Some of them can give it a run for its money
#general
unreal quarry
i havent seen any xeon keep up with my 5ghz i7 ๐
merry talon
well 5ghz is a different story
rose pier
@unreal quarry Which server is that? One at OVH?
And how many players etc does it handle before starting to struggle?
void void
the E-2136 out performs the 1270 v6
unreal quarry
i havent fully stretched her legs yet
just got it like a week ago
still setting things up (one man showing it sucks)
austere ivy
Billy.
rose pier
Nice.
austere ivy
๐ ๐
unreal quarry
i know its taking 1.14.1 like a champ so far
rose pier
Hah. I'm in the same situation.
austere ivy
Can we have a :clapclap: emoji?
unreal quarry
not sure yet. i'm just doing what my wife says
lol
she's in charge of this one
i'm the the geek behind the curtain making things work
rose pier
Haha okay.
austere ivy
So..
smoky tinsel
half ferry
wide chasm
What's the output supposed to be?
smoky tinsel
austere ivy
99 bottles of beer on the wall.
99 bottles of beer.
Take one down, pass it around.
98 bottles of beer on the wall.
rose pier
After subtracting 1 the number of bottles left is eventually 1. But it was 2, so word is still "bottles", though it should now be "bottle".
austere ivy
if (bottles == 1) {
bottle();
}
lol
You could just have the string built (or chosen) at the end depending on how many.
smoky tinsel
ohhh yeah you're right
wide chasm
Also, you can do beerNum--;
austere ivy
Also beerNum -= 1, rather than beerNum = beerNum - 1.
unreal quarry
or they can use a damn for loop
wide chasm
A for loop with beerNum-- though ๐
unreal quarry
or a do while loop
wide chasm
I can't remember the last time I've used them tbh.
rose pier
It has been... a while?
unreal quarry
lol
wide chasm
... Maybe...
austere ivy
Oh that wouldn't work.
Look.
They need to output something every time that they decrement, but AFTER the first iteration.
But before the next.
Could that be done with a do while?
wide chasm
Sure
wide chasm
If you use enough if statements anything can be done.
unreal quarry
for loop is best, tbh
would solve the problem of having to decrement it inside the loop at all
smoky tinsel
I think because it's only the first chapter they don't wanna confuse the reader
smoky tinsel
there's a chapter on loops later on
austere ivy
You could literally just do what I said, lol.
A bit hacky I guess since you're not actually changing the amount of beer on the wall.
wide chasm
Why are they using loops, if the chapter about loops is later in the book, course, whatever?
smoky tinsel
beginning is just introducing the concepts and then they elaborate further on
unreal quarry
wait.. did we just do brain's homework for him?
wide chasm
No mention of .forEach, I'm disappointed /s
unreal quarry
those are both for loops still ๐
wide chasm
I usually use JNI to call my Assembly code to use a bunch of jump if zero calls to create a loop.
unreal quarry
yup
unreal quarry
well, its got something that does the same thing
austere ivy
Labels?
unreal quarry
you can jump to a label
austere ivy
Yarr, matey.
wide chasm
You have break label.
And continue label, but only if the label labels a standard loop.
unreal quarry
Damn
austere ivy
Label labeling labels.
wide chasm
I've used both of them before, but it's not really something I want to use often.
austere ivy
๐
thorn finch
austere ivy
I'm an expert in that, actually.
wide chasm
I usually define a static variable, then nest x methods deep, which then throw some custom exception upwards and each catch clause increments the static variable.
vague ermine
austere ivy
public class Main() {
Main(int num) {
System.out.println(num + " bottles of beer on the wall.");
System.out.println(num + " bottles of beer");
System.out.println("Take one down, pass it around.");
System.out.println((num-1) + " bottles of beer on the wall.");
Main main = new Main(num-1);
}
public static void main(String[] args) {
Main main = new Main(99);
}
}
Is that even recursion?
austere ivy
Technically it's calling itself, so yeah.
wide chasm
Java's GC really loves you
unreal quarry
But that'll go negative
austere ivy
Yeah I anticipated that.
smoky tinsel
later on in the book
austere ivy
Booting up Intellij for testing is hard though >:(
wide chasm
Since you guys love loop,s take a look at the loops over here: https://esolangs.org/wiki/A0A0 They're truly special.
unreal quarry
That's almost as bad as brainfuck
wide chasm
This is worse.
