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void void
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damn

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that's complex

orchid pelican
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i cant even untangle the greatness

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must be from stackoverflow

orchid pelican
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actually found it i think

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566 commits 850,275 ++ 131,044 --

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holy shit python much

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Python 100.0%

void void
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nice, i didn't actually know that's how it was done

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thought it was an actual magical picture

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but that's cool

orchid pelican
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ye i think thats the right repo

void void
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parsing radio interferometry and making an image out of the raw data

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pre cool, pre cool

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no cameras were harmed in the making of this picture

orchid pelican
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based on existing algs

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they have been doing this for years with satalight imagry i think

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Andrew Chael\

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should be getting all the credit

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he wrote 850 k lines

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the other chick wrote 2k

void void
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yea i just am not that into astronomy, but that's awesome

orchid pelican
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you fucking joking

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that kinda pisses me off

void void
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i mean, i like it; i just don't study it

orchid pelican
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im tlaking about her getting all the credit

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the dude wrote 850k lines ahvnt heard his name yet

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she wrote 2k and got all the credit

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for "Making the algerithm"

void void
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Okay, well first of all calm down...I don't know if you've ever worked in a corporate setting, but the team lead always gets the credit. The media always credits the leader, as they are the public face of the project. Yes he did A LOT of work and it's awesome, and yes the media should credit him, but she was the team lead.

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A lot of the hate against her is based and grounded in sexism I think.

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(Maybe not this exact case. Just in general.)

orchid pelican
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i just hate how i havnt heard his name

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that is 850k lines

void void
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Understandable...

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But it ain't her fault.

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She's not pandering for the attention.

orchid pelican
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is she the lead?

void void
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The media floats to the team lead.

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Yes

orchid pelican
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its his github repo...

void void
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But she was the manager.

olive garden
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and she might have been the one who actually knew what to do - the others might have just been code monkeys who were able to solve subproblems created by her
of course, that is an unlikely speculation, but we don't know anything

void void
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There is A LOT of assumptions going around.

orchid pelican
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code monkeys couldnt do 800k lines

void void
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I don't think she is out to take the credit

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The media just misrepresents shit

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All day, erry day

orchid pelican
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yes

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i agree

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no malicious intent

olive garden
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I don't really care about all the drama regarding this, in fact I didn't even know there was drama

void void
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I didn't either until just a bit earlier on iFunny, people were arguing about it.

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I just had to close the app and take a walk

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People, sometimes

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They drive me up a wall

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Crazy mob mentality

orchid pelican
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its a little frustrating

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i got an apple developer email that invited only female ceos to wwdc for free

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that enraged me

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end of rant

void void
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I mean...okay

cosmic raft
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lol

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you know matrix, that secure chat platform?

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hacked

void void
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LOL

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Wait is that put there by matrix or by the person who hacked it?

cosmic raft
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the person who hacked

void void
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i kek

cosmic raft
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apparently their CI box had full access to production

void void
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my god

olive garden
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What exactly does this mean though? Password hashes were accessible for the hacker?

vestal jasper
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The site root shows that too

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nice

cosmic raft
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yup

void void
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Fantastic

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well they lied

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yeah, damn

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ETA on 1.14?

olive garden
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lol

orchid pelican
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hopefuly those are 1 way encrupted

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@void void is 1.14 out? no? then stop asking

void void
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it is out :^)

orchid pelican
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no its not

void void
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yah

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it's out

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all but for bugfixes

orchid pelican
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its not out

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and go yell at spigot not paper

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paper is a fork of spigot and can only be developed when spigot released the source code

void void
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they have that but they're not sharing

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"not sharing"

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lmao

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you would likely not be happy with the current state of it

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if you want it so badly, you'd have to do it manually

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actually, I don't see commits on hub yet so prob private to prevent that

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bc people will be dum

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liek coughcough someone in here

native thunder
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Like always, wait until the full release of a version

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Somehow people are still surprised by this

olive garden
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god dammit I forgot how to contribute to paper

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time to spend hours figuring it out again

void void
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sounds like fun to me

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havent been up this late in a long time but i gotta

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mfw only 11:50pm

olive garden
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9am

void void
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i gotta make it to 7am my time, im forcing myself over to philippine time so maaaaaybe if im lucky, the jetlag won't murder me

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but i know it will anyway

olive garden
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oh, I see

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well, good luck :D

void void
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thanks šŸ˜„

cedar spade
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⬆ ⬆ ⬇ ⬅ āž” ⬅ āž” šŸ‡§ šŸ‡¦ ā–¶ļø

void void
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bro wtf its only 12:20am and im tired af

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lmfao

finite wave
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Almost thhe time i’ve been connected

void void
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ghostvpn lmao

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or whatever its called

finite wave
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Yeah

void void
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gross

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airvpn4life

finite wave
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I needed a quick vpn

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I’m bored

void void
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well u can waste time to wake me up if u want

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nevermind ill just go listen to earrape

void void
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I'VE HAD 2 BANG DRINKS

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THATS 4 CUPS OF COFFEE

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WORKING ON MY THIRD

finite wave
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I need to make an 8 paged analysis og 3 texts for 23:59 tonight

void void
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WHERE'S MY INSOMNIA MOTHERFUCKERS

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FALSE ADVERTISING

cosmic raft
void void
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.rekt

limber knotBOT
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ā˜‘ LaxWasRekt

limber knotBOT
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uuuuuh, new instana version is lit

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god I love this tool

feral osprey
limber knotBOT
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prplz: Where is the option to not save player data? I can't seem to find it...

void void
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paper.yml

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disable-... something

cosmic raft
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@void void etc

void void
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good lord

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Kottizen it's in paper.yml, should be called something about player data (ctrl f for data)

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settings.save-player-data

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@void void the patch doesn't avoid loading player data? :|

limber knotBOT
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Thank you! I couldn't find it in the documentation, but it was indeed in paper.yml.

void void
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errr

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wdym it doesn't avoid

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it turns off writing of player files but not reading?

