obviously if you only have 1 java instance then that's a lot easier
#general
ancient bolt
limber knotBOT
got 64gb and 5ghz processor
if i have 2 instances of paper running on an 8 thread machine (using aikars flags) is it a good idea to give each instance 4 threads or just let them share the whole machine?
void void
the answer to your question: no the flags do not assume you're only running one paper instance
how are you gonna give a specific instance a set amount of threads lol
void void
i guess lol
limber knotBOT
its just that on java12 im feeling much more stability and performance when using simple java -jar compared to aikars flags
ancient bolt
dunno what you're confused about
limber knotBOT
trying to figure out if java is just2smart at this point and doesnt need fancy flags
void void
I'm not? That was just completely outside of what I was thinking as that has to do with the process management and not java itself
and nothing to do with aikar's flags
ancient bolt
java will never not need fancy flags, GC configuration is an important part of java and it's intentional
and I'll say your comment on stability is almost certainly not reality
fast solstice
Demon, isn't GC already run without any flags?
Aikars flags just changes them, different settings?
stiff yarrow
if you don't specify flags then it would be using default settings
stiff yarrow
Java
fast solstice
So isn't it then technically possible that Java12 has better suited default flags then Java8 ?
stiff yarrow
yes but its unlikely the flags are optimized for Minecraft
fast solstice
But Aikars flags are also made and tested with Java8 (I assume)
Hence, his options could be worse on Java12
fast solstice
I'm not stating anything. But we have a person that's experiencing it as he's doing it. While the rest of you is just shrudding him off with insuniations and guesswork.
merry talon
only thing that has changed since is that some of those flags are now default
doesn't hurt to still specify them
ancient bolt
there have been no JEPs in java 9, 10, 11, and 12 which dramatically changes performance of any aspect of default G1GC or any other default GC. All other performance improvements would apply to either JVM with or without aikar's flags
stiff yarrow
Java 12 added a new GC, dunno if its good for Minecraft though
ancient bolt
the new GC in j12 is experimental and not default
however once it's stable it will be phenomenal for MC
stiff yarrow
that's good to hear
ancient bolt
fast solstice
Sweet
ancient bolt
Pause times do not exceed 10ms
Pause times do not increase with the heap or live-set size
Handle heaps ranging from a few hundred megabytes to multi terabytes in size
fleet osprey
Have you guys tested the new snapshot/combat mechanics yet
stiff yarrow
multi-terabyte heaps 
vestal jasper
noss gimme the lightsaber dance peepo
stiff yarrow
vestal jasper
ty
stiff yarrow
stiff yarrow
changes to bytecode
vestal jasper
fast solstice
Or does Java12 impose problems that he hasnt encountered yet?
stiff yarrow
you could run Java 12 and have literally no problems
fast solstice
Literally every article online that explains how you setup a mc server
vestal jasper
because it just works ™
ancient bolt
I don't care about online articles
however, at the time of writing it may have been the case that java 8 was the most recent version
fast solstice
ancient bolt
I don't care
stiff yarrow
Java 8 is the most compatible, but Java 12 would be faster and could run without issue
fast solstice
- on google
fast solstice
I'm just saying that your statement is bullshit
And then providing proof
If you dont like it, so be it
ancient bolt
what part of my statement is bullshit
fast solstice
"08:01] DemonWav: java8 isn't recommended
[08:01] DemonWav: don't recal anyone saying it was"
ancient bolt
yes, no one here said it was
austere fog
I'm not sure if this is against the rules, but am I able to ask where is the best place I can hire developers to make a plugin?
acoustic pilot
i recommend java 6 tbh
fast solstice
I can never tell if your sarcastic or not Byte :P
ancient bolt
and we (paper) don't specifically recommend any java version over the other
acoustic pilot
damn, first mission for starbound is way harder than it should be for a noob
shit took like 3 hours
stiff yarrow
@austere fog small or large plugin
austere fog
large
vestal jasper
Noss I got the base of my chat plugin rewrite done
austere fog
I just checked the spigot forum for hiring... someone is paying up to $2,000 for a NPC Library pretty similar to Citizens
void void
sounds fair to me
stiff yarrow
@austere fog normally I'd consider taking the job but I'm about to go on a small mini-vacation for 5 days so I will pass 
austere fog
Oh
void void
at 35 per hour that's a little over a week of work 
ancient bolt
@static badge has been looking for a plugin job, should ask him
austere fog
Well the project is a custom Quests plugin because PikaMug/FlyingPickachu's is wayyy too buggy and does not support many things
stiff yarrow
@austere fog well if you don't find anyone to do it I'm available starting July 1st 
austere fog
That might work well, I'll send you a friend request
ancient bolt
@stiff yarrow 2 questions:
- What's your rate, and
- Can you help with depression and lack of motivation?
