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tropic flame
quick pasture
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oof

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im going on holiday to italy this summer...

limber knotBOT
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master ofc

tropic flame
golden gust
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That's for 1.13.2

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There is a branch which contains what I've managed to get through thus far

scarlet spear
limber knotBOT
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git tag

elder tusk
limber knotBOT
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electroniccat when can I find that?

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ver/1.14-pre5

tropic flame
quick pasture
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put them inside their own prison

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then rename it kindergarten

limber knotBOT
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electroniccat, found it. remotes/origin/ver/1.14-pre5

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does this even sort of work?

upper flicker
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no

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it isnt done

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wont even compile

tropic flame
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) xkcd: Qwertial Aphasia (1 July 2009)

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./paper jar ... lets see =)

finite wave
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Tits

zenith pumice
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) 1 Hour of Fork scratching plate - length 1h - N/A, N/A, (N/A) - 2,747 views - Your Questions Answered on 2017.08.24

cosmic raft
upper flicker
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doesnt hold a candle to the sanic theme

cosmic raft
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ah yes, sanic

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lmao

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) What highly illegal thing took place at your high school? : AskReddit - 23,966 comments, 49,501 points - Tigasar, 6d ago NSFW

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was this intentional? ./scripts/remap.sh: line 75: mvn: command not found

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Failed to build Paper

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  • (HEAD detached at origin/ver/1.14-pre5)
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... sigh Ill take a look

hollow prawn
upper flicker
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you dont have maven installed or on $PATH

scarlet spear
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why are people bots here lol

limber knotBOT
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yup was a path thing ofc

pulsar wigeon
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stop discriminating against bots

tropic flame
potent warren
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Leotomas, it's from the IRC bridge. Blame @upper flicker

upper flicker
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no blame @potent warren

potent warren
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yes blame

limber knotBOT
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blame NickG365

tropic flame
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change.com petition to rename IRC to ARC (Ancient Relay Communication)

limber knotBOT
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s/ncient/wesome/

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Correction, <DiscordBot> <12L​og​ic​s4​> change.com petition to rename IRC to ARC (Awesome Relay Communication)

tropic flame
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change.com petition to rename IRC to PRC (Pre-historic Relay Communication)

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good luck on that one

potent warren
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if only we could do it to IRC people.

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@upper flicker fix your bridge

golden gust
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what?

upper flicker
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I mean I could add that to the regex filter

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I just dont want to

golden gust
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oh

potent warren
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Just add it

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What are you afraid of? @upper flicker

golden gust
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CafeBabe and discord don't play together well anyways as cafebabe rips the color codes

upper flicker
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cthulu not accepting me as a true believer and dooming me to an eternity of tier one support

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other than that, not much

potent warren
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then add it to the filter

upper flicker
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nou

potent warren
upper flicker
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no ssh keys at work

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well, not the right ones

potent warren
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Just edit it on GitHub

upper flicker
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wat

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thats in the config not hardcoded in the source

potent warren
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don't you have the regex filter on the bridge's code?

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oh

tropic flame
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mfw setting slowmode to 2h and then disabling it will still force users to wait 2 hours

upper flicker
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and even if it was, its not like the server constantly grabs new builds from GH

tropic flame
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what the fuck is this shit

potent warren
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@upper flicker So, when do you want me to remind you? 😃

upper flicker
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1yr

potent warren
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sorry

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can't go that far.

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When do you get out of work?

upper flicker
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Long.MAX_VALUE

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BigInteger.MAX_VALUE

potent warren
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Reminder added.

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@upper flicker what time is it?

olive garden
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that's a good joke

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BigInteger.MAX_VALUE

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I like it

potent warren
upper flicker
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19:15 UTC

potent warren
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@upper flicker And local time? 😛

olive garden
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😉

tropic flame
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mfw I have to give everyone Manage Messages permission, set slowmode to 5 seconds, remove permission and turn off slowmode in my server so users can talk again

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what the hell

upper flicker
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set it to 10hrs

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leave it

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bliss

tropic flame
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no, the issue is

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sets slowmode to 2h
users send messages, have to wait 2 hours
disables slowmode
users still have to wait 2 hours

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why

upper flicker
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idk

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tweet @ discord

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thats probably the only way to get any real time feedback

elder tusk
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its a minor issue that they probably wont fix logics

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actually i can check if its in their bug tracker but yeah i doubt they'll fix it anytime soon lol

upper flicker
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@static badge with the stolen discord nitro

static badge
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stolen? :>

austere violet
upper flicker
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C:\>

static badge
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tbh I do have nitro until august

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never bought a single month of it either

stiff yarrow
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I wonder how that happened

void void
elder tusk
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@tropic flame https://trello.com/c/SSVRfJwi

Trello
Countdown counties after off/on

Reported by DowDaw#0008

Steps to reproduce:

    1. Go to any channel permission
    1. Set the slow-mode to 30
    1. Get back to the channel, type anything until it starts the countdown
    1. Go back to the channel permissions and turn off slow-mode
    1. Enable the slow...
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P3: Will get fixed eventually, Mid

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will get fixed eventually

stiff yarrow
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I hope its not the mojang definition of eventually

upper flicker
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valve definition

unreal quarry
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If it's the same eventually they put on the Android webhook bug then you're looking at about 2 years

void void
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kek

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ooooof my discord nitro expires tomorrow

ember shell
void void
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and am already living on 3-4 last ramen packs

fallen oracle
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Welcome.

void void
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rip my #1337 tag

limber knotBOT
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openjdk-11-jdk is fine right?

upper flicker
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yes

limber knotBOT
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thx

static badge
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reminds me is ubuntu 18.04 still on 10 for that 11 package

upper flicker
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probably still 10

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because canonical

static badge
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canceronical more likey

limber knotBOT
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Hey so I updated my spigot server from 1.13 -> 1.14 and I'm getting 100% CPU usage

upper flicker
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according to their site it is actually on 11 now

limber knotBOT
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any idea how to fix it?

upper flicker
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but only for amd64 and i386

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the 1.14 builds spigot put out are very very new

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and not recommended for major usage

limber knotBOT
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Damn. Well I backedup my server just in case

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almost sneaks though. Getting a Importing MC Dev

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ERROR!!! Missing NMS BlockData... though. Whats that about?

