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merry talon
merry talon
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👍

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why not use a template for those twig ones?

cosmic raft
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website hasn't been really deployed for a long time

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it's been manual edits

merry talon
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nice

cosmic raft
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still pointing to an OVH server from 2016

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for prod

merry talon
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This is horrifying news

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I've spent a lot of time on devops recently

cosmic raft
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what is horrifying

merry talon
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manual edits in prod

cosmic raft
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well

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new server is IPv6-only, and had issues deploying with that

merry talon
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huh? you're not hosting on that $2 vultr one are you

cosmic raft
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no, i'm not hosting it at all

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it's on a friend's server

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i just have a vps on it

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for korobi

merry talon
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ah

cosmic raft
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yeah

merry talon
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dockerize!

cosmic raft
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haha

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i just hope to god i never have to set korobi up from scratch again

merry talon
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lol

cosmic raft
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is a thing

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back from 2015

merry talon
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that's so 2015

cosmic raft
merry talon
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I found a secret secret: 1d64dce239c4437b7736041db089e1b9

cosmic raft
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that's not used in prod

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vagrant was for a local dev env

merry talon
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yeah I assumed so

cosmic raft
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╭─<kashike@korobi>-<~>-<7:56AM>-◇
╰─➤ uptime
 07:56:04 up 342 days, 22:34,  2 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.06, 0.0
limber knotBOT
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.$db -p

merry talon
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nice

limber knotBOT
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Uptime: 1w1d11h17m20s | Queued: 0 | Processed: 110046 | Q/s: 0.15036893310013116

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.$mem -p

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222174512 bytes (211 MB) / 292552704 bytes (279 MB) up to 7430733824 bytes (7086 MB)

merry talon
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7086M

void void
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don't mind me

limber knotBOT
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vps has 4GB total

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using 1.7 for everything - nginx, php, mongodb, java

merry talon
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so where does that number come from

limber knotBOT
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java's ass

merry talon
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lol

warped spear
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what does warning large chunk detect mean?

merry talon
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i think a large chunk was detected

warped spear
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not helpful

merry talon
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neither were you

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post the log

warped spear
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not a crash or anything the console just keps spitting it out

void void
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probably books

warped spear
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?

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why would books cause this

void void
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players make big chunks by using big books

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in order to duplicate items because minecraft doesn't save big chunks

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someone may be trying to dupe items on your server

warped spear
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ah

stiff yarrow
cosmic raft
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SO BRIGHT

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SO BRIGHT

stiff yarrow
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yeah how do I make it unbright

void void
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SO ARCH

stiff yarrow
cosmic raft
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SO BRIGHT

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SO BRIGHT

limber knotBOT
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SO BRIGHT

void void
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is that the stock cpu frequency?

stiff yarrow
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yeah but turbo mode

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so that's turbo moded almost def

void void
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nice

stiff yarrow
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stock I think is 3.something

void void
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maybe i should make a mediocre plugin and get rich :(

stiff yarrow
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I've had this processor for a while

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its like a entry level processor too peepoJuice

void void
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Recommended Customer Price $359.00 - $370.00

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not really?

cosmic raft
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                   -`                    kashike@keres
                  .o+`                   ------------- 
                 `ooo/                   OS: Arch Linux x86_64 
                `+oooo:                  Kernel: 5.0.9-arch1-1-ARCH 
               `+oooooo:                 Uptime: 9 days, 8 hours, 9 mins 
               -+oooooo+:                Packages: 1009 (pacman) 
             `/:-:++oooo+:               Shell: zsh 5.7.1 
            `/++++/+++++++:              Resolution: 1920x1080, 1920x1080 
           `/++++++++++++++:             WM: i3 
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`           Theme: Adwaita [GTK2/3] 
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`          Icons: Adwaita [GTK2/3] 
        .oossssso-`` `/ossssss+`         Terminal: termite 
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.        Terminal Font: Hack Regular 10 
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.       CPU: Intel i7-6700K (8) @ 4.200GHz 
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-       GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-     Memory: 16184MiB / 32107MiB 
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:
 `++:.                           `-/+/                           
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me

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:3

stiff yarrow
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how to make things sexy kash

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tell me your secrets

cosmic raft
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i use i3 + termite

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not sure what you use

stiff yarrow
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I don't recognize these words

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I use gnome

cosmic raft
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.g i3wm

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://i3wm.org/ -- i3 - improved tiling wm: "i3 is a dynamic tiling window manager with clean, readable and documented code, featuring extended Xinerama support, usage of libxcb instead of xlib..."

cosmic raft
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.g termite terminal

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://www.compuphase.com/software_termite.htm -- Termite: a simple RS232 terminal: "May 25, 2018 ... Termite is an easy to use and easy to configure RS232 terminal. It uses an interface similar to that of "messenger" or "chat"..."

cosmic raft
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wtf

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this

stiff yarrow
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I'm confused by the purpose of this i3

cosmic raft
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it's a tiling window manager, instead of gnome/unity/whatever

stiff yarrow
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show me a screenshot of your desktop kashike

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it looks ugly af in their preview pics

cosmic raft
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sec

merry talon
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wanna see some /r/unixgore?

cosmic raft
merry talon
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GPU is broke

stiff yarrow
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weird my browser doesn't open from discord links Thonk

merry talon
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mine does after literally like 30 seconds

stiff yarrow
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kashike how'd you get your font in discord to look so sexy

merry talon
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so I just copy it

cosmic raft
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i didn't do anything to fonts

merry talon
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it looks the same for me?

