well they arent seeing
#general
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worn ember
what if they're racist? 
do they see white?
golden gust
The mind makes it ups own stimulus when it doesn't have any
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so the whole framing is kind of stupid
tropic flame
wait, what if they see like when you put an image inside a spoiler in discord?
like super blurry
or with the "sensitive content" screen from instagram but they can't get it off
jolly violet
when you see "black" your eyes aren't sending black signals, there's no signals. so blind people see that too, but they are too dumb to understand
that's why the question can't be answered
because they cant
worn ember
blind people are dumb confirmed
jolly violet
yeah exactly
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youre retarded
worn ember
Maybe you're the dumb one for not understanding how they see'n't
jolly violet
exactly exactly, zach is dumb just like the blind people
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some memes are so stupid they transcend the meme and just make you look stupid
void void
jolly violet
you'd understand if you werent dumb
i once heard that you only have 2 brain cells
that's not many
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.kotlin
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all I need to respond with
tropic flame
Why is grandma reading the bible? Because she's studying for her finals.
worn ember
Sue them
jolly violet
one day we're all going to die, how sad
pulsar wigeon
imagine hytale just ported minecraft's rendering engine to c#
or whtaever it is they're writing the client in
pulsar wigeon
💯
excuse me please don't bring up anything negative about hytale
it's the prophesized WoW, er, minecraft killer
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why do the textures look like some shitty hd 4x fan pack from mcforums
some questions just wont get answered
pulsar wigeon
sounds like there's some history there
tropic flame
Honestly it's a game with blocks, how else did you want it to look like?
heady spear
It's Aero, he hates everyone :/
tropic flame
"not minecraft"?
ornate oasis
pulsar wigeon
not with the same lighting bugs that MC Beta 1.13 had?
idk there's a lot of things we can ask
no telling what we'll actually get by release though
cubeworld is also "a game with blocks" but it looks nothing like minecraft tbh
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m8
their marketing team has spent a lot of time and energy hyping up and pandering to the MC crowd
dont you dare go and start trying to slander their hard work
gloomy sphinx
What does this do? Unsure if safe or not. Someone sent it over discord asking why litebans has this but I have no idea
pulsar wigeon
if their marketing team keeps the leaks up, someone will make a forge mod that does everything hytale has before they release
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as an aside, they should give raises to everyone on their marketing team
they're only a few notches below no mans sky levels of stupid hype
heady spear
it's because the minecraft community consists out of brainless 12 year olds
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i mean overhype would be pretty fucked
acoustic pilot
It takes a special level of stupid to have No Man's Sky level of hype and flop so bad lol
heady spear
Hypickle could fart in a jar and those morons would buy it
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and at this point I expect at least a stumble
pulsar wigeon
@gloomy sphinx https://i.imgur.com/3AGB1uT.png
heady spear
The game is just incredibly boring lol
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tbh I expected them to cut and run
acoustic pilot
So did