why m8
#general
glass vapor
golden gust
I just like fire :3
glass vapor
I mean why the rush to update
tropic flame
electronicfire
glass vapor
anyone else get a boom of players this past month?
we're at 30/30 most of the time and the tps is like ~14 guess that's good for 1.14.3?
silk stump
glass vapor
I mean MC is gaining popularity lately
ocean ether
regaining*
glass vapor
Just switched from 6 ram to 8 and the difference is minimal
We just need a better optimized game
Wonder why Mojang vaguely put "Optimized Performance" on 1.14.4 pre 1 and not say what was specifically changed
golden gust
the amount you allocate is generally irrelevant to perfornance
viscid aurora
golden gust
It only really becomes relevant when your issues are actually memory related
glass vapor
Shockbyte only offers one cpu
viscid aurora
MOJANG Fix this in 1.14.4 pre
glass vapor
I mean their programs just have different amounts of ram but the same CPU
Intel Xeon E5-1650v4
How do I check? Timings?
yeah one sec
"only 30"
lmao looks like XP orbs are causing lag
:/
glass vapor
No? Then what is
lmao XP's never been an issue before
Fingers crossed for 1.14.4 I guess
I mean how do I optimize xp?
And chunk loading and saving especially
The view distance is already 5
elfin oar
glass vapor
Can I locate those
Wait but doesn't XP, like, merge into singular big XP orbs since Spigot?
peak vector
I just switched my server over to OpenJ9 and it seems to have helped memory and performance quite a bit
Does anyone else use it (and noticed any problems)?
elfin oar
Are plugins compatible with the update to java?
peak vector
OpenJ9 != Java 9
It's a replacement VM to HotSpot (default in OpenJDK and Oracle JDK)
I'm using OpenJ9 with JDK 8
peak dirge
@peak vector No issues here, although there was a HolographicDisplays lag problem I had to patch out. The newest versions have it fixed though.
In fact, I wrote https://steinborn.me/posts/tuning-minecraft-openj9/
Java 8 and 11 are LTS
That's long-term support
peak vector
Ooo I'll take a look at that @peak dirge
acoustic basin
how do i remove java 8 and update to java 13
i used to have openjdk 12 but it got currupted so we just got 8
on 12 it was far better
peak dirge
Basically, #1 thing is to set the nursery correctly because Minecraft loves allocating lots of objects
peak vector
Ah
peak dirge
So my page has instructions on tuning gencon (the default collector) to play nice with MC
Under optimal conditions, GC pauses are only 1-10ms in length
acoustic basin
Tux can u link ur page
peak dirge
I guess this now the official OpenJ9 flag set, thanks @golden gust
golden gust
Been meaning to save a copy of that somewhere, that'll work just as well ๐
acoustic basin
guys i want to update to java 9 but i dont know how to remove java 8
golden gust
Don't update to java 9
peak dirge
Java 9 is out of support and OpenJ9 is not Java 9
golden gust
If you're going to update go to 11
golden gust
apt remove <package>
acoustic basin
thanks
viktor@mchost:~$ sudo apt remove java8 [sudo] password for viktor: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package java8
ohno
is it orical java 8
peak dirge
I believe you're looking for openjdk-8-jre-headless or similar
acoustic basin
OH yes
thats it
tha ks
i forgot openjdk
autoremove is better right? im a noob at linux sorry if i sound dumb
peak dirge
If you're on a recent Debian/Ubuntu version then openjdk-11-jre-headless will get you squared away, if not there is Zulu or AdoptOpenJDK builds.
acoustic basin
great ! i am
golden gust
And yea, read over those flags a bit, not really gotten to test them but seems to be an article I mean to refer to often, and the science seems sound ๐คท
acoustic basin
ok great im updated
hope tps is improved
i just learned i was useing 32 bit this entire time
-d64
5g
:O ok
it auto goes to 64?
oh ok
golden gust
Limit is just over a gig for the heap on 32bit, apps can only address 2GB
peak dirge
I have live production servers to point to, mostly. Network owner is real twitchy about putting YourKit onto the MC servers, but for some reason lets me put it on Velocity, even though if Velocity shuts down the whole network goes down with it. ๐คท
golden gust
tbh, killing a servers TPS is pretty easy with yourkit ๐
peak dirge
You can kill our TPS easily, we're on DigitalOcean ๐
golden gust
rip
peak dirge
I configured YourKit so it wouldn't be a foot-gun. I disabled all the really nasty lag-causing stuff.
pseudo island
Digitalocean is not great for MC? ๐ค
finite wave
A measure of speed
finite wave
And direction*
pseudo island
Velocity is a bungeecord alternative that lacks all but a few plugins
Use bungeeguard
With waterfall
peak dirge
Don't have any dependency on legacy BungeeCord? Try Velocity
pseudo island
^
woven otter
but waterfall
peak dirge
@pseudo island I may actually consider integrating BungeeGuard support into Velocity 1.1.0
It's faster, uses less memory (and usually less CPU). Some bugs and less-than-ideal stuff since it's still very new (only 1 year old)
golden gust
General gist is that waterfall is pretty limited by the fact that it has to maintain compat with bungee
For example, a major fun one is the teams API, stuff that was changed to json components in 1.13 will provide raw json to any plugin trying to get what was sent
peak dirge
Velocity doesn't even keep track of the scoreboard! (That might change.)
