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void void
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let's marry at potemkin stairs

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๐Ÿ˜ป

cosmic raft
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wow, those are some nice stairs

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Wedding in Odessa at the Potemkin Stairs - length 1m 10s - 1 like, 0 dislikes (100.0%) - 24 views - Peter Kyburz on 2018.06.04

void void
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I have footage of our wedding

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๐Ÿ˜ป

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when will you comme kash ? ๐Ÿ˜ข

limber knotBOT
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when u die

void void
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

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Jordan never die

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๐Ÿ˜ 

limber knotBOT
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den u never marry

void void
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NOOOOOO ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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y u rud mane

limber knotBOT
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such is the life of being a dumcordian

void void
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๐Ÿ˜ 

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whats the irc server

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๐Ÿ˜ 

limber knotBOT
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y u rud mane

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y u think i nid kiwi

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.derpify y u rud mane?

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(RoboMWM) Y U RUD MANA?!1!111!1??!1!111!1?

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.derpify y u rud man no gud

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(Aquazus) Y U RUD MAN NOH GUD OMG LOL

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.flirt Aquazus

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nou

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.wyr

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oh right md removed that

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Lol I have a craftbukkit repo? ๐Ÿ˜‚

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.wyr

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c, told u, ur bound 2 die

carmine hinge
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is 1.14.2 looking good?

limber knotBOT
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is reddit down?

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.8

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.8 is reddit down

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shakes the magic 8 ball... Maybe...

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we have colors

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WoW

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much fancy

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advanced colors

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I LOVEE KASHIKE

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<3

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I LOVE KASHIKE

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.8 is kashike really in love with me?

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shakes the magic 8 ball... It is certain

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:o

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.dinner

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pls fix

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How can I set my webhook avatar

golden gust
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It just matches names to discord

limber knotBOT
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o o f

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test

static badge
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LUL I totally forgot to remove 0094-Configurable-Keep-Spawn-Loaded-range-per-world from the removed folder

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eletronic u wan go an del that thx

void void
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which one do you prefer ?

royal vortex
ornate spindle
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anyone happen to know what mcmmo's region files are used for?

still onyx
golden gust
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Afaik it's storing info such as who placed what blocks in the world, etc

azure cosmos
ornate spindle
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hmm I wonder if there is a way to disable it

merry talon
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who was that mcmmo loser

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@stiff yarrow ?

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Songs that never fail to make white people beyond turnt - Tumblr - 95 videos - Pigeon Wowie

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Sk8er Boi

cosmic raft
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yes

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mfw regionfilecache has the write nbt method protected while it has the read nbt public

stiff yarrow
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@ornate spindle stores what blocks are considered unnatural

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Cotton-Eye Joe poggers

ornate spindle
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ah okay

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ty for the info

left yacht
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basically @stiff yarrow we're screwing around with mcmmo as it leaks so much memory

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about 10GB per day on our factions server due to entity meta data.

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was fixed in later versions, but 1.8 being 1.8

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no-one ever bothered to fix it

unreal quarry
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because 1.8 is dead

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runs

left yacht
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we just um use 1.8 for performance reasons

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on that server

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holding over 500 players is impossible on 1.12.2 as far as I'm aware.

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but yeah we know it's dead, I personally hate it. Our players prefer 1.12.2 servers as well.

stiff yarrow
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@left yacht find the commit where the leak was fixed and copy it

left yacht
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that didn't work

stiff yarrow
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you aren't talking about region files right?

left yacht
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Yup

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our biggest problem isn't CPU resources, it's memory atm.

static badge
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I doubt mcmmo touches regionfiles at all

left yacht
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but we think we figured it out.

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mcmmo_region files leafy

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not regular region files

stiff yarrow
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so you mean the region files are taking up too much disk space

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why not just copy the current region file code then

left yacht
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uh that's disk usage

stiff yarrow
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also probably better to talk about this in the mcMMO discord not paper

static badge
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did you analyse a heap dump to come to this conclusion?

left yacht
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yes

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uh oh nossr :>

left yacht
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and nossr, I know.

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but I doubt you'd provide help for a 1.8 version, so I didn't think to go there.

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and I don't plan on keeping the topic mcmmo here anyway.

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as we think we got it resolved.

quasi valley
rancid void
quasi valley
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also just found a Spigot thread from... 2017 stating that error thonk

static badge
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we don't presume servers run debug worlds

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I know one of our changes is to replace getTypeAt or something to use a trimmed method to ignore the debug stuff

native thunder
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I usually see that when someone tries to set a username longer than 16 chars

quasi valley
merry talon
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mfw

static badge
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sweepy ur literally retarded

merry talon
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u literally have the brain cells of a leaf

static badge
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nice sentence you got there

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oh no

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you edited it

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real shame irc doesn't forget

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<DiscordBot> <Sโ€‹weโ€‹epโ€‹y> ur literally have the brain cells of a leaf

merry talon
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ur

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no u

merry talon
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retarded

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i made the mistake because I was cooking

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but i know u wouldn't understand

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what that entails

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excuses

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it's 1 am dumbass wtf are you cooking for

merry talon
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im hungry dumbass

static badge
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well ur a dumbass

merry talon
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better than a dumb leaf

static badge
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doubt it

merry talon
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also is actually 4

static badge
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that's even dumber then

unreal quarry
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how does this english sound? Ability to right click a sign with a sign to re-open the sign editor for editing

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seems like theres an easier way to say that, but its 3:30 am and i cant think

merry talon
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"Ability to edit signs by right clicking them with another sign in hand"

unreal quarry
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ty ^_^

woven otter
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leaf is canadian ๐Ÿค”

void void
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fixing win 10 starter pack