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ah yes

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yep it only disables saving

native thunder
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Lmao they just locked the issues

void void
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yeah they were being shitposted on

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stupid fucks

static badge
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what issue

void void
static badge
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mfw

void void
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what the fuck ahahah

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i was confused, for a while then i saw the "you both like anime" part

stiff yarrow
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I like how they both typo the fuck out of those quotes

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I need to see this animooted

void void
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sir please

stiff yarrow
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sorry this is my fetish

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I'm a kimyou sexual

void void
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that shit came from t.me/dadoem, kinda interesting channel

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not sure if i trust telegram

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also i use it every day

finite wave
void void
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i cant click the link

void void
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cool, do you need an intellij plugin for it to not be weird though?

finite wave
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Yes

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Luckily it’s made for IJ

limber knotBOT
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fucking finally, I just got a java 11 docker base image at work that I am allowed to use \o/

finite wave
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Noob

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I’ve has it for 99 weeks

stiff yarrow
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@vernal moth what were you using before

limber knotBOT
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Break JPMS Barriers

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why tho

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why do ppl put time into breaking a system that has been designed not to be broken

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java 8

stiff yarrow
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Java 8 isn't that bad FeelsBadMan

limber knotBOT
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it is

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.g java 8 release date

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(MiniDigger) https://java.com/en/download/faq/release_dates.xml -- Java 7 and Java 8 Releases by Date: "Java Releases, Release Date. Java 8 Update 201 CPU Java 8 Update 202 PSU (OTN), January 15, 2019. Java 8 Update 191 CPU Java 8 Update 192 PSUĀ ..."

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2014...

stiff yarrow
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Java 8 is still new to me FeelsWowMan

finite wave
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.g How do i squirt while shitting

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What

stiff yarrow
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the fuck Jan

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the fuck

finite wave
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Bo

stiff yarrow
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MODS

finite wave
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No

stiff yarrow
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MODS

finite wave
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WhatƄ

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Why is safe search not on

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Wtf

void void
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its bing search

stiff yarrow
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@cosmic raft @golden gust @ancient bolt @slim nymph @acoustic pilot @chrome fulcrum @wide hazel

finite wave
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Help

stiff yarrow
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MODS

quasi valley
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nice one

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xDD

stiff yarrow
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SPANK JAN

finite wave
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Thought safe search was on i swear

stiff yarrow
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REMOVE HIS BOT PRIVILEDGES

void void
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what search result did you expect>

finite wave
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Let me show u

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Sec

quasi valley
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probz a minecraft tutorial thinksmart

finite wave
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) How & why I squat on the toilet (live demo) - length 3m 30s - 14,203 likes, 6,933 dislikes (67.2%) - 5,374,950 views - F r e e l e e on 2016.04.07

finite wave
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This stuff

stiff yarrow
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JAN

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WHAT

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THE

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FUCK

finite wave
void void
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squat and quirt are different

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and its still not ok

finite wave
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I realized

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Ey ey ey

stiff yarrow
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@upper flicker help Jan is posting his porn fetishes in discord

finite wave
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Omg it was an accident

stiff yarrow
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you did it twice bro

finite wave
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Didn’t actually expect porn

stiff yarrow
finite wave
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Second one is not porn

stiff yarrow
void void
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i dunno dude

stiff yarrow
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Jan you know there are probably porn discords you can go join if you want to post that kind of stuff

finite wave
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I’m in one no worries

stiff yarrow
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not surprised peepoJuice

finite wave
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Let’s pretend this never happened

limber knotBOT
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discord ppl

quasi valley
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The evidence is still there tiny_potato

finite wave
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@wide chasm help

stiff yarrow
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mini you're a mod everywhere but not here

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useless! NEXT!

finite wave
limber knotBOT
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I am a mod everywhere?

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I don't think I know a single place where I am mod, lol

stiff yarrow
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yes I made you mod in my discord and you haven't even shown up for work

finite wave
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I need this discord

limber knotBOT
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moderation is for plebs

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I am either a normal user or I am admin, where I can just ip ban ppl

stiff yarrow
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nah tbh you just seemed like the kind of guy who would be mod

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I rolled those dice

limber knotBOT
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thats a cool way to say that I am a sane person

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thanks :)

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don't tell electroniccat tho, he would argue otherwise šŸ˜‚

finite wave
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Give me the link to this discord nossy

stiff yarrow
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if I gave you a link you'd start posting your anime foot fetish there and I'd have to save every image before deleting it

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and we can't have that

finite wave
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I don’t usually post porn

stiff yarrow
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) WHAT WEBSITE THOUGH - It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia - length 1 minute and 19 seconds - 20 likes - 244,766 plays - Anthony Matan on 2013-10-02 16:43:28

finite wave
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.g How to pretend stuff never happened

limber knotBOT
finite wave
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Good enough

stiff yarrow
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City is pretty good at that

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hit him up

limber knotBOT
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can we talk about aikar's obsession with watersports though

stiff yarrow
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is that what we're calling 5 hour energy now

cedar spade
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no u

deep shoal
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is there an idiomatic name for an event listener that converts bukkit events into custom ones

wide chasm
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BukkitEventToCustomEventConverter?

slim nymph
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Magma, context is kinda important, which is clear even from the screenshot I was talking about TRUMP

gusty idol
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Is it safe to link it in a plugin's JavaDoc?

stiff yarrow
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@deep shoal you mean you are listening to an event and then creating a custom event from that one and calling it afterwards I assume?

deep shoal
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yeah

stiff yarrow
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in general just name things based on what they do, so as Stef suggested, make a name like BukkitEventToCustomEventConverter

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anything that you like that describes it

deep shoal
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okay cool
I was just wondering if there was a standard name for this kinda class that plugin developers use

stiff yarrow
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there's a lot of generic 'names' used for classes that do certain things

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such as Manager, Factory, Util, etc

deep shoal
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yeah what's a factory

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I see that sometimes

wide chasm
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A factory creates other objects.

stiff yarrow
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a Factory is usually used to create objects

deep shoal
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statically?

stiff yarrow
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the Factory itself can be a static class

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err

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a class with static methods

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I keep forgetting that Java has static classes and the names a bit of a misnomer

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@slim nymph I think he knew and was just trying to russle you jimmies

limber knotBOT
ancient bolt
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static class is not a misnomer

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it means exactly what it means in the context of a static method

pulsar wigeon
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unless it's a static nested class, which gets weird

wide chasm
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Well the idea of a static method is that you can call it witout an instance of the parent (in this case the class). Same thing for a static nested class, you can call it without an instance of the outer class.

pulsar wigeon
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call -> construct

wide chasm
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Well, I wanted to change it to construct, but if you have a static method inside the static class, i.e. OuterClass.InnerClass.myStaticMethod you're not really constructing anything.

