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golden gust
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Depends on your players and what they're doing, really

left yacht
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I did inhale shampoo earlier today so that's probably why I'm being dumbo mode rn

tardy lynx
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non-competetive server

golden gust
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If you've only been DDoS'd once, I'd maybe guess that your ISP has some form of mitigation, or that you're not a PvP server

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So, the latter 😄

left yacht
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pvp servers are cancer

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there is literally no other way to put it

golden gust
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if you run any server around pvp, ddos attacks are basically inevitable

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Somebody /always/ finds a way to be salty

tardy lynx
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semivanilla's usually chill

left yacht
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80% of those disputes come from our pvp servers

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even though they earn less than 30% of our revenue

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we use OVH.

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game servers have rather annoying issues

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like randomly disconnecting TCP sessions

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and entirely dropping out

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so we prefer the Advance lineup

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given that you talk about essential, I assume you want SYS

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well given that tcpshield uses purely cloud servers and advance servers for mitigation.

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SYS is alright for starting out.

golden gust
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With OVH I'm pretty sure that there are known issues with their mitigation stuff

tardy lynx
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Used Kimsufi for a few months

golden gust
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Apparently running perm mitigation can help, but honestly not had a server running fully on OVH in a while to test

left yacht
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you can use the OVH API though to filter out attacks pretty nicely though.

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on more then one occasion we used it to block a bunch of IPs slamming us.

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but yeah stock OVH

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isn't fantastic

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leaves a lot to be desired

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and also @golden gust most attacks we get are internal now

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biggest problem with OVH and their prices

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so easy to get an OVH machine and just hit off other OVH machines.

golden gust
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rip

quasi valley
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That’s just sad 😂

left yacht
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yes

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people pay OVH to hit us off practically

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they get suspended

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without refunds

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but it's still annoying

fallen oracle
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That's sad

left yacht
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uh

golden gust
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Does their monitoring system at least pick it up or do you guys get to play with OVHs support?

quasi valley
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We gladly have a nice protection, it might lag for a short bit because of the loads of horrors, but it works™

left yacht
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and yes their monitoring system picks it up

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most of the time

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but some stuff still slips through

shut thicket
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So I'm at a company provided 4th july lunch, and I'm the youngest person here.

left yacht
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fortunately OVH's solution to the problem

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is making all advance servers with 10G inbound

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but only 1G outbound

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meaning you need roughly 1000 USD

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to hit off a single advance node internally now

shut thicket
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Listening to the office folks talk politics in a mocking manner is just... strange.

fallen oracle
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I got to play with a 40GB inbound server a few months ago, I was in heaven.

golden gust
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Humans are weird, suggest avoid!

tardy lynx
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How's performance on 1.14 nowadays?

left yacht
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other owner of my company is a straight trump supporter while I'm liberal

fallen oracle
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It was a super computer.

left yacht
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rule is to never talk about politics

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or religion

golden gust
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Probably 1-5% better than 1.14

shut thicket
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I'm hiding in my office away from people

left yacht
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and a "supercomputer" ok

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supercomputers have a bit more than 40G uplinks

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I guess relatively speaking

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yeah that was a baller server

fallen oracle
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That's all they allowed me to play with.

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I was visiting a college

shut thicket
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Because then people will ask for my quite differing choice of opinions and then make me explain it, while trying to explain it in the least confronting way possible

left yacht
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"you can't be trusted, so we'll only give you 40G"

fallen oracle
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Well it was a demo

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They won't let us accidentally fuck stuff up

left yacht
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NOPE

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bruteforcing OVH boxes is borderline impossible

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they give you heavily randomized passwords

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if you can bruteforce an OVH box.

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welp someone else already did it

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and it already got suspended

golden gust
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Don't do my mistake

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I created an lxc container and totally forgot to change the password

left yacht
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worst thing I've done was put my raspberry pi on the internet

fallen oracle
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I had a host once give me a random password that sadly Ike password123 and within 24 hours (before I even logged into the machine) it was bruteforced and used in a botnet.

left yacht
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with the default password

golden gust
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Did not end well 😦

fallen oracle
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I had to convince them I didn't even login

left yacht
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within 10 minutes it got compromised

golden gust
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lol

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The lxc templates basically created some user account by default which i totally forgot about

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I secured the heck outta root, but like... yea...

left yacht
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default passwords will be the death of the internet

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I swear to god

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(shoutout to comcast for making the web interface public)

wide chasm
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I prefer it if people send me a password by e-mail /s

left yacht
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and I guess AndGK

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but from our case

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the "ddoser"

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usually pms us

golden gust
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Hey, did you forget your password?

left yacht
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saying he wasted 80 dollars

golden gust
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Here it is!

left yacht
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to drop us

fallen oracle
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Alrighty, so, question. Getting another 50GB disk on an OVH VPS is the same price as getting another VPS. Do I get the disk space or just another VPS?

left yacht
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because skids usually need ego boosters

wide chasm
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Bonus points if the password is not a new one, but actually your old password.

void void
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in other words he bought a booter because he doesn't have any actual infrastructure of his own

golden gust
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Well, do you want the disk space or another VPS?

left yacht
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I like disk space bcause I never clean my screenshots folder

fallen oracle
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I mean I could connect the vps to the regular one and use disk vis that

left yacht
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100k strong since 2014.