warped spear
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ah well now i see why its at 20mbs for what mca file

stiff yarrow
cosmic raft
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it's the same

merry talon
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what's the difference

stiff yarrow
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yours look a bit nicer

merry talon
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also lol those pepe servers

stiff yarrow
cosmic raft
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looks the same to me afaict

merry talon
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same

stiff yarrow
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hm ok

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I need to go enable the nvidia thing

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the kernal flag or w/e

cosmic raft
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"nvidia thing"

tardy arrow
merry talon
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the kernel thing

stiff yarrow
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what the fuck

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GSYNC WORKS IN ARCH

cosmic raft
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arch is magical

merry talon
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it doesn't work in other distros?

stiff yarrow
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well it was bugged for me in ubuntu, but according to google it worked for almost everybody

merry talon
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it's kinda cool that it works with freesync monitors now

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I bought the cheapest 144hz one I could find and it happened to have it

stiff yarrow
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I think its only certain freesync monitors

limber knotBOT
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its also pretty crappy on freesync monitors compared to true gsync

stiff yarrow
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rip glxgears performance still dogshit

limber knotBOT
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imagine gaming on windows ;)

stiff yarrow
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works perfectly

limber knotBOT
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to steer this convo back in that direction :D

spare moat
stiff yarrow
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my performance in windows is at or above the average score for my HW

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but in linux its 🤢

merry talon
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hey, at least you can actually launch most steam games now

stiff yarrow
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?

merry talon
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I forget what that thing valve made is called

limber knotBOT
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wine? :D

merry talon
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nah

limber knotBOT
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isn't their proton shit just wine?

merry talon
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that's it

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I dunno what exactly it does

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but it's a step forward

upper flicker
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It’s a very well done fork of wine + several other libs

limber knotBOT
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"Proton is a tool for use with the Steam client which allows games which are exclusive to Windows to run on the Linux operating system. It uses Wine to facilitate this."

upper flicker
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They upstream most of their work

merry talon
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ah

void void
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basically proton is wine+dxvk+some experimental patches

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in other words the new wine-staging

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:p

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but more reliable

upper flicker
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It’s biggest issue is anticheat systems and other shitty drm game devs publish shit with

merry talon
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those aren't as present in steam games as they are on some other stores

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but yeah

upper flicker
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Luckily, but they’re still around

cosmic raft
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waoh

merry talon
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system76 is cool

void void
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i'm glad that doom2016 got rid of denuvo lol

cosmic raft
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    96× 2 GHz ARM Cores
    3× 40 Gigabit QSFP+, 4× 10 Gigabit SFP+
    Up to 1 TB ECC RAM
    Up to 32 TB Hot Swap Storage
    Dual Redundant Power Supplies
merry talon
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damn I didn't see 40g

void void
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because with denuvo it didn't run on wine at all

merry talon
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and that's in a 1U?

cosmic raft
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apparently

merry talon
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I love the USB 3 ports on the front

upper flicker
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Dimensions match 1U

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Pretty cool

merry talon
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I'd like to see that CPU benchmarked

cosmic raft
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Configuration total $20,313

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to max everything out

upper flicker
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Not 100% that’s the exact same model, should be close though

merry talon
upper flicker
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It seems to be about where you’d expect

cosmic raft
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not terrible

merry talon
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only comes with ubuntu 16.04

limber knotBOT
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are ARM servers worth it yet tho?

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depends on the usecase I guess

merry talon
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It seems to be a bit more pricey than an intel equiv

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and then there's the cost of having all ARM software

gloomy sphinx
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can't wait until cheap vps providers start selling high core count virtual servers but never state they are arm

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4 cores 1gb ram $5!

merry talon
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scaleway already did that

gloomy sphinx
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rip

merry talon
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actually, they were bare metal

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but I mean when you find out none of your software works

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you'll discover it pretty quick

golden gust
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Really boils down to long term costs, how well it's actually going to fit, etc

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arm on the desktop, while only a stone throw away (thanks apple...), would be pretty stupid

merry talon
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apple seems like the only ones who could pull that off

golden gust
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I wanna say that I heard something about a project that they had to keep x86_64 software running, but well 🤷

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But yea, apple have that nice and horrible corner where no matter what people will follow them, and with cpu's in intel land seemingly being as good as they're going to be for the forseeable future

merry talon
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we'll see what AMD can muster up

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apple likes them too

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I could see a good APU being a replacement for their intel + AMD GPU setups

limber knotBOT
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assuming they will get proper developer support

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right now, amd still performs worse than nvidia in many games

merry talon
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you think apple is concerned with that? lol

limber knotBOT
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oh didn't see the context

merry talon
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i also don't think apple would ever go with nvidia, they hate em

limber knotBOT
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well, amd also has the better drivers for unix land, don't they?

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like fully open and shit

merry talon
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yeah that too

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so for unix workstation use AMD is just better

stuck lava
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since when?

merry talon
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since when what?

unborn surge
stuck lava
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since when is AMD not considered garbage

native plume
void void
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Linus Torvalds To Nvidia - "Fuck You" - length 17s - 4,442 likes, 123 dislikes (97.3%) - 358,364 views - Kuttofos on 2012.06.17

cosmic raft
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@stiff yarrow ^

static badge
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well

stiff yarrow
static badge
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3dmark results :>

cosmic raft
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something's fucky with his setup somewhere

unreal quarry
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run lsmod | grep nvidia

stiff yarrow
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nvidia_drm             53248  8
drm_kms_helper        208896  1 nvidia_drm
drm                   499712  11 drm_kms_helper,nvidia_drm
i2c_nvidia_gpu         16384  0
nvidia_uvm            937984  0
nvidia_modeset       1089536  17 nvidia_drm
nvidia              17637376  797 nvidia_uvm,nvidia_modeset
ipmi_msghandler        65536  2 ipmi_devintf,nvidia
[root@nossrpc nossr50]# 
unreal quarry
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yours has more than mine..

