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austere ivy
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slams hand on table YOU DON'T GET A LAWYER.

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You're with me now.

void void
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what the fu ck

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excuse me stop talking to my client that way

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crushes @golden gust into easily reassembled pieces and carries him out of the pub in a box

austere ivy
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You're defending a criminal!

golden gust
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;-;

austere ivy
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huh

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that took an unexpected turn

void void
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Don't worry I'll put him back together

austere ivy
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you better, we have an interview to continue.

void void
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no u dont hes absolved of all crime

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takes off to the moon

austere ivy
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👀

void void
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Stupid chick in this video:
Question: "What are the three states of matter?"
Chick: "New York... "

austere ivy
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"new yoak, maahnhattan, and salid"

pulsar wigeon
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while we're making fun of stupid people, can we talk about brian

static badge
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or u

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wiz do u know that ur retarded

pulsar wigeon
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at least i'm not a furry

static badge
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same tbh :>

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breakfast

austere ivy
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yet

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220 downloads.

static badge
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<DiscordBot> <T​ᴇʜ​Bʀ​ɪᴀ​ɴ> Leaf what are you hungry for.

pulsar wigeon
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leaf, did you just say furries are your breakfast?

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🤢

limber knotBOT
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irc never forgets

austere ivy
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Some advanced calculus and my highly skilled deduction leads me to believe that he got 2200$ from that.

static badge
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did I?

austere ivy
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Seems like the way to go.

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Scummy, but..

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

void void
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total dls != total purchases

pulsar wigeon
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for premium plugins it is

austere ivy
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Yeah, it is.

pulsar wigeon
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though it doesn't account for price changes

austere ivy
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It does not however it usually doesn't change often.

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Well,

pulsar wigeon
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depends on the person

tardy lynx
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wow

austere ivy
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He released a new version today at 7:52 AM.

tardy lynx
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I might make a premium plugin then

austere ivy
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And 4 new downloads since then.

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That means that he's gotten 40 dollars since this morning.

pulsar wigeon
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they could have sold 200 copies for a dollar to pump the numbers, then raised it to 10

austere ivy
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Like that's not bad money.

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I should start selling NoBedExplosions 👀

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"Guaranteed to be bug free. Advanced if statements included."

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I have a patr-- cough

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It's okay I'm keeping it free ;D

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I'm so charitable.

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"Guaranteed to be bug free. AI event-checking methods."

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Waaay better, thanks AndGK.

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Whoa, if I would've set the price to 100$, I could've gotten 1000$ since May 12.

void void
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yeh til i decompile it and out you in a giant spigot forum scandal that happens every now and then and is utterly sad and pathetic

austere ivy
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👀

wide chasm
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AI == advanced ifs. It's an acronym, you see

austere ivy
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I see.

golden gust
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Code is code

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experience is experience

void void
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My employer didn't give a single fuck about my GH account beyond checking to see if I had any repositories.

static badge
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I doubt they'd turn ur ass turn for "LOL THIS KID DOES MINECRAFT STUFF"

tardy lynx
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if(String.valueOf(condition).equals("true"))

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Ima just make a basic chat plugin

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and sell it for $5

void void
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do you have enough free plugins already?

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Paper zaebis!!!

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Zaebis?

austere ivy
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Notch: applying for a job (extremely unnecessary since he's a billionaire but whatever)

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Notch: Hey so I seemed to have passed all the intelligence checks, am I good to go?

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Interviewer: IT SEEMS HERE THAT YOU'VE DONE MINECRAFT STUFF

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INTERVIEWEER: THAT'S CRINGY

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interviewer: get outta my face

void void
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God I wish I was Notch. I don't even need a billion bucks. I need like 8K. And then I'm solid lmao.

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fml

austere ivy
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I don't think 8 thousand is enough..

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Rent will hit you hard my man.

void void
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It is for me to get my ass out of debt at the current moment.

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Yes Brian, thank you for the Real Life Lesson.

austere ivy
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Tell you what, do you have a patreon?

void void
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Although, where I'm going, my rent will be around $80-90 US per month.

austere ivy
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I know I've already asked this, but you never know.

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What!?

void void
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Give or take like 25 bucks in either direction.

austere ivy
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Where are you going.

void void
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No where I'm telling you! 🎲

austere ivy
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Where I'm at, it's like 500 a month.

golden gust
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You going back? 😄

void void
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When I get cash, yea

austere ivy
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👀

golden gust
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Hey, maybe you'll get to go see china again

void void
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Fuck China

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Although their smoking rooms are alright

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(And I say that having only seen the airports which suck major balls.)

austere ivy
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electroniccat, when's your patreon coming?

void void
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About employers why not instead of showing like sometimes cringy reviews like code snippets, bug resolutions, and other factors that are more "promising" for enterprises?

golden gust
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I was actually looking at paetron a while back and they wanted stuff like a banner pic and just urgh

austere ivy
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Looking at the reviews of the plugin, it seems that whole thing of "if you pay for something, you're more likely to like it."

void void
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wtf they take 8% of your monthly income on patreon

austere ivy
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kashike recently made a patreon. Wasn't too hard for them.

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It's 5%.

void void
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kay take that bitches, ill make $0 then u get SHIT

golden gust
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They bumped it up recently afaik

austere ivy
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For me since I got founders pricing, but you can still have 5% if you don't have multiple tiers.

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Take a look at this:

void void
austere ivy
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Yeah I get pro for 5% since I made before those changes.

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May 7th were those changes.