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some good memories in there

fallen oracle
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Lol

left yacht
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and some pretty horrifying ones

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that I never want to see again

fallen oracle
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I've got a shit load of disk space on my home setup, but my VPS has a 50GB disk. I use it for my Nexus server

left yacht
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"any server"

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love, most servers have mitigation included

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these days

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OVH at least can handle the basic ones

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it's when someone is determined

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is where you gotta smart up

peak dirge
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Once upon a time, we used Google Cloud and they had DDoS protection in their premium tier. When our network moved to DigitalOcean, I warned the owner of our network to get DDoS protection. Shrugged it off. Then DigitalOcean nullrouted us.

fallen oracle
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DO be like that sometimes

peak dirge
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Can't say I wasn't predicting it.

golden gust
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pretty much all provides that I know of will null route you if an attack which exceeds so much hits you

quasi valley
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Hetzner once nullrouted all of our servers because of a dos Attack their protection couldn’t hold off aaaa_helpme

golden gust
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Used to have to deal with them pretty often but up'd the protection back when I was with RS

left yacht
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advance-2

golden gust
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ColoCrossing was who some company I was doing stuff for a good few years ago hosted their servers, they also did the same, but they actually exposed all that nicely so you could toy with it

shut thicket
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@meager perch Booters are cheap af, I could get a 20gbit booter for like $0.99

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It's dumb cheap

left yacht
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"booters" do less than 100mbps average

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because they are so oversold

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like 50 attacks on a single gigabit node

fallen oracle
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They are also for 14 year olds, and then people grow up.

shut thicket
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^

left yacht
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booters can barely hit off most internet connections now adays

shut thicket
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I literally haven't used one since I was 15 lmao

left yacht
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as the downlinks have gotten really fat recently

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at least in my area

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150Mbps -> 350Mbps down was 10 bucks more

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gigabit another 10 bucks

ember narwhal
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You give comcast too much credit

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Lmao

shut thicket
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A majority of US residential internet struggles to get 30Mbit

ember narwhal
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any booster can take down comcast

fallen oracle
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Ya I'm running gigabit

left yacht
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gigabit

ember narwhal
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Xfinity can suck my asscheeks

fallen oracle
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Got 5GB in house and 1GB out

quasi valley
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Where do you live glare?

left yacht
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1000/37

left yacht
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over here

fallen oracle
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Lower US

quasi valley
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Holy butts, Germany is slowly getting 50 down everywhere, if you’re very lucky 100/200

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Our providers have monopoles and just suck overall

golden gust
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Over here in the UK adsl v2 is still pretty much king

left yacht
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tux, digital ocean's abuse is fucking terrible

shut thicket
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If you're anywhere not near a large metropolitan city in the US your internet is gonna be around 10-50mbit

left yacht
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we got a layer7 flood from them

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for 48 hours straight

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they did nothing

fallen oracle
peak dirge
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A 75Gb/s attack with a UDP flood would be easy to pull off

left yacht
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LITERALLY nothing

golden gust
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Our monoply over here is on the lines

shut thicket
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The US it just way too wide of a country to have reliable internet everywhere.

left yacht
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so we have firewall rules to block all of digital ocean whenever someone floods us from there.

shut thicket
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Along with the nature of capitalism.

left yacht
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because I really can't be bothered

quasi valley
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jealousy rises

peak dirge
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good thing I have accounts at other providers then 😃

left yacht
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it's not to stop you tux smh

ember narwhal
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Oh you think that bad?

peak dirge
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ikik

ember narwhal
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Xfinity upload is trash

left yacht
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I'd rank digital ocean higher than vultr though

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because vultr's abuse team only works 9 to 5

golden gust
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Saying that, BT has to provide access to those lines to other ISPs because of some fair practice or whatever kinda stuff, just it's only really them who runs the phone lines, only other provides I know that actually run their own cable is virgin media and some ISPs which do FTTP, but those are more aimed at appartment blocks anyways

left yacht
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and someone abused that

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and attacked us in the morning

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they got suspended @ 9am

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but we were attacked all throughout the morning

golden gust
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Reckon somebody came into the office, shoved their cup down on the desk and looked up?

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"oh fuuuck"

stiff yarrow
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nice

quasi valley
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😂

stiff yarrow
left yacht
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"not this shit again"

ember narwhal
left yacht
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exact time was 9:02am

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checking my chat logs

golden gust
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lol

ember narwhal
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That my download and upload

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feelsbadman

pseudo island
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👀

peak dirge
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The one time I contacted Linode about abuse from their network, they actually took care of the problem quite quickly. That was in 2011 though.

quasi valley
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Probably his shift started at 9:00

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And then “OH NO”

left yacht
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Linode is a weird provider

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I can't find a valid reason to use them

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but I use them

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for my web server

golden gust
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"it works, why move it"?

fallen oracle
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I used to have a webserver for my photos but then I realized all I ever did was send it on discord and noticed I could just copy and paste it

peak dirge
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Most crap is currently on DigitalOcean, putting some all over the place for shits and giggles. Velocity website on EC2 next? thinking_gun

left yacht
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we use it alright

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you gotta know redfrosting/bandwidth/steven

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he isn't in this discord server

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if you really want on board, add me and I relay it to him.

peak dirge
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I have a distant connection to him, yeah

left yacht
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though I don't particularly know you.

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yeah it's private

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no reason to go public, it doesn't earn money anyway.

peak dirge
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RedisBungee might ring a bell

golden gust
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The best part about a browser which loves to disable auto play is websites which use videos in the background

fallen oracle
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What browser you using?

left yacht
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tcpshield's site was meant for a project.

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not for production

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but yeah

golden gust
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Currently testing Brave

fallen oracle
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Yeet

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Same

golden gust
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Kinda wanna go back to vivaldi but braves memory usage is nicer, so :/

fallen oracle
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I've been using it for a few months

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Ikr!

left yacht
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I use all of the memory

quasi valley
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oh boy

fallen oracle
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Brave has been amazing to me

peak dirge
fallen oracle
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I love it's built in blockers

left yacht
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I didn't really care about privacy because I've always grown up with constant surveillance. Hell for most of myl ife I had a police camera pointed right at my house.

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just uses whatever works

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if chrome disables ad blockers from working

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will use something else

golden gust
fallen oracle
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How did you watch adult content?

peak dirge
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It's a desktop!

