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tropic flame
woven otter
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but the question is can you make money knowing that fact

limber knotBOT
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@void void [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

finite wave
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That’s most likely not an issue with Paper

golden gust
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We'd need to see logs

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you're using an unsupported version of the software

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and likely the wrong build of protocollib for that version of the server

tropic flame
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@void void if you really want to use 1.8 you will have to use Spigot 1.8.8, not Spigot 1.8.0

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(obviously we recommend Paper instead of Spigot but 🤷 since your issue is with Spigot)

stone moon
finite wave
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Also git-Spigot-550ebac-7019900?

tropic flame
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well, if you're moving to Paper then maybe try the latest 1.8.8 build of Paper

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keep in mind that no more bugfixes are being released for that version though

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@void void try the 1.8.8 build then

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you said you updated your plugins, nowadays if plugins support 1.8.x they only support the latest build which is 1.8.8

limber knotBOT
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lol, it's still paperspigot for 1.8.8, no?

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Amaranth: [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

stiff yarrow
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@wide hazel that looks really nice

limber knotBOT
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Amaranth: how's the rock64?

rustic finch
limber knotBOT
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I apparently ordered the EU plug for the power adapter

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New one (from amazon, screw waiting for them to ship it) just showed up yesterday so I haven't had a chance to mess with it yet

wide hazel
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I nabbed an XU-4 recently. Nice system :O

limber knotBOT
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Ah okay

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I dare you

pulsar wigeon
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that's disgusting tbh

limber knotBOT
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D:

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how dare you

pulsar wigeon
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looks like some 90s html site filled with <blink> and <marquee>

limber knotBOT
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oh marquee

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that's a good one

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let me add that one next

pulsar wigeon
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oh god

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what have I done

limber knotBOT
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:D

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it's like people don't event remember the old runescape : flash :

pulsar wigeon
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:flash::wave2:selling lobbies 400g/ea

dire tendon
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Wtf thats ugly

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Is this hooked on phonics or something?

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I know you're supposed to read left to right

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Its like its taunting me or something

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If you read faster than the animation its so annoying

limber knotBOT
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400g my man

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I'll buy them at 240 and resell them at 300

dire tendon
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What are you talking about?"

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But for real

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Just having no animation

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Is 10000000000000000000 times better

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Than whatever this is

pulsar wigeon
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idk, back when i was fishing lobbies i remember them being 350-400g ea

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that was what, 13 years ago?

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how old am I anyway

gloomy sphinx
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42

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but I am 13 check out this bad boy

pulsar wigeon
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is that supposed to be good or something

gloomy sphinx
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yeah

fresh maple
indigo hearth
finite wave
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I used a bot

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That is rookie numbers

fallen jungle
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Hello Jan

finite wave
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Heya Jet

fallen jungle
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I have no idea what I'm doing here

teal wharf
austere ivy
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Hi folks.

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So I need to store playerdata for my server's plugin, and I was tossing back and forth SQLite and MongoDB.

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On one hand, I've seen plugins like CoreProtect use SQLite and it seems to work well, and you can just store everything in one place rather than having a database.

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But it just seems pretty complicated to actually use and just connecting to MongoDB(cloud) seems pretty easy.

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So I just wanted to get your guys' opinions on how I should connect to MongoDB from my server. There's some things like Morphia or something and I'm not sure what I should do

sick laurel
stiff yarrow
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@austere ivy and you can just store everything in one place rather than having a database. that's still a database

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if you want speed and cross server support, you can use MySQL/MariaDB

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and then you can use the same query language for SQLite if you want to provide that option too

austere ivy
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I suppose it's still a database buuut it's just in one place (plugins folder) rather than something external.

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And this is just for my server so I don't have to provide options or anything

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it's just whatever's best (fastest/easiest)

stiff yarrow
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MySQL doesn't have to be external

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if its stored in MySQL on a local server its just in a file on that PC somewhere else

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but it is a service that you have to run, if thats what you meant

austere ivy
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Oh?

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Yeah/

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It's a service.

stiff yarrow
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SQLite is the service-less version of it

austere ivy
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I just want as little load on the machine so I don't want to have to have a separate application/process thing

stiff yarrow
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and its notoriously slow aPPepoRun

sick laurel
austere ivy
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It is?

stiff yarrow
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MySQL is like 10,000x faster

austere ivy
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Less load?

stiff yarrow
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only provide SQLite for dumbos who can't set it up

austere ivy
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Okay, well I don't really want to run a separate process/application so MongoDB's free 512mb on the cloud is reeaaally attractive.

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Because that's a lot of space and I'm just storing player ontime for now, which is a single int. And it's upgradable..

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I just know I definitely don't want to use a .yml file lol

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How's mongoDB?

stiff yarrow
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if this is just for your private shit do whatever

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but if its for a plugin you're gonna release don't use some free mongodb shared account

austere ivy
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nonono

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it's just private

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strictly private plugin

stiff yarrow
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yeah then do what you want

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but MySQL is very ez to setup

austere ivy
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What do you recommend though?

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It is?

stiff yarrow
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a lot of linux servers come with it preinstalled

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and if its not installed its easy to install

austere ivy
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Alright.

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If I ever do make a plugin that people use I'd probably just provide database/sqlite or something, I don't know.

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But yeah this is just private.

stiff yarrow
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everythings a databse brian

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if you store more than one thing in a file

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and its data

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its a database now

austere ivy
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well.

