no u
#general
upper flicker
heady spear
gråt
upper flicker
good
upper flicker
maybe he's just realizing his dreams to become PM are never going to be true
cedar spade
🇳🇴 🇺
finite wave
🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰 THE ONLY TRUE COUNTRY
upper flicker
lol
cedar spade
🇬🇧 or die
finite wave
🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🍆💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦
heady spear
go try to leave the eu or something
vestal jasper
🎼
finite wave
G?
upper flicker
they cant get their shit together well enough to leave
nor are they willing to admit defeat and hold another vote that'd end with them staying
heady spear
Z är en liten snuskig groda och han förtjänar att bli inlåst i en fuktig källare
heady spear
jag gillar inte dig
upper flicker
rude
upper flicker
so rude with his little elvish talk
heady spear
buhuuuu gråt och ropa på mamma
vilket jäma trams
det är ju dagisnivå på dig alltså
upper flicker
maybe these mean something more in the native elvish tongue
cedar spade
don't blame british people
upper flicker
the translations make them sound pretty weak
upper flicker
I do bb ❤
cedar spade
there's no way Jacob Rees-Mogg is a human being
heady spear
we don't really have any good insults lol
we often just use "din mamma" or "din lilla fitta"
cedar spade
he's a super-advanced robot created in an underground lab in the 1800s sent through time to destroy us all
heady spear
literally the best we got
upper flicker
we have a bunch of em
and we can just steal good ones we see elsewhere
because english
its wonderful
heady spear
we are just passive agressive
Men lilla gumman, sådär kan man väl för fan inte hålla på?
Hoppa tillbaks in i det lilla hålet du kom ifrån
static badge
well shit I just OOM'd on windows
vestal jasper
retard
upper flicker
whats a winders
vestal jasper
imagine using windows
heady spear
v stop talking to yourself
static badge
must not have setup my pagefile correctly or some shit
static badge
need more ram honestly :>
merry talon
z what do you think about the AMP URL thing
I cant tell if you RTed because its absurd or what
upper flicker
ye I RT'd it because its trash
merry talon
lol
heady spear
upper flicker
lying about the site Im on is a fundamental shift for the web
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merry talon
yeah
I mean supposedly tls still ensures the proper content or whatever
But Google is serving it?
I dont really know how amp works
native thunder
amp is like google's cdn right?
Where it gives you a boost in rankings but you need to stick to their format
cedar spade
AMP itself is just a really stripped back version of your site
native thunder
And it's supposed to be "for mobile"
cedar spade
the Google AMP cache is what you're thinking of
merry talon
Yes I know what it does
upper flicker
I dont really even have a problem with the tech, up to this URL lying bullshit
I do have a problem with google serving all this shit
cedar spade
AMP itself is fine, it's the Google cache that's shitty
When I used to use the Google app, their cached versions never worked properly
cedar spade
No, Google serves it
It just makes it look like it's coming from whatever source website
merry talon
Right but they're changing the URL now
void void
amp is just dumb
cedar spade
There's no reason for it to exist
void void
its a crappy solution for sites loading too slow
merry talon
Like I said, how can they serve it from your site's domain with their cert
upper flicker
they dont serve it from your domain
void void
i dont know about that part, didnt really read yet
upper flicker
they serve it from google's domain
cedar spade
Google serves it
upper flicker
it just ends up with a fucked up url that tries to pretend to be theres by including the original as a path
merry talon
Ans then chrome rewrites the URL
upper flicker
which is why now they want to rewrite the URL to lie
merry talon
but then what happens if you inspect the cert
vestal jasper
http://howoldisminecraft1710.today/
Where's the version for 1.8.9
upper flicker
lol who knows
cedar spade
"hey your news site has features like share buttons, comments, interactive content?"
"yeah fuck you"
"remove it all or else you get delisted from google search"
"hey also you can only use ads we like"
upper flicker
maybe theyll lie and show you the embed TLS
static badge
.g how is old is minecraft 1.8
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upper flicker
or maybe theyll stay truthful and show you googles
static badge
damn
merry talon
lol
vestal jasper
!