golden gust
(I broke a few plugins when I "fixed" the behavior to be more inline with existing behavior because plugins started to parse the json response instead, meaning that we couldn't retain support for older and newer plugins if we wanted to remain compatible with bungee)
void void
anyone know anti xray 1.14.3?
peak dirge
Use BungeeCord if you want plugins from 2013 to work flawlessly. Use Velocity if you want new features and better performance and can accept the fact it doesn't have a lot of plugins yet.
golden gust
#paper-help we just talked about it in there
peak dirge
golden gust
Please read the thread
golden gust
Scroll down
peak dirge
Hell, I should put RedisBungee 0.1 on a modern BungeeCord instance and laugh if it still works. That was basically my first BungeeCord plugin and the code looks like crap.
peak dirge
I'm repaying my debt by making Velocity.
golden gust
It shouldn't cause much overhead
silk stump
1.14.4 pre 1 is laggy as previous versions ๐ damn
peak dirge
I mean, 1.14.3 is already out...
void void
lol
silk stump
Try not to be lost in mojang (pre)realises every 1-2 weeks
gl
they realised 1.14.4 pre 1
3hours ago
fixed
void void
anyone tried this https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/anti-xray.68465/?
and is it better
silk stump
haha i think they support only win 10 edition
they dont want to fix it fixing only less revelant bugs... strange
peak dirge
The only features in that x-ray are that it's slower (being based on Skript lol) and has a GUI (completely pointless)
cedar spade
"We will be releasing 1.14.5 to address more bugs from 1.14"
peak dirge
yes
cedar spade
Wait for Paper's
cedar spade
@spare venture no
peak dirge
You could, oh, I don't know, use the test Paper build from the link we already told you about
void void
it will make lag?
peak dirge
Try it
peak dirge
You just replace your existing Paper JAR with the test build. That's it!
void void
paper.jar?
so how wil it work with the updates that are coming everyday on 1.14.3 frm paper
peak dirge
@cedar spade I bet that 1.15 just needs to be the "fix all the shit" release
elfin oar
It would be amazing if they took the time to make 1.15 solely a performance fixing release
golden gust
that build will be updated periodically, if people test it and give us feedback we can look into merging it sooner
peak dirge
Yep. And we're still going to run 1.12.2 for now.
cedar spade
I think 1.15 will be lots of cool new content bundled with further heaps of technical changes that aren't fully finished
golden gust
Also, I really doubt that a skript is capable of providing protection against proper xrayers, and skript in general will likely hurt your performance more than the xray patch could
peak dirge
E V E N M O R E B R O K E N F U N C T I O N A L P R O G R A M M I N G
cedar spade
where's that open source rendering engine at
golden gust
Needs more CompletableFuture
cedar spade
.join is where all the cool kids hang out
limber knotBOT
I've just managed to isolate an issue to existing on Paper, but not in spigot. It's for 1.12.2, though. Unsure if it is a problem in 1.13/1.14. Would the issue still receive attention for 1.12.2?
peak dirge
CompletableFuture<Map<Meme, Optional<CompletableFuture<Optional<Optional<List<BiFunction<Meme, Bullshit, Wtf>>>>>
golden gust
100% depends on the nature of the issue
limber knotBOT
A Fireball summoned will have all of its location/direction/velocity values turned to NaN after a few ticks of existing
So it gets rlocated to 0,0,0
*relocated
golden gust
summoned how?
You could create an issue on the tracker, bonus points if you check if it's applicable to 1.13/1.14
limber knotBOT
World.spawn(location,Fireball.class, function);
glass vapor
what can those points be redeemed for?
limber knotBOT
I think the issue has existed across several mc versions before 1.12, it took me a while to figure out what was going on
I'll put together a nice issue now
peak dirge
Those points can only be redeemed if you eat lots of tacos.
You will redeem our gratitude.
upper flicker
Hi brian
fossil pawn
limber knotBOT
I tried making a separate test plugin which just spawns the fireball on server load, and that works fine in Paper.
Normally have about 20 TPS. Just looked at my server today and wow...crazy bad. What is causing this?
updated last night btw
shell shadow
fallen oracle
Ooo
quiet lava
fallen oracle
So what's up with this new trend of people kicking the caps off bottles?
brazen barn
Beats me. Everyone should go back to #trashtag
fallen oracle
Ikr
limber knotBOT
HOw do you know if you are seeing "old generation lag spikes"? Was told I had them but not sure how they were identified.
This did indeed help -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=70. Down from 80
heady sail
quick dirge
unreal quarry
i hate credit card readers that want to hold onto your card. i hate them even more when your gas station "upgrades" to them without telling you so you end up breaking the reader before figuring it out and having to move to another pump ๐
yes
my gas station just upgraded to those
and i broke one of their readers trying to insert and remove my card quickly (the "normal" way I'm accustomed to)
thought my card had a crack or something and was getting jammed, so i wiggled it and pulled hard
lol
heavy rapids
rip
unreal quarry
luckily it was after hours and they were closed, so i just moved to another pump, filled up, and went on my merry way
yes
limber knotBOT
wtf, are the chips in US cards not cryptographic at all?
Like, me entering the correct pin is what causes my card to "unlock"
if you get gas anywhere but costco youre a cuck
wow, TIL
limber knotBOT
what's the pin for then? ATMs?