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hmm

stiff yarrow
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if you want to remote ssh/remote desktop I don't mind

cosmic raft
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yeah, he has uvm

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i don't

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do you billy?

unreal quarry
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idk what uvm is

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i dont have it tho

cosmic raft
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try disabling that module @stiff yarrow

unreal quarry
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nvidia_drm             49152  9
nvidia_modeset       1089536  19 nvidia_drm
nvidia              17633280  911 nvidia_modeset
drm_kms_helper        204800  1 nvidia_drm
drm                   483328  12 drm_kms_helper,nvidia_drm
ipmi_msghandler        65536  2 ipmi_devintf,nvidia```
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thats what i have

cosmic raft
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$ lsmod | grep nvidia
nvidia_drm             53248  9
nvidia_modeset       1089536  21 nvidia_drm
nvidia              17637376  984 nvidia_modeset
drm_kms_helper        208896  1 nvidia_drm
drm                   499712  12 drm_kms_helper,nvidia_drm
ipmi_msghandler        65536  2 ipmi_devintf,nvidia
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same basically

stiff yarrow
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how do I disable it

cosmic raft
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that MODULES=(..)

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file

stiff yarrow
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which file was that again Thonk

cosmic raft
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/etc/mkinitcpio.conf

stiff yarrow
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k I'll turn it off

cosmic raft
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remove nvidia_uvm

static badge
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inb4 it causes issues

cosmic raft
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and add nvidia_drm, you missed that @stiff yarrow

vestal jasper
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I'll participate too peepoJuice

nvidia_drm             49152  15
nvidia_modeset       1036288  47 nvidia_drm
nvidia              17281024  2371 nvidia_modeset
drm_kms_helper        208896  1 nvidia_drm
drm                   495616  18 drm_kms_helper,nvidia_drm
ipmi_msghandler        65536  2 ipmi_devintf,nvidia
stiff yarrow
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huh?

cosmic raft
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on the MODULES line

stiff yarrow
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oh shit you're right

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is kashike about to earn 250 bucks

cosmic raft
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so remove nvidia_uvm, add nvidia_drm, and reboot

void void
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haha linux desktop users

cosmic raft
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the funny thing is

stiff yarrow
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brb

cosmic raft
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I didn't go through any of those

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it just works

unreal quarry
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i just ran the installer.run thing and was fine

cosmic raft
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103307 frames in 5.0 seconds = 20661.385 FPS
134873 frames in 5.0 seconds = 26974.492 FPS
141137 frames in 5.0 seconds = 28227.359 FPS

stiff yarrow
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same performance

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@unreal quarry what installer.run?

unreal quarry
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the proprietary drivers

stiff yarrow
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I used pacman

unreal quarry
void void
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hey

unreal quarry
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then you got the open source drivers, fool

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dont use those

void void
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do i need dedicated ip and subdomain?

unreal quarry
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lol

cosmic raft
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no he didn't

stiff yarrow
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huh?

void void
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do i need dedicated ip and subdomain?
for minecraft seerver

cosmic raft
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aur has prop. drivers

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lol

unreal quarry
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how? thats a literal legal issue

stiff yarrow
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why would pacman nvidia package give me open source

void void
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do i need dedicated ip and subdomain?
for minecraft seerver

cosmic raft
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it downloads and installs it for you @unreal quarry

vestal jasper
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You don't need to ask 3 times a minute

void void
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why you dont asnwer than

vestal jasper
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Because you're spamming :^)

stiff yarrow
void void
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the comment goes up

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its not spam

stiff yarrow
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this is linux nerd discussion only Kappa

void void
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if you didnt know what is spam i can explain you

cosmic raft
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@stiff yarrow lsmod | grep nvidia

unreal quarry
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well thats interesting. i wish debian would do that. but noooooo, apt only has open source nvidia drivers

vestal jasper
stiff yarrow
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@unreal quarry ubuntu has a closed source driver to download too, from apt-get

void void
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so

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do i need dedicated ip and subdomain?
for minecraft seerver?

cosmic raft
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bye

vestal jasper
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I kinda wanna try out a different DE / window manager

stiff yarrow
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@golden gust @static badge @unreal quarry if any of you feel linux savvy enough to solve this leme know 250 bucks for success

cosmic raft
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@stiff yarrow maybe try a unigine test? maybe glxgears is broken

stiff yarrow
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whats unigine

cosmic raft
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unigine-heaven, unigine-tropics, unigine-sanctuary, unigine-valley

golden gust
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You'll need to trigger that mkinit... whatever command to update the ramdisk image

cosmic raft
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pick one and install

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@golden gust assumed he followed the instructions I gave him before, he did that

stiff yarrow
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@golden gust I did after editing the modules

cosmic raft
golden gust
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oh

static badge
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nossr does this happen on windows? :>

stiff yarrow
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define does this happen on windows

static badge
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do u get shit perf on windows

stiff yarrow
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no

stiff yarrow
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I get normal to above average perf

static badge
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well now :>

stiff yarrow
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I play games on my days off and they run fine

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fine is code for amazing btw

unreal quarry
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@stiff yarrow run nvidia-smi

static badge
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only thing I got then is "lol wipe and re-install and have fun"

cosmic raft
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fresh install, nothing to really wipe

stiff yarrow
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k

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yeah I had this issue in ubuntu too spotted

acoustic pilot
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lol lunix, winders masterrace

static badge
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.g nvidia-smi

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-system-management-interface -- NVIDIA System Management Interface | NVIDIA Developer: "The NVIDIA System Management Interface (nvidia-smi) is a command line utility, based on top of the NVIDIA Management Library (NVML), intended to aid..."