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So I just left it at call.

merry orchid
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Would anyone know a unscramble word plugin ?, i tried
WordGames+.
Unscramble.
Reaction.
But all of them dont start automaticly even though
they state it.. non of them start auto they have to be done manualy..
Ive changed minimum players to have it start to 1 to test it only with me on
but even then nothing...

wide hazel
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Am awake

stiff yarrow
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@ancient bolt static class is a bit of a misnomer since its only used for inner classes which isn't intuitive by its name imo

pulsar wigeon
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wait wat

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you can have outer static classes tho?

stiff yarrow
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I don't think you can

pulsar wigeon
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...

stiff yarrow
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I'll go double check since you're reacting like that

pulsar wigeon
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oh

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you're right

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thinking of c#

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:^)

stiff yarrow
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well isn't a public class the same concept as static

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for outer classes

pulsar wigeon
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final class with all static methods

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and private ctor

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would be essentially a static class

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but you're right that it's not technically legal in java to mark an outer class static

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c# has that tho

finite wave
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C# sucks though

pulsar wigeon
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says the one doing things in eta

ancient bolt
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Sounds like you don't understand the intent of the word static

stiff yarrow
austere ivy
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static just means if you touch it, it shocks your other classes and they stop working for about 2-3 seconds

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like if anything touches it, if a function calls another static function or a function in a static class, that original function will pause where it is for 2-3 seconds, same with a class constructing a static class, that specific class stops working for 2-3 seconds

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so yeah, static is pretty good for non-multithreaded sleep() times specific to 2-3 seconds

wide chasm
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Wait what

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Am I missing the joke and being wooshed in a few seconds

austere ivy
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also helps as a developer, as you can see in aikar and other prestigious programmers code, they use static, so when they make it ā€œfasterā€ and do ā€œoptimizationā€ it really is just removing some static classes and functions

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but don’t remove all the static keywords at once because then your work can fire you since it’s already fully optimized so careful of that

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@wide chasm wooosh

wide chasm
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That was more like a minute, but I'll take it

austere ivy
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you know what static is right, right? if you don’t, live in the blindness, it’s technically better for more ā€œobject orientationā€ since it’s technically cheating :P

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useful for utility classes though!

stiff yarrow
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static just means the object exists for the lifetime of the program iirc

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its basically global in disguise

austere ivy
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what nooo

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at least not my understanding

stiff yarrow
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it also means the thing is shared between instances of that class

wide chasm
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About existing for the lifetime, iirc stuff like static fields, only get intialized when the class is first called upon. So, from that point on they would exist for the rest of the program's lifetime. But I don't know too much about that stuff.

stiff yarrow
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yeah I'm not an expert in Java either, but what you say sounds right

olive garden
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Don't static stuff get "freed" when the ClassLoader which was used to load them gets dropped?

stiff yarrow
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not sure

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when you do you ever unclassload something

olive garden
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Well, Bukkit does create a new ClassLoader for each plugin, not sure whether it uses them to load its classes though

jade light
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Yeah, I believe statics are per-classloader (as they depend on the class object)

olive garden
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No, I don't think so

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they are shared between classloaders I think

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but they do belong to a specific one

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but I am no expert

pulsar wigeon
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Sounds like you don't understand the intent of the word static

I mean, static in common language means "non-changing". That doesn't really capture the nuances of how things are defined in programming languages.

jade light
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Yeah, it seems you're right (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1133552/explanation-of-how-classloader-loads-static-variables#comment951306_1133563) "It's not to do with the class loader. It is implemented by javac creating the static initialiser in order of the source"

stiff yarrow
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agreed with wizjan

pulsar wigeon
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eg a static variable can change just fine. but it doesn't change between instances of its enclosing object

stiff yarrow
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outside of programming I think of it as something that doesn't change

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doesn't really mean the same fucking thing in Java tho

pulsar wigeon
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so in that case, that's the meaning of static

jade light
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that's final

stiff yarrow
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yep

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what I would call static outside of programming is basically what immutable is in programming

jade light
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constant is another word for it

pulsar wigeon
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a static inner class is one that exists without its parent class. however, you can make multiple instances of it that are different (eg new A.Inner() != new A.Inner()) even though in java, members of that inner class must be static and thus are shared (eg new A.Inner().field == new A.Inner().field)

stiff yarrow
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how often do you guys use inner classes tbh, they are typically ugly AF to me and I just put them in their own files

wide chasm
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Depends on the program.

pulsar wigeon
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every class should be an inner class of your main Plugin class tbh

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that's the only way to make plugins

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:^)

stiff yarrow
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not talking about anonymous classes but inner classes

olive garden
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@wide chasm Wanna report another IntelliJ bug? (I'm not using the latest version btw)

int[] array = ...
int index = ...
array.length < index ? array[index] : ...  //warning
array.length == index ? array[index] : ...  //warning
array.length <= index ? array[index] : ...  //warning
array.length >= index ? array[index] : ...  //no warning
finite wave
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Noob

pulsar wigeon
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what's the issue?

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sounds correct to me

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oh wait, >=

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figured there would be one more test case with just >

wide chasm
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Well, the last one would only fail if array.length == index and the inspection sort of states that it only reports on stuff of which it is absolutely certain that it will fail. It'd then be more a feature request than a bug fix I think, and they seem to be a lot slower with the former than the latter.

olive garden
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I see

pulsar wigeon
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oic

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that's an odd way of looking at things tho?