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Oh not that patreon.

void void
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irc never forgets

cosmic raft
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would you not

golden gust
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judging

austere ivy
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I'm waiting till I get my nossr monies to throw money at them ;D

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Currently my plan is that 25% of my nossr monies go to nossr again, 25% of it goes to kash, and 50% goes to my new computer fund. 👍

limber knotBOT
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nope

austere ivy
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You can't stop me from throwing money at you >;3

limber knotBOT
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unpublished it

void void
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I guess he can.

austere ivy
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What? D:

golden gust
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lol

austere ivy
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I didn't expect that ,_,

void void
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ok i made a patreon

austere ivy
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russian accent Is simple, you play, or die.

void void
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now it will just sit there

austere ivy
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LET ME THROW MY MONEY AT YOU.

void void
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ok go for it

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im repping paper

golden gust
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Wouldn't even give him my discarded gum

void void
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cat
gum

austere ivy
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Wait, I don't have my nossr monies yet, I have to wait to the start of this month.

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Oh wait I need a credit card.

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Hmm, I've heard good things about Capital One teen cards.

golden gust
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fiiiiiine

austere ivy
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That could work.

void void
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be careful with a credit card for god's sake

golden gust
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The bits of dead mice that got in my teeth

void void
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if you wonder why i need 8K

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yeah

austere ivy
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Debit card.

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Now join >;3

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Calling kashike

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\o/

pulsar wigeon
void void
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am don

austere ivy
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SIMPLE

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AM NOT A SNAKE EXPERT

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D:

void void
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i got shet to do

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wtf ansel elgort sings

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LMAO

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i would never imagine that seeing his face

limber knotBOT
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(kashike) Ansel Elgort - All I Think About Is You (Audio) - length 3m 9s - 108,482 likes, 925 dislikes (99.2%) - 4,629,434 views - AnselElgortVEVO on 2017.06.23

void void
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maybe I just never knew he sang these

stiff yarrow
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I only sub to people with Integrity

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like Brian

void void
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i have integrity

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sort of

pulsar wigeon
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i have great integrity

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nossr just doesn't like how it manifests :^)

austere ivy
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<3

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Well nossr, you’re not too bad yourself :)

void void
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So apparently people can hold the mouse down and unplug it to auto-click?

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Anyone know about this? lol

golden gust
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seems legit

void void
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I don't think there is really a way to stop afk clicking

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(via server)

golden gust
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Probably doesn't care that the device got disconnected, just it knows it didn't get an unclick

tropic flame
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lmao if we still used PS/2 mice that wouldn't be a problem

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disconnected your mouse? too bad, it will only work again after a restart after you plug it back

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I'm sure many people are too lazy for that lol

pulsar wigeon
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yes, because people won't just weigh down their mouse with a heavy object, or resort to a literally one liner in AHK

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just force everyone to use PS/2. effective anticheat there.

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🤦

strange bane
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You can probably detect auto-clicking relatively accurately.

pulsar wigeon
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the fuck are you on about?

strange bane
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On the server side.

pulsar wigeon
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???? how exactly

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what's the difference between someone who has "unplugged their mouse", someone with a weight on it, and someone "legitimately" holding down their mouse button?

strange bane
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Well you'd get slight movements in the head, but either way you can just request activity if they're staring forward and clicking.

tropic flame
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am I the only one that when benchmining doesn't stay like mining for 6 hours on a straight line

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I just turn in different directions to see if I find something different than just stone and its other fourty million variants

rose pier
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"Benchmining"? Is that different from stripmining?

tropic flame
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... nah I just got used to call it benchmining for some reason lol

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but yeah stripmining

rose pier
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I used to stick to one direction until it made sense to stop.

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Maybe I used up a stack of torches.

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Maybe inventory was filling up.

tropic flame
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lmao in 1.9+ I place torches much less frequently

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put torch in left hand, turn on Optifine's dynamic lights

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profit

rose pier
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Yeah, it does seem to be much lighter now.

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Hm, interesting.

strange bane
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Technically cheating, no? 😛

rose pier
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You get mobs all over the place though, I assume.

tropic flame
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cheating would be gammabright lmao

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well yeah, I don't find a problem with it though

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and if anything I actually want the mobs, skeletons for bones and yeah

strange bane
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I do count dynamic lighting and zoom as cheating personally.

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Anyone else getting CPU usage when idle on the multiplayer screen on 1.14?

tropic flame
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meh I don't see any unfair advantage on it tbh

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I could just go on options.txt and set "gamma" to 16

pulsar wigeon
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learn the difference

tropic flame
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yeah I usually don't do those lines every 3 blocks

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probably should though

rose pier
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Why every 3 blocks? That leaves one row of blocks invisible.

pulsar wigeon
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diamonds generally spawn in clusters up to 2x2x2

rose pier
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Makes sense then.

pulsar wigeon
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it's very rare to get diamonds only in the middle without any on either side

tropic flame
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well if there's anything there it should appear in the rows from the extremes

pulsar wigeon
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it's to maximize block discovery : block mined ratio

austere ivy
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I’m using 1.12.2, is it bad if I do the InvehtiryGolder thug?

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GAH TYPING IN ANH ONE IS HARD

pulsar wigeon
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"InvehtiryGolder thug"

rose pier
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Do you go for 2 or 3 blocks tall then?

pulsar wigeon
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i mean, one block tall mining wasn't possible for most of MCs history

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oh wait what

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why 3 lol

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i thought you asked 1 or 2

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cuz that would make sense

tropic flame
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well now you can go for 1.5 blocks tall if you place slabs /s

rose pier
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Lol is 1 block possible now?

pulsar wigeon
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yes

rose pier
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Strange.

pulsar wigeon
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dive/swim mining is a thing

tropic flame
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yeah, 1.13, swimming mechanics

rose pier
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Don't you mine slower then if you're in water?

pulsar wigeon
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idk if it's worth shit but, apparently it's a thing

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i don't think you mine in water

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you just like, start in water, get into 1 block space, then you're in a single block tunnel of air

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not sure exactly tho tbh

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haven't played mc in years 👌

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i think there is/was a trick with elytra too?

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maybe not usable for mining tho

austere ivy
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I'm back.