stiff yarrow
static badge
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well you have to continuously run that btw

stiff yarrow
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continuously run what

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be more specific with your feedback

unreal quarry
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nothing looks odd there

static badge
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can u run that and ur benchmark

stiff yarrow
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run the thing that dumps once

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and the benchmark

static badge
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that's why i said you need to continuously run it

cosmic raft
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nvidia-smi isn't continuous

static badge
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yeah ik u fuks

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did u not read what I said REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

cosmic raft
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SPEAK ENGLISH

static badge
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U

livid echo
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niet

stiff yarrow
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I'll let glxgears run for a bit then run it

unreal quarry
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i think he's saying run glxgears, then get a smi dump after a few seconds

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he wants to see the load

static badge
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yes

stiff yarrow
static badge
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9% lul

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why is your gpu fan 0% btw

stiff yarrow
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that's about right I should be getting 10x better results

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because its not hot

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it only kicks on when its hot

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thats how the new gpus are

static badge
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hm

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yeah I forgot

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well can you check cpu usage :>

stiff yarrow
void void
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i'm concerned about how many servers nossr is in that have a pepe icon

unreal quarry
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smi should be 100% load with glxgears running

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something is limiting it

static badge
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99% usage

stiff yarrow
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billy PepeBeer I believe in you

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help me find out whats capping it

unreal quarry
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oh, nvm.. i read your huge ass screenshot as 9%

stiff yarrow
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this is it now

unreal quarry
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yeah, thats normal

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better than 9%

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lol

static badge
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does it show what's using the gpu

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when did it jump to 100% wtf

golden gust
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You don't have vsync or something turned on do you?

cosmic raft
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no

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his script is explicitly doing __GL_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=0 glxgears

stiff yarrow
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if I run nvidia-settings in terminal this output happens ```(nvidia-settings:5811): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: 03:50:55.646: g_object_unref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

unreal quarry
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@stiff yarrow run lspci -v -s $(lspci | grep ' VGA ' | cut -d" " -f 1)

stiff yarrow
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01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation TU106 [GeForce RTX 2070] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
    Subsystem: eVga.com. Corp. TU106 [GeForce RTX 2070]
    Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 133
    Memory at de000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
    Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
    Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
    I/O ports at e000 [size=128]
    [virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
    Capabilities: <access denied>
    Kernel driver in use: nvidia
    Kernel modules: nouveau, nvidia_drm, nvidia

[nossr50@nossrpc ~]$ 
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nouveau PPepoHmmCoffee

cosmic raft
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normal to be there

unreal quarry
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its not in use

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do it again with sudo

stiff yarrow
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01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation TU106 [GeForce RTX 2070] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
    Subsystem: eVga.com. Corp. TU106 [GeForce RTX 2070]
    Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 133
    Memory at de000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
    Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
    Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
    I/O ports at e000 [size=128]
    [virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
    Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
    Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
    Capabilities: [78] Express Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00
    Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
    Capabilities: [250] Latency Tolerance Reporting
    Capabilities: [258] L1 PM Substates
    Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting <?>
    Capabilities: [420] Advanced Error Reporting
    Capabilities: [600] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=024 <?>
    Capabilities: [900] Secondary PCI Express <?>
    Capabilities: [bb0] Resizable BAR <?>
    Kernel driver in use: nvidia
    Kernel modules: nouveau, nvidia_drm, nvidia

[nossr50@nossrpc ~]$ 
static badge
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can you run nvidia-smi pmon, it should show per process usage :>

unreal quarry
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i'm not seeing any difference from mine and yours other than your card is better and has a few extra features

static badge
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according to man at least

cosmic raft
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yup, @unreal quarry, same thing I came to in PMs after quite a while of getting him to run various commands

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it's a wtf situation

limber knotBOT
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hey

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I'm having issues with mobs not despawning in the nether dimension.

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/join #paper-help

stiff yarrow
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I'm tempted to buy a new mobo and see if that changes anything

limber knotBOT
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for support

stiff yarrow
unreal quarry
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what DE are you using?

limber knotBOT
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Sorry!

unreal quarry
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gnome 3?

stiff yarrow
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gnome

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idk if its 3, it probably is

limber knotBOT
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no problem; this is just the social channel :)

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ooh, is that one linked to discord too?

stiff yarrow
#

in ubuntu I installed KDE and ran glxgears again, my fps went up to 4500 but was still shit

limber knotBOT
#

are there more linked channels?

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yes

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I get that.

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#paper-dev, #paper-help, #waterfall, #waterfall-dev

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cool, thank

#

s

stiff yarrow
#

peepoJuice guess I'll just order a mobo

unreal quarry
#

or a psu

static badge
#

probably wont work :>

cosmic raft
#

before you do anything crazy like that

unreal quarry
#

maybe youre not giving it enough power

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idk

stiff yarrow
#

but in windows

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it works

static badge
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yeah that's what I mean

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why would it be a mobo problem if it works on winblows

cosmic raft
stiff yarrow
#

here's my take

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none of you guys did anything crazy to get good opengl perf

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the only thing I can really change is the mobo

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the other videocard had the same issue

static badge
#

ok before u go i got one last thing

cosmic raft
#

maybe, but it's worth posting a forum topic first too

static badge
#

can u run ur benchmark again and post output of nvidia-smi pmon

cosmic raft
#

someone might know the fix to this

stiff yarrow
#

its been running this whole time

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sec

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the output of this rapidly repeats

