Jeb is a Rudbeck alumnus so he can do no wrong
#general
heady spear
woven otter
well you can sell all kinds of shit
heady spear
Everyone that has ever graduated from there is a genius
limber knotBOT
I know it isn't barty
they still hold the title tho
did you guys know that notch is part of mensa?
woven otter
part of what
heady spear
If you graduated from rudbeck, örebro, you clearly know your game mechanics
limber knotBOT
so hes like a certified genius
heady spear
Jeb is like God tier
limber knotBOT
"Mensa is the largest and oldest high IQ society in the world"
heady spear
Because he graduated from rudbeck
limber knotBOT
takes all of three seconds on twitter to see that Notch has ascended to a new level
heavy rapids
just read notch's twitter and you'll know notch is more like a glorified nerd / conspiracy theorist
limber knotBOT
lol
heady spear
Guys can we all agree Jeb is really smart
heady spear
And has a great education
heavy rapids
no thanks I don't eat lard. :)
limber knotBOT
please
heavy rapids
:D
limber knotBOT
it's the finest bacon
heavy rapids
meh
heady spear
Jeb graduated from the top high school in Sweden
Only really smart people went there
sudden spade
any plugins to help with performance
heady spear
Inspired many highly successful people
heavy rapids
^ lmao
limber knotBOT
who was your wrangler weeb
heavy rapids
it can't be full of yards, it's in europe, so it'd be full of metres.
heady spear
The king officially opened it in 1905
woven otter
jeb is smarter than u city
limber knotBOT
how do you sleep with yourself at night korea
heady spear
Shut up
woven otter
how do you like that fact
heady spear
We have to apply to our high schools
heavy rapids
I've traded in my ability to sleep for top notch dad jokes with the devil.
heady spear
So they kind of are lol
limber knotBOT
the king officially opened my uni in like 1400 and I only wish someone would shut it down already
heady spear
You apply to high school using the scores from standardized tests :3
woven otter
shut up
limber knotBOT
also be real higher education isn't an indicator of intelligence either
if we go by most of my classmates
barely
uni was such a waste of time
I need the paper
so I can get another paper
heavy rapids
[17:18] Cityweebstret: And rudbeck is clearly the best high school in the county
In the land of blind people, the one-eyed person is king :>
limber knotBOT
only did it because I want that paper
ye
that says I can write good
and now I get more money just because of that paper
heady spear
limber knotBOT
and know english
acoustic pilot
it's a certification of intelligence, which can be useful i suppose, but often experience is a more desirable qualifier
limber knotBOT
fascinating stuff
heady spear
This place consistently has the highest entry requirements
limber knotBOT
that's good because I've been working in the field of my master's degree since I started my bachelor's...
heady spear
Only for the brightest
heavy rapids
I graduated from university in may so I'm glad I don't have to care for my major anymore ^o^
heavy rapids
lol
limber knotBOT
I'd almost rather fail at this point just so I don't have to deal with it anymore
heavy rapids
yeah, after writing my thesis I was so totally done with all that noise
heady spear
Mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology, Swedish, English, a third language, history and economics =3333
limber knotBOT
unfortunately that would take more effort than passing it
swedish? isn't that made up
heavy rapids
bird language?
heady spear
All of those go into the score that determine whether you’re god tier like jeb
heavy rapids
so city, in your opinion one must be able to speak swedish to be god tier? :P
heavy rapids
oof
heady spear
If you don’t speak Swedish you’re dumb
limber knotBOT
I'll just wait until russia conquers sweden
heavy rapids
where's the difference
stiff yarrow
@acoustic pilot I think saying its a certification for being educated in a particular thing may be more apt
limber knotBOT
that way I can learn russian instead
heady spear
Norwegian has two written versions which is like really dumb
golden gust
City är en hora
heady spear
Swedish kinda does too tho, Arabic and Swedish
limber knotBOT
swedish exists which is like really dumb
heady spear
That is true, I am a whore
I went into the family business
Fun fact my mom actually was a prostitute for a while lol
limber knotBOT
paying for whores does not make you a whore
pulsar wigeon
nice, 1.14.3pre4 didn't break any of the mapping i care about
golden gust
Lol, I went to go double check that on translate, clicking the switch button twice ended up with höra
heady spear
I’m 14
heavy rapids
wait really
heavy rapids
I would've guessed the majority of people here were like what, in their mid-twenties? 🤔
stiff yarrow
30 life 
limber knotBOT
maybe 14
meanwhile my uni colleagues keep accusing me of being 30+
I resent that
boys how old am I
you say the pics
frosty cypress
golden gust
I wanna say 80, but "80 and still thinks he's cool because hair dye"
heady spear
Ok jk I’m 16
frosty cypress
Anyone willing to help me setup some plugins, I'm new to servers and have no clue how to make everything compatible
heavy rapids
but thankfully I noticed during my bachelor's thesis how it all sucked
so I didn't make that mistake.
lavish zealot
heavy rapids
BeanGato, is this for free or do you pay an hourly rate
limber knotBOT
that's what causes it btw
the "people getting masters at an old age" thing
people burn out in the bachelor's
don't want to follow up
until later when they realize the benefits
I have to or else I can't get my ISO cert
frosty cypress
I wasn't planning on paying
heavy rapids
that might actually be the case ^-^ (how can I call you, that name sucks)
heady spear
How many years is a bachelors in the US?
limber knotBOT
I literally am only doing it for my ISO cert for the business I already own
heavy rapids
I have a three-year bachelor with thesis
that has to be enough for me.