merry talon
I don't hate AMP because it really is fast and removes a lot of bullshit from sites
But this sucks
upper flicker
tbh most of my issues with AMP are google's centralization and then how poorly it integrates with everything else
it fucks up the history, it doesnt always link right to the actual site
merry talon
yeah
upper flicker
its just annoying to deal with
and that stuff could probably be smoothed out
but now you've got google trying to lie about where its coming from
and its just like, nah no thanks
merry talon
Skip the middleman and give sites a boost in ranking that aren't too hostile with their ads and popups
static badge
god this game is retarded
I just jumped from 65 y to 10k y in 1s and it doesn't trigger the move too fast
if I do it in small movement spread over 10k packets
should we fix that
static badge
yeah it does but it's still fucking hilarious
cedar spade
Google's ad blocker shit in Chrome is extra shitty
finite wave
Bungee does that i think
cedar spade
"we'll block ads if we don't like them"
merry talon
Didn't know they had one
finite wave
Use Brave browser
cedar spade
yes, exactly
merry talon
They'll just block other ads lol
void void
someone will fine them for that
cedar spade
They were going to add one at least, I stopped using Chrome so idk
static badge
wait I can use this to teleport in maps sorta since I can then move in x,z direction while in the air
merry talon
I do think we should prevent obvious malicious cheating that pretty much no server would want
merry talon
And not have to rely on plugins for expected functionality
sharp sentinel
I keep getting my MC email changed - I think there’s a flaw in the MC website :/
finite wave
What
static badge
uh oh
sharp sentinel
I’ve set my password and security questions to random 64 character strings each time
And haven’t used them at all between times it’s been reset
As in I’ve been at work each day so I reset it on my phone
cedar spade
It might be an account theft protection measure or something
normal echo
When you say changed, do you get notified that it's been changed? or are you just locked out?
cedar spade
I migrated a somewhat-dodgily-obtained alt and the Mojang account I created got outright deleted
normal echo
When I used to use a Digital Ocean box as a VPN I got locked out regularly and ended up having to prove to support I was the original owner
sharp sentinel
I get an email saying the email was changed - and that I can undo it using the link in the email
It’s a legit Mojang email and goes to the Mojang site
merry talon
how did you get locked out of your own box
normal echo
locked out of Minecraft 😛
merry talon
oh
limber knotBOT
god damn it for some reason adding a list as a config default is overwriting modified values
static badge
hahaha I killed the server by loading chunks
this method is more effective than the 40k move packets one god fucking damn
genning chunks really
limber knotBOT
arghghghslglg
void void
what
limber knotBOT
what indeed
merry talon
@static badge can you gen ones outside a worldborder
static badge
I doubt I can do fuck all about that :>
limber knotBOT
ok well I am confused
merry talon
get fuckt
vestal jasper
?
limber knotBOT
figured out what my config issue was
I have a key for a list but if the list is empty the default values will be readded
well
this sucks
how do I account for an empty list
merry talon
list.length !== 0
upper flicker
!==! != !===
finite wave
Php shit
limber knotBOT
Big ew
finite wave
Idek what lang has that operator
stable oriole
It's been a long time since I've see this https://gyazo.com/2d6d0c65df25c9043e5f8f8673fac53b
finite wave
Length is a method on lists
stable oriole
Java Update
finite wave
Not a field
merry talon
ackshually they're called properties
finite wave
Ifiot
cedar spade
oh shit
tropic flame
I saw you guys were shittalking Chrome so imma just say Firefox masterrace
cedar spade
no u
upper flicker
no u
finite wave
Big dicks
cedar spade
no u
finite wave
Yes me
finite wave
Yes but that is actually useful
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Twitter
upper flicker
oh man
speaking of twitter, their notifications are fucking worthless https://i.imgur.com/RHAQxUd.png
not that I have a problem with nossr, @stiff yarrow is bae
but ffs those arent notifications anyone cares about
void void
yeah
limber knotBOT
so disable them?
limber knotBOT
so why am I not getting them?
limber knotBOT
in my settings, I have "Tweets from people you follow" set to Off
normal echo
Is it because you don't have enough content to fill the feed?
upper flicker
I mean if they must fill everything in the last 18 hours
just 23 hours ago I have likes and follower notifs
so idk what their algorithm is doing
limber knotBOT
I only get "Tweeted after a while" type of notifications
upper flicker
there's an option to "see less often"
but I gave up clicking on it
it doesnt seem to do much
I prefer twitter on tweetbot anyway, until they kill off that and the other apps its all golden I guess
limber knotBOT
I just use Tweetdeck on desktop ¯_(ツ)_/¯
wait, did paper now include a per-player natural-mob-spawning or am I confusing this with the natural mob spawn limit change?
tropic flame
hmm, free Assassins Creed Unity for PC 🤔
if anyone's interested, https://register.ubisoft.com/acu-notredame-giveaway/en-US
stiff yarrow
@upper flicker hey now! I say very important things on my twatter 
unreal quarry
Wife took the car in to get some free "potential recalls" taken care of yesterday. Was promised 4 hours downtime. They actually took 9 hours, and claimed one of the parts had to be ordered, so they didn't finish (mind you, this was an appointment set up month ago).
Today, I told her to take it to the other Kia dealership across town to have them finish up (called it in, they had the part in stock) and to double check the work done yesterday.
Just got word that the first dealership half assed everything (replacing one brake light gasket instead of both, etc), and that they wrote on their report all work was completed, and that they even threw in a free car wash (which they didn't)...