Also, do you have contactless there yet? :P
I keep forgetting the US payment industry is about 10 years behind the UK/EU
No, like on your card
golden gust
contactless is nice, but also such a o.O
unreal quarry
idk what all these new techs are with the cards. i try not to follow them. i just want to pay for stuff when i want lol
golden gust
One bank I was with actually limited how much the card could be used for contactless payments before you had to actually use chip and pin
unreal quarry
i know one convenience store i use wont accept my card by swiping. it makes me use the chip
i'm like, wtf is the difference? i still have to put my pin regardless..
limber knotBOT
I heard some places still let you swipe and sign for things
unreal quarry
thats for credit. i use debit for everything. no signing, only pin
merry talon
You don't have to use a PIN when using chip? wat
unreal quarry
i do
limber knotBOT
I am so confused
merry talon
I meant barty
limber knotBOT
It's like they're deliberately trying to make it as shit as possible
merry talon
The difference is that the chip is more secure
unreal quarry
i stopped using credit with my debit card because a lot of places will round up and put a hold on funds until it does through the system. then it puts the difference back into the account
limber knotBOT
I can't swipe any of my cards
unreal quarry
like, filling up my motorcycle with $7 of gas puts a $150 hold on my account
limber knotBOT
Wow that's dumb
merry talon
I've never tried to swipe, I dont think most places would let me
In fact I haven't even inserted in months
limber knotBOT
tbh I use my phone/watch for most things
Some places still have the stupid ยฃ30 limit even for Apple/Google pay :(
merry talon
I always look like an idiot trying to use google pay
I dont think its seamless enough yet
unreal quarry
honestly, i dont like all these new techs like the rfid thing. whats to stop someone with an rfid scanner from walking through a crowd sniffing out stuff? nothing.
^_^
merry talon
And some people dont understand that it works the same as normal contactless so they say something
What stops them is the tokenized payments
They cant do anything by reading your cards tag
merry talon
They could, however, scan your magstripe if they're close enough lol
That's why we're getting rid of that
shut thicket
@merry talon any and all credit charges using the mag strip can be chargebacked at the bank level
No questions asked.
Even if you did it ๐
unreal quarry
has anyone else come across the card reader that physically holds onto your card, though? i thought that was weird
merry talon
Every one here does if you want to use chip and PIN
shut thicket
I've seen that mostly in atms
shut thicket
They don't release the card until the money is removed.
To make sure you get your money.
merry talon
With ATMs you cant even see your card anymore yeah
unreal quarry
i've seen the atms that pull your card into them wher eyou cant touch it anymore. but this one i still had it in my finger grips but it still was able to grab my card and hold it
shut thicket
Certain atms*
I work on atms for the company I work for sometimes.
We have three different types of card holders
One that sucks your card in, one that you can hold it but it's stuck, and one that you're told to remove it
unreal quarry
i just wiggled and pulled, thinking my card was cracked and hung
shut thicket
๐
austere ivy
You folks have some strange birthday card uses.
crisp dove
yo ive been in this discord for a while but havent said much, just wanted to say at first i was skeptical but this is a solid.......what would you call it.....spigot fork? idk im dumb
austere ivy
We prefer to call it a Spirk ([spi]got fo[rk], as opposed to a [spo]on fo[rk])
austere ivy
Or if you separate it differently, a Spork ([sp]igot f[ork], as opposed to a [sp]oon f[ork])
(but yes just a spigot fork)
little ingot
upper flicker
the first prerelease is, nothing paper cares about
Have to see how fast they move this time
merry talon
dont mind brian he's baiting
upper flicker
Where's my papergradle you fuck
:3
Or papermcp or whatever we were calling it
Fuck I can't even joke about it because I forgot the name
unreal quarry
paperweight
austere fog
This is just a general java question but if I use two .filter() back to back it will work as I intend right?
List<Player> chatters = new ArrayList<>();
chatManager.getChatterList().stream()
.filter(RunicChatter::isOnline)
.filter(c ->
event.getPlayer().getLocation().distance(Bukkit.getPlayer(c.getId()).getLocation()) <= settingsManager.getProperty(ChannelSettings.LOCAL_RANGE)
)
.forEach(c -> chatters.add(Bukkit.getPlayer(c.getId())));
chatManager.sendMessageToGroup(chatters, message, runicChatter.isColorChat());
pulsar wigeon
.filter(a).filter(b) is the same as .filter(a && b) if that's what you mean
whether or not that code is worth anything i will not comment on
austere fog
Yeah I was mainly questioning whether it was the same
unreal quarry
isnt the better to && it in 1 filter? thought i read that somewhere that more filters = more load or something
shut thicket
Yeah it's slightly more computations to search for it one at a time compared to both at the same time
I think
austere fog
oh so I should swap it to &&?