void void
im interested in #2
stiff yarrow
stiff yarrow
the trick is to only think about working
ancient bolt
that sounds awful
void void
how are you doing, mentally, nossr
stiff yarrow
pretty good lately
unreal quarry
what we need is more kraken in our lives
void void
according to mac, intellij no longer exists on my pc
according to jb toolbox, it's there and well
nice
wide shoal
Player farms... https://i.imgur.com/XkW21sF.jpg
unreal quarry
^ thats why I added phantoms as natural spawns to the end world
void void
Inside a player's head: "what can I do that is so absolutely outrageous that it will probably crash the server but we'll worry about that later?"
cosmic raft
@void void you better start https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAwzP095AeA
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Tom Grennan - Praying - length 3m 3s - 33,054 likes, 624 dislikes (98.1%) - 3,233,472 views - TomGrennanVEVO on 2017.03.23
void void
I fixed it
my dock was pointing toward an old version which toolbox nuked
WTF
it's been 104 days since i last opened this project
holy fucc
what am i doing with my life.
cosmic raft
what project
fast solstice
Personal notes and diary for his sessions with nossr
void void
holy shit fuck webdev
void void
spark hatch
zinc surge
I've got a new one I can't figure out...
I loaded a new flat world with MultiVerse and for some reason TNT doesn't push me.
I checked permissions with verbose output but it isn't a permission thing.
I've checked WorldGuard flags but there are none in the area I'm in... TNT will do block damage and all, I also take fall damage but it just won't damage or push me/the player.
I tried in other worlds and it seems to work there.
What am I missing? 😖
Plugins (24): AltFinder, AsyncWorldEdit, BossShopPro, Cenotaph, CommandHook, CraftBook, DiscordSRV, EpicHeads, Essentials, EssentialsSpawn, ExtraHardMode, GraviTree, GriefPrevention, LuckPerms, mcMMO, Multiverse-Core, Multiverse-Inventories, NoCheatPlus, ParrotAnnouncer, SuperbVote, Vault, Votifier, WorldEdit, WorldGuard
I also checked GriefPrevention but it's set to the same thing on the new world as well as on one that it's working on
I think I just figured out that I have to have PvP enabled by MultiVerse for it to have an effect on players...
heady spear
God bless America!! xoxo
flint ice
Paper 1.14.3 or SpigotMC?
flint ice
Gimem the simple answer
Ey
!
Thanks simple
:3
Yup
I'm totally normal
I always ask for McNuggets and A Bigmac at Burger king
finite wave
Nub
void void
touches @finite wave 😏
finite wave
Oh are we doing this now 😏
void void
yea 😏
tame pendant
In the middle of generating my world with worldborder, i switched from 1.14.2 to 1.14.3 and now my world looks like this. Could switching versions be why? I didn't think that the seed or world generation would change
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/571801209598509056/593724525603061769/2019-06-27_20.47.07.png
median yarrow
void void
not surprised
vestal jasper
Doesn't the jre bundle some classes that can be used for hashing?
void void
yes but > auth plugin
wide chasm
I think there's a Cipher class or something
void void
you're talking about people who support cracked mc
like, they're all fucking retards
all of them
vestal jasper
though the functionality literally doesn't change because of it being a "staff" auth plugin
heady spear
Storing plaintext passwords is completely fine imo
makes them so much easier to recover xoxo
heavy rapids
lmao
void void
vestal jasper
"Yeah bro here's your passcode"
wide chasm
That's what every large company says in the meeting
heady spear
hashing takes a lot of time
heavy rapids
I must admit I once made a staff auth plugin without hashing, but it was only 4-digit pin codes
heady spear
it'd make logging in a lot slower
heavy rapids
so hashing would have been moot
wide chasm
It's even better if your help desk can see the passwords, so they can quickly check the account to see if everything is fine
heady spear
ye otherwise you'll have shite customer support
vestal jasper
heady spear
no one cares about security anyway
void void
the help desk i started at kept all their passwords in excel
heady spear
but also use bcrypt it takes like 2 seconds to hash your passwords then
bcrypt > ur crypt
void void
column A was account name, B was username, C was password
wide chasm
Ah, yes, excel, my favorite file format.
void void
all of them
void void
https://www.mindrot.org/projects/jBCrypt/ forever
ik not built in but pls, people
wide chasm
At least MessageDigest has SHA-256, was getting worried when I saw the first two.
heady spear
jBCrypt is dope
void void
correct :D
cosmic raft
weebcrypt
void void
D:
cosmic raft
encrypted with anime images
void void
:D
heady spear
that sounds dope
heavy rapids
UwU what's this
wide chasm
All salts are names of anime series.
heady spear
if kashike says weebing is fine I say we're all weebs
vestal jasper
simple 1 class, 70 LOC plugin
"config settings will break each update! back them up! we'll be looking into a fix!"
u wot
cosmic raft
weebing is fine
vestal jasper
binged 8 episodes of neon genesis in a row
if I didn't require sleep I'd continue rn 
cosmic raft
oh yeah that's nothing
heavy rapids
oof
void void
how the fuck they gonna break the config each update
vestal jasper
Yeah I watched the entirety of death note in one sitting
heavy rapids
ur binging evangelion
cosmic raft
i watched s1 of star trek discovery tonight
void void
i can't even do that if i try
cosmic raft
(again)
void void
like i'd have to think about it
finite wave
Hmm
void void
the entire season 1?
heavy rapids
I binged episodes 1 .. 24
heady spear
can someone come over and study calculus with me?
heavy rapids
and I was like dead
vestal jasper
Yeah I've been enjoying evangelion quite a bit so far
cosmic raft
yes simple
heavy rapids
yeah it's great
void void
please for the love of god just watch next generation
heavy rapids
especially the rebuilds
heavy rapids
two of my mc accounts are OG evangelion names
heady spear
star trek is very geek
void void
lets play how many times can the main character cry on screen
google: Did you mean star trek: discovery?
vestal jasper
I saw neon on netflix earlier and decided to pick it up.