like I couldn't care less if my salary is $30k or $40k
it's more than the $0 rn
germany
limber knotBOT
I want my money back korea
heavy rapids
advertise for what
limber knotBOT
KOREA you dummas
pulsar wigeon
lul
heavy rapids
oh
pulsar wigeon
german koreabo
heavy rapids
no, it's actually a play of words on north korea
limber knotBOT
fuckin koreaboos
pulsar wigeon
tbh i should keep my mouth shut
heavy rapids
in german that's Nordkorea which sounds very similar to LordKorea
pulsar wigeon
listening to kpop rn lul
limber knotBOT
koreaboos reeeeeeeeeeeee
heavy rapids
hey \^-^ how do I call you anyways
limber knotBOT
phonetically
pulsar wigeon
call him retard
heavy rapids
ok mr face
heady spear
Most people here get masters degrees, unless they’re going into teaching and/or economics in which case it’s 4 years
limber knotBOT
sure thing koreaboo
heady spear
You get paid a lot less as an engineer without a masters
So those two extra years make a lot of sense
It’s not like you lose anything either
heavy rapids
barty, we have a lower cost of living
heady spear
As you study for free for 6 years
heavy rapids
also healthcare
heady spear
So, you’re kinda wasting free education by not staying for the two extra years
heavy rapids
I know people who live on $15k a year.
limber knotBOT
I'll take $150k a year instead please
heavy rapids
also we have no such thing as deductibles or copay
limber knotBOT
thank you
tardy lynx
I know people who live on £4k a year
heady spear
Free healthcare, free education, extreme taxes and very high cost of living
And low salaries
Yay I love socialist country land
limber knotBOT
(^-^) National Anthem of USSR - length 3m 45s - 470,690 likes, 22,758 dislikes (95.4%) - 50,635,549 views - rascrifice on 2008.05.04
heavy rapids
so I'll stay :P
heady spear
So, a third of what I make is free, the rest is student loans.
pulsar wigeon
i probably live off much less than $1500/month tbh
heavy rapids
me 2
pulsar wigeon
most of my income goes into savings
heady spear
We get around $500 a month for studying.
pulsar wigeon
yea
heady spear
But school is free, so the loans cover living expenses and shit like that
sudden spade
my cpu is screaming
heady spear
I could drop the loans and get through my masters without taking out a single dollar worth of loans
pulsar wigeon
i'd have to average out expenses like utilities, property tax, insurance, etc which only bill every 3 or 6 months
heavy rapids
[17:37] barty: Maybe alcohol $200 a month
what's that in gallons of beer
heady spear
But I want to keep my GPA really high, so I study a lot more and work a lot less
stiff yarrow
currently I only need about 1000 a month to pay my rent, food, misc bills, etc
stiff yarrow
@pulsar wigeon yep
pulsar wigeon
also tbf you're seriously rich off mcmmo now
stiff yarrow
"rich"
heady spear
I fucking wish I could live at home
pulsar wigeon
2k downloads in 5 months is a lot
heavy rapids
don't trash places you don't know
barty :^)
pulsar wigeon
at $15 ea
heady spear
Yes, the US definitely has better opportunities for educated people
stiff yarrow
I will agree with that
heady spear
Whereas our middle ground is a lot better
stiff yarrow
tbh living in your moms living room is pretty sick for acquiring wealth
heady spear
Wiz, we just don’t know how to monetise our shit. Imagine how much money you can make with a plugin monopoly lol
stiff yarrow
wasn't your monopoly from just a lack of competition
heady spear
I am pretty happy tho, because I need to have my thyroid removed and I’ve been on medical treatment for the last 5 years
It has cost me absolutely nothing
I also get paid for the time I have to spend in the hospital, when I’m unable to study and work
limber knotBOT
don't worry if you start nickel and diming mcmmo I'll just make a better mcmmo but free
stiff yarrow
if WE/WG were premium I don't even know if we could properly estimate how much money it would make
heady spear
Nossr, monopolies due to economies of scale is a thing
There used to be other big plot plugins but they’re all gone
heady spear
Poof, vanished.
stiff yarrow
@pulsar wigeon depends on how you went about it I suppose
woven otter
everyone would use FAWE then 
heady spear
Sweden is pretty great for wealthy people. We have no wealth tax, no inheritance tax, no property tax and no gift tax
stiff yarrow
yeah but let them whine
heady spear
If you’re already rich you’re gucci, you just can’t get rich
stiff yarrow
meanwhile you look like this IRLwhile they whine
heady spear
Our elders are poor tho
limber knotBOT
I gotta say inheritance tax always felt distinctly wrong to me
fam's dead, pay up
limber knotBOT
does it?
I mean the state is already getting a % of your shit either way
it's just a cash bonus when you die
heady spear
We have 33% income tax, then VAT and on top of that the employers have to pay nearly 30% on your salaries
limber knotBOT
you already pay taxes for owning land, building shit and virtually any transaction
heady spear
We also have special taxes for everything
A lot of people end up paying upwards of 60% before VAT
acoustic pilot
Middle class effective tax rate is roughly ~20-25% in the US
worn ember
@stiff yarrow teach me your skills so i can get the cash flowing and break the kids their bank account
its very important 👀
limber knotBOT
I mean that's a flawed way of seeing billionaires barty sure but you realize this is a tax that applies to everyone right
acoustic pilot
So by comparison it's not so bad
worn ember
taxes on rich people are higher
acoustic pilot
Plus sales tax in states
cedar spade
but muh open source
heady spear
Our VAT being extremely high is a problem, because we don’t have any disposable income to begin with
Byte, we pay 30% on money that has already been taxed once lol
worn ember
if you want to make ez cash, just get into real estate
stiff yarrow
@worn ember start up a P2W skyblock server
heady spear
That’s in a low bracket
worn ember
man thats so mainstraim and boring xD
i'd get bored before i even finish setting it up
acoustic pilot
@heady spear yeah but free healthcare, higher education and unemployment allowances right?
