It's not major enough and players have already built a lot in 1.14.
#general
strange bane
limber knotBOT
loosing all entities is not major? uh, okay then...
strange bane
It's not all, it's a few.
limber knotBOT
well I guess it doesn't really matter on a test server ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
strange bane
I guess I could just do item frames and villagers for now, they're the most difficult to put back and I think ItemStack#serialize will help a lot with them.
hot gorge
Willing to bet Wiz lives in the Midwest due to the copious use of "retarded" as an insult.
strange bane
Searching "from: wizjany#3127 retard" -> 103 results
hot gorge
Yeah, I'm not surprised
Or is young
I think the twitch kiddos throw around middle school insults still lol
half nebula
ticks-per: hopper-transfer: 24 hopper-check: 24 hopper-amount: 3
Is this used with Paper now and push?
quasi valley
it's not like they teased it a few (or 1-2, whatever) weeks ago already ๐
limber knotBOT
@SโmaโllโSaโnsโSeโriโf iirc push based hoppers don't work/don't work right, I would suggest disabling them
also I suggest using a hopper amount that is a multiple of 2, otherwise you will break vanilla mechanics
golden gust
push based was removed, the patch was broken in odd ways and just ๐
pulsar wigeon
willing to bet sonorous is new around here
void void
.rekt
limber knotBOT
โ Pokemon: Fire Rekt
ancient bolt
oneplus 7 pro ordered
should be here around wednesday next week
Hope it's worth it lmao
half nebula
@phoenix616 whats a good breakdown in there then that's more optimized over the default 8,1,1 but works with vanilla mechanics?
ancient bolt
I also used my .edu email address for a student discount heh
limber knotBOT
I use hopper-transfer: 32, amount: 4 (as that should be the same avarage amount as vanilla)
and check one as that doesn't do anything on paper anyways iirc
btw. your 24:3 seems to be based on the same concept of keeping the avarage close to vanilla
but a full stack isn't dividable by 3 so you'll be less efficient there
half nebula
thanks
hot gorge
@pulsar wigeon I am new. Don't see what that has to do with my observational skills. Lol
sharp tusk
native thunder
Share your experience with the pro demon
How do you feel about the pop up camera?
Thinking about upgrading from my one plus 5
half nebula
"skip-entity-ticking-in-chunks-scheduled-for-unload: true" what's the plus and minus to this on a multi world server?
trying to find docs on this and it's hard to find
limber knotBOT
it's often easiest to just read the notes on the patch introducing it as docs might not be updated for newer additions
native thunder
That's basically why I'm not really a fan of it
Looks like it can break pretty easily
The fact that it will close automatically if you drop it is cool
night coral
limber knotBOT
certbot ftw
needs a bit more setup if you want wildcard certs though xD
That's the whole point of their certs only lasting for 90 days, so you'll be encouraged to automate renewal
limber knotBOT
You can automate wildcard cert renewal too, if your DNS provider has an API and certbot has a plugin to support it
carmine hinge
there isnt even a blockplaceevent apparently ?????
can't place droppers either
what in the world is going on
night coral
@-@
slim nymph
@rare palmanth im currently struggling with that myself ._. had to manually renew domains for now
my dns setup is making it a PITA
I run my own local bind9 I maintain DNS as, but then replicate that DNS to a vendor for regional replication. my SOA's point to that vendor, but I of course need to point CB to my master. I think thats causing problems. it says something about cant find base domain
limber knotBOT
I use acme-dns for that and forward the auth subdomain to my server
or well, not forward more like have my server as the nameserver of that subdomain
because you have it in a server section, it needs to be in a location
worn ember
๐ค
slim nymph
you don't want that $1
strange bane
Are you restarting nginx?
I'm pretty sure that would work but I'll test it on my server.
You can if you import it.
include glob_path;
woven otter
nossr
woven otter
we need your pepes
strange bane
I don't think relative paths work @meager perch.
void void
someone help?
void void
could it be?
strange bane
Did it say the word "Done"?
void void
where
strange bane
In the console.
strange bane
What did you put @meager perch?
strange bane
I meant that as placeholder, for a glob path.
strange bane
What's the error?
void void
it changes
i switched now to 1.14 spigot
and it works
should i put again paper 1.14.1 and try?
strange bane
So you're going from 1.14 Spigot to 1.14.1 Paper and connecting through Minecraft 1.14.1 without a proxy such as Waterfall/BungeeCord?
void void
Minecraft 1.14.1 without a proxy such as Waterfall/BungeeCord?
idk what does this mean
i am connecting like everyone connects
strange bane
I feel like you're trolling me @meager perch. xD
Ignore glob_path, replace glob_path with a path to a file.
void void
what should i do if i change from spigot to paper?
what does Minecraft 1.14.1 without a proxy such as Waterfall/BungeeCord? mean
strange bane
Nothing, it's a drag and drop replacement.
strange bane
I know you said the errors change, but what is one of them?
strange bane
Example usage of include:
server {
include /home/user/nginx-server*.conf
}
Would include:
/home/user/nginx-server-errors.conf
/home/user/nginx-server-fallback.conf
As examples.
void void
should i put the error code
from console
or when it disconects me
@meager perch what are you trying to do
strange bane
Both, if they're large use https://hastebin.com
void void
why separate? is it a separate domain / subdomain?
