#general | PaperMC | Page 151

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:03 AM

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void void May 23, 2019, 3:04 AM

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yes i can see the events

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Hmm.

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Try DragEvent?

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Nevermind.

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that's for dragging.

void void May 23, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Yeh handling that one already but not sure if it works (i.e. a shift-click in inv -> chest = puts item in)

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Oh shift click in inv?

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That's InventoryClickEvent.

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And you're going to want to check the ClickType.

void void May 23, 2019, 3:04 AM

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I just want to detect when items are moved from one inventory to another.

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Not just shift click.

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Dragging would work, shift clicking would work

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But is there an event specifically for putting an item into a chest

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Or do I need to listen to multiple events for all the different ways someone can put an item in a chest

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:05 AM

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wElL dEsIgNeD aPi

void void May 23, 2019, 3:05 AM

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I'll take that as I have to listen to multiple events?

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:06 AM

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My web browser just went kaboom when I tried to type something in

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And my computer is frozen

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I was checking Javadocs for you but give me a second.

void void May 23, 2019, 3:07 AM

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im looking in there but I don't see one specifically for what I need

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so I'll need to piece together all the events that can tell me about a transition

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drag would be one, which is done already

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Specifically, what do you need?

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When an item is moved into a CHEST by a PLAYER?

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Specifically that?

void void May 23, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Yes. But all the different ways it can be done, so that nothing is missed.

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Hmm, what API version?

void void May 23, 2019, 3:08 AM

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1.13.2 atm

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Spigot or Paper?

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:08 AM

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player can place a hopper and die on top of it :^)

void void May 23, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Paper is fine if they have an event for this

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Smh

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Well, that sucks.

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Tell you what.

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:09 AM

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hey, you didn't want anything to be missed

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:09 AM

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I'm going to search the 1.14 Javadocs for all of the 1.12 things we saw above.

void void May 23, 2019, 3:09 AM

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I mean, yeah but shit lol

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:09 AM

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That's a good compromise because I don't see any 1.13.2 javadocs anywhere.

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:09 AM

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i mean the real question is how much do you care about knowing if it's a player

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you have a real xy problem on your hands atm

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:10 AM

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What about InventoryEvent?

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:10 AM

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can't listen to events without handler lists

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thonk

void void May 23, 2019, 3:10 AM

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I care if it's a player, don't care about non-player initiated

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and who said anything about listening w/o handler lists

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:10 AM

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InventoryEvent

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so, you do care if a player kills themselves on a hopper?

void void May 23, 2019, 3:11 AM

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oh

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Yeah, I do. So I'll have to figure that out lol

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:11 AM

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what about if a player lures a creeper up to a skeleton, killing the skeleton, dropping a music disc into the hopper into the chest?

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:11 AM

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OK

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LIKE

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What is InventoryClickEvent?

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Sorry.

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What is InventoryCreativeEvent?

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:12 AM

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click = clicking shit in an inventory

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:12 AM

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pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:12 AM

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creative = getting shit from creative inventory

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:12 AM

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I don't see an InventorySurvivalEvent?

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It includes hotbar.

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:12 AM

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yes? that's part of the inventory

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believe it or not

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:12 AM

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So it's basically just InventoryClickEvent but an if statement if they're in creative??¿¿

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:12 AM

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do you understand OOP

void void May 23, 2019, 3:12 AM

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@pulsar wigeon Nah. I'm trying to catch deliberate movements into a chest from an inventory. So yeah I see what you're saying lol. The player killing himself on top of a hopper would be a major edge case there...but it's also some shit I see people doing lmao.

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:12 AM

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or are you baiting

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you realize creative players have survival inventories too?

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:13 AM

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Yeah I just mean..

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:13 AM

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simple, what for?

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again, http://xyproblem.info

The XY Problem

Asking about your attempted solution rather than your actual problem

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:13 AM

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I just genuinely don't understand the difference between InventoryCreativeEvent and InventoryClickEvent + if (event.getPlayer().getMode() == GameMode.CREATIVE) {}

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:14 AM

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because the creative inventory doesn't have items in it

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it's just an infinite item source

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:14 AM

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I mean I would understand if it's getting creative items from the unlimited supply. That makes sense.

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But it also includes the hotbar.. which makes it a tad bit useless?

void void May 23, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Is this really XY though lol. I'm asking about how to track when a player deliberately moves an item from an inventory in a chest. WHY I'm doing that doesn't really matter. But if you must know, it's so I can record to a database every time they do so.

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I want to make sure I am recording every time they put an item in a chest.

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Maybe I'm just not understanding something.

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Not baiting or anything I just don't see how it's useful since it includes the hotbar which means it's not exclusively from the creative inventory.

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:16 AM

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so, dropping an item in water that flows into a hopper and goes into a chest counts too?

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also do you actually care about it being a chest?

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what if there's 4 hoppers in a loop

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and they just keep juggling an item around forever

void void May 23, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Just a chest. Forget the edge cases.

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:17 AM

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are you going to record all that

void void May 23, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Good lord

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:18 AM

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InventoryInteractEvent and it's known subclasses should work..

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:19 AM

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well you just went from all the different ways it can be done, so that nothing is missed. to Forget the edge cases.

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so it's clearly an xy problem because you don't actually have a well defined scope of what you are trying to do

void void May 23, 2019, 3:19 AM

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Ok wiz. Thanks.

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:19 AM

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My method of finding when an event is called is just throw the event in, and then put Bukkit.broadcast(event.getName() + " has been called!");

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Then just find whatever you can do that doesn't trigger it and then find more events.

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And if it's calling it from too many things, check if you can add some if statements in there.

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That's my general workflow on finding exactly when an event is called.

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:21 AM

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that sounds pretty dumb tbh

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:21 AM

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What's your method, then?

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Bet it takes longer than mine :P

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:21 AM

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i usually just shift shift eventname enter ctrl+b

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:21 AM

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thonk

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:22 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/5ItCXkJ.png

Imgur

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takes about 3 seconds

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:22 AM

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So then you have to go through the code to figure it out?

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I prefer testing in the battlefield myself.

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Getting your hands dirty, y'know?

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I'm going to go.. do something else.

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Good luck with your adventures, Simple.

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Wiz, you keep.. doing that, .. oki

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Oh whoa I'm there too oui oui.

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That key thing really does work, huh.

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Doesn't tell you when it's called though >_>

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:25 AM

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i mean you can go to each construction which is more useful imo

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so you can see what params go into it

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it's called generally within the next few lines anyway

stiff yarrow May 23, 2019, 3:40 AM

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@pulsar wigeon what does shift shift do peepoGiga

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:41 AM

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search everywhere

stiff yarrow May 23, 2019, 3:41 AM

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I thought that was ctrl shift F

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 3:41 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/bpbsaNL.png

Imgur

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ctrl shift F is search text

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does not match symbols, actions, etc

quasi falcon May 23, 2019, 3:49 AM

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austere ivy May 23, 2019, 3:52 AM

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Hey there.

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I just need to check a player's ontime.

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Ontime rankup plugin, basic stuff.

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Do I need a database or can I just reliably check their playtime statistic?

ancient bolt May 23, 2019, 4:23 AM

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the LCD on my UPS says 10%

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cinnamon says 32% battery

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🤔

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also the % on the UPS is going down really quickly, I wonder if I haven't exercised it enough in the past

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should run it down more often

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oh cinnamon's % display just hadn't updated

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they match now

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I guess I am running a really power hungry desktop along with 3 1440p monitors and all my other peripherals

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adds up to a lot of power

cedar herald May 23, 2019, 4:32 AM

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wooden meteor May 23, 2019, 5:03 AM

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dusk drift May 23, 2019, 5:05 AM

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When skeles pickup and equip armor
Does the EntityPickupItemEvent fire?

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or is it a different one?

