornate spindle]

they're a first world country with basically 2nd/3rd world internet

[fervent marsh]

I'll see if I can find them

[ornate spindle]

hasn't that few more years lasted like nearly a decade

big rip

[acoustic pilot]

It can't go on for much longer

[limber knot]

ah, sounds like what happened in germany -.- Telekom decided to strain the copper network more instead of using fiber

[ornate spindle]

I really hope they get that stuff sorted out

[acoustic pilot]

Esp with shit like 4k streaming lol

[ornate spindle]

yeah, like who will buy a 4k tv if you can't even stream 4k netflix

[acoustic pilot]

Geographically Aus is in a good place for delivering content to parts of Asia and NZ, but infrastructure is just so horrible for that to be realistic

[ornate spindle]

isn't that why singapore has basically become the hub for that sort of stuff

[acoustic pilot]

Yeah, it is

Singapore is basically what AU should've been

[ornate spindle]

true

[acoustic pilot]

The cost of actually hosting in Aus for what you get is just not worth it

[ornate spindle]

@native cradle I assume the people making those plans don't even understand the wires have a capacity

[acoustic pilot]

It goes to Signapore instead 😛

[ornate spindle]

I bet if OVH chose NZ, they'd likely have close to if not the same bandwidth as NA ovh

[fallen oracle]

What time is it socially acceptable to mow in the morning?

[acoustic pilot]

I'd say around 10

but one of my neighbors is an asshole, I've heard mowing and leaf blowing as early as 8

and it tends to happen on the weekend, i guess because it's his days off

[limber knot]

only between 4 and 6pm

runs

[ornate spindle]

just buy an electric lawn mower and mow your lawn at 3am

[fervent marsh]

@hearty sand I'm sorry, I can't find the file with settings, not sure where else to look, none that I've seen match it

Electric mower is loud

[fallen oracle]

The ones I've seen are pretty quiet.

[limber knot]

depends on the definition of "quiet" really

they are definitly not "being able to sleep with your window open while someone is mowing right in front if it and you have a light sleep"-quiet

[acoustic pilot]

My window is probably no more than 10 meters from where my neighbor's backyard is where he mows in the morning 😦

[fervent marsh]

@hearty sand ok no, turns out it deleted my preferences and i didn't notice

[hearty sand]

@fervent marsh xd

[fervent marsh]

ill try to reset and give to you

[hearty sand]

k thank you

[fallen oracle]

Lol what https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/bertspigot.69276/

[quasi valley]

60 TPS

Language supported: Germany

[void void]

🎉 🎉 🎉

😒

[merry talon]

Got in invite to do some testing and give feedback at X cloud provider HQ

I can't tell if this is a "come drop by" thing or "we'll fly you out here"

too afraid to ask

[limber knot]

ask

[grizzled kettle]

Anyone here use Hetzner Cloud?
Considering one of their VPS plans

[void void]

yey

finally got iMessage working 😄

[latent sorrel]

I love how every time I check the downloads page there is a new version fixing stuff ❤

[fallen oracle]

I like how sometimes I'll call my dog and he'll come to me (:

[latent sorrel]

Is the sometimes only at feeding time?

[digital talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRhA3ygV3Rk

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Dog doing "Beer Me" - length 14s - 1,296 likes, 17 dislikes (98.7%) - 317,880 views - jlgardner48 on 2011.10.28

[latent sorrel]

hes so happy to do it too

that bounding run to close the door

[limber knot]

depends on the vps and the server

:P

just read the code? 🤔

^

you don't have the source?

[merry talon]

'my plugin'

[limber knot]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

what's the explanation then

[hot gorge]

Reverse engineering time

[latent sorrel]

What does it do? There might be one that exists nowadays that already does the same thing. @spare venture

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/first-join-commands.16188/

Its called first join but it does specific worlds too

It sounds like you should be able to do that with the plugin I linked. Might need to combine it with custom commands

Ah, ok. I dont know enough java to help you with yours, so figured id try.

might be something else out there too if you havent looked. I only googled once to find that one

[woven otter]

Wtf barty

Irc never forgets

[limber knot]

🦆

[woven otter]

Hello tacoman

[limber knot]

🌮👨

[latent sorrel]

Creative

[limber knot]

🌈

[static badge]

[woven otter]

That works right?