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I definitely don't want to use .yml

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or sqlite..

stiff yarrow
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there's config files and then there's data files

austere ivy
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I guess it's just between MongoDB and MySQL.

stiff yarrow
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if you use yaml to serialize data probably not the best choice

austere ivy
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On the plugin side, would connecting to MySQL hosted on that PC and MongoDB on the cloud be the same process?

stiff yarrow
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idk you really shouldn't use a server that you can't run on your network

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latency, downtime, etc, all out of your control

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just do MySQL

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@spare venture billy already added it

austere ivy
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Okay, issue is I'll have to try to get in contact with my server host and

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figgle in a mysql server lol

stiff yarrow
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server host

austere ivy
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well.. yeah

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I'm not hosting it myself 👀

stiff yarrow
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first step brian

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delete that hosted subscription

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and go get a cheap dedi

austere ivy
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but it's

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no but like

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a friend of mine who hosts it rather than me

stiff yarrow
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and you pay him

austere ivy
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nope

stiff yarrow
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is it just being hosted on his computer?

austere ivy
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nope

stiff yarrow
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so hes paying for it

austere ivy
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he has a linux machine dedi

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so yeah okay

stiff yarrow
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I guess I forget you're like 14 so you probably can't talk your parents into a monthly bill

austere ivy
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My only question is, is on the plugin side of things, is it the same process connecting to mysql and mongo?

void void
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Lel I am idk why people just have unused dedis lying around

austere ivy
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Or is it completely different?

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I'm just asking because if I start using Mongo or something and I decide to MySQL, do I just have to connect to 127.0.0.1 or whatever it is, instead of Mongo? Or is it completely different since it's NoSQL vs MySQL?

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or.. SQL, I guess.

stiff yarrow
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@austere ivy no, probably not

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they are differen't DB languages

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but you could abstract it

austere ivy
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so I'd just have to change the IP or something like that?

stiff yarrow
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and make it so your code talked to both the same way

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with heavy abstraction

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no brian

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if you want to talk to a SQL server you gotta do it the SQL way

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its a service

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and it expects certain things

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is towny open source

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update it to 1.14?

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leme go load it up to see what a mess it is

austere ivy
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I'll do it for free, no guarantees it'll work 👀

stiff yarrow
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if its a bunch of stuff I'm definitely overcharging

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but if its small edits

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we'll see

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does towny not use gradle or maven

austere ivy
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am I getting rate limited 👀

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how on earth I sent one request ,_,

stiff yarrow
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are you not respecting the rate limit?

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iirc grabbing stuff like player heads has its own rate limit

austere ivy
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darn VotingPlugin

stiff yarrow
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can't believe I'm seeing a Java project without an ezpz way to build it PepeHands

austere ivy
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maven?

finite wave
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Hmm?

austere ivy
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does Towny not use maven?

finite wave
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Gradle pls

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what u building nossr

austere ivy
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Towny

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austere ivy
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barty's asking nossr to update towny for him

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at the cost of Nitros ._,

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is there a nitro black market I'm unaware of?

stiff yarrow
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I don't accept payment in nitros

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anyways, I don't really wanna update it after seeing that its a mess

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stiff yarrow
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but if you insisted I'd do it for a few hundred minimum GWcmeisterPeepoEZ

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heard it here folks

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nossr will not accept pepes

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also nossr who u hiding from

finite wave
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@spare venture Does it not have build system?

austere ivy
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,_,

stiff yarrow
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I forgot to turn this off Thonk

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.g towny github

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://github.com/TownyAdvanced -- Towny Advanced · GitHub: "A plugin for Bukkit Minecraft Servers. Towny Advanced has 4 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub."

GitHub

A plugin for Bukkit Minecraft Servers. Towny Advanced has 4 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.

stiff yarrow
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its bad spotted

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no maven

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no gradle

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spaghetti code only

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looks like you need eclipse to compile it

austere ivy
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👀

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stiff yarrow
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ANT? 🤢

finite wave
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IJ can do it all

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Import maven or ant project bam

austere ivy
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glorious IJ

stiff yarrow
cosmic raft
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OH LORD

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SOMEONE IS UPDATING TOWNY

austere ivy
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is that ant

cosmic raft
austere ivy
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I'm never using ant no no no

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hey atleast Towny recognizes the superior indentation method

stiff yarrow
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you have to actually tell intelliJ where the ant file

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that's how retarded ANT is

finite wave
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@stiff yarrow you have to go edit indentation options

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IJ defaults to 5 spaces

stiff yarrow
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imagine actually choosing to use ant

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mfw this code

stiff yarrow
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yeah..

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its..

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unique

finite wave
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Nossr just redo it

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Redo it all

stiff yarrow
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no

austere ivy
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NOSSR

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I WILL PAY YOU 15 NITROS TO MAKE ME TOWNY 2.0

stiff yarrow
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I'm already in one spaghetti nightmare

austere ivy
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,_,

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nossr please

finite wave
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Upload it under a new name

austere ivy
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hmm how about Towny 2.0

finite wave
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But be like Towny 2.0

austere ivy
stiff yarrow
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brian you could work for a year and still not earn enough to pay me to rewrite this spaghetti

finite wave
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Hehe

austere ivy
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you saying you wouldn't do it for 34k?

finite wave
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I’ll do it for 1k

austere ivy
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you know I'm old enough to get a job

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and old enough to drive

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makin my way downtown

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I'd do it for 5k :>

worn ember
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"to get a job"

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so you dont make money 😉

austere ivy
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goin down to blackmail nossr into updating towny :>

stiff yarrow
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Brian I don't even know if you could earn 500 in a year

austere ivy
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I can legally get hired at mcdonalds.

finite wave
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I’ll do it for 1k in scala

pulsar wigeon
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whether you're old enough to and whether someone would pay you to do something are separate matters

worn ember
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i am 21 so i now expect 35k a year plz

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tnx goverment

stiff yarrow
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also what state allows 14 year olds to work

worn ember
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bangladesh

finite wave
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We can work whenever here, just don’t get paid as much as an adult

worn ember
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so child labor?