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hmmm looks like some patches .git/rebase-apply/patch

upper flicker
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yes

tacit fern
lost locust
golden gust
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That's the whole "it's not ready yet" part

upper flicker
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if we were holding it back arbitrarily we wouldnt leave the source laying around

limber knotBOT
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Any reason why 0045-Avoid-hopper-searches and 0046 patches are missing?

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can I just skip them?

golden gust
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Because they don't apply in 1.14 and need reworking for the changes properly

limber knotBOT
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so just skip ?

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Or wiggle something else in?

golden gust
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Just leave it

limber knotBOT
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and that means?

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skip?

golden gust
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That means that the branch is not ready yet and does not compile

stone pier
finite wave
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I was just muted on TPH for telling a guy doing bukkit to laern Java

fair matrix
upper flicker
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wtf is TPH

limber knotBOT
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Every night I kill a fairy and pray that java will die already.

upper flicker
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well thats your problem, youre supposed to use the fairy to grant that wish

limber knotBOT
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Yeah maybe if I use a cheese grater and start with her toes and then work my way up.

woven otter
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

woven otter
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you all need to be fed to goblins

void void
dapper nacelle
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honestly

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is it anywhere near stable yet?

woven otter
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dev build = stable build

upper flicker
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they arent equal

woven otter
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no

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they are

upper flicker
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in this case they explicitly said not to use them

woven otter
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shh

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don't tell anyone

upper flicker
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I have to dad

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Im sorry

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I cant help it

woven otter
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😦

dapper nacelle
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no one is reporting bugs because they're flaming on anyone who is

woven otter
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that's what you have to do when you have that golden crown

upper flicker
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you know what though

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the vast majority of bug reports even on non-release stuff

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is useless garbage

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as much as I want to sit there and say "stop being assholes about it"

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then you get all the release hype and people jumping up and down screaming for release

finite wave
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@upper flicker The Programmers Hangout

upper flicker
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"why it bork"

woven otter
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ohhh no my 1.8 plugin not working on 1.14 plz fix

upper flicker
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its just infuriating

dapper nacelle
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md_5 is rather confident about himself always being right

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from the post I read

upper flicker
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there's that too

void void
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im just here for when the stable 1.14 build releases

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😄

upper flicker
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why a slime block pfp instead of a slime entity

limber knotBOT
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Blaze I just compiled a real POS build with a few skipped patches. Wanna try it?

tardy lynx
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how does the world generate the spawn point?

void void
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did a bot just talk to me?

limber knotBOT
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yes

void void
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0_0

upper flicker
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dont distribute half patched builds

limber knotBOT
upper flicker
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or in the current case, more like quarter patched builds

limber knotBOT
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lol its so fucked up

void void
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im waiting because a server i play on is waiting for a stable release

woven otter
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I heard that nagging project devs about eta helps alot

upper flicker
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more burn out and disinterest in the days leading up to and immediately after a major release than pretty much all the rest of the time

void void
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i play this amplified anarchy server so we are just waiting on you wonderful nerds 😄

tardy lynx
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just let devs develop at their own pace

limber knotBOT
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Jan should port his "Faggot Control" plugin for IRC

woven otter
potent warren
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Blaze, the bots are users on IRC that are currently using Paper's IRC bridge to Discord 😄

void void
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oh

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interesting

woven otter
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no it's actually advanced government AI prototype

potent warren
limber knotBOT
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Is a spigot world even compatible with paper?

woven otter
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This is actually a secret pentagon chat

unreal quarry
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Don't feed the bots knowledge. They go crazy when they learn new things

woven otter
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how many taco emojis are there

tardy lynx
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how does a world generate the spawn position from the seed?

woven otter
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quick maths

upper flicker
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never enough

limber knotBOT
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I identify as a Russian bot...btw

woven otter
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world gen uses perlin noise right?

potent warren
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Are you one of those 10 sexy ladies in my area?

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Or was the ad lying?

tardy lynx
limber knotBOT
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100% TRUE

cedar spade
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The ad never said you'd find them in the Paper Discord

upper flicker
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more like one of those 1000 annoying randoms on the internet you always read about

limber knotBOT
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they all want to eat your dick broh

potent warren
tardy lynx
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trying to figure out NMS is like trying to figure out females

upper flicker
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r/niceguys is on a different website

unreal quarry
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Nms aint that hard..

tardy lynx
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the method names are just single letters most of the time

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the fields too

unreal quarry
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Really?

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I hadn't noticed before

tardy lynx
unreal quarry
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I mean, that's pretty readable.. I thought you actually got to the harder stuff lol

woven otter
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that's just obfuscation

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also you can mappings for that

tropic flame
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woah is that electronic hieroglyph

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looks like it

golden gust
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Yea, it might take a moment to work out what stuff does, but that ones pretty easy to follow once you know what each one is

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vs other areas where you have pretty deep call stacks of obfuscated mess

cosmic raft
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for example

tropic flame
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PaperMCP masterrace

golden gust
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Also, if somebody is bored and hates themselves, feel free to look into if you can see how to get the view distance api back in there

tropic flame
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just has to be finished tho

upper flicker
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never gonna be finished

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dead branch

cosmic raft
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hello

upper flicker
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demon is on valve time

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strikethrough

cosmic raft
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hl3 when

unreal quarry
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wat

cosmic raft
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yes

tropic flame
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on discord, discordians speak discordish

upper flicker
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Billy is now in charge of hl3, bug him for all hl3 news

unreal quarry
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idk what hl3 even is

tropic flame
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half-life 3

unreal quarry
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what is that?