unreal quarry
yeah, i think each filter has to fully iterate before the next one iterates, etc
pulsar wigeon
technically, a for loop is better if you care about efficiency
the example code is already extremely inefficient already though
so i wouldn't worry about using an extra filter
unreal quarry
^_^ wiz, keeping it real, as always โค
pulsar wigeon
nah, that was being nice
shut thicket
Hey I could make a mockery of a network lol
I'm an aspiring network engineer by trade
pulsar wigeon
that code is pretty shit tbh
austere fog
I mean I would like the non-nice version, I'm still learning Java 8 and the use case of streams
pulsar wigeon
like, you're triple iterating over your chatter list
why are you storing offline chatters in your chatter list
why are you using foreach and add instead of a collector
why dont you just pass the stream to the send method
why are you calculating distance instead of using distsquared
why are you getting players by id
austere fog
Well the main reason it stores offline chatters is because it loads their settings into bungee, and without losing them on player leave/join its saved and dropped after x time offline (its a fix for the sharding on my server)
- Collector > no reason, i guess its better than a forEach (my apologies)
- Stream > I'm not very comfortable with streams so I don't know every thing that can happen (so to be honest never even thought about this)
- DistSq > I totally forgot this was a thing
- Player by Id > Again because I'm storing offline it has to be an online player to grab their location (as far as I'm aware)
Thanks for the thing to think about
pulsar wigeon
the issue with your use of streams performance-wise is that you are iterating all your chatters, storing them in a list, and then passing that list to a method that's going to iterate over them all again anyway
austere fog
ah
pulsar wigeon
the point of streams is iterate once
chatters.stream().filter(...).forEach(sendMessage)
it's like
list = new list
for (x in y)
ls.add(x)
for (x in ls)
x.sendmessage
oh
pulsar wigeon
also, can you ever chat to an offline player?
if not, why don't you just iterate Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers()
Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers().stream().filter(p -> p.loc.distsq(sender.loc) < config.local_distsq).forEach(p::sendMessage)
austere fog
because they may not have the chat channel local enabled
List<RunicChatter> localChatters = chatters.stream().filter(c -> c.getActiveChannels().contains(ChatChannel.LOCAL)).collect(Collectors.toList());
i don't see a check for that in your code either
pulsar wigeon
so, you're doing yet a 4th iteration .-.
austere fog
it was all in a switch
Well no I'm trying a different route with it
that was just something I copy pasted
pulsar wigeon
either way you can do that check in the stream just as well
true canyon
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pulsar wigeon
that's the guy who asked here yesterday
true canyon
Oh, missed that
potent warren
@upper flicker is there a way to do a unicode escape on Debuggery?
ancient bolt
my day of work is complete
4 day weekend is here
and since I worked from home today, I'm already sitting on my couch
woven otter
papergradle I want answers
potent warren
Does anyone happen to know why when I paste a real emoji on Minecraft it turns into two chars?
golden gust
MInecrafts handling of unicode is pretty... interesting...
true canyon
No updates? Oof.
potent warren
I think so, but it breaks
ancient bolt
@woven otter I don't have answers
mainly because that's not what it's called anymore
woven otter
well Z mentioned papergradle and now I'm curious
potent warren
It does some emotes... whilst others it doesn't... https://i.imgur.com/DNQaJeA.png
welp?!
ancient bolt
read all about it here https://github.com/DemonWav/paperweight
woven otter
upper flicker
No I've never had the need
ancient bolt
idk what you're talking about https://i.imgur.com/hxLVKFn.png
potent warren
it probably wouldn't work either way
potent warren
Minecraft breaks some emotes into two chars
ancient bolt
don't be frightened by the one commit from october
I've just been force pushing ammending the first commit
unreal quarry
@potent warren its not minecraft, its java
ancient bolt
when it goes public I'll update the date to be the current day
unreal quarry
workaround for what?
ancient bolt
potent warren
for Java fucking my emotes ๐ฆ
ancient bolt
you would have to update the client to specifically handle utf-8 if you really wanted it to handle all the cases
and gl;hf with that
potent warren
unreal quarry
@potent warren first you have to understand the difference between 16bit characters and 32bit characters
ancient bolt
java chars are 2-byte wide unicode surrogates, which makes them..annoying...
potent warren
So, it's a lost cause...
unreal quarry
second, you have to understand how Minecraft draws characters on the screen
third, give up because you realize the client draws 16bit chars only
๐
ancient bolt
It's a lost cause unless you modified the client
and the modification would not really be worth it
unreal quarry
thats why minecraft only has 256 font pages ๐
potent warren
Why is java retarded ;-;
acoustic pilot
Worth considering if you run a modpack server and had the experience, maybe
potent warren
Also, I just discovered that Mojang changed the font system on 1.13 
unreal quarry
i've done it. its not so bad. but i had to move all 32bit emotes down into 16bit space
i just overwrite chinese language lol
acoustic pilot
Java also has a fairly unhealthy obsession with BC
ancient bolt
utf-16 in 1994 was dam progressive at the time
acoustic pilot
Though.
ancient bolt
then utf-8 became the standard
potent warren
Even C# handles emoji correctly 
acoustic pilot
Often inhibits progress, IMO
ancient bolt
you aren't understanding what we're saying
shut thicket
Wait
potent warren
I am.
ancient bolt
the client doesn't support it
shut thicket
how do you get the #swifties-club channel role
potent warren
hmmmm
shut thicket
I have one in two servers I administrate.
acoustic pilot
You have to convince DemonWav you're a real swifty./
ancient bolt
@shut thicket you have to be a swifty
what servers are these
provide screenshots immediately
shut thicket
ancient bolt
Are these other servers copying us?
shut thicket
uhhhhh.
ancient bolt
If they are, good
shut thicket
Well
ancient bolt
damn straight they better be
shut thicket
looking at my join date here
and
uh
My taylor swift fan channel was created back in 2018
ancient bolt
I've marked you as swifty
shut thicket
#totallynotacopycat
shut thicket
Same tbh
ancient bolt
and it was #paper
potent warren
so, what's the last char of the 8 bit space?
ancient bolt
.g extended ascii table
shut thicket
What negative things can be said about Tay tay?