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Now, my PC laptop's battery dies in like 3 hours, because it's shit

fallen oracle
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Cat what is that program?

fallen oracle
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My surface battery dies quickly

peak dirge
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Exert the slightest load and the fans start running

quasi valley
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skype

left yacht
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my youtube contacts

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still use skype

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for some reason

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I don't quite understand

peak dirge
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barf

quasi valley
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oh gosh

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ours gladly use at least discord haha

golden gust
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I for some reason have 5 browser windows open

left yacht
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I work best with the older generation of youtubers. the new kids are all types of weird

peak dirge
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then for fun, I have a computer algebra system open because I cannot into mathematics this week

golden gust
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and before I rebooted for an update last night, so many programs open I didn't even know how to start cleaning up 😄

fallen oracle
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What OS are you on cat

left yacht
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I use chrome for personal use, firefox for business

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works pretty well

golden gust
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macOS

fallen oracle
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Ahh

peak dirge
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Only Firefox, except I use Chrome for a few things that are massively broken on Firefox for no good reason

left yacht
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like google making firefox slower on youtube

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because they use some weird library

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that was phased out

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and thenthose weird sites

peak dirge
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I'M LOOKING AT YOU DIGITALOCEAN

left yacht
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oh?

peak dirge
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their support site does not work on Firefox

left yacht
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ah, I never went there.

quasi valley
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nitrado's (another server hoster) web interface just displays some good old black squares on firefox

fallen oracle
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No way, the University of Alabama blocked the bad domain they had from routing to their website.

left yacht
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I prefer the sites that just show white pages.

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complete white pages

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on firefox

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trying to find one

fallen oracle
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On Reddit like a year ago someone posted a video of a domain called https://ifuckedmysister.com leading to the University of Alabama website.

quasi valley
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oh sad

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saw that on reddit a while ago (also I cant read, just saw you mentioned reddit)

left yacht
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alabama, where your wildest dreams come true.

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even the illegal ones!

fallen oracle
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Yee haw

golden gust
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Future home of something quite cool.

fallen oracle
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ROLLTIDE

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skeeeet

left yacht
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only conservative state I've ever been in is Texas

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and Texas might as well be it's own country

peak dirge
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Texans would say the same about California

left yacht
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fox news everywhere

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literally not a single restaurant without fox news on.

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the word politics was not spoken during that entire vacation

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was still fun though

peak dirge
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try the small Georgia town I live in

left yacht
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if you ignore politics

peak dirge
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don't you dare say Bernie is bae in a Waffle House

fallen oracle
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How close are you to Atlanta, Tux?

left yacht
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people here have confederate flags out

limber knotBOT
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I am physically falling apart

left yacht
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granted I live in a completely white neighborhood

jagged lily
limber knotBOT
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wtf

left yacht
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not a single black person here.

stiff yarrow
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physically?

left yacht
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also you ok?

quasi valley
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American and patriotism/politics

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hell yeah

limber knotBOT
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my back just gave out

left yacht
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were you moving houses

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or fixing your sink

golden gust
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Yea, wel, if you're typin here it's clearly not happening ast enough!

limber knotBOT
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my legs feel like stacks of bricks

peak dirge
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I'm closer to the Alabama border than I am closer to Atlanta, but Atlanta isn't a horrible drive from my location

limber knotBOT
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and I decided to cut back on caffeine so I feel like I'm moving in slow motion

fallen oracle
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Ahh okay

peak dirge
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60-90 minutes or so

left yacht
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cutting out on caffeine was the best decision I did in my life.

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only took 3 months of suffering

fallen oracle
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Yup

left yacht
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and some of the worst cravings

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I've ever had

fallen oracle
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Dropping caffeine also helped me lose weight

limber knotBOT
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I was drinking absurd amounts of caffeine

wide hazel
left yacht
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dropped my blood pressure!

limber knotBOT
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to get me through my last semester of uni classes

peak dirge
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I don't think I can cut the caffeine habit.

left yacht
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went from high blood pressure to boderline

quasi valley
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I hate the taste of coffee, that's enough of a barrier to hold me off 👀

limber knotBOT
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I actually had low blood pressure while doing all that caffeine

left yacht
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oh nice

limber knotBOT
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which is not going to help me now that I'm cutting back

peak dirge
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But I could switch to unsweetened tea (aka blasphemy) to lower my sugar and caffeine intake

left yacht
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I prefer my coffee and teas bitter.

limber knotBOT
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yeah I'm literally drinking tea right now

left yacht
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bite me

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met a sweet tea drinker recently and that was disgusting

slim nymph
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@wide hazel you should read the article next time lol. Wasn't a vulnerability. Just a "some people have insecure settings"

quasi valley
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But I guess coffee is still a better waste than smoking or drinking when being bored dinnerthink

limber knotBOT
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man I feel so weak even just lifting my tea cup feels like lifting weights

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maybe I should just go back to bed

stiff yarrow
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sweet tea aPES_Shake

fallen oracle
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I used to do a lot of Mtn Dew but I dropped that

left yacht
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it takes 3 weeks before most of the symptoms go away btw

limber knotBOT
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well, it's been

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uh

left yacht
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12 hours?

peak dirge
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Cultural context. I'm in the deep South

limber knotBOT
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when was tuesday again

left yacht
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2 days ago

limber knotBOT
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fuck really

peak dirge
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Caffeine is a better vice than smoking or drinking, that's for sure.

wide hazel
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@slim nymph I read it after I sent it :P
First time I've seen a C(W?)E assigned to an intentional design choice. Will have to read more next time

left yacht
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tux, my step dad smokes, drinks, and has tons of coffee.

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it took him two years to recover from a surgery

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so there's that

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if you want to know how bad it is to do all three.