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InventoryHolder trick.

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Is it a bad idea in 1.12.2?

pulsar wigeon
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what trick

austere ivy
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Or should I not do it because DePrecaTioN

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Implementing InventoryHolder to identify custom GUIs in your plugin.

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Alternative is comparing inventories and storing them in a map.

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Or just checking the name (which is a very bad idea!!!)

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Anyone?

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What happened?

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AYY IT'S GETTING ARCHIVED

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Yeah ever since a bit ago it's turned into an awful place.

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Everyones at /r/minecraft now.

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What a shame, though.

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Yikes though, OptiFine's main hub was...

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uh..

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well..

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hosted on Minecraftforums

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They might have to migrate to PlanetMinecraft..

tropic flame
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wait what?

void void
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Good their staffing is less than competent with service. PlanetMinecraft is probably preparing for extra loads if they are ahead of the cruve.

austere ivy
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PlanetMinecraft is AWFUL.

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Their website is so laggy..

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Their threads are also super.. strange

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I don't know I just wish PlanetMinecraft would act and work a bit modern, a bit faster.

void void
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True they need to have the loads. A good community will only stick around for so long on a potato.

austere ivy
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I've been using /r/minecraft for a couple years now, but nothing compares to Minecraftforum in terms of discussions.

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/r/minecraft is awful for actual discussions or threads about anything. It's reddit, which is a wildly different system than forums.

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Time to profit on this.

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.. never mind.

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the most recent post is 1.12.2

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This is why I don't like PMC:

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***S K I N S ***

tropic flame
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lmao planetmc is full of kids

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has really great resources, like maps and resource packs, but it's also full of kids

austere ivy
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That's not a bad thing.

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We were all kids once.

tropic flame
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yeah but MC Forum was more mature at least from my view

austere ivy
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Eh well, the crowd might migrate.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tropic flame
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I'd go to reddit if I were "the crowd"

austere ivy
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Yeah I dunno.

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You're offending my kind, barty

tropic flame
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lmao migrate to BlackSpigot /s

austere ivy
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angry Brian noises

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Looking at Minecraftforum right now..

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Seems like it's glorified tech support.

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what

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..

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that's across ALL categories

tropic flame
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lmao microsoft indian tech support

austere ivy
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The only active things are tech support

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if you don't sort by new you're a filthy casual

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How do you think the new good things make it's way to the top!?

stiff yarrow
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Brian take my patreon money and buy some manners Kappa

void void
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Does anyone know of a custom killing mobs and possibly even custom blocks plugin to be able to reward upon commands? I know one existed but I don't remember what it was where you could set % and all of that fun stuffs.

austere ivy
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I apologize, barty. :(

tropic flame
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oh hold on

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we completely forgot about Minecraft's official discord lol

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people can just use discord

austere ivy
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Oh huh. Let me join that.

tropic flame
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why not

austere ivy
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I joined :D

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It's insanely active.

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I don't know what I expected from a guild with 30k members.

void void
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30,000 online users is insane after all.

unreal quarry
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Stuff no one on the Bukkit side of things wants you to know about. It's top secret information. Unless you're using vanilla, then you use it a lot already.

stiff yarrow
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NBT is a system for storing data onto various things in Minecraft, things stored can have names and a value, data is persistent

austere ivy
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Nossr.

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How do you store your Patreon monies?

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reformed

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still baiting

austere ivy
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I can't use paypal because I'm not old enough..

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I'm looking into a Capital One teen credit card but I'm not sure, just want to know what others use.

ancient bolt
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I hate when I have a hot pan on the stove

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I'm afraid one of my cats will jump up on it

austere ivy
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Gas, Demon?

ancient bolt
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electric

austere ivy
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Me too. I have zebra finches at home and we let them fly around the house.

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They always fly to us whenever we're around, but it's bad when we're cooking.

stiff yarrow
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@austere ivy Adults have a thing called a bank account

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I got one at 16

austere ivy
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Right, yeah, I need a bank account.

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I was looking around and I was thinking of a Capital One teen account.

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I just want to know what others use.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

stiff yarrow
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did you think for some reason, me, a 30 year old hikkineet living in his moms living room didn't have a bank account or paypal account due to the age restrictions?

austere ivy
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Not teen credit card, teen account.

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Well what'd you use at 16?

stiff yarrow
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a bank account

austere ivy
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yeah.. but like..

stiff yarrow
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I opened one at 16

austere ivy
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What bank?

stiff yarrow
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all the banks are shit

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you just use them until you get credit score and move to a credit union

austere ivy
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There's not a whole lot of bank accounts that allow under 18.

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so I was looking at capital one..

stiff yarrow
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they do, just have your parent go with you and sign

austere ivy
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Oh really? Huh.

stiff yarrow
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well look it up

austere ivy
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Well I'm out of country now >:I

stiff yarrow
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every bank is different

austere ivy
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I think we use/used to use old national mainly but we might've changed.

stiff yarrow
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hes a protip Brian

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all the banks are owned by the same parent company

austere ivy
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Last I heard old national doesn't have teen accounts ¯_(ツ)_/¯

stiff yarrow
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its one giant scamaz

austere ivy
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Nossr can I just put all my patreon monies in your bank account.

stiff yarrow
austere ivy
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Promise to pay me back someday?

stiff yarrow
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you are t rying to put the money I gave you back in my account

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this is next level nigerian prince stuff

austere ivy
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We just need to pay some processing fees.

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I swear you'll get all my patreon monies, just pay me 500$ for the processing fees.

unreal quarry
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It's for his dead aunt, the queen

stiff yarrow
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deal PogU

austere ivy
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epic runs away

stiff yarrow
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Brian you know you could probably just do freelance even at your level, there's basic bitch work out there

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buy yourself a mac book

unreal quarry
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No, a desktop

austere ivy
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Billy, can a desktop fit in a suitcase for planes, trains, and automobiles?

unreal quarry
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Don't listen to nossr. Desktop where it's at ;)

stiff yarrow
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yes?

austere ivy
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I'm not kidding, it needs to fit in a plane, a train, and an automobile.