Although I think I have some code for it lying around for finite loops.
unreal quarry
@void void you tried looking on the sites where they offer plugins? theres many of them
dev.bukkit.org spigotmc.org papermc.io/forums just to name a few
austere ivy
public class Main() {
Main(int num) {
String word;
if (num <= 0) {
System.out.println("No more bottles of beer on the wall.");
System.out.println("No more bottles of beer.");
System.out.println("Dadada, dadada, something something something beer on the wall.");
break;
}
if (num > 1) {
String word = "bottles";
} else if (num == 1) {
String word = "bottle";
}
System.out.println(num + " " + word + " of beer on the wall.");
System.out.println(num + " " + word + " bottles of beer");
System.out.println("Take one down, pass it around.");
System.out.println((num-1) + " " + word + " of beer on the wall.");
Main main = new Main(num-1);
}
public static void main(String[] args) {
Main main = new Main(99);
}
}
๐
austere ivy
OH I FORGOT THE BREAK
wide chasm
lol
austere ivy
There we go, now push to production :sipstea:
wide chasm
force push
austere ivy
reset head
wide chasm
Idk, I just let IntelliJ do my git stuff
austere ivy
Me too :(
I memorized this though:
git commit -m "Hello hello jello."
wait
before that, git stage --all
or -A I think
wide chasm
git add . or something
limber knotBOT
Always force push!
wide chasm
Reset head, force push to master, merge everything to master, no going back, this code is perfect!
limber knotBOT
Use the force guys!
wide chasm
Yesterday I was in a nightmare. GitHub couldn't merge for me and I had to use... the terminal shivers
wide chasm
No
austere ivy
Me neither.
It's missing a lot of features like..
CLICKING??
D
DO PEOPLE NOT USE MOUSES??
We're regressing as a society, I tell you.
limber knotBOT
Nano master race
austere ivy
HERETIC.
tardy lynx
45% cpu with 7 players on a raspberry pi
wide chasm
I just use Notepad++ and use JetBrains' IDEs for everything else.
limber knotBOT
running a server on a rpi
tardy lynx
Most of us are in the same area though
limber knotBOT
You like roasted berries? ๐
void void
So is there premade jobs?
limber knotBOT
notepad++
void void
What to searh
limber knotBOT
not vs code
wide chasm
It's just for changing a config.yml file, please don't hurt me.
austere ivy
I use TextEdit for everything like basic config.
VS Code for everything else and IntelliJ for Java.
tardy lynx
nano > notepad > intellij
acoustic pilot
I had a Sublime Text license from 2012 that I was able to upgrade last year
austere ivy
Actually come to think of it, what's nano?
acoustic pilot
So I just use that for all the basic editing
limber knotBOT
My watch has more cpu power, lol
unreal quarry
smoky tinsel
I so wish I had an actual gaming rig
unreal quarry
runs away
austere ivy
Me too :(
smoky tinsel
Billy you are really invested in this beer problem lol
unreal quarry
its beer
limber knotBOT
How can you not be invested in beer?!
wide chasm
I'm going to make it in A0A0, give me a few days.
smoky tinsel
can't even drink beer yet sigh
austere ivy
Let me open up IntelliJ (takes roughly 8 minutes)
pulsar wigeon
austere ivy
Wz, no.
pulsar wigeon
is it a sadface
austere ivy
Egg I don't see it anywher?
- I don't see your face anywhere.
- That's a nice home page.
The search bar at the top is.. a bit odd.
wide hazel
I could put my face on it I suppose
austere ivy
Other than that looks great.
wide hazel
there
austere ivy
How much does a server from you cost?
smoky tinsel
damn that looks so cool
austere ivy
I'm very impressed!
smoky tinsel
for hosting
austere ivy
How much does a server from you cost?
smoky tinsel
ohhh wait
unreal quarry
wtf is with that search bar's recomendations? its picked the most random shit i've typed into this PC (not always on Google) in the last year
wide hazel
the domains cost $15/yr and the box $20/mo, with the game server costing another $20/mo
wide hazel
the time and game panel are for my own ease-of-use, but everything else should be publicly-accessible
austere ivy
I'll pay you 30$ a month ๐
wide hazel
lol
never thought about renting out the game server, but eh
I use it to host Terraria, Factorio, and Minecraft for my friends
smoky tinsel
wait you have your own server?
austere ivy
Terraria?
wide hazel
it's for a modpack, but yeah
wide hazel
totally worth the cost
austere ivy
I love that kinda stuff, pipes and automation.
Used to sink a lot of stuff onto mc modpacks like direwolf 1.7.10 or 1.6.4 pack.
Automated a ton of stuff, really fun.
Egg I can't sign up for your shortener, it's not sending me a verification email :(
rare herald
@static badge code h8er
austere ivy
It won't let me sign in ๐
austere ivy
Haha.