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heres a snapshot

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glxgears has been running for like 10-20 mins

unreal quarry
#

why is glxgears 0?

static badge
#

0 is the gpu it's on

unreal quarry
#

sm row looks like load to me

stiff yarrow
#

99

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spotted you do this too

obsidian belfry
static badge
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uh I don't have a linux install

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kash you're up

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I have a vm but that's vm

stiff yarrow
#

@unreal quarry was a fluke billy

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the output changes

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spotted not even on linux

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am disappoint

static badge
#

windows works :>

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and I need my overwatch

stiff yarrow
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this explains why you don't like vim

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not even a true autist

static badge
#

literally if ow was on linux I'd use linux

stiff yarrow
#

this is why I dual boot

static badge
#

that's a pain in the ass

stiff yarrow
#

how is that a pain in the ass

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you just restart and pick which OS

static badge
#

yeah :>

golden gust
#

That would mean closing stuff

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I don't do that

static badge
#

and I don't have my mouse accel shit on linux

golden gust
#

$ uptime
12:04 up 12 days, 19:39, 3 users, load averages: 2.61 3.24 3.39

stiff yarrow
#

??

static badge
#

I'd have to write my own driver

stiff yarrow
#

you use mouse accel?

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🤢

static badge
#

yes ma'am

stiff yarrow
#

🤢

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🤢

static badge
#

nossr ur trash

stiff yarrow
#

can you stop telling me facts about yourself spotted

static badge
#

weeb trash

cosmic raft
#

but yeah @stiff yarrow

stiff yarrow
#

I was better off when my spotted lore was low

cosmic raft
#

post on https://bbs.archlinux.org/ - they're much smarter than us when it comes to things like diagnosing weird issues like this
if you can't get it fixed by monday or something order a new mobo?

stiff yarrow
#

the thing about that kashike is, I have to engage in a really slow back and forth posting war on some forum for that

static badge
#

see this is why linux is trash

stiff yarrow
#

I'd rather just throw money at the problem

static badge
#

return ur gpu and get a new one

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`lol doesn't perf'

stiff yarrow
#

it happened with my other gpu you dingus

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I said that earlier

cosmic raft
#

and if it's a simple fix? that's a lot of money 👋

static badge
unreal quarry
#

wait, this is gpu #2 thats doing this?

stiff yarrow
#

buying a new mobo is less than the amount I was going to give you if you fixed it kashike

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@unreal quarry both gpus did this

golden gust
#

What motherboard do you have?

stiff yarrow
#

sec

static badge
#

and if the motherboard doesn't work? :>

golden gust
#

Well

stiff yarrow
#

then I buy a new gpu and give this one to someone

golden gust
#

I guess he'd have a shinier mobo

stiff yarrow
#

and the next gpu will be AMD

golden gust
#

RGB?!

static badge
#

mfw amd

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if you wanted an amd product

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.g furnace for sale

limber knotBOT
cosmic raft
#

MS-7B61 mobo afik

normal echo
#

Ryzen runs pretty cool SweatyPepe

stiff yarrow
#

this is the one I have

static badge
#

yeah ik it's just great to make fun of amd's old stuff

normal echo
#

I don't actually need heating at home though, my FX8150 does a perfect job 😎

static badge
#

there we go :>

cosmic raft
#

gives @stiff yarrow an ASUS mobo

unreal quarry
#

that doesnt even look like a mobo

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wheres the circuitry?!

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i feel so old

stiff yarrow
#

I know they make mobos look like trash now

stiff yarrow
#

what brand for my new mobo Thonk

cosmic raft
#

ASUS! ;D

unreal quarry
#

i have an asus z97a

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you dont want that, though.. its old now

cosmic raft
#

ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING here

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old too

lavish lichen
#

asus has mobiles?

limber knotBOT
#

I had always good experience with gigabyte

lavish lichen
#

whait what

stiff yarrow
#

I'm just gonna buy the most overpriced mobo I can find

#

and pray to jesus

cosmic raft
#

🤦

limber knotBOT
#

watercooled mobo pls!

lavish lichen
#

OOH

#

nvm

cosmic raft
#

watercooled, fully rgb, gold plated

lavish lichen
#

mobo = motherboard

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im dumb

limber knotBOT
stiff yarrow
#
limber knotBOT
#

dis

lavish lichen
#

@cosmic raft what video card?

cosmic raft
static badge
#

features

lavish lichen
#

better then mine

limber knotBOT
#

kek thats not even expensive

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wtf

lavish lichen
#

i have a GTX 1050TI

stiff yarrow
#

recommend a lga1151 board mini

lavish lichen
#

MSI Nightblade Mi3 <o/

limber knotBOT
#

why is this not 500 bucks

stiff yarrow
#

3 stars

#

gross

cosmic raft
stiff yarrow
#

now why is that one like half the price of the other asus board

#

someone explain that

cosmic raft
#

$price = $random.nextInt(500) + 13

lavish lichen
#

i had a asus before but im happy that i switched to MSI

cosmic raft
#

or something

lavish lichen
#

;p

stiff yarrow
#

pretty much

cosmic raft
lavish lichen
#

USB 3.1

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u wot

stiff yarrow
#

whats the difference

cosmic raft
#

second link has more reviews

limber knotBOT
stiff yarrow
#

ah

limber knotBOT
#

thats mine

stiff yarrow
#

wow mini

cosmic raft
#

that font

stiff yarrow
#

flexing on us

limber knotBOT
#

but not nearly as expensive as its on amazon rn, lol

lavish lichen
#

wtf

stiff yarrow
#

now why is that 300 bucks

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I don't get it

lavish lichen
#

i can get a Core i 9 for 500$

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👀

unreal quarry
#

i had a gigabyte once. it screwd up one of my rams sticks within 2 weeks. had to replace the mobo and the ram