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don't they have a lot of inspections like

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"Nullable thing might be null throw NPE"?

wide chasm
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Yes, they have a lot of inspections which report on things that might be wrong. But this inspection seems to be specifically for stuff that is wrong, with absolute certainty. This would then place this into the category of feature requests, which seem to take them a while to implement.

pulsar wigeon
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ic. well i've never seen that inspection so i wouldn't know ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

olive garden
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I think you think too much stef

pulsar wigeon
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probably cuz i don't write dumb code like that Kappa

wide chasm
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It's the "Constant conditions & exceptions" inspection.

finite wave
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Well

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You could just write proper code

wide chasm
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Isn't that kinda the point of the inspections? To help you write proper code?

finite wave
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To help guide you, but you gotta do some work yourself too.

wide chasm
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The more IntelliJ can do for me, the better imo.

stiff yarrow
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Jan is the ideal programmer we can only hope to be FeelsWowMan

wide chasm
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Jan is the new Jon Skeet.

finite wave
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Omg

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I can make this

hard viper
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members you of the inner class can be not static tho.

finite wave
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Well just create an inner enum

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Suddenly you got free fields.

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Which are static

pulsar wigeon
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wat

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"members you of the inner class"?

finite wave
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Yes

hard viper
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I mean fields of the inner class can be not static.

finite wave
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Idk about that but just make an inner enum and bam

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Enums are just glorified static consts

pulsar wigeon
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oic

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i guess i'm mixing up languages again

hard viper
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Probably.

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The only diff in static/non static inner class in java, is that non static actually has a reference to parent instance.

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The reference is autogenerated, so it all works transparent to user most of the time.

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Until you leak memory beacuse of that šŸ˜„

stiff yarrow
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@finite wave ENUMs are real fake consts though

finite wave
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Yes thats what i said

worldly condor
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someone who knows how to get images with the version on bintray ?

void void
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@stiff yarrow told the bitch no about the "event stream" api she wanted, she says "fine i'll do myself"

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wake up this morning

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"can u atleast do the livestream"

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fuck bitch

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im blocking this hoe

pulsar wigeon
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can you just fucking block them and stop bitching here about it all the time

void void
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why are you mad

pulsar wigeon
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this is probably the 4th time you've said you're going to

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just do it

void void
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lmao

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quit raging m8

pulsar wigeon
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i'm not raging m8

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you, however, are bitching about it quite a bit

void void
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(is actually the first time i said im going to block, and when i say im going to block i do.)

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so

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okƩ baby

acoustic pilot
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Damn, MBassador is a cool event bus implementation. Better than Guava's IMO. Nice and extensible API, and seemingly very performant.

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I think I'll use this instead to do my message queue handling, as it has more flexibility in filtering events than either Bukkit or Bungee event APIs

void void
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think i saw that once

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mbax made it right?

acoustic pilot
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Nope

void void
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oh rip

finite wave
cosmic raft
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you found it @acoustic pilot! :P

acoustic pilot
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Yeah, the annotated filters is nice, one of the reasons I'm using it actually.

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Good work 😃

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Can do things like define an @IgnoreCancelled annotated filter or @Channel({ "foo", "bar" }) for messaging channels.

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Actually, not sure on the second one. Need to test it out

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Since it relies on an underlying filter, I don't know if the annotation parameters would work.

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But not a deal breaker either way.

finite wave
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No

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Well, not by any intend. If you can prove that Paper is the issue, go submit an issue report.

void void
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can never tell if they are asking before they try it or if they are reporting an issue lmao

orchid pelican
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Woah that MBassador looks useful af

livid hound
void void
fallen jungle
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Has anybody else experienced mobs moving super fast?

native thunder
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There's a config option for that

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Like all good things in life

heady spear
#

I feel like I'm going crazy :/ I save my bungeecord config with a special port, and I disable query. When I start the server it enables query and changes the bind port

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y it do this

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lol looks like it's pterodactyl

gloomy sphinx
#

rip leaderheads

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the amount of 1 stars

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also i managed to learn the gnome 3 keyboard shortcuts

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its not that bad

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having 1 program per workspace is a cool idea

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but it still is kinda shit when you actually need to work

upper flicker
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you can have as many programs per workspace as you want

gloomy sphinx
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yeah but the gnome model is to do everything with your keyboard including switching programs

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it is a very cool way to do things

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ill link a video

upper flicker
#

I use gnome everyday

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please spare me the gnome model video

static badge
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.g gnome model

limber knotBOT
gloomy sphinx
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Gnome Shell Tutorial : Desktop Workflow Explained - length 13m - 533 likes, 11 dislikes (98.0%) - 19,315 views - AJ Reissig on 2017.05.04

gloomy sphinx
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im going to stick with it for a while

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bare ass gnome 3

limber knotBOT
#

gnome 3

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not gnome 2

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runs

upper flicker
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gnome2 makes me sad

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and the forks trying to keep it alive make me sadder

limber knotBOT
#

at least gnome 3 finally uses Wayland I guess

upper flicker
#

wayland is pretty nice

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still lots of little issues with it though

#

integration issues between wayland and xwayland mostly

limber knotBOT
#

Gnome 2 was great

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Consider when it was released

upper flicker
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I dont need to

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people still cling to it today

limber knotBOT
#

I mean if their desktop environment setup works, why break it?

upper flicker
#

I mean gnome2 was a dumpster fire

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but yes

limber knotBOT
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It works.

upper flicker
#

then you have new people who still use it

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so

limber knotBOT
#

It works perfectly.

upper flicker
#

no

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windows "works" too

limber knotBOT
#

I've used it more or less for the last 15 years so ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

upper flicker
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doesnt make it my preferred thing

limber knotBOT
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windows, the DE that crashes at least once a day

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You're retarded.

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GNOME2 4EVER.

upper flicker
#

sorry I said something bad about your favorite de

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that just happens to be garbage

pulsar wigeon
#

yea wait wtf are you trying to argue that it doesn't work because you don't like it?

upper flicker
#

yes thats exactly what I said

pulsar wigeon
#

i'm no gnome2 fan but that's a bit of a stretch

upper flicker
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I said it doesnt work because I dont like it

limber knotBOT
#

I'm kinda questioning how GNOME Shell works with multiple monitors btw

upper flicker
#

fucking nailed it

pulsar wigeon
#

tbh not sure what's wrong with it

limber knotBOT
#

like do yu have multiple workspaces per monitor? or one global one?