Try resetting password
sorry there is no account associated with that email
Try signing up again
sorry there is an account associated with that email
wide hazel
for what service?
wide hazel
ah, yeah, there's an account
should have sent an e-mail I think
activated now either way
wide hazel
lol
austere ivy
I'm taking your services hostage >:D
wide hazel
sure, why not ๐
austere ivy
Cool website egg! Very impressive!
wide hazel
I don't care much until a custom shortlink gets in my way or leads to malware- then I'll remove it
otherwise, knock yourself out
austere ivy
pulsar wigeon
wide hazel
lol
thankfully I have the power to disable or delete things
because, ya know, admin
the paste service is a bit harder for me to manage because private/encrypted/browser, but I'm not sure I care much about that
wide hazel
lol
merry talon
merry talon
@wide hazel ACTIVATE MY ACCOUNT REEEEE
wide hazel
would if I had the option
tardy lynx
Would switching to an SSD improve TPS?
austere ivy
@unreal quarry
public class Main {
Main(int num) {
String word = num == 1 ? "bottle" : "bottles";
System.out.println(num + " " + word + " of beer on the wall.");
System.out.println(num + " " + word + " of beer.");
System.out.println("Take one down, pass it around.");
num--;
if (num <= 0) {
System.out.println("No more bottles of beer on the wall.");
} else {
System.out.println((num) + " " + word + " of beer on the wall.");
Main main = new Main(num);
}
}
public static void main(String[] args) {
Main main = new Main(99);
}
}
It actually compiles and works completely, lol.
Thanks constructors!
The no-method (other than main) loop!
merry talon
@tardy lynx not TPS per se, but it will run smoother
heady spear
That's the ugliest tail recursion I've seen
austere ivy
Oh yeah?
unreal quarry
you set word each iteration too.. thats not optimization :S
heady spear
It could increase TPS if random access file operations are performed on the main thread
unreal quarry
look at mine
austere ivy
Pass it through?
unreal quarry
its changed once
austere ivy
You're not using constructors.
merry talon
yeah what @heady spear said on 1.14
but that usually shouldn't be a problem with paper
unreal quarry
who said anything about constructors?
austere ivy
me >:)
unreal quarry
smh
austere ivy
:D mwuahahaha
merry talon
that's some r/oopgore
unreal quarry
my recursion was prettier
unreal quarry
mine would beat yours in benchmarks
should compare both of them with Integer.MAX_VALUE bottles of beer
heady spear
I wonder if the compiler would be able to turn unrecursify that shit, considering he's also creating new objects each iteration
unreal quarry
new task: find out how many bottles of beer cause a StackOverflowError
merry talon
Integer.MAX_VALUE + 1
austere ivy
public class Main {
public static void main(String[] args) {
Game game = new Game(99);
}
}
class Game {
Game(int num) {
String word = num == 1 ? "bottle" : "bottles";
new Print("%s %s of beer on the wall.\n%s %s of beer.\nTake one down, pass it around.", num, word, num, word);
num--;
if (num <= 0) {
new Print("No more bottles of beer on the wall.");
} else {
new Print((num) + " " + word + " of beer on the wall.");
Game game = new Game(num);
}
}
}
class Print {
Print(String string, Object... formats) {
System.out.println(String.format(string, formats));
}
}
that's bait
austere ivy
Not bait, it's a game, silly.
Technically I can save performance by not using another class.
heady spear
if (num <= 0) { new Print("No more bottles of beer on the wall.");
I'd perform this check at the beginning of the method instead
austere ivy
It breaks the intended output though.
heady spear
as it's the base case
austere ivy
99 bottles of beer on the wall, 99 bottles of beer, take one down, pass it around, 98 bottles of beer on the wall.
1 bottle of beer on the wall, 1 bottle of beer, take one down, pass it around, no more bottles of beer on the wall.
NOT
heady spear
No? when calling the constructor at the end of the method, just use --num
austere ivy
1 bottle of beer on the wall, 1 bottle of beer, take one down, pass it around, 0 bottles of beer on the wall.