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shut thicket
Oh I'm sure they know.
Do they care? Is the dev team just one guy in a basement?
Both answers are probably opposite to each other.
acoustic pilot
I wouldn't count on Mojang's developers being in control of the project.
shut thicket
The anti-christ.
acoustic pilot
Minecraft 1.14 is an abomination from a developer perspective, I doubt any of them would've signed off on a release in this state.
ancient bolt
developers never make those decisions
acoustic pilot
Executives > Team Managers -> Project Leads -> Developers
Probably some pressure from higher up.
shut thicket
"Well it's a dumpster fire but hey, the fans want scaffolding so lets release now"
acoustic pilot
Your definition of dumpster fire and theirs are often different
It's a matter of revenue, really.
unreal quarry
0xFFFF is the last character minecraft supports, @potent warren (everyting between 0x0000 and 0xFFFF, all 65,535 characters)
acoustic pilot
From an end-user perspective it's a horrible experience
But has their strategically timed release yielded more-than-usual revenue?
potent warren
@unreal quarry Thanks so much and sorry for bothering
shut thicket
Probably with realms, tbh.
ancient bolt
which would say minecraft does not support any surrogate pairs, that is to say no high surrogates are supported. Java supports them just fine
acoustic pilot
We're half-way through American summer break and Vanilla 1.14 is still very broken, re: not in a condition to be released.
unreal quarry
@potent warren if you want to see how I got around it look at my old pl3xicons plugin. moved a lot of emojis down into the 16bit space minecraft supports using this method. Also added a bunch of new ones https://youtu.be/OcXm5LrTSIE?t=500
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acoustic pilot
They would've lost a lot of money if they released 1.14 when it really should've been.
potent warren
Will do Billy. Thanks ๐
ancient bolt
.g DemonWav twitter
limber knotBOT
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Twitter
ancient bolt
@shut thicket I even have it on my twitter
shut thicket
I don't have social media, otherwise I would too.
acoustic pilot
Oh hi friend, welcome to the "cool kids who don't use Facebook" club ๐
Still got a Twitter but only to rant about trash ๐
ancient bolt
I mostly retweet political stuff and stuff about taylor
acoustic pilot
Yeah me too, except the Taylor stuff
cosmic raft
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void void
pulsar wigeon
why not a taylor swift fan, you have one already
ancient bolt
I occasionally invite people over unfortunately
glass vapor
who's back
void void
person right above my last msg /shrug
glass vapor
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
limber knotBOT
buying anitcheat when NCP is a thing
glass vapor
ncp hasn't been updated since 1.12.2?
limber knotBOT
of course it has, lol
glass vapor
wut
limber knotBOT
just look at the forks, it's open source for a reason
void void
what is NCP?
limber knotBOT
NoCheatPlus, one of the oldest anti cheat plugins
glass vapor
haven't stumbled upon any forks
void void
Spartan isnt better?
JuSt LoOk At ThE fOrKs
Yeah. Because normal server owners, especially as dull as the ones we have in here, will ever figure that out.
do oyu know some cheats to test the plugin?
glass vapor
salty
void void
Just being real
glass vapor
still salty
pulsar wigeon
lul
glass vapor
is the new mcmmo better than classic?
void void
subjective
they're both updated i believe, new has more features that expand on classic
so try both m8
glass vapor
might do might do
woven otter
why use anti-cheat plugins when you can just trust people instead 
limber knotBOT
trusting people
woven otter
smh not having faith in human race
fallen oracle
Wowza, just looked at how much money I've spent on GFUEL in the past year
At least it's less than what I used to spend on energy drinks.