1 instal script
2 run as admin
3 take ownership of folders
4 take ownership of files
5 stop process from starting again
6 stop service from starting again
7 own registry
8 restart
9 run as admin
10 kill process
11 delete folders
12 scan and delete files
13 delete files
14 set working directory (for random name folders)
15 delete files
16 change windows setings
17 change firewal rules
18 delete apps
???
profit ```
woven otter
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fixing win 10 starter pack:

1. Install linux distro of your choice
void void
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haha inferior

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iam just leting them fap with win 10 usage stats

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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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linux will need same bothery

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i have wrote alredy 5milion leters in script

trim arrow
worn ember
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so someone asked me why his webhook wasnt working in my mod and we probably spend like 20 minutes figuring out why tf it wasnt working... until i realised there was a button you had to press to send it to the webhook :))

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i swear i'm not retarded

strange bane
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The other day I did Ctrl + C to copy from the console. ๐Ÿ˜›

pulsar wigeon
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too late for that, unless you mean going back to beta 1.7 :^)

limber knotBOT
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well, there are many things that are being worked on

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currently we are trying to establish better communication between server owners and mojang

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there is now a private server-lounge channel on the offical minecraft discord used for that (after everyone is back from the creator summit, lol)

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then we want to talk with the CMs about EULA and servers in generally, aka what can they do to help server owners while also making the game better (more secure) for players

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thats smth the CMs push hard, they want stuff like chat filters

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"basic bugs"

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lol

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are you a programmer?

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your boss would fire you if you introduce a regression into a release while doing a giant refactor of legacy code?

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that sounds like a great work climate, lol

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there are no production stopping bugs tho, lol

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or does the server crash every 5 minutes?

hot gorge
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When did minecraft stop being a video game?

limber knotBOT
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stuff like that might be hard to understand if you are not a developer

acoustic pilot
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Mojang devs aren't generally incompetent and regressions are not a very good indicator of incompetence, so I'm not sure why they're taking the heat lol

tall steppe
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I'll also ask here, maybe paper has something specific for this.
Is it possible to store persistent data in a container? Basically Id like to mark containers to be able to recognize them later (on break). But i dont want to have a database or simillar. Ideas?

acoustic pilot
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Management, most likely.

fallen oracle
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Quick question. So I've been having an issue now with my PC where it'll sometimes just not work (the internet part of it). Now what's weird is that it seems like TCP / UDP requests never stop working (at least that I can see) but stuff like HTTP / TLS (discord) and websites will stop working for a few seconds every so often. Anyone know what could cause this? I've done virus scans and it doesn't look like I have anything.

tall steppe
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Have you checked your dns server?

fallen oracle
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Yeah I'm using Cloudflare's SSL

merry talon
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its always dns

tall steppe
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See if thats stable. It wasnt for me the in the past.

acoustic pilot
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Mojang's obv just a tiny indie company that can't afford to hire more devs

merry talon
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definitely not the literal most valuable company in the world

fallen oracle
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So should I try using Open DNS instead?

hot gorge
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I'd just point everything to Google dns and test

tall steppe
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@fallen oracle just try 1.1.1.1 but without DoH

merry talon
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you said SSL

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you're using DoT?

tall steppe
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One of thoese i guess?

fallen oracle
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DoT?

hot gorge
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Dame of Thrones

merry talon
fallen oracle
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Lol

tall steppe
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is DoT even still a thing? i think DoH is where its at nowdays.

fallen oracle
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I don't think I know what DoH or DoT is.

merry talon
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DoT is the better version

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DoH is the compatibility one

tall steppe
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oh, how does your dns setup look like.

merry talon
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so why'd you say SSL? what does that mean?

fallen oracle
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I said HTTP / TLS

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When I said Cloudflare SSL I mean like the SSL DNS

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Sorry, should've made that clear.

merry talon
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that still doesnt make sense

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are you testing against cloudflare or using their DNS?

fallen oracle
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Using their DNS

tall steppe
merry talon
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and without TLS I'm assuming because windows

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so sure try those I guess

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or google's

fallen oracle
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I switched to Open DNS to see if it makes a difference.

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Would make sense if it's just DNS issues cause TCP / UDP always work.

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Tho it still does seem to fail sometimes sending messages.

tall steppe
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same here. maybe discord has issues.

merry talon
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so make sure you're not just testing here lol

fallen oracle
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That is definitely possible.

merry talon
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case in point

fallen oracle
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Yeah, what I could do is just open a CMD and constantly do a ping test on an IP to see if it fails.

hoary meteor
tall steppe
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No then you dont test dns

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just do dig in a loop

fallen oracle
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I don't think that's a windows thing.

merry talon
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WSL?

tall steppe
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what. some of my messages just dont come through!

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Its only certain ones.

tacit nacelle
merry talon
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yep its discord

fallen oracle
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Going to install dig rn

merry talon
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you should have it if you have WSL

fallen oracle
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Aha I do

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Good catch

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So just constantly run dig on google or something

tall steppe
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How long is mc going to stay on java 8 ..... its quite old by now.

acoustic pilot
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forever and ever

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long live java 8

merry talon
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they use an old version of 8 too

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75 or something iirc

worn ember
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until they're forced to move since its no longer suported and then all hell will break lose again

merry talon
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dont think theyll care if its EOL or not

tall steppe
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I'm glad that paper works on modern versions though. good job there.

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yeah, they wont.

worn ember
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yeah well they already lost all my respect anyway

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

tall steppe
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ive started developing my plugin for java 9 and higher, i dont want to bother with old language stuff.

worn ember
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i'm still on 8 lol

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too lazy to install 11 and read about new features

wide chasm
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You don't have to read about the new features.

pulsar wigeon
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just have to worry about what might break :^)

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nice thing is you can install multiple jre/jdks

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and switch between them pretty easily, depending on environment

worn ember
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but whats the point in upgrading then lol

wide chasm
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Bug fixes.

merry talon
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and performance

next otter
merry talon
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thats what happens when you're a lifeless block game developer

tall steppe
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Aren't we all.. aren't we all.

hasty bough
rose pier
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Which resource pack do you guys prefer?