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Hard to test since skeles have such a fucking low chance of actually taking armor

left yacht May 23, 2019, 5:47 AM

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@cosmic raft I finally had to purge coreprotect 😦

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drive filled up

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had 50GB free

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 5:47 AM

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can i replace paper with spigot with no issues?

left yacht May 23, 2019, 5:47 AM

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when I mean purge I mean DROP DATABASE;

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 5:47 AM

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yes Rxlizard

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sorry i mean can i replace spigot with paper with no issues

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yes

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 5:48 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20190522-224758.png

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@left yacht

left yacht May 23, 2019, 5:48 AM

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that sass

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smh

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 5:48 AM

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thank you robo been having lots of tps issues with like 10 or more players on hope its an ez fix

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 5:49 AM

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And now your database, @left yacht, is in a

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📎 Screenshot_20190522-224912.png

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because now

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📎 Screenshot_20190522-225217.png

left yacht May 23, 2019, 5:52 AM

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getting harassed help @ornate spindle

ornate spindle May 23, 2019, 5:53 AM

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all I can say is that's https://i.tcpr.ca/DZLlDZi

obsidian mauve May 23, 2019, 5:56 AM

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I don't know what's going on in this chat, but I like it

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 5:56 AM

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why do they always have to https://i.imgur.com/rhZMvfF.png

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20601475-55fc-4828-a9e6-1d9d28605a6f

placid thicket May 23, 2019, 5:56 AM

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tell me if i am wrong, but when you are running paper, is there any need to change the bukkit/spigot YML files?

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 5:57 AM

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they still apply, if that's what you're asking

obsidian mauve May 23, 2019, 5:57 AM

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You don't need to edit the files for Paper to work or anything

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It should be a drag and drop kinda deal

placid thicket May 23, 2019, 5:57 AM

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more or less wondering if there is any point of messing with configs

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 5:58 AM

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and now @left yacht must be thinking https://i.imgur.com/Uyr43n5.png

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724e444d-0905-46cb-85f2-504174a7622d

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:01 AM

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Ryan

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 6:02 AM

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when putting paper in replace of spigot

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:02 AM

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Purge your CoPr database.

placid thicket May 23, 2019, 6:02 AM

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no MC forums and now this?!

📎 unknown.png

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:02 AM

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Purge your identity.

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 6:02 AM

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the console says its up but i cant connect

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 6:02 AM

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factorio? good

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down for a reason :p

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:02 AM

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I want factorio so much

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Looks amazing

placid thicket May 23, 2019, 6:02 AM

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T H E F A C T O R Y M U S T G R O W

void void May 23, 2019, 6:03 AM

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oh wey if u turn of auth

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😂

placid thicket May 23, 2019, 6:03 AM

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really fun, but you will waist waaay too much time

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:03 AM

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But then i think, can this computer even RUN factorio?

placid thicket May 23, 2019, 6:03 AM

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it has a potatoe vision mode

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:03 AM

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Probably not. So that 50$ on Factorio goes to a new computer fund!

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No way really?

placid thicket May 23, 2019, 6:04 AM

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50?! nowhere near that much fam...

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:04 AM

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Oh it’s 30$

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Huh

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 6:04 AM

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i need things to watch

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tv series, movies

placid thicket May 23, 2019, 6:05 AM

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@austere ivy take this and test, https://www.factorio.com/download-demo

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:05 AM

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kash

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The Killing

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 6:05 AM

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seen it

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many times

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:05 AM

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It’s on Netflix, watch only 1st season

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Oh

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Hmmmmmmmmmm

placid thicket May 23, 2019, 6:05 AM

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gurren Laggan? (think that's how its spelt)

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:06 AM

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I’ll watch Endgame with you :)

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Mind if my mother watches too?

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 6:06 AM

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heh

void void May 23, 2019, 6:06 AM

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factorio good game until u geting bored cuz od easynes of the game

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(late stage)

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 6:06 AM

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maybe I'll start WWDITS

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:06 AM

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I’ve been planning on watching it with her, so it could be a fun movie night lol

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WWDITS?

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 6:06 AM

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anyone else have this issue i threw in paper-626 and launched the server the previous spigot was 1.13.2 and now no one can connect to the server it cant even ping it in the minecraft server list

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 6:06 AM

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What We Do in the Shadows

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.g What We Do in the Shadows

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 6:06 AM

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(DiscordBot) https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/what-we-do-in-the-shadows -- What We Do in the Shadows | Episodes | FX Networks: "FX's new comedy What We Do in the Shadows follows four vampires who have been roommates for hundreds of years in New York."

FXNetworks

What We Do in the Shadows

FX's new comedy What We Do in the Shadows follows four vampires who have been roommates for hundreds of years in New York.

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:06 AM

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Ah

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What abouuuut

void void May 23, 2019, 6:07 AM

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wach damn god weird cancer

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:07 AM

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Friends

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The office

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 6:08 AM

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yuck

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to both

void void May 23, 2019, 6:08 AM

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Can't seem to get the item that's picked up in InventoryClickEvent. When using getCurrentItem() and getCursor() I get Air. When using Inventory#getItem(getSlot()) then I get null.

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:08 AM

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Parks and rec

void void May 23, 2019, 6:08 AM

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watfak.gif

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:08 AM

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;O

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The Good Place

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The good place is super good

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 6:09 AM

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maybe I'll re-watch The Good Wife

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:09 AM

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The good PLACE

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 6:09 AM

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no

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The Good Wife

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:09 AM

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Not wife silly

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 6:09 AM

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.g The Good Wife

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 6:09 AM

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(DiscordBot) https://www.cbs.com/shows/the_good_wife/ -- The Good Wife - CBS.com: "Watch full episodes of The Good Wife, view video clips and browse photos on CBS.com. Join the conversation and connect with CBS's The Good Wife."

The Good Wife - CBS.com

Watch full episodes of The Good Wife, view video clips and browse photos on CBS.com. Join the conversation and connect with CBS's The Good Wife.

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:09 AM

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.g the good place

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 6:09 AM

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(DiscordBot) https://www.nbc.com/the-good-place -- The Good Place - NBC.com: "The Good Place - Watch episodes on NBC.com and the NBC App. Kristen Bell and Ted Danson star in this comedy about becoming a better person."

NBC

The Good Place - NBC.com

The Good Place - Watch episodes on NBC.com and the NBC App. Kristen Bell and Ted Danson star in this comedy about becoming a better person.

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:10 AM

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BB and BCS?

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 6:10 AM

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?

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:10 AM

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Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul

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You seem to like darker shows

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 6:10 AM

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I do, yes

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:10 AM

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Not comedies apparently >:(

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 6:10 AM

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nope

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I can just barely handle B99

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:11 AM

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The office is gold and you have ~~different~~ bad taste

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:(

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 6:11 AM

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don't like it

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:12 AM

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Unironically, Please don’t kick me I’m on mobile and that would actually be a large pain to get back on

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Hmm well what about The Haunting of Hill House

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 6:12 AM

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seen

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:12 AM

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Good show, beautifully shot and made.

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Hmm

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Stranger Things I’m guessing.

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The Truman Show?

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 6:14 AM

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seen ST, never heard of TTS

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:14 AM

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That one was good and I don’t like Jim Carrey.

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Back to the future

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The revenant, inception

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Shawshank Redemption was AMAZING.

native thunder May 23, 2019, 6:16 AM

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The office has too much of that aekcnd hand embarrassment

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I can't deal with it

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:16 AM

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Se7en

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 6:16 AM

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I don't like older movies that much

queen rapids May 23, 2019, 6:16 AM

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truman show was great

native thunder May 23, 2019, 6:16 AM

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Second*

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 6:16 AM

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Later seasons it gets more heartwarming though

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Just a comedy style I guess lol

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Truman show makes you question your own existence

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John Wick

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Gravity falls

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Emperors new groove

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^ amazing

merry talon May 23, 2019, 6:58 AM

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simple? lefbad

void void May 23, 2019, 7:00 AM

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I put it in #paper-dev

merry talon May 23, 2019, 7:02 AM

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oh

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now I can post this

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https://github.com/zloirock/core-js/issues/548

GitHub

Get rid of postinstall message · Issue #548 · zloirock/core-js

My installation log isn't your advertising space. If you want donations, do the right thing and promote yourself in places where it belongs. My logs are long enough as it is without this. T...

void void May 23, 2019, 7:08 AM

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Hmm not sure how I feel about it.

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Just read that entire thread and wtf

merry talon May 23, 2019, 7:28 AM

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Its stupid

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Third last comment puts it well

worn ember May 23, 2019, 7:29 AM

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Lmao

merry talon May 23, 2019, 7:31 AM

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Like, could you imagine

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If every package did that

void void May 23, 2019, 7:32 AM

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I was on his train for a bit until his most recent comment.

merry talon May 23, 2019, 7:32 AM

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The author is not the one who gets to make the decision whether or not his package is big enough to warrant the begging

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It should just be banned

void void May 23, 2019, 7:32 AM

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What the fuck did he do that prompted him to put that on there

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Don't know if you guys read the entire thread but something about he fucked up and is in major legal trouble, like major. And is being very very vague about it.