stiff yarrow
what is an unemployment allowance?
worn ember
but yeah i might get into hosting again
cedar spade
30%!
limber knotBOT
lol I pay over 65% of my business' income in taxes before it makes its way to my bank account
cedar spade
I thought 20% was bad here
limber knotBOT
and I do not get healthcare for it
worn ember
about 50% here after all deductions
stiff yarrow
@heady spear how much of your yearly income would be lost to taxes if you work?
heady spear
Union power has driven effective minimum wages up by a lot
acoustic pilot
as long as you can comfortably afford a middle-class standard of living... sounds nice
limber knotBOT
I don't even know the real % because there's always some bs additional tax that sneaks in every time I try to actually get a real number
I pay more in taxes than the pharmaceutical companies
because they pay 0 :D
now that's a deal!
worn ember
dont need to pay taxes if the goverment doesnt know you exist 🤔
acoustic pilot
you got no bank accounts or no paper money flow? 😛
heady spear
So an average wage of 36k SEK a month in Stockholm would mean you pay a total of 19k on taxes
limber knotBOT
can't do legit business if you're not registered when you're a translation firm
worn ember
@acoustic pilot well the total sum of those bank accounts is like 7euro... so not really
heady spear
So 52%
limber knotBOT
people don't want to get their confidential documents translated by unregistered untraceable randos
heady spear
But that’s after the employers have paid their part of the tax
stiff yarrow
52% 
acoustic pilot
yeah but can you live comfortably off that
tardy lynx
How's performance on 1.14?
acoustic pilot
is it good relative to the cost of living there
heady spear
Before that the employer would have paid 11k
cedar spade
Performance on 1.14 is awful relative to the cost of living there
heady spear
So a total tax rate of 60%
worn ember
what did it cost?
CPU running at 100%: Everything
heady spear
This is in Stockholm, so cost of living is pretty damn high
cedar spade
"100% CPU"
upper flicker
screams in overheating cpu
worn ember
screams in boiling water cooler
limber knotBOT
still less than what I pay weeb
heady spear
Then 25% VAT on everything but food and shit, which is 12%
worn ember
curse or spigot for making $$$
worn ember
food are essentials
limber knotBOT
oh fun fact the gvt here loves taxing soda
worn ember
well some
heady spear
When I worked as a contractor the 60% would be for the salary, then there’s company taxes and whatnot upon that
worn ember
lol same here
limber knotBOT
1 liter of coke zero is 1 euro 40 cents at this stage
heady spear
So you can’t really compare your company tax rate to a personal effective tax rate
worn ember
and cigarettes
limber knotBOT
that's $1.58 for 1l
worn ember
"its unhealthy so we tax it more"
acoustic pilot
Highest sales tax you'd see in the US is probably like 8%, avg income is prob like 40k, effective tax rate around 20%. A lot of take-home money compared to Sweden 😄
worn ember
reasoning 101
stiff yarrow
@acoustic pilot some places in washington have a 10% sales tax
woven otter
@worn ember both
worn ember
@woven otter what both
acoustic pilot
15% lower than SF still sounds really damn high lol
if we're talking things like rent
heady spear
It just said consumer costs lol
woven otter
@worn ember curse and spigot
heady spear
But yeah we don’t have a lot of purchasing power
acoustic pilot
oh well consumer goods won't vary much across the state in general
heady spear
Then again, we do get at least one month off from work each year
worn ember
cuz i have the power of anime on my side
heady spear
A lot of paid time off as new parents
acoustic pilot
it'll be mostly a state tax, but i guess there would be a city tax too, maybe SF has a heavy sales tax
stiff yarrow
lose half your income but everyone in your country is smart and healthy
acoustic pilot
there's probably way less poverty in sweden
heady spear
You can legally take a 6 month break from your work to start a new company
acoustic pilot
i mean homeless, really. im sure people are poor
heady spear
You can’t fire people randomly, you may only fire the last person that was hired during downsizing
worn ember
that sounds like hell
acoustic pilot
sounds like they have strong worker's rights
heady spear
We don’t have any measurable absolute poverty lol
acoustic pilot
what's not to like about that 😄
acoustic pilot
that's awesome
stiff yarrow
how many homeless do you see
heady spear
Free universal healthcare
woven otter
@heady spear lol I read it as un-ionized and was confused for a bit
acoustic pilot
our government and its corporate overlords are busy trying to convince our population that unions are bad
worn ember
i think they live somewhere else lmfao
heady spear
Free education and healthcare are two kinda important topics for me personally because without them I couldn’t go through with my degree, nor my surgery
acoustic pilot
There's homeless dudes everywhere in US cities
heady spear
So I kinda appreciate that
worn ember
its been a while since i saw a homeless dude too. Depends where you go really
stiff yarrow
homeless people can be seen regularly in oregon no matter what city or town
heady spear
You get several months of guaranteed leave if you have a kiddo lel
Paid**
Also if you’re sick
Or if you lose your job
worn ember
same here
acoustic pilot
Yeah homelessness and NYC is almost an iconic combination.
heady spear
So, I mean, working here isn’t really that bad
worn ember
my mom almost died a few years ago and she was still paid for 6 months from her employer then health assurance and now she works 4/5th
heady spear
Our higher paying jobs just pay less than they would in the US
heady spear
Our lower waged jobs pay a lot more tho
worn ember
Europe really aint that bad
heady spear
When I go in for my surgery I’ll get paid for my time off from school lol
On top of the money I get for attending uni
stiff yarrow
getting paid to go to school 
worn ember
wish i got paid for school tho
heady spear
Also the fact that we can work in all other eu countries if we feel like it
acoustic pilot
They take a lot more of your money but it goes to social safety nets to make sure nobody is homeless and everyone can eat and has a roof, good healthcare and I assume free education for more people. It's just wealth redistribution designed to impact the most people in the most positive way.