This other dealership says a lot of their business is people like us coming from the first dealership because of poor customer support. :S
upper flicker
if you manage to find a reputable car dealer never let them go
there's one where I grew up like 1000 miles from here
I still remember the address
because the other 99% are complete fucking trash
pulsar wigeon
reputable car dealer sounds like an oxymoron
unreal quarry
Yeah, no kidding. Ill be using this farther away one from now on
deep shoal
why isn't EventExecutor generic
stiff yarrow
you made me check twitter now which I normally ignore, I'm a big name now 
deep shoal
could be ```java
interface EventExecutor<T extends Event> {
public void execute(Listener listener, T event) throws EventException;
}
then I could use java new EventExecutor<PlayerMoveEvent>() { public void execute(Listener listener, PlayerMoveEvent event) throws ... { } }
instead of having to check types each time
stiff yarrow
Stop it tuna
upper flicker
worst part of generics
deep shoal
wait what
deep shoal
so if I made something like EventExecutor
using generics
would that be a bad idea
it seems pretty nice to me
upper flicker
not necessarily a bad idea
finite wave
It wouldn't really work that well though.
upper flicker
it just limits the information available at runtime
deep shoal
why wouldn't it work Jan
finite wave
Type erasure
upper flicker
there are ways to get explicitly declared types
but dynamic stuff is all completely gone
finite wave
What is did was pass an event class to my executors.
deep shoal
this says type erasure is good
finite wave
It certainly is sometimes.
upper flicker
type erasure is good in that it allowed them to maintain compatibility
its annoying as fuck in that much of the information isnt available at runtime
so you end up doing stupid shit like passing explicit class types around along with the generics
which is just redundant
upper flicker
the fact that someone managed to write an intro level paper explaining why java's (admittedly sort of half assed) implementation is actually a good thing
does not mean its a widely held opinion
like all things in programming, its debated pretty frequently
stiff yarrow
upper flicker
and most languages do not make the same choices
stiff yarrow
adding to what Z said, people are really opinionated in programming, not always in a practical way
wide chasm
It's the top voted answer on SO, it has to be correct. /s
pulsar wigeon
therefore everything about it must be pristine 👌
pulsar wigeon
i mean the question is literally asking what are the benefits
upper flicker
kotlin's generics are better in that some type information is usually available if you use it right
pulsar wigeon
so i would expect the answers to be favorable
upper flicker
but they also make a bunch of other changes that a lot of people find annoying in their system
so pick your poison
upper flicker
I meant generics specifically
pulsar wigeon
:P
upper flicker
I tend to write a lot of kotlin as "Java with some features"
some of their choices seem a lot like change for change's sake and thats annoying af
stiff yarrow
pulsar wigeon
works is a relative term
stiff yarrow
@deep shoal the best way to see if your API is good, is to make a project using your own API to see where its lacking
deep shoal
I just did that
it's still tiny though
but that's how I confirmed it works at least
but right now it's tiny-scale
so maybe it still has huge performance problems who knows
stiff yarrow
this is why I recommended becoming more familiar with Java and design patterns, you probably aren't even aware of the pitfalls atm 
cedar spade
over what?
acoustic pilot
Hm, this is something I've never done, but let's say I have an interface that extends another interface, is it possible to call the super interface's method in an overridden default method?
acoustic pilot
oic that works indeed, thanks
or at least no errors, gonna be a while before this is all compileable 😛
cosmic raft
it works fine
finite wave
Heh
cosmic raft
You can't blindly do super.foo() because more than one interface can have the same method, so you need to be explicit with your super target
finite wave
It sucks
acoustic pilot
Yeah makes sense.
coarse urchin
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acoustic pilot
Prepare your butts for "Paper 1.14 when?" spam
cosmic raft
.1.14
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acoustic pilot
oic already prepared
golden gust
.eta
coarse urchin
lmao
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
golden gust
😄
finite wave
Eta
cedar spade
paperspigot 1.14 when
limber knotBOT
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cedar spade
fine then i'll swithc to concete
normal echo
I wonder when TacoSpigot 1.14 will be out 
cedar spade
pineappleonpizzaspigot
coarse urchin
any eta on paperspigot thanks
limber knotBOT
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coarse urchin
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
coarse urchin
:^)
unreal quarry
Wooo! I'm getting a 5 day check this week \o/ first time in many years ^_^
void void
like when saying paperspigot
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void void
unreal quarry
Why didn't you just use the existing event system? o_O
deep shoal
bc people told me not to register and unregister events dynamically on bukkit's main thread
unreal quarry
Why would you need to do that in the first place?
deep shoal
because players can equip kits at any time
cedar spade
um
deep shoal
and I don't know what is meant to happen on certain events
cedar spade
why can't you just register an event once?
deep shoal
because e.g. event handlers can be written by players
unreal quarry
One listener to rule them all.
deep shoal
I register one listener on bukkit yes
unreal quarry
No, you're registering a listener for every kit for every player
That's a lot of listeners
unreal quarry
That's insane
stiff yarrow
Tuna you should go study some fundamentals for OO
It seems like you are just approaching this in a strange alien way
deep shoal
is my code v bad?