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That is apparently his reason, and he is now keeping it on there

merry talon May 23, 2019, 7:33 AM

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Yeah I didnt even read into that stupidity

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Dont care

void void May 23, 2019, 7:33 AM

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Bigyikes.gif

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watevs

merry talon May 23, 2019, 7:34 AM

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He can be living on the streets and I still dont want his spam in my install log

void void May 23, 2019, 7:35 AM

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i wonder isz it poosible to run mc versions from cmd line without crapy launcher

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lancher takes 200mb ish ram

merry talon May 23, 2019, 7:36 AM

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does it not close after you launch it?

void void May 23, 2019, 7:36 AM

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it is in background tho

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lol

merry talon May 23, 2019, 7:36 AM

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close it then

void void May 23, 2019, 7:37 AM

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finding more eficient ways

worn ember May 23, 2019, 7:40 AM

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Just run the jar on itself then

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Idk how to add parameters tho

void void May 23, 2019, 7:42 AM

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Could not find or load main class net.minecraft.client.Main lal its not posible from cmd

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fugg

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:42 AM

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I don’t understand why people get so damn upset about log messages from free software they’re using

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If it bothers them, don’t fucking use it. Dumb fucks.

void void May 23, 2019, 7:43 AM

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it uses 1% of cpu

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thats why

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and few mb/kb of hdd space

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:43 AM

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don’t fucking use it

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No is is forcing anyone to use the library

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No one*

void void May 23, 2019, 7:44 AM

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everyone

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:44 AM

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I’m too angry to write words lel

void void May 23, 2019, 7:44 AM

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lal free sofware logs iz money

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no suport da shekels

native thunder May 23, 2019, 7:45 AM

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Did you see how many times to got spammed lol

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:45 AM

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He sends the message once.

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Libraries depending on his library will trigger the messages again

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Everyone is using his shit, no one is contributing to his shit. People don’t contribute then get upset because of a few messages. Boo fucking hoo

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Get some perspective and stop being a little bitch. It’s a fucking log message on installation, who cares?

void void May 23, 2019, 7:46 AM

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ahahahaahah

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:46 AM

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God damn I hate people

void void May 23, 2019, 7:47 AM

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works best

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@heady spear except the thing is, if you read the entire thread, it doesn't just send once.

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:50 AM

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The postinstall message is triggered several times, I mentioned that in my message

void void May 23, 2019, 7:50 AM

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https://hastebin.com/agitefacof.cpp

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yes

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several

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:50 AM

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Yes, because postinstall is triggered several times

void void May 23, 2019, 7:51 AM

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I understand that

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:51 AM

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Thank you for using core-js ( https://github.com/zloirock/core-js )!

Please consider supporting of core-js on Open Collective or Patreon: 
> https://opencollective.com/core-js 
> https://www.patreon.com/zloirock 

Also, the author of core-js ( https://github.com/zloirock ) is looking for a good job -)

this is his message

void void May 23, 2019, 7:51 AM

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yup

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:51 AM

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that's what he is printing in postinstall

void void May 23, 2019, 7:51 AM

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correct

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:51 AM

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I understand that it's annoying, but it literally doesn't harm anyone

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they can turn the messages off, which was also mentioned

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then that fucking kid went on a rant about how upset this makes him and that he won't consider any of the reasons behind this blablabla

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like get a fucking grip you literal ashtray

void void May 23, 2019, 7:52 AM

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I'm standing on the outlines of this one.

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"%systemdrive%\Logs" 
"%LOCALAPPDATA%\Google\CrashReports" 
"%AppData%\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Crash Reports" 
"%ProgramFiles(x86)%\Mozilla Maintenance Service\logs" 
"%systemdrive%\Intel\Logs" 
"%AppData%\Roaming\IObit\IObit Uninstaller\Log" 
"%AppData%\Roaming\IObit\IObit Uninstaller\UMlog" 
"%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\logs" 
"%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\crash-reports" 
"%ProgramFiles(x86)%\eemap\logs" 
"%systemroot%\prefetch\" 
"%TEMP%\logs" 
"%systemdrive%\Logs" 
"%ProgramFiles(x86)%\Mozilla Maintenance Service\logs" 
"%systemdrive%\Intel\Logs" 
"%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Oracle\Java\.oracle_jre_usage" 
"%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\logs" 
"%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\crash-reports" 
"%ProgramFiles(x86)%\eemap\logs" ```

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😍

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:52 AM

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We had the same fucking complaints about PlotSquared because we decided to link to paper on startup

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people were like "REMOVE THIS NOW BECAUSE IT MAKES ME SAD WHEN I LOOK AT THE LOGS MEEHEEHEHEHE"

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First of all, who the fuck just sits there and reads the logs all day? Get a life, honestly.

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And if you use the code I've written, WITHOUT MODIFYING IT, you will also have to read the messages I decided to include in MY SOFTWARE that YOU ARE WILLINGLY USING

twilit quarry May 23, 2019, 7:54 AM

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If you can't handle such a message just don't run a server

void void May 23, 2019, 7:54 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Entitled fuckfaces shouldn't be in software development at all

void void May 23, 2019, 7:54 AM

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LOL

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looks at just about the entire MC development community

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yeah

twilit quarry May 23, 2019, 7:54 AM

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😂

void void May 23, 2019, 7:55 AM

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😂

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iam writing free software that deletes logs now

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yes

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thank yu

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put a donation link in the logs of your log deleter

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LOL

twilit quarry May 23, 2019, 7:55 AM

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The reactions on the latest post in #announcements are triggering me

void void May 23, 2019, 7:55 AM

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OFFC

twilit quarry May 23, 2019, 7:55 AM

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Why are people so chaotic

void void May 23, 2019, 7:56 AM

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haha because people

quasi valley May 23, 2019, 7:56 AM

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now it's perfect

void void May 23, 2019, 7:56 AM

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i fixed it now

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lol

twilit quarry May 23, 2019, 7:57 AM

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There's one 75 left PanGTriggered

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:57 AM

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Everyone is saying is free and that's why the author can do whatever he wants. And yet so many people are browsing ad-powered websites for free, but use AdBlock to hide them.
How did he think this was a good argument? > People are douchebags all the time, and don't support other creators. So why should I have to??

void void May 23, 2019, 7:57 AM

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making log deleter to log minecraft sesion files

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and automaticaly obtain latest version from internet lol

merry talon May 23, 2019, 7:57 AM

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"If you dont like it dont use it" has always been a fundamentally stupid argument because it means nothing and just stifles improvement

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:58 AM

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You can make your own fork and remove the messages.

merry talon May 23, 2019, 7:58 AM

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you may not want to turn it off in that sense because other important messages come from the same place

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:58 AM

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The author of whatever project you're using don't have to do squat

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They owe you exactly nothing

merry talon May 23, 2019, 7:58 AM

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That's not true

void void May 23, 2019, 7:58 AM

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or donate jokbon and he will make logs disapear

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lol

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:58 AM

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Telling them to do something because I don't like the current state is stupid.

merry talon May 23, 2019, 7:59 AM

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They owe us not devaluing important log output

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:59 AM

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what? lol.

void void May 23, 2019, 7:59 AM

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Step one: del *.log

heady spear May 23, 2019, 7:59 AM

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Then don't use their shit and write your own shit. They spent their time and effort creating something, they never forced you to use it

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Stop being an entitled prick and go make your own library if it bothers you

merry talon May 23, 2019, 7:59 AM

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ah, you'll never get it

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so 🤷

void void May 23, 2019, 7:59 AM

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Step 2: del license.txt

stiff yarrow May 23, 2019, 8:00 AM

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why is city so worked up

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:00 AM

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y'all are acting as if software developers owes you a good experience lol

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:00 AM

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No one is saying that

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:00 AM

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You are, though?