heady spear
And travel throughout eu however we want, etc
stiff yarrow
if school was free I'd be going to school right now
snow fossil
worn ember
@acoustic pilot almost sounds like communism
heady spear
You can get all the ay from preschool to a masters degree without paying a single dollar here
worn ember
USSR will rise again
acoustic pilot
Since capitalism is incompatible with socialism
And Sweden has a capitalist economy.
heady spear
We did have a more right leaning government for a while so some of our healthcare and schools went private
worn ember
Sweden has @heady spear though, that'll be their downfall
worn ember
belgium is going straight right lmfao
worn ember
but we have the "cordone sanitaire" that prevents parties from forming fractions with extreme right
cuz who cares about what we vote right?
heady spear
And then we sold our postal service
And now no one gets their mail anymore
Capitalism broke Sweden tbh
heady spear
We did
Everyone got may because they stole our jobs
But instead of putting up a wall we just magically created new jobs
worn ember
yeah, they "steal" the jobs no one wants 👀
heady spear
And creating those jobs created new jobs because we needed someone to manage those jobs
stiff yarrow
what do you mean you don't get mail?
worn ember
email traffic is blocked duh
stiff yarrow
that doesn't sound abnormal so far
heady spear
Ever since we outsourced our postal service to Denmark lol
worn ember
sounds pretty normal to me
heady spear
We’re not happy about it
They made an official statement saying that there’s too much job required to deliver all the mail
worn ember
and if you call them "oh its not my fault, its someone else" and you spend 2 days going through the different delivery systems to get ur mail back
stiff yarrow
worn ember
great stuff
heady spear
So they were going to deliver less of it
So our government decided to send everything via online mailboxes instead
worn ember
smart move tbh
heady spear
Ye we don’t use paper for shit anymore
worn ember
wish my goverment would stop sending me letters
wide chasm
Does online ordering still work fine, or is that also supposed to be handled by the postal organization?
heady spear
All bills are sent online too
Some packages don’t get delivered
They end up in limbo
wide chasm
Oof
heady spear
We are all collectively upset about it
wide chasm
I stopped going to stores tbh, I just order stuff online and let them deliver it to me.
heady spear
Also, a tenth of the country joined a Facebook group where they circlejerk over how sad they are because of our insane gas prices
S w e d e n
But also realize that a tenth of our population is like 5 people and a moose
Other quirks about Sweden is that we basically don’t use cash ever, all medical stuff is handled via an online service too
All of our education shit is centralized and handled online
Government mail is sent online
Our banks created a common verification system which is used in all transactions and stuff requiring human verification, so verifying your identity is handled online too
We r so technologically advanced :3
spiral garden
@worn ember wow racism to bulgarians
heady spear
But what barty said about our universities is true, our top ranking university rank 40th worldwide lol
spiral garden
/s
heady spear
Then again, they are free 🤷
spiral garden
i mean the post here is shit too, while I don't use it often enough to have had something lost, they do take their sweet time to deliver
heady spear
Although Karolinska does rank 14th worldwide in medical studies
spiral garden
also one time I waited like 20 mins in the post office to get my package found
wide chasm
I'm guessing you guys don't have same day delivery/one day delivery either? 😦
spiral garden
since some idiot had put my package in the wrong box (they sort them by boxes relating to the first name's first letter)
heady spear
Lol 4 days is fast delivery
That is if you live in a city
Otherwise a week is like god tier
wide chasm
Lol, every major company here has same day delivery.
spiral garden
if you want one-day delivery you use a third-party delivery service here
same-day delivery isn't really a thing unless you live in the capital
heady spear
wide chasm
Same day delivery is the same cost as every other day delivery here. For expensive stuff it's usually 5 EUR or something.
heady spear
Not all of our universities are shit tbh
I kinda wanna move away from here if I ever decide to actually pursue my doctorate tho because that’s extremely competitive here
Like extreeeeeemely
Depends, your top universities are definitely better
upper flicker
Not free though
heady spear
Not all of your universities are better lol
upper flicker
Not even fucking close
pulsar wigeon
yea that's a very blanket statement there barty
we have shitloads more of them
that's just how distributions work
upper flicker
You would need to define what constitutes better, what fields, what prices, and then somehow magically get access to all that data and study it
pulsar wigeon
pulsar wigeon
you didn't say in general
heady spear
We have some good ones, like karolinska for medication, the royal technical institute ranks decently as well
heady spear
Chalmers too, also Uppsala :p
pulsar wigeon
but then you'd still need to provide some holistic ranking scale
heady spear
Also, they are all 100% free for us so that definitely makes the degrees worth a lot more imo, considering... they free
pulsar wigeon
value is pretty high
heady spear
Our credits are transferable across most of Europe as well
pulsar wigeon
as a function of roi
heady spear
Loads of people get the bachelors here then transfer for their masters
I kinda wanna get my masters here so I don’t have to pay, then look at doctorate positions abroad
Because there’s like 1 open slot each year and you only get it if you’re a black Asian albino Caucasian woman from gay straight dead famous parents that are also cats
If you’re 4 but also have 46 years of work experience and 9 prior phds
strong socket
unreal quarry
fuck insurance companies. "your bike has taken too much damage, its a total loss. we'll pay you the market value of it minus the salvage title cost. so that's gonna be $300"
heady spear
Well yeah if you’ve used it it’s clearly worth nothing
You should pay them instead
Insurance is a fucking scam tbh
unreal quarry
Nope. My wife got her a lawyer for this, I'm getting my own now since it's my personal property. Insurance is supposed to put thing back the way they were, which in the case of my bike was mint condition.