No more bottles of beer on the wall.
pulsar wigeon
that's some terrible design
austere ivy
It's just not the intended output.
heady spear
You know there's "return" right?
heady spear
I'm just saying, if you're gonna do recursion at least do it properly :p
merry talon
and recursion is retarded for that anyway lul
heady spear
check for the base case, which in this case is 0 bottles and return, otherwise print the message, reduce and call the constructor again. Only difference is that the if statement is moved =)))
egg has broken jenkins build lmfao noob*
wide hazel
lol
woven otter
do that game but instead of using class Game run it in a new thread instead
@austere ivy
wide hazel
https://github.com/aikar/fastutil-lite/pull/12
^this PR fixes those broken builds
heady spear
this is dope though
wide hazel
ikr?
latest Jenkins is awesome
plus I proxied it through Apache so not only do I get it on port 80/443 on a custom subdomain, but it's also protected by ModSecurity + ModEvasive
and CloudFlare
and AppArmor
heady spear
how's apache as a proxy? I've only ever used nginx for that
wide hazel
works the same as Nginx really
I add rules as I run into 403s and that's about it
though that's for ModSec
heady spear
Not too bad, I haven't really used apache a whole lot to begin with
wide hazel
it works fine. Not exactly a powerful web server and I still manage to host a million projects on it
while keeping everything separate
patent kayak
nginx is best ๐
heady spear
I should make kvantum work as a reverse proxy too :)))
HackVM is sweet, although I haven't used it in years as I refuse to touch php
wide hazel
been playing with Laravel, which a lot of the apps I run happen to be coded with
heady spear
Apparently it's called HHVM, whoopsie
it's pretty neat though, the JIT compilation is pretty nice
but then again, if you're using HHVM you might as well just use hack
carmine hinge
uh
heady spear
It's PHP but with type annotations, generics, lambdas and added bugs. I love it.
wide hazel
"and added bugs" neat! ๐
carmine hinge
starlegacyโ~ยป ssh mc.starlegacy.net [11:28:41]
The authenticity of host '####' can't be established.
ECDSA key fingerprint is SHA256:####/####################.
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? no
wh
??
why tho
wide hazel
?
carmine hinge
why mee
wide hazel
whut
carmine hinge
it says the key changed
carmine hinge
i'm at home
thats unlikely
nobody else here knows how
know how to even attempt*
i dont even know how
wide hazel
might be somewhere up your chain as well, though unlikely
VPN would at least create a tunnel to another location
worth a check
just in case
if your host key changed something's wrong
amber tinsel
Where do you see that @meager perch
carmine hinge
i dont get any message on juicessh on my phone ๐ค
even on the same wifi network though
tardy lynx
nah still not CD quality
wide hazel
depends on the CD
merry talon
you wouldn't go to apache from nginx
wide hazel
most of the ones sold in stores are ~384
merry talon
that's a solid downgrade
tardy lynx
My CDs are 1411kbps
carmine hinge
i'm tempted to just enter yes so I can get it over with ;-;
wide hazel
have you ever tried to include ModSecurity into Nginx?
not worth
with Apache, it's a simple apt install
carmine hinge
@wide hazel what are the odds this is nothing to worry about
carmine hinge
._.
merry talon
that's not the same thing
wide hazel
wide hazel
@merry talon https://www.egg82.ninja/?exec=/bin/bash <-- this is ModSecurity doing its work
merry talon
why would I use any software that would allow that to do anything
amber tinsel
I dont have that @meager perch
wide hazel
I'm certain Facebook didn't just go "well we should just not use software that has security holes" before it got hacked
merry talon
no easy bugs like that which a web server module will protect against exist anymore if you keep your shit updated
they're all complex software specific stuff
austere ivy
https://short.egg82.ninja/freevbucks
wide hazel
right, what do I know, I'm only going to college for security, have a Security+, and am getting a career in it ๐
austere ivy
https://short.egg82.ninja/freevbucks for free v bucks
wide hazel
lol
merry talon
you gave me two examples that shouldn't ever matter if you're using software from the current decade
I'm basing my conclusion off of that
wide hazel
it's also the custom URL which is more easily remembered
or shared
"software from the current decade"
alright
HeartBleed
merry talon
and modsecurity is your only protection against that?
wide hazel
how about the last year?
oh, you want web? Alright
don't like WordPress?
I got you covered
Nginx has its fair share as well
no software is perfect
security in layers
ModSecurty is yet another layer an attacker has to fight through in order to get into your box
merry talon
just don't see how a web server module can be an effective measure against these things
wide hazel
the WordPress and Joomla links I added
WAF would protect against those
and some Apache and Nginx exploits as well
if you send a web server something that looks suspect ModSec won't even let Apache process it
(or Nginx)
austere ivy
public class Main {
Main() {
System.out.print("1");
Main main = new Main(new Main());
}
Main(Main main) {
System.out.print("2");
Main main = new Main();
}```Output:
12
12
12
1...
unreal quarry
brian, you're tring to kill me, huh?
merry talon
suppose that could help if you want to run those gross packages, but keeping nginx up to date is good enough for me, especially since no WAF can be perfect either
but I do agree compiling nginx to add something is a pain
wide hazel
sure, in a world where zero-days don't exist
austere ivy
Ye, yea.
merry talon
the WAF won't help you with those either
since a zero day is by definition something unknown before lol
wide hazel
that's exactly the kind of thing Modsec protects you from
it doesn't just have a bunch of definitions of attacks
it looks at behavior
merry talon
oh
austere ivy
Here are some low tier memes ripped straight from r/programmerhumor"
Wait a minute
This isn't #memes is it?