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might as well do meth or something

quasi valley
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  • all em drugs
void void
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lmao

quasi valley
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yeah

limber knotBOT
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pokedrugs, gotta do them all

void void
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calling vape nation

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im taking fat rips

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cant beat me

left yacht
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I'm glad I'm not apart of this new generation of kids

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with their juuls

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they'll be chain smokers in their 20s

limber knotBOT
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I don't think it will take more than two weeks to drop the habit though

void void
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doubtful they will switch from vape to cigs, no

quasi valley
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my brother is one

void void
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but they may chain their juul yes

limber knotBOT
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it usually takes me a couple of weeks

left yacht
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well ^-^, the worst is over after 3 days from my experience

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but it's just there in the background

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for 3 weeks

stiff yarrow
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what the heck is a juul

void void
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small vape kids buy lol

quasi valley
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smoking for little cucks

void void
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it's a shitty MTL (mouth to lung)

left yacht
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@void void tI'm assuming

limber knotBOT
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I should've dropped the caffeine later

quasi valley
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that think it's cool and "not as bad as smoking"

left yacht
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juuls will get banned

stiff yarrow
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are we really calling vapes mouth to lungs now

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sounds so technical

void void
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that is the specific type of vape

left yacht
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their nicotine levels are insane

limber knotBOT
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I always have a bit of physical downtime after exams even when I keep taking my caffeine

void void
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there is MTL and DL

left yacht
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I guess

limber knotBOT
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I'm just stacking shit

void void
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mouth to lung, or direct to lung

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second one you inhale heavily, first you smoke like a cig

left yacht
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^-^, you just reminded me of the airplanes movie.

quasi valley
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when I confronted my brother, he legit said "If I stopped I wouldnt have anything to do with ma friends"

left yacht
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"I choose a bad time to quit meth"

golden gust
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lol

left yacht
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just died of laughtor

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god I feel old.

golden gust
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reinflate the auto pilot

left yacht
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omfg

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soon electronic, there will be a generation of kids

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who never watched that movie.

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and it'll be so sad.

limber knotBOT
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hey if you're about to die you certainly shouldn't stop doing drugs

golden gust
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😦

limber knotBOT
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if anything you should do them even more

void void
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at least i don't smoke weed (that often :L) anymore

quasi valley
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to end your misery that is a life even faster!

void void
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shit conks me out

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I like it though

golden gust
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"I chose a bad ttime to quit sniffing glue"

limber knotBOT
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if the docs told me I have terminal cancer from all the coke zero I drank and I have a week to life I'd spend a week drinking coke zero

left yacht
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@meager perch if you want to spend 120 USD for the GAME-64-OC

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yes

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but the difference

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is pretty minor

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if I had terminal cancer I'd just become an alcoholic again.

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drink myself to death.

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and uh

limber knotBOT
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people need to stop scamming me with icloud emails

void void
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or just open a new credit card and go on a cruise till you die lol

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lots of people do that

left yacht
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I don't use the US site

limber knotBOT
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I stopped using iOS back in the iphone 4 era

void void
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can't pay back debt if you're dead

left yacht
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because they are usually out of stock

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vinthill isn't a good spot to be btw

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as your mitigation

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is all the way in BHS

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so you add

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11ms

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with perm mitigation

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yeah but have fun purchasing it

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I mean if you're ok with the latency

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and saving 20 bucks

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just know there's a valid reason

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it's 20 bucks cheaper

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no-one wants them

limber knotBOT
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I wonder, would it be feasible to put someone into an artificial coma to prevent withdrawal symptoms

left yacht
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it's not overclocked though

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you're losing 500mhz

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so gg

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and uh

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if there was

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I'd probably abuse it

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32GB vs 64GB all depends on your network

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and the E-2136 boosts higher than the 7700k.

austere ivy
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Hello peepoJuice

left yacht
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but a 7700k overclocked

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will have more single thread

austere ivy
left yacht
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hey brian!

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haven't talked to you recently

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I missed annoying you ;-;

austere ivy
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Hi Ryan, I’ve missed you too :(

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Tell you what though seems my two dogs have taken over for you.

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Currently having the allergies of my life and the Benadryl + Zyrtec I took isn’t working!

left yacht
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uh those usually make it worse for me

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so yeah

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I just hide indoors

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during pollen heavy days

austere ivy
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🤧 oh really?

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I’m just very allergic to dogs lol.

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But we have two so what can I do PES2_Shrug

left yacht
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if I were allergic to my dog I'd be dead

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he's always in my room

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spreading his fur onto everything

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and making sure he sneezes in my face 24/7

austere ivy
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Okay back to the misery of vacuuming the floor while sneezing from the spurring hair stuff everywhere ok it was nice talking to you

limber knotBOT
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you could not have dogs you know tehbrian

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if anything it'd be easier than having one

left yacht
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I'm personally a cat person

stiff yarrow
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can you say you miss brian if you aren't even a patron sub of him

left yacht
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until my cat decided to chew through my cables

stiff yarrow
left yacht
#

I mean if oyu were really crazy you could use a 9900k from RS

#

Hetzner has them but the latency usually isn't ideal for most minecraft servers

#

unless you have a european playerbase

livid echo
#

hey is the source of paper 1.8.8 not available?

golden gust
#

It's on the github repo

heavy rapids
#

does anyone know some great youtube channels to binge?

livid echo
#

thanks

golden gust
#

Depends what you're after

worn ember
#

slow mo guys their stuff is fun to watch

golden gust
#

AvE and big clive have great content, but if they;re in your area you've probably already sub'd 😄

heavy rapids
#

science / documentaries

golden gust
#

No idea if it's your thing or available for you, but there is this channel called Spark that seems to have decent tv shows

heavy rapids
#

I'll give it a shot

#

thanks to all of you

worn ember
#

minecraft modding tutorials on ph

strange bane
#

Have you guys heard of Baritone?