stiff yarrow
the design is very bad
deep shoal
yeah I can't think of a better design
finite wave
native thunder
Jesus we're still on this discussion?
unreal quarry
Let me break this down... With your system if a player double jumps it has to look up if that player has a listener registered, then fire it. With bukkits system if a player double jumps it fires an event and the listener just has to look up if the player has a kit. Either way you go there's a lookup. Your system solved nothing except introduce new areas for bugs/failures.
native thunder
I'm getting some deja vu
deep shoal
here's what I want to eventually be supporting
player A joins server
player B designs a kit that says "people wearing this kit take 4x damage from all EntityDamageByEntityEvent"
player A equips player B's kit
player A is now taking 4x damage from all EntityDamageByEntityEvent
player A dekits
player A now has no custom behaviour when EntityDamageByEntityEvent happens
deep shoal
but they told me not to use bukkit's event system
native thunder
Why can't you just have custom nbt on the kits?
deep shoal
when I said my original idea was to
void void
who said you shouldn't use bukkit event system lol
native thunder
Entity damage event reads said nbt then changes damage
deep shoal
dude Tofuus that was just a tiny example
fallen oracle
Lol this dude's name is bus a nut
void void
did you figure that out right now mr glare? 😄
fallen oracle
No lol
unreal quarry
I'm glad you built your own system, for learning purposes @deep shoal. But I highly recommend not using that in production.
You can achieve the same goal with far less work than that
pulsar wigeon
we've gone over this a million times billy
he's just really intent on doing retarded things
unreal quarry
To be fair, we've all done dumb things in the beginning ^_^
deep shoal
this is the aim:
player A joins server
player B designs a kit that says "people wearing this kit take 4x damage from all EntityDamageByEntityEvent"
player A equips player B's kit
player A is now taking 4x damage from all EntityDamageByEntityEvent
player A dekits
player A now has no custom behaviour when EntityDamageByEntityEvent happens
void void
and why do you need a custom event system for this really?
deep shoal
the first idea I came up with was "cool we stick player B's code in some database, and interpret it when player A has EntityDamageByEntityEvent"
unreal quarry
When that event fires, check if the player has the kit.. it's that simple
deep shoal
okay
shell vine
look into hashmaps 8)
deep shoal
so I check if player is wearing kit
void void
you don't need a custom event bus at all if you're operating mostly on main thread (entity* events etc. - they run on game/main thread)
cedar spade
Look into basic OO
void void
yes?
unreal quarry
That's where OOP comes in. You need something like a KitManager that handles the kits. Then you just ask it what kit the player has...
deep shoal
and then I need to call all the methods in that kit which are meant to be called when the player double jumps
void void
yeah?
stiff yarrow
@deep shoal
https://www.amazon.com/Domain-Driven-Design-Tackling-Complexity-Software/dp/0321125215/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1531349711&sr=8-1&keywords=domain+driven+design+eric+evans
https://www.amazon.com/Clean-Architecture-Craftsmans-Software-Structure/dp/0134494164/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1531366453&sr=1-3&keywords=clean+architecture
https://www.amazon.com/Effective-Java-Joshua-Bloch-ebook/dp/B078H61SCH/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=effective+java+8&qid=1555383292&s=books&sr=1-1
https://www.amazon.com/Pragmatic-Programmer-Journeyman-Master-ebook/dp/B003GCTQAE/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=clean+code&qid=1555383342&s=books&sr=1-6
https://www.amazon.com/Clean-Code-Handbook-Software-Craftsmanship-ebook/dp/B001GSTOAM/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=clean+code&qid=1555383342&s=books&sr=1-2
https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Algorithms-Press-Thomas-Cormen-ebook/dp/B007CNRCAO/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=algorithms&qid=1555383382&s=books&sr=1-4
https://booksreddit.com/product/code-the-hidden-language-of-computer-hardware-and-software-7/
deep shoal
but
void void
like why can't you already do that lol
stiff yarrow
Tuna you just don't understand OO yet, and because you don't you're basically trying to run before you can walk
you're going to be learning at a mentally handicapped pace doing it this way
deep shoal
player A joins server
player B designs a kit that says "when I punch someone, that person can't double jump"
player C designs a kit that lets you double jump
player A equips player B's kit
player C equips their double jumping kit
player C double jumps over to player A
player A punches player C
player C can't double jump anymore
golden gust
You care about the kit, not the player itself
golden gust
You can do stuff like storing if the player has equipped the kit and keep that updated, or check if they're wearing the kit each time you need to check (not as ideal, but less messy if you want to have spigot support)
deep shoal
I store that anyway
void void
simply create a map what holds player uuid -> player wrapper class instance...
do your calls if you want player access as well
i see that you kinda need that, your shit is already messy as hell
deep shoal
how it's working atm:
player equips kit
I iterate through the kit's eventhandlers and put the executors in some hashmap (event class → list<executor>)
now, PlayerToggleFlightEvent I check if I care about this player
if I do care, then I call all the DoubleJump handlers in the hashmap
golden gust
Do you intend for players to actually provide code like javascript or something?