limber knotBOT
Since updating to 1.14.3 my server keeps crashing https://pastebin.com/XNgXT5db
acoustic pilot
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Bitcoin 'uses as much global energy as Switzerland' - Currently, the... : Futurology - 1,376 comments, 8,007 points - mvea, 12h ago
acoustic pilot
I wonder what all crypto mining looks like by comparison
limber knotBOT
so you only need the global energy amount of switzerland to keep a real digital value storage running
void void
yeah come at me wiz
pulsar wigeon
no lol
void void
its a good time waster
acoustic pilot
0.21% of the world's supply, to be specific
sturdy fulcrum
Sup ladies and gents
void void
spotify just gave me 3 ads in a fucking row
sturdy fulcrum
Who gets ads in Spotify
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Spotify Track: Eminence Front by The Who from the album It's Hard (Remastered) https://open.spotify.com/track/3Ml4wVs02wZYbNk5YJikdM
void void
using adblock in a desktop application
limber knotBOT
although twitch has started to include ads in video streams now so that's happening ;_;
void void
i don't like their webplayer
limber knotBOT
I mean you can block ads on your whole network
just doesn't work with stuff embeded in audio/video streams
void void
yes i've tried with pihole, it blocks too much
limber knotBOT
you can edit what it blocks ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
void void
yes, i basically spent all day removing blocks
limber knotBOT
I just run a script that manually pulls in host lists on my router
never had a single issue with that (and yes, the blocks work)
void void
never said it doesn't work
it works too well
it blocks more than i want it to
i spend way too much time unblocking shit
limber knotBOT
no, I just stated that so nobody could say "maybe it just doesn't block anythign" xD
void void
ok lmao
limber knotBOT
then you have some strange list
I never had that issue with the ones I use
apparently I only use adaway's host list and the malwaredomainlist.com list
void void
meh i'll reinstall pihole later on my server
limber knotBOT
(adaway is targetted at android so there's that... I guess if I included a web block list I would have more issues. but all PCs in my network run uBo so yeah)
void void
ads dont bother me if it's just 1 but 3 or even 4 in a row it starts getting on my nerves
limber knotBOT
I just listen to music on youtube (or internet radio streams) ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
void void
whatever floats your boat
pulsar wigeon
idk why i'd bother with a pihole with ubo
limber knotBOT
the main advantage that it works in places where you can't use uBo
e.g. android apps
void void
i guess that
idk
i had mine for 3 days flat
then removed it
because it annoyed me
pulsar wigeon
i don't use android apps besides discord
limber knotBOT
well I have an adblock on my phone too, I mainly installed it for other people (e.g. my family) that uses my network xD
acoustic pilot
Damn, isometric pixel art is pretty easy and plugging it all into a map using Tiled is even easier ๐
hollow basalt
stiff yarrow
I listen to music on youtube as well 
acoustic pilot
In pixel art at least, getting a 26 degree angle is easy with the 2:1 rule. when drawing diagonally, draw 2 pixels before moving down or up, and it creates 26 degree angles ๐
stiff yarrow
@static badge https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/c8rfg4/warrior_cats_rp_a_member_founds_a_cult_a_lot_of/ can you explain this to me
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) [Warrior Cats RP] A member founds a cult, a lot of effort is put into... : HobbyDrama - 63 comments, 411 points - Vievin, 7h ago
static badge
someone decided to not play by the rules and got fucked
you sort of really need to enforce rules else everyone sorta does their own thing and it becomes a complete mess
src: used to moderate for a rp server years ago
stiff yarrow
hmm thanks for translating the feline roleplay talk into something humans could understand
static badge
were you baiting me
ancient bolt
I really look forward to not opening itunes whenever I need to play an audio file...
tame pendant
Can we take a moment to wonder what Australia was doing with their time zones?
pulsar wigeon
that's not even the most of it
there's a city right between the green and orange on the southern coast that's +8:45
:^)
the time zone is ACWST - australian central western standard time
and that's just one example of such silliness
pulsar wigeon
yes, that's what the graphic described self_slaughter
the sun is the daylight savings time offsets
ancient bolt
hmmm
well I might as well give the beta a go
see what happens
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
downloading now
Sure wish android had imessage
inland crypt
tranquil flame
lost star
ancient bolt
really enjoy the catalina desktop more than the last one
welp time to move my zsh config from my desktop over to my macbook too
austere fog
oh I was just heading the engine hub
void void
Interesting. When I signed up for the macos public beta, the beta software said "no time machine detected" yet my time machine is mounted and I can successfully take a backup, and then took an ad hoc backup, and it still says not detected lmao
austere ivy
Howdy 
void void
go back to sleep brian
void void
adios
stiff yarrow
why are we still here? Just to suffer?
void void
fallen oracle
What is that from?
stiff yarrow
the never ending nightmare
pseudo island
Oof
void void
Alright then, updated to Catalina beta
not terrible, some of my apps are fucked but whatever lmao
finite wave
@stiff yarrow Craftbukkit?
stiff yarrow
Hmm
one thing I like a lot about my current KB is this volume control knob thing
top right
cosmic raft
reminds me of things from 1990
cosmic raft
@stiff yarrow https://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4-professional/
stiff yarrow
hm
stiff yarrow
Logitech makes some good stuff kash 
cosmic raft
Mouse that wasn't even a year old started sending double-clicks and triple-clicks on a single click
and their support was shit about it
cosmic raft
das
Youโve recently been in contact with our Customer Care department. Weโre following up to remind you to send in your damaged product, so we can ship out a replacement. If youโve already sent the product, please disregard this email.
send in my only mouse, wait who knows how long for it to arrive at logitech and them to send one, and who knows how long the replacement would take to arrive
like
all these
unrelated: wheee!
You now have beta access to GitHub Package Registry ๐
stiff yarrow
isn't that how most RMAs go 
stiff yarrow
so does das keyboard have good support then 
cosmic raft
when I got my EVGA GPU
the temperature bios bug thing was around
and I was unsure if I'd be able to patch it myself
stiff yarrow
do I order das off their store or amazon
cosmic raft
I'd use their store
so I contacted EVGA asking if I could RMA
Thank you for contacting us today and I am sorry to hear about the concerns you are having regarding your graphics card. We are offering a complimentary Advanced RMA for these units. This particular form of RMA will allow you to receive a replacement without having to send yours in first, which is a much faster process. The replacement will have both the new BIOS and the thermal pads installed.
cosmic raft
they aren't
but some have some features that don't work due to drivers/etc i'd guess
volume wheel for example, maybe?
cosmic raft
Celebrate Independance Day! 3 year extended warranty on all new keyboards. Use code 4July2019 at checkout.
good time to buy, too!
void void
epic
stiff yarrow
@cosmic raft for some reason that promo code doesn't work, even though its advertised on their site
gonna order it anyways
cosmic raft
strange 
stiff yarrow
cosmic raft
case-sensitive?
limber knotBOT
btw nossr, keyboard os is normally down to the meta key
stiff yarrow
meta key?
limber knotBOT
So whether it's got a windows logo or command symbol or linux key on it
The "Windows" key
Like my mech board is Win/Mac since it doesn't have a linux key
But it all works fine on Linux :P
stiff yarrow
@cosmic raft I tried it the way it was written on the site 4July2019 exactly
cosmic raft
strange
cosmic raft
:D
jaunty bolt
@stiff yarrow the screenshot of static code? is static bad?