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runs

tropic flame
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cut a life in half 3 times

tardy lynx
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at least bukkit's open source

finite wave
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Doesn't make it better.

tardy lynx
finite wave
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Dogshit. ew.

tardy lynx
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I would post some of my code but I know I'm gonna get bullied

tropic flame
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lmao u finna get boolean'd

frosty plank
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...

tawny sorrel
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I don't understand anything about this type of coding, but I love reading all your talk :)

tardy lynx
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basically normal coding but nothing makes sense

limber knotBOT
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You gotta be shitting me. Native memory allocation (mmap) failed to map 367001600 bytes for committing reserved memory.

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fucking java

tardy lynx
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ok so I think if I generate 3 random numbers using the seed

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

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.eta

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Nice

austere ivy
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Is there an ETA on when 1.14 paper will be out?

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runs

tropic flame
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god, Spigot really became slow as hell

pulsar wigeon
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edgy meme

tropic flame
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I'm even getting the "can't keep up messages!" even though Spigot was supposed to have disabled them /s

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jk but did they add them back recently? because I actually got one in my console

austere ivy
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Mmmmmm.

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I think Paper stopped that. Or maybe.. I think I'm thinking of something completely unrelated. Something to do with mob ticks or something.

tropic flame
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Reloading ResourceManager: Default, bukkit takes more than 3 minutes with Spigot l o l

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(during startup)

viscid swan
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yo my server runs like some ASS after I updated to 1.14 vanilla

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like damn

deep shoal
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when an entity respawns
is a new Entity instance created

finite wave
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Yes

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A subclass of it most likely

austere ivy
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Hmm, that's kinda strange.

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So if a player dies and keepInventory is on, would the server create a new Entity instance with the previous inventory of the player?

pulsar wigeon
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what the fuck

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what entity besides players respawns?

austere ivy
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I have no idea what I'm talking about afk

stable valve
pulsar wigeon
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is this new?

austere ivy
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am back, Wiz, no.

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afaik there's nothing else that when dies, comes back and has the same stuff.

upper flicker
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I mean, it could do that but I doubt it

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it probably just doesnt ever die in the first place

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so there's no respawn

finite wave
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Well its alive status gets inverted

austere ivy
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Jan

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what is that supposed to mean

finite wave
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But i just think it never releases the reference to the gc and when you respawn you’re just set to alive

upper flicker
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yeah the entity is probably never removed

austere ivy
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That's what I thought happened

woven otter
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it's just magic

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stop questioning the work of god

austere ivy
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Were you one of the ones who got Nitro?

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I'LL GET YOU

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MARK MY WORDS

void void
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what

austere ivy
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It's about Nitro, don't worry about it.

brave river
austere ivy
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hiya, V4nd1l1z3r

void void
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Hi!

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Is someone here that know why animations from my server have visual bugs?

crystal compass
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ooof the 1.14 build is buggy

young axle
unreal quarry
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Billy's fun fact of the day: I finished work early, so I wasted the last hour sitting in the restroom pretending to take a dump, and got paid $30 to do it \o/

woven otter
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imagine getting paid to take a dump

unreal quarry
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I just did ^_^ lol

woven otter
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should've added meme arrow I guess

austere ivy
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@void void what kind of visual bugs?

unreal quarry
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the ones that aren't invisible

void void
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Whit blocks! I have a plugin :BigDoors

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And when I use it i see blocks in all directions

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And ultimate timber have a animation but is same thing!

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Blocks are going in a buggy way down...

tardy lynx
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Where could I get full NMS source?

warped spear
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spigot 1.14 is out now so things should come around soon 😄

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i can't wait to get my server to swamp villager time

limber knotBOT
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1.15?

merry talon
orchid pelican
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Do we have any info on a protocal lib update?

merry talon
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what's wrong with bikeshedding when we wouldnt be doing anything otherwise

limber knotBOT
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ew typescript

austere ivy
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@void void that sounds like a problem with the plugin.. Are there issues without the plugin?

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What's bikeshedding btw

merry talon
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indulge me

pulsar wigeon
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.g bikeshedding

limber knotBOT
merry talon
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if typescript is ew

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What isn't

austere ivy
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Ah, good ol' google.

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I looked it up myself, .g is no help haha

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Bikeshedding is .. nonexistent if it's open source.

pulsar wigeon
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i mean the link gives you a definition and loads of context

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also that's absolutely false

merry talon
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but not in the preview

pulsar wigeon
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bikeshedding is 100% an issue in open source

austere ivy
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I mean it definitely can be a thing if it's open source but when you have random people, those random people will either work on random stuff which you guys call "bikeshedding" or just not work at all.

pulsar wigeon
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in fact, especially in open source

austere ivy
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But if those people wouldn't be doing anything else anyway what's the harm?

merry talon
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bikeshedding between two people who wouldn't be working on the project otherwise is not an issue lol

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especially in the scope of the readme

pulsar wigeon
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every time retard opens a PR for some retarded detail, a project maintainer has to spend their time to review, comment, test, etc, that change

merry talon
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again, markdown

upper flicker
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I mean I wouldve closed that shit too

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

pulsar wigeon
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i'm not talking about your change sweepy, but in general

upper flicker
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argue about stupid shit on someone elses repo

pulsar wigeon
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tbh i didn't even look at your change

austere ivy
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But if it's improvements, why not?

upper flicker
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badges

pulsar wigeon
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i was just responding to tehbrian's retarded comments

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like "if it's improvement"

limber knotBOT
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whew intense conversatons..

merry talon
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It wouldnt have even been an argument if that person didnt for some reason think the default color is blue without looking at my branch

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._.

pulsar wigeon
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what's improvements to you might be a problematic change for them, or break something else

austere ivy
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) it was the best of times it was the blurst of times - length 18s - 4,028 likes, 30 dislikes (99.3%) - 675,094 views - Khaye Ayuban on 2013.05.05

austere ivy
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you gotta million or whatever it is monkeys working on something, it's very true they'll come up with garbage.