golden gust
#

Build succeeded

#

#ThatsTheMoneyShot

livid echo
#

is that the path finding thing?

golden gust
#

Name somewhat rings a bell

strange bane
#

Yeah, it's really good. o.o

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Baritone Showcase (with Impact 4.4) - length 4m 16s - 33 likes, 0 dislikes (100.0%) - 684 views - Adovin on 2018.10.20

golden gust
#

damn

strange bane
#

It's open source. 😄

heavy rapids
#

nice

limber knotBOT
#

[Xinayder] hey, I'd like to know about building papermc. when I run paper jar does it apply the patches to the server or not?

golden gust
#

paper jar will basically run the full process to build a jar

limber knotBOT
golden gust
#

Yes

limber knotBOT
#

[Xinayder] kk, thanks!

heavy rapids
#

They just don't proof-read shit

#

And that speaks volumes about their code

worn ember
#

haha

#

what the actual fuck Mojang

#

are you even trying at this point

heavy rapids
#

that's like the fourth time this happens in the last two months

spiral garden
#

i can't see the error

#

oh nvm

worn ember
#

you must work at Mojang

heavy rapids
#

once they even duplicated the whole list of fixes

lean zenith
vestal jasper
#

mfw people expect me not to sit here and spectate them for an hour after their first join

haughty wedge
vestal jasper
#

HMM new player joins a minute after someone gets punished

limber knotBOT
#

punish me daddy

void void
finite wave
#

Cool

#

Reeee

limber knotBOT
#

thanks for participating tset

finite wave
#

I don’r we quite get it all

limber knotBOT
#

Zoidberg ban tset

onyx bear
void void
#

what the fuck

ancient bolt
#

Discord needs a way to mass-delete messages

#

like a checkbox system

void void
#

i made a bot for that 🙄

#

!dmsg 50 -> last 50 messages vanish

ancient bolt
#

bots are dumb

void void
#

yet useful

ancient bolt
#

also not what I want

#

don't want to just nuke a load a messages

golden gust
#

Yea :/

#

Discord really lacks in terms of the basics of making stuff not tedious to deal with

strange bane
#

Even in YouTube live chat you can hold alt and click messages to delete them.

#

YouTube live chat also uses GET polling rather than a websocket, so, eh you can't win them all.

finite wave
#

🍆💦

#

That’s just an aubergine

#

Being dehydrated

golden gust
#

Yup

finite wave
#

Paper prolly did

ancient bolt
#

sometimes mojang taks our fix directly

#

sometimes they don't

#

sometimes they credit us

#

sometimes they don't

merry talon
#

YouTube live chat also uses GET polling rather than a websocket

#

u wat

strange bane
#

Every 3 seconds a request is made for the live chat messages.

golden gust
ancient bolt
#

also the 2019.2 UI update for intellij on windows is nice

golden gust
#

(Time to see how they break it in .4 😄 )

strange bane
#

What's new?

golden gust
#

Oh, they fixed that in pre1

strange bane
#

Oh, the borderless window @ancient bolt?

ancient bolt
#

yeah

#

like visual studio

#

jetbrains is really good about keeping intellij modern with native UI/UX things

#

like on macos with the dark toolbar for dark mode and touchbar support

strange bane
#

JetBrains really do know what they're doing with everything, it's super impressive.

ancient bolt
#

they use 2 space indents in their code though

strange bane
#

I approve of that, I do that with everything other than Java.

ancient bolt
#

wow

#

you're disgusting

strange bane
#

I prefer not to have a giant gap between lines. 😛

ancient bolt
#

use tabs + an auto formatter if you don't want 4 spaces

limber knotBOT
#

[Xinayder] is there a way to retrieve the supported minecraft version from the build files?

#

[Xinayder] I'm trying to setup an automatic build script

strange bane
#

Yeah, there's a maven pom file with it in.

ancient bolt
#

work/BuildData/info.json contains a "minecraftVersion" key, and yeah you can also check the pom

strange bane
#

Ah, I'd use info.json, easier to parse.

golden gust
#

huggles jq

ember narwhal
#

lmao

limber knotBOT
#

[Xinayder] thanks

ember narwhal
#

Also how did they even screw that up

#

LUL

strange bane
#

Now that I know people actually do that, I'm gonna start double spacing in Java I think. 😛

ember narwhal
#

Mac using 100-200% of CPU

strange bane
#

git is such amazing software. Where is the git git repository?

#

Oh, there's a mirror on GitHub.

#

What came first the git or the git repository? 😮 It's a shame the answer is more obvious than the chicken one. xD

finite wave
#

Anyone up for some group wrestling with jimmy?

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) wrestle with jimmy.mp3 - length 4m 22s - 11,069 likes, 171 dislikes (98.5%) - 336,158 views - SandyDoor073 on 2015.08.20

ember narwhal
#

Mojang is becoming Bethesda

#

Lmao

#

"Fans will fix it for us, it fine"

limber sapphire
valid trench
ancient bolt
#

Dumbasses opening PRs on a mirror https://github.com/git/git/pulls

pulsar wigeon
#

interesting

#

that seems new since last time i looked over there

ancient bolt
#

That's wacky

#

Seems like it would be easier to just submit patches the official way

limber knotBOT
#

boys I bought a new elite gamer chair

#

it's getting here in like a month

#

will you finally accept me as one of you

left yacht
#

all my gaming chair did was fix my posture

#

because of how uncomfortable it was

#

which is probably a perk

golden gust
#

Who even are you?