Apparently it was put on netflix like a week ago or something 
void void
wats that
heavy rapids
an euphemism
heady spear
star trek is the sequel to the fault in our stars right?
vestal jasper
This version may be slightly glitchy as it is in it's early development stage
how can an auth plugin be glitchy?
heavy rapids
neon genesis evangelion
wide chasm
It doesn't hash/salt yet
void void
the developer is a retard >>>EOF
heady spear
Stop complaining and PR to it you dumb shit 😠
vestal jasper
it's not open source
heady spear
instead of complaining here like a little dork, go be productive 😠
vestal jasper
They literally spent more time on the plugin's graphics than they did on the plugin itself
heady spear
where's your auth plugin?
void void
link to plogen
vestal jasper
Before someone asks https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/♦-staff-authenticator-♦.68652/
FUCK
void void
vestal jasper
simple pls
heavy rapids
this plogen looks rarted
vestal jasper
Also why do they use bungee's ChatColor class and not spigot's
I know this is a very nitpicky complaint but it's not very consistent.
heady spear
plugin doesnt seem to work. commands dont work even tho plugin is running fine. maybe its just me. but look into this
plz look into this
provided 0 details lol
inconsistent how?
void void
Prob bc using the chat component API
heady spear
are they using both?
void void
you have to use bungee's
heady spear
otherwise it's still consistent lol
vestal jasper
it doens't use components
heady spear
it'd be inconsistent if they switched
vestal jasper
sender.sendMessage(this.plugin.getConfig().getString(ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', "messages.incorrectcode")));
heady spear
it doesn't really matter tho? :p
void void
it makes your imports ugly
heavy rapids
wait what
vestal jasper
I know this is a very nitpicky complaint but it's not very consistent.
void void
:(
heady spear
how is it inconsistent?
heady spear
but also he's translating in the wrong place
vestal jasper
import org.bukkit.permissions.*;
import org.bukkit.command.*;
import org.bukkit.entity.*;
import net.md_5.bungee.api.*;
import org.bukkit.*;
import java.util.*;
import org.bukkit.event.*;
import org.bukkit.event.player.*;```he's translating the message key which is a bit odd ngl
heavy rapids
sure that's not the decompiler?
vestal jasper
Spigot provides the class as well as through bungee's chat api
heavy rapids
(i hope it doesn't)
vestal jasper
city pls
vestal jasper
he deliberately chose to use bungee's version over spigot's
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
void void
so shaddap
heady spear
idk withhunting without providing feedback to the author is a bitch move
so I hope you're also going to inform him 🤷
vestal jasper
withhunting
void void
I did provide feedback
heady spear
sry for making a typo :))
void void
` Hashing needs to be implemented immediately if this plagin is to be anywhere near worth clicking the download button, let alone installing it into your server.
Author: If you fix this outrageous security oversight, this review may change.`
I won't do it again daddy
heavy rapids
@void void doing gods work
vestal jasper
you better not, don't make me grab the belt
void void
o k
vestal jasper
I should rejoin is eventually
heady spear
he doesn't even know how to name his packages
vestal jasper
city you should check out my chat plugin rewrite 
heady spear
nah I'm good
heady spear
:[
also IS is weird lol
some people wanted to start a patreon and sell access to prioritized supported
also "premium support", whatever that means
heady spear
no
heavy rapids
good
I was kinda worried
also regarding the staff auth plugin linked earlier, it's only tested in 1.8 and thus sucks by default
oof
I might be able to opensource a bunch of my plugins over the next few days
limber knotBOT
I have 64gb and run 2 instances of paper with 16gb, htop shows RES and SHR at 45GB each, what are those?
while VIRT is 16gb (the actual memory usage) if i understand correctly
void void
RES - Resident Size - non-swapped physical memory a task has used
SHR - Shared Memory Size - The amount of shared memory used by a task. It simply reflects
memory that could be potentially shared with other processes.
https://askubuntu.com/questions/176001/what-do-virt-res-and-shr-mean-in-the-top-command
and java memory doesn't work how you think it does
cosmic raft
RES actually means Really Enormous @void void
void void
my dick is RES
limber knotBOT
oh, i misread, VIRT says 16T not 16GB
void void
i recommend reading the link i sent instead of be copy and pasting the definition of virt
worn ember
👋
void void
go away
worn ember
😦
heavy rapids
dark can you pls change the php to either all-lowercase or all-uppercase because right now it triggers my REEEE
worn ember
No. The whole point of the name is to trigger people lmao
heavy rapids
:(
void void
FUCK YOU GO AWAY I DON'T LIKE YOU
golden gust
Ditto
worn ember
Such bully
void void
fix your name and i'll redact my statement
also, the facebook group where we all act like boomers is fucking amazing
austere fog
Hey, question for the developers here:
How do you guys keep yourselves from being overwhelmed?