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 8:00 AM

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god I wish I could see Alegria live one day

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:00 AM

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We're saying they owe us not a bad experience

cosmic raft May 23, 2019, 8:00 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fllDB3FK7pI

YouTube

Оксана Красильникова

Cirque du Soleil - Alegria

Cirque du Soleil Alegria Collage Song: Francesca Gagnon - Alegria

▶ Play video

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 8:00 AM

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(DiscordBot) Cirque du Soleil - Alegria - length 6m 9s - 24,528 likes, 844 dislikes (96.7%) - 8,254,334 views - Оксана Красильникова on 2007.05.22

void void May 23, 2019, 8:00 AM

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because people are mad that some dude is putting donation links and a "i need a job" msg in his postinstall

and city is mad that they're mad

there ya go @stiff yarrow theres the tea

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:00 AM

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They don't owe you squat, that's the thing. If you have a bad experience using their product, you may opt not to use it

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:01 AM

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you can't call not spamming logs a feature

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that's wrong

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:01 AM

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You can not, however, force the author to improve your experience.

twilit quarry May 23, 2019, 8:01 AM

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If you feel like you're having a bad experience, switch to something else or make your own? PES2_Shrug

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:01 AM

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Right, but you're using that as an argument to not have this discussion

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Which is fucking stupid

worn ember May 23, 2019, 8:01 AM

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@merry talon lemme spam your logs bby

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:01 AM

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No, I am saying that the entire fucking discussion stems out of nonsensical entitlement

void void May 23, 2019, 8:01 AM

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Okay u can steal other logs tho
xcopy *.log
you wont need to make log then

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:02 AM

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lol

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not at all

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:02 AM

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You can have the discussion if you want, there's just no way you'll end up not looking like a fucking ass in the end 🤷

quasi valley May 23, 2019, 8:02 AM

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the issue author put it that way, but the issue itself doesn't come from entitlement

worn ember May 23, 2019, 8:02 AM

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Just save your logs to Dev/null

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Ez

twilit quarry May 23, 2019, 8:02 AM

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#announcements still triggering me aPES_Triggered

void void May 23, 2019, 8:02 AM

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fixed

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:03 AM

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so you're ok with windows update deleting your shit because you're not entitled for them not to do that I reckon

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:03 AM

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I don't use windows, I don't really care. You also paid to use the software, there's the difference.

void void May 23, 2019, 8:03 AM

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i delete windows update

quasi valley May 23, 2019, 8:03 AM

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you paid them for a good experience 👀

void void May 23, 2019, 8:03 AM

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i even delete music apps

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:03 AM

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That's not an answer

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:03 AM

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If I pay to use something I can expect a certain standard.

void void May 23, 2019, 8:03 AM

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i even deleted control panel lol

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:03 AM

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If I am not paying for it, I cannot expect the same standard.

worn ember May 23, 2019, 8:04 AM

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What if Linux did it

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You didn't pay them

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:04 AM

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Also, "deleting your shit" and printing a few log messages are wildly different things

worn ember May 23, 2019, 8:04 AM

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No.

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:04 AM

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strawmanning isn't really my thing, but sure 🤷

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:04 AM

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Again, this is about devaluing something which would be fine left untouched

worn ember May 23, 2019, 8:04 AM

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Is that some weird position?

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:04 AM

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Not about not adding value

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:05 AM

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If whatever linux distro I used included something that annoyed me enough, I'd switch distros. You as the consumer have the choice to use other products.

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:05 AM

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These are fundamentally different

void void May 23, 2019, 8:05 AM

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i wonder if every file wrote log how much that would have taken of space

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:05 AM

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He is devaluing his own product that you still did not pay for

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That's completely fine, lol

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He can do whatever the fuck he wants to with his project

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:05 AM

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So we're not allowed to ask him not to do that

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lul

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:06 AM

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You are allowed to, you're just not allowed to demand it

void void May 23, 2019, 8:06 AM

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after deleting all logs i freed up 2gb of system space lol

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😂

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:06 AM

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I never said you can't ask. Strawmanning once again, lol

worn ember May 23, 2019, 8:06 AM

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I saved 535 gb by deleting an old corrupted windows backup lol

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:06 AM

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You dont have to think very hard to see why this practice is not ok

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So this is very strange of you

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:07 AM

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Why is it not okay for him to include a 5 line message in the postinstall of his free-to-use open source library?

worn ember May 23, 2019, 8:07 AM

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If anything it's strange of you not to see other people's POV

void void May 23, 2019, 8:07 AM

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i saved 2gb more by deleting license.txt

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lol

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or user manual

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Oo

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:08 AM

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The messages can also be disabled by a simple cli argument

void void May 23, 2019, 8:08 AM

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I'm only not okay with it because of how many libraries depend on it, thus causing massive (absolutely massive) amounts of messages. And that goes to his credit, because he made a wonderful library and lots of people love it. Not knocking that, and I'm okay if it would only be printed once.

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:08 AM

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Disabled, along with important information from other packages

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So not really

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:09 AM

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The massive amount of messages is a side effect of what he did, he isn't responsible for other libraries depending on his.

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:09 AM

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He absolutely is lol

void void May 23, 2019, 8:09 AM

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this just stupid to log everything that exist

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So all the other libraries are supposed to stop using his library because now they're also spamming due to using his library?

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:09 AM

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in this case

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:09 AM

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🤔 How is he responsible for what other people do with his code?

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If it bothers them? Yes

void void May 23, 2019, 8:09 AM

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All they did was use the code.

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I'm not talking about normal devs.

worn ember May 23, 2019, 8:09 AM

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That's illegal

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:10 AM

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All he did was print a couple of strings.

worn ember May 23, 2019, 8:10 AM

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Arrest him

void void May 23, 2019, 8:10 AM

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I'm talking about libraries using his library, and then someone else uses the downstream.

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:10 AM

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Because he should have it in mind that what he's making has the SOLE PURPOSE of being depended on

worn ember May 23, 2019, 8:10 AM

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Isn't he going to jail anyway

void void May 23, 2019, 8:10 AM

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Now they get two messages. Using his, and using the other library that uses his.

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:11 AM

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He said he did it to contribute to the javascript ecosystem and that he doesn't use it on his own, which is pretty honourable lol. I don't think it's fair to paint him out as the bad guy here.

Either way, it doesn't matter if he made his library for others to depend on it. They can depend on something else. His library being an option does not force everyone to use it.

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I have several shitty libraries that I use for myself, that have the sole purpose of being depended on. Are you now forced to use them?

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:12 AM

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Sure but it's fair to expect it not to do dumb shit

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:12 AM

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It's fair to request it. He said he's not changing it. End of the fucking story, lol.

void void May 23, 2019, 8:12 AM

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i think there is too much speach about logs del *.log

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:12 AM

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uh

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yeah okay

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:13 AM

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You're free to request it, he is free to respond. People then starting saying that they're enraged by it, etc, which is taking it way too far.

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To be completely honest, I think it's a bit pathetic to begin with

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I wouldn't include messages in my own software begging for donations and/or work

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Would I be slightly annoyed by seeing the spam? Sure

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But I still believe what he is doing is completely within his right

void void May 23, 2019, 8:14 AM

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you shud include donation link only in ur website / download page

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tht it

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:14 AM

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I don't have any project that is comparable in size to his, but take PlotSquared, I would never start advertising myself or my shit in the plugin logs

void void May 23, 2019, 8:14 AM

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i wanna be up to speed on this convo but i got bored of scrolling back

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:14 AM

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I'm within my right to be a complete dickhead to everyone I meet

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:14 AM

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My name is listed in the credits that you can access via a command

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But that's it

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:15 AM

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Doesnt mean you should defend that decision

stiff yarrow May 23, 2019, 8:15 AM

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idk citys really mad about something

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:15 AM

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All donation links are listed on the software download page

stiff yarrow May 23, 2019, 8:15 AM

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that's all I've taken

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:15 AM

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Because if people cared enough to donate they'd care enough to search up the links

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Annoying people is really ineffective.

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That said, I still don't think it's fair to demand that the messages should be removed.

void void May 23, 2019, 8:15 AM

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something about annoying messages in software i guess

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i would say only thing: console spam donate me pls is not okay, that would have reverse effect

quasi valley May 23, 2019, 8:15 AM

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devs putting donation banners in logs + people crying enragedly about it

void void May 23, 2019, 8:15 AM

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^

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fork it duh

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some people crying because of it, some people crying because others are crying about it

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:16 AM

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^^

void void May 23, 2019, 8:16 AM

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or use another plugon

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:16 AM

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prplz has a brain, I see.