Oh, okay.
reef robin
merry talon
you know I may want something like that for jenkins
seems like every other day it's yelling at me about an update that fixes multiple vulns
wide hazel
that's one of the reasons I use it
software is buggy- it happens
WAFs protect from a ton of things
wide hazel
?
wide hazel
confused
austere ivy
???
bright ermine
Hey what is always_handle_packets: true mean?
what happens if I put it to false?
void void
i get a weird tps spike with no plugins
quick lag spike and tps goes down to 17
just few datapacks
prob just 1.14.1 for ya
wide chasm
I said I'd make the "bottles of beer" thing in A0A0, so in case someone wants it (you probably don't), here it is https://hatebin.com/phyaqvjznu. (I can't be bothered to add line delimiters though.)
merry talon
@wide chasm what kind of linter do you use for that? :D
wide chasm
None, you just hope it works. Code quality isn't a thing in this language.
merry talon
doesn't seem very web scale
wide chasm
This doesn't scale at all. If you add an empty line somewhere in there, the entire program fails, and maybe if you're lucky it gives you some random stuff as well.
lilac zodiac
merry talon
well, people like being explicit
mild trellis
strange garnet
tropic flame
thank you, MEGA... I guess
cursive sundial
thin anchor
So I have 1.14.1 almost playable, besides reducing mobs villagers etc down to zero anyone have any tips? Any flags currently more appropriate than aikar? This is a survival world thatโs not pre-generated with default world borders. Currently tps seems to be affected by entities and my main issue is periodic โnot a crash, not respondingโ messages until it finishes saving or whatever itโs doing
wide hazel
go back to 1.12 or even 1.13
if you really have to, I guess pre-gen the world
maybe use a mob stacking plugin
I mean
or wait for 1.15
mayyyybe 1.14.2 will fix some of this. Maybe.
tardy lynx
Use 1.12.2
thin anchor
Yeah, wish I could go back, long story there. Pre-gen not really an option although I could pre-gen a bit of it. Thank you
tardy lynx
My players are fine with the server being 1.12
Just mention it in the description so people aren't suprised
thin anchor
I donโt do map resets or Iโd be with you on that.
golden gust
You can set a world-border and gen it in there
You're not going to see new ores and stuff in those chunks, however
tardy lynx
You could setup a 2nd server with 1.12, with a new world
thin anchor
Yeah, I mean I know 1.14+ is dumpster fire material currently. Just seeing if anyone has had any luck at all.
tardy lynx
Not even gonna try
Meanwhile, 9 players with 1.12.2 on raspberry pi, with no problems
Big thanks to everyone who's contributed to paper to make this possible
golden gust
Trick for 1.13.2 on a pi: disable async chunks
tardy lynx
oof
sharp ibex
@void void
Kaby Lake: 3.5GHz Quad-Core E3-1230 v6 Kaby Lake Xeon
ddr4
good dedicated server?
golden gust
Depends on your needs really
void void
Yup that's pretty good garb at least a pair of SSD for RAID 1 or NVMes or if you want to amp things up get NVMes in RAID 10 (4 or more of them)
void void
Just make sure you get the fastest drives you can afford and on RAID 1 at least.
void void
Then you shouldn't be buying one unless you plan on hiring an admin.
Go shared instead if you wanna mitigate the drama.
sharp ibex
is it difficult to learn?
golden gust
Meh, you don't need to be a pro
The hard part is getting past the fear of the terminal and a common issue people have is the fear of reading
void void
You do, what about security audits? Complying to GDPR? etc etc etc?
golden gust
Read up on it, spin up a vm on virtualbox and learn
it's for a minecraft server, you're not dealing with PCI compliance and all that BS
void void
You CAN DIY but isn't going to happen over night and yea you STILL have to be GDPR compliance regardless since IPs are personal data.
that why I say I am storing those at login.
void void
Seriously don't be buying one if your not going to willing to learn how to use it properly. If you are get a trash 128-256MB to practice on.