Is it failing to start atm?
i will send you dm
Can you send me your full nginx config
oh ok
limber knotBOT
what was it?
coarse urchin
Mfw
hot gorge
@void void use #paper-help
void void
Happy Birthday Minecraft 
hot gorge
Alt mainly for camera stuff?
hot gorge
Lolol
limber knotBOT
@void void java edition is only 25% off iirc
hot gorge
It's normally $30
coarse urchin
38% off
limber knotBOT
bought it for 5โฌ the first time xD
then two for 10 and one for 15 iirc
testing and usernames
also used to play on my server for a while under an unknown name ;D
void void
um
wtf is matrix anticheat
i can't tell if gud or not, but it keeps kicking this person for fastbreak incorrectly lawl
limber knotBOT
people should just use NCP and configure it properly...
limber knotBOT
that depends on the config
strange bane
...or NCP should come with a better config.
limber knotBOT
well the default config has some very high values to not kick players that just lag etc.
strange bane
Oh, it hasn't been updated in a long time. Is someone else maintaining it?
limber knotBOT
I use this one: https://github.com/CaptainObvious0/NoCheatPlus
that reminds me, I should update my fork to the latest changes xD
strange bane
I'll probably buy Spartan.
limber knotBOT
is that one of those plugins that doesn't have any configuration? xD
void void
strange bane
It's supposedly the best option right now.
limber knotBOT
more like the best advertised one xD
still shadow
limber knotBOT
I mean you don't really need big changes in plugins on a normal minecraft version update (that isn't 1.13)
unborn laurel
limber knotBOT
iirc that was also one of those resources that tried to lock more stuff behind additional payments, I would assume that that isn't the case anymore ๐ค
yeah to what? xD
strange bane
I like how in his ToS he put "7. You are not permitted to abuse or crash the minecraft test-server."
I would of assumed that is the point of the test server.
Also, you're not in agreement with anything for joining the server.
limber knotBOT
uh, that's a legal question that depends on the jurisdiction of the server and the user
but yeah, I suggest reading the reviews before you buy anyhting, especially the bad ones to see if they have any substance to them
strange bane
I would like to make an open source really good anticheat but they're a lot of work.
limber knotBOT
just help with NCP
strange bane
Also, being open source exposes it to workarounds.
limber knotBOT
there are no workarounds if you have proper detections ;)
there's only a limited amount of stuff that you can fake to the server...
strange bane
Which isn't easy.
limber knotBOT
well NCP is going that route instead of hiding your detections like all the proprietary plugins
strange bane
The only way to have true detection would be having a virtual player copying all of the player's actions to see if they're feasible.
Not the only way sorry, but one of the best methods.
limber knotBOT
which get worked around instantly as soon as someone gets their hand one hte code (so they have to fall back to properly blocking everything anyways)
that's what NCP basically does
checks if actions would be feasible
strange bane
NCP fails to properly counter in lag I think.
limber knotBOT
well ideally lag doesn't exist xD
but yeah, that's one of the major issues which should be looked into imo
also NCP is fine if you don't have a PVP server tbh
enough to block people who try to fly/waterwalk/fastplace
because stuff like auto hit/auras don't really do much in PVE/creative xD
strange bane
Also, NCP isn't the lightest of plugins.
limber knotBOT
never really noticed anything in that regard but haven't had tons of players for a couple of years now (and minecraft ran better a couple of years ago when my server had up to 100 at the same time xD)
strange bane
Which server would that be?
limber knotBOT
a german one xD Minebench
void void
native osprey
strange bane
phoenix616, it's so German.
limber knotBOT
ofc
strange bane
There's a bit of English, but it's very German.
1/10 too German for a German server.
limber knotBOT
lol
strange bane
You're one of the last IRC survivors you know.
limber knotBOT
huggles his IRC client
If it wasn't such a PITA to bridge everything to IRC, I proobably would
limber knotBOT
Discord is currently consuming ~720mb of my precious ram
I also find that the color of the font is just stupid to read on the dark font, and the light theme just rip my eyes
void void
strange bane
At least those are reasonable reasons.
wide hazel
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) A Redditor is making a Documentary about TB - My Name is TotalBiscuit... : pcgaming - 222 comments, 3,125 points - Logiman43, 7h ago
wide hazel
:(
strange bane
The UI is so nice on Discord.