[rigid oasis]

Whats no table for?

[woven otter]

For those without a table

[golden gust]

People who are notable in the community

[woven otter]

You ruined it

[golden gust]

So much so that they've no longer got a table due to facedesking it from the stuff they have to deal with

[static badge]

even i could do better

[golden gust]

k

[static badge]

certainly not dumb

[upper flicker]

probably put burritos in the taco channel at one point

[static badge]

don't you remember

[fallen oracle]

I found poprocks

[static badge]

🌯 ✅ 🌮 ❎

[spiral garden]

as a no table person, I can confirm that my keyboard and mouse are floating in the air

damn, the privileges a discord role gives

[limber knot]

hey pals so I need a recommendation

sa

my laptop got stolen the other day and I need to replace it

yarrahlar

[static badge]

stolen

[limber knot]

i had a dell xps 9550 before so that's the general idea of what i need

yeah my car got broken into

[upper flicker]

any reason you dont go out and get another one?

or just open to new stuff

[limber knot]

open to new stuff mostly

[golden gust]

And, well, it is a dell

[upper flicker]

dell has been getting it together since they took it private

their lower end stuff is still a lil questionable

[limber knot]

if i get another one it'll probably be the 9570 just because it's cheaper now

[upper flicker]

XPS line and latitudes tend to be bullet proof

[limber knot]

but yeah the higher-end stuff has been really good for a lot of people I know

[golden gust]

Too used to seeing laptops from places like that which creak when you pick them up 😄

Saying that, "the push to slim" helps a lot as they have to make it more robust \o/

[upper flicker]

they run linux pretty well now too

[limber knot]

i dropped mine like 3 times out of my control booth last semester and it was fine

yeah my dual-boot was pretty good

[upper flicker]

think there's some people who need to swap the wifi card but idk what models that is

[limber knot]

surprisingly stable even with bumblebee

and like, they're pretty affordable for what you're getting, i was looking at a thinkpad also and the comparable one's like at least 400 more

[spiral garden]

thinkpads (the higher class) are indestructible

[latent sorrel]

So what do you guys use for backups? I was looking into Borg after someone recommended it but it does not support my current OS choice. Are any of the plugins out there for it useful? Standalone programs work as well though.

[limber knot]

yeah unfortunately i'm kind of stuck trying to get a touchscreen model

for work stuff

so that class of thinkpads seems to run like 2k

[digital talon]

I still use PerfectBackup from bukkit for a smaller backup once a day

[latent sorrel]

It still works fine even not being updated since 2016? @digital talon

[digital talon]

Yes... but the server could get laggy for a minute ^^

[latent sorrel]

lol. Ill give it a try and see how it does. I am trying to find a backup option that can handle ~40GB

[digital talon]

I am using this at nighttime but announcing that it could get laggy next 1-2 minutes 😉

I don´t think it is useful for a complete backup.

I am only using it for building-worlds and important plugins

[latent sorrel]

My SQL DB is 20GB of that alone

[digital talon]

iirc thats only for your server folders and not for external directories

[latent sorrel]

damn

[digital talon]

but 20gb in your SQL? anything so important in there?

sounds like dynmap or coreprotect

[latent sorrel]

ah yea dynmap is mostly taking that up, so I can exclude that from most backups and just do it every now and then

[digital talon]

yes dynmap is easy to rebuild... I don´t have backups for that

[latent sorrel]

Well not easy enough I wouldnt want a backup. Took days and days to render a low quality. Map is HUGE

40kx40k

[digital talon]

20 gb is not very huge for dynmap... maybe change format from png to jpg?