unreal quarry
Sucks that you gotta lawyer up just to make things right, tho. Shitty world we live in :/
heady spear
Here it wouldn’t be worth it because you wouldn’t be able to cover the legal fees in the end either way
Our 3 year old car randomly set on fire and nothing was left of it, they gave us $2000 =)))
stiff yarrow
in murrica I believe its the same way, you win you can get legal fees paid
unreal quarry
Yeah, lawyer I use doesn't charge unless he wins. And when he wins he throws costs over to the other side to pay
heady spear
I guess there’s a lot of money to be made?
unreal quarry
I'm honestly in shock right.. $300 to fix/replace a motorcycle...
stiff yarrow
@heady spear potentially
heady spear
In general we don’t lawyer up for anything here
stiff yarrow
@unreal quarry what bike was it?
heady spear
It’s never worth it
unreal quarry
2017 Yamaha yzf-r3, was mint condition up until this
stiff yarrow
I'm not a bike guy, about how much would that bike be in condition like you had it?
heady spear
Less than 10% is pretty fucking shitty tbh
limber knotBOT
can someone pull https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/2140 ? would be quite useful to have this fixed
heady spear
So you’ve probably paid way more than that in insurance costs during the time you’ve owned it?
unreal quarry
It's not my insurance. It's the other guy that hit the bike. He admitted fault finally after learning the whole thing was caught on gopro
Now his insurance is trying to minimize loss
heady spear
Oh, right, that’s how it works for you people
The US is consistently confusing me. Nothing makes any sense.
woven otter
is it worth it to implement something api related for grindstones, for example, or should I just wait for spigot to implement something like that
unreal quarry
How is that confusing? The person at fault's insurance pays for it. Pretty simple.
heady spear
Here your own insurance would cover those costs
Or well, you can also demand for their insurance to cover if it you have sufficient evidence. But in most cases you don’t do that, you only make a claim to your own insurance
They may then forward it, but you wouldn’t know. The biggest benefit of making the claim vis their insurance company is that you don’t have to pay anything yourself
unreal quarry
probably does here, too. but i only carry liability insurance. basically means my own insurance doesnt cover me or my property, only damages to others that I do.
heady spear
That sucks :/
unreal quarry
brb, tho. lawyer already doing good. got insurance company to contact us saying we can have it looked at by my own mechanic instead of going by their appraiser. gonna take it up to my dealer now. o/
heady spear
We would only really escalate it to an external claim if it was total destruction to a company, or if the other party caused damage to public property etc
That’s bueno, good luck :p
finite wave
City u weird
finite wave
We are lucky no healthcare insurance for us
heady spear
If we don’t have any insurance at all, we won’t be able to make any claims but we still wouldn’t pay anything
Because there’s a public fund for uninsured vehicles
heady spear
We need insurance in order to rent property, that’s the only required insurance here iirc
finite wave
We don’t really need a lot of insurances to get by, but we get them for insurance either way
heady spear
Ew hallon är den enda ok saften
heady spear
I have my apartment insured, which is a legal requirement. The school also has me insured which is cool, I guess
The only healthcare related cost that isn’t covered for us is dental care, so you need dental insurance if you’re older than 25
finite wave
Same, but we only get up till 18 for free
heady spear
Then there’s a union cost, to keep you insured in the case you’re unable to work
That’s it, I think
No health insurance or none of that Jazz
finite wave
Well, pretty much the same here i guess
heady spear
Also, my union cost is like $20 a year while I’m studying lol
finite wave
Hehe idk yet
heady spear
They will also negotiate your salary for you, and help you write your resume
finite wave
Am 18 next month first
heady spear
Wow adulting
finite wave
Yes annoying
heady spear
I’ve been in the union since I was 16 :p
finite wave
I probably am in some stuff, but that’s my dads doing
heady spear
All of our salaries are union negotiated so you pretty much have to, or you have zero control
finite wave
Saame
heady spear
Even sex work is union controlled lol
heady spear
Lol what
pulsar wigeon
wait what's your job city
heady spear
I joined the union when I worked as a lifeguard in high school, but now I do contracting work for local firms and shit
finite wave
Hackerman
heady spear
I also work for my friend in New Zealand sometimes
Although rarely because doing the taxes for that is confusing and tax evasion has like a 900 year long prison sentence in Sweden
heady spear
I mean sure
My brother owns the most random firm, they rent our limousines, do revision work and drive trucks for grocery stores
So I’ve done a decent chunk of work for him
finite wave
Weird
heady spear
Working as an independent contractor is a pita tho
finite wave
Hm
heady spear
Oh and yes I did work in a grocery store during high school lol
I stocked shelves for a couple of months =))
finite wave
Haven’t we all
heady spear
I also worked in retail for a bit, basically sorting jeans lel
I am thinking of joining the student union as a student representative, you get a decent amount of money and you get to attend meetings with the university board
The disciplinary board would be dope, then I get to help punish cheaters =3
woven otter
or you're just power hungry
heady spear
I say we resort to whipping and general public humiliation, followed by underwater crucifixion
Then we decapitate them for good measure
We don’t want none of that Jesus shit where they come back to life
Then we send them off into outer space
finite wave
ew
heady spear
Jan is like old man name
Although I guess it’s pretty rare on its own, it’s often like Karl-Jan or shit
Jan-Olof
Also how weird is it that we Scandinavians fucking decide to give our kids two first names?