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I used to use Shortstuf7's clean design pack but it hasn't been updated since 1.4 it seems.

spring pebble
void void
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aynone help?

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i have series tps drops

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on paper 1.14.1

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with 25plugins running

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it says run out of memory it has 5gb

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and it runs out of memory even with 2 players

merry talon
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run timings

void void
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i dont understand them

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i runned

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and what?

merry talon
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paste the link

void void
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and when you teleport you fall underground 10seconds and than you get teleported but not always

worn ember
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worldgen is pretty much fucked in 1.14

merry talon
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are you using a floppy disk?

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wtf

void void
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?

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what?

merry talon
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where are you hosting the server

void void
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heavynode

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it uses nvme 2 ssd

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which is 3$/1gb

worn ember
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its just 1.14 world gen being fucked i think

merry talon
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shouldnt be that bad

void void
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no

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it wasnt doing this

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dropping tps

worn ember
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ran out of diskspace?

void void
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diskspace is 25000

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and i have 4000

worn ember
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well its definitely when saving

merry talon
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have you tried contacting your host

void void
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this is with only 1player

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timings

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he said that its plugin problem

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cpu was running 200%

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i tried deleting most of the plugins nothing changed

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and i have this plugins from the start

worn ember
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its just to make you shut up lol

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keep bugging them about it

void void
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on this timings with 1 player

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4%

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droped

worn ember
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seems like they put in a floppy disk instead of a SSD ๐Ÿค”

void void
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that could drop the tps?

merry talon
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your tps is fine

worn ember
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its just with saving

void void
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sometimes drops

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from 20

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to 16-17 and goes back in 4seconds

vestal jasper
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Probably because it's saving

merry talon
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^ lol

worn ember
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welcome to 1.14

void void
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... like i said it wasnt doing this

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first week

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even with 12players

merry talon
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what do you want from us

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this is on your host's end

worn ember
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well that doesnt change anything lol

void void
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to tell me what could be the problem

worn ember
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we did...

merry talon
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a shitty disk

vestal jasper
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literally just did

void void
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okey i will tell to the host

worn ember
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tell them to shove their shitty disks up their ass, i'm sure that'll work

void void
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its shared hosting wtih 3-4other servers

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and the ram is not overselled

spiral garden
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i feel like shared hosters will rage over 1.14, that seems to create issues with those kinds of hosts

void void
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so its host issue?

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not a plugin

spiral garden
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yes everyone told you that at least 2 times

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complain to your host

worn ember
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๐Ÿฆ€ TPS IS GONE ๐Ÿฆ€

merry talon
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the startup flags suck btw

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tell them about this too

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.mcflags

limber knotBOT
void void
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i can put them myself?

merry talon
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no

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probably not

limber knotBOT
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๐Ÿ‘€

void void
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i asked the host if they use floppy disk

merry talon
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lol

vestal jasper
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lol

void void
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haha

void void
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IF you know how to fflipping use one or LEARN how to!

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Otherwise just get a stable shared provider.

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Maybe to install it and etc but to understand how to know and understand all logs to efficiently do an security auditing . Likely at least a few days or so.

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Because you can't just toss a jar and call it a day.

merry talon
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you can be elitist all you want

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but shared hosting will be a better use of your cash

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at the lower end

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discord wont send my damn messages

void void
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yeah they're having issues again

merry talon
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a $5 shared hosting plan is going to perform much better than a $5 vps

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if you use a respectable host

void void
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Exactly and they are responsible as well if they ship on their secuirty.

merry talon
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most likely

void void
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or just you know

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use swap files

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ez

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So more than likely hosts will cover up their butts really good espeically with the GDPR in effect as well if they are catering to any EU+29 other countries.

merry talon
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as long as you stay away from the summer hosts

void void
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Exactly.

merry talon
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the equivalent of a $2 hooker

void void
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or even burger...

merry talon
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hey, a burger is a burger

void void
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Exactly a decent host is a decent host no matter if they charge 3 dollars a GB or 5 dollars a GB. Heck even many "premiums" aren't that too good beside more "friendly" UIs. Great but if my server is not great too and/or support then why pay more right?

normal echo
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I don't suppose anyone here knows of a discord bot to rename people with annoying usernames?

merry talon
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shouldn't be too hard to write

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check if their username is ASCII

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unless you want to support unicode but not annoying like egg82

upper flicker
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You can filter out blocks of the Unicode spec fairly easily to allow some stuff but not the super cancerous stuff

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ascii might annoy some people too much

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Easily done though as he said

sturdy fulcrum
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@meager perch dm me

atomic marten
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I need emoji usernames in mc

upper barn
molten maple
wide hazel
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Rip link

worn ember
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wholesome boobs owo

atomic marten
wide hazel
worn ember
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uwu

wide hazel
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:D

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Angery kittenz

void void
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@merry talon

merry talon
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?

fresh ermine
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"use craftbukkit 1.7.10" LUL

void void
pulsar wigeon
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that's the face of a body disposal agent alright

void void
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I look like Claude from GTA III

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๐Ÿ˜‚

tardy lynx
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Depends on which specs it is

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Shared hosts aren't really consistant since other servers can take up cpu resource

digital oak
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the piston is visible

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wait i shift the piston down one block down

tardy lynx
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Still trying to write description

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"<> is a vanilla survival server that..."

worn ember
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is vanilla with survival