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nice

stiff yarrow
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I'd probably also do it for 5k

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after looking at this code I don't even know if I'd do it for 500

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its messy

worn ember
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ask the guy from shaders to shove you 5k

stiff yarrow
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I think I'll just say no to this job LUL

austere ivy
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I'm 15

stiff yarrow
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feel free spotted

austere ivy
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in uh

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5k ill do it

austere ivy
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4 days

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,_,

stiff yarrow
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if someone was willing to pay 5k to update a plugin

austere ivy
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wait

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10 days?

worn ember
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dude makes 24k from pateon

stiff yarrow
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they'd need to get slapped

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:>

austere ivy
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12?

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

worn ember
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rich boi

finite wave
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I’ll do it all

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For the right amounr

worn ember
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@finite wave do me

finite wave
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@worn ember That’ll cost you extra

worn ember
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😢

finite wave
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I think Darkeye tried to make a towny clone

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Called Guilds

worn ember
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not even close

austere ivy
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darkeye

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did you try to make a towny clone called Guilds

finite wave
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Close enough

stiff yarrow
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he named it Drywal, seeking to compete with Conrete and Cemen

worn ember
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it was a plugin that let you seige islands and people in islands were guilds lul

finite wave
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See

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Towny

worn ember
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💩

stiff yarrow
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imagine making 24k a month Thonk

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you're a millionaire in a couple years

austere ivy
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. seriously..

finite wave
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I make 100k a month

austere ivy
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High doubt.

finite wave
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By sleeping

austere ivy
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24k a month you'd be a millionaire in 4 years

finite wave
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Lol

austere ivy
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Jan how on earth do you make 100k a month

stiff yarrow
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you need to account for taxes

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living expenses

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etc

austere ivy
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lo

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lol okay

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yes living expenses sure

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but unless you're living in a mansion, 24k is going to make you a millionaire in ATLEAST 10 years.

stiff yarrow
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what if you invest your money you dingus

austere ivy
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if you're making that much why invest lol

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I mean I guess you could

stiff yarrow
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then your money is tied up in volatile bitcoin

finite wave
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I invest 100k every month and always get over double back due to my large intellect.

stiff yarrow
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why invest?

austere ivy
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patreon pays you in bitcoin?

stiff yarrow
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jesus Brian

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I'm leaving

austere ivy
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,_,

finite wave
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I’m kidding bte

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stiff yarrow
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nossrmanshock 🚪

austere ivy
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Patreon gives you bitcoin?

finite wave
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Yes

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Only bitcoin

austere ivy
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What!?

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That's nuts.

pulsar wigeon
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LUL

finite wave
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Yes no real money

austere ivy
rotund obsidian
austere ivy
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Looking at bitcoin always saddens me, since I could've invested when it was .. like.. a dollar per bitcoin.

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Then again there are people who bought 100k worth of bitcoin when it was at 10k

finite wave
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That’s how it works?

austere ivy
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Yeah, yikes, that's a lot of losses.

finite wave
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People invest loose, people who don’t still loose

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Some win

austere ivy
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Loose?

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people who invest lose?

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I mean yeah but at the same time I'm just trying to say when you're making 24k a month you don't really have to invest

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you're at that point where you can have a pretty stable life, there's not really a huge need to invest.

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I don't know it's their money, do whatever

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I'm going to go try to setup mysql

finite wave
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Making 24k a month is a great time to invest

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nossr is Brian the new Ivan?

pulsar wigeon
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"new"

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brian has been retarded the whole time

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is this your first time realizing

finite wave
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No i’ve had him blocked for quite some time now

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brian is the king of baiting

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once again he shows his true skill

finite wave
cosmic raft
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@finite wave #adorable-pets

finite wave
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Mhm

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Barty how much u paying

cedar spade
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"what" - kash, 2019

finite wave
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Whats the mac

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Max

cedar spade
finite wave
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Hmm?

cedar spade
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asked for a quote thinksmart

finite wave
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Idek what the changes are

bronze minnow
frigid socket
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Oh hey. That's me

finite wave
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Shocker

orchid pelican
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I now have a fake plant on my desk

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I feel acheived in life

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so you're like z750

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except you have a fake plant instead of a fake brain

visual bane
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woven otter
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lol

austere ivy
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very nice

woven otter
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does leaf have a script to automatically join paper as well

austere ivy
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quick question is it safe to assume almost always, when the server closes, all the players will have a PlayerQuitEvent?

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other than a crash?

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no

austere ivy
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dangit.

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I'm doing a database and I'm tracking players' ontime

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I either need to update all the player's stuff every minute or something and update on PlayerQuitEvent

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which would be a lot worse

cedar sun
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on disable dumbass :>

austere ivy
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.. than just updating on PlayerQu

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OH

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you know what thank you

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very intelligent

stiff yarrow
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@spare venture my quotes 500 🤑

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@spare venture

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gib money Kappa

austere ivy
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Hi.

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I'm trying to do MongoDB right now and I need a way to create a document if it doesn't exist, but if it does, update it?

tropic ginkgo
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Hey

austere ivy
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I'm looking around and there doesn't seem to be anything clear cut.. I've seen something called insert around but.. I dunno

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should I just find() and then update if I found it or insert if I haven't?

hard kernel
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...