I didn't really know anything about TB until he died.
It's essentially another Chrome.
pulsar wigeon
it's inverse moore's law
the better computers get hardware-wise, the sloppier programmers are when writing code due to perceived unlimited resources
wide hazel
hot gorge
720mb is not a lot these days?
pulsar wigeon
that's the kind of attitude that leads to shit software development
"computers have plenty of ram, let's write shitty code"
copper spindle
strange bane
They're on IRC.
normal echo
The easiest way to explain it is to say, IRC is to Discord to what the Nokia brick is to the iPhone
runs
rare palm
Why did thay make no sense
quasi valley
it just explained the basic rules of the universe
normal echo
Basically IRC is a simplified chat
rare palm
Can it be used by anyone?
normal echo
Yes and you host it yourself instead of Discord/Skype etc
hot gorge
Would you like me to do an Ask Jeeves search for the basics of IRC for you? Lol
strange bane
.g irc
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.rescue.org/ -- International Rescue Committee (IRC): "The International Rescue Committee (IRC) responds to the world's worst humanitarian crises and helps people to survive and rebuild their lives. Find..."
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat -- Internet Relay Chat - Wikipedia: "Internet Relay Chat (IRC) is an application layer protocol that facilitates communication in the form of text. The chat process works on a..."
(DiscordBot) James Cameron's last Avatar meeting - length 4m 35s - 10,855 likes, 35 dislikes (99.7%) - 82,825 views - Gus Johnson on 2019.05.17
odd rock
limber knotBOT
@woven otter [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
unreal quarry
@normal echo ^
normal echo
ahaha
pulsar wigeon
confluence
that's the real joke here
normal echo
Confluence goes yum yum ram
ruby breach
strange bane
Make one. ๐
coarse urchin
hahah nice https://artuto.s-ul.eu/Ruj3JNZ1
limber knotBOT
Seem to be getting a lot of rubber banding and other issues with 1.14.1. Is this just me?
limber knotBOT
Should the server be spitting out things like "at net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.IAsyncTaskHandler.executeTask(IAsyncTaskHandler.java:127) ~[patched_1.14.1.jar:git-Paper-26]"
pulsar wigeon
[16:37:54] [Server thread/ERROR]: Exception loading structure piece with id minecraft:nvi
java.util.ConcurrentModificationException: null
at java.util.HashMap.computeIfAbsent(HashMap.java:1134) ~[?:?]
``` this is vanilla issue rightmy Minecraft::entityActivationCheckcount(68) total(16.43% 6.101s, 143.55% of tick) is quite heavy in paper #26 1.14.1 anyone has similar experience?
does it mean too many entitiies for activation range to process?
MiniDigger
olive garden
@worn ember is a hater
worn ember
pfft
cedar spade
paperspigot
limber knotBOT
@cedar spade [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
elder mauve
elder mauve
Hi, how i can prove my friend that Paper is better (especially performance) than Spigot?
limber knotBOT
@elder mauve [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
heavy rapids
aaand it crashed again
limber knotBOT
@meager perch [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
cosmic raft
@pulsar wigeon full stacktrace?
pulsar wigeon
gone now ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
cosmic raft
RIP
pulsar wigeon
i just had heard of z talking about something like that
it happened on server startup
just restarted and it went away
so it sounds like whatever Z has been talking about
cosmic raft
so open an old log? :P
pulsar wigeon
rare palm
hello from the other side
i must've called a thousand times
to tell you
that im sorry
But when I call you never
Seem to be home
cosmic raft
Twitter
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) @erspamer_matt (Matt Erspamer): cast Kristen Stewart as Catwoman you cowards https://t.co/UlZoiiHuaG (20 hours and 43 minutes ago)
woven otter
unreal quarry
@spare venture i'm not waiting anymore. gave up. just got a game-64-oc from ovh instead.
cosmic raft
oooh
oak vortex
gloomy sphinx
chunk loading is at least working on 1.14.2 pre-2 but it loads so weirdly
so random
if you look in an ocean it looks like it loads the top block of the chunk then after it does that it loads the bottom of the ocean
vestal jasper
There's a plugin that "fixes" the book exploit by disabling books / writing of books
That feels like a terrible way to handle the situation
queen rapids
anyone remember that one stats website that showed how many servers were running paper and spigot
unreal quarry
bstats?
void void
Is that a bug ?