I mean it is annoying to regenerate that... but it is possible. My daily backups are more concerned about things players have build/done/achieved

[latent sorrel]

With the current MC version the worldborder fill option doesnt work right with dynmap so we had to manually uncover it

Once that works, yea a redo of the map would only take like overnight

[digital talon]

I think rsync in linux would do it way better, but you asked for a plugin 😃

[hollow minnow]

Will paper be available for 1.14.4 soon?

[latent sorrel]

Im tryin out AOMEI at the moment

seems like itll do nicely

[fallen oracle]

How many pre-releases is 1.14.4 going to have? Lol

[static badge]

I think they want .4 to be their last

[upper flicker]

Great another release only a quarter of servers can update to

Thanks 1.14

[fallen oracle]

(:

[vestal jasper]

.4 has to be out for paper .4

[static badge]

I think 50% of paper servers are .14 according to bstats

not all .3 weirdly

is there some critical shit preventing an update or what

[fallen oracle]

Well I know there was a server crash with villagers in .2

[static badge]

https://bstats.org/plugin/server-implementation/Paper

[fallen oracle]

Or maybe that was pre-prease 2

[static badge]

10% on .2 like wat

[fallen oracle]

How many on 1.6?

[static badge]

idk

problemo with bstatsarino is that it's not all servers

[void void]

1.14 isnt bad, its just not ready

Hello btw

Thats like... your opinion man

[vestal jasper]

No it literally is terrible without async chunk io

Even then it's pretty bad

[void void]

I thought you guys had a section here for plugin developers... I was lied to...

[vestal jasper]

#paper-dev

[fallen oracle]

#paper-dev ?

[void void]

Oh

Found it

[static badge]

#paper-dev

[fallen oracle]

You're late leaf

[static badge]

ur retarded

[void void]

no u

[fallen oracle]

https://media.tenor.com/images/9279ec9f4da6b7fd907c7eccb8d409f5/tenor.gif

[void void]

So uh... do spigot plugins work with paper servers or naw?

[fallen oracle]

Yes

[void void]

Sweet

[fallen oracle]

Paper is just an advanced version

[void void]

Cause I just coded this sick rpg plugin

[fallen oracle]

Has a better API

[vestal jasper]

TLDR if the plugin is sanely written there's a 99.9% chance it'll work

[void void]

That channel called tacos makes me want to go to el jeffes b4 work

[fallen oracle]

I love when people contact me on the forums and they don't tell me what plug-in they are referring to.

[void void]

Define sanely written.

[vestal jasper]

If it just uses the bukkit/spigot APIs then it'll 100% work

If you decide to directly modify world entity lists instead of using bukkit methods things may break

[void void]

Like nms?

[vestal jasper]

Most NMS should be fine from what I've seen but the occasional object type changes for one reason or another

[void void]

Im gonna be honest... I dont have a clue how to do nms. I tried to get into it but it was so stupid.

[vestal jasper]

Doesn't help that spigot only maps things it cares about

Oh yeah leaf you're retarded

[golden gust]

@fallen oracle HALP DOESN'T WORK

[vestal jasper]

[golden gust]

Actually, let me retype that in a way he'll understand

HÄLP DÖSEN'T WÖRK

[vestal jasper]

@fallen oracle am no good at plogins pls to help

[void void]

So uhh... any rules against me posting a link to my plugin and getting feedback? 😄

[golden gust]

🤷

I can totally keyboard

General gist is that so long as you're not blatently advertising, I really don't care

[vestal jasper]

I mean I imagine if it's just an advertisement it likely wouldn't be tolerated
But if you're asking for reviews or whatnot I feel like it'd be fine

[static badge]

as long as there's no discriminatory language involved it's fine

[golden gust]

[vestal jasper]

[static badge]

[void void]

Nah none of that. I mean, unless yall wanna follow me on instagram

jk

[vestal jasper]

🥚

[wide hazel]

GitHub source or GTFO :P

[void void]

[vestal jasper]

Oh whoever linked to Ben Eater a while back, I can't thank you enough

[fallen oracle]

@golden gust ï úñdèrstæñd you LOUD and CLÈÆR

Dat is wanneer ik gewoon in een willekeurige taal reageer om ze van de baan te brengen.