I'm currently working on a very very large gamemode/server and the original plugin code is bad, but I always get overwhelmed trying to make very very large plugins.
void void
i dont
golden gust
I disappear
golden gust
Drugs are bad, m'kay
austere fog
Eminem reference
void void
what
austere fog
you're my best friend now
normal echo
It's a case of splitting up the work into modules / tasks
heavy rapids
@austere fog if refactoring hurts i usually throw it out of the window and start v2
wide chasm
@austere fog I modularize the plugin as much as possible. Work in small parts and then tie them all together. It's a ) good practice and b) helps prevent you from being overwhelmed.
sniped
austere fog
Yeah thats what im trying to do
limber knotBOT
this page made sense to me https://www.linuxatemyram.com/
golden gust
myles How do you maintain ViaVersion without feeling bad about what you've unleashed unto the world?
limber knotBOT
i liked the penguin
normal echo
I don't, i cry myself to sleep every night
left yacht
because someone else would do it electronic
and probably would do it paid
infact someone else did make a paid version
worn ember
oof
left yacht
we paid 1000 dollars back in the day for that
austere fog
but I want to have all my modules in 1 project but compile into different jars, but I know very little about maven other than dependencies, compiling and the plugins. I don't know how to set up multiple modules for one project
normal echo
I'd probably suggest reading / watching a few tutorials 😛
void void
seriously this facebook group for being boomers rocks https://puu.sh/DLrls/022c1372f5.png
golden gust
setting the modules up is the easy part if you have a bit of familarity with maven, it's basically the same thing as a standard project, only you have a parent pom and lots more maven
austere fog
Like I've made everything from a /message plugin to a custom ai lib to my own forge mod
But it seems like the basics always kill me
heavy rapids
best way to sort itemstacks rn is a custom comparator, right
austere fog
Cant you sort them by a value
heavy rapids
wdym "by a value"
heavy rapids
Mh, basically I want to use ItemStacks as keys for a tree map, which requires them to be comparable.
(or requires me to supply a comparator, which is what I'm doing rn)
void void
what is the value 
heavy rapids
the value I'm using to compare rn?
worn ember
the value of the map lol
heavy rapids
Basically an itemstack wrapper class
to ensure I don't actually store live stacks as keys
void void
O_O
heavy rapids
if there's any better solution, please enlighten me :D
oh you mean the value that stacks are mapped to
austere fog
See I thought you meant something like:
itemStackList.stream().sorted(Comparator.comparing(ItemStack::getName).collect(Collectors.toList());
But I'm not sure about what you need. Sorry :c
stiff yarrow
@austere fog I think its fine to get overwhlemed, eventually it will become your new normal
heavy rapids
Mh, the thing is, I need sorted slices, fast search, fast insertion, fast deletion, so I picked a tree map as a data structure
because that allows sorted slices, O(log n) search, insertion, deletion (considering comparing as O(1))
heavy rapids
right now comparing the itemstacks is the bottleneck
worn ember
hire some indian to do it
heavy rapids
meh no monies
I guess I could actually do the sorting async in the background, but that'd require quite a ton of refactoring
normal echo
Supplying a comparator is probably the best solution
heavy rapids
mh I see
austere fog
Hey myles are you the dev of viaversion
normal echo
ya
heavy rapids
maybe I could fork paper and create a small patch that makes ItemStack and ItemMeta comparable, that could probably speed up comparing
because no more meta instanceof XMeta ...
austere fog
Well i mean
there is ItemStack#equals for exact matching and ItemStack#isSimilar right
heavy rapids
yes
austere fog
those might help
heavy rapids
I already use those
austere fog
Ah
heavy rapids
to quickly return 0 if they match
right now performance issues only occur for items with extensive meta
e.g. enchanted stuff, books, fireworks
finite wave
Last time i used it the methods didn’t work properly with items having a decent amount of nbt
heavy rapids
afaik isSimilar actually serializes the NBT and compares that
finite wave
Yeah, that didn’t work either
heavy rapids
I guess creating a PR for comparable itemstacks doesn't make sense as there's no canonical order?
(and thus the order would be subjective)
golden gust
pretty much
wide chasm
No, doesn't really make sense imo
golden gust
textur of ur face wid mah fist
wide chasm
My favorite snapchat effect
worn ember
sthap being so agreesive
vestal jasper
@void void mfw that plugin dev's 13
he prob doesn't even know hashing is a thing
stiff yarrow
@austere fog you'll get used to working in large things if you work in large things regularly
heavy rapids
well then he will learn it vic
it's a chance for him to get better at making plugins.
austere fog
So I'm currently working on Guilds as well, I'm working on MySQL support, but want to be able to sync multiple servers. What's the best way to handle that?