unreal quarry
if you didnt get the latest dev build then its going to keep going and going
mikeprimm fixed that like a day ago
golden gust
Do you have a link for that? Been building locally and had to rm the forge stuff because I have no will to figure that out
unreal quarry
this is a good ticket with lots of info about the 1.14 update. mike talks about many bugs in his way from spigot and how he's working around them. https://github.com/webbukkit/dynmap/issues/2469
void void
I use the very latest dev build
๐ค
but I think it's really still generating
I can see new tiles appearing on the map
rip
rancid urchin
oh wow
unreal quarry
you got an older build then
void void
no no no
unreal quarry
i just downloaded it last night and its fine
void void
I really have the latest 3.0.0 build
finite wave
Give me 900$ and iโll fix ur problems
void void
lol
unreal quarry
side note: latest isnt a version :S
void void
The most recent build from the build server vs my jar have the same sig
rancid urchin
any good plugins for a vanilla server?
unreal quarry
i'm not sure which timezine this is in, but this is the exact one i downloaded last night https://i.imgur.com/GMEA0Sz.png
unreal quarry
then idk. i did a full render and it finished rather quickly because its a brand new world
rancid urchin
any good plugins for a vanilla server?
void void
Mine is not "brand new" but not generated a lot, the flat render was fast tho
warped sphinx
unreal quarry
the bug was that no render would ever finish. it just kept generating new chunks outward
unreal quarry
well, yeah. seeing that its not just endlessly generating chunks where the black is ๐
void void
wow okay then
unreal quarry
1.14 chunk bug still plagues us all
void void
oh
unreal quarry
this is me logging in with 32 view distance and just standing there for a few hours. it never generated all the chunks
unreal quarry
i dont pregen my worlds
void void
yeah me too
btw do you know how exactly mob towers spawn mechanic works ?
I made one by following a youtube video but it seems to not spawn the mobs
๐ค
Maybe I'm just a very bad minecraft player
unreal quarry
mobs need a player to spawn near
unreal quarry
theres a "sweet spot" 24-32 blocks from a player where they spawn and stay spawed
any closer, nothing spawns. any farther, they randomly despawn
unreal quarry
its a spherical radius
unreal quarry
might be too far
void void
๐ค
unreal quarry
void void
funny thing is there's only 32 entities at night looking at my F3 menu
oh
I'm at 31m from spawning platform, still nothing
๐ค
can it be related to the fact I'm near spawn ?
unreal quarry
do 24
you want to be as close as possible so you are giving as much surface area of your platform the ability to spawn mobs that actually move
void void
I don't need them to move
unreal quarry
if they dont move, they wont fall down the hole and they'll just eventually despawn
void void
it's a dispenser tower
every X time water make them fall
using dispensers
I'm at 24, still nothing ๐ญ
limber knotBOT
Ooh facebook just charged me for my Oculus Quest
strange bane
Did he fix the mass generation in 1.14?
Right now in the 1.14 builds, or at least last time I checked it doesn't stop generating.
It doesn't know which chunks have already been generated and which haven't, so it just generates infinitely.
If it was a Paper only plugin that could be easily fixed.
World#isChunkGenerated
You can disable updates, yes.
void void
I'm getting sad because of that mob tower not working lmao
strange bane
You've been trying for a long time Jordan.
strange bane
NMS I assume?
void void
yeah I'm trying so hard
rancid urchin
any good plugins for a vanilla server?
rancid urchin
im not
strange bane
By definition, vanilla has no plugins.
rancid urchin
im wondering if there are any plugins that would be good for a vanilla server, its running spigot but i want to keep it as vanilla as possible, are there any good plugins like dynmap and stuff
strange bane
First of all, instead of running Spigot you should run Paper.
rancid urchin
well, i dont want any perms
i want it to stay no ops just mc
i want utility plugins like dynmap or something.
strange bane
It's not much of an option to not have permission plugins.
unreal quarry
just install what you want
theres no right or wrong answers there
its highly personal opinion
rancid urchin
like
unreal quarry
i'm vanilla, too. but all my mobs are ridable ๐
void void
but be careful, one of these plugins have a herobrine prank
rancid urchin
dynmap just small things, nothing big. So like no commands
unreal quarry
everyones definition of vanilla is different
rancid urchin
by vanilla i mean no commands
void void
I still don't know which plugin has the herobrine prank from last night
rancid urchin
no
rancid urchin
yeah
void void
๐
strange bane
I have my own protection plugin. ๐
unreal quarry
most of us do ^_^
strange bane
It's still commands though.