Also saw you post this: private static final Main plugin = Main.getPlugin(); Is that bad to do?
woven otter
static = more performance 
quasi valley
instantly makes everything static 
woven otter
also it's oop 101
quasi valley
@jaunty bolt the point of static fields and methods isnt to say "hey I can do Class.method because I'm lazy" but to have those work independent from its object instances
or for util schtufferoni
void void
nobody:
every Bukkit plugin tutorial on youtube: Main.getInstance()
stiff yarrow
@jaunty bolt where did I post that ?
quasi valley
it's really astonishing how many german coding tutorials there are, with almost every single one doing that @void void ๐
void void
bad programming practices transcends the language barrier
quasi valley
like, almost every time some wants to become a super dev at our server, they send code like this (small example but it should suffice)https://github.com/TebosBrime/ChatTime/blob/master/src/main/java/de/TebosBrime/CTime/CTimeAddon.java
๐
quasi valley
just a dude that apparently "learned" his stuff from youtube
void void
I mean I personally wouldn't want to pick on someone who didn't know any better
but the way I see it, if you're showing other people how to do it, you should at least know what you're talking about
quasi valley
I do pick on them if they come to us and tell us how great they are ๐
jaunty bolt
nossr50โLast Monday at 10:23 AM
private static final Main plugin = Main.getPlugin();
:aPES_Shake:
was just searching if someone else mentioned static code
void void
I do pick on them if they come to us and tell us how great they are ๐
You should read this article I found on HN https://daedtech.com/how-developers-stop-learning-rise-of-the-expert-beginner/
quasi valley
I'll give it a read when I have the time later
void void
ah well it just reminded me of a quote from a linked article
"You see, Iโm the sort of person who was self-trained. My degree is actually in psychology, you see. Iโve had to learn everything in IT the hard way, and that gives me a much deeper and more practical understanding than you. You probably canโt even program in Visual Basic like I can, so just stay away from things you canโt understand."
quasi valley
though to note, we obv gave him some input and things to read up on what we found to be weird and didnt just tell him "lolz you're too bad"
void void
oh I'm sure :p
tired veldt
acoustic pilot
This is such a cool project done in LibGDX: https://github.com/collinsmith/riiablo
stiff yarrow
REEEEEEEEEablo
worn ember
Reeeee
stiff yarrow
has anyone made a git blame viewer that doesn't suck
worn ember
You should only blame yourself
finite wave
@stiff yarrow make one
heavy rapids
aI wIlL tAkE oVeR sOcIeTy
aI iN 2o19
finite wave
Default
warm furnace
junior vigil
primal axle
does anyone know how to get a scoreboard what doesn't show the numbers like 1-15 instead if I want it to show the amount of money I have it would show the money instead of the number
like that
or what plugin can do that
heavy rapids
that's default scoreboard behavior
what plugin do you use to manage your scoreboard right now
primal axle
every plugin I have seen only puts like 1-15
right now I am using liteboard and somewhy they have removed it from spigotmc
stiff yarrow
jaunty bolt
same
lapis sequoia
does anyone know how to make luckperms stfu
vestal jasper
context?
lapis sequoia
i just released a new crate and there was a influx of players opening keys and this was hella smamming
true canyon
Do you have a debug feature enabled
vestal jasper
It does that by default
true canyon
Or does your crate plugin do something stupid like execute console commands
true canyon
Well that's your real problem, not luckperms
lapis sequoia
i didnt come here to be sassed about my crate plugin
vestal jasper
I mean I doubt they have the knowledge to write their own plugin or add in permissions features to the one they're using
tropic flame
@lapis sequoia go on LuckPerms's config.yml file and disable the option that notifies players of permission changes
true canyon
No sass from me, just pointing out your problem is in a different plugin .
true canyon
Was said the plugin was executing console commands. Plugin should talk directly to luckperms via api
golden gust
There is a permission node in LP to control who sees those messages, ultimatly the commands aren't designed for plugins to use...
vestal jasper
I'm not sure of any crate plugins that directly have support for LP permission assignment ๐ค
true canyon
None of them support vault? That's not good!
vestal jasper
I didn't say vault but ok
true canyon
I made the assumption you'd have brought up their vault support by now, based on your response to my saying commands weren't the way to do it. :)
void void
wat lol
acoustic pilot
u all smell like farts and have funny shaped noses
you mean...