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I have a laptop. Works perfectly.

upper flicker
#

I think by default its one global one

pulsar wigeon
#

all i've heard is that it's a dumpster fire and not your preferred thing

upper flicker
#

but you can change it

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thats still not what you just said

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there are plenty of things that are dumpster fires that work just fine

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Ive got plenty of issues with gnome3 too, dont you worry

limber knotBOT
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Your definition of dumpster fire is dumb

upper flicker
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you're retarded

limber knotBOT
#

kinda eying KDE though for my eventual switch to linux on my main PC xD

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You're making a mountain of a molehill.

upper flicker
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lol

limber knotBOT
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I am self aware enough that I realize that I am retarded.

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You, however, don't.

upper flicker
#

Im sorry I said some bad things that you dont agree with

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Ill make sure to cry myself to sleep later

limber knotBOT
#

šŸ‘Œ

upper flicker
#

phoenix616: I've been wanting to just do a full switch over to KDE and live in it for a week or so and then see how that goes

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just havent brought myself to do it yet

limber knotBOT
#

ah, the main issue with multiple monitors that I wasn't able to put into words before: if you mainly switch workspaces via keyboard and have one set on each monitor, how do you tell it which monitor to switch the space? like do you have to use the mouse or press additional keys to switch to that monitor? :S

upper flicker
#

Im sure that the next gnome3 update will remove xyz features and then Ill have this conversation all over again

limber knotBOT
#

hm, I guess one could use a webcam and head/eye tracking to select the active monitor and apply shortcuts only to that šŸ¤”

upper flicker
#

I think it just uses active window/focus

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and my guess is most people who live with that use the mouse over focus

gloomy sphinx
#

i prefer grome 3 over 2

vestal jasper
#

I prefer plasma over gnome

gloomy sphinx
#

windows is slowly moving in the direction of gnome 3

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at least the way windows are managed and workspaces

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it will probably be the future tbh

limber knotBOT
#

yeah I mean I'm definitly not someone who never uses the mouse, just think it's unintuitive if you have to press a button to select the monitor that you are already looking at xD

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like it's two inputs for only one action

upper flicker
#

yeah thats a little messy

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multiple monitors with per monitor tasks tend to be that way

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I dont even think thats a gnome or linux specific issue

limber knotBOT
#

yeah, I just never realised that before thinkign about a "onley-keyboard-multi-monitor" environment would work with a workspaces concept

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I mean I have different "workspaces" per monitor on windows too: it's called a task bar...

upper flicker
#

I think on Windows the workspaces are global

limber knotBOT
#

and alt+tab is per monitor too xD

upper flicker
#

pretty sure they are on macOS as well

limber knotBOT
#

so yeah, one workspace per monitor

#

in the end all that you need is more monitors imo ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

#

I'm up to four and I'm still thinking that filling out the corners would be cool xD

upper flicker
#

I have 3 all laid out in one long wide panel

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wouldnt want to go any wider

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might flip one portrait

limber knotBOT
#

nah, I mean on top

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my fourth is on top of my middle one

upper flicker
#

yeah that seems sane

gloomy sphinx
#

What is going on with the latest citizens?

#

seems like their past build are all like this

warped spear
limber knotBOT
#

they use NMS so...

vestal jasper
warped spear
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hello

upper flicker
#

that isnt the latest citizens

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use a dev build

void void
#

i looked up what 2 do to weigh luggage before a flight, and they recommend using a bathroom scale or a handheld scale thinkfire

is it bad that i l iterally go to the airport and find an empty check in booth, turn on their scale and weigh my shit blobhyperthink

gloomy sphinx
#

Im using the latest dev build

pulsar wigeon
#

i mean, issue is if you go there and then weigh, you're stuck there.

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if you're at home, you can unpack

void void
#

wdym

gloomy sphinx
#

i mean that one is 24 but 28 does the same

warped spear
#

is the timing control in spigot bad

void void
#

I mean, I go there before my flight. Days before

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Weigh my stuff, leave

warped spear
#

i mean tick rate control

void void
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Come back on check in day and it's all gud

pulsar wigeon
#

do you...live right next to the airport?

void void
#

ye

limber knotBOT
#

lol

pulsar wigeon
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well ok

limber knotBOT
#

why leave the house if you can just use your scale though?

void void
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It's not the airport I'm leaving from tho, just "an" airport

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Idk I'm afraid the bathroom scale isn't accurate though

limber knotBOT
#

.lart gnome2

void void
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enough**

limber knotBOT
#

mixes epoxy into gnome2's toothpaste.

#

Hello Friends.

void void
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.taco gnome2

limber knotBOT
#

hands gnome2 a delicious hard-shell taco filled with minced beef and topped with salsa, guacamole and capsicum!

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gives gnome2 a spicy taco

upper flicker
#

I dont think I've ever weighed any of my luggage o.O

#

how much are you bringing

void void
#

Uhhhh, it's just one checked and one carry on. But they have like a 50lb restriction, including suitcase weight. I'm usually below, I just make sure so I'm not caught off guard with an overweight fee

#

Plus I like to make sure there's room for souvenirs

warped spear
#

any good ways to reduce ram usage, got extra cpu power but server is using to much ram

void void
#

welcome to javaland

#

memory doesn't work how you think it does in this alternate reality

slim nymph
#

java uses what you tel lits allowed to use

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if you want it to use less, give it less

warped spear
#

the server host i am using gives me 4 threads, and 2gb to work with

#

looking for ways to maximize that

slim nymph
#

well OS needs some memory

#

is it 'your able to use 2G for java?

warped spear
#

yes 2gb for the server not os

slim nymph
#

or you have a VM with 2G?

warped spear
#

ubuntu vm 2gb, 2core 4 thread

slim nymph
#

how strict are they if you go over a little for temporary moments?

#

ok so the entire vm is 2gb?

void void
#

yeeeeahhh moar like 1.5gb for server

slim nymph
#

or you have more but they dont want you to use it

warped spear
#

its server pro, you get 2gbs for your server

slim nymph
#

.flags and then use -Xmx1500M and -Xms1500M

limber knotBOT
warped spear
#

vm not factored in

void void
#

shared hosting then

warped spear
#

I have extra cpu power to spare, whats the best way to handle that

#

like any way to cut ram at cost of cpu power

void void
#

how would that work...

#

they are two separate things

warped spear
#

idk rendering, I am kinda new to this

void void
#

Memory is for temporary storage of things running in the server, including plugins and chunks and player data. CPU is for processing things, like entities moving around for example.