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you're welcome

fresh ermine
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but what i dont understand is how /r/games would have a chance at being partnered, but you said /r/gmod which was listed from the official game devs as the official discord and community place wouldn't be able to / its not justifiable

golden gust
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All I'm saying is is that if you didn't shove TNT under there you failed

pulsar wigeon
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because partnership isn't verification

fresh ermine
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yeah but i said earlier that its harder to get verified

pulsar wigeon
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verified = "this is the official discord of the studio/developer/esports org"

fresh ermine
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you**

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sorry

pulsar wigeon
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no i didn't

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i said for /r/gmod, it makes less sense to be verified than partnered

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partnered = "this is a big community that discord wants to have in a relationship"

fresh ermine
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im too tired to be reading messages right now i apologize lol

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Okay that makes sense

pulsar wigeon
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a subreddit is not the official project/studio, even if it's the official subreddit designated by the game

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if your community is big/"hype"/subjective measures/etc enough, then you can apply for partnership anyway

fresh ermine
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Ahhh

tardy lynx
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How do I make my pc auto-mount my sftp server?

pulsar wigeon
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add to /etc/fstab?

tardy lynx
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And not have to enter the password every time I want to ssh?

pulsar wigeon
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fstab options take user/pass

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er wait

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ssh what

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mount or ssh?

tardy lynx
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both

worn ember
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in plain text

pulsar wigeon
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iirc fstab allows you to store a credentials file elsewhere too

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but that aside uh

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that doesn't make sense tbh

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sftp is just ftp over ssh right?

tardy lynx
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yea

pulsar wigeon
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you can't ssh into an ftp server

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you...ftp into it

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it's just a file server

worn ember
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lmao

pulsar wigeon
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there's no login shell

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what exactly does "ssh into" mean?

tardy lynx
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terminal

pulsar wigeon
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ok, so not ftp

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.>

worn ember
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they're 2 seperate things

golden gust
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Yea, it's not real ftp

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use ssh keys

tardy lynx
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Yeah I'd like to have the sftp auto-mount AND not have to enter the password when using ssh with terminal

pulsar wigeon
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yea if you need to ssh in, you can store the creds (generally in ~/.ssh)

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but you can't "mount" ssh afaik

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it's not a filesystem

golden gust
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You can ๐Ÿ˜„

pulsar wigeon
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is there something for it

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or is that standard

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i would guess it's an extra package that adds a fs type

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that essentially just read/writes a FS over (s)ftp

golden gust
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I forget the name of it, stfp_mount or something, it basically just a fuse fs iirc

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oh, sshfs

merry talon
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there's a fuse for everything

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you can mount anything rclone supports

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you can save an sftp config with that and then rclone mount in fstab

fresh ermine
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someones giving a bearded dragon away

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i already ahve one

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but liek i have another tank

worn ember
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@merry talon can you mount me ๐Ÿค”

merry talon
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Mount Your Friends - Experience the extreme simulated sporting sensation that's sweeping our... - Indie, Simulation, Sports - released Jul 29, 2014 - $4.99

golden gust
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Luks gr8

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oh god, that reminds me of some weird boxing game type thing people used to love

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Toribash - "Just when ragdoll was becoming an irritant for gaming, Toribash swoops in... - Action, Free to Play, Indie, Strategy - released May 16, 2014 - free

sturdy fulcrum
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Sup

placid thicket
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Mount your friends is one of the most hetro games of the century, it does not require an NSFW for real hetro men

golden gust
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Obey the Beard by Psychostick [Official] Beard Song - length 4m 27s - 29,814 likes, 617 dislikes (98.0%) - 2,413,876 views - Psychostick on 2013.11.06

merry talon
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oh wow toribash

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Let's Play Indie Games - Toribash - length 12m 24s - 15,661 likes, 296 dislikes (98.1%) - 2,221,886 views - OfficialNerdCubed on 2012.01.16

worn ember
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lol

tardy lynx
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idk what else to write about the server it's just plain vanilla

pulsar wigeon
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don't write more then

tardy lynx
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I've done 5 lines I think I need more

pulsar wigeon
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why

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if it's that plain and boring, no one will stay anyway

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why bother advertising it

tardy lynx
#

idk

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I'd like to build a small community

pulsar wigeon
#

write that

ancient bolt
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Could just join a small community too

austere ivy
#

Block all armorstands in the world /s

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Boom problem fixed

upper flicker
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Check current number in chunk, deny interact

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iirc thatโ€™ll do it

austere ivy
#

Would that be expensive?

upper flicker
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If someone spammed it perhaps

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Not really though

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Easy to ratelimit

austere ivy
#

Aha, another specific niche I can cater to!

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Youโ€™ve heard of NoBedExplosions, get ready for NoMoreThanThirtyTwoArmorstandsInAChunkAndItsRateLimited

upper flicker
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I mean I probably wouldnโ€™t add the rate limit until I saw someone abuse it

austere ivy
#

I have such a great plugin naming system lol

upper flicker
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It shouldnโ€™t be that expensive

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If youโ€™re only going to write it once though it couldnโ€™t hurt I guess

austere ivy
#

Ok then; just NoMoreThanThirtyTwoArmorstandsInAChunkAndItsNotRateLimited(Yet)

upper flicker
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Even the acronym for that is too long

austere ivy
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NMTTTASIACAINRLY?

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Kinda catchy, you could just shorten it to NMASIAC

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No more armorstands in a chunk. And let the amount be customizable.

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NMEIAC if we made the type customizable ๐Ÿ‘€

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Okay I need to go take a shower, see you.

tardy lynx
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Alright thanks, got the description finished. All ready to go tomorrow

austere ivy
#

I think I've found the reason that my computer says "NO" to MC 1.13+

#

I tried using LWJGL, it did not work. Takes like 5 minutes to launch which is around the same it takes for Minecraft to launch, and I just put red pixels on a 30x30 window.