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...

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...

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is it out yet?

upper flicker
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what are you ...'ing about?

haughty cove
limber knotBOT
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1.14

austere ivy
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

upper flicker
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feel free to check the bottom of #announcements before you get thrown out

austere ivy
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or, you know, fed to the goblins.

normal echo
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Do the goblins eat all of the person or only some? 👺

limber knotBOT
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goblins are already waiting for impatient 1.14.1 eta askers

austere ivy
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when 1.14.1 mOJANG

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runs

limber knotBOT
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get b&

austere ivy
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bampersand?

limber knotBOT
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'and'

austere ivy
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andampersand?

ebon forum
frigid socket
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The heck are these roles. xD

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specifically "no table"

austere ivy
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Yeah.

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They prefer desks.

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(just don't say "table" in front of them, you might anger them)

frigid socket
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...table

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Just an instaban 😛

pulsar wigeon
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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

frigid socket
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Excuse me. That's a table.

peak dirge
strange bane
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Looks much cleaner than the current site! You're completely free to use that design because the Paper community page got a slight redesign recently, aha.

peak dirge
frigid socket
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What is this? O.o

peak dirge
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I made a new Minecraft server proxy called Velocity, with a different API. The Paper people liked my old website enough that they took it and extended it to form their new website (https://papermc.io).

I am now redesigning my website (https://www.velocitypowered.com) because it's dated and needs to change now that the project is maturing.

frigid socket
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Ooohh. Okay. That's cool!

peak dirge
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(I founded the Waterfall project, but I felt it was better to make a clean break with BungeeCord.)

strange bane
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That logo is killer BTW, did you make it?

peak dirge
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Nope

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Paid someone to make it

frigid socket
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So...can I get a TL;DR on what it does? Or what is special about it?

strange bane
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It's BungeeCord without the md_5. 😛

frigid socket
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Ah. That works. xD

peak dirge
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And a better API.
And more efficient internals.
In my opinion, it's turbo-charged Waterfall.

frigid socket
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Man. Everyone here is so smart! Then there's me xD

strange bane
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...but no way to add reconnecting when the server closed, yet. I will continue to look forward to that, even if it'll never happen.

peak dirge
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...thought I added that long ago

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It's at least back in February/March, and much improved last month

strange bane
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As in if the server stops, the player will just remain where they are until the server is back online.

peak dirge
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Oh, that?

strange bane
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Yeah, the thing I was trying to do with the API a little while back. I had to resort to Waterfall.

finite wave
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Hmm

strange bane
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I didn't use the Velocity API much but the replacement of plugin.yml with annotations made me think "This is the future" 😛

austere ivy
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I personally think a lot of parts of Bukkit's API just needs to change.

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And I don't understand why they haven't, really.

peak dirge
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"Compatibility"

austere ivy
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Yeah yeah, but there's just a lot better ways to do everything IMO.

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And there's some things that just plainly don't make sense.

peak dirge
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And if you want the Bukkit API to change, may I introduce you to the Sponge project, which has already done so?

austere ivy
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I run a server, I develop a custom plugin for it.

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A lot of other plugins I use are bukkit only..

strange bane
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Now, if only Sponge would update to 1.13/1.14. 😛

peak dirge
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Velocity still technically generate a plugin information file, otherwise it'd be inefficient to actually query plugins. It's called velocity-plugin.json.

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But the annotation processor takes care of that noise behind the scenes.

strange bane
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Yeah I renamed the compiled plugin to .zip and opened it.

austere ivy
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I feel like Bukkit doesn't need a huge overhaul it just needs some tweaks here and there.

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If only we could have CoreProtect for sponge 👀

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CoreProtect, HeadDatabase, a whole lot of others that just don't work on sponge, it's a shame, since sponge looks great.

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sponge lul

finite wave
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Sponge has alternatives

austere ivy
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Are there any bukkit(/sponge) alternatives that are compatible with bukkit plugins ,_,

pulsar wigeon
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the fuck does that even mean

finite wave
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Concrete

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Brian is a little braindead tbh

austere ivy
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Read up, Wiz. I'm just saying there's some parts of bukkit's api that are silly and should be changed/updated and they just haven't been, then Tux said look at sponge.

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Sponge just doesn't work with bukkit plugins I already use in my server so I can't just update my own plugins and have it work.

finite wave
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Are there any google drive alternatives that uses google drive?

austere ivy
#

You said "sponge has alternatives"

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I said "are there any alternatives that work with bukkit plugins" and obviously no, so sponge just doesn't work

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for me, at least.

finite wave
#

Why ask the question then

vestal jasper
#

Remake all the plugins you use in sponge

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ez

austere ivy
wraith oracle
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If something is compatible with Bukkit plugins, that means it has the exact same API or does some weird shit for it to be that way

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So, choose your poison

finite wave
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.g concreate minecraft server site:github.com

limber knotBOT
finite wave
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.g concrete minecraft server site:github.com

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) https://github.com/Spottedleaf/Concrete -- GitHub - Spottedleaf/Concrete: experimental changes to paper: "Concrete. Experimental fork of paper. I would personally not recommend using this in a production server (or at all). The fork is based off of..."