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In a suitcase.

stiff yarrow
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@unreal quarry I would never recommend for someone to get a mac book

austere ivy
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Actually, plane, bus, and automobile.

stiff yarrow
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Brian just talks non-stop about how he wants one

unreal quarry
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He needs a desktop tho

austere ivy
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I'll get a great desktop once we're out of this traveling business.

stiff yarrow
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@austere ivy here's the thing Brian, you don't take it with you to Colombia

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you leave it at home

unreal quarry
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He just keeps putting excuses in the way

austere ivy
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I need a laptop that isn't corrupting right now. I almost lost all my work.

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Nossr, here's my grand plan:

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I wait later till I'm not going back and forth between continents, and by then, Navi might be out.

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Which means prices drop ;o

stiff yarrow
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Brian you have to earn some money first

austere ivy
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Freelancing you say?

stiff yarrow
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I mean you're in a dev discord

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I can only hope you are a dev

unreal quarry
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My grand plan is to keep pr'ing loads of api missing in spigot until paper becomes the leader and spigot dies.

austere ivy
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I should've charged a 5 dollar commission for that guy who needed the NoBedExplosion thing 😢

stiff yarrow
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gross Brian

unreal quarry
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$5? You're cheap

stiff yarrow
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don't work for pennies

austere ivy
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Just kidding I wouldn't do that.

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500 dollars.

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MINIMUM.

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PER HOUR.

stiff yarrow
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you're making Aikar proud now

stiff yarrow
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I don't know what skill set you have currently Brian, but I'm sure you can find some work that you're capable of, as long as you charge normal prices you can get a macbook eventually

static badge
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macbook LUL

austere ivy
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I just need a beater laptop capable of doing better than this one currently.

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Plus we're not in a great place so there's a 20% chance that each time we're going back and forth it's going to get stolen.

stiff yarrow
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even a beater laptop costs money Brian

austere ivy
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Yeah, so not super duper macbook or anything, just something better than this.

stiff yarrow
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are you going to make your poor mother buy you something you don't even need just because you have a peversion for portable devices

austere ivy
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970 cop is like 320 dollars.

strange bane
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Friend of mine almost bought a macbook several times, saved him each time though

stiff yarrow
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what a great economy you got over there

austere ivy
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10/10

strange bane
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I haven't even heard of COP before.

stiff yarrow
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you could probably live like a king in that country doing freelance here and there

austere ivy
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I'm literally not even joking.

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The economy here is so bad.

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For an entire days work, you get 10 USD.

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30000 pesos, less than 10 USD.

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Like seriously just bring 1000$ here and you can start a new life.

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The red means that it's getting better, right? /s

strange bane
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Wait, but things a lot of COP though right?

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Like, how much is uhm... bread there?

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Sliced bread, in a bag.

austere ivy
strange bane
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Half price!

austere ivy
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Hmm wait..

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I think it depends.

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I'd say 10-15.

strange bane
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It costs 24 COP+ here.

stiff yarrow
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but then I'd have to live in a shithole Brian

unreal quarry
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I think it's time I have a new avatar. Yeah?

stiff yarrow
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I can only vaguely see you in your current avatar aPeepoDetective

strange bane
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From one of the best shows ever.

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unreal quarry
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\o/

strange bane
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I've seen that one before.

unreal quarry
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I legit just took it lol

austere ivy
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Did you just call our country bad!?

strange bane
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Oh, well I've seen a very similar one.

austere ivy
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DID YOU JUST INSULT MY COUNTRY OF ORIGIN!?

strange bane
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I hate origin too.

stiff yarrow
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bald and beautiful

austere ivy
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You are completely correct, all the Venezuelans are migrating here, and crime rates have skyrocketed.

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Crime has always been bad here, though.

stiff yarrow
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sounds borderline racist but can't tell

strange bane
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If there's statistics to back it up, it isn't racist.

viscid cairn
unreal quarry
#

Wat

austere ivy
#

So where do you find these freelance projects?

unreal quarry
#

Stand on the street with a sign

#

Preferably made of cardboard

austere ivy
#

"am doin a lost job pls help"

unreal quarry
#

Makes ppl think you need money more

austere ivy
#

my cardboard sign:

unreal quarry
#

Yes they do

austere ivy
#

"NO WIFE"
"NO JOB"
"NO MONEY"
"WILL WORK, PLEASE HELP"

#

Technically completely true.

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

unreal quarry
#

Im certain you did ;)

austere ivy
#

AndGK give me 1000$ and I will fix it /s

strange bane
#

That was extremely passive aggressive Billy. xD

austere ivy
#

More aggressive.

#

Tipping the scales a tad too much there.

unreal quarry
#

Define passive aggressive, because I was going for captian obvious

austere ivy
#

Deal.

#

Another 500$ on there please, AndGK.

#

Y'know.

#

For processing, shipping, and handling.

stiff yarrow
#

@austere ivy go on spigot forums and slide into peoples dms

strange bane
#

"You're not wrong" is my definition of passive aggressive

stiff yarrow
#

theres even a section for it

austere ivy
#

James, you're not wrong there.

#

That's the plan, barty.

strange bane
#

audibly sighs

austere ivy
#

Offer them freelance services, do all that fun stuff, get your money.

#

Then sue them for a million dollars for child labor.

#

👍

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

limber knotBOT
#

<DiscordBot> <R​ef​or​me​d ​Br​ia​n> No, am illegal immigrant, work permit is the least of my worries.

stiff yarrow
#

Brian as long as you don't undercharge you'll be okay

strange bane
#

Isn't papers motto something, something, something "without the politics"?

austere ivy
#

Thanks, leaf.