Like not including middle names
Eva-Lotta, Anne-Marie, etc
stiff yarrow
I don't know if I'd call it weird
limber knotBOT
I don't think you are unique with that, lots of countries allow that xD
limber knotBOT
names in general are weird: you can't choose them
heady spear
Wait that was correct
limber knotBOT
but so is getting born so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
heady spear
At least you can legally change your name
finite wave
Sex is strange too
heady spear
You can’t legally get unborn
limber knotBOT
well most countries don't have laws against suicide
finite wave
You can sue for birth can’t you in USA?
heady spear
We do :/
stiff yarrow
@finite wave you still have a first name in Japan, but your surname is just used much more often
heady spear
Suicide is illegal here.
limber knotBOT
@nossr50 that's just because they are more polite
heady spear
I mean yes but also illegal so don’t
acoustic pilot
dont kill urself or we gonna seize all ur assets and screw ur family!
limber knotBOT
nordic countries are the opposite, the use informal language a lot more often
heady spear
It’s mostly in the case that you don’t succeed, so they’re able to force you into mental care
Which is a good thing :p
limber knotBOT
I mean ofc a living guy would think someone who want's to be dead is insane! gotta hang with the undead instead! ;P
acoustic pilot
ppl still level in wow?
limber knotBOT
playing WoW
acoustic pilot
i thought they just p2w max level now 😄
limber knotBOT
what year is this? 2004?
acoustic pilot
phoenix616: WoW Classic releases in August, I'm gonna play 😄
limber knotBOT
you get two LVL80 when you buy GW2 xD
finite wave
Btw @stiff yarrow what is with the “four eyed” insult?
heady spear
10 levels off, could just as well be
stiff yarrow
that insult exists in English too jan
finite wave
Tell me
heady spear
Isn’t 4 eyed someone with glasses
limber knotBOT
@acoustic pilot last I heard it sucks as much as WoW did back then
limber knotBOT
all tehy did was update the graphic and left all the shitty stuff in
heady spear
Oh lol, we have that in Swedish so I didn’t know it translated
finite wave
It didn’t make sense to me
limber knotBOT
OMG I have bad eyesight due to gen-defects, what an insult!
acoustic pilot
More of a rollback to a state before the fuckery 😄
limber knotBOT
WoW is only fun on private servers with exp multiplactors! fite me!
heady spear
Wow vanilla private servers were really popular for a while
So people are clearly interested
pulsar wigeon
everyone's gonna be grinding out skeletons in duskwood and be pretending they like it so they don't have to admit they were clouded by nostalgia
woven otter
phoenix is right tbh
acoustic pilot
Yeah, Blizzard will obviously be able to drive a higher population
pulsar wigeon
also tbf the leveling experience is just one small part of it
heady spear
All of the emulators for vanilla are wonky tho, only 3.3.5 works decently
pulsar wigeon
i mean, more so in vanilla but
acoustic pilot
Private servers are what made WoW Classic even possible to begin with lol
limber knotBOT
played tbc with normal xp for a while, was pretty anoying to get anywhere if you didn't play 10h/d
stiff yarrow
@finite wave as I said that is just the translation, they are saying something else in Japanese, if you have an audio clip I can probably tell you what
heady spear
Anything other than wotlk has never gotten a stable emulator :p
TrinityCore also shifted focus during MoP and so even tc 3.3.5 kind sucks
Kinda***
The servers that did well mostly used private forks :/
pulsar wigeon
just like MC :^)
heady spear
That community used to be lit tho
pulsar wigeon
if you wanna do it well you gotta make a private fork and put money into it
heady spear
Ac-Web was really fucking nice, I miss that place
It’s still up but it’s just spam bots now lol
Yeah, I guess
https://github.com/TrinityCore/TrinityCore
There is still activity tho
32k commits lol
heady spear
There were some lit fire flame forks
One of the bigger ones added a lua scripting engine
And then suddenly everyone used lua
And we just pretended it was okay
So what sucks about trinity core is that you have to recompile the entire server whenever you want to mod it, which makes it a giant pita to use for non-developers, this meant that the people that ran servers generally have more knowledge than your average Minecraft server kiddo
pulsar wigeon
yea i was just fucking around on it with friends so it didn't bother me
heady spear
Also zero fucking documentation
The project is really cool and I can definitely appreciate it for what it is
100% reverse engineering and years of progress
wooden blade
Hey, at least they didn’t use JavaScript! 🏃
stiff yarrow
zero documentation
heady spear
But also the amount of money you could make from those servers
A server I moderated sold custom sword designs for hundreds of dollars, you could also spend money on weapons with custom stats and shit
100% pay to win
They made thousands every month
Then they randomly shutdown when blizzard decided to care, lol
Wth
tropic flame
lol tbh since I first started playing the only mod I've seen that is basically "one jar for all versions" is the XRay mod
heady spear
That file has been up since 2016
unreal quarry
dealer took 1 look at my bike and was like "yeah, its not totalled" lol
they going over it in detail right now, will call me later
heady spear
I didn’t even know the forge version still worked tbh so
How bad was the accident? <.<
tropic flame
tbh the name "XRay" became cursed in Minecraft, if you actually want to make a mod with like medical xray machines and so on you can't name it XRay anymore
maybe... "Medical XRays"
I guess that works
unreal quarry
not that bad, tbh, city.
tropic flame
call the bug police
heady spear
Oh, well it sucks that the insurance company are being dicks and that you have to go through all of this trouble tho
Why the fuck is everything so unnecessarily hard?
unreal quarry
pretty much the extent of the damage is it sliding on its side for about 10 feet
wooden blade
The problem with only having insurance that covers the damage you do, is that there will be people at fault who don’t have insurance
unreal quarry
the impact from the truck wasnt too hard, just hard enough to knock the bike out from under my wife, but no damage there
@wooden blade i know that one all too well. about 10 years ago I was the person that had no isurance and was at fault. but i am a good person and i paid everything out of pocket for them without escalating it
wide chasm
I think that's the reason why vehicle insurance is mandatory here.