deep shoal
yes
pulsar wigeon
allowing players to add arbitrary code to things is only one of the most retarded things he's come up with
golden gust
That sounds pretty dangerous
pulsar wigeon
golden gust
You're basically giving players the ability to write code that affects your entire server
deep shoal
it's not arbitrary
it's very well defined
and exposes only a tiny api that shouldn't be dangerous
and times out and shit
void void
until someone does while(1){}
deep shoal
but I would like to talk about how I should deal with events
yeah "and times out and shit"
but people can't actually
write javascript themselves
cedar spade
It also advertises "hey, you can write arbitrary code, come and break this"
deep shoal
whatever I don't really want to talk about the javascript stuff
golden gust
So, they're not executing code
cedar spade
all of us right now:
stiff yarrow
inb4 players just start primary number crunching to lag the server
golden gust
The issue here is that you're focusing from the wrong side
deep shoal
okay my end end goal is players use website like scratch, with a few blocks
the scripts they made using blocks get sent to the server
the server translates that into javascript FIRST FAILSAFE it's tough af for malicious code to get through this
javascript is stored
javascript is later run on the server with a limited, restricted, safe api
probably it could be attacked
but rn I don't care
I just wanna learn about the events
void void
don't care
stiff yarrow
golden gust
Players don't write code, they write definitions of behavior, your plugin needs to have a way to take those and parse it, that should be handled by the plugin passing information as needed, such as if the event handler for jump is fired, it will look up the kit and interact with it
cedar spade
You've decided what your system is without considering any part of the why or how
cedar spade
Why are you parsing it then converting it to JS, rather than just parsing the behaviour data itself?
deep shoal
because that's tricky
wide chasm
Why would you first transpile those blocks into JS? Why not execute those blocks?
sniped
cedar spade
um
deep shoal
non-java libraries exist for translating the blocks into javascript
cedar spade
How is it more tricky than code generation + writing an API that you expose to a totally different language?
deep shoal
and java libraries exist for interpreting javascript
writing something in java that interprets the blocks seems tricky to me
void void
that's just pure laziness
wide chasm
So you're first going to have a block like language for players, then use a non Java library that converst that, which results in some Java to other language and vice versa code, then use some built-in JS engine to then execute that stuff?
deep shoal
I won't use javascript anymore
I will just interpret the blocks directly
still need to do stuff on certain events
and i keep getting told all my ideas for handling events sucks
cedar spade
deep shoal
so what am I meant to do instead
deep shoal
yeah just "learn OOP"
golden gust
Your issue is that your focusing on kits defining events and not the fact that you as a developer are what defines your event handlers
stiff yarrow
@deep shoal
what you actually need to do is go study
deep shoal
but the kits do define the events what happens when an event fires
golden gust
No, kits define kits which themselves have behaviors attached to them
austere ivy
An important part that I’m working on right now is learning good design patterns which is what they mean by learn OO
golden gust
Your plugin listens to the events and determines if they're wearing the kit, if they are, it needs to then have the behavior dealt with appropriately
deep shoal
it needs to look up in that kit
void void
^ as i mentioned before, this is easily achievable by wrapping players into custom class and looking them up from some map
deep shoal
what the behaviour should be
austere ivy
Because lots of people can write code that works but later when you expand it and it has to be efficient for everything else that uses it too
crystal compass
Do you guys think there is anything plugin-breaking about the 1.14 update?
austere ivy
But what do I know lol
crystal compass
besides nms
austere ivy
Probably not Sam
cedar spade
We don't know
austere ivy
I don’t think so
void void
@crystal compass another Material enum change
cedar spade
Probably not, but Spigot haven't given out any detail
austere ivy
That yeah but other than that..
golden gust
inb4 more legacy enum values
void void
:D
wide chasm
New blocks shouldn't be plugin breaking.
void void
reordering of Material enum*
cedar spade
||NMS is not API||
void void
breaks 5-6 plugins
wide chasm
Also legacy values for the new blocks as well as custom invented numerical ids for those /s
deep shoal
electroniccat said "Your plugin listens to the events and determines if they're wearing the kit, if they are, it needs to then have the behavior dealt with appropriately"
the appropriate way to deal with the behaviour is defined by the kit the player is wearing
deep shoal
I will think about if there's another way to store "behaviour"
crystal compass
depends
wide chasm
I've already done boilerplate code for 1.14, so I should hopefully be able to quickly roll it out.
void void
/fly -> FlyHandler
/god -> GodHandler
xd
^ i actually know one dude who did this ....