left yacht
#

some depressed fat fuck

#

who runs a large minecraft server but literally hates everything

golden gust
#

😄

empty glen
limber knotBOT
#

maybe your issue is your dependence on material goods, give me your minecraft server

dapper nacelle
#

Is there any simple way for me to see how much ram of the allocated ram of my server my plugin is using

left yacht
#

./paper heap

dapper nacelle
#
long beforeUsedMem = Runtime.getRuntime().totalMemory() - Runtime.getRuntime().freeMemory();
long afterUsedMem = Runtime.getRuntime().totalMemory() - Runtime.getRuntime().freeMemory();
long actualMemUsed = afterUsedMem - beforeUsedMem;
sender.sendMessage(Main.PREFIX + "Memory used: " + actualMemUsed);
#

this didn't work unfortunately

#

wait

#

that works?

left yacht
#

and jprofiler trial

dapper nacelle
#

brb

left yacht
#

I love jprofiler, I really do

#

haven't tried yourkit yet

#

or whatever it offers

dapper nacelle
#

heap-dump-2019-07-04_21.37.47.hprof

golden gust
#

You need to take a look at a heap dump, there isn't really a way to track memory in heap (There are tools which try, but you're only getting a partial picture generally)

dapper nacelle
#

where do I open the thing with?

left yacht
#

JVisualVM (this is really bad for heaps), jprofiler

#

electronic cat probably has better recommendations

dapper nacelle
#

I'll download jprofiler

left yacht
#

jprofiler is a paid software, but it has a trial.

#

use that trial wisely.

golden gust
#

eclipse also have a memory analyser tool, I generally use yourkit but that's paid, and prooobably doesn't offer much over other software too

dapper nacelle
#

I use IntelliJ

#

IntelliJ masterrace

golden gust
#

(MAT is a seperate tool)

dapper nacelle
#

eclipse 🤢

#

do you guys from paper use the open jdk?

left yacht
#

I had a smudge on my monitor

#

so that tool looked like too!

#

and I use the open jdk

#

it performs identically to oracle

#

from my experience

dapper nacelle
#

I filled in some random info for the login

#

it worked

left yacht
#

open jdk is the reference implementation afaik

golden gust
#

Using builds from adoptopenjdk

left yacht
#

apt-get install default-jdk

#

which is the openjdk, no idea where it's sourced from

#

I should REALLY check that

golden gust
#

It'll probably just be some openjdk build

left yacht
#

I'm a controlfreak so I like knowing where everything is being sourced from.

#

because I'm weird

dapper nacelle
#

my plugin only used 5000 bytes

#

decent I guess

void void
#

VisualVM has a garbage collector plugin that shows you everything just so you know Titanic

dapper nacelle
#

5kb

#

I have 999995kb left till it takes up 1GB

#

I'll be fine

left yacht
#

yes agent

#

but it scales terrribly

#

to large heaps

#

I deal with 10+GB heaps

#

24/7

void void
#

Ah is that what you’re saying?

left yacht
#

JVisualVM doesn't like large heaps

#

for small heaps it's ok

#

and I prefer it over jprofiler for them

#

but jprofiler is amazing at handling big ones

dapper nacelle
#

jprofiler is paid

left yacht
#

yes

void void
#

Fair enough

dapper nacelle
#

maybe I can get a student version

left yacht
#

on more then one occasion I've reinstalled windows

#

on a spare computer

#

to use jprofiler

#

again

void void
#

I do like JProfiler’s call graphs tho

#

Much better than anything that VisualVM offers

#

Never used YourKit but it seems like I should be jumping on the bandwagon too?

golden gust
#

Give it a try, I guess 🤷

void void
#

Do they have OSS licenses?

golden gust
#

yup

void void
#

Ok open source time

golden gust
#

I had one for a crappy fork of GM I started \o/

void void
#

LOL

#

I still have my jetbrains license from a dead project

golden gust
#

(And on that note, GM is a burning mess, do not go near that for maintenance thinking that you'll be able to clean it up without just nuking large portions of it)

void void
#

I linked them the Wikipedia page for “public domain” for the license field

#

They still gave me the license key...

austere ivy
#

Hello! peepoJuice

void void
#

Is there an emoji for BlueJ?

#

Or JDeveloper at least...

austere ivy
#

Sure.

#

🔵 🇯

dapper nacelle
#
 if (block != null && block.getType() != Material.AIR) {
     Location location = block.getLocation().toCenterLocation();
     BlockState oldState = block.getState();
     if (oldState instanceof Container) {
         if (oldState instanceof Chest) {
             ((Chest) oldState).getBlockInventory().clear();
         } else {
             ((Container) oldState).getInventory().clear();
         }
     }
     block.setType(material);
     block.setMetadata(tagUnbreakable, Common.METADATA_VALUE_TRUE);
     block.getState().update();
#

does the block.getState().update(); also update blocks next to the block?

austere ivy
#

I would think not but I have literally no idea.

#

So don't take my word for it at all. Wait for someone else haha.

void void
#

No, but I think there might have been an apply physics arg somewhere in the update method that could affect other blocks in some way

#

Answer is “it could”

dapper nacelle
#

block.setType(material, false);

#

this was the one

#

hm.. I need to only update the blocks around the block if they are a chest

void void
limber knotBOT
#

doesn't respect time zone

void void
#

should use local time

#

is it not doing that for you?

limber knotBOT
#

Idk, it feels wrong

void void
#

interesting

#

yea looks wrong but idk why? lmao

limber knotBOT
#

.wa time cologne

#

.wa cest to utc

#

Wat

void void
#

8:21 wouldnt be 1 sleep cycle either

limber knotBOT
#

Idk the offset

void void
#

wat fak timezone is it using lmao

#

hm

golden gust
#

can you clock?

limber knotBOT
#

My browser is set to English ua

#

Us

#

Does that play a role?

void void
#

If it changes your browser timezone probably

#

I can add a tz selector pretty easy I suppose

#

k

limber knotBOT
#

I never has time zone issues before so I blame you not my browser 😂

void void
golden gust
#

You're not using localtime or something are you and blowing over the calcs somewhere?