And thanks nossr, its things like that Quest system, I can get the basis, but quickly get overwhelmed and do something else
void void
@vestal jasper rip
stiff yarrow
@austere fog approaching that will really depend on what kind of things in the DB are at risk of async messing them up
soft lark
ionic tulip
pastel musk
hoi
heady spear
whät dö yüö mëän
limber knotBOT
good questsion
graceful kiln
pulsar wigeon
whö the fück is this nerd https://i.imgur.com/cmafH5y.png
heavy rapids
i think ä fly shät ön my screen, töö mäny döts
golden gust
lööl
golden gust
That's beautiful
woven otter
wow someone mentioned ducks
heavy rapids
Yes.
quasi valley
He called you a chicken
quasi valley
What a great acronym
quasi valley
ATC is the acronym, and it’s great because it has so many, so beautiful meanings 
heavy rapids
oic
cedar spade
AtTiC
pulsar wigeon
oh look there's the nerd
quasi valley
I love university, we’re now analyzing and interpreting drawings of 3 year old children
heavy rapids
what's your major
upper flicker
pulsar wraith
void void
welcome welcome
heavy rapids
o/
sage vessel
I always laugh about the You also agree that tacos are tasty, and the best food in the world. line in Paper's eula.txt file
golden gust
It's our best patch
quasi valley
Feed them tacos and they will fix themselves
void void
Lol
was about to install intellij then i saw "478 MB remaining" i was like "oh hell nah"
woven otter
you know what calling ducks chickens is just wrong
quasi valley
Well it states you are a chicken, but in a superior form
woven otter
wow that's just rude
woven otter
you're a chicken
woven otter
u
void void
look to my avatar
scenic roost
austere fog
Anyone wanna chat it's 10am and I'm bored
thorny chasm
merry talon
fallen oracle
Lord and Fate, sitting in general, K I S S I N G. First comes love, then comes marriage, then comes the baby in the baby carriage.
heavy rapids
Come here and witness it yourself
fallen oracle
In class.
ancient bolt
woah ubiquiti improved the box for their AC Pro a lot
and the PoE injector is way smaller now too
and white to match the AP
scarlet garnet
fallen oracle
Welcome.
true abyss
void void
welcome
fast solstice
394 new messages Lalalalalala scrolls to bottom.....
heavy rapids
"Mark as read"
;)
limber knotBOT
394? rookie numbers
heavy rapids
fallen oracle
Is that the 10m followers on instagram thing?
heavy rapids
dunno
limber knotBOT
true story that's the reason I had to upgrade my iphone 4
fallen oracle
I'm sure anyone with that size typically learns to turn off their notifications pretty quickly.
limber knotBOT
except it was skype messages
heavy rapids
you expect me to know what I'm posting? :D
finite wave
Lord?
heavy rapids
oof
heavy rapids
words can hurt cat
heavy rapids
sToP rEpEaTiNg WhAt I wRiTe
golden gust
Typing that actually hurt me
fallen oracle
Yeah, downloading WorldEdit now downloads Dynmap.
heavy rapids
they don't have redirects for the old links?
downloading worldedit now downloads FAWE
limber knotBOT
what's weird is that they did this specifically to annoy you wizjany
it's in their changelog
"fucked over wizjany lol"
pulsar wigeon
nah it's just like, dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/* is dead, it has to be /projects
minecraft.curseforge.com is gone too, has to be curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/
and since WE cross-refs all over, i had to change like 20 links
finite wave
Noob
pulsar wigeon
didn't even bother for old files, so those will all be dead til the end of time
finite wave
Just get worldedit.downloaf
heavy rapids
downloaf
finite wave
Meh
fallen oracle
Maybe
pulsar wigeon
ok, bukkit-plugins -> projects works for dev.bukkit.org at least
fallen oracle
That's good.
delicate igloo
void void
welcome
fallen oracle
This dude next to me is being sneaky. He's sitting here working on an assignment and he has his phone in his lap watching soccer.
austere fog
Heya glare o/
fallen oracle
Hey, KoF.
austere fog
oh i got an update for you
fallen oracle
That's always good.
austere fog
I found out how to sync the data pretty good
fallen oracle
Yeah?
austere fog
It does require a bungee plugin, but it's not very hard to make and its 99.9% effective
pulsar wigeon
11:20 AM] barty: Curse is managed by a bunch of morons you realize "curse" is like 4 different things right?
fallen oracle
That's good. Are we going to just do regular SQL first?
austere fog
Yeah
austere fog
but I think they way its going to work is when the plugin comes online, its going to try to send a message to the bungee, if it gets a response from the bungee plugin then its going to disable the internal sql system and rely on bungee plugin.