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experimental changes to paper. Contribute to Spottedleaf/Concrete development by creating an account on GitHub.

vestal jasper
#

I'd joke about doing the bukkit version of spongeforge but I'm not sure that's very doable

finite wave
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There u go

austere ivy
#

What makes Concrete so good anyway

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.g what makes concrete so good anyway

limber knotBOT
void void
#

how to anoy devs? say ETA 😂

vestal jasper
limber knotBOT
#

hmm

static badge
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lul aero

frigid socket
#

Did someone say ETA?

void void
#

ye we need to make meme about girl and dog

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dog barks ETA

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girl says he is retarded

vestal jasper
#

"Why am I experiencing X issue with Y item?"

player doesn't have item Y
🆗

livid swan
cosmic raft
#

am ordered mcdonalds

static badge
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ur fat

cosmic raft
#

fat

void void
#

meme arrows detected

limber knotBOT
#

what is the recommended amount of CPU cores per 1 vanilla paper/spigot?

cosmic raft
#

according to a calculator, i'm just over the minimum for "Healthy BMI Range" for my gender/age/height

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so take that leaf

void void
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what is the recommended dedicated wam fow minecwaft sewvew

limber knotBOT
#

about 10 GB for vanilla

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did you not know?

void void
limber knotBOT
#

nah i buy my ram

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the question is too hardcore for you to grasp?

cosmic raft
thin root
austere ivy
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kash

cosmic raft
#

hi

austere ivy
#

I think you like cats so I just wanted to let you know that there's been this random pure black cat that was popping up around my hotel, like around the pool and stuff, we could never actually get a picture of it

cosmic raft
#

rip

austere ivy
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but just recently it came near the kitchen and I could give it some ham, and ever since it's been coming somewhat every night

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and this night it let me touch him,

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we named him Onyx, and I'll get you a picture of them soon :D

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I don't know how good he is for pictures since he's pure black but.. still a cutie!

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he only comes at night though.. so we can't get a good picture, rip

void void
#

he didnt say rip bc u couldnt get a good pic

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he said rip cuz that cat is a demon and gon kill u

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rip

austere ivy
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well it is fully black lol

void void
#

bye brian, good luck

austere ivy
#

I'm not ruling that out as a possibility 👀

static badge
#

mfw still baiting

shell vine
#

Master baiter

icy schooner
void void
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hey @icy schooner it said leave your weapons at the door!

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shots ring out

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OH GOD

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OH FUCK

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HELP

cosmic raft
#

work on what?

gloomy sphinx
#

has there been any updates to spigot 1.14?

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or is it the same since April 22

unreal quarry
#

you know theres updates every few hours, right?

gloomy sphinx
#

where can I view

unreal quarry
#

in their stash

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its a git repo similar to github

gloomy sphinx
#

sweet

gloomy sphinx
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thanks

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I wonder what stability is like compared to a week ago

unreal quarry
#

this is why download mirrors are so shit, imho. users have no idea whats actually going on anymore

rain swan
void void
#

"anymore"

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as if they ever did lmao

pulsar wigeon
#

oof

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aquazus' pull got merged, but still no player cause

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big F

void void
#

hes gonna throw the 1st pitch may 6

timid beacon
broken ravine
timid beacon
#

Hello, is this the right place to ask about a question for the paper server? UwU

unreal quarry
#

yes \o/

void void
timid beacon
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Thanks friend

void void
#

but also yes

timid beacon
#

Oh

void void
#

if ppl are talking here you can ask

timid beacon
#

Quick question, is it possible to convert a vanilla server to a paper server with all the existing files from vanilla?

void void
#

yes

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just replace the server jar

unreal quarry
#

indeed it is

timid beacon
#

Oh my lord. Thank you

void void
#

but it gets quirky if the versions are too different

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like 1.8 -> 1.13 or so? be careful, but if it's a recent vanilla and you want to run paper you're fine.

timid beacon
#

Yeah got you, and if i recall 1.14 is completely buggy at the moment. Would you recommend to upgrade a paper sever over a vanilla server for the optimization that comes along from the paper server? Noob here UwU

void void
#

i would always recommend to use paper

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i wouldn't run 1.14 right now though, it's still indev. Do 1.13.2

timid beacon
#

Alright, Thanks man

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& i already loaded some new chunks on 1.14, would it be fine to run it back in 1.13.2?

void void
#

hmmm

timid beacon
#

Chunks are about 5K blocks away since i explored a fair amount on 1.13.2

void void
#

im not sure how much changed world-wise, tbh, i just got back from a long overseas vacation so still catching up

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@unreal quarry do u know

merry talon
#

try it and find out

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with a backup of course

timid beacon
#

Alright, ill let you guys know the outcome. Thank you for the help

limber knotBOT
#

Looking at the git server. Is /ver/1.14-pre5 where the dev code is? Not seeing any new commits

#

git branch -a looks more or less the same

unreal quarry
#

1.14-pre5 is where the 1.14 work is being done

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i've also noticed a lack of commits recently. thinking about doing it myself, but i'm lazy af

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^_^

limber knotBOT
#

You waiting for spigot 101 to get bumped?

unreal quarry
#

more like waiting for 1.14.1 from mojang

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1.14 is so broken

limber knotBOT
#

thats for fucking sure

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I mean REALLY broken

#

prolly a good idea. have a felling the spigot guys are thinking the same

#

Wonder what Mojang was thinking?

limber knotBOT
#

this is what happens when SJW hire chicks with pink hair and shit

vestal jasper
#

🆗

gloomy sphinx
#

qxt knows it

pallid shore
#

when is paper 1.14 gonna be released?

golden gust
left yacht
#

Quality takes time, though my players don't understand that.