#

will never buy gigabyte again

cosmic raft
#

okay wtf

stiff yarrow
#

anecdotal evidence PogU

cosmic raft
#

I paid $199.99

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why is it so much now

stiff yarrow
#

wtf lol

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maybe its really good at bitmining

red halo
#

its for GAMING

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thats why

stiff yarrow
#

3 stars

unreal quarry
#

all mobos are going up in price lately

cosmic raft
#

yeah but

unreal quarry
#

mine was 150. now its close to 300

cosmic raft
#

$199.99 to $559.99

limber knotBOT
#

this is mine

#

paid 150

#

now 200

#

ok

cosmic raft
#

50 raise is reasonable

stiff yarrow
#

should I buy a case too Thonk

cosmic raft
#

360 raise on mine isn't reasonable

limber knotBOT
#

ok

cosmic raft
#

lol ram

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for $239.99 even

#

but it was $4xx a few months ago

limber knotBOT
#

I though ram was sane again

cosmic raft
#

woah

#

my gpu is way more expensive now

#

$780.00 now

lavish lichen
#

599?!

#

jesus

limber knotBOT
#

thats cad, right?

cosmic raft
#

yes

#

full order back in 2016

stiff yarrow
#

holy fuck

#

kashike you a rich boi

limber knotBOT
#

heh, we got a really comparable setup

cosmic raft
#

that was after almost a year of saving everything from everyone :P

unreal quarry
#

thats about on par for a normal pc, imho

lavish lichen
#

why would u have a GPU that has RGB colors

unreal quarry
#

its how much i paid for mine. and my wifes. and my 4 kids

cosmic raft
#

cheaper than pre-built stuff of the same components too

limber knotBOT
#

I have a 6700k with 4x8gb ram (but only 2133mhz) and a 1080, but custom watercooled, not AIO

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the 1080 is new, originally I had my old 970 in there

lavish lichen
#

i keep it on a MSI Nightblade MI3 7RB-006EU

cosmic raft
#

now, see, I left room to expand to 64GB RAM

cosmic raft
#

and the 3200 was $239.99, which wasn't a bad price back then

lavish lichen
#

wtf

stiff yarrow
#

this stupid expensive mobo calls to me

limber knotBOT
#

I was jan 2016

lavish lichen
#

64Gig ram

#

why just WHY

unreal quarry
#

because 32 isnt enough

stiff yarrow
#

bro 32 is barely enough

cosmic raft
#

^

limber knotBOT
#

you know, ppl do actual work on their pc

lavish lichen
#

im using 8 gig and i dont even use it all

stiff yarrow
#

sad

limber knotBOT
#

see, you are not like us then

unreal quarry
#

i spill over 32gb all the time

cosmic raft
#

Memory: 13568MiB / 32107MiB

#

current usage

limber knotBOT
#

this laptop here has 16gb used right now :D

stiff yarrow
#

just opening intellij eats 30 GB Kappa

unreal quarry
lavish lichen
#

i never have issues with intelij?

stiff yarrow
#

that's because of swap

#

you are running a horrendously slow intellij

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and you don't even know it

#

blissful ignorance

lavish lichen
#

wdym slow

#

wut

limber knotBOT
#

why would you run idea with 30gb? lol

#

I run it with 2, lol

stiff yarrow
#

MiniDigger: did you not see the Kappa.. oh right IRC

lavish lichen
#

i use 4

limber knotBOT
#

I did see the kappa

#

but wasn't sure, lol

stiff yarrow
#

wow an IRC client that wasn't updated 20 years ago

limber knotBOT
#

its updated like daily :D

stiff yarrow
#

well if I'm buy a mobo I think I should get a case, my case is like 12 years old and the metal is semi warped Thonk

ocean ether
#

I have 2gb ram 😭

finite wave
#

What

stiff yarrow
#

jesus

unreal quarry
finite wave
#

Do you live in 2002

stiff yarrow
#

I'm thinking of getting the box case

#

the thermaltake one

finite wave
#

Might

ocean ether
#

Well in my country you have like 200/300$ to live each month

finite wave
#

Sad

ocean ether
#

That's like 3600$ / year

stiff yarrow
#

do freelance and you'll be rich in your country

#

and poor math

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very poor math

ocean ether
#

3600*

stiff yarrow
#

there we go

ocean ether
#

😂

finite wave
#

I know, i think i get more from the state to get an education here.. well depending on my parents yearly salary

ocean ether
#

I am on phone 😂

cosmic raft
ocean ether
#

I have 3gb ram on it :D

void void
#

HI BEAR

cosmic raft
#

hai prplz

unreal quarry
#

@stiff yarrow you should use your mcmmo/nitro money to just build you a whole new pc form the ground up

#

^_^

cosmic raft
#

@static badge need a new computer case?

static badge
#

no

cosmic raft
#

comes with a free cd

static badge
#

LUL

void void
#

cases are a scam

limber knotBOT
#

Right

#

Just hang it on your wall

void void
#

or floor

odd heron
proud olive
limber knotBOT
#

when 1.14 ready?