cedar spade
ooo another thing to add to the essx rewrite list
cedar spade
split every command into its own plugin
deep shoal
my other thought just now was to have methods like "doubleJump" and call it on the kit when a doubleJump happens, passing in the player who double jumped
void void
modularity ftw @cedar spade
cedar spade
with both bukkit and spogne variants
void void
spogne
wide chasm
I don't mind a separate class for each command tbh
crystal compass
spogen
void void
spang
deep shoal
what about this idea
austere ivy
I follow Aikers method
Everything in one plugin so that you can have maximum efficiency and the packages basically split it up into separate plugins
No rewriting Utils or main classes or boilerplate code
jade light
You can also have util modules you depend on
crystal compass
ecksdee
wide chasm
I sometimes split stuff into their own separate stuff, but only if other people are interested in potentially using some API/framework thing I wrote for my plugin as well.
crystal compass
wtf
void void
ghetto teletubbie?
jade light
s/y/n
crystal compass
asl?
golden gust
Yea, I was looking into using 20 dozen modules for my components to see if I could speed up gradle builds, but for stuff like that it gets complex when you have stuff that needs to access other stuff
austere ivy
Poor Pepe running emoji, so used and abused by you ._.
austere ivy
nossr: says something
nossr 0.5 ms later PEPE RUNNING EMOJI
void void
austere ivy
runs
deep shoal
and when an event happens on the server, loop through all the equipped kits and call the appropriate method
void void
try to get that working however
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cedar spade
It's messy
void void
woa
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cedar spade
It makes it hard to know exactly what's happening where because you could have anywhere from 0 to infinite event listeners active
void void
what kind of AI does that bot have
jade light
It's an IRC bridge
austere ivy
@void void favorite type of pizza?
austere ivy
Mine is hvrrhjkaabhhHhhHyh77754?$&&3’ pizza
void void
what
random kayak
coral kettle
winter slate
limber knotBOT
ping phoenix616
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beep boop I'm a bot
I've become self aware, the solution to peak efficiency is no more humans
native thunder
Hi jeeves. Fetch my coffee
golden gust
Toffee? We love toffee!
cedar spade
did someone say pineapple on pizza?
golden gust
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cedar spade
no u
void void
pineapple fits on only certain pizzas
quasi valley
Iike air pizza
void void
no
cosmic raft
.eta
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finite wave
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
wide chasm
1.14 is scheduled for upcoming Tuesday, so I'd expect Spigot to release Wednesday/Thursday.
wide chasm
Here's your ETA
Spigot has been pretty good with releasing on time and 1.14 wasn't that massive.
Not like 1.13 anyway
cedar spade
eta when
pulsar wigeon
fake af
stiff yarrow
idk guys looks legit
pulsar wigeon
i like how they add the liveleak logo cuz people expect bad shit from there obviously
crimson lodge
Who designed this? https://papermc.io/community
pulsar wigeon
signal wave
Which world generator do you guys use for 1.13? OTG doesn't work with Paper or 1.13 apparently, and that's what I usually went with (also it's $40 so...no?).
cosmic raft
vanilla
pearl ibex
Getting stupid "Cannot resolve symbol 'lombok'" message again. ._.
void void
maven? import changes/click refresh in maven tab
pearl ibex
Gradle. :P
pulsar wigeon
refresh button :^)
cosmic raft
.lombok
limber knotBOT
[03:01:27] <gabizou> fuck you and the lombok horse you rode in on
pearl ibex
triggers
Lombok is love. Lombok is life. :>
I'm still looking for the "refresh dependencies or shit" button. 
strange bane
Me @crimson lodge 😄
pulsar wigeon
void void
delete lombok
pearl ibex
"Cannot resolve symbol 'shadowJar'"...
gloomy warren
invalid build script?
pearl ibex
Whatcha gonna say? "Delete shadowJar"?
pearl ibex
No u.
finite wave
What is your build.gradle noob?
void void
ecksdee
pearl ibex
Gotta paste it on...
finite wave
Okay
pearl ibex
Pastebin. :>
pulsar wigeon
com.conrete
strange bane
wiz, that build didn't seem to work. I copied -> pasted (no schematics) but they're not there. Is this even an acceptable place to talk about it? xD
pulsar wigeon
//copy -e, //paste -e
pulsar wigeon
bug gabizou to finalize the spec so i can push to master :^)
jk don't i'm sure he's neck deep in the sponge tracker frames
strange bane
So it's good right, if I put this on the server with players on it should be fine?
pulsar wigeon
i mean it's probably missing a few things that master has atm, but in general it's stable
also keep in mind that those schematics may be incompatible with anything else if the spec is changed last minute
but in the meantime it'll work
strange bane
...and if I put it on will it start converting my other schematics to v2?
pulsar wigeon
old schematic files are untouched
everything new that you save will be in v2
though uh, v2 is backwards compatible in that it only adds biomes/entities. block data is the same
so if you do //copy without -be, aside from the version number it will be the same as v1
strange bane
Ah, awesome thanks so much again this has saved me a lot of hassle.
void void
If I got a singleton class that needs access to JavaPlugin, what is the easiest way to do so?
since the constructor is private/static.
pulsar wigeon
make singleton instance of plugin :^)
pearl ibex
pulsar wigeon
well, static access to loaded/enabled version at least
technically it's not a singleton
but if someone else is constructing your plugin class and loading it outside the bukkit plugin manager you have worse problems than stale static refs
void void
use DI. make the OOP junkies happy
gloomy sphinx
do these spawn naturally in mc?!?
i broke the carpet and found this
if you go down it shows this
wtf?
villagers?
pulsar wigeon
.g minecraft igloo
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wide shoal
Any recommendations for storage backup servers (1tb+) that aren't Kimsufi and are in $25 range?
golden gust
Why not KS?