#

Always very helpful.

#

For child labor, of course.

unreal quarry
#

Do what my apartment manager did. He got rich by looking for anything he could sue for. He ended up finding a meat store that sold non-kosher meat, but advertised it as kosher. He's not even Jewish, and won.

stiff yarrow
#

Brian dual citizenship is not recognized by Murrica

austere ivy
#

Lol, Billy.

stiff yarrow
#

@unreal quarry peepoGiga

austere ivy
#

Barty says "Lol, Billy." too.

strange bane
#

I've been streaming to YouTube since the 7th of December, I should probably calculate the bandwidth on that

#

Sorry, random, but I just realised. xD

austere ivy
#

Alright, so..

stiff yarrow
#

probably tiny

austere ivy
#

:peepoSweat:

strange bane
#

Huh, well my calculations were obviously very wrong because that number is too small

stiff yarrow
#

I'd say a majority of your competition is probably amateur devs who barely know how to use OO

austere ivy
#

Nossr where's that peepoSweat emoji?

#

I like that emoji a lot.

#

Is a 👍 emoji.

stiff yarrow
#

I don't know what experience level Brian is

austere ivy
#

Very low, nossr.

stiff yarrow
#

you might just be underestimating your capabilities

idle lodge
stiff yarrow
#

barty aren't you Brians age

#

you act like it at least

#

lol I see Ivan working for pennies in that forum

idle lodge
#

Is the current 1.14.1 branch stable enough to run a small survival server on with a pregenerated world, 3-6 plugins and 4-11 players?

#

On a 2GB ram VPS?

stiff yarrow
strange bane
#

4.5 terabytes of data streaming to YouTube.

#

What a waste of bandwidth.

idle lodge
#

That's too bad

austere ivy
#

Looking at forums, seems it'd be easiest to just look around the Hiring place.

#

I know my capabilities best so I won't get myself into something I don't know how to do.

strange bane
#

Actually, Spottedleaf, electroniccat, Aikar, etc. is working more than that and isn't being paid anything

idle lodge
#

How much ram do you think I'll need to have my server run stable on 1.14.1?

strange bane
#

10GB

#

At least 4 if you're on a very strict budget.

void void
#

2GB will WORK but you should get 3 or 4 GBs if you really want to host 10+ players for sure.

strange bane
#

Actually I have a feeling you'll get a OOM exception with 2GBs.

austere ivy
#

He might've changed. People change. So I'm not judging.

#

Who am I to judge, I don't know anything. Just saying might feel bad to be him.

idle lodge
#

I'm running my paper is really stable with 2gb ram on 1.13.2

strange bane
#

Well, it is easy to do without plugins and players.

#

Also, 1.14 is worse than 1.13.2.

idle lodge
#

I do have plugins and players it's a private survival server with about 7 plugins with an average of 4-10 players online

strange bane
#

I would like to see your timings report.

idle lodge
#

My TPS is around an average of ~19.5

void void
#

Umm I tested it with my players and 2GB will at least host a few of us without serious lag. Like 19TPS at worst.

#

Good enough.

#

I don't need a work horse unless people are paying me to host awork horse.

idle lodge
#

I pregenerated my world that resolved almost all the lag

strange bane
#

Thanks to Aikar, TPS is a useless measurement of lag.

idle lodge
#

And I don't really use any ram intensive plugins

limber knotBOT
#

2GB works for at least 20 players depending on what is going on or what plugins you are running

idle lodge
#

Altough I do use the built in anti x-ray

limber knotBOT
#

also depends on how you set the JVM flags as well and GC

idle lodge
#

I followed the optimization guide on the spigot forums

#

That stabilized my TPS

austere ivy
#

James what do you mean?

idle lodge
#

But me and my friends want to start playing the new 1.14 update altough I don't really want to spend more on my server because we don't play on it that often

strange bane
#

We're running 1.14.1 and /tps reports: TPS from last 1m, 5m, 15m: 20.0, 20.0, 20.0. If you ask the players online, they would certainly not agree with those numbers. 😛

#

I don't really understand that TPS stabilisation Aikar added but if you're below 19 it's really bad lag, anything above can vary quite drastically.

austere ivy
#

That's a downside to making things async.

#

Tougher accurately measuring how long things take.

strange bane
#

Chunks aren't async in 1.14.

austere ivy
#

They're not?

strange bane
#

They're not.

austere ivy
#

That's weird, thought Paper added it back.

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

peak dirge
#

For 1.13 yes, but 1.14 is really new.

strange bane
#

Spotted and electronic will get to it eventually, I'm sure.

static badge
#

our api doesn't support getting chunks async currently

austere ivy
#

Looking at Ivan stuff.

#

He's forking and doing Super Advanced Stuff™ like that, what went wrong with that?

void void
#

oh god oh fuck

austere ivy
#

By his commit titles he seems nice.

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

void void
#

wait what

#

yeah seems kinda legit

austere ivy
#

I never really met him though.

void void
#

it was his personality

#

his contribs are impressive tho

austere ivy
#

he does md5 coding

#

👀

#

WHY IS HE DOING MD5 CODING

void void
#

wait md5?

austere ivy
#

That code style.

void void
#

md5 is a hashing algorithm

austere ivy
#

I guess he is forking Bungee so he has to stay within the format they use.

#

md_5

void void
#

oh

austere ivy
#

Spaces between arguments and parenthesis, { on a new like, that kinda thing.

void void
#

yeah it's probably the formatting standards

#

kinda hurts my eyes

#

it's like looking at wurst code

austere ivy
#

He seems like a smart person, what went wrong?

void void
#

his personality

austere ivy
#

Bad enough to get himself banned..?!