-----[ Region ]-----
- /rg start
- /rg end
- /rg add <username>
- /rg remove <username>
- /rg rename <name>
- /rg delete
- /rg extend <distance>
what killed my last server is that people didnt like having commands and shit they just wanted vanilla, rn i have DiscordSRV and Dynmap im looking for like, small tweaks to vanilla
yeah
people though it made the made the game too easy to be able to just, protect there base, or tp
i feel the same way
unreal quarry
then dont install those things
rancid urchin
no
void void
chair plugin to sit on stairs with signs on each side @rancid urchin
rancid urchin
i didnt say i wanted grief pro... nvm
what ever
yeah
that dosent mean grief protection
void void
then install coreprotect and if someone get griefed you will have to use command to rollback and punish who griefed
rancid urchin
its a rule on my server not to grief.
nvm
what ever
ill just do vanilla tweak datapacks
void void
๐ค
rancid urchin
Im looking for stuff like this: https://vanillatweaks.net/picker/datapacks/
unreal quarry
@rancid urchin you just have to know what you want, man. once you know then look for solutions the provide what you want. no one else can tell you what plugins to get because everyone's view point is very different. this is a journey one must take alone ๐
rancid urchin
there is no griefing on my server
i dont have Tag installed
first of all. I wouldnt let you on the server, second of all, its a private server with about 30 friends we all respect each other, its not that i dont want people to grief, is that nobody wants to grief in the first place.
void void
30 people... what if one decide to act like a ****
rancid urchin
I literarily just want small plugins that would add little things to the game
void void
mfw no 30 minecraft friends
unreal quarry
@rancid urchin really. you have to know what you want. "small things" ok, what small things? you have to be able to answer these yourself before you can get anything. and at that point you dont need to ask anyone
no one can help with this
rancid urchin
I already gave an example, i just want little things that tweak the game to make it slightly different that is all, like Dynmap ive given SO many examples
void void
I litterally told you a chair plugin
rancid urchin
thats a good one
void void
RFChairs
rancid urchin
Thx
any more, im just looking for like, in general plugins, like the vanilla tweaks datapack i sent
void void
they have commands
rancid urchin
it has 1 command, and its a help command dude
void void
what about the sethome datapack
rancid urchin
you dont have to be a dick about me saying no commands. what i mean about no comamnds is like, No TP no sethome, no commands that make the game easier
unreal quarry
^
void void
๐
griefprevention doesn't have any commands that make the game easier
and you denied to use it
you denied it because it has commadns
rancid urchin
omg never mind you guys are too litteral.
unreal quarry
he's at a hard spot. he wants something, but he doesnt know what he wants. we've all been there
he needs inspiration
void void
you need gf
unreal quarry
my last big inspiration was my wife saying "i wish i could ride these dolphins" and bam, i made the ridables plugin
pft
if they had baby seals, i'd add clubs to the game just to hit them with
runs
void void
make love not war
unreal quarry
mojang didnt say that. it was the community outlash
mojang was going to make them ridable
rancid urchin
You have no idea what kind of plugin i want, even though i have tried to explain. I just want a plugin, that dosen't make the game easier, but also dosent ruin the point of vanilla, rn i my server has rules that prevent griefing, and if it does happen that person is banned, and the person griefed moves on. I just want something like, double shulker shells. Maybe tamable foxes, or stuff like that.
void void
I just want a plugin
Dude look through the plugin list
try to find something that fits
rancid urchin
you guys didnt even read all of that
and i can tell
what ever
bye
no
you didnt READ IT
void void
" rn i my server has rules that prevent griefing, and if it does happen that person is banned, and the person griefed moves on."
Then you need coreprotect
unreal quarry
some of her code is still in the dolphins class @spare venture ^_^
rancid urchin
yeah BECAUSE NO ONE DOES
rancid urchin
you dont get the point
void void
glhf
rancid urchin
i swear
unreal quarry
just let it go @spare venture
rancid urchin
i dont want fucking grief protect, im saying, NO ONE GRIEFS. we are all NICE, i want something like the OTHER half of my message
void void
me too
unreal quarry
gonna be a few hours ๐
rancid urchin
but you didnt read it, your SOOOO fixated on core protect
void void
and crying because of my mob tower
strange bane
Oh, I wouldn't render on 1.14.1.
rancid urchin
what ever
rancid urchin
if you just read
void void
๐
strange bane
barty, you're going to lose a lot of entities.
void void
@rancid urchin I litteraly read everything as I answered each sentence
unreal quarry
@rancid urchin i could say the same to you. you've ignored my countless messages to you about how no one can help you with what you're looking for. drop it or i'll drop you.
strange bane
Why are you rendering then?
mint ferry
Is there any plugin to render every chunk on the world before people play on my server so noone experiences chunk generation?
rancid urchin
its barty who is fixated on coreprotect
void void
๐
rancid urchin
Actually yeah is there a plugin like @mint ferrys
like what they are asking
i would like that
unreal quarry
@mint ferry WorldBorder pregenerates chunks. but i would wait for paper to get async chunks patch back. pregen is not neccesary with that patch ๐
rancid urchin
that dosent help at all
void void
you guys need hot water ๐ฐ and bubble tea ๐ต
mint ferry
@unreal quarry I would be running on 1.13.2 so that means I wont have to wait correct? First time hosting a sever mb if silly questions.