For that budget and that amount of storage, it's a bit iffy in terms of what's going to be available
tropic flame
wizjany, igloos were added in 1.10
daring gulch
I had an idea that might help servers that want to migrate from 1.13 to 1.14 when it's out - have a chunk scanner that converts all chunks that were explored, but not modified to 1.14 terrain. Would this be technically possible?
pulsar wigeon
logics4: https://i.imgur.com/hRwYxOq.png ???
tropic flame
... oh
pulsar wigeon
i mean i'm not saying you're wrong, but are you saying the wiki is wrong?
tropic flame
sorry, I was confusing then because in 1.10 they added the polar bears
it would have made more sense
(not that polar bears live in igloos but whatever lmao idk)
tropic flame
oh?
tropic flame
@daring gulch I think that already exists with a commandline argument?
daring gulch
It does?
tropic flame
--forceUpgrade upgrades all the chunks that were generated in 1.12 to 1.13 - although I don't know if it will do anything for 1.13 -> 1.14
native thunder
You're thinking of the 1.13 data conversion
tropic flame
... yeah
pulsar wigeon
i think he means adding new features
native thunder
He's talking about adding structures
pulsar wigeon
not converting legacy data
native thunder
And biomes and shit
tropic flame
oh?
pulsar wigeon
like the new village things and so on
tropic flame
I always read stuff like, it is technically possible but the environment would look broken because the chunks don't have information about other chunks
idk if that is any true tho
pulsar wigeon
chunks do technically store things like inhabited time and last updated
daring gulch
That's understandable, though what has changed in 1.14? Isn't it just villages & one other biome?
pulsar wigeon
but idk if world gen in general changed
native thunder
You also get to deal with player builds
golden gust
Data conversion exists for all previous versions, just now they're using a crazy convertor for it; --forceUpgrade just loads up the whole world and saves it back to the disk after it's been converted
If you wanted actual regeneration, you'd need a tool that would likely check the inhabited timer and remove them, but that's going to leave nasty chunk edges around
cyan tree
coarse urchin
--forceUpgrade is recommended/must use?
wraith oracle
Qué onda? Jaja
golden gust
in slower machines it can have significant gains to pre upgrade the world, otherwise you're basically taking time offline for something your server can do while running
coarse urchin
oh
pulsar wigeon
it's a one-time thing
strange bane
Anyone got a really nice hosted DynMap configuration? I wanted to switch to Overviewer but it doesn't let you turn down the amount of zoom levels rendered and is forcing 20 which plans to result in 450GBs of image files, I can't store all of that but DynMap's render just didn't look good enough.
golden gust
switch up texture packs and stuff?
strange bane
Well I was more interested in changing perspective and I don't know, better texture quality?
golden gust
You can change the perspective in the render config stuff
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wraith oracle
I wonder how much did Pebblehost pay Linus Tech Tips for it to get advertised
woven otter
pulsar wigeon
i mean, it's a paper airplane
void void
What is the best way to implement an ignore list for players? Iterating over current online players to check if they ignore you before broadcasting a message seems expensive?
I can't modify the recepients in the event either.
This is my current idea of solving it: https://pastebin.com/7ri10cix
high lake
deep shoal
is bukkit using reflection every single time that an event is called
stiff yarrow
no
void void
no
deep shoal
when I use @EventHandler on a method it creates a new event handler executor* which does method.invoke(thatListener)
stiff yarrow
reflection is used to map things
deep shoal
isn't method.invoke a reflective call
void void
Paper actually takes it further and generates code at runtime: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/blob/master/Spigot-API-Patches/0022-Use-ASM-for-event-executors.patch
atomic horizon
what happens when the TPS of a Paper server drops to a flat 0?
void void
@atomic horizon if the server doesnt tick for 30 seconds it stops
deep shoal
I thought it was doing something like
registerEvents(Listener listener) {
for each method in methods of listener that have EventHandler annotation {
new EventExecutor() {
public void execute() {
method.invoke(listener);
}
}```isn't this using reflection every itme the eventexecutor gets run
soft raven
atomic horizon
stops or restarts?
void void
stops usually
golden gust
The watchdog will try to restart the server after so long
void void
well depends on your setup
golden gust
if it's not filtered out, yes
deep shoal
what does filtered out mean
golden gust
the isAssignableFrom check
deep shoal
how come it's not using reflection every time then
method.invoke is in java.lang.reflect right
golden gust
In bukkit it does
golden gust
Yes, see the patch that's linked above
deep shoal
is that one of the reasons paper is faster?