[void void]

What ever that means

[wide chasm]

Ah, yes, Dutch, my favorite language

[digital talon]

these doped dutch guys ^^

[fallen oracle]

Est-ce que les gens pensent réellement que s'ils disent "J’ai besoin d’aide rapidement", ils obtiendront de l’aide plus rapidement?

[void void]

I might work on a proper documentation for my plugin tonight. Ive been neglecting that a lot

[wide chasm]

French

2/2 currently

[void void]

3*

[fallen oracle]

Actually it's pronounced surrender.

[quasi valley]

I'm honestly astonished I actually understood that French sentence

[wide chasm]

Luckily I'm only writing.

[quasi valley]

had it in school for like 7 years but have no idea how to language

[wide chasm]

3 years here and no clue what it says.

[fallen oracle]

Verby die pudding, bröthers.

[quasi valley]

Auf in den Kampf, meine Brüder

[cosmic raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPabKxzcy6o

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Billy Talent - Surrender [Official Music Video] - length 4m 5s - 76,228 likes, 1,896 dislikes (97.6%) - 17,401,382 views - NettwerkMusic on 2007.07.11

[cosmic raft]

surrrrrrrendeeeeeeeeeeeeer

[fallen oracle]

Hey, did you get a razor yet?

[wide chasm]

German for Kenny, Swedish for Glare?

[cosmic raft]

me? not yet

[fallen oracle]

If you don't get a razor soon I'm going to tell everyone your secret.

[cosmic raft]

my secret?

[fallen oracle]

Ya

@simple

Dammit discord mobile

@void void

[woven otter]

simple

[quasi valley]

🦆💨

[woven otter]

farting duck?

[quasi valley]

exactly

[digital talon]

ill

[woven otter]

it will fart in your face

[marble summit]

@void void Well you just gotta look through craftbukkit source and find the NMS part to learn how to use it

[void void]

wat @fallen oracle i was eating pizza

[quasi valley]

fatty

[green edge]

Do you have any solution to encourage people to take a look at the plugin configuration?

Having a plugin that doesn't have the most appropriate default settings (can't make them better due to various usages the plugin has). Need some way to make people look at how to configure it before getting annoyed at the plugin, and removing it

[golden gust]

best you can do is document the config

if people can't be assed to look for it, there ain't much you can really do about people not looking for it

[green edge]

thing is people complain the plugin doesn't work, and I don't know what to do to make them first try to configure it.

[vestal jasper]

Have a setting that crashes the server when disabled

:^)

[void void]

i mean, i guess you can put like a first-boot key in the config, check if true, send a message reminding them to configure config or whatever idk depends on your plugin. if you're storing user data, check for first login, if has perm then send message when they log in to configure the config but idk. Seems kinda pointless. Sounds like you just have really retarded users.

I should just say users, because they're all really retarded

[green edge]

Getting around 1 complaint on paper discord a day 😐

https://sfy.cx/ss/u/761a.png

[void void]

you dont have to cross it out we know what it is

[green edge]

i know

but still i don't want to advertise

[void void]

write a plugin wiki, put it on your resource page

[wild halo]

Does someone have a start.bat with 6 gigabyte?

[void void]

java -Xms6G -Xmx6G -jar <jarfile>.jar
pause

[wild halo]

Okay thank you 😄

[green edge]

documentation is probably not the issue since half of the config is comments
https://sfy.cx/ss/u/d83b.png

Issue is that i need to get people to look at it it first.
Now that i'm thinking about it, a message on first plugin run wouldn't hurt

or maybe check for the configuration file checksum and if it's the default keep spewing a warn on plugin enable

[void void]

what if they want to use default lol

dont do that

[green edge]

have a config value to hide that message

[void void]

i guess... lul

[green edge]

brainstorming solutions ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cosmic raft]

heh github added another popup for it

[void void]

oh boy....here we go again, writing tests. again.

for what?