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I'm thinking my graphics card really strongly does not like that version of OpenGL in LWJGL 3+

wide hazel
austere ivy
#

Egg what's your salary?

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Nevermind forgot people were sensitive about those things.

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My salary is $0 which is very ๐Ÿ‘

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I spend 24 hours a day nonstop working for life and I get nothing, thanks life.

#

Hmm, this is interesting.

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I was hearing something about how we were getting Title II which isn't what we want.

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

wide hazel
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@austere ivy my school job pays $12/hr and my current contract $24/hr

austere ivy
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Nice.

#

Oh wait amazon store?

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Hey you have one around you? That's cool!

#

How's the produce there?

#

Do they even have any produce?

upper flicker
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In certain markets

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Theyโ€™re trying, but stuff isnโ€™t everywhere

#

and online food stuff especially is spotty depending on their nearest hub

austere ivy
#

Yeah I'd imagine.

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Yikes this is interesting.

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๐Ÿคฆ if they hired employees to take cash it would just basically be another supermarket.

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It's not exclusive for people who don't have bank accounts. There are tons of other stores that accept cash, and what keeps the store's prices so low is that they don't have cashiers.

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It's at line 7, page 2, the part where it says that.

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One thing that's interesting is that they're not including all ethnicities (which is odd?) but either way there's tons of stores that accept cash, and it's not like opening a bank account is super hard.

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This isn't a victim thing, if this is a household they very much have the ability to open the bank account.

serene latch
austere ivy
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6.5%, not 14% or 17%, I'll read on but seems interesting.

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Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

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So undeniably the unbanked rates have been dropping, but what's interesting is that in the memo they're exclusively talking about Black and Hispanic people and not Asian or White people.

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Racist? I think so.

worn ember
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whats there to talk about?

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they all have banks

austere ivy
#

They're cherry picking statistics to guide the discussion where they want to go. That's wrong and misleading.

worn ember
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stats never lie /s

austere ivy
#

Well if these stats are incorrect then they're quoting a PART of them (which leads them to be more incorrect)

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Also I do trust the FDIC, the source of the study.

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They do this study every year or two I believe.

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It's not a one-off novice study or anything.

worn ember
#

then why you saying its not correct??

austere ivy
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I'm saying it's not correct that they're cherry picking

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Did you read my above messages?

cosmic raft
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what on earth is going on here

worn ember
#

idk

cosmic raft
worn ember
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im not following anymore

cosmic raft
#

what is this madness

worn ember
#

oh

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thats more sane madness

austere ivy
#

I'm just saying these san francisco people want to ban Amazon Go under the idea that "a lot of people don't have bank accounts."

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As you can see from the 2017 study from the FDIC, they're cherry picking which ethnicities they want to show statistics from (since the white and asian households have a 5 times lower rate of being unbanked)

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And then you can see that these people CAN get a bank account, but more than 50% say they don't even WANT to.

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Additionally, the number of unbanked households have been declining and the number of unbanked households who don't want a bank account have been rising.

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This very clearly means that it's a specific amount of stubborn people who don't want a bank account.

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And this isn't even special to san francisco!

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The memo from the state says that "and in san francisco it might be higher"

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Source!?? Anywhere!??

worn ember
#

okay but what are we supposed to do about it?

austere ivy
#

No idea I'm just ranting because egg said that he was shopping in an Amazon Go place ._.

worn ember
#

okay...

austere ivy
#

Angers me how they're clearly misleading people and misusing statistics.

gloomy sphinx
#

the idea is probably to get rid of amazon go since they know it will do so well and eat up so many jobs...

austere ivy
#

Also only choosing to show statistics from one race, whether it be excluding or including white people, is very very racist.

gloomy sphinx
#

I think the idea flew over your head on this one

austere ivy
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TCC, instead of people doing meaningless work like being a cashier, they can go to school or educate themselves. Jobs being eaten up always opens open new ones. Amazon Go no doubt needs engineers or smart people behind the idea making it grow.

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Same thing happened with coal mining.

gloomy sphinx
#

ywha and where do the teens earn money to pay for this schooling?

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supermarkets lol

austere ivy
#

But then again overall there might be less jobs, so you have a point.

gloomy sphinx
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it's like 100 jobs being closed

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at each suoermarket

austere ivy
#

.. janitors?

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restockers?

gloomy sphinx
#

no

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are you like 13?

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and never had a job?

#

supermarkets have tons of employees for shifts

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management

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ect

austere ivy
#

Yeah, I see what you're saying, you have a good point.

gloomy sphinx
#

amazon go will fuck that

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while the robots package and transport

austere ivy
#

They still shouldn't be cherrypicking statistics to make misleading reasons to do something, though.

#

They could make the argument that it closes jobs, that's a good argument.

gloomy sphinx
#

who cares that is how law works

austere ivy
#

Making the argument that it's exclusive to banked households is a bad argument.

gloomy sphinx
#

you fight for what you believe in using anything you can grasp

#

that is just how it works

atomic marten
#

Sounds like an IT nightmare

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Btw

austere ivy
#

I'd love to hear some reports by Amazon on how many employees they hire per store.

gloomy sphinx
#

they will never put that out there

atomic marten
#

Security, probably a few it people per city and a team for customer service + managers / janitors

gloomy sphinx
#

they already killed off a bunch of warehouse jobs

atomic marten
#

My guess on what they would take

austere ivy
#

Unless they have robots which clean up the floors and robots which restock the shelves and robots that drive the trucks there, and robots that are security then there has to be some amount of employees.

atomic marten
#

Didnโ€™t say there would be none

austere ivy
#

Less, sure, but that always happens.