#

I mean he even has a cool website.

void void
#

there was a whole day's worth of conversation about ivan

austere ivy
#

I'm into conversation :D

void void
#

idk the exact details lul, but he was saying he was infecting everyone with 'ivange' or something. That was all i saw of the argument

#

oh yeah he was also a complete retard with git

austere ivy
#

Like leafititis?

void void
#

thaaaat was it

austere ivy
#

Poor leaf, turned into a meme against him.

#

.. actually I think he turned himself into a meme..

#

How old is he?

void void
#

no idea

#

guessing young

austere ivy
#

I thought there was something saying he was 16-15.

#

.. he has a pyapal account..

void void
carmine hinge
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) HOUOUIN KYOUMA - length 16s - 815 likes, 20 dislikes (97.6%) - 34,022 views - Tekraider on 2016.10.29

austere ivy
#

That's breaking Paypal's TOS. ..

#

Bad idea, you get banned for life on that kind of stuff.

#

"Your mama's home"

void void
#

bro wtf

#

my brain

fresh ermine
#

Can confirm

austere ivy
#

Wait what.

fresh ermine
#

You get banned for life

void void
fresh ermine
#

I cant use paypal

austere ivy
#

Poor Hex :(

fresh ermine
#

Due to me using it at 15-16

#

And them finding out

austere ivy
#

Yeah they even track you and do the math, and if you ever did use it when you were younger.

#

Pretty bad.

#

Whatever, a lot of people are turning away from Paypal for this kinda stuff..

void void
#

Litecoin 💪

#

/s

fresh ermine
#

So yeah I can’t use paypal at all

idle lodge
#

How can you see the ram usage per plugin?

void void
#

use GUSD

#

gemini dollars are the stablest

austere ivy
#

Yeah what on earth Mono why is it making an event adn firing it to get something.

void void
#

that's wurst code for u lul

#

the argument styling

#

consider it top tier obfuscation

austere ivy
#

lol

#

I feel a tad bit sick, I'll be right back.

void void
#

ah that sucks

elfin vault
#

😐

limber knotBOT
#

an odd thing to not support o.O

golden gust
#

That commit restores it

elfin vault
#

Oh

#

It does? 🤔

golden gust
#

It was broken earlier as he piped the world name as the dimension name, which is a namespaced key

elfin vault
#

I don't understand coding so I didn't know xD

#

So wait, does Paper have this in it?

golden gust
#

(Hence, why uppercase names would blow up) Now it's fixed, just the dimension ID ain't going to match the real world name

#

Not yet I don't think

#

I was going to merge before and idek what happened

elfin vault
#

Ah, alright

#

I guess I kinda thought the opposite because of md_5's first comment on this issue made about this

tropic flame
#

Random reminder that the French language sucks

wide hazel
#

"toLower()" - fixed

#

😛

#

what's a Unix standard?

stiff yarrow
#

@wide hazel are worlds case sensitive?

wide hazel
#

iunno, I just figured a single toLower behind the directory scan would work, but also break something something Unix

tropic flame
wide hazel
#

needs more jpeg

#

I'm too old for this terminology

tropic flame
#

If there are newtons, can there be oldtons?

wide hazel
tropic flame
wide hazel
tropic flame
#

Ido what you're talking about

#

*idk

#

Beautiful

#

I actually gotta go to sleep rn sorry

#

Cya

austere ivy
#

It’s just the same as the other half and half a leg 🦵 it looks good for the night I don’t really like to go back into it and get to the top and bottom part now I’m just trying haha 😂

#

Thanks to my phones auto suggest for that lovely paragraph.

#

Lol okay so I’m currently in Colombia. I’m getting ads on YouTube about a software engineer who is Colombian and then moved to Canada. The ad is for moving to Canada, lol.

#

And also software engineer. It knows to much 👀

#

It won’t give me more ads :(

limber knotBOT
#

You suck, Brian.

austere ivy
#

:(

limber knotBOT
#

Sorry Brian

austere ivy
#

It's okay, I till love you <3

#

still*

austere ivy
#

If you mark a variable as final, is it slower to access?

limber knotBOT
#

wat

austere ivy
#

Compiler does away with final IIRC, since final is just a compile-time check..

#

But someone was saying final on classes can be optimized at runtime because they can't be subclassed/extended.

upper flicker
#

The compiler doesn’t really do away with it in all cases

#

The JVM does ignore it in pretty much all of them though

#

It determines what is and isn’t able to be handled as ‘final’ at runtime without the keyword

#

And can optimize based on that

austere ivy
#

Ah, okay.

#

Sorry I'm just reading back at Ivan's old messages because we were talking about him earlier.

#

Someone mentioned that so I got curious.

ornate spindle
#

@graceful wyvern tf was happening to your bot?

austere ivy
#

City was saying that everything should be final unless meant to be mutable.

#

Prevents messing things up, but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

graceful wyvern
#

Mojang has been...doing things

upper flicker
#

That’s for you

#

Not for java

austere ivy
#

Ah, okay.

ornate spindle
#

ooh you just started to get that problem where the cache starts to fuck with it?

austere ivy
#

So final is kinda like a "don't mess this up" kind of deal?

#

More of a, make sure you're not doing anything you're not supposed to?

upper flicker
#

There are API implications with how you design public classes

graceful wyvern
#

that might be it, I do think they ended up blocking more last night

austere ivy
#

Oh, yeah that makes sense.

upper flicker
#

But yes it’s more for that then for telling the jvm how to deal with it

fallen oracle
#

What kind of bot you got

austere ivy
#

And then someone said making something final made it slower

ornate spindle
#

yeah they probably started to block some & then the cache started to change. I got around it by waiting longer to actually check if any server was blacklisted

upper flicker
#

There’s probably one specific case inside of five nested classes within a static init block while using some specific case

ornate spindle
upper flicker
#

As a general thing though that’s idiotic

limber knotBOT
#

u know what else is idiotic

#

u

austere ivy
#

Yikes, Ivan seems to be pretty mean sometimes. Like, to Aikar.