rancid urchin
IM ASKING YOU, all my friends know JACK SHIT about plugins
void void
they don't need to know about plugins
rancid urchin
btw rn i my server has rules that prevent griefing, and if it does happen that person is banned, and the person griefed moves on. I just want something like, double shulker shells. Maybe tamable foxes, or stuff like that.
void void
they don't need to know what's a plugin is, they need to answer you what they would find cool to be added in the game
nobody needs to know about plugins and/or code
limber knotBOT
rude
void void
are beta testers developers in game development ?
spare venture
rancid urchin
ill ask what they want
unreal quarry
@mint ferry i wouldn't worry about generating chunks on the fly with 1.13.2, aikar did some amazing work with async chunks. it generates just as fast as loading existing chunks ๐
gloomy sphinx
i have no idea what you guys are talking about but screw coreprotect
rancid urchin
THANK YOU
ive tried saying that, i dont want that but barty keeped pushing it, im fine rn he clearly is going to marry that plugin but i think he gave good advice before i got kicked.
void void
My blood is boiling
rancid urchin
i just said, i liked ur advice
gloomy sphinx
why would anyone want such buggy, laggy, unoptimized, and massive plugin on your server when you can just have protecton tools for the players
rancid urchin
I just said i liked his advice but ok
rancid urchin
im gonna just stick with datapacks
tropic flame
I have no idea what you guys are talking about but someone said screw coreprotect, and that is unconstitutional in this secular State
gloomy sphinx
coreprotect is a backdoor
rancid urchin
do you have to keep going with the stupid core proctect
gloomy sphinx
a back door into a laggy server with no use. if you need core protect you need to rethink your mc server strategy
void void
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core protwect is backdor yes
I'm done
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mc server strategy for a friend server
rancid urchin
@void void so whats ur issue with mob spawners?
void void
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void void
@rancid urchin it's mob tower
unreal quarry
void void
that design was taken from a 1.14 video
gloomy sphinx
who cares the guy is like 50 years old and probably cant see the screen anyways. at least it works
gloomy sphinx
mike prim right
rancid urchin
im out.
unreal quarry
pulsar wigeon
how much lul
unreal quarry
whatever mcpconfig spits out ๐
void void
420$
unreal quarry
its not complete yet
pulsar wigeon
eh?
void void
microsoft needs some damage control slides
pulsar wigeon
that's not mcdev - mcp tho
that's obf - mcp
and i also have obf - mcdev
just need to put them together
cosmic raft
again, you're not reading what wiz is typing
void void
cosmic raft
md_5 mappings -> mcp mappings
void void
wait rly
cosmic raft
yes really
unreal quarry
thats what mcdev is? o_O i call that nms
cosmic raft
unreal quarry
yeah, never heard it called mcdev before. odd
void void
I have turbo autism, I love to map obfuscated code, I did it for 5 hours long with no break for another game
pulsar wigeon
nms doesn't make sense
nms is mojang code
all the nms we have is obf
the nms we use is md_5 de-obf
the nms i use in forge is mcp de-obf
i do both
and right now i have md_5 mappings and mcp mappings open in two text files and searching in one to find obf name, and then searching the other to find forge name
and they use different formats lol
cosmic raft
so what is it you want to do right now
pulsar wigeon
translate from md5 <-> mcp deobf
i have a bunch of essentially pure nms md5 code that i am porting to forge
unreal quarry
talk to demonwav. he's got something for that, iirc
pulsar wigeon
almost done at this point, but it would be nice in the future
unreal quarry
idk if its up to 1.14 yet, tho
pulsar wigeon
intellij helps a lot
cosmic raft
example class?
cosmic raft
.--.-.-
pulsar wigeon
you always ask me lots of questions
void void
I think coding a script to make the difference between the two is not really hard
cosmic raft
alright, you can just read my mind from now on then
pulsar wigeon
ok well while you work on that aquazus, i'll just finish this
void void
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unreal quarry
harder than it sounds jordan ๐
void void
@cosmic raft You know I love you dear ?
pulsar wigeon
unreal quarry
what we really need is md_5 to use srg mappings since he doesnt want to go full blown mcp. at least then people like us can work between the two with ease
void void
isn't that too "big" of a change ?
pulsar wigeon
unreal quarry
it'd be a big one time change. after that, srg mappings dont change between versions.
void void
Yeah that's what I was thinking
void void
hmm
unreal quarry
i never understood why the original bukkit team broke paths with mcp in the first place
its just been a downhill battle since then
void void
so if spigot never uses srg mappings, I think it's too much of a pain to use them for paper because it would require... rebasing all the spigot patches and then paper ones ?