#

They're not interchangeable.

#

Are you having lag or some specific problem we can focus on

warped spear
#

random tps drops

void void
#

/timings on, wait no less than 15-20 mins, then /timings paste.

#

when you're done

warped spear
#

ok thank you

#

@void void pasted link

proper scroll
unreal quarry
#

Protip: /timings on isnt really a thing anymore, @void void. Timings is always on unless you manually disabled it

void void
#

oh i didnt know

gloomy sphinx
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is spark even good

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the results are broken : )

void void
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javalin gud

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although i used spark before

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worked fine

gloomy sphinx
#

must be a recent bug with the website

unreal quarry
#

i never used spark, tbh. the thought of running a profiler inside the thing i'm profiling putting more of a load on it doesnt sound sane to me

#

i used to feell the same about timings, too. i was one to manually disable it. then i learned timings only uses like 100ms load out of a full hour.

#

spark could be just as small afaik

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doubtful, though

void void
#

spark being the webserver, right

unreal quarry
#

wait, it runs a web server instance? 😮 i thought it just collected data and sent it to a real server to be processed for viewing like timings does. if it runs its own instance then hell no lol

wraith oracle
#

Spark the profiler lol

pulsar wigeon
#

collects data and sends a text file to a paste service

void void
#

i dont know if we are talking bout the same thing

wraith oracle
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not the web framework

void void
#

ok

#

there we go

#

i was talking about the web one

unreal quarry
#

oh, i thought the profiler šŸ˜›

pulsar wigeon
#

pretty sure we were talking about the profiler

#

"we" as in everyone but simple

void void
#

uh, ok

#

thx for being rude

#

(again)

pulsar wigeon
#

how the actual fuck was that rude?

#

are you just taking offense at everything for the fun of it?

upper flicker
unreal quarry
#

so, today i went to the state tax office to try and register some custom plates and i found out a matching set was incorrectly sold as indivisuals :/ was going to get "his" and "hers" in plates for our bikes.. but they sold "hers" by itself

gloomy sphinx
#

I was talking about spark the text editor

unreal quarry
#

so now i have to think of some new plate ideas because i'm not getting something dumb like "his" and "hers2" like they recommended

bright ermine
#

Is it possible to have 1.8 plugins on a 1.7.10 only server?

unreal quarry
void void
#

🌮 ?

warped spear
#

is it worth it to use java 11 for paper?

#

or does it just cause more problems

slim nymph
#

its worth it yes, GC is improved in 11

#

as long as none of your plugins has issues with it

cosmic raft
#

@unreal quarry "PAPERMC"?

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:P

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or PAPIER, french for paper

unreal quarry
#

too many characters for a motorcycle šŸ˜›

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5/6 depending on style

cosmic raft
#

PAPIER fits then :P

pulsar wigeon
#

interestingly, that's also german for paper

tropic flame
#

Are people who use WinRAR rarted people? šŸ¤”

upper flicker
#

no they just never moved to 7zip

cosmic raft
#

wtf is rarted

upper flicker
#

7zip has more features and is probably faster

#

but I still prefer winrar's ux

stiff yarrow
#

7zip FeelsWowMan

cosmic raft
#

7zip is what I install

upper flicker
#

then you have everyone elsewhere where you dont need entirely new programs to manage archives you just get a supporting tool and run it from whatever

stiff yarrow
#

I .7z stuff all the time just to spread t he gospel

cosmic raft
#

distribute mcmmo in a .7z

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mcmmo.jar.zip.rar.tar.7z

unreal quarry
#

speaking of rar... remember the time when we would download pirated stuff and it would be rar format with a password that they never provided?'

upper flicker
#

yes lol

unreal quarry
#

so many hours wasted

tropic flame
#

As a file format, 7z is better

cosmic raft
#

that still is a thing now, billy

tropic flame
#

Lmao mfw that still happens to me

#

No face, just disgust

upper flicker
#

I mean I still just use gzipped tars because theyre more supported

tropic flame
#

"more supported" why not just zip with deflate algorithm lul

cosmic raft
#

zip

#

2019

upper flicker
#

^

cosmic raft
#

Would you like to run Windows XP while you're at it

#

with IE6

tropic flame
#

I'm still on Windows 7 so

cosmic raft
#

even worse

tropic flame
#

7 is not worse than XP lmao

cosmic raft
#

upgrade to 10 already

tropic flame
#

Anyway I just didn't upgrade because apparently my motherboard is not compatible

cosmic raft
#

wat

tropic flame
#

Or my CPU, I'm not sure of which

#

The upgrade assistant said my CPU wasn't compatible

cosmic raft
#

what is your cpu

tropic flame
#

Athlon X64 Dual Core +3800 2GHz

#

And my GPU is ATI Radeon Xpress 200

#

If it is relevant

vestal jasper
#

ARK btw

#

7zip is nice too

unreal quarry
#

i put 10 on an atom 330.. it'll work on your athlon

stiff yarrow
#

@cosmic raft the moment I do that I get 5 additional support issues a day

cosmic raft
pulsar wigeon
#

explorer compressed folder functions
winzip
winrar
7z
using tar/(g|b)zip from the command line

unreal quarry
#

so i found a new movie last night on Netflix that hit my top spot for being most awkward. its called "Between Worlds" and has Nicolas Cage

#

i thought it'd be at least half decent. nope. horrible acting. horrible plot. extremely awkward sexual stuff :S

cosmic raft
#

speaking of weird movies

#

The Ridiculous 6

tropic flame
#

Do I need virtualization support to run windows 10? Because my CPU supports it but my BIOS gives me no option to enable it

#

That might be why

#

🤷 whatever my pc is old anyway

slim nymph
#

why doesn't which work for all binaries in path?