#

Some people said I was like Ivan and in some ways I see that, I was really immature and bait-y sometimes and I'm trying to fix that, but I hope I was never like .. that

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

void void
#

Reformed

austere ivy
#

I have ascended ^-^

#

Am now floating in the sky, maybe riding a cloud or something.

void void
#

a cloud you say

austere ivy
#

Yeah. I'm on Discord right now, using cloud based computing.

#

ba dum tss

void void
#

well duh computers are better when they're in the sky

#

(actual quote from someone in my previous employment)

#

(they were serious)

austere ivy
#

No, really?

#

Goodness lol.

#

Not to sidetrack completely but just wanted to say, looking at Ivan's old messages, seems he was 13.

#

Which is definitely too young to be having a paypal account, he's gonna get banned.

#

And that's gonna be bad.

#

Even if he doesn't get caught when he's below 18, they do the maths and ban you.

limber knotBOT
gritty bolt
austere ivy
#

Welcome \o/

void void
#

Now go away

austere ivy
#

Don't listen to him :(

acoustic basin
#

go away

#

^

void void
#

sometimes

rocky drum
austere ivy
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) How Long Is A Nanosecond? - length 1m 56s - 77 likes, 8 dislikes (90.6%) - 6,322 views - Loophole on 2018.04.28

austere ivy
#

Interesting.

#

A nanosecond is how long light takes to travel one foot.

#

And in that time, 33,860,000 calculations are done on the world's fastest computer.

#

Computers > Light

limber knotBOT
#

And a second is the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium-133 atom

#

so

#

?shrug

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

(i wish i was kidding)

austere ivy
#

You okay there, simple?

limber knotBOT
#

no

austere ivy
#

Gotcha.

limber knotBOT
#

that's the actual definition

austere ivy
#

That's THE DEFINITION FOR A SECOND!?

limber knotBOT
#

yes

austere ivy
#

Why 9,192,631,770 periods!?

limber knotBOT
#

I dunno

austere ivy
#

???? WHERE are they picking these numbers from!??

#

Mine as well have no definition!!!

limber knotBOT
#

Ask the SI

austere ivy
#

Pfft.

#

Our brains can only send 1.43 electrical signals per nanosecond.

#

Meanwhile, 33,860,000 calculations are done on the world's fastest computer.

limber knotBOT
#

I prefer Planck time.

austere ivy
#

Computers > Brains

#

How do I upgrade my brain to a computer 👀

void void
#

Pretty sure my brain can store more useless information.

limber knotBOT
#

Easy, just die first.

austere ivy
#

Nice.

void void
#

It can also randomly select songs at will, and play them over and over and over again.

austere ivy
#

Nice.

merry talon
#

second came first

#

they defined it after

limber knotBOT
#

Yes it was originally defined in a different way

acoustic basin
#

paper>spigot no challange

clear portal
#

If I were running a small server for <10 people in survival, would it be better to use Paper or just the default server jar for performance?

limber knotBOT
#

paper

clear portal
#

Aight

limber knotBOT
#

careful with 1.14 tho

#

still v new

#

still issues

clear portal
#

Using 1.13.2

limber knotBOT
#

ur good then

clear portal
#

Aight.

austere ivy
#

What on earth is this:

#

#

That's not three dots, that's one character.

clear portal
#

ok and

#

have you seen unicode? there's MUCH weirder characters than that.

void void
#

Honestly after 1.12.2 your gotta need quite bit of RAM. Gone are the days of half GB doing it or even an entire GB.

clear portal
#

So would 1.12.2 be better? I'm running of an AWS instance with 4 gigs.

void void
#

For performance wise yes.

clear portal
#

Aight.

void void
#

If your able to fine tune get it optimized and such you may rarely hit 512MB or more with a couple of players on. I averaged like 368MB in those days.

#

(in game of course not actual usages from the OS since I was renting a Minecraft server)

#

@austere ivy its called an ellipsis

#

An ellipsis (plural ellipses; from the Ancient Greek: ἔλλειψις, élleipsis, 'omission' or 'falling short') is a series of dots (typically three, such as "…") that usually indicates an intentional omission of a word, sentence, or whole section from a text without al...

#

Don't use it where you use three dots. It's not three dots.

#

(It is, but it's not.)

austere ivy
#

#

I'm pretty sure it is…

#

#

You joking?…

void void
#

But it's not used in the same way three dots are used, grammar-wise.

austere ivy
#

Not sure…

#

Just kidding, but how are three dots used, grammar wise?

#

Ah, gotcha, it's an omission.

void void
#

yes

austere ivy
#

He … her!

void void
#

More like when quoting text for an essay and you don't want the whole quote for example, maybe just the start and end

austere ivy
#

I do not … Minecraft!

#

Ah, okay.

void void
#

You put an ellipsis then finish the quote

austere ivy
#

"… is the reason I did it. That is the reason I killed them."

void void
#

Kek

austere ivy
#

Woa tension.

merry talon
#

ͬͦͬ ͤͬͦ ͬͦͬ

#

#

and my personal favorite

#

ฏ๎๎๎

austere ivy
#

¡

cosmic raft
#

holy

upper flicker
#

yeah that seems weird

#

they said it was a financial issue

#

seems odd after all these years but who knows

native thunder
#

They're owned by curse though right?

#

How are there financial issues lol

upper flicker
#

idk maybe curse is hurting and cutting them?