and I forgot about CB lol
seems impossible, or at least too big
unreal quarry
craftbukkit, once upon a time, used to use mcp mappings. somewhere along the lines (1.4 i think) they decided to not use mcp mappings anymore and do their own thing
pulsar wigeon
uh, when was this
maybe my memory is fuzzy, but bukkit predates mcp afaik
or maybe they were about the same time
also it was probably a matter of "they don't update fast enough"
void void
or they wanted to not... "depend" on someone else ?
unreal quarry
i cant go into details because i'm just a nobody. but i do remember each craftbukkit release being delayed waiting for mcp to be available for awhile before the switch
pulsar wigeon
yea that would explain it
pretty sure MCP has never been FLOSS
so i doubt the bukkit team had much choice other than make their own or wait
void void
oh rly ?
pulsar wigeon
yup
unreal quarry
yeah, but looking back i think the wait heavily outweighs the divide we have today, though
at least imho
pulsar wigeon
eh
you realize mcp took like, 8 months for 1.13?
since they had to rewrite the whole toolchain
jade mountain
the mappings were released fairly soon tho?
unreal quarry
yeah, just that 1, because everyone was busy doing something new in forge
void void
just remember how long optifine took
unreal quarry
the rest were all reasonable
limber knotBOT
thats the problem.. some times mcp was not updated until a new major minecraft version was released.
pulsar wigeon
oh, yea i guess bukkit just needs mappings
jade mountain
I don't think it used to be that fast though, so you are correct in that sense
void void
I hate that we need these tools and everything
pulsar wigeon
i mean, we don't
we could just work with mojang obf names
that would be a lot worse tho
pulsar wigeon
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void void
They want to open the code of blaze3d, they opened brigadier
limber knotBOT
because mojang does not want that
void void
They want to be more open source
Then make the server code open instead of forcing people to map it
pulsar wigeon
yea open source libraries is not even close to open source game
LOTS of companies open source libraries
heck, everyone is using guava
does that mean we get google's search algorithm?
lul
void void
The server code is not the full game code, there's no rendering engine
limber knotBOT
but its a huge part of the game
pulsar wigeon
whatever you say
dreamy pendant
pulsar wigeon
void void
I mean, they don't want to make the server open source but people still get the decompiled and mapped code at the end...
And iirc mojang team members contributed to mcp ?
or made it
I don't remember
jade mountain
those associations predate their employment at mojang
pulsar wigeon
^^
pulsar wigeon
since searge got hired, lex does mcp now
etc
the only exception maybe is the 1.8 kerfluffe
Twitter
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) @Dinnerbone (Nathan Adams): I started Bukkit, I'm going to personally see it through for 1.8. Updating it now :) (4 years and 9 months ago)
limber knotBOT
:D
unreal quarry
imagine how good 1.8 would have been if he did get to update it. insider knowledge ftw ^_^
gloomy sphinx
my eyes feel like they are meditating when i turn on night light mode
limber knotBOT
Uptime: 31 days, 4 hours, 0 minutes, 20 seconds
Message Handling: 3ms / 1ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 7861 (8%)
Messages from Discord: 96241 (92%)
nice
limber knotBOT
how big is your world?
void void
not very big
void void
unreal quarry
3d maps suck ๐
limber knotBOT
1.13 or 1.14?
void void
1.14
limber knotBOT
i still did not mange to get a 1.14 map generated.. worldborder fills just crash the server after some time with oom
what is your memory allocation?
max memory is 8 gb
void void
limber knotBOT
odd
limber knotBOT
ok
brokkoli are you generating your world with players on it?
no
how often are you doing restarts?
its just an empty server, no plugins but worldborder
i want to pregenerate a map... but it does not work
how often are you restarting?
me?
yes
how often are you restarting your server
when i start generating it it crashes after about 1 or 2 hours
try restarting your server every 20 mins
I personally would just wait until all paper world loading/generation patches are updated to 1.14 especially the async chunk stuff.
and i started the server just before starting the worldborder fill
limber knotBOT
yeah ive read this whole thread before
unreal quarry
scarz aint so bad ^_^
limber knotBOT
why is he lying about his partnership with pebblehost lol
unreal quarry
?
void void
limber knotBOT
i updated to the latest version and it wasnt working properly so i downgraded
void void
Yeah, like everyone
He's calling me a lier
He told me "Go away if you're too thick headed to understand that. I don't want toxic people like you using my plugin or having any involvement with it."