vestal jasper
#

Wow I'm retarded

#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

#

:(

tardy lynx
#

what goblin

vestal jasper
#

I spent an hour trying to figure out why audio wasn't working with i3

#

Turns out my headphones weren't plugged in

cedar spade
#

leaf

#

goblin leaf

limber knotBOT
#

deaf*

cedar spade
#

gobleaf

vestal jasper
#

real leaf moment right there

tardy lynx
#

uses £8 i3 for mc server

#

better than £9000 xeon

vestal jasper
#

peepoGIGA I meant i3wm not core i3

tardy lynx
#

unrelated

limber knotBOT
#

I'm too lazy to switch from XFCE

#

It just works

vestal jasper
#

In other news my volume slider genuinely doesn't work

#

I constantly fight with kde to keep my windows under control and I like having everything nicely divided so I'm trying i3 out

limber knotBOT
#

not using windows

vestal jasper
#

I do use windows. To game. peepoJuice

limber knotBOT
#

greentexting in IRC

#

Same, Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC

tardy lynx
#

whatever ubuntu uses

#

gnome i think

static badge
#

what should we do for issue#2000

golden gust
#

Like, can anybody interact with that one?

static badge
#

no

#

I can't interact with any issue apparently

#

nevermind actually

stiff yarrow
#

@vestal jasper try a different display manager

limber knotBOT
#

what do you mean by interact?

stiff yarrow
#

overpriced mobo ordered PogU

golden gust
#

as in, even comment on the issue

limber knotBOT
#

I was able to add a reaction

#

and I was able to comment

#

u bork

golden gust
#

Refresh the page?

static badge
#

huh?

golden gust
limber knotBOT
#

it stayed there

#

i deleted it tho

golden gust
#

oh

static badge
vestal jasper
#

I'm considering a fresh install

#

Instead of randomly slapping i3 onto an existing install and hoping it works

limber knotBOT
#

what do you want to write, i can write it for you :D

golden gust
#

Something, more than likely a plugin, modified the entity tracker improperly pretty much

vestal jasper
#

I can comment on it

static badge
#

you sure you didn't get accidentally banned on the repo

limber knotBOT
#

der

golden gust
#

That specific issue was like that a few days ago, I just thought github was having one of their moments

static badge
#

did you know concrete has a patch to bitch at plugins for doing that you know :>

vestal jasper
#

Oh also idk if this was a paper patch but ty for protecting the player entity from being destroyed

last topaz
void void
wet thunder
bleak helm
void void
#

Can the "useArraysForBlockStates" cause problem in TacoSpigot ?

onyx badge
hot gorge
#

ez

umbral panther
void void
austere ivy
#

@wide hazel maybe there’s a giant pool under him.

#

I hope so lol

quasi valley
#

Maybe there’s a giant trex waiting for him to fall in his mouth

#

Who knows

hollow sage
kind gate
#

Is it normal that when a person enters the server my CPU is used practically 90% in minecraft vanilla?

normal echo
#

is it 1.14?

timid nacelle
kind gate
#

yes

normal echo
#

Probably expected

pulsar wigeon
#

you can hit 90% cpu with 0 players if you're really good

atomic iris
ocean ether
#

yes

fathom agate
limber knotBOT
#

uh, you can set a custom social media preview now for github repositories

static badge
#

oh yeah time to do some meme for concrete

woven otter
#

is it related to z again

static badge
cosmic raft
void void
cloud quiver
pallid pier
static badge
#

z you left concrete lul

void void
native trench
void void
#

always use BufferedReader

static badge
#

what

void void
#

wait do you use Scanner for reading files...

#

i feel like you do...

static badge
#

???

void void
#

for context uh

upper flicker
#

you use a scanner for reading an input stream

void void
#

(((also for reading files)))

upper flicker
#

if that input stream is a file or terminal or

#

whatever

void void
#

amazing

upper flicker
#

Paper doesnt use a scanner for it no

#

that is only going to search our patches anyway, not all the other upstream and vanilla source

void void
#

wait is it not allowed to modify minecraft server source directly either?

upper flicker
#

what

#

its a "mojang passively allows it so long as you dont do anything egregious and respect their work"

void void
#

ah

static badge
#

z you left concrete 😦

#

how r u supposed to get that sick 1.14 announcement

upper flicker
#

Ill be okay

static badge
#

I'll ping u in here so u dont miss it ok

void void
#

what concrete

#

upper flicker
#

dumb meme

#

not relevant

#

🚮

static badge
#

just u wait

void void
#

💹

carmine mirage
#

is paper 1.14 gonna come out soon

#

just a question

fallen oracle
#

runs

jade light
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

carmine mirage
#

?

void void
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

reef cedar
#

Read the announcements

carmine mirage
#

glare what do you mean

#

vina ok

#

oh

kind gate
#

eta

carmine mirage
#

ate

kind gate
#

ato

carmine mirage
#

etos

mighty bobcat
#

yeeta

void void
#

eta

#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

golden gust
#

I will start booting people for spamming the bot needlessly, it's getting tiring

finite wave
#

I saw that

cedar spade
#

Sorry, I just sometimes need to double check what PaperSpigot is called nowadays

limber knotBOT
#

@cedar spade [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

tardy lynx
#

Does sneaking work in 1.14?

finite wave
#

Why does that random idiot keep writing and then deleting?

static badge
#

idk lul

tardy lynx
#

I can't see other players sneaking lol

atomic marten
#

who sneaks in mc

#

they could completly remove the feature and id never notice

austere ivy
#

Jan who?

tardy lynx
#

I can see myself sneak in F5 camera, but not other players

atomic marten
#

are they sneaking?

cedar spade
#

I think Jan is referring to Mono#6132

tardy lynx
#

Yes

atomic marten
#

then the server isnt sending that they are to your client

austere ivy
#

Whose Mono6132

cedar spade
#

It's quite useful for, like, building

atomic marten
#

scaffolding

austere ivy
#

I sneak in Minecraft

#

who doesn't

#

it's also useful for going under slabs too

atomic marten
#

thats just bad design

#

you shouldnt need to sneak

cedar spade
#

For what?

austere ivy
#

Going.. under.. slabs?

atomic marten
#

dont make places so narrow

cedar spade
#

Also, you can't place floating scaffolding, and how are you supposed to build on a ledge without the risk of falling off the ledge if you can't sneak?

atomic marten
#

build up

austere ivy
#

What.