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so I do agree with you there.

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however

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"what's improvements to you might be a problematic change for them, or break something else"

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I disagree with you there, because it's a readme

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it's not going to break something else.

pulsar wigeon
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once again, this isn't about sweepy's change

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you made a claim: Bikeshedding is .. nonexistent if it's open source.

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i'm telling you that that's retarded

austere ivy
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Alright, I retract my claim, it's true, project maintainers do have to spend time filtering that stuff out.

upper flicker
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every conversation about bikeshedding turns into bikeshedding about bikeshedding

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its a wonderful law of nature

austere ivy
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lol

merry talon
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I don't think it matters if it's not taking away from something else

upper flicker
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I read that getting closed as "We dont think it needs changing, oh btw this debate is dumb"

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personally

austere ivy
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well they were just saying for a project manager, which I do agree with there.

limber knotBOT
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I just want to be able to play minecraft by spamming spacebar, is that too much to ask?

austere ivy
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I'm supposed to be working on integrating ACF help and conditions anyway, so..

limber knotBOT
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I can spam spacebar to play tera, why not minecraft?

austere ivy
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see you, folks.

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fuzen, what on earth are you talking about.

upper flicker
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mojang doesnt want you spamming spacebar

austere ivy
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ciao adios

upper flicker
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thats why that cancer autojump exists

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on by default to save the lives of spacebars everywhere

merry talon
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I always forget that's a thing and then promptly turn it off

limber knotBOT
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e.e couldn't they have taken any of the autojump mods that already exists

upper flicker
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mojang builds auto jump into their game

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but bunnyhop scripts will get you banned from cs

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life isnt fair

pulsar wigeon
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that comparison though

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lul

upper flicker
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dont ruin the meme

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cs is a way better game

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I know its a bad comparison shhh

pulsar wigeon
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bhopping l4d2 tho, those were the days

upper flicker
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lol

pulsar wigeon
crude ore
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small heads up for anybody who cares - just updated my server to the 1.14 spigot release - works fine overall but breaks Dynmap integration

upper flicker
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if thats all thats broken youre doing very well

pulsar wigeon
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literally no one cares about 1.14

upper flicker
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glances at everyone asking for etas

pulsar wigeon
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everyone is sticking with 1.7.3

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because Z said so

upper flicker
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1.7.3 beta

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I wish

pulsar wigeon
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lul

crude ore
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yeah my Discord SRV plugin seems fine, along with most of my other stuff

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digging through the console output now

upper flicker
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same rules as always, just worse because we're days after a release

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keep an eye on it, backups, etc

crude ore
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yep, got hourlys configured to my nas so I can back this out pretty easily

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just figured folks my appreciate some feedback in here other than ETA checkups

limber knotBOT
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bunnyhopping isnt appreciated in cs?

austere ivy
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Is CoreProtect updated to 1.14?

limber knotBOT
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1.7.2b was my favorite version

austere ivy
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It's not.

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I'm not even considering updating to 1.14 without my beloved coreprotect o-o

tardy lynx
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just use viaversion lol

limber knotBOT
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Is there a better alternative to griefprevention that doesnt freak out about pistons within claims and ruin tps?

tardy lynx
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coreprotect

austere ivy
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I'm using 1.12.2 right now

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was going to update to 1.13 but 1.14 was coming out so soon and I was hoping that 1.14 would have better server performance

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at least than 1.13

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and it doesn't ,_, so I guess I'm sticking with 1.12.2!

tardy lynx
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ikr

limber knotBOT
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i wish i had a color ...

tardy lynx
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i lagged with like 22 people on

austere ivy
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like I feel for my players, I really wish I had those trapdoors for building and a bunch of other cool 1.13.2 stuff but man, the performance is just awful.

ember narwhal
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1.14 is so more optimized than 1.13

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oof

limber knotBOT
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1.14 is better than 1.14

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ive seen it all

ember narwhal
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No one sa-

tardy lynx
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lol spigot performance

ember narwhal
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fuck

austere ivy
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1.14 is better than 1.15

ember narwhal
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But 1.13 was a ram eater

austere ivy
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let's all backport to minetest

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that had the lowest lag

ember narwhal
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So much lag spikes

austere ivy
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many

merry talon
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@pulsar wigeon oh you poor soul

austere ivy
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because I'm so amazing with grammar myself /s

pulsar wigeon
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i mean i haven't touched l4d2 in years

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and i have 8k+ in wow

austere ivy
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Vextium how's your client on 1.13?

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I have 12000 hours in terraria so

merry talon
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yeah i probably have lots of wow time too

austere ivy
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no just kidding no that's too much

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wow I've'nt even been alive for 12000 hours!

pulsar wigeon
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you're less than 1.4 years old?

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explains a lot

static badge
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anything I miss?

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did paper 1.14 finally release

pulsar wigeon
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just tehbrian being retarded

static badge
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concrete is waiting on ur asses

pulsar wigeon
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concete doesn't wait for anyone

upper flicker
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conrete is just waiting on the trash bin

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🚮

pulsar wigeon
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every time we throw it out leaf keeps fishing it back up

upper flicker
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He’s not big on learning from his mistakes

austere ivy
#

who is

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Wizjany - length 27s - 2 likes, 0 dislikes (100.0%) - 141 views - Marethyu on 2011.05.30

austere ivy
pulsar wigeon
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who am i or who is marethyu?