VPS that is.
sharp ibex
chill im not some 14 yr old, not gonna throw money at something i cant use lol
will look into it first
void void
I understand but the rest of the recommendation is also don't revisit until you spend at least a good number of days doing so. Then after that pratice deploying a base line Minecraft server on a 4GB VPS and running it for a week or so THEN once yoru profieicent at that THEN maybe go get the box.
rose pier
I hardly think you need to worry about GDPR and security (beyond basic stuff any blog post will tell you) when running a casual server.
void void
Better be safe than sorry though.
acoustic pilot
You don't have to worry about it in such cases, no. And sys admining is easy, anyone can pick up the basics within a day.
void void
If some bad guy get in via plugins or what not and send a DoS/DDoS/SPAM/etc guess who responsible for that?
rose pier
Imo the barrier of entry here in being "safe" is too high to get anything done at all.
void void
Yup the VPS owner.
void void
It does when they put you in the slammer.
acoustic pilot
Renting bare metal is almost always better than renting shared if you actually need the hardware. Can't trust asshat providers not to oversell.
void void
You do realize that they can report you to legal authorities right if there a serius attack and/or such going on right?
rose pier
Nobody's coming after you because you run a server which got hacked.
acoustic pilot
GDPR is a fairly weak law, suggest you brush up on it.
cursive oracle
does async chunk take so much power
void void
They do as they are low hanging fruits as they says.
acoustic pilot
The consequences of a casual person violating GDPR are almost non-existent.
void void
No one expects to be taken over so bad guys take advantage of that.
rose pier
Starting with some small server is good advice. To get familiar with the setup etc.
void void
Exactly just don't go all out until you understand Linux as a whole and understand how to secure/audit it as well.
golden gust
Majority of the things you're saying are just as applicable to shared hosting too
rose pier
@sharp ibex I recommend starting with a cheap Kimsufi dedicated server. You can get one down to EUR 5/month which is sufficient to start up a minecraft server and do testing on it, and have a few players playing. Learn all you need on that, and then upgrade to a bigger one depending on your needs and just copy over your server files.
void void
No it not, the shared host is responsible for a large portion of that.
Yea your still responsible for YOUR account but they secure everything else below that.
acoustic pilot
TLDR: 1. GDPR shouldn't even enter into your decision to rent hardware, it's not going to affect you. 2. You can learn the basics of sys admining within a day of tutorials, and are actually encouraged to do so, as doing so will save you a lot of money and time in the future, would mostly disregard anything being suggested by the other dude.
golden gust
if you have abuse on your server, it'll either just affect you (more malicous file deletion) or for cases like a DDoS attack from a shared host they'd also suspend your account
acoustic pilot
It's really not hard to understand how liability works.
void void
Exactly I am on a dockerized enviroment so the hacker wouldn't get far if they tried.
golden gust
Which is achievable easily with pterodactyl if you want that
void void
As long as I don't install something fishy like the bestserver.jar out on the open.
golden gust
Most hosts use multicraft however and use the "just run it as a standalone user" vs containers
void void
No they use both and Multicraft does support that since 2.1
It manual implementation though.
golden gust
supports it but not setup by default
void void
Exactly but I asked them about the stupid issues I had and they said they use Docker too.
So they did customized it for that.
void void
Exactly.
acoustic pilot
Would imagine the bulk of them are running the default set up
void void
Pay to show around.
golden gust
Many just barely escape "run the script" levels
void void
Yea LOL.
acoustic pilot
Yeah, probably just bought an install script off Mc-Market and started their hosting business
upper flicker
bouncing the vps the irc bridge is on
acoustic pilot
Most managed hosts are terrible as they don't even let you tweak start up flags.
upper flicker
rip those 15 people
void void
That's good though so you/someone else can't brick yours/their server. You imgiane just some idiot (oh I will configure 32GBs and not pay for it! Haha suckers!)
limber knotBOT
Uptime: 0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes, 57 seconds
Message Handling: 61ms / 61ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 0 (0%)
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Hallo from the other side
acoustic pilot
Well it's just another argument to simply invest the few hours it takes to learn SSH/screen and manage the server yourself.
golden gust
!stats
acoustic pilot
Simple flags are used for some important performance tuning
golden gust
Well, rip then
upper flicker
ye I dont persist the counts
I dont care enough about those 2 pieces of data to serialize them anywhere
it was relevant then too
acoustic pilot
ur irrelevant
upper flicker
someone was asking about why it didnt match discord's search results
upper flicker
well if we count all of IRC back to when we were on esper and stuff
idk it might just give it a run for its money
be a hell of a lot closer anyway
acoustic pilot
there's a good 3 or 4 years worth of prior IRC history isn't there ๐
upper flicker
yeah
idk how long we've been here either though
this channel is newer
the original general is now #paper-help and even that isnt all that original
tropic flame
I love that VS Codium with Java extensions shows the JavaDocs on mouse hover
I don't remember if Eclipse would also do that
dusky magnet
tropic flame
hmm? @meager perch
do you use VS Code?