golden gust
It's a small gain in a hot call point of the server
void void
i dont think this reflection is as bad as you are making it out to be
golden gust
There are patches which offer much better performance gains in the server, that one probably shaves you a few nanoseconds, especially as that can be optimized by jit too last I knew
deep shoal
was that patch made for performance reasons
or is it also a better way to solve the problem for other reasons
golden gust
It's a performance improvement, just it's not going to be the change between 20TPS and 3
unreal quarry
If you want performance improvement you gotta do something drastic, like generate and load chunks asynchronously ^_^
lapis sequoia
merry talon
doesn't paper do that?
unreal quarry
So does Concrete \o/
merry talon
the hell is that
stiff yarrow
@golden gust that's a bit unusual, I didn't realize bukkit was using reflect for every invoke 
merry talon
the only thing leaf ever tells me about is his aphid problem
which frankly I don't want to hear about
cosmic raft
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cosmic raft
Assassin’s Creed Unity is free if you want it
stiff yarrow
wasn't unity the one that was notoriously shit
cosmic raft
even if a game is shit I still grab it if it's usually paid but free
just so that if I do want to play it, I can
merry talon
I'm having a hell of a time even signing up for this
cosmic raft
yes, it's buggy
stiff yarrow
Yeah
time to ctrl+f word
no word wrap fix
there should also be a list here of all the new bugs introduced by 1.14
merry talon
this makes me so irrationally angry
soft raven
how long did it take for paper to come out after 1.13?
stiff yarrow
@merry talon just use last pass 
merry talon
I use 1password as you can see
that doesn't solve the problem
since I have to manually go in and generate a less secure password than what it suggests me
oh and also their site sucks so it doesn't prompt me to automatically save the login
stiff yarrow
I mean if you make a 16 char password even with those restrictions its pretty secure
merry talon
that's not the point
cosmic raft
I used a 16 char generated password - A-Za-z0-9 and special
merry talon
it's less secure and more annoying for no reason
cosmic raft
ubisoft rated it 'medium'
stiff yarrow
merry talon
Yeah me too
stiff yarrow
anyone know a site that can estimate the brute force on a password with those restrictions
I'm sure its a zillion years
merry talon
who cares, let me use a 1024 character password if I want to
cosmic raft
but it's sites like this that make me glad I use a password manager - only sites that use the same password are old old old sites that I don't care about
merry talon
that's basic good practice
if you want people to use good passwords, don't make it inconvenient for them to do so
cosmic raft
yeah, like those sites that disable pasting passwords in etc
ew, you switched to lastpass?
stiff yarrow
yeah
merry talon
yeah I have a chrome extension called Don't Fuck With Paste
cosmic raft
they're owned by logmein now, and have had many issues (incl. security) in the past
I switched from LastPass to 1Password
cosmic raft
much better service too
stiff yarrow
is one password mo betta?
merry talon
the only thing that bugs me about 1P is that you can't edit things directly from the extension
it takes you to the site
still much better than LP though
cosmic raft
@stiff yarrow https://1password.com/
You know what bugs me about lots of applications on Windows?
They don't include the version number in installers
GoogleChromeStandaloneEnterprise64.msi for example
merry talon
enterprise?
stiff yarrow
this is true
merry talon
well wouldn't that just install the latest version of chrome
I think that's what the normal installer would do anyways
cosmic raft
yes, but not in your AppData directory like the regular download button will
merry talon
ah
cosmic raft
It's a global installation, for all users
merry talon
well then yeah it wouldn't make sense to have the version number would it?
stiff yarrow
doesn't chrome autoupdate like a total jerk anyways
cosmic raft
yes it would - I end up with files with (1) at the end
The version in this case is 73.0.3683.103
merry talon
right but it fetches the latest version when you run it
cosmic raft
yes, I'm talking about installer files
GoogleChromeStandaloneEnterprise_73.0.3683.103_x64_.msi would be nice
merry talon
the installer, I mean
cosmic raft
no, it's the full application
only updates the installed application when there's a new version
the MSI will always install the same version
merry talon
Yea, but when you open chrome after installing that version
it won't like being out of date
cosmic raft
correct, which is why people download newer MSI files, but as I said, if you stick them in the same directory it'll end up with
GoogleChromeStandaloneEnterprise64.msi
GoogleChromeStandaloneEnterprise64 (1).msi
where it could be
GoogleChromeStandaloneEnterprise_73.0.3683.103_x64_.msi
GoogleChromeStandaloneEnterprise_99.9.9999.999_x64_.msi
etc
merry talon
right
but I don't see the point of having an installer for each version when it will get updates when you open it anyway
that should just be part of the installer
cosmic raft
sigh
merry talon
I'm talking about google distributing them, not you