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btw grats on finding the best video on youtube

static badge
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retarded

austere ivy
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nice I'm stealing that

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runs off with the emoji

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can't stop me now

tardy lynx
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literally can't get the spawn coords from a seed

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so just gonna use 0, 0

austere ivy
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that's not how spawn coords work is it?

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wait it is

tardy lynx
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like when the world is first generated

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it somehow uses the seed to generate spawn coords

austere ivy
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yeah that's odd I don't know why it's not just 0, 0

tardy lynx
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somehow generating 3 random numbers from a seed number is very complex to code

woven otter
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gifts

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more gifts

austere ivy
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discord.gift/tehbrian'sgifttoquack

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love you quack ❤

woven otter
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wow

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ty

austere ivy
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no problemo I used 100% of the money I have on it

tribal fulcrum
#

hi

austere ivy
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hello

tardy lynx
austere ivy
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How is your username supposed to be read?

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is it F.B.I. Evan or effbevan

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I'll take F.B.I. Van

tribal fulcrum
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F-B-I evan three

woven otter
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what

austere ivy
#

what

woven otter
#

what

austere ivy
#

I'll take it, fbievan.

limber knotBOT
#

If you need a seed with spawn at 0, 0 and a specific biome I can give you a list

tribal fulcrum
#

,,,

tardy lynx
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nah I'm writing something to find the spawn coords for a seed

limber knotBOT
#

Recently I genereted like 50000 maps and logged these things ..

austere ivy
#

very helpful, stonar96

tribal fulcrum
#

ikr

tardy lynx
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But thanks

strange bane
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You should try working out a server's seed from their generation stonar96.

stiff yarrow
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@unreal quarry

All tests on windows 10

new videocard stats (2070 RTX)

1.12 vanilla - 300~ fps avg
1.13 vanilla - 20~ fps avg
1.13 optifine - 300~ fps avg
1.14 vanilla - 300~ fps avg

other specs
Windows 10
8700k processor
32GB WAM
Minecraft running off NVME SSD and new worlds made for each test

notes:

for some reason Minecraft completely ignores gsync
old video card had similar performance issues fwiw

woven otter
austere ivy
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every time the plugin needs the seed it'll just send a bot to ask you

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LOL

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YEAH

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YOU'RE TESTING WITH A 2070RTX

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20 fps average

woven otter
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mfw 300fps -> 20fps drop

austere ivy
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20 FPS AVERAGE WITH AN 2070 RTX

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nossr do you have the right numbers

stiff yarrow
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yes I just tested it

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1.13 vanilla is absolutely unplayable

tribal fulcrum
#

WHAT

austere ivy
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Sorry nossr50 but some of us don't have 1000$ lying around for a graphics card.

static badge
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me doubt you tested correctly

woven otter
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good lord

austere ivy
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NO KIDDING, NOSSR.

stiff yarrow
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@static badge what would be a correct test? I did the same setup for all tests

austere ivy
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And now imagine me.

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With a 9 year old macbook.

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1.13 is very unplayable

stiff yarrow
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@static badge test was literally this

make brand new world with default settings
hit f3 and spin my camera around while walking around

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did this for all clients

austere ivy
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BRAND NEW WORLD WITH DEFAULT SETTINGS?

static badge
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should've used the same world

austere ivy
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Do it again, superflat.

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Same world.

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That's a biased test.

tribal fulcrum
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get a lenovo ideapad 110 laptop and test it

austere ivy
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And you thought ilmango's test was silly.

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Get a 9 year old macbook pro and test it.

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Feel my pain, Nossr.

stiff yarrow
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@static badge I'll go onto the 1.12 world with my 1.13 vanilla client

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to satisfy you

austere ivy
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No wonder you can't sympathize with me, Nossr.

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You have an RTX 2070.

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AND 32 GIGS OF WAM

stiff yarrow
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brian what are you even talking about

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I don't even remember discussing your pc at any point ever

strange bane
#

Well, now that 1.12 world requires converting and is already generated. 😛

austere ivy
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Use the same seed, nossr.

limber knotBOT
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'-970338894402715987':spawn:x: 0.0y: 64.0z: 0.0biome: FOREST

stiff yarrow
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with 1.13

austere ivy
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And you're running applications.

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Again, more biased than ilmango's.

stiff yarrow
#

brian I have no clue what the fuck you are on about

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literally zero context

tribal fulcrum
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why do you have google chorme open?

austere ivy
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I've been telling everyone for a while that 1.13 had awful, awful performance.

tardy lynx
strange bane
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I always have Google Chrome open.

austere ivy
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No one believed me, they complained that I was using a macbook.

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And with 32 gigs of ram and an RTX 2070, you're getting 20 fps on 1.13

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Thank you for finally making me seem not so crazy.

stiff yarrow
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@static badge FPS in the 1.12 world, I waited a little bit for the chunks to switch over (if thats a thing that happens in Singleplayer)

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static badge
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can you shift f3 real quick

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what's causing that fucking 10x decrease

void void
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Yes I have these issues whitout plugin

tardy lynx
austere ivy
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Nossr, if you want to do a somewhat scientific test, you need to close all other applications.

stiff yarrow
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@static badge I don't know, I just know 1.13 client has always run like dogshit

austere ivy
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Because vanilla is idiotic smetimes, Triatic ,_<

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,_,

static badge
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE shift f3

tardy lynx
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I'm just gonna use that code lol

austere ivy
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good luck lol

static badge
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use the get spawn location in the world

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wtf are you using random for

austere ivy
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LOL

static badge
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are you trying to make your own generator?

stiff yarrow
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is this what you need to see

static badge
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holy shit

austere ivy
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@tardy lynx

static badge
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why is rendering fucking you so hard

austere ivy
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can you not just use this

tardy lynx
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Not using bukkit api

austere ivy
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Oh. What are you using?

stiff yarrow
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@static badge 1.12 vanilla, 1.13 optifine, and 1.14 vanilla all run flawlessly

tardy lynx
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no api

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just java

austere ivy
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NOSSR50, I GOT IT.