limber knotBOT
#

22:10

#

It detects my city

void void
#

Yeah my thing might be fucked then I'll check

dapper nacelle
#

I am trying to prevent a redstone block that I place with my plugin to power redstone

#

I use setType(Material.REDSTONE_BLOCK, false)

#

this doesn't update pistons

void void
#

wait @golden gust wat, I am using local time? What's the issue with that? I'm hella rarted :(

dapper nacelle
#

but it does power repeaters

#

wait what

#

repeaters get powerd by it but redstone dust doesn't

#

wtf

#

oh and now repeaters suddenly don't get powered

golden gust
#

How do you think that's going to relate to what the end user sees?

void void
#

use local time of browser
calculate on it
done?

dapper nacelle
#

actually, if I replace a repeater that is pointing into another repeater with the redstone block this way it does get powered

golden gust
#

Wait, are you don't cals on the client or the server?

#

doing the*

#

(idek how that happened, I think a few cells shorted)

void void
#

oh good point

#

it is server rendered

#

u right

#

thanks bby

dapper nacelle
#

odd behaviour

#

if I place it without physical updates the trail of repeaters still get powered

austere ivy
#

What is the technical thing preventing Windows programs not working on Macs or Linuxs?

#

Is it just the OS API? OpenGL vs DirectX?

golden gust
#

different binary formats, different APIs

dapper nacelle
#

Is there any way to only cause physical updates on a certain side of a block?

void void
#

i cant find anywhere but how to kill only mobs with clearlagg?

#

not animals

pulsar wigeon
#

/butcher

finite wave
#

Lol

#

Clearlagg

void void
#

i have 4800entities on the srw

golden gust
#

mobs should be limited with the spawn limit configuration files

void void
#

they are not

#

i set them to spawn x3 more

#

cuz the server had 5-6 players

#

but now it hwas 17

golden gust
#

Yea, you should reduce the values

void void
#

@pulsar wigeon will kill only mobs not animals like cows all that? /butcher

finite wave
#

It’s not like clearibg it will fix the issue

golden gust
#

Clearlag is a bandaid and does not really fix the issue whatsoever

pulsar wigeon
#

don't fucking ping me

#

i wouldn't have suggested it otherwise

#

jesus

finite wave
#

Hehe

golden gust
#

(You're still going to have those mobs in the world between its butcher cycles)

finite wave
#

Wiz got pinged

dapper nacelle
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) I Made a Walking Town in Minecraft - length 16m 59s - 17,564 likes, 115 dislikes (99.3%) - 158,895 views - Mumbo Jumbo on 2019.07.04

dapper nacelle
#

Lol

#

Walking town

woven otter
#

potato potato, where's my potato

void void
#

Yo guys whats the best anti cheat plugin that’s compatible with 1.14.3?

torn terrace
limber knotBOT
#

Hi, thanks for updating Anti-Xray! Sorry I had many exams in the last weeks and I had to work for my bachelor thesis. Just wanted to mention, that either spottedleaf or the whole paper team deserves the funded money more than I anyway for your great work in general.

cosmic raft
#

wheee

#

air conditioner replaced today

teal nova
robust blade
unreal quarry
#

golems spawn when villagers get scared

#

for that many to be there, your villagers are frightened to death

cosmic raft
void void
#

does antixray exist on paper?

#

if yes then where

golden gust
#

It's currently in testing

#

~paper-2240

void void
limber knotBOT
#

[Xinayder] is there a pkgbuild already for arch?

void void
#

umm?

high breach
ashen cliff
#

20Tps all the way.

tropic flame
#

@ashen cliff what are your secrets, master

shut thicket
#

^

ashen cliff
#

Aruba Cloud 1€ VPS.
Hosting MariaDB+TS3.

#

Everything on normal settings except View Distance set to 8, and fast redstone enabled.

tropic flame
#

Hmm

ashen cliff
tropic flame
#

Well I mean I think I haven't tested 1.14.3, maybe that's why

#

1.14.2 was unusable

ashen cliff
#

That reminds me... I didn't disable Timings yet.

#

Yey more performance.

void void
#

@ashen cliff how do u do that

tropic flame
#

I thought timings' impact was negligible

#

... Well, I guess with those low specs it stops being negligible

ashen cliff
#

Well even 1% on a single core...

#

Load dropped by 3% after disabling timings btw.
Snooper is still enabled tho.

upper flicker
#

mojangs snooper isn't even used anymore afaik

#

They got rid of it when GPDR landed

pulsar wigeon
#

huh, really

#

aren't the settings and everyhting there still?

#

did they just turn off reporting

upper flicker
#

Safer to delete it then pretend to understand how to anonymize it probably

#

Idk I'd have to look

#

They certainly aren't removed if they were in an old config

#

But nothing is

pulsar wigeon
#

o yea maybe

#

can't find it now anyway

#

wait i found it

ashen cliff
#

Still there, off by default now.

#

Interesting.

upper flicker
#

Be interesting to see if it reports anywhere

pulsar wigeon
#

yea code is all here still

upper flicker
#

I seem to recall someone telling me it was gone

#

They were talking about the client though, I just assumed it was a shared system

pulsar wigeon
#

oic

#

it's MojangStatisticsGenerator in md5 mappings

#

Snooper elsewhere

void void
#

question....

why when someone RTP to a far place, TP to another world. The tps suddenly drops but not that much? whats the reason? happening on my server atm

upper flicker
#

Server has to load a ton of chunks and the main thread does block while it does that

wide hazel
#

1.14?

#

I assume you wouldn't be asking if it wasn't an issue

void void
#

i followed all the settings and the spigot,paper optimization guide and I thought it will minimize heavily but not that much.