You do know that curse doesn't really exist anymore
fallen oracle
Interesting.
austere fog
They are lucky they got to keep their branding
fallen oracle
Did you get 400 under 10 yet?
austere fog
Twitch bought Curse
Curse had to fight for the right to keep their branding
Well now you know what happened to Curse 🤣
fallen oracle
Lol
fast solstice
In other news.... There is a dead, dried up, disgusting black slug on my floor. Do i remove it, or leave it be?
finite wave
^
fast solstice
I tried that once
All i got was a stomach ache
Apparently the trick is to eat them just after they die; not wait a couple of days until they look like raisins
fast solstice
Wtf kind of question is that? Why do you eat carrots? Why do you eat eggs? Why do you drink someone elses body fluids?
WHY WHY?
Because you're hungry ffs.
When exactly did Twitch buy bukkit?
molten quartz
pulsar wigeon
they didn't
twitch bought curse
curse just happened to run dev.bukkit.org at the time
fast solstice
So now Twitch runs it?
pulsar wigeon
technically, curse still does
Curse LLC (as a subsidiary of amazon.com inc) runs curseforge and related sites
pulsar wigeon
yea, twitch is the branding
cuz it's gamer-oriented
would be weird for amazon to put their logo their
note that Wikia (now Fandom) bought curse's media properties (gamepedia, etc)
so those are a separate thing
fast solstice
Okey, so who holds the bukkit.org domain?
This entire thing is extremely confusing :P
pulsar wigeon
curse does
you are confused because you're equating the curseforge site (dbo), forums, etc to the project itself
when mojang hired the bukkit devs and (secretly) bought the project, they did not buy dbo/forums from curse
fast solstice
Ahh
Still confusing tho, so many owners involved
Amazon, Twitch, Curse, Mojang, Gamepedia, Wikia (now Fandom)
I get it, they don't own it. But yet they where all part of your explanation :P
tropic flame
I always thought dbo was somewhat "given" even if they had to pay for it
So it makes sense
"given" as in given to the project devs
Then they went to mojang and the forums stayed with curse
pulsar wigeon
er, what
pulsar wigeon
dbo is and has always been part of curseforge
fast solstice
Didn't the devs quit when they realized they worked for Mojang?
pulsar wigeon
they didn't work for mojang
they worked for a free open source project
which....happened to be owned for mojang
fast solstice
"when mojang hired the bukkit devs and (secretly)......"
pulsar wigeon
most of the drama was because they didn't work for mojang
mojang was just getting free work from them
i mean, other bukkit devs
not the ones actually hired (DB etc)
talking about amaranth, wolv, feild, etc... all the big contributors at the time who were keeping bukkit running after DB, grum, ES, etc went to mojang
fast solstice
I get that you know whats what in and out. But for someone new to all this like me, you gotta admit, Bukkits history and current state IS confusing :P
pulsar wigeon
yea it helps if you were here the whole time
tropic flame
Lmao I was here in 2015 and I remember downloading jars from like Yivesmirror and such because I didn't have patience for BuildTools
And then I found Paper
pulsar wigeon
yea that's like recent history in the grand scheme of things 🙃
fast solstice
That was actually one of my main reasons to switch from Spigot to Paper
Get rid of the buildtools :P
tropic flame
Lmao, I remember I only started using Paper when AquiferMC appeared
I'd get the github repo on my Google searches but I'd think like "ok, if they don't have a website for the project then they might just be a random fork that might die soon"
Then when I realized it was here to stay I switched
Around 1.9-1.10
Haven't looked back for my private server
void void
i remember seeing my fav yts server using paper 1.11.2
and then on server pro i saw it had paper so i made the switch
tropic flame
That's fun, unfortunately the portuguese community of minecraft YouTubers essentially died around 2014-2015
tropic flame
They all started playing different games and in 2016 they started doing these weird vlogs
void void
lol
tropic flame
So all the videos I've watched of mc were old, about mods and whatever
limber knotBOT
what's up guys today we're going to melt a minecraft server with a 10000 degree knife but FIRST, SMASH that LIKE button
void void
but daily vids werent obvi enough
i c ur using irc like me rn
(its open just not using)
heady spear
@finite wave anyway, that was kinda fun
heady spear
hahah same
finite wave
Savage
sage vessel
I'm updating my server to 1.14.3 and I got this exception InsertMyEventHere may only be triggered synchronously.
What causes the server to trigger that exception? How can I make the server allow that event to be triggered async?
golden gust
That means that you're firing events off which are not marked as async (Check the constructor for Event, there is a boolean there)
finite wave
Well, why do you need it async?
finite wave
Why u need async
finite wave
Why is it triggered there? What is the event
sage vessel
It is a event I made
finite wave
Cool
sage vessel
It is triggered there to allow external plugins to add tags to players
but it seems like Bukkit 1.14 added some async checks to events, that's why it was throwing exceptions
wet iris
sounds like Tag function from CMI
finite wave
Sounds annoying
wet iris
Yes! Nobody use it on my server 😄
sage vessel
It is this https://github.com/PerfectDreams/DreamChat/blob/master/src/main/kotlin/net/perfectdreams/dreamchat/events/ApplyPlayerTagsEvent.kt#L8 But I already fixed it thanks to electroniccat 
finite wave
This doesn’t feel very safe to me whatever
sage vessel
Did MC change how playSound works? My old 1.13 code that only played sound near a certain location is now playing to everyone no matter the volume 
jovial orbit
oblique dragon
Any suggestions for a good anti xray plugin ?