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Turn off all particles.

static badge
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must be some lwjgl bug or something

austere ivy
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What does it give you then?

tardy lynx
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long seed in, Position spawnPosition out

vestal jasper
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Why the FUCK does Spectacle have an option to close the program when you copy images when closing the program clears the fucking clipboard?

static badge
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like a 10x diff is pretty fucking weird

stiff yarrow
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@austere ivy fps went up quite a bit but still dogpoop

austere ivy
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yeah.

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Water particles has something to do with it.

tardy lynx
#

intellij > eclipse

austere ivy
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What fps are you getting now?

stiff yarrow
static badge
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also that's a lot of chunks

austere ivy
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65 FPS IS BAD!?

strange bane
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When you need third party software for decent window management @vestal jasper

stiff yarrow
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@austere ivy yes its dogshit

austere ivy
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I'm lucky if I get 65 FPS.

stiff yarrow
#

welcome to the real world brian

austere ivy
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Nossr, want to trade computers for a day?

stiff yarrow
#

we all have 240hz monitors now

austere ivy
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You get to experience the wonders of a 9 year old laptop with a borken screen.

tardy lynx
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125fps on 1.13 optifine with intel hd

static badge
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.wa sqrt(3363)/2 - 1

limber knotBOT
static badge
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you have like a 32 render distance monkaW

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well 28 according to the math

stiff yarrow
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@static badge well the thing Brian wanted me to turn down dramatically increases FPS but I still consider 60 fps to be awful

static badge
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u running 28 render distance on 1.14?

woven otter
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welcome to the real world
65 fps is bad
we all have 240hz monitors

tardy lynx
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2 of mine are 75hz

austere ivy
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More like welcome to the real world

stiff yarrow
austere ivy
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65 fps is good for some people GOOD NESS

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GRAC IOUS

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Only 1080p?

static badge
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the chunks weren't loaded yet :>

stiff yarrow
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yes

austere ivy
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I thought you'd have at least 1440p.

tardy lynx
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240hz 4k

stiff yarrow
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@static badge Okay how do I tell if the chunks are loaded

austere ivy
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Like 1440p is a great middle ground but I think my laptop has more DPI than that.

static badge
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if the chunk cache is equal to (2 * render distance + 1)^2

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in your case with 29

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.wa (2*29 + 1)^2

woven otter
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rip

static badge
limber knotBOT
stiff yarrow
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nani

austere ivy
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800p with 13"

strange bane
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I think you mean PPI @austere ivy

static badge
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3481 chunks monkaW

tropic flame
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Lmao my monitor is 60hz

strange bane
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One of my monitors is 60, the other is 50. 😛

austere ivy
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Yeah, PPI.

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Not DPI.

tropic flame
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Windows lets me change it to 75hz but I see no difference

strange bane
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The one that's 50, was 60 but not anymore.

austere ivy
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My monitor is 60fps.

stiff yarrow
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@static badge so I think the setting brian wanted me to turn down actually did nothing, I turned it back up and the fps is the same

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austere ivy
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You running anything in the background?

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Why'd it just magically go up?

static badge
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this is interesting

stiff yarrow
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@austere ivy of course I am you dingus

austere ivy
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Turn off everything else, use your phone.

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for Discord that is.

static badge
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your cpu is god tier

stiff yarrow
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@static badge I think the chunk cache loading caused the fps boost

static badge
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your gpu is god tier

austere ivy
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Like seriously.

stiff yarrow
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@austere ivy no brian

static badge
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well yeah loading chunks in isn't cheap

austere ivy
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His GPU ALONE is 600$

stiff yarrow
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that's not how computers work

strange bane
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1.13 just doesn't like ray-tracing.

stiff yarrow
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Minecraft is single threaded

pulsar wigeon
austere ivy
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oh

woven otter
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minecraft is poop threaded

austere ivy
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well I have a single core cpu

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welcome to my reality

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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er

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dual core?

static badge
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single core

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wtf do you have

austere ivy
#

still garbage :D

static badge
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ancient as fuck apparently

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fucking pentium 4?

austere ivy
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I meant to say dual core

stiff yarrow
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that 2 core

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and its ancient

static badge
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that's a dual core cpu dumfuck

woven otter
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32bit system?

static badge
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every time pentium 4 comes up it

austere ivy
#

macOS is only 64

woven otter
#

o

static badge
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.g pentium 4 5ghz

limber knotBOT
austere ivy
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my laptop at home is Intel HD Graphics 4000

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and it's a 3210m

tardy lynx
stiff yarrow
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@static badge this video is nostalgic

static badge
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well not for me cuz I was too young for this :>

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good video though

stiff yarrow
pulsar wigeon
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that's an awful lot of pepe servers

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hollyyy

static badge
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interesting

austere ivy
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nossr why do you have like 7 pepe servers

static badge
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I guess in the end 1.14 has better culling

stiff yarrow
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@austere ivy why do you think I'm only in 7

static badge
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I bet the issue is 1.13 is being retarded with chunk rendering

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and optifine fixes it

stiff yarrow
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I just wanted to share because billy thought my issues were due to my gpu dying

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and I just replaced it

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and same issues with 1.13

austere ivy
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Hmm, okay.

static badge
#

the integrated server tick time also went down

austere ivy
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So, I've had some thoughts.

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First off, I need a better computer, because I am dying with this computer, currently.

static badge
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buy a better computer

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sell mcmmo on blackspigot

austere ivy
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Second, I think I'll send this computer off to mine bitcoin.