#

actually they don't understand common sense

pulsar wigeon
golden gust
#

I just wish people would actually spend the time to like.. you know.. read shit

upper flicker
#

The small vocal minority who constantly moan about it are too entitled and needy to let something as trivial as reading get in the way of their disorder

pulsar wigeon
#

Z likes moaning :^)

bold zephyr
#

what is reading

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what a novel concept

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ive never heard of it

pulsar wigeon
#

is it just me or does that fan have some nice big gaps in the guards where you can stick body parts in?

vestal jasper
golden gust
#

it just looks weird

bold zephyr
#

hmm

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that fan would jam

pulsar wigeon
#

yea it's asymmetric too

bold zephyr
#

at best it would maybe bruise you

golden gust
#

Stick your finger in for us

#

#Science

bold zephyr
#

lmao

pulsar wigeon
#

well, it doesn't look like it's going very fast due to framerate

#

(possibly camera rolling shutter? or just post blur effects)

limber knotBOT
#

sorry electroniccat but

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s/finger/dick

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Correction, <DiscordBot> <02e​le​ct​ro​ni​cc​at​> Stick your dick in for us

pulsar wigeon
#

i mean that's why i left it at "body parts"

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didn't specify

golden gust
void void
#

That's...um...really good advice.

#

tbh

limber knotBOT
#

wizjany you around u cutie pie.

void void
#

Please allow 4 weeks for the family sweat shop to make, package and ship your order*

#

LOL

limber knotBOT
#

have a legit non troll question lmao

void void
#

god damn it

#

@cosmic raft i slept all day so im not mailing shit today

limber knotBOT
#

WE/WG backwards compatible with 1.13.2 as the commits go on daily?

void void
#

maybe monday if im not stupid

golden gust
#

simple doing something

#

k

void void
#

^

limber knotBOT
#

[wizjany] we're still targeting 1.13

#

[wizjany] (.2)

#

Wtf is "Mana" :|

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And cool, ty

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[wizjany] its ur mum

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she dead

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not cool

#

oof

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[wizjany] cool

#

[wizjany] i'm speaking to you from beyond the grave

golden gust
limber knotBOT
#

[wizjany] the only way i'd want to interact with ur punk ass

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this is why we're meant to be man

#

i always knew u had that sparkle of love for m

#

deep down

void void
#

the only reason i send gifs in here sometimes is bc i know it slows leaf's computer down #sorrynotsorry

coarse urchin
#

this.die(); meirl

void void
#

is this supposed to be you?

#

where are you getting your this reference motherfucker

golden gust
#

Lets hope

upper flicker
#

ugh simple is back

wicked nova
limber knotBOT
#

wizjany fix ur shitty fucking site man

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above master used to be a link to 3.x

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[wizjany] just means it's stale lol

#

me4502 even says he dont know why it vanished

#

oof

#

[wizjany] well

#

[wizjany] he doesn't know much :^)

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[wizjany] that page automatically hides old branches

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[wizjany] i think it's 30 days

#

hes been holding the fort down much better than u for quite a few years

#

[wizjany] maybe 3 weeks tho

#

don't talk bad about my good man

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lol

#

[wizjany] wut even

#

[wizjany] he literally just did WE/WG for 1.13

#

[wizjany] like...9 months ago

#

[wizjany] i maintained these trash heaps for 9 years

#

mhm, you tell yourself that <3

#

but he did a damn good job

#

[wizjany] well i was gonna refresh the craftbook build for you but i don't want to waste my cpu cycles on you

#

[wizjany] so i guess i'll skip

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don't waste em

#

cpus are expensive these days

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[wizjany] yea i'd rather mine bitcoin

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bitcoin lol memes

indigo hearth
#

wEn eTa 1.14 mY sErVer iS lAgGinG

unreal quarry
limber knotBOT
#

tOmMoRoW aFtErNoOnS

vestal jasper
#

mana bot?

pulsar wigeon
#

it's esper

#

relayed through spigt

vestal jasper
#

huh

limber knotBOT
#

LOL esper........?

void void
limber knotBOT
#

we're long past 2011 man

void void
#

super cool

nova badge
#

Banger tunes

pulsar wigeon
#

jokes on you, i'm in 3011

vestal jasper
nova badge
#

Is daft punk still around in that year?

vestal jasper
#

no

limber knotBOT
#

am I still around :(

vestal jasper
#

yes

upper flicker
#

still waiting for the next live tour

#

1000 years later

limber knotBOT
#

yes!

vestal jasper
#

wait no

#

you die in 3010

limber knotBOT
#

if wiz is in 3011 im in 3011 ;)

vestal jasper
#

sorry you're irrelevant by a year :^)

wicked sphinx
#

Guys do someone know command blocks

limber knotBOT
#

that question just blew my mind

#

someone decypher

#

[wizjany] i hear it's not hard to split the last two brain cells

nova badge
#

I know code blocks, not command blocks.

void void
#

that wasnt even the worst question i've ever heard asked

limber knotBOT
#

[wizjany] leaf is an expert on the subject matte

#

[wizjany] r

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im not around much simple lol