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:16 AM

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the problem is

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you act like because he made a decision its not ok to continue discussing the topic

void void May 23, 2019, 8:16 AM

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Forking is not always a solution because there a hundreds of downstream libraries that use the non-forked version and they all spit out the message on postinstall as well.

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:16 AM

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that's just obviously wrong

void void May 23, 2019, 8:17 AM

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i newer donated to someone who desperately spams pls donat

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So forking it, cool you fixed the main one. Now all the others ones you use still spit it out so unless they all switch to your fork, well

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You eliminated one of about 25 of the same message.

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:17 AM

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I said it's fine to ask for him to remove it, I said it's not fine to demand that he removes it

void void May 23, 2019, 8:17 AM

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That's the only problem I have with it. The concept of putting a dono link in the logs, I don't give a single fuck

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:17 AM

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you keep strawmanning and that makes me believe this conversation is useless in nature lol

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Ima go drink some coffee or something

void void May 23, 2019, 8:17 AM

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whcih plugin is the one in question?

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also grab me a coffee too

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It's core-js on npm

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not a plugin

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:18 AM

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you keep bringing that up when it has fucking nothing to do with anything

void void May 23, 2019, 8:18 AM

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make api donations.txt

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:18 AM

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I'm not sure you understand what it means

void void May 23, 2019, 8:18 AM

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where all users can use as one

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oh spamming in a library on install, yeah idk about that...

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they can do adwertising as much as they want there lol

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:18 AM

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Me: I don't think it's fair to attack him
You: You say we can't talk about this!!!!!

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Me: I don't think this is a problem
You: WOULD YOU CARE IF WINDOWS UPDATE DELETED ALL OF YOUR THINGS???

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:18 AM

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Your definition of attack here isnt important

quasi valley May 23, 2019, 8:18 AM

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well you also said we can't expect anything from any free project, which is probably the debatable part

void void May 23, 2019, 8:19 AM

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if people like it they write inside and donators just look at list and chose who deserves most

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@void void that's the entire convo, that's it; tea spilled

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lol

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:19 AM

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Kenny, I still stand by that. You can't reasonably expect for a free project to cater to your needs and wants.

shell vine May 23, 2019, 8:20 AM

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then why put it out there at all

void void May 23, 2019, 8:20 AM

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so this is definitely about an npm module? or what

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:20 AM

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Its about devaluing not adding value, again

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That doesn't apply

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:20 AM

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It was, I then complained about a similar experience with PlotSquared

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:20 AM

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yes @void void

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:20 AM

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Then again, the PlotSquared community is far more trashy than the npm community, so it might not be comparable

void void May 23, 2019, 8:20 AM

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yeah silly messages on npm module installing are dumb

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:20 AM

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I agree, it's dumb.

void void May 23, 2019, 8:21 AM

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not dumb enough for me to spend an hour talking about it

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:21 AM

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I don't agree with his way of advertising. But I think it's completely fair.

void void May 23, 2019, 8:21 AM

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i deleted factions cuz they adwertise desperately for example... every time u paste the plugin for new server... ugh disabling advertising on 24 of them...

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:21 AM

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you just dont care enough then

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It doesnt mean its dumb for someone else to

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:21 AM

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We had the exact same discussion about PlotSquared when we added the paper ad in there, which is where I formed most of my opinions about this

void void May 23, 2019, 8:22 AM

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paper ad? well thats just in the user's best interest :)

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a deprecation warning of sorts for spigot

shell vine May 23, 2019, 8:22 AM

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yea that actually makes a difference PepeHappy

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:22 AM

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I dont think that even bears much resemblance to installing 500 dependencies all of which could have important information and also all depend on this project

quasi valley May 23, 2019, 8:22 AM

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donating to a free project also makes a difference 👀

shell vine May 23, 2019, 8:22 AM

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nahh

void void May 23, 2019, 8:22 AM

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lmao ads change people opinions...

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no

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ads can help people find what they need
yes

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hi z

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:23 AM

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I don't think he's going to get any donations from the log spam

upper flicker May 23, 2019, 8:23 AM

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npm community drama

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:23 AM

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I still don't think it's fair for people to be "enraged" by it, lol

shell vine May 23, 2019, 8:23 AM

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lol add a startup delay unless they donate

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:23 AM

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Then I think you're just out of touch

upper flicker May 23, 2019, 8:23 AM

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It’s the internet people are enraged by stupid shit all the fucking time

void void May 23, 2019, 8:24 AM

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people donate because of ad?
no
people donate because its avesome?
yes

upper flicker May 23, 2019, 8:24 AM

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All day every god damn day

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:24 AM

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although, he did also complain about spending hours and hours on the project not making any money when he could have made money elsewhere and now he's broke

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like dude, that's on you lol

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the users don't owe you money, just like you don't owe them your time

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if you want money, go work

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Dumb asses thinking they'll get rich from donations. Gtfo of here

shell vine May 23, 2019, 8:25 AM

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bigeyethink

void void May 23, 2019, 8:25 AM

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people wont get donations just because of adverts in wrong places

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:25 AM

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I feel like I care too much about this shit

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this is why I stopped doing open source work completely lol, I don't like people

shell vine May 23, 2019, 8:26 AM

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mAYbe its just u

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😗

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:26 AM

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Yes, you're right. I'm a horrible person

void void May 23, 2019, 8:26 AM

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defacto other people make free work for u too

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lol

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:26 AM

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Good thing I got into it to begin with tho, considering you're using one of my project 😃

void void May 23, 2019, 8:26 AM

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and you dont have to pay

normal echo May 23, 2019, 8:27 AM

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Open source is pretty bad in regards to entitlement, but at the same time I still love it 😛

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:27 AM

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I like it, but the PlotSquared community turned into complete trash

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everyone is entitled and too dumb to read, it's just toxic lol

quasi valley May 23, 2019, 8:27 AM

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reading more than two lines is hard

shell vine May 23, 2019, 8:27 AM

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trickle down effect???

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omegalul

void void May 23, 2019, 8:27 AM

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i think open source should be synonymous with entitlement

upper flicker May 23, 2019, 8:27 AM

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_glances at the MC community _

void void May 23, 2019, 8:28 AM

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i said that exact thing about an hour ago, i can prove it

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:28 AM

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Z I left IS so now I'm homeless, can I move in with you?

void void May 23, 2019, 8:28 AM

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@upper flicker fak u

normal echo May 23, 2019, 8:28 AM

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https://twitter.com/github/status/1131470848513249280?s=19 neat

GitHub (@github)

Attention maintainers!
Maintainer Security Advisories are here to make your life easier and code more secure.

Disclose, resolve, and publish security patches—all without leaving GitHub.
#GitHubSatellite https://t.co/9kcpKTzSaP

▶ Play video

upper flicker May 23, 2019, 8:28 AM

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I’d have to see if the couch is already taken

shell vine May 23, 2019, 8:29 AM

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nice one twitter link takes up whole screen

upper flicker May 23, 2019, 8:29 AM

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Tiny screen

shell vine May 23, 2019, 8:29 AM

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well

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no

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:29 AM

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Or big zoom

void void May 23, 2019, 8:29 AM

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even on a big screen it takes more than half the screen

upper flicker May 23, 2019, 8:29 AM

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Compact mode for mobile when discord

quasi valley May 23, 2019, 8:29 AM

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probably because it's two messages

void void May 23, 2019, 8:29 AM

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dumcord

quasi valley May 23, 2019, 8:29 AM

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😂

merry talon May 23, 2019, 8:30 AM

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can we filter those out since it already embeds lol

void void May 23, 2019, 8:30 AM

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it would be nice if they made a light client that looked like shit but didnt cost you half your cpu time

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:30 AM

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anyways can I be done being mad now? because I forgot to actually get the coffee and now it smells burnt

upper flicker May 23, 2019, 8:30 AM

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rip

void void May 23, 2019, 8:31 AM

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you feel mad that other people dont donate to you.
i bet u using others stuff that u didnt donate to

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fair play

upper flicker May 23, 2019, 8:31 AM

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Low quality bait

void void May 23, 2019, 8:31 AM

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^

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Could've tried harder

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But it worked I think

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:31 AM

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I like the kid in the thread that was like "this is dumb because I use adblock so why would I want to see your ad?"

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<=> "I am an asshole to others so why would I be nice to you?"