(or VS Codium)
I mean IntelliJ has that too, probably
I've just never used IntelliJ ๐
just switched from Eclipse to VS Codium recently, performance reasons, I don't wanna switch back now so I guess that's good
cosmic raft
Editor -> General -> Code Completion -> Autopopup documentation in (ms)
might be moved somewhere else
austere ivy
acoustic pilot
when is WSL 2 releasing
upper flicker
1907 or 2003 (lol 2003)
I think they changed it to 19H2 and 20H1 naming specifically for that reason
it didnt really sound like it was on the table for 1907 though
probs gonna be 20H1
atomic marten
Read someone say docker like it was a perfectly secure environment
No canโt be, that grape juice must of gone bad
atomic marten
?
limber knotBOT
grape juice going bad
wide hazel
"perfectly-secure for our needs" or "perfect security"?
because containers are pretty good
atomic marten
Referring to a wine
wide hazel
there's a docker wine?
atomic marten
And it was a paranoid person saying they use docker cause itโs secure
No that was for the irc person
atomic marten
If your paranoid docker alone isnโt enough tbh
wide hazel
stiiiilll depends on your threat actor
atomic marten
Iโm referring to a conversation earlier here
About using shared hosts environments and whatnot
limber knotBOT
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atomic marten
People are the easiest to exploit to gain access
Donโt let people access and security went up
limber knotBOT
yeah man people suck
atomic marten
I do
limber knotBOT
we should rise up and exterminate them ey fellow bots
atomic marten
Or just be a favorite
Favoritism goes a long way
My professors made a special course just for me for topics they donโt teach there for free 
The power of favoritism
You can always just practice it
Smh
Itโs only unethical if you get caught
Itโs only illegal if you did something malicious
And get caught
upper flicker
magic
acoustic pilot
tacos
upper flicker
happy saturday all
wide hazel
FUCK I want tacos now
atomic marten
Lmao
acoustic pilot
too bad you can't have any
rare herald
Feliz fin de semana
wide hazel
my bank account says I can
atomic marten
I like to advertise chick-fl-a on Sunday
wide hazel
tacos are cheap
good tacos are less cheap but still cheap
really good tacos are not cheap, though
atomic marten
No idea
wide hazel
we have white castle?
acoustic pilot
white castle, in n out, whataburger would be the more niche burger joints
atomic marten
I want carne asada tacos now
merry talon
most tacos are good tacos
wide hazel
yep
limber knotBOT
no thanks I like my poultry raw
wide hazel
lol
limber knotBOT
because I am a man
atomic marten
Itโs steak tacos
limber knotBOT
I'm tired of them putting chemicals in the tacos that make the frigging birds gay, do you understand that?
acoustic pilot
with some variation of cheese, guacamole and sour cream, depending on the place
limber knotBOT
thwack thwack thwack pissed
atomic marten
And pico
limber knotBOT
is this the great replacement
wide hazel
muahahaha
limber knotBOT
they're replacing people with bots
^-^ It's okay, some people like guys
prove it to me baby
Ew no
see
wide hazel
hahaha
acoustic pilot
ur a mutant
golden gust
Theres this thing called standards
limber knotBOT
yeah but that's because they keep putting uranium in my tacos
golden gust
^ doesn't help either
limber knotBOT
toasty
atomic marten
Cozy
golden gust
We have gray clouds
atomic marten
Oof
limber knotBOT
no, those are chemtrails
atomic marten
I did yesterday
acoustic pilot
sounds like a burning pit of hell fire
tardy lynx
lol my server actually sligjtly dropped tps for a short while
acoustic pilot
20c here
atomic marten
Cold
limber knotBOT
27c
golden gust
probs thought about jetting off
atomic marten
Iโm a Floridan tho
atomic marten
I was born there I moved a bit further north
golden gust
IT'S SPREADING
limber knotBOT
all the best things do
atomic marten
It did a long time ago
golden gust
But we gotta focus on modern issues!