#

wonder if it doesnt like the ~

#

yep that was exactly it

#

switched to /home/aikar/Android and it works

#

thats a bug in which

void void
slim nymph
#

about to magisk this shit up hopefully

warped spear
#

is the max tick time with spigot bad also how many threads for the async chunk stuff

slim nymph
#

it doesnt exists on paper

warped spear
#

does paper completely override spigot.yml

pulsar wigeon
#

what the hell is that PS1 o-o

upper flicker
#

no paper still uses some settings

#

the tick limiter is just one we ignore

warped spear
#

wat is waterfall?

upper flicker
#

a fork of bungeecord

stiff yarrow
#

tick...limiter?

slim nymph
#

never seen a multiline ps1 before wiz?

stiff yarrow
#

🤢

upper flicker
#

ye, server lagging, just dont tick random shit

#

what could go wrong

warped spear
#

ok what is bungeecord I am new to bukkit based stuff, in the past when I have done servers it has usually been with forge

stiff yarrow
upper flicker
#

the first versions wouldnt even check whether or not they were skipping players

#

I assume he's fixed that now

unreal quarry
#

@warped spear bungeecord is a proxy server. you can run multiple minecraft server instances behind it

slim nymph
#

@upper flicker the tick code skips players already anyways

warped spear
slim nymph
#

players are ticked outside of main tick loop

pulsar wigeon
#

it's not that i've never seen a multiline ps1

#

it's just so...jammed up with stuff

slim nymph
#

server, last command response status, time, username, git branch, current working dir. all useful info šŸ˜›

unreal quarry
#

@warped spear that looks like a timings report to a healthy server

stiff yarrow
#

@slim nymph so players are in separate tick loops?

pulsar wigeon
#

i can tell what it is

#

i just find it deplorable :P

slim nymph
#

yes noss

warped spear
#

@unreal quarry so its all good?

stiff yarrow
slim nymph
#

@warped spear seems you may of encountered the timings bug

#

that chicken timing looks suspicious

unreal quarry
#

@warped spear general idea is, if nothing is wrong, then nothing is wrong. šŸ˜‰

slim nymph
#

nobody can figure out whats wrong though

warped spear
#

its fine 90% of the time but we get random tps drops

#

were it will hit like 5-10 for a minute or 2

slim nymph
#

i blame citizens

pulsar wigeon
#

good call

unreal quarry
#

you'd need to get a timings report that contains that lag to know more. this report is only 3 minutes long, i'm guessing from a fresh boot.

slim nymph
#

oh that world actually does have 180 chickens

warped spear
#

yeah i was testing some tweaks

stiff yarrow
#

are the citizen devs in this discord

warped spear
#

we have one of those chicken grinders

slim nymph
#

no they arent friendly to us 😦

warped spear
#

maybe i should add the mob stacking plugin

slim nymph
#

man i need to delete some shit off phones memory

pulsar wigeon
#

one of the citizens devs used to contribute a lot to craftbook years ago

unreal quarry
#

dont worry, aikar. i'm not friendly to them either. they are messing with the entity controllers and causing conflicting issues with my ridables šŸ˜›

slim nymph
#

oh man

stiff yarrow
#

my only encounter with them is bugs resulting from them hijacking scoreboards

slim nymph
#

i wonder if this entire time the Magisk folder is whats tripping my pokemon/ingress

#

the magisk i dont even have

#

i was reading that the folder existing trips safetynet

warped spear
#

the async chunk stuff is amazing, its loading so much faster

stiff yarrow
#

in mcMMO we hotswap the scoreboards so we don't disturb other plugins by using the jank scoreboard API

slim nymph
#

your welcome šŸ˜›

#

i was running through my world generating chunks trying to reproduce that out of bounds bug

stiff yarrow
#

citizens just keeps the scoreboards peepoJuice

slim nymph
#

and i was like 'shit, is this generating or loading?

#

i couldnt tell

unreal quarry
#

does md_5 still think async chunks are a bad thing and ssd is the answer? lol

vestal jasper
slim nymph
#

hes just gonna wait for mojang to do it

stiff yarrow
#

Mojang LUL

slim nymph
#

they are working on it

#

just.... not as good as mine

#

no where near as good šŸ˜›

warped spear
#

asynchronous compute is great, still waiting on mojang to replace the shitty opengl wrapper

slim nymph
#

thats in works for 1.14 or 1.15

warped spear
#

minecraft with vulkan would make me very happy

gloomy sphinx
#

@slim nymph yes even having an empty folder of magisk will do it. Pokemon go scans your phone without perms

slim nymph
#

well my magisk folder even has stuff in it, from old install lol

#

when i got the phone we didnt have root yet, so i preemptively oem unlocked...

#

started using phone

#

then people found out you also need unlock_critical 😦

#

so ive been stuck w/o root for past 1.5 years because i didnt want to wipe data

#

but i just learned last weekend that the bootloader no longer requires critical

stiff yarrow
#

is working on code for not working on it

warped spear
#

I wonder if optifine will ever implement async

slim nymph
#

?

red halo
#

lol

slim nymph
#

optifine is client, async chunks is server

red halo
#

optifine has server side stuff btw

warped spear
#

i know but i just mean for client side rendering

red halo
#

for singleplayer

slim nymph
#

erm async doesnt really apply in client concept lol

stiff yarrow
#

it can't with opengl

slim nymph
#

but someone could port my work to a forge mod

#

but forge mods that mod chunk load process might have issues

red halo
#

just apply paper patches to the integrated server 😻

stiff yarrow
#

just play Minecraft in RAMDISK like the rest of us

vestal jasper
#

Downloading - 1% to go
"Your internet speed is very slow! Click cancel to download in the background!"

slim nymph
#

ramdisk doesnt offload decompression, deserialization and entity creation to another thread šŸ˜›

vestal jasper
stiff yarrow
#

just play Minecraft on a quantum CPU like the rest of us

slim nymph
#

oh right i couldnt get entity creation off main

#

had issues with it

stiff yarrow
#

does Mojang even care about improving perf in Java when they have bedrock being a special snowflake

red halo
warped spear
#

minecraft is the only game were i have gotten an fps boost from a ram disk

#

it hurts me to say that, but its true

slim nymph
#

@red halo i dont understand question

red halo
#

bedrock edition has fake chunks 😻

#

4x4 chunk real render distance

#

very cool

warped spear
#

does minecraft bother with culling the space behind you?