#

Throughout history there's been lots of jobs that have been replaced by automation.

atomic marten
#

Restocking can be done a sub delivery team

#

It wouldnโ€™t effect their overall time that much

austere ivy
#

Did you know computers used to be people who did the calculations?

#

The term "computer", in use from the early 17th century (the first known written reference dates from 1613), meant "one who computes": a person performing mathematical calculations, before electronic computers became commercially available.
"The human computer is supposed to ...

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That was replaced by computers as we know today.

#

And then, you know, copying books had to be done by hand.

unreal quarry
austere ivy
#

Not anymore.

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

I know it seems strange that we'd be killing off jobs with automation.

atomic marten
#

Jobs die, doesnโ€™t mean go out of your way to kill them all

austere ivy
#

And it was strange back then to kill them off with automation.

#

But nowadays, in the future, can you imagine if we still had those human computers?

atomic marten
#

Yes

austere ivy
#

Can you imagine if every time we wanted to solve something we'd have to hire someone and pay someone to do it for us?

atomic marten
#

I wouldnโ€™t have to call it

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For them to say reboot

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:^)

austere ivy
#

It's lead to a higher status of living.

atomic marten
#

Ai?

#

We wouldnโ€™t need ai we have humans

austere ivy
#

Lol this was pinned by Cartoon Network.

worn ember
#

why is that a thing

austere ivy
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

what

worn ember
#

no u

#

if i were to rate my laptop 1 out of 10 i'd get a OutOfMemoryException

austere ivy
#

What's your laptop?

worn ember
#

Latitude 3540

austere ivy
#

What's the longitude?

worn ember
#

Ha ha

void void
#

where does spawn stays?

#

my friend installed spawn in another world

#

with multiverse i think

#

where is the folder for that other world where the spawn is?

worn ember
#

could you rephrase that in readable english?

void void
#

so i have 2 worlds

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1 is spawn other is wilderness

#

how to get the files from the spawn?

#

in control panel

#

where is that world located?

austere ivy
#

In the root folder for your server?

void void
#

which one

austere ivy
#

Root folder as in the first one

worn ember
#

๐Ÿค”

austere ivy
#

Like..

#

It should be in the same folder as the "plugins" folder and the "world" folder

worn ember
#

thers only one root folder

void void
#

i dont see any root folder

heady spear
#

The folder with your server jar file ๐Ÿค”

void void
#

there is world_end world

austere ivy
#

You should open up your server folder or your control panel and it should be right there.

#

Yeah.

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YEAH.

#

That's your end world. What other worlds are there?

#

In that same folder.

void void
#

world

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world_nether

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world_the_end

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plugins

#

logs

#

home

heady spear
#

What are you actually trying to accomplish?

void void
#

download spawn

austere ivy
#

What spawn plugin?

void void
#

bro

#

its like map

#

in another world

#

with void around

#

than you type /warp willderness and you teleport to other world

austere ivy
#

Respond to the weeb. What are you actually trying to do?

#

Oh.

#

Have you installed MultiVerse?

void void
#

yes

#

buttttt where is the spawn world located

austere ivy
#

Okay then you just need to make a new spawn world then.

void void
#

i want to download it

austere ivy
#

You have to.. create it.

void void
#

its already donee

austere ivy
#

./mvcreate or something.

#

uhhh

void void
#

..

#

its already done

#

i want to download the folder

#

so i have backup of my spawn

austere ivy
#

Don't get snappy here, we're the ones trying to help you.

#

Okay, can you give us a picture of all the files/folders in your root folder? The one with all the worlds in it.

void void
#

nah i just cant explain

austere ivy
#

MultiVerse puts the worlds in the root folder (root folder is the first folder, it's the one your server.jar is in)

#

Multiverse? Yeah.

heady spear
#

Well, you need to know the world name. You can list the world using multiverse, the world folder will have the same name as the world

#

/mv list I think?

void void
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Spawn

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its called

austere ivy
#

Okay, then in the folder with your server.jar in it, there should be a folder called "Spawn"

void void
#

yeah thats the problem its not there

austere ivy
#

.. uh.

#

Can you give us a screenshot of the root folder?

void void
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cache,crash report,home,logs,plugins,world,world nether,world the end

austere ivy
#

screenshot

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It's just not there which is super strange.

void void
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i think i saw it 2hoursago

austere ivy
#

Are you sure it's in /mv list?

void void
#

yeah

#

there is world_the_end THE END

#

world NORMAL

#

spawn NORMAL

#

world_nether NETHER

austere ivy
#

And you're sure you're not hallucinating?

#

Hmm.

#

Very strange indeed.

#

Try restarting your server (NOT reloading)

worn ember
#

RELOAD OR BAN

austere ivy
#

And then do /mv list again.

#

DON'T LISTEN TO HIM.

#

He's from the dark side.

upper flicker
#

reloads DarkEye

pulsar wigeon
#

can't you just check the worldname

worn ember
#

as long as you're not using plugman i'm fine with that

pulsar wigeon
#

go to the spawn place

austere ivy
#

Please give us a screenshot of /mv list.

#

I'm going to bet perhaps spawn is unloaded.

void void
#

when i switched from paper 1.14 to 1.14.1

#

the other world gliched

austere ivy
#

Give us a screenshot of /mv list, your root folder, and /ver.

void void
#

so i cant teleport to there

austere ivy
#

Give us a screenshot of /mv list, your root folder, and /ver, please.

#

Help us help you.

void void
heady spear
#

If the world is there then so is the world folder <.<

austere ivy
#

ยฟ? now I'm confused. It's loaded, you're running the latest paper build.

#

Can you do /mvtp spawn?

void void
#

oh yeah i teleported...