#

i like to give wiz space

wicked sphinx
#

Can you make with command block so player burn on sun like mobs

limber knotBOT
#

omfg i love Shvabra

#

<3

wicked sphinx
#

I need my command block thing smh

#

And i wonder if thats even possible

golden gust
#

This ain't really a community which is crazy with command blocks

void void
#

idk, command blocks sux

#

code 5ever

#

kthx

wicked sphinx
#

Bruhhhh

#

Where can i get someone who know command blocks

#

@willow basin idk sounds hard im not a coder or smth

#

To make plugins

void void
#

give me $20 ill make it for you

golden gust
#

Command blocks aren't great for performance anyways, nor am I convinced that there would be a way to check if a player is actually in the sun with a command block

void void
#

ye

golden gust
#

You'd more be looking towards communities which are crazy about vanilla mechanics

wicked sphinx
#

I mean game have function to check sunlight right

golden gust
#

Nope

void void
#

its not all the time m8

wicked sphinx
#

How mobs burn on sunlight

void void
#

its an ez plogin

#

prob wotn take an hour

#

sooo

golden gust
#

Depends how accurate you wanna be lol

void void
#

i need more info about it, but thats why we would first pm and clarify

#

but yeh

limber knotBOT
#

[wizjany] yea if you have plugin template with mc dev intellij plugin that'll take 3 minutes tops

golden gust
#

I ended up ripping up the code for daylight sensors on one my my servers, given that there was no super sane way that I could see otherwise

void void
#

cant u just read the light level

wicked sphinx
#

@void void but its light from anything not just the sun no

void void
#

u mean torches wont make u explode

golden gust
#

I don't even fully remember what I did, Proobably grabbed the current time and the sun light for the block

void void
#

sad

limber knotBOT
#

[wizjany] onEnabled() { Bukkit.getScheduler().scheduleRepeatingTask(() -> { for (Player p : Bukkit.getOnlinePlayer()) if (p.getLocation().getLightLevel() > 11) p.setFireTicks(40); }, 1, 1) }

#

[wizjany] done^

cosmic raft
upper flicker
golden gust
#

Don't think that getLightLevel works like that

void void
#

wiz stop stealing my fucking profits you spoon

cosmic raft
#

;D

limber knotBOT
#

[wizjany] shhh it works exactly like that

cosmic raft
#

my schedule is free

limber knotBOT
#

[wizjany] disclaimer: i don't think i've ever actually used bukkit's scheduler

golden gust
#

getLightLevel just reads the raw value from the servers light map, which doesn't factor in where the sun is, or the weather, iirc

void void
#

kashike asked me to buy post cards in china, and without a single thought I walked my ass over to a forex and got scammed and then bought 100 postcards

#

so

#

true story

cosmic raft
#

i am magical

limber knotBOT
#

lol no rly tho

#

this man actually saved my ass

void void
#

im not kidding either

limber knotBOT
#

big time

void void
#

noice

cosmic raft
#

:3

void void
#

the cat saved me too, i was worried in china and didnt know wat to do and he told me "next time buy bettr tiket frm bettr company"

#

and that fixed all my problems

limber knotBOT
#

basically, i did a bunch of updates on a bunch of linux machines, destroyed everything, got drunk, msged kashike, gave him like 500 bucks or some shit, and said save me

#

woke up the next day to everything working in 100% perfect order

#

good man

#

lmao

void void
#

give me 500 bucks pls

#

i need a plane ticket

#

actually yh if u have work and actually want resume ill send kthx

#

i wanna go back to ph

#

lmao

cosmic raft
#

200, not 500

#

details, andrew

limber knotBOT
#

bro!

#

wasnt it 500

#

oooof

void void
#

inb4 sends another 300 to fix the math

cosmic raft
#

EcoCityCraft sent you $200.00 USD.

golden gust
#

It's all coming out now

void void
#

except intercept and send 2 me

limber knotBOT
#

ooof i swear i thought it was 500

#

shows how hammered i was

cosmic raft
#

;D

safe tide
#

I just found an enum class I barley remember making and now I cant remember why I made it

void void
#

well, that's why you're qball i guess

safe tide
#

what?

limber knotBOT
#

[wizjany] you should send me $200 so i can sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root all your servers andrew

cosmic raft
#

my technique

golden gust
#

lol

hybrid carbon
limber knotBOT
#

lmao

#

very true

cosmic raft
#

winks with both eyes

void void
#

rip

#

poor laptop

limber knotBOT
#

i do this to my laundry machine daily

golden gust
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Percussive Maintenance - length 2m 50s - 7,556 likes, 88 dislikes (98.8%) - 480,562 views - Duncan Robson on 2013.09.22

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ok but real story about ^

#

my car stopped working

#

dude came out of the office, for some reason has a hammer with him

#

i ask him if he knows cars

#

he said "kinda"

#

so he smacks my fucking engine with a hammer

#

and it starts

cosmic raft
#

lmao

void void
#

new waifu 😭

golden gust
#

Also, I'm telling you, the guy in "The longest day" (26s in), looks like my father so much it's kinda scary

safe tide
#

simpleauthority ahhh your starter was dying and giving it a nice smack can sometimes free it up just enough for an emgency start

void void
#

using "root"

#

bad Jordan

#

how old are you

#

😂

#

wat?

safe tide
#

did you get a new starter simpleauthority

void void
#

no

#

and it works fine

#

I am allowed to connect by root as I'm connecting from my local, static lan ip

#

🤔

#

oh i didnt see past that m8

#

i just saw root and went in for the attack

#

respect that waifu

#

:3

safe tide
#

thonk odd then maybe it just got stuck that one time

void void
#

my car does a lot of stupid shit

safe tide
#

my car flipped over on me from a t bone

void void
#

if my car flipped i'd die, i have no roll cage

#

or air bags

#

😄

safe tide
#

I had no roll cage and air bags didnt deploy

void void
#

im not at ALL a car guy though

#

so, pls

safe tide
#

I am car guy and computer guy

void void
#

cool story

safe tide
#

cars r simple

void void
#

im sure, i just never cared enough to take a mechanics class

#

or even bother

#

i usually bike around or walk or use public transpo

safe tide
#

except these new fangled ones with two pulleys for a transmission that change the width of the cones to go faster

cosmic raft
#

i prefer spongie

#

:3

void void
#

yeah, how bout electrics with no transmission

golden gust
#

lol

void void
#

mechanics are getting Anger

safe tide
#

I like computers no manual labor and more money

golden gust
#

I mean, there was some company that I read about a good little while ago that basically seemed intent on removing the whole concept of car ownership, preferring you to basically rent it

void void
#

people: programming must be so easy, there's no manual labor or heavy lifting involved. you just type at a keyboard! hah!