unreal quarry
sad part is, even though i paid for all their stuff i still got slapped with huge fines for not having "proof of financial responsibility" (aka, insurance)
heady spear
We have the national insurance fund to cover codes where the damages can’t be paid
wooden blade
Well, that’s good, that you’re both okay, but I wouldn’t ride a bike because people do stupid stuff and you don’t have much protection
heady spear
Walking everywhere is a lot better imo
wooden blade
The majority of bad accidents involving bikes usually don’t end well for the riders
marble summit
Its more dangerous to drive in a car than it is to skydive
heady spear
I’m insured by uni on my way there and home so if I fall and scrape my knee they’ll cover it
sly spear
marble summit
I've been run over by another bicyclist a few years back when i was living in burbank coming home from a shopping center
heady spear
You know what’s even safer? Not moving at all
wooden blade
It’s more dangerous to ride in a car, when the driver is in possession of a cell phone. 😉
unreal quarry
bikes arent all that bad, tbh. you hear about all these bad accidents and people dying and stuff, but if you take a step back and look at the numbers its more comparable to car accidents than not.
marble summit
intellect 1000
heady spear
I teleport everywhere nowadays
marble summit
Anyways, Bikes & Walking are WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY like a billion times safer than being in a car
unreal quarry
fun fact: the #1 type of motorocycle accident is single vehicle accidents (rider dropping it in a turn)
marble summit
Already ahead of you
wooden blade
I send an MC SteveBot to fetch all my food. Just program in the Chopping list.
marble summit
/fly
heady spear
Don’t eat because then you might choke
wooden blade
Except when you go flying off your bike
marble summit
Steve send me diamond swords
unreal quarry
#2 type of accident is that of the squid (super quick until i die). squids give bikers a bad name :3
wooden blade
Squids these days, amirite?
heady spear
Just walk with the bike instead
marble summit
Splatoon time
heady spear
Then you’re ultra safe
limber knotBOT
Hey would anyone know why I would get an illegalstateexception for asynchronous entity world add when using the getChunkAtAsync method and/or how I can prevent it?
wooden blade
Yeah, don’t do it async?
heady spear
Don’t add the entity asynchronously
unreal quarry
squids are easy to spot. they are the ones that dont wear their protective gear and are often seen on 1 tire instead of 2, usually at high rates of speed causing havoc in their wake
wooden blade
I call those crotch rockets
heady spear
First option would be to not get it asynchronously, second would be to make a synchronous call once you have it
limber knotBOT
Well all I do is load the chunk async and then grab the chunk snapshot
heady spear
Third would be to like, idk, not
unreal quarry
yes, squids are keen to the crotch rocket types, but not all crotch rocket riders are squids (i own a crotch rocket)
limber knotBOT
I mean I have to calculate a couple trillion blocks so I'm not going to do that sync
I mean why not
yolo
heady spear
Freeze frame
unreal quarry
had mine for over a year now and only got on 1 tire once, by complete accident. i didnt think it had enough "oomph" to pop a wheelie, but i was wrong. ^_^
pulsar wigeon
lmao
heady spear
Do the calculations then add the entities synchronously when you’re done?
wooden blade
You’re just referring to riders who don’t use helmets though?
heady spear
There’s no way to safely add them asynchronously
You will get no no bad bad error if you do
I need to sleep my brain is doing the sleepy thing bye
limber knotBOT
Well I shouldn't be adding any entities whatsoever
limber knotBOT
I literally just load the chunk async then grab the chunksnapshot in the callback
pulsar wigeon
hasn't shown code
hasn't shown exception
🚮
wooden blade
Ah, to be youthful and ignorant.
limber knotBOT
that's all the code that's necessary
it does exactly what I described
that's what's strange, it really shouldn't be fucking with entities at all
pulsar wigeon
that code literally
tells us nothing
since you're calling another method
calling unload might be dum tho
idk about that api tho
limber knotBOT
well idk about unloading the chunk, that's not where the error occurs
pulsar wigeon
and you still haven't posted a stacktrace
limber knotBOT
It's a chunk snapshot, chunk snapshots are thread safe
unreal quarry
on the opposite side of the squid spectrum, you have the atgatt (all the gear all the time). this is where I mostly sit. sometimes i'll go without my jacket when its too hot, but everything else i wear ^_^
pulsar wigeon
so we have no way to know that
limber knotBOT
shttps://paste.md-5.net/kivekigixi.nginx
heady spear
wiz’s inability to read minds over the internet is very annoying
pulsar wigeon
1.8
unreal quarry
like, theres about 5 of us at my job that ride bikes. i'm the only one that wears my gear :3
wooden blade
Its the tinfoil hats
limber knotBOT
Nope, it exists in 1.8
pulsar wigeon
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Paper 1.13.1 - Async Chunk Loading / Generation - Beta : admincraft - 13 comments, 42 points - aikaradora, 9mo ago
pulsar wigeon
was it backported?
red halo
the api dont exist
pulsar wigeon
cuz pretty sure paper hasn't supported 1.8 in quite a while
limber knotBOT
Well I'm not sure but all I know is that it's been around, it's some patch that's in paper or taco
pulsar wigeon
lol
sturdy fulcrum
rip clip
heady spear
Why clip
pulsar wigeon
it's not paper
red halo
chunk snapshot != async chunks
limber knotBOT
0x22 I'm getting the chunk async using that method then grabbing the chunksnapshot
That's all I care about since I'm just getting the blocks and counting for value
pulsar wigeon
this is completely out of paper territory
limber knotBOT
Should have figured that, I'll try in tacospigot's irc or something
What's strange is that the spigot I use on my other server has no problems with it but maybe that's because it only has about 10,000 islands instead of 50,000 to calculate
thanks for the help anyways
pulsar wigeon
async chunk loading is definitely not in spigot
fallen oracle
Oh boy, looks like 1.14.3 still isn't an NMS change.
pulsar wigeon
so idk what the fuck you're smoking
heady spear
Where the fuck did clips message go
sturdy fulcrum
so am i getting banned
heady spear
I opened the link and now it’s gone
pulsar wigeon
limber knotBOT
I'm just talking about getting a chunk async and grabbing the snapshot, probably used the wrong words lol
pulsar wigeon
GETTING CHUNKS ASYNC IS ONLY POSSIBLE IN PAPER 1.13
is that clear enough
i feel like i'm not getting through here
mellow quiver
there's always a need for screaming
pulsar wigeon
THIS IS MY INDOOR VOICE
red halo
snapshots are thread safe
pulsar wigeon
0x22 you're fucking retarded
red halo
but psure they still block the thread when you create one
vestal jasper
I mean I've literally never considered going to md when it comes to reporting bugs / asking for features.