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Third, nossr50 makes $$$

stiff yarrow
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@austere ivy get good at programming and you can do freelance and build a better pc

austere ivy
#

Where are you making your $$$, nossr?

stiff yarrow
woven otter
#

memecoin

static badge
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you'll literally get $0 for mining on that piece of shit

strange bane
austere ivy
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ah

woven otter
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listen to leaf

strange bane
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That's how you make a better Discord light theme.

stiff yarrow
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brian you are as dumb as a bag of bricks

austere ivy
static badge
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damn dog

austere ivy
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not that then

tardy lynx
stiff yarrow
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yeah and that's nothing

static badge
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that's where the nitro comes from

tardy lynx
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level dat done

austere ivy
#

let's see here

static badge
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nossr should just make two different versions of mcmmo and sell both :>

tardy lynx
#

hmm should probably load the chunks before generating the spawn position

stiff yarrow
strange bane
#

$12K income is all you need to work on mcMMO full time?

austere ivy
#

15x942

tardy lynx
#

damn

austere ivy
#

14,130

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What's your daytime job?

tardy lynx
#

since when?

stiff yarrow
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I don't have one

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austere ivy
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Hol' up

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Your 2000 dollar computer is cutting into a big portion of that 1400$

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14000$

strange bane
#

So it already is full time.

austere ivy
#

Are you living on rice and beans?

stiff yarrow
#

Brian my PC is not new

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I only replaced my gpu

tardy lynx
#

why do you need a $2000 pc for development

woven otter
#

14.3k in 3 months

static badge
#

mfw

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we've literally

austere ivy
#

Nossr50.

stiff yarrow
#

my pc is pretty modest part wise

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not high end

static badge
#

been Jebaited by brian again

austere ivy
#

HAHA

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LOL

tardy lynx
#

mine's like £300 lol

austere ivy
#

Riiight.

stiff yarrow
#

I did not go for the high end cpus or gpus

tardy lynx
#

4670K, 24GB, intel hd

tropic flame
#

Idk how mine's worth, I bought it second hand

static badge
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8700k is not high end

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excuse me? :>

stiff yarrow
#

@static badge only a 300 dollar cpu, I consider that midrange

tardy lynx
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mine was £80 lol

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and that's the most powerful part of my pc

strange bane
#

Alright, Mr. mcMMO you keep telling yourself that

woven otter
#

what about that 240hz monitor feelsThinkingMan

austere ivy
#

RTX2070 is 599$
8700k is 369$
32GB RAM is 205$

stiff yarrow
#

my monitor is only 144hz

tropic flame
#

No-ussr

stiff yarrow
#

and its like 2-3 years old

austere ivy
#

Nossr.

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Since it's older, that means you paid $$$ for 144hz

stiff yarrow
#

@austere ivy you do realize I had a good PC before I sold mcMMO right

austere ivy
#

SECOND, what the HECK are you doing that needs 32gb

stiff yarrow
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developers?

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IntelliJ is a ram whore

austere ivy
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oh, right.

woven otter
#

don't be jelly @austere ivy

static badge
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tbh 32g would be useful

cosmic raft
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I have 32GB and I've maxed it out many times

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I want 64

tardy lynx
#

I have 24 and that's overkill

austere ivy
#

kash

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I have 4

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:>

static badge
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I killed winblows the other day due to ram usage

stiff yarrow
#

Brian you're like 14 and overreacting to a mid range build

tardy lynx
#

never gone above 12 really

upper flicker
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if I were gonna build another PC I'd just max it out

woven otter
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I want 16GB

tardy lynx
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how do you max out 32GB?

tropic flame
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I hace 2 GB atm

austere ivy
#

I'd like 16gb, yeah, that'd be nice.

tropic flame
#

*have

cosmic raft
#

running lots of things

stiff yarrow
#

IntelliJ maxes out 16GB all the time, which is why I got more wam

austere ivy
#

Logics, I feel for you :(

woven otter
#

8GB still decent for me though

austere ivy
#

My main computer has 8gbs.

tardy lynx
#

after switching back from my pi, which has 1GB, I think 24GB is overkill

austere ivy
#

500 GB SSD, 3210m, and uhhh

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intel hd graphics 4000.

tropic flame
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@austere ivy how do you feel for me then can I get those 8 GB pls

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Just kidding

austere ivy
#

Which fun fact, is the only NON-NVIDIA GPU in the top 10 GPUs according to Steam.

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So others feel my pain ;D

tardy lynx
#

120GB SSD, 2x500GB HDD, i5-4670K, 24GB DDR3, intel hd

austere ivy
#

Nice.

woven otter
#

@stiff yarrow do a fps test on ftb relevations modpack

austere ivy
stiff yarrow
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@woven otter why

woven otter
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i'm just curious

strange bane
#

That's a lot of work to get setup, I doubt he'll bother 😛

stiff yarrow
#

my hardware is not even high end

woven otter
tropic flame
#

149GB HDD, Athlon X64 Dual +3800, 2GB DDR-i-dont-know, ATI Radeon Xpress 200

cosmic raft
#

ah yes

tropic flame
#

Make fun of me now

tardy lynx
#

i think any i7 is high end

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maybe even some i5s

cosmic raft
#

the time I was using so many resources my desktop didn't respond until the task was done

stiff yarrow
#

@tardy lynx gen 1 i7 is dogshit

cosmic raft
#

and i took a picture using my phone

austere ivy
cosmic raft
tardy lynx
#

high end for the time

austere ivy
#

Most people have a 1060, which is pretty midrange.

static badge
#

kash

austere ivy
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But 1.21% of people have Intel HD Graphics 4000.

static badge
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you need swap u fuk

austere ivy
#

Which means like.. a million?

strange bane
#

If you spent less on your computer you could get a better phone camera @cosmic raft

austere ivy
#

couple million people?

tardy lynx
cosmic raft
#

this is idle usage

trim stone
stiff yarrow
#

you can spend 1400 on a 2080 TI which for that price you could practically build my whole computer with, so I wouldn't consider my rig high end