#

1.14

#

1.14.3

wide hazel
#

Yeah, welcome to 1.14

void void
#

i think its normal though

#

chunk loading ...

wide hazel
#

Optimizations or no, it's still gonna suck

#

Just sucks less

#

Try pre-generating the world

void void
#

done

#

with world border

#

😃

wide hazel
#

SSD?

void void
#

yes

#

NVME

wide hazel
#

One server, or more?

void void
#

dedi

wide hazel
#

Yeah, just 1.14 at that point then

#

Sorry

ashen cliff
#

The teleport will lag the server to hell, no matter the hardware, if your view distance is too high.
You can limit the initial view distance after a teleport.

void void
#

how?

#

to limit a distance after a teleport?

#

I already set a static distance to 4

#

i mean 6

ashen cliff
#

I assume BestViewDistance still works?

void void
#

what's that?

upper flicker
#

Per-Player view distance isn't in on 1.14.x yet

ashen cliff
#

Uf.

upper flicker
#

Mojang completely rewrote the system, chunks are managed much more tightly

ashen cliff
#

RIP. Also makes mob vanish if the view distance is under 4. Sometimes.

void void
#

oh I plugin

#

i will try this

#

What’s the minimal playable view distance lol

ashen cliff
#

I wouldn't go under 5.

void void
#

So 5?

ashen cliff
#

Yes.

void void
#

Thanks

#

Gotta try

worn ember
vestal jasper
#

why

void void
#

@worn ember ur not in california rite

worn ember
#

@void void not even close

void void
#

view-distance isn't on paper.yml or spigot.yml or bukkit.yml neither. I remember it was on spigot .yml before

#

or it has changed name? lol

golden gust
#

it's in server.properties

void void
#

yea

limber knotBOT
void void
#

plugin list pls

vestal jasper
#

at net.minecraft.server.v1_13_R2

#

looks like 1.13.2 to me

void void
#

If you upgraded and your worlds converted, and you tried to downgrade, you can't do that.

#

It's going to crash trying to read the world.

#

Should have taken a backup

sinful iron
#

Hey does anyone have any experience configuring codacy

upper flicker
#

I need to add that instacrash thing I put in 1.12 to 1.13

sinful iron
#

My code is getting flagged for unused variables because I use Lombok and codacy uses PMD 6.14 - lombok detection was added in 6.16

void void
#

any1 good at reading timings?

austere ivy
#

Hello peepoJuice

upper flicker
#

Hi brian

fallen oracle
#

How was the war?

austere ivy
#

It's going okay.

vestal jasper
#

brian the war veteran

austere ivy
#

Quick thing I was thinking about, sometimes if statements fail and kinda get "skipped over" by the JVM if it's going too fast.

#
public static void main(String[] args) {
        boolean foo = true;
        
        boolean done = false;
        if (foo) {
            doThing();
            done = true;
        }
        if (foo && !done) {
            doThing();
        }
    }
#

I came up with this little idea, but I decided it would be better if it was something like lombok..

#

Introducing, No Faulty Statements

#

It's my new project where instead of doing that, you can do this:

#
public static void main(String[] args) {
        boolean foo = true;
        
        @NoFault
        if (foo) {
            doThing();
        }
    }
#

Currently though, I'm in a dire need of money so if anyone would like to invest, this is the time to now. This is the new blockchain, trust me on this.

#

I'll be developing this idea further and see where it goes but just wanted to give you a quick update on my progress.

worn ember
#

No.

fallen oracle
#

I'd prefer you go back into the war.

worn ember
#

Id prefer you stop breathing

limber knotBOT
#

please help

worn ember
#

Uh

#

That's not even 1.14

limber knotBOT
#

what is it then?

vestal jasper
#

at net.minecraft.server.v1_13_R2

#

it says 1_13_R2 like 50 times in the paste

austere ivy
#

hmm

#

you sure it's 1.13

worn ember
#

What he said

austere ivy
#

might be 1.14 you never know /s

worn ember
#

U dum dum

vestal jasper
#

There are 0 instances of "1_14" in there and 282 instances of "1_13" so I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's 1.13.x

limber knotBOT
#

I tried to upgrade to 1.14 then failed and rolled back to 1.13. nOW i've got these errors

vestal jasper
#

Are you ok? You questioned us saying it's 1.13 and now you're saying you knew it was 1.13.

worn ember
#

Well now ur done for

#

Your world will collapse into a blackhole

#

And everyone will die

limber knotBOT
#

what doe these errors mean?

vestal jasper
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They mean you should've kept backups instead of reverting your jar to 1.13 and praying it'd work

limber knotBOT
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"Couldn't load protochunk"

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what does that mean?

vestal jasper
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Read what I said

worn ember
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Do you have FAWE?

limber knotBOT
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I restored a backup but the errors continue in a loop

worn ember
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Well did you update/downgrade your plugins when switching back?

limber knotBOT
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yes

upper flicker
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Those are world related errors

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Tells me your backup isn't old enough

worn ember
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Ur old

vestal jasper
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rekt

void void
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I could have sworn before I walked away 15 minutes ago to clean the grill, I said you can't upgrade/downgrade

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Still going?

worn ember
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Yes

void void
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Awesome.

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Just killed so many spiders in that grill. Hasn't been used in a long time

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Oi, was nasty.

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They got torched though.

austere ivy
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..

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:(

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poor spiders.

worn ember
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Burn them alive

austere ivy
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I like spiders.

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Super afraid of them but they're nice and they eat mosquitos.

void void
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I did. They tried to run, then they popped.

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Like loud pop

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Was gud

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Then I picked them up and put them in the dust pile

austere ivy
worn ember
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I like spiders if they leave me alone

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Else they're destined to die

fallen oracle
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I did the same thing except to mice

void void
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When they're in my grill threatening my 4th of July bbq

worn ember
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Nani

void void
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they die

austere ivy
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Glare do you have any suggestions for the war?

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No? Ok, update Java.