oblique dragon
only up to 1.13.2 :/
limber knotBOT
:/
finite wave
@sage vessel Meh
sage vessel
this code
for (player in world.getPlayers()) {
player.playSound(Location(world, 526.5, 65.0, 257.5), "perfectdreams.sfx.jj3_shop", 3f, 1f)
}
Looks like no matter how far away you are, you still hear the song
worn ember
@sage vessel once it gets in your head theres no escaping it
vague nebula
u preffer essentialsx or cmi?
golden gust
If EssX does what you need for free 🤷
bold dune
limber knotBOT
welcome
pulsar wigeon
that's retard logic
tropic flame
that's not true
golden gust
General gist is that plugins like CMI and essentials are loaded with dozens of features, a lof ot them you're probably not even going to use
tropic flame
the rule that I usually follow is Free AND Open Source > Premium
golden gust
The only real advantage of CMI is that they might have spent more time making it prettier or something, but most of what paid plugins can do can often easilly be replaced with free ones
tropic flame
electroniccat, on the other side you probably won't find a million other plugins for each command of Essentials :P
pulsar wigeon
that's called marketing
"I'd rather eat out of the trash can because throwing a frozen pizza in the oven is hard"
:^)
ur a trash can 🚮
vague nebula
so if 5 plugins can replace cmi then what about performance. its the same?
golden gust
performance and plugin count are unreleated
pulsar wigeon
why don't you just donate if you're so adamant about it
tropic flame
"hey make your resource paid" since when is this question even made
limber knotBOT
prob never lol
vague nebula
ayyy
tropic flame
FOSS > *
vague nebula
i just want to create good server
tropic flame
no FOSS, no deal
golden gust
People actually do state to devs that their plugins are premium worthy
tropic flame
well yeah I know that
limber knotBOT
rlly? :o
golden gust
The mentality of a fair amount of those people is highly questionable, however
tropic flame
I've just never seen someone just straight up saying "hey make ur resource paid plz"
golden gust
Yes
limber knotBOT
I <3 free things
vague nebula
i saw
tropic flame
but like, people saying like "hey I can't believe your resource is free! thanks" is alright
limber knotBOT
ye
pulsar wigeon
also WAIT WAHT TEH FCUK BARTY
YOU LEAE MY FUCKING TOWN ALONE
that cost me 50k barty bucks
wtf
i'm too poor to remake it
tropic flame
bartybucks
limber knotBOT
rip wiz
pulsar wigeon
i mean he tells me they're not called barty bucks
limber knotBOT
yes
pulsar wigeon
but i'm on to him
tropic flame
god I don't like this new CurseForge, the old one allowed you to sort the mods' files by versions
limber knotBOT
:o
amazing
tho new theme looks like they tried to create a modern look
they sorta achieved it but its not what it "should" be
sage vessel
@finite wave I mean, there is no difference between what I did and that method 
I can change it, but I doubt it will work
limber knotBOT
omfg reminds me when Zehrs updated their machines at grocery stores to have only simplified symbols
pulsar wigeon
well, while that issue title is 🚮 there is some constructive criticism in the comments
limber knotBOT
ye
finite wave
@sage vessel less code
limber knotBOT
or have option to revert to old theme
lol complaint #4
all japanese comments are spam
priceless
LOL
finally they found a way to filter out the weebs
wow
rude
not u but CurseForge
pulsar wigeon
that's pretty rude
limber knotBOT
:o
sage vessel
@finite wave I actually remember why I did it like that, sending a lot of Play Sound packets makes the client stop all sounds
limber knotBOT
rip Japanese people
sage vessel
So I added a distance check to avoid that issue
limber knotBOT
on curse
sage vessel
Well, in 1.7.2 it worked like that
I never bothered rechecking if that still happened so that's why I never changed to World.playSound
worn ember
if i made a botnet to ddos cancer to cure it, would it be legal?
pulsar wigeon
🎣
wide chasm
Just keep throwing stuff upwards until you hit a method that's invoked via reflection.
pulsar wigeon
it will keep going up unless they catch invocationtargetexception tho
and heck, they might just rethrow the unwrapped exception
perfectly valid
peak dirge
just catch Throwable lol
fallen oracle
Throw in the enable, catch in the disable.
finite wave
Huh
pulsar wigeon
sneakythrow is retarded honestly
fast solstice
Glare
pulsar wigeon
when i first saw it in acf a few months ago i was like "what is this new magic"
...it's literally just throwing an unchecked exception, but using a generic method to help you do it even easier!!!!
finite wave
“New”
worn ember
oh thats why i'm still on J7
wide chasm
smh
finite wave
It wouldn’t surprise me if he is
heady spear
what is going on in here
limber knotBOT
you kids and your newfangled java versions
proper oriole
limber knotBOT
back in my day the installer said java was only running on 3 million devices
finite wave
I see
worn ember
whats it on now?