slim nymph
#

paratask is going to be used for like entity trackers, chunk saving to start. then the final goal is regions

red halo
#

hmm

slim nymph
#

the regions stuff super excites me, but itll be so ambitious

stiff yarrow
#

@warped spear almost all renders do this

#

its industry standard

warped spear
#

I know but I am wondering if minecraft does

red halo
#

yeah it does

#

for rendering

stiff yarrow
#

the real question is does Minecraft use fast inverse square root Kappa

pulsar wigeon
#

lol

#

have you seen betterfps

slim nymph
#

specially with my idea to keep all bukkit api access on main

warped spear
#

i know there is a mod for that clients side

slim nymph
#

that should give us a lot of safety

pulsar wigeon
#

it's a mod that literally just replaces things like java math usage with faster approximations really hackily

warped spear
#

it works though

pulsar wigeon
#

sometimes

warped spear
#

i wonder if you can uses fp16 for minecraft

pulsar wigeon
#

it also apparently just breaks worldedit SOMEHOW

stiff yarrow
#

I mean who needs doubles when you have floats baby

pulsar wigeon
#

even though worldedit doesn't touch any render code whatsoever

slim nymph
#

I also want to see about using LockSupport instead of wait/notify

warped spear
#

better fps can break optifine aswell

pulsar wigeon
#

that makes more sense tho

warped spear
#

i mean breaking world edit does too

stiff yarrow
#

well optifine probably isn't expecting your client to be doing stupid shit in its code

warped spear
#

if it messes with rendering

pulsar wigeon
#

why would that make sense

warped spear
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hacky math + non vanilla geometry and renders

pulsar wigeon
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so, this relates to worldedit....?

warped spear
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like world edit depends on a bunch of specialize math basically so it makes sense that it would break world edit

stiff yarrow
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non vanilla geometry? thonkeng

pulsar wigeon
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🤦

warped spear
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i am just thinking like brushes and stuff

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like non of that math exists in vanilla

pulsar wigeon
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you have no clue what you're talking about do you

warped spear
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90% of it no, but considering the amount of shit I have seen better fps break i can totally see it break world edit

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literally never put in any mod pack because it breaks shit

tropic flame
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Kim Jong Un was re-elected

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Everything in this sentence feels wrong

unreal quarry
reef arch
warped spear
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why is citizen so laggy lmao

slim nymph
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WOOOO I can finally update Netflix on my phone!

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ah that was so painless to root

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fastboot boot twrp.img
flash twpr-installer.zip
flash magisk.zip

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now time to go TiBu my damn device

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havent done it in 1.5 years ._.

warped spear
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is it possible to enable the entity tick rate limit with paper

slim nymph
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NO

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its horrible

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it corrupts things

warped spear
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wait really?

slim nymph
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yes

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did you not read my article

warped spear
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link?

slim nymph
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scroll up lol

warped spear
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ah

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well good to know, why do entities run at 50 ticks when the world runs at 20

slim nymph
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i put in a system to reduce entity tick rate

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it doesnt run at 50

warped spear
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wat is the rate?

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also just gotta say the light tweaks are amazing for keeping lag down

slim nymph
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once per tick

bleak urchin
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What phone do you have?

void void
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heh, ur lucky that you have fastboot boot

bleak urchin
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My Note 8 used to on a custom ROM, but ever since I flashed it back to the stock ROM, I cannot flash TWRP to it again for some reason...

warped spear
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what does the remove corrupt entities do an why is it off by default

void void
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i've had few phones what either don't support fastboot or fastboot boot is simply broken

bleak urchin
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Says Custom binary blocked due to remaining installment balance, and I've never had that message before.

void void
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wot

slim nymph
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@bleak urchin Pixel2XL

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i wll only buy google phones

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no restrictions from rooting

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when i bought the phone i preemptively unlocked bootloader to prepare for root

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the issue i ran into is initially, google required a 2 tier unlock 'unlock_critical' i didnt know about

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and i had startedusing the phone and didnt want to wipe data again 😦

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but google apparently randomly removed the need to unlock critical in some update

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so i was able to flash w/o wipe

slim nymph
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Not sure why we needed another zombie show Netflix but guess I'll check it out

gloomy sphinx
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which one

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I just started watching one

cosmic raft
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@stiff yarrow thanks, i'll have to remember that

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rip

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where's that one from

stiff yarrow
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I'll show you a world of pure imagination HmmCoffeeSmile

cosmic raft
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peepoMad šŸ—”

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all fixed

slim nymph
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Black Summer

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And woot I've regained access to Ingress Prime and PokƩmon Go

austere ivy
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hello

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holy guac

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Black Summer!?

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only the most prestigious EDM artist

slim nymph
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I got to get level 16 on ingress

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So that means walking

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Um I do not agree

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Edm and prestige immediately screams AvB, Tiesto

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A State of Trance!

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Avicii too

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Rip

cosmic raft
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if you didn't see

austere ivy
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aikar

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I'm joking

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do you know who black summer is

slim nymph
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Wynne - Buzzer - length 2m 3s - 3,827 likes, 61 dislikes (98.4%) - 122,400 views - WynneVEVO on 2018.09.12

austere ivy
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Is Black Summer Australia's Youngest Producer? - length 5m 22s - 9,645 likes, 5,150 dislikes (65.2%) - 1,009,454 views - triple j on 2015.04.14

austere ivy
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please watch that

cosmic raft
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@austere ivy everyone does

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summer season with the black plague

unreal quarry
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i tried ingress once. installed it, saw there was only 2 nodes (or whatever they are called) in my city. uninstalled it.

austere ivy
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THOSE EQ SKILLS

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MORE

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BASS

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welcome to black summer class

slim nymph
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Live in the boondocks Billy?

austere ivy
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first up open up everyone's favorite synth HARMOR of course

unreal quarry
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surprisingly, no, aikar lol

austere ivy
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now this is a very powerful tool that people such as Seamless use

slim nymph
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Yeah these games aren't much fun in boonies

austere ivy
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but we'll just be using preset, so pop up a preset, and you're done with sound design!

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now you want effects

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eq your sound somewhere to there

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that's how you know you have REAL BASS

slim nymph
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Ingress is the original data source for PokƩmon

austere ivy
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who cares about mixing or mastering, throw it all in but for the real head bangers you want real bass lemme tell you boost it right there at 20hz where your headphones start to vibrate and you can't even hear it

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that's the good stuff