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completely fair tbh, let's just treat everyone like shit

void void May 23, 2019, 8:32 AM

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Anarchy!

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xd

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.isup github.com

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 8:32 AM

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(DiscordBot) Huh? That doesn't look like a site on the interweb.

void void May 23, 2019, 8:32 AM

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excuse me

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okay now it loaded wtf

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:33 AM

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yeh it's being dum atm

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I think they're having some issues :<

void void May 23, 2019, 8:33 AM

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GITHUB? HOW COULD GITHUB HAVE ISSUES. GITHUB GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER FAK YOU GITHUB

upper flicker May 23, 2019, 8:33 AM

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They’re announcing stuff atm, probably got a bunch of extra load

shell vine May 23, 2019, 8:33 AM

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stop being entitled >:|

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:33 AM

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maybe they got too many postinstall messages and crashed idk

void void May 23, 2019, 8:34 AM

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YOU'RE ENTITLED BY EXPECTING ME TO STOP BEING ENTITLED

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AIN'T EVEN ENTITLED

quasi valley May 23, 2019, 8:34 AM

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disgusting

shell vine May 23, 2019, 8:34 AM

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PES2_OhShitMan

void void May 23, 2019, 8:34 AM

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Lov ya tho

normal echo May 23, 2019, 8:34 AM

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https://twitter.com/github/status/1131477404843741184?s=19 ah perfect

GitHub (@github)

Fund your open source project on your own terms 👩‍💻

With the new FUNDING.yml file, link to funding models including Open Collective, Community Bridge, and Tidelift.
#GitHubSatellite

https://t.co/Ptl2JMDXrS

void void May 23, 2019, 8:34 AM

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Sorry capslock was stuck for a second

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 8:34 AM

#

(DiscordBot) ✓@github (GitHub): Fund your open source project on your own terms 👩‍💻 With the new FUNDING.yml file, link to funding models includin… https://t.co/BLUmIiqrar (4 minutes and 34 seconds ago)

Twitter

GitHub

GitHub on Twitter

“Fund your open source project on your own terms 👩‍💻

With the new FUNDING.yml file, link to funding models including Open Collective, Community Bridge, and Tidelift.
#GitHubSatellite

https://t.co/Ptl2JMDXrS”

void void May 23, 2019, 8:35 AM

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Well, actually

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Nice

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yep thats the idea

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:35 AM

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I don't get donations ever since I left the p² development team and now I can't afford food

void void May 23, 2019, 8:35 AM

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iam hired lol

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:35 AM

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people making me starve

void void May 23, 2019, 8:35 AM

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./s

upper flicker May 23, 2019, 8:35 AM

#

https://github.com/sponsors

GitHub

GitHub Sponsors

Financially support the people behind your favorite open source projects with GitHub Sponsors.

void void May 23, 2019, 8:35 AM

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people starving too

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life is shit

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:36 AM

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I have the most lines commited to the project

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they're breaking licenses

void void May 23, 2019, 8:36 AM

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sign up zachary

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:36 AM

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should I do ze dmca

shell vine May 23, 2019, 8:36 AM

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u quit?

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:36 AM

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yes because they all dumb fucks

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Literally crying over fucking metrics all the time

shell vine May 23, 2019, 8:36 AM

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i thought you owned the whole thing

void void May 23, 2019, 8:36 AM

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wow pls dont

tribal yoke May 23, 2019, 8:36 AM

#

void void May 23, 2019, 8:36 AM

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over metrics? how?

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:36 AM

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Removing features from the bukkit version of the plugin making them paper only whereas using spigot API methods?

void void May 23, 2019, 8:36 AM

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people love u still

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:37 AM

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constant fucking complaints over bstats numbers being wrong

void void May 23, 2019, 8:37 AM

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he needs uganda aid package

shell vine May 23, 2019, 8:37 AM

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am confused

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:37 AM

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and then this kid jumps in out of nowhere pushing shit without telling everyone thinking he's in charge

void void May 23, 2019, 8:37 AM

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bstats is nothing bad

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:38 AM

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Oh, and then we had kids complain because they accidentally uploaded debug logs to my website while I was on a holiday so I didn't respond for 5 hours, so they were like "we're making a gdpr report!!! you are illegally accessing my data!!!!"

void void May 23, 2019, 8:38 AM

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bstats help people to make theyr decisions and see how theyr project growin up

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:39 AM

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so I just shut down all of the web services, handed over discord server ownership and got the fuck out of there. I don't have enough energy to spend on stupid kiddos lol

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PlotSquared and FAWE are both dead anyway so 🤷

void void May 23, 2019, 8:39 AM

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lmao

shell vine May 23, 2019, 8:39 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/alrighty-then-gif-7715492

Tenor

void void May 23, 2019, 8:39 AM

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fuck people then

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xD

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:39 AM

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PlotSquared is running on ~1500 servers. Not worth the time lol

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FAWE is just broken, unstable and unsafe

shell vine May 23, 2019, 8:40 AM

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just like your heart

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:40 AM

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I wouldn't recommend for anyone to use it on a production server

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It's fine if you're using it in a development environment with backups, I suppose

shell vine May 23, 2019, 8:40 AM

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Kek im jokin

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:40 AM

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PlotSquared isn't really production safe either because no fucking knows how to test the code before making releases

void void May 23, 2019, 8:40 AM

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haha he is still raging asf omg chill

stiff yarrow May 23, 2019, 8:40 AM

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Never let the boolys win city weSmart

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:41 AM

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Am just projecting lol

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my brother is in the intensive care unit and am sad but can't admit to being sad on the internet so I get the angeries instead

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also it's pollen season so my brain is doing the fog constantly

void void May 23, 2019, 8:42 AM

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whats cause of it

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if u cant dev project u can go to work.

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:43 AM

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my brother? his fucking pancreas exploded and the doctors were like "this cool man, u gon do great. go home and take some painkillers" and then he went into a coma like thanks

void void May 23, 2019, 8:43 AM

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I'm sorry to hear that man, understandable reaction

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fuck doctors

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i hate them

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also goverment that fill doctors with nonsense paper crap

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:43 AM

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also my wisdoom tooth is mildly infected and my apartment smells like garlic, anyone wants to fight?

quasi valley May 23, 2019, 8:44 AM

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tie it to a door and slam it

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(or go to a dentist, whichever sounds nicer 👀)

void void May 23, 2019, 8:44 AM

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make dmca on doctor

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no realy this is just wrong

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everytime shit hapens with health care

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I had all four of my wisdom teeth extracted

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That was a fun time

quasi valley May 23, 2019, 8:45 AM

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at once?

void void May 23, 2019, 8:45 AM

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Yes

quasi valley May 23, 2019, 8:45 AM

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oh boy, I luckily had two - two

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:45 AM

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fuck ._.

void void May 23, 2019, 8:45 AM

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ok gota work cuz ill starve by chating

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:45 AM

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altho I guess it's nice to have them all gone at the same time

void void May 23, 2019, 8:45 AM

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bye then

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not bragging but i had five out

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one extra

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Bye weks

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Lawl

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ok little brag

quasi valley May 23, 2019, 8:46 AM

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with all four you'll have a burning 1-2 weeks

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:46 AM

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I had a tooth pointing straight into my mouth that was removed. Fetal alcohol syndrom I think

void void May 23, 2019, 8:46 AM

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Yeah, I don't remember exactly what happened. I opted for general anesthetic so I was out lmao.

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:46 AM

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or inbreeding, not sure which

void void May 23, 2019, 8:46 AM

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I do remember 4 gigantic pits in my mouth though.