Well then dude, I started my own discord plugin
limber knotBOT
do you use any chat formatting plugins billy
unreal quarry
only my own
limber knotBOT
it overwrote my chat format and editing discord's config didnt change anything
and i dont really care, plugin works for me, ill probably never need to upgrade until 1.15
void void
"Go AwAy If You'Re ThIcK HeAdEd" ok boi
at least I will not sell myself for a pebblehost coupon
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unreal quarry
he doesnt make any money from pebble...
unreal quarry
he's not?
unreal quarry
he promotes them, and vice versa. theres no money exchange going on there
brittle tinsel
fair. I just hopped in cause I saw the page
limber knotBOT
he advertises pebblehost through his plugin and on his github, and refuses to let people disable it until a few days ago where it requires a startup flag
brittle tinsel
I've never actually messed with the plugin
unreal quarry
it all started when someone wanted a host, and scarz looked into it for them and recommended pebble. thats all it was lol
he's not a bad guy, he just doesnt sugar coat things
limber knotBOT
he took it a little farther than that it seems
unreal quarry
so he comes off as a dick
pebble is the one that reached out for the partnership
its not even a partnership, really. idk what to call it
limber knotBOT
they advertise his plugin?
unreal quarry
idk, i dont use or visit pebble
limber knotBOT
he must be raking in the donations i guess
unreal quarry
but i've seen pebble everywhere, even on Linus Tech Tips
brittle tinsel
Pebble has a partner page. Doesn't really say any perks of being a partner. Probably just being on that page alone.
limber knotBOT
yeah its just a vps/shared host
void void
Don't tell me linus is not getting paid for the advertisement then ๐
unreal quarry
i'm sure linus is, yeah
limber knotBOT
usually people dont shill for another website for free
limber knotBOT
i just dont get the forced advertisement
void void
"it wasn't meant for end users to toggle" thanks..
limber knotBOT
if he isnt profiting off of it, why not let people disable it?
unreal quarry
like i said. he's not rude. he just doesnt sugar coat things. he spoke the truth there lol
dont be a snowflake about it ๐
void void
"It's made for server hosts" so every server hosts will have to add that variable just because of that guy ?
That's just so dumb man
void void
Too late, I started my own plugin
unreal quarry
he only added the startup flag because people were starting to fork his project just to remove it
void void
I'm tired of that bs
limber knotBOT
liars irk me tho
limber knotBOT
i dont get why he added it as a startup flag lol
unreal quarry
minehut even went as far as ripping out his debug reports in their fork. so now we cant even give minehut users proper support
limber knotBOT
weird way of doing things
mint ferry
Any way to get a free version of MCMMO? I see the files on jenkins websites but IDK what minecraft version each file is for. Pm me if you can help please ๐
brittle tinsel
If you want to start your own, I like using JDA, personally.
limber knotBOT
build it yourself
void void
I'm using Javacord
limber knotBOT
he also puts it on that nono website
brittle tinsel
Never heard of that one. I've seen Discord4J. Used it for a bit, but it broke when going to 1.13. So I found JDA and hadn't searched since. It's been well.
brittle tinsel
I do have to do the webhooks myself
unreal quarry
JDA sucks, but its the best we have for java
acoustic pilot
JDA > Discord4J > Javacord in terms of stars/forks on GH
brittle tinsel
It's good enough for me ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
I don't do much besides verify users "connect" to their in game account through an invite link
limber knotBOT
@unreal quarry what issues do you have with JDA? because one of my bots runs it ;_;
brittle tinsel
^
unreal quarry
all my bots run it too
void void
That's just a gaz factory
limber knotBOT
just don't want to be surprised one day xD
unreal quarry
i just dont like the direction JDA is moving towards in respect to minecraft. we had a horrible time working with loggers awhile back because they made some stupid change with them
nothing against them personally
limber knotBOT
oh wait, one of my hobby bots is running javacord xD
like that more from an api viewpoint than jda iirc
void void
I'm going to buy a new domain for me, moving from .fr, what's your favorite tld ?
brittle tinsel
Is there a method to suggest API additions to Discord?
unreal quarry
i dont remember the specifics now, but i think we got around it by relocating their logger in order for the minecraft logger to stop crashing
limber knotBOT
ah, yeah, JDA is the one with this insanity: http://git.io/fj8Cp
void void
holy
limber knotBOT
while Javacord has a proper event system iirc
brittle tinsel
425 lines
void void
"Refactoring teachers hate him!"
brittle tinsel
understandably
I do like JDA, though. While some stuff may be a little inconvenient, it's great for my small purposes. I need to do more with it.
void void
I'm hesitating between .me and .net
brittle tinsel
as you said. Tastes
void void
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the map is trying to communicate with you
or that's some kind of minecraft crop circles
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unreal quarry
crop circles
void void
gotcha
brittle tinsel
M'net
Make more circles to show who's boss
Maybe that's the problem ๐ค
Crop squares
visual swift
brittle tinsel
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limber knotBOT
expecting fawe to work agin on 1.13+
void void
You're going to have very big crop squares if you use fawe