#

it teleported me to that world

#

now how to download it

pulsar wigeon
#

uppercase S spawn

#

i'll bet there's a nice error in console saying CAN'T HAVE UPPERCASE IN WORLD NAMES

austere ivy
#

I was thinking about that too, but that was fixed, wasn't it?

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OH.

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MD_5 JUST REMOVED SUPPORT FOR THAT DIDN'T HE?

pulsar wigeon
#

idk

austere ivy
#

Yeah probably try making it "spawn" instead of "Spawn"

void void
#

so the question is

pulsar wigeon
#

dunno what version it is

void void
#

how to download it now?

heady spear
#

spam tag Z and he'll answer all of your questions

austere ivy
#

wiz he just did /ver, he's running latest Paper 1.14.1 build.

pulsar wigeon
#

that tells me nothing

austere ivy
#

42 is the latest build, right?

void void
#

where is now located?

pulsar wigeon
#

and i'm not going to look at commit logs

#

and upstream logs

#

so /shrug

void void
#

can someone tell me

austere ivy
#

Gymblonski are there any errors in the console?

void void
#

oh now Spawn appread

#

in the root folder

austere ivy
#

\o/

void void
#

when i open it

#

its says region

austere ivy
#

Correct yeah.

void void
#

there is only region

austere ivy
#

You just download the entire "spawn" folder.

void void
#

thanks ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

#

so now thats the folder for the whole spawn?

worn ember
#

so why cant world have uppercases?

austere ivy
#

For that world, yeah.

#

I guess it can.

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

For future reference, try to name them lowercase.

#

Just for good measure.

heady spear
#

because something something md_5 poo poo face

worn ember
#

no u

pulsar wigeon
#

mojang doesn't allow it anymore apparently

heady spear
#

ok time to make update
should we fix the bugs?
no, but world name only lowercase!!!
update released!
thinks about it, one like and plz shre

#

follow for more daily fun fact!

void void
#

@worn ember what?

worn ember
#

?

void void
#

you said this to me? so why cant world have uppercases?

heady spear
#

ye dark y

worn ember
#

i wasnt talking to you lol

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@heady spear you filthy weeb lul

static badge
#

lul filthy fuckin weeaboos

merry talon
#

๐Ÿ“‚Documents
โ””๐Ÿ“spottedleaf
โ””๐Ÿ“extra chromosomes
โ””โš ๏ธThis folder has reached its capacity

static badge
#

mfw robbing dumb youtube comments

merry talon
#

actually

#

i took it out of my steam profile comments

worn ember
#

dont people with down have more chromosomes anyway?

merry talon
#

from 3 years ago

#

thats the point

worn ember
#

wow u dum dum

void void
#

in Spawn folder

#

i only see region

#

and in region

#

r 0.01

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i dont think the world is there

#

and 1..1 mca

pulsar wigeon
#

the whole folder is the world

#

jfc

mortal pike
tropic flame
#

@merry talon was that chromosome thing a reference to filthy frank

merry talon
#

no

tropic flame
#

Because spotted said the word filthy

#

Oh

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Rip

merry talon
#

didnt even pay attention to what he said

tropic flame
#

It'd be too good tbh

void void
#

@pulsar wigeon so spawn is in world?

#

i dont get it

haughty peak
void void
#

@heady spear

cosmic raft
#

PYTHON

#

IS

#

TRASH

merry talon
#

KASHIKE

#

USES

#

PHP

static badge
#

big yikes

#

using php and shit talking python?

ionic sonnet
#

yeah frick python coffeescript all the way

cosmic raft
#

@static badge yes, shittalking python

static badge
#

big oofers

cosmic raft
#
        from glob import glob
        things = {}
        for root, dirnames, filenames in os.walk(thing_dir):
            for f in fnmatch.filter(filenames, '*.thing'):
                base = os.path.basename(f)
                things[base] = [os.path.join(root, f)]
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what is this garbage

static badge
#

trash

cosmic raft
#

exactly

static badge
#

ur

merry talon
#

just looks like r/badcode

#

not python's fault

tardy lynx
#

2 players on my raspberry pi with 20 tps

limber knotBOT
#

What version?

tardy lynx
#

latest stable

limber knotBOT
#

1.13.2?

tardy lynx
#

1.12.2

limber knotBOT
#

Or even 1.12.2? :D

#

ah

worn ember
#

Lolol

#

Thank God forge skipped 1.13 mostly

void void
feral patrol
pulsar wigeon
#

epic store

#

rather torrent if i'm getting shit for free

quasi valley
#

Imagine forcing people to use their not even half finished game launcher by buying into a bunch of major titles

merry talon
#

I for one am ok with the steam monopoly

#

no one else knows what the hell they're doing

#

except blizzard

#

I think the best outcome from this is making steam more competitive and then everyone going back

finite wave
#

Steam isn't going to get crushed anytime soon anyway Epic is just stupid thinking they can compete

atomic marten
#

I hate epic

#

Wonโ€™t ever buy from them unless something major happens

#

Easy anticheat conversations to support Linux was going fine till epic walked in

void void
#

just realised one thing

cosmic raft
#

holy

#

this is cool

void void
#

minecraft with 8gb of ram is 600% faster than with 2gigs of ram

#

in terms of chunk loading

cosmic raft
void void
#

they tilted up minecraft requrments quite high

#

now it eats more than chrome

#

-Xmx 8g is 600% faster than -Xmx 2g on chunks

orchid pelican
#

.args

cosmic raft
#

above letter and stickers came all the way to canada from austria

#

(not australia)

gloomy sphinx
#

must have been painful to write that

merry talon
#

...what is jenkins x

limber knotBOT
#

Hello every one, is there a way to disable the message in console 'player moved too quickly'?

cosmic raft
merry talon
#

yeah

#

you use k8s?

cosmic raft
#

who doesn't

merry talon
#

someone who doesn't have the money for a cluster

#

lol

acoustic pilot
#

Requirements for a k8s node are actually pretty high lol

#

Not cheap to run a k8s cluster

cosmic raft
#

i'm not talking production

#

just testing

gloomy sphinx
#

tell that to my pi cluster

cosmic raft
#

i don't even pay them, so "customer"

old badge
rose pier
#

Where would you guys recommend going to find people to help bootstrap (ideas/building/...) a new PaperMC backed server I'm starting? It's a well-managed semi-vanilla survival build server targeting mature players, providing a chill and cooperative atmosphere with shared farms etc.

merry talon
#

that's an age old question

rose pier
#

And places/communities come and go.