#

me: StalloneFacedSpongeBob

cosmic raft
#

people: programming must be so easy, there's no manual labor or heavy lifting involved. you just type at a keyboard! hah!
me, to code: peepoMad 🗡 java

safe tide
#

@void void not exactly what I meant

golden gust
#

My mate has this health condition, which basically means that she's bedridden quite a bit and was wondering about what she could do, as she'd rather work on stuff vs doing nothing, she asked about programming and was like "how do I get started"

void void
#

lmao

golden gust
#

I'm just there like, eerrrrrhhhmmm... I have no idea?

void void
#

qball, it wasnt directed at you or i'd have tagged you

#

i was going on a tangent based on a similar thought

safe tide
#

wasnt*?

void void
#

yes

#

typo

#

im severely jetlagged

golden gust
#

He's also stupid

#

That doesn't help either

#

void void
#

correct

safe tide
#

.kill electroniccat

limber knotBOT
#

gags and ties electroniccat then throws them off a mountain.

void void
#

pets @golden gust

golden gust
#

purrs

safe tide
#

why you always gotta make it weird

#

I've had so many people ask me how to make plugins and I stupidly try to help them learn a little bit

golden gust
#

Depends for me

#

if you have intents of learning and are actually willing to put in the effort, I don't mind that much

void void
#

petting my cat is weird?

golden gust
#

if they have no intent of learning or listening to what I'm saying or putting effort in, I ain't going to waste my time

void void
#

there is a very VERY fine line where they kinda try to learn and then ask so many questions that it starts enraging me

heady spear
#

There's a dude at my gym moaning way too fucking loud

golden gust
#

And, I'm more than happy to tell them that I ain't going to bother wasting more of my time on them

heady spear
#

It feels like I'm listening to live porn

safe tide
#

@heady spear dont judge

heady spear
#

I will judge

golden gust
#

#JustIkeaLandThings

safe tide
#

rude

cosmic raft
#

I'm just waiting for an IKEA the size of an entire city

heady spear
#

He's not even doing anything

#

He's just moaning in the mirror

safe tide
#

okay now you can judge

golden gust
#

Well, hey

#

Maybe he likes himself

safe tide
#

thats a sexy man

heady spear
#

I too like to moan at the sight of my reflection

#

But only in front of family, not strangers

golden gust
#

Sometimes this community worries me

safe tide
#

why cat

golden gust
#

Well, the whooshing noise I just heard, like, that was weird

safe tide
#

you mean your actual community or this community Im now confused it's late give me a break

heady spear
#

Ur dum

safe tide
#

says the one using the wrong you're

#

May be time for me to get some sleep

#

Wait just a minuet I think I may have remember why I made this enum class just had to stare at it for 10 minuets

heady spear
#

If code does a confuse is probbly baed

safe tide
#

When you wrote the code over 8 months ago and have not had time to work on it you and leave in the middle of something you can forget what you were doing

limber knotBOT
#

qball being a computer guy and helping ppl make plogenz

#

o k

golden gust
#

it's called git and using your IDE to find out what you're even doing with that class

limber knotBOT
#

just tell em wat u did, copypasta code from the forums

safe tide
#

nope this is like a half baked idea I had a while ago maybe in a sleep haze like this

heady spear
#

All of ur ideas r bad

limber knotBOT
#

that I can agree with

safe tide
#

apparently I made that class like 2 years ago

heady spear
#

Ohmg u do old codes

#

R u dinosaur

safe tide
#

not what I was saying but ok

#

alright I finally now 90% what I was going for as to why I have no idea it seems pointless

vestal jasper
#

@static badge

safe tide
#

I found what I was doing and it kinda makes sense to me now

vestal jasper
#

is that a jojo avatar

safe tide
#

Anyway I sleep now

limber knotBOT
#

RoboMWM++

icy jackal
rich slate
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void void
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Is anyone comfortable with nginx

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🤔

limber knotBOT
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IIS for life

void void
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😐

austere ivy
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Hold up there ball

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Qball

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You can’t be using old code round these parts. Remember, if you want to have good code, you have to completely refactor and redesign your entire program every month

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Don’t you know?! Code gets invisible bugs every week that it’s not refactored, and these invisible bugs are.. bad. So just keep refactoring!

void void
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@void void yes nginx ezpz tell this old bard of the web your troubles

whole peak
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TehBrian, u must be new here

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@void void I have a server block with a server_name _; catchall, how can I check if the request come from adminonly.com and it does not concern the /admin location then display a html file that will serve as an error

thorn magnet
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why use the catchall

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Because this server block can get requests from like... 5 different domains

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ah ok

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so if you browse with adminonly.com but not inside the /admin folder then you get the error

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you'll want to test $http_host i believe

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then use a location block

calm sand
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Also, if I allow an ip and then deny all in a server block (not a location block), will it work ?

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Like, only the allowed ips before the deny all; will go through ?

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yeah that should be fine

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what if later in the logic there is another allow and deny all

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for example later :
location = /local {
allow 127.0.0.1;
deny all;
blablablabla
}

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will the IPs I allowed before passing through ?

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it should run linearly afaik

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🤔

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i havent done this wild of shit b4 so GL

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Should I use $host or $http_host tho