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/orereplacer-100-no-more-x-ray-miners-seriously.22158/ -- OreReplacer - 100% no more X-ray miners, seriously. |...: "This plugin is a minecraft server-side spigot plugin in order to enhance the ... would make the ore disappear due to server anti-xray mechanism."
heavy rapids
oh btw happy 4th of july to all the americans here
heavy rapids
Oh :( Poor dog
void void
im talking WELL into the early morning too
like shut the fuck up
if you have that enthusiasm for the country, then set them off the rest of the year too
now you're all just being dicks
but anyway yeah, happy day lmao
heavy rapids
welp, I actually had no idea about fireworks on the 4th, but I'm from europe, so I don't need to know :P
I wonder if the french do fireworks on the 14th tho 
golden gust
We just have "bonfire night" over in the UK, guy fawkes
true canyon
Yeah too many fireworks last night. Tonight will suck for the pupper.
People recklessly launching fireworks in crowded suburbia
heavy rapids
our constitution got 70 years old on may 23, but we didn't have a bank holiday :(
acoustic pilot
So many car alarms going off lol
golden gust
Pretty much what happens over here every year, people also terrorize the emergency services too
limber knotBOT
ban assault fireworks
stiff yarrow
fireworks 
acoustic pilot
fireworks or gunfire? never know in america
vestal jasper
No fireworks at all here so far.
Though I have a stadium near me and they enjoy their fireworks.
Luckily my cat and I have a thing we do when he gets scared.
Wrap him up in a large blanket and let him stick his head out
limber knotBOT
why not just tranq your pet if they're so terrified of fireworks
true canyon
Few idiot gun owners (qualifier on a subset not all) here @acoustic pilot so just fireworks near me.
vestal jasper
Well that wouldn't be that viable last place I lived. My neighbors decided to set off fireworks daily for 2 weeks before july 4th and a week following.
Even though fireworks are illegal there
limber knotBOT
just do what we do in portugal
country's so flammable that shit just instantly catches on fire if someone fires fireworks
works wonders
vestal jasper
Moving while teleporting logs Player moved too quickly! in console
huh
void void
No, I can tell the difference between a firework and a gunshot. Out in the woods, there are shots, but I can't hear them from here. Few miles out. But where I am, it's firework hell. And it wasn't even the 4th yet, just noticed that when mbax said tonight lol. They were going at it late 3rd into the early hours. So I can only imagine what tonight will be.
Furthermore, California is literally a gigantic firestarter.
So it's really not smart to light anything but ground fireworks.
Any that fly are asking for disaster.
But do people care?
NOPE.
limber knotBOT
that doesn't sound like FREEDUM to me simple
you aren't a commie now are you son?
limber knotBOT
(^-^) National Anthem of USSR - length 3m 45s - 477,760 likes, 22,994 dislikes (95.4%) - 51,222,178 views - rascrifice on 2008.05.04
pine valve
void void
limber knotBOT
your mom?
heady spear
go back to stroking your beard
limber knotBOT
jealousy is an ugly emotion
void void
get a room already
cosmic gorge
then you're missing out
void void
ill take my chances
limber knotBOT
if I had to describe the video I'd say it shows a hot guy stroking it
limber knotBOT
makes a request
golden gust
I wouldn't trust him either, tbh
limber knotBOT
refuses to see it
heady spear
I choose ignorance
limber knotBOT
your loss
dapper nacelle
if I store an entity in a variable and do entity.getLocation() will it return a null when the entity is dead?
or just the last location of the entity before it died?
mental surge
hollow spoke
rancid prawn
wide hazel
I mean, I don't know if either have anything they want to keep private
finite wave
Weebs
wide hazel
But if they do, should update
finite wave
They probably have super sensitive furry stuff
left yacht
@meager perch please understand that being #1 search result in one country doesn't make you #1 in all countries
also most people don't just search for minecraft servers anymore.
they usually make it specific
searching for "skyblock server" for example. which results in this
complete reversal lol
pulsar wigeon
tf is /ncr?
left yacht
I find those search results pretty worthless.
pulsar wigeon
google analytics?
golden gust
meinkraft servhur
pulsar wigeon
as far as website goes anyway
left yacht
the more analytics the better!
golden gust
That's my guess
left yacht
do as I say not as I do as we have no login analytics.
because our mitigation system doesn't send us the hostname
for complicated reasons
pulsar wigeon
that's dum
left yacht
mainly us not understanding GO at all
golden gust
rip
left yacht
and lilypad being barely supported
tardy lynx
paid advertising isn't usually worth it if you're small
left yacht
paid advertising is terrible
take it from someone trying to grow another network, BreakingMC.
in today's market, you're going to be a loss leader
tardy lynx
free listings
peak dirge
@left yacht I assume said mitigation system is ProxyPipe?
left yacht
I love the guys at proxypipe, but their infrastructure hasn't adapted
for the differing attacks.
so we use tcpshield, something that redfrosting has created over the years
TCPShield?
100 dollars for 2.5TB last time I checked
I haven't used them since 2016
peak dirge
I was wondering about TCPShield, we're having some issues with ProxyPipe
tardy lynx
Is ddos protection even worth it?
left yacht
tcpshield is free, because we're mainly using it to learn new attack vectors and patch them. Though I'm not the person in charge of bringing people onboard.
and cloudflare LOL
that's like 3-4k
last time I checked
for that spectrum
peak dirge
try $6k
tardy lynx
I homehosted servers for like 8 months total and it's gone down to ddos once
tardy lynx
10-20 players daily peak