#

I'm glad you aren't on the Mojang design team lol

atomic marten
#

and you can get to a block on the edge without sneaking

wide chasm
#

Yes, but you fall off way easier.

austere ivy
#

,_,

atomic marten
#

maybe, but on multiplayer sneaking isnt always reliable

wide chasm
#

Then they should probably fix that, instead of removing it.

atomic marten
#

you get used to not sneaking and falling off doesnt become a concern after a while

#

i wasn't saying they should remove it, was just saying i wouldnt notice it was gone

quartz vapor
#

has anyone been having issues with VotingPlugin on 1.14? It says it's supported but clearly isn't as it just crashes my server

finite wave
#

That’s prolly just 1.14 tbh

atomic marten
#

Most servers should wait for 1.14.1 before touching anything anyway.

static badge
#

1.14 has some issues tbh

atomic marten
#

Wolf AI can cause extremely severe lag spikes when in combat with a distant mob and Chunk rendering is extremely slow and random in 1.14 are my favorite features

upper flicker
#

dont forget the random crashing if you generate chunks slightly too fast

wide chasm
#

dont forget the random crashing if you generate chunks slightly too fast

atomic marten
#

Villager AI (POI detection) pegs CPU at 100%

#

forgot that one

#

only major bugs are Ladder in village house doesn't reach the floor and Leather horse armor is higher in inventory slot

#

its overall really stable and the most performant version of minecraft yet

tardy lynx
#

I agree

flat lagoon
balmy vigil
quartz vapor
#

would anyone be able to help me with autostart?

#
java -Xms7168M -Xmx7168M -jar server.jar
exit 1``` this is my script but it never auto restarts back up
#

im running linux btw

upper flicker
#

are you running your server as root

quartz vapor
#

yeah

upper flicker
#

yeah forever stop that

#

make a new user, throw this in /opt or in that users /home

#

anyway, ignoring the glaring issue of running a minecraft server as root ( + plugins monkaSHAKE)

static badge
#

mfw giving plugins root access

upper flicker
#

generally the way people do autorestarts in bash scripts is just with loops

quartz vapor
#

ok yeah I've moved it over now to a new user

#

but yeah, as I was saying I have tried everything and it just won't auto start back up

upper flicker
#

idk anything about that plugin

#

like I said, most people use a while loop in their bash script for that

quartz vapor
#

how would I go about that? I'm not sure

upper flicker
#

or theyll have a script talk to the system that manages it

quartz vapor
#

even the /restart command isn't work that is built into it

I've got it pointed to by script

upper flicker
#

the restart command will start a new process

#

but it wont re-attach your shell to it

quartz vapor
#

yeah, but it's not though

#

the server never starts back up

upper flicker
#

I think its a stupid command in general ¯_(ツ)_/¯

trim viper
left yacht
#

I just use multicraft to reboot servers

#

I know it's cancer but it reflects my personality

static badge
#

personally I reboot by typing my entire script in with a hex editor

#

or even better I manually run the server using it

upper flicker
#

anyway a simple loop can just look like

while true;
do
    java -flags -jar jar.jar
done
quartz vapor
#

im self hosted without multicraft etc

void void
#

i tried hosting spigot 1.14 but we rolled back to 1.13.2 performance is not good enough yet imho

left yacht
#

personally I just reboot the whole dedicated server to stop my minecraft servers.

#

the /stop command scares me

wheat quarry
void void
#

i use stop although it sometimes takes long

#

still bettter to use it because it saves eveyrthing

limber knotBOT
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I never restart, I simply hotswap plugin and server classes as they are updated

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runs

tardy lynx
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what's so bad with /reload?

golden gust
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Plugins are generally not written to deal with reload well

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e.g. craftbukkit will leak precious metadata

pulsar wigeon
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"metadata", like the whole classloader?

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oof

tardy lynx
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How does plugin loading even work?

limber knotBOT
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it loads the classes from the jar into the classloader and then created a new instance of the main plugin class and calls the onLoad and onEnable methods

tardy lynx
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How do the rest of the classes in the plugin load?

limber knotBOT
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it depends on what you mean by "load", they are all made available at the same time but without you doing anything with them from your main class no instances will be created

pulsar wigeon
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^essentially, how all classloading works in java

tardy lynx
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Okay, thanks

atomic marten
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just use systemd for autostart ‘-'

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@upper flicker why wouldn’t you just suggest systemd services

upper flicker
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why would I

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guy is running as root has no idea what he's doing

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throwing systemd on top is just asking for trouble

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if someone has a guide somewhere thats one thing

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but Im not gonna walk em through it

atomic marten
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im pretty sure there is one

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on the wiki

upper flicker
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feel free to recommend whatever then

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I dont need to be chided about it

atomic marten
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im not chiding you was just wondering if there was a reason you prefered a bash script

upper flicker
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I dont

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for my stuff I use systemd services

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but I dont have the time to walk people through a how to on linux, and most people arent interested

atomic marten
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think valid point

upper flicker
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wasnt so long ago the whole init system was based on bash scripts anyway

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throw that back in and watch the tears peepoJuice

atomic marten
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some of my systemd tasks just execute a bash script

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im a horrible person

upper flicker
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I mean its not inherently bad

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now if youre using bash scripts to throw your own init system on top

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that'd be bad

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but I use simple ones around for simple variable substitution and etc