#

Thing is the server isn't very established yet. So regular server advertising doesn't fit very well.

merry talon
#

you'll probably be best off finding like minded people on mature discord servers

orchid pelican
#

Anyone have a guide on setting up s server as a service like I followed one but it gives no output or anything. I used a screen command but when I run screen -list no sockets show up so I assume the server didnโ€™t start

rose pier
#

Do you know of any such general servers for Minecraft? I looked a bit and I only seemed to find private ones for their own servers.

merry talon
#

I don't, no

rose pier
#

@orchid pelican You need to do screen -ls

merry talon
#

what you're asking isn't easy

#

about everyone on earth has wanted the same

rose pier
#

Heh, hence my asking.

#

But alright. Thanks for your input.

#

@orchid pelican If it hasn't been started you should check logs for the service.

merry talon
#

it's hard to recommend any one place because it's just gonna be kids everywhere

orchid pelican
#

How do I check the logs

#

Never setup a server as a service before

merry talon
#

reddit maybe? the audience could be older there

rose pier
#

Is it a systemd service?

#

@merry talon Yeah, I may well try that.

orchid pelican
#

Yes it is

merry talon
#

that's probably not the best idea

rose pier
#

journalctl -u service-name.service

merry talon
#

if you want to interact with it, I'd say just run it in tmux on a loop

orchid pelican
#

Isnโ€™t screen the same as tmux

rose pier
#

They fill the same role.

merry talon
#

essentially, but tmux is better

orchid pelican
#

Opinions

merry talon
#

Not exactly, it has more features

#

screen is barebones

rose pier
#

Heh. In this case it's probably a 80%/20% split in favor of tmux. I myself use screen, but only due to happenstance.

merry talon
#

well I use docker whenever possible lol

#

but tmux is probably best for his use case

rose pier
#

I opted to not use docker for mine. It's dedicated and I don't need multiple instances or anything else fancy.

merry talon
#

I dunno if I'd bother if I'm just running a quick test server

#

but I'd run pterodactyl in prod which does that all for you

#

because SIGINTing the wrong pane sucks

dire pawn
minor otter
#

On a server, you can shoot bullets (snowballs) thru weapons (tools). Now we have shotguns and automatic rifles etc.. However, does someone know why it makes the server lag when a lot of snowballs are being fired?

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I cant seem to understand the logic of it. Does Paper use a lot of CPU on snowballs? or

limber knotBOT
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@minor otter [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

rose pier
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Snowballs are entities. You might experience the same lag with the same amount of chickens instead.

merry talon
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Yeah uh minecraft doesnt handle projectiles particularly well

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So when you have a machine gun that goes awry quick

gloomy sphinx
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2b2t is the only survival server i know that does well lol

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rust is a shit show

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i would say they are completely different

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the game is entierly different

unreal quarry
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plays rust to dig for diamonds

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yup. not working

gloomy sphinx
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rust is mostly a shooter

unreal quarry
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so its a shooter, not a survival game

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(hint, mc is a survival game)

gloomy sphinx
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yeah there is no surviving in rust

unreal quarry
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i really hate how people call something shit for not doing something well that it was never designed to do... "that fish is shit because it cant climb that tree"

gloomy sphinx
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plus maps reset, maps are super small, guns, need a group to play no solo

unreal quarry
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shitty fish

gloomy sphinx
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factions were before rust anyway

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yes

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maps are tiny

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no

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i have like

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200 hours only

merry talon
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I've always thought rust has had a lot of potential as a survival game with pvp on the side

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But it's mostly about pvp now

gloomy sphinx
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yeah

unreal quarry
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exactly what sweepy just said

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i bought rust. thought i'd enjoy it.

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nope.

gloomy sphinx
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originally it was more survival

unreal quarry
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community is shit

gloomy sphinx
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now its got a shit community with one way to play

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pretty much kill people right away or be killed

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it is essentially 2b2t with guns

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yes

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factions is a lot more peaceful

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you can survive years on factions

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and build a nice base

unreal quarry
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i cant play a game where the overall mentality is to shoot on sight the first person you see instead of trying to play the game with them and have fun

gloomy sphinx
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while surviving and mob grinding

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it is a much more survival experience

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not to mention all the cool plugins and pvp contained areas

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rust modded cant really emulate the experience either

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the only thing rust and factions has in common is raiding a base

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pretty much it

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that music is worse than you saying factions and rust are the same

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no

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pvp with guns

cursive narwhal
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Yo, if I want to regenerate world without changing the terrain and killing players I can just delete everything in region folder in my start.sh right? I'm not going crazy?

unreal quarry
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let just be honest. pvp really ruins games because of the way children treat them. they never play the games as they were intended (battlefield is played like call of duty now, the division is also player like cod, etc).

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see someone, shoot them. fuck the objective

acoustic pilot
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That's competition in general.

rose pier
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CSGO is rather objective oriented.

acoustic pilot
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You can see the same issue in all competitive aspects of life, and it's toxic.