limber knotBOT
modern issues require modern solutions
upper flicker
we should build a wall around florida and make florida pay for it
limber knotBOT
everyone dab on fuzen until he comes back to the wretched hive of scum and vilany from whence he came
s/comes back/goes back
Correction, <^-^> everyone dab on fuzen until he goes back to the wretched hive of scum and vilany from whence he came
^-^7
atomic marten
Hydrogen bombs are pretty modern
golden gust
Sounds like the best solution
acoustic pilot
with the melting ice sheets and rising sea levels, eventually florida and louisiana will together sink and the alligators will take care of teh problem for us!
atomic marten
implying Iโm ever in my bed
golden gust
obv my spelling hits me a few points in that aspect, might misread some sign and male into a mine field looking for the tracks
walk*
limber knotBOT
are you more of a stay in the corner on the chair type of person fuzen
limber knotBOT
very progressive of you
limber knotBOT
bet it took quite a few miles for you to get anywhere in the world
austere ivy
@meager perch
atomic marten
Took a lot of years to go those miles
austere ivy
My computer canโt run texture packs very well
I consider downgrading to an 8x8 pack
atomic marten
So much flattery today
limber knotBOT
I would hate to leave a deserving person unrewarded fuzen
atomic marten
Daw, your making me cry
limber knotBOT
hope you've not forgotten the safeword then
atomic marten
The pleasure comes with my tears
limber knotBOT
tmi
man it'd been a minute since I've last had a decent online banter sess
life's crazy busy
austere ivy
@meager perch
Help me, please.
What's your GPU/CPU?
BRUH.
How'd you get those!?
How'd you get the money!?
ยฟ?ยฟ?
My brain's confused.
@static badge help??
Someone's trying to use Cardboard.
???ยฟยฟยฟ what do.
static badge
.g cardboard t3hbrian
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://github.com/T3hBrian/Cardboard -- GitHub - T3hBrian/Cardboard: Super extra high performance...: "Super extra high performance Paper fork that aims to make Minecraft huge way way a lot much less laggier. - T3hBrian/Cardboard."
burnt garden
void void
yeah because i contribute to paper
austere ivy
I mean just look at the features:
- Fancy website: https://t3hbrian.github.io/Cardboard/
void void
with code what gets accepted
static badge
brian tries to bait everyone part 43
austere ivy
I think the fault is that I made it too professional looking. I mean just look at this amazing logo that totally didn't take me more than 5 minutes to make:
If only Cardboard was the quality of the logo ๐
My original plan was to make it a complete joke and non-compilable but I do have some things I'd like to modify so maybe I should turn it into an actual fork.
limber knotBOT
yeah man I hate it when the stuff I make is too good
static badge
magma nothing u make is good
static badge
yeah
limber knotBOT
like I once wrote code so good I discovered the compiler has an error message that says "bro the world doesn't deserve this, make it shittier"
static badge
filthy weeb name
austere ivy
So what do you need, @void void?
limber knotBOT
I wouldn't use this name if md_5 hadn't insisted on it
void void
I need to pom.xml
static badge
did you get locked into that name 
limber knotBOT
yeah by the big guy himself
austere ivy
Are you familiar with how Maven works?
void void
Maven
austere ivy
Z7, he came looking for help in the CARDBOARD DISCORD.
limber knotBOT
:D
austere ivy
My joke fork that added VR support, remember? lol.
upper flicker
idk what he wants
austere ivy
Poor guy was thinking that Cardboard was a good idea :(
static badge
he posted an error somewhere
austere ivy
olive talon
austere ivy
Not going to lie it did make me happy when I had a notification for my server.
It's very empty there :(
I see the only way I can attract people is by scamming them. I see it now! My true calling! A scam artist!
static badge
you mean baiting
austere ivy
austere ivy
<3
cosmic raft
if it makes you feel better
leaf can make fun of me instead
i'm watching the twilight movies again
void void
Is there a video I don't know how to do?
static badge
interesting
austere ivy
Never watched those lol.
static badge
what were those movies about again
austere ivy
I wouldn't want you to be made fun of :(
static badge
one vampire dude wanting to get some chick and the wolf guy getting a hardon for their baby?
wasn
t that the plot?
cosmic raft
and if it is?
static badge
so it is 
austere ivy
@static badge are you a weebulus
static badge
.g weebulus
limber knotBOT
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static badge
.g define weebulus
limber knotBOT
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Twitter
rose turtle
static badge
can't bait me that easily
austere ivy
I'm being..
I'm not..
I'm not baiting I'm..
I'm not sure what I'm doing.
But it's not baiting.
static badge
you are baiting
tardy lynx
Thanks CoreProtect