My first thought is to go to you guys 
wooden blade
Just tell md%, that it wasn’t you, it was the one armed clip that wrote that
heady spear
He can’t ban you for that lol
unreal quarry
he's banned people for less
vestal jasper
I'd infinitely prefer going to you guys for things than md and his staff
heady spear
Then I’ll go to Australia and like... pinch him?
wide chasm
Just create dummy accounts on jira and report issues with that.
sturdy fulcrum
we will see
wooden blade
Send a dingo army
mellow quiver
I think a little "this topic is not up for debate" will be an adequate reply in his mind
sturdy fulcrum
im not scared
if he bans me ill buy a plane ticket and woop his ass and take a pic
red halo
@pulsar wigeon learn to read the docs retard https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/ChunkSnapshot.html
heady spear
He has been pretty fucking unhelpful when it comes to our reported bugs so we just stopped reporting to him lol
limber knotBOT
lol
unreal quarry
it could go either way @sturdy fulcrum. you didn't say the word "paper" so you might be ok. if you would have said "paper" (even out of context) that would've done it
pulsar wigeon
0x22, we're not talking about snapshots
we're talking about "World#getChunkAtAsync"
that's not a snapshot method
wide chasm
"How would I give a player a stack of paper"
banned
sturdy fulcrum
man im sorry because i know im here and i support paper
but i do care about spigot
red halo
he is obv talking about snapshots
sturdy fulcrum
but hes an idiot
sturdy fulcrum
dont threaten people
red halo
but he thinks he is getting the chunk async but its not
limber knotBOT
I know that I'm getting the snapshot and not the chunk
wooden blade
Just pretend you’re Egyptian and call it Papyrus
heady spear
Wiz has the communication skills of a shoe
limber knotBOT
I just described my issue incorrectly from the start lol
sturdy fulcrum
fite me
unreal quarry
myoken, you cant create a snapshot off the main thread. that has to be done on the main thread. once you have the snapshot you can hand it off to another thread to work with it.
red halo
at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_8_R3.CraftWorld.getChunkAtAsync(CraftWorld.java:128)
wtf
heady spear
If clip gets banned then papi would be taken down right?
fallen oracle
Correct
unreal quarry
just move papi to paper
heady spear
Then clip can stop rubbing it in my face that papi is number one on bstats
limber knotBOT
Billy then why would it be that I've been able to get snapshots off the main thread on another server running the same jar?
red halo
anyways you can only get it on the main thread
unreal quarry
\o/
heady spear
Absolute win.
wide chasm
Do they take down your plugins on ban?
fallen oracle
I mean the number wouldn't change.
wide chasm
I thought they just left them up.
heady spear
Shut up glare don’t bring logic into this
limber knotBOT
InactiveResource?
sturdy fulcrum
we will just move the project to glares account
fallen oracle
^
unreal quarry
inb4 glare gets banned by association
heady spear
That’s rather gay
coarse urchin
Fucking prize to clip
heady spear
I’ll report glare for hacking
fallen oracle
I'm innocent, smh.
heady spear
No you’re not
You’re clearly friends with clip which means you’re planning a spigot uprising
fallen oracle
Sorry sir 😦
woven otter
that's abuse
fallen oracle
Does that mean he gets banned?
heady spear
I’ll take a good spanking over a ban but I’ll take whatever I can get tbh
Anything to feel something
vestal jasper
City
sturdy fulcrum
Rip clip
sturdy fulcrum
He’s gonna ban my ass
sturdy fulcrum
And I went pg13
heady spear
I need something physical
vestal jasper
Yes I have wtf
woven otter
city you have grindr though
heady spear
fallen oracle
Oh shit
acoustic pilot
u wot
heady spear
You’re really not funny
woven otter
why is spigot blue
vestal jasper
???
heady spear
You deserve to be banned for that dumb shit
wide chasm
If you donated to Spigot you can change the color of the site, so that's why it's blue.
heady spear
You can have the I-S account if you want 😛
wide chasm
Or it's just some extension for the browser
woven otter
oh why did you donate
fallen oracle
^
heady spear
I donated in 2014
unreal quarry
runs away
fallen oracle
Piggy made a really nice theme for it.
vestal jasper
2014 you was dumb city
sturdy fulcrum
Haven’t donated in a while
heady spear
You literally game me money Vic
You’re dumber than me
You donated money to me, I’ve never donated to me
vestal jasper
ok listen I got something out of that
what do you get out of the $5 you gave md
🤔
marble summit
Should i make public plugins after i finish my gamemode
heady spear
I gave him $30
wide chasm
You can't donate 5 dollar, minimum is 10.
vestal jasper
I should spank you more for that
fallen oracle
Auto Responders, name changes, etc.
pulsar wigeon
r u a mom
woven otter
citymomstret 😄
heady spear
Only to match my github name which also doesn’t make any sense
vestal jasper
city monster
woven otter
but the better question is why you use your typo as an username