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Looked like a damn toddler

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:47 AM

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lol, it's really uncommon to go under general anesthetics for dental surgeries here

void void May 23, 2019, 8:47 AM

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Yeah I had the option to do local but I was like fuck it

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:47 AM

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dunno why :/ seems better

void void May 23, 2019, 8:47 AM

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I felt like it would be more uncomfortable during the surgery if it was local anesthetic

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So GA, I just felt to sleep and immediately woke up surgery done lmao. Much better time.

stiff yarrow May 23, 2019, 8:48 AM

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I only got half my wisdom teeth taken out, was too lazy to schedule apt for the others

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:48 AM

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I hate GA tho, feels like shit afterwards :/ Have to go under to have my thyroid removed, but idk how comfortable that would be without it lol

void void May 23, 2019, 8:49 AM

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I've only done GA once honestly, and I remember being so dazed afterward. But overall, I would not mind having it again over local. I don't like the feeling of my entire face being numb lmao

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Always bite my lip

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:50 AM

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There's no reason to have the wisdom teeth taken out unless they're actually going to cause issues. The older you get, the higher the risk for infection

void void May 23, 2019, 8:50 AM

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Mine were already causing issues unfortunately

heady spear May 23, 2019, 8:50 AM

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Yeah same, mine is growing into another tooth

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because why wouldn't it? fucking dumb ass teeth can't even grow properly

void void May 23, 2019, 8:51 AM

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Lmao, yeah. Mine were pushing out the wrong way, like, sideways almost. And they were breaking the inner gum tissue -.-

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Retarded teeth

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https://tenor.com/view/endusers-customers-end-users-programmerhumor-gif-13872480

Tenor

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End users ^

acoustic pilot May 23, 2019, 9:38 AM

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Me too, got mine pulled out a bit late (in my mid twenties). By that time they had already caused some irreversible crowding 😦

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But had it all pulled in one session under GA, same as you

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Went to sleep, woke up, and it was done

worn ember May 23, 2019, 10:39 AM

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I got mine pulled cuz my mouth was too small

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Stupid small mouths smh

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 11:32 AM

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is the uppercase world names issue for 1.14 ever going be resolved?

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im sure mojang doesnt know how :)

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 11:40 AM

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werent they just made case insensitive in spigot

velvet mortar May 23, 2019, 11:42 AM

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frosty marten May 23, 2019, 11:42 AM

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quartz vapor May 23, 2019, 12:31 PM

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ShopGUI+ finally updated to 1.14.1 😄
Anyone know of any good 1.14 pre made configs for it

acoustic pilot May 23, 2019, 12:34 PM

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ShopGUI+'s config structure is so bad, I'm suprised someone hasn't just written a config generator for it yet considering how popular it is

void void May 23, 2019, 12:37 PM

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lol

quartz vapor May 23, 2019, 12:37 PM

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a config gen would be amazing lol

acoustic pilot May 23, 2019, 12:39 PM

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In the past when I was still running my own server I had considered it, making my own better format and then feeding it thru a Python script that would generate the ShopGUI+ config

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Fortunately, I don't have to deal with that plugin any more 😃

orchid bear May 23, 2019, 12:54 PM

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ebon root May 23, 2019, 1:03 PM

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Does anyone here have salesforce ?

ashen rampart May 23, 2019, 1:11 PM

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void void May 23, 2019, 1:12 PM

#

lapis kelp May 23, 2019, 1:34 PM

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void void May 23, 2019, 1:36 PM

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@lapis kelp лох

gloomy sphinx May 23, 2019, 1:42 PM

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https://www.midori-browser.org/

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Midori alive!

lapis kelp May 23, 2019, 1:47 PM

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за мать извенись

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@void void

void void May 23, 2019, 1:49 PM

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@lapis kelp жду извинения

lapis kelp May 23, 2019, 2:01 PM

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vodka

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cheburashka

void void May 23, 2019, 2:02 PM

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📎 SDGDGled.png

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CYKA BLIAT

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:04 PM

#

e

void void May 23, 2019, 2:04 PM

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its not

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lmao

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:05 PM

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It’s hip hop

void void May 23, 2019, 2:05 PM

#

📎 zxfgxfgled.png

#

Putin says its photoshoped

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 2:05 PM

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i feel like some nationalists are planning a hostile takeover in paper discord's #general

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you'd think there's better places for that

void void May 23, 2019, 2:06 PM

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haha ok

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:13 PM

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@meager perch

#

What destroyed someone's career?

void void May 23, 2019, 2:14 PM

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What changes are in #39? It says "No changes".

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:15 PM

#

The changes are: "No changes"

#

Obviously /s

void void May 23, 2019, 2:15 PM

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Sounds shady

#

did they add some auto OP for certain players

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:15 PM

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It is.

void void May 23, 2019, 2:15 PM

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hmm

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:15 PM

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Definitely.

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That's what they did.

void void May 23, 2019, 2:16 PM

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hmmm

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Don't want to let me on your server.

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I've got it.

void void May 23, 2019, 2:16 PM

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is that a threat Brian??

#

my dad works at discord

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:16 PM

#

I was just about to log onto Hypixel and wreak some havoc, but I'm going to take a quick break, just destroyed Mineplex and The Hive.

#

100%, yes.

void void May 23, 2019, 2:16 PM

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i will have you banned

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:16 PM

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I WILL WREAK HAVOC ON HIS SERVER

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:D

void void May 23, 2019, 2:16 PM

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do you even know my ip m8

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:16 PM

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yeah it's 127.0.0.1

void void May 23, 2019, 2:17 PM

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fak

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:17 PM

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:D

void void May 23, 2019, 2:17 PM

#

brian

#

what do you think about the bedrock version

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 2:17 PM

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it's hard

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:18 PM

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eh

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I can't run it

#

I have a Macbook

void void May 23, 2019, 2:18 PM

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me too

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:18 PM

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so, for that reason, I don't like it very much

void void May 23, 2019, 2:18 PM

#

but like, the requirements for running a server must be way less right

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with that sweet sweet c++

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:18 PM

#

not exactly.

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 2:18 PM

#

guys java is a bad language because it's java right?

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:18 PM

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I'm not entirely knowledgable on it, but just since it's C++ doesn't mean it'll be a ton faster.

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

void void May 23, 2019, 2:19 PM

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cant you guys make mc using Erlang instead

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or why not a Haskell server?

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:19 PM

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I mean

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 2:19 PM

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🎣

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:19 PM

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You can I guess

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 2:19 PM

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yea go for it

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:19 PM

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🎣 🎣

void void May 23, 2019, 2:19 PM

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im gonna make a Haskell server

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 2:19 PM

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protocol info is all up there

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just have to write it ezpz

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:20 PM

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🎣 🍿 🥔

#

https://wiki.vg/Protocol

Protocol

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Get to it!

void void May 23, 2019, 2:20 PM

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what have I thrown myself into

acoustic pilot May 23, 2019, 2:21 PM

#

as I understand it, bedrock performance isn't too much better because internally it's designed much in the same way as the java version

void void May 23, 2019, 2:22 PM

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i see

acoustic pilot May 23, 2019, 2:22 PM

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poor design is why minecraft is slow

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not java

void void May 23, 2019, 2:22 PM

#

but at least you can do more low level stuff with c++ at least

#

could you like implement SSE and AVX stuff or is there a use case for that?

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 2:27 PM

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what makes you think java doesn't use those?

void void May 23, 2019, 2:27 PM

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i had no clue about that, ive only done it with C

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but thats cool

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 2:28 PM

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what is

void void May 23, 2019, 2:28 PM

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well, that java uses it, I can just imagine the headache to make it work for different cpu's

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 2:28 PM

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i never said it uses it

void void May 23, 2019, 2:29 PM

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oh I thought u knew, my bad

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:29 PM

#

Wiz is kind of new here.

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I'm mentoring him <3

#

It's okay wiz we'll learn about that stuff later.

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 2:29 PM

#

i was just wondering why you thought the presence of a VM necessitated that the VM can't optimize to the underlying platform

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like, if you have a dumb c/c++ compiler, it won't optimize those things either

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LUL

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:29 PM

#

Anyway Fredrik to answer your questions, the presence of a VM does not mean that the VM can't optimize to the underlying platform.

#

Like, if you have a silly C/C++ compiler, it won't optimize those things either.

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Wiz, take notes, you could learn some things ;)

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 2:30 PM

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🎣

void void May 23, 2019, 2:30 PM

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haha

austere ivy May 23, 2019, 2:30 PM

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baited oof

#

Okay see you folks later.

void void May 23, 2019, 2:30 PM

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how come wiz has a color and you dont brian

quasi valley May 23, 2019, 2:30 PM

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racist

void void May 23, 2019, 2:30 PM

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doesnt that mean something

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 2:30 PM

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cuz i lost my table (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

void void May 23, 2019, 2:31 PM

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where do you have ur laptop then

#

or pc

quasi valley May 23, 2019, 2:32 PM

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┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

void void May 23, 2019, 2:32 PM

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oh I just saw the right side

#

lolol

#

if I sell my table, can I be on there too?