[cosmic raft]

https://i.imgur.com/EtTkmZK.png

[void void]

the 1.14 push?

[cosmic raft]

yeah, since ver/1.14 isn't the root branch it things i might want to merge it into master

but that spot for that message is new

[void void]

ah

my fucking api was throwing 500 errors for missing params, that would be a bad request >:( now i gotta rewrite my tests kill me

well

fix my tests

but still

i hate tests

[woven otter]

rip

[quasi valley]

can someone tell me what language that is, google translate doesnt even recognize it https://kennytv.eu/files/pbwa0.png

[void void]

dutch?

"Oh you're from NL? I can too"
and then i don't know enough to read the rest

could also be flemish or afrikaans but i don't know, they're all very similar

[woven otter]

looks pretty dutch

[void void]

yea

[woven otter]

needs more boosts

[static badge]

kappa

[quasi valley]

I would if I actually needed the games

[void void]

i dont even do the games

i have them tho

[quasi valley]

I dont have the reduced price from early subs and 10€ are 10€ for a student without a job

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[void void]

yeah :\ I have the reduced price, but I don't have a job and fulltime student again starting 19th august so :-)

probably won't be nitro very long

that's cute, discord doesn't work with mac window snapping (thru magnet, at least)

[woven otter]

that's sad

[quasi valley]

gotta love dumcord, I have a hotkey on right ctrl... somehow pressing alt gr/right alt also activates it

[void void]

it doesn't help that these specific tests are so slow because it has to spin up the entire app, run a test, shut down, move to next test and repeat

:^)

wtf

This test passes if I run it by itself but fails if I run it with the rest of the tests

[gusty idol]

How can I get the wrapper class that's associated with a primitive data type?

Let's say I have a Class<?> clazz

And that clazz.isPrimitive() returns true

Is there a way I can get the wrapper class that's associated with the primitive data type?

[void void]

You just cast to it

it's called autoboxing

[static badge]

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/lang/Integer.html#TYPE

[gusty idol]

Do I need a switch statement and compare the class against all primitive data types?

Does the JDK have no method for this?

[void void]

public <T> T box(T t) {
  return t;
}

int a = 1;
Integer i = box(a);

it will work :^)

[gusty idol]

I need to get the Class object though, not an instance of the wrapper class

Because in my code I'm calling Array.newInstance(clazz, args.size());

[void void]

o.o

[gusty idol]

And it seems that Java doesn't want me to use a primitive data type as clazz when calling Array#newInstance

I guess I'll just use a switch statement and compare the class against all primitive data types

[void void]

what in gods name

[gusty idol]

Yeah my thing is a mess

[void void]

you just just call getClass on the result of box

i guess

[gusty idol]

But I don't know what the class is equal to

It can be any of the primitive data types

I only just thought of a switch statement

I'll go with that

[void void]

i mean yea it'll work but 3 out of 4 times it's not necessary

but ok

good luck

[lost creek]

is there a link to get the newest 1.14.3 jar using wget?

[void void]

is wget essential

can you use curl

[lost creek]

?

not sure

[void void]

curl -Lo paper.jar <url>

instead of wget

[lost creek]

I don't know

I'm on Cent OS 7, ssh'ed in, and need to get the jar: paper 1.14.3 #131

[void void]

curl will work, do what i said. use the download link from papermc.io/downloads

[lost creek]

I'm a bit new to linux still...

[void void]

You can just use this link too:
https://papermc.io/api/v1/paper/1.14.3/latest/download

[lost creek]

so... This:
curl -Lo paper.jar https://papermc.io/api/v1/paper/1.14.3/latest/download

[void void]

ye

[golden gust]

Generally better off grabbing the link from the site unless you're tryna automate it

[void void]

Norton told me that download was a virus