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Lag Comparison 1.12/1.13/1.14 - length 13m 48s - 2,707 likes, 17 dislikes (99.4%) - 47,824 views - ilmango on 2019.04.23

austere ivy
static badge
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ADD SWAP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

tropic flame
woven otter
#

i3-8130U, 8GB, Intel UHD 620, m.2 256 GB SSD here feelsPepoMan

austere ivy
#

With my 4gb, I'm running mc, intellij, and discord at the same time

cosmic raft
#

swap

austere ivy
#

it's getting me somewhere :D

cosmic raft
#

lol

tardy lynx
#

30GB swap

static badge
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yes swap

austere ivy
#

oh wait let me check swap

stiff yarrow
#

@austere ivy sounds like absolute hell sir

austere ivy
#

nossr

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my computer freezes every 30 seconds

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please help me

stiff yarrow
#

gross

tardy lynx
#

2GB on SSD then 14GB on each HDD

cosmic raft
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I've had 7 IntelliJ projects, 3 Minecraft clients, a Minecraft server, and various other background things open

austere ivy
#

it's freezing right now, calculator isn't working.

cosmic raft
#

4GB would be way too little

strange bane
#

I don't have the Discord client, I just use the website version. They're basically the same thing.

tropic flame
#

@austere ivy bruh if I run an IDE I can't be playing at the same time :c

austere ivy
#

See, Kash.

#

I want that.

stiff yarrow
#

I tend to have 1-3 intellij projects open at a time

austere ivy
#

I'm actually jealous, like, nice.

tardy lynx
cosmic raft
#

well

woven otter
#

I used to run IJ, MC, local server with 3GB ram, Intel P6200 2.13Ghz

cosmic raft
#

in 2016

austere ivy
#

I'm going to pchardwarepicker and yeah

cosmic raft
austere ivy
#

pchardwarepicker lol

woven otter
#

it was pretty hellish

austere ivy
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I'm going to make a build for 500$ see what I can do.

strange bane
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Oh, I see @cosmic raft you added a stars background.

stiff yarrow
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@static badge interestingly the 1.14 client can spike to 900 fps rarely

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austere ivy
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Kash, how's arch linux?

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How's it feeling like an edgelord hacker 👀

tardy lynx
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I just use plain ubuntu lol

austere ivy
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macos here for very obvious reasons

tardy lynx
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idc about all the distros

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I just want to work on stuff

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and be able to use ssh and sftp easily

woven otter
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are arch users considered elitists of distro community thingy

tardy lynx
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yeah

static badge
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interesting

cosmic raft
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yes @strange bane

static badge
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lfs ftw btw

cosmic raft
strange bane
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I really like that.

woven otter
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are arch users trying to compensate for something
runs

strange bane
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I like how in macOS it blurs the things behind it.

static badge
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arch users are retarded

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for example, take z750

strange bane
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One of the only things I like about macOS. 😛

tropic flame
static badge
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z

atomic marten
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what aer we showing off think

woven otter
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you should've said 2 instead

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that was better

upper flicker
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nop not z

static badge
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think it pinged him

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and that's what the kick was for

austere ivy
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once I build my pc I'm definitely going to use linux,

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perhaps linux mint.

upper flicker
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I dont have any qualms about taking credit when its me

strange bane
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Z uses Arch?

upper flicker
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like that one

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that one was me

austere ivy
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I've been on macOS my entire life, I really honestly hate Windows.

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strange bane
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I thought you were macOS.

austere ivy
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And I don't want to do hackintosh.

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I an macOS.

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am*

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So when i build my own pc I'm definitely going to use Linux, it's much more what I'm used to.

static badge
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then who did kick me originally

tardy lynx
tropic flame
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God

stiff yarrow
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windows is just easy to use and plays games correctly

austere ivy
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Wizards and that awful file system manager and weird terminal commands

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yhikes

static badge
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should just use windows

austere ivy
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Windows is also filled with bloat

static badge
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play overwatch

austere ivy
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"WE NOTICED YOU UNINSTALLED SKYPE AND CANDY CRUSH SAGA"

tardy lynx
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Windows is easier to use but yeah it is more bloated

austere ivy
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"WE'VE REINSTALLED THOSE FOR YOU"

strange bane
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Windows is the best distro.

austere ivy
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"WE'VE ALSO PUT A LOCK ON IT SO YOU DON'T MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN"

woven otter
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i'm curious what leaf uses

limber knotBOT
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alright z u fuking piece of human filth

stiff yarrow
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@austere ivy that doesn't sound like windows sir

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tropic flame
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Zorin OS

tardy lynx
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More useless stuff, less useful stuff

upper flicker
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it sounds exactly like windows

stiff yarrow
cosmic raft
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protip

upper flicker
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paid os automatically downloads and installs adware on first login

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its literally winders

cosmic raft
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$apps = @(
    "Microsoft.BingFinance"
    "Microsoft.BingNews"
    "Microsoft.BingSports"
   #"Microsoft.BingWeather"
    "Microsoft.MicrosoftOfficeHub"
    "Microsoft.MicrosoftStickyNotes"
    "Microsoft.Office.OneNote"
    "Microsoft.Office.Sway"
    "Microsoft.RemoteDesktop"
    "Microsoft.SkypeApp"
   #"Microsoft.WindowsStore"
    "Microsoft.ZuneMusic"
    "Microsoft.ZuneVideo"
)

foreach ($app in $apps) {
    Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers -Name $app | Remove-AppxPackage -AllUsers
    Get-AppXProvisionedPackage -Online | Where-Object DisplayName -EQ $app | Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online
}
tropic flame
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Pro tip, if you ever consider using windows 10 get the pro version, you can disable automatic updates

stiff yarrow
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what the fuck why is candy crush and skype installed on my PC peepoGiga

austere ivy
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Alright, so I can transfer ssd from my old macos laptop to uh.. that..