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if I show my receipt and stuff

gloomy sphinx May 23, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Java is slow because it is powered by printers

pulsar wigeon May 23, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Java is slow because the bean farmers are unionized

ancient bolt May 23, 2019, 2:59 PM

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I sure wish intellij's REST API tool was better

#

has a couple annoying dealbreakers

merry talon May 23, 2019, 2:59 PM

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someone's ought to ionize them then

#

@ancient bolt is it supposed to be like postman?

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or for creating em

gloomy sphinx May 23, 2019, 3:08 PM

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hot chocolate without the sugar is offending

ancient bolt May 23, 2019, 3:21 PM

#

@merry talon like postman

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it's a nice setup that I like quite a lot

#

very intellij-y, all text, with smart highlighting and whatnot

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but when you run a request it creates a runconfig, which like wtf

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also I can't put the window in a toolbar, it's just a normal editor

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so easy to get lost and not organized

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if they fixed those 2 issues it would be great

#

ironically the now deprecated "test RESTful webservice" or "REST Client" tool in intellij is better as it has neither issue

merry talon May 23, 2019, 3:28 PM

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oh

ancient bolt May 23, 2019, 3:28 PM

#

but the new tool is cool as you can build requests using environment variables, and select the environment you wish to run it with when you run it

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e.g. prod vs dev

#

I'm going to see if I can create a plugin that automatically deletes temp run configs after they're created and used once

void void May 23, 2019, 3:41 PM

#

demon

#

what is version #39 about?

golden gust May 23, 2019, 3:42 PM

#

We updated the build number

sour sinew May 23, 2019, 3:46 PM

#

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 3:47 PM

#

changelog #40: Incremented 39 to 40

void void May 23, 2019, 3:48 PM

#

alright

#

ty

upper flicker May 23, 2019, 4:04 PM

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https://help.github.com/en/articles/about-maintainer-security-advisories

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still no private tickets

#

Might be getting there though

ancient bolt May 23, 2019, 4:14 PM

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nice

merry talon May 23, 2019, 4:21 PM

#

so I discovered that my weird issue with videos and gifs pinning my CPU and locking up my PC is specific to chromium

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which is why it happens on discord too

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but only arbitrarily

#

so weird

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oh wow

#

disabling hardware accel fixed it

void void May 23, 2019, 4:33 PM

#

same

#

hardware ace faks things ap

merry talon May 23, 2019, 4:33 PM

#

I wonder if it was just the gpu encoders it didn't like

#

since some twitch streams worked others didn't

#

but I figured twitch would transcode it all to the same thing

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 4:38 PM

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twitch only transcodes bigger ones (you can tell that by whether or not a stream has quality options) otherwise you'll get whatever the streamer outputs

mental badge May 23, 2019, 4:38 PM

#

tardy lynx May 23, 2019, 4:39 PM

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Aqua?

void void May 23, 2019, 4:39 PM

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hardware acceleration breaks youtube too

worn ember May 23, 2019, 4:42 PM

#

what hardware acceleration are we talking about?

#

@upper flicker why do you need private tickets?

tropic flame May 23, 2019, 4:43 PM

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lol I always disable hardware acceleration

upper flicker May 23, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Because I don’t want your grubby hands on all the tickets

merry talon May 23, 2019, 4:45 PM

#

phoenix616: all ones I've tried are partnered

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and have that

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 4:45 PM

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strange

merry talon May 23, 2019, 4:45 PM

#

all youtube videos work fine

#

presumably because they transcode to h264

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 4:45 PM

#

there are video stats in the advanced settings menu, did you look at that yet?

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(youtube also has video stats with that info iirc)

merry talon May 23, 2019, 4:46 PM

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hmm let me see

void void May 23, 2019, 4:46 PM

#

for some reason when i go off the youtube tab for like 5 minutes and come back to it, the video stops playing but the audio works fine

worn ember May 23, 2019, 4:46 PM

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isnt h265 the new one?

merry talon May 23, 2019, 4:46 PM

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no one uses that yet

worn ember May 23, 2019, 4:46 PM

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slow mofo's

void void May 23, 2019, 4:47 PM

#

h265+ is better

golden gust May 23, 2019, 4:47 PM

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it's all catchup

worn ember May 23, 2019, 4:47 PM

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ketchup

serene quail May 23, 2019, 4:48 PM

#

merry talon May 23, 2019, 4:49 PM

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looks like both a non working and working stream are using avc1

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which is h264

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🤷

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which youtube is using as well

hexed mirage May 23, 2019, 4:52 PM

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merry talon May 23, 2019, 4:54 PM

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h265 uses a lot more cpu

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for a non proportionate reduction in file size

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probably not worth it for them

golden gust May 23, 2019, 4:57 PM

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@hexed mirage Please don't PM us, we have an API called parchment for updates these days

worn ember May 23, 2019, 4:59 PM

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rock paper spigot

void void May 23, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Paper, Parchment, Fabric

merry talon May 23, 2019, 5:02 PM

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concrete paper spigot*

serene quail May 23, 2019, 5:03 PM

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youtube is mostly using vp9 and is falling back to h264 when unavayable

merry talon May 23, 2019, 5:03 PM

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guess its unavailable for me then

serene quail May 23, 2019, 5:03 PM

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what specs you have?

merry talon May 23, 2019, 5:03 PM

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shit

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core 2 quad

serene quail May 23, 2019, 5:04 PM

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gpu(if you enabled hardware rendering in browser)

merry talon May 23, 2019, 5:04 PM

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integrated

serene quail May 23, 2019, 5:04 PM

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ooh

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yeah that thing is definetly not supporting

merry talon May 23, 2019, 5:04 PM

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but like

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it should just software decode it then no?

serene quail May 23, 2019, 5:05 PM

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what?

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oh i am dumb read it wrong

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yeah it does most of the time

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even vp9

merry talon May 23, 2019, 5:06 PM

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or maybe it knows avc will be a better experience 🤷

serene quail May 23, 2019, 5:06 PM

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usually vp9 is better software decoded

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like why does it even matter to you?

merry talon May 23, 2019, 5:07 PM

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wut

serene quail May 23, 2019, 5:07 PM

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also youtube stores all the original files

void void May 23, 2019, 5:08 PM

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📎 SPOILER_unknown.png

merry talon May 23, 2019, 5:08 PM

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I dont think they do

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only transcoded versions

serene quail May 23, 2019, 5:08 PM

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for example 4k videos uploaded before its support on youtube were upgraded to 4k

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after it was supported

merry talon May 23, 2019, 5:09 PM

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my video I just downloaded isn't the original

serene quail May 23, 2019, 5:09 PM

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well ofc they dont deliver the original files to users

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they deliver compressed but they still have the original

merry talon May 23, 2019, 5:10 PM

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why wouldn't they

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downloaded through the studio I mean

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my video

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 5:11 PM

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they probably compress them to save storage cost ¯_(ツ)_/¯

serene quail May 23, 2019, 5:11 PM

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lemme try uploading and downloading uncompressed

merry talon May 23, 2019, 5:11 PM

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then that's not the original lol

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 5:11 PM

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I figure they must be keeping the originals

merry talon May 23, 2019, 5:11 PM

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they have the filename of the original

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but I can't download it

limber knotBOT May 23, 2019, 5:12 PM

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probably in some cold storage/backup or something

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Otherwise when they did things like adding VP9 or AV1 support they'd either have to transcode from their transcode or only support it for new uploads

merry talon May 23, 2019, 5:12 PM

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yeah fair point

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you can upload some huge videos though lol

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but then again, they aren't profitable

serene quail May 23, 2019, 5:13 PM

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yeah tried downloading a music video i uploaded at ultrahigh bitrate and it downloaded a more compressed video

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i had to 2 times upload 500 and 800 gb videos to youtube

merry talon May 23, 2019, 5:16 PM

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I wonder how they allocate the transcoding resources

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whether they give more to big channels

worn prairie May 23, 2019, 5:17 PM

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serene quail May 23, 2019, 5:17 PM

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i think its the same for everyone

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maybe depends on size

merry talon May 23, 2019, 5:17 PM

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yeah most likely

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since they have a reputation about not really caring about big channels

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lol

serene quail May 23, 2019, 5:18 PM

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like channel size wise i can only compare between 13 and 15k(i think) and it looked the same

merry talon May 23, 2019, 5:19 PM

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I dont get why there's still no setting to not make the video public until the transcode finishes