fast solstice
I can remember that
limber knotBOT
3 billion devices
worn ember
uh
orchid pelican
Lol
fast solstice
It was quite big as well, if i remember correctly
The text, like font-size 30 or similar
Priding the entire installer
idle rune
worn ember
idk what OSS means so im just going to ignore it
void void
How come 1.14.3 Paper wasn't announced?
finite wave
Idiot
fallen oracle
Open Source Software
worn ember
whos the idiot now
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Population: city population | 76307 people (country rank: 40th) (2004 estimate) - https://is.gd/OZECQN
finite wave
I see
pulsar wigeon
LUL
orchid pelican
Technically java is running on every cellphone in the world. (Javacard)
finite wave
.wolfram java devices
orchid pelican
Your SIM card runs java
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) No results.
finite wave
.wolfram how many java
orchid pelican
There called javacard apps
golden gust
.3 was announced on twitter, but nothing in discord, there are also known issues with .3, so \o/
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) No results.
finite wave
.wolfram java many how
worn ember
wolfram isnt google
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) No results.
finite wave
.g How many devices run java?
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/31bzkh/3_billion_devices_run_java/ -- 3 Billion Devices "Run" Java : ProgrammerHumor: "The real humor here is how many people in this subreddit associate Java with shitty applets instead of server code, considering the ..."
oh hey I just discovered there's r34 for zombie pigmen
fantastic
brb getting some bleach
worn ember
you mean tissues?
orchid pelican
I don’t know if credit cards run java but they might (ones with the chip)
limber knotBOT
the worst part isn't even the pus, it's the 3 pairs of boobs
sage vessel
Looks like /playsound is broken in 1.14
worn ember
its a feature
void void
Is that a bot or a user?
spiral garden
^-^ how did you even find that
orchid pelican
@void void he’s connecting through irc
void void
oh
spiral garden
also remember rule34 - if it exists, there is material for it
orchid pelican
There’s a gateway or whatever they call it
worn ember
when IRC is so old younger people dont even know about it
spiral garden
back in the day mIRC was the real shit
and yes, most of my friends have no idea what this "IRC" thing is
worn ember
honestly, i'm 21 and i never used to use IRC xD
orchid pelican
I’m not even out of high school and I know what it is. Shame on you!
limber knotBOT
eat glass jan
pulsar wigeon
i like that one kashike
it's like telling someone to kill themselves, but not quite
:^)
worn ember
depends what kind of glass
limber knotBOT
the glass kind
orchid pelican
Where is kashikes setup
worn ember
ah yeah that would definitely kill you
finite wave
kashike i tagged you on purpose
worn ember
god i hate that app
pulsar wigeon
how do you declare variable's type as a function in python
spiral garden
i feel that the desktop experience for FB messaging is crippled on purpose
finite wave
Woops i tagged wiz
spiral garden
for example I can't set a reminder on desktop, have to do it from my phone
cosmic raft
I'm in bed right now so no new one right now
golden gust
tosses a lit match on kash's bed
fallen oracle
Kinky.
heady spear
please don't kill kashike
golden gust
I can't make any promises
heady spear
😦
finite wave
.lart @golden gust
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) I can't attack that.
golden gust
That's animal abuse! w0w!
finite wave
.lart electroniccat
limber knotBOT
lets a few creepers into electroniccat's house.
cosmic raft
.flirt Cityweebstret
limber knotBOT
Cityweebstret, You still use Internet Explorer? You must like it nice and slow.
finite wave
Gmm
heady spear
Ohhhhh
cosmic raft
.kill Jan
limber knotBOT
rips Jan's intestines and uses them as a skipping rope.
heady spear
^now that's hot
tropic flame
.kill .kill
limber knotBOT
glares at .kill until they die of boredom.
tropic flame
now he boredead 😂 👌 💯 🔥 😱 ✊ 😤
cosmic raft
.flirt kashike
limber knotBOT
kashike, Did you go to bed early last night? From the looks of it, you got your beauty sleep.
tropic flame
... that's actually a good one
fallen oracle
When you have to have a bot flirt with yourself becuase you are so lonely.
limber knotBOT
kashike, If I had a star for every time you brightened my day, I'd have a galaxy in my hand.
golden gust
hops over to IRC to run /clear in his cafebabe dms
limber knotBOT
electroniccat, Did you sit in a pile of sugar? Cause you have a pretty sweet ass.
finite wave
.lart kashike
limber knotBOT
puts 'alias vim=emacs' in kashike's /etc/profile.
tropic flame
.flirt md_5
limber knotBOT
md_5, I must be using Apple maps, because I keep getting lost in your eyes.
finite wave
.kill kashike
limber knotBOT
grabs kashike's head and rips it clean off their body.
finite wave
Good enough
cosmic raft
that's rude
fallen oracle
Gets him in bed and kills him.
finite wave
.lart kashike
limber knotBOT
gives kashike's phone number to Borg.
finite wave
.flirt kashike
limber knotBOT
kashike, Hey, how 'bout I take off your cover and insert a bigger CPU.
finite wave
Hmm