#

I didnt think it was

#

why would they cut mcf before that

merry talon
#

woah

#

yeah there's gotta be some other reason

limber knotBOT
#

woah what

merry talon
#

woah what kash posted

limber knotBOT
#

yea i saw

merry talon
#

right when the game is picking up steam again

#

I only ever used those forums for finding small whitelisted servers

#

but they were good for that

upper flicker
#

I remember using them for mods and texture packs

#

its been a long time though

merry talon
#

yeah a lot of big mods were posted there primarily too

limber knotBOT
#

well, wtf

merry talon
#

people are saying reddit

#

reddit sucks as forums

limber knotBOT
#

wtf curse is owned by wikia

#

k

pulsar wigeon
#

it's fandom :^)

merry talon
#

its the other way around isnt it

pulsar wigeon
#

wiki (now fandom) owns curse media

merry talon
#

oh

pulsar wigeon
#

twitch owns curse game stuff tho

#

launcher, curseforge (including dbo)

cosmic raft
#

fuck fandom/wikia

merry talon
#

and amazon owns twitch

#

yeah wikia is garbage

pulsar wigeon
#

yea

limber knotBOT
#

^

#

lawl

cosmic raft
#

fandom/wikia is hot garbage

pulsar wigeon
#

🔥 🚮

limber knotBOT
#

we've got some big players out here, fucking shit up now

merry talon
#

the runescape wiki recently switched away from it

limber knotBOT
#

gone are the good days

merry talon
#

and it's so much better now

cosmic raft
#

yup

pulsar wigeon
#

hey guys i got md to add something useful to spigot :^)

cosmic raft
#

We are the official RuneScape encyclopaedia, written and maintained by the players. Since our start in 2005, we've become the largest and most comprehensive reference for the game, with 45,589 articles and counting.

We are the official Old School RuneScape encyclopaedia, written and maintained by the players. Since our start on 14 February 2013, we've been the go-to destination for all things Old School.

merry talon
#

:P

limber knotBOT
#

#paper-dev

grim idol
cosmic raft
#

;D

void void
#

😭

merry talon
#

nice what extension is that

cosmic raft
merry talon
#

ah

void void
#

btw @merry talon Why is there two wikis ?

merry talon
#

I prefer userscripts over extensions

void void
#

I don't understand

merry talon
#

to avoid all the extra nonsense

#

@void void there are 2 versions of the game

void void
#

no

#

Imean

#

the wikia

#

and the new wiki

merry talon
#

because wikia sucked

#

so they moved

void void
#

the team moved ?

merry talon
#

the people who ran the wikis yes

cosmic raft
#

because fandom/wikia is hot garbage

#

littered with ads everywhere

#

forced additions to pages, etc

merry talon
#

yeah

void void
#

oh ok

#

I find the new RS wiki much better anyway

cosmic raft
#

and sadly gamepedia was sold to fandom/wikia, which means even more wiki's are going to become hot garbage soon

#

including the minecraft wiki

merry talon
#

oh no

void void
#

rip

cosmic raft
#

yuuuup

void void
#

whens minecraft.wiki

cosmic raft
#

and the best part is

#

you can't link to your new wiki from your fandom/wikia wiki, against terms or something

merry talon
#

lmao

#

yeah they're just trying to out-SEO the old one

cosmic raft
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yup

void void
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why don't they erase all the content ? Oh I'm sure they're not allowed bacause of terms shit

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that says the content is theirs

peak dirge
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@cosmic raft Word. I remember migrating wikis away from Wikia back in the terrible days of late 2010.

void void
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Just buy minecraft.wiki, only 2600 dollars

cosmic raft
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it was at least better before the "fandom" name change

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now it's worse

merry talon
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jagex was supporting the runescape wiki migration

cosmic raft
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yup

merry talon
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they probably paid for that domain

cosmic raft
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/wiki command in-game now

merry talon
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mojang should do the same

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oh nice

void void
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2600 usd is not a lot for mojang I'm sure

cosmic raft
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Jagex owns the domains, WeirdGloop operates the wiki's

merry talon
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that's a good name

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RuneScape Wiki

Weird gloop is an unknown substance contained in a bucket, created as the result of not following the process for creating magic glue properly during The Eyes of Glouphrie. It is created by using rune or pure essence on an anvil to create rune shards, grinding the shards to c...

void void
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the new RS wiki is just awesome

cosmic raft
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RuneScape Wiki

Hey everyone. Today is an important day - we finally have the chance to leave Wikia. It's been a long time coming, and we’ve talked about it for almost a decade, but this time is different - we have the full support of Jagex, both financially and institutionally.
This is a ...

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is a larger explanation

merry talon
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ugh I hate how much discord shrinks images

cosmic raft
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;D

austere ivy
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Duude.

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This sounds so cool.

cosmic raft
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?

austere ivy
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Turn your laptop microphone and put that through heavy reverb with 2.5-5 second delay, set high cut to 0.5khz, and then 100% wet 0% dry.

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And then just tap around your keys and around the microphone.

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And if you need sudden pops or booms just move your finger around the microphone.

cosmic raft
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you're speaking gibberish

austere ivy
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Sounds super cool and eerie.

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;I

cosmic raft
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also

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@merry talon >not dark mode

merry talon
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oh their dark mode isn't too bad

austere ivy
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Someone should totally buy minecraft.wiki

merry talon
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usually I hate them because they're too dark

austere ivy
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That's a super cool domain

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Have it lead to a scam site lol

cosmic raft
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..

austere ivy
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Microsoft will pay you.

void void
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ban ban ban

austere ivy
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I'm kidding I'm kidding bad ideas.

upper flicker
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clicks linked hastebin log on issue

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gets empty hastebin page

static badge
upper flicker
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can we just ban hastebin from the internet or something

static badge
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make a bot that dumps it elsewhere kappa

void void
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minecraft.ninja

austere ivy
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People are really into taking minecraft.

void void
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register minecraft.ninja

austere ivy
void void
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no

austere ivy
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What.. on earth is that.

merry talon
austere ivy
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"ERROR" lol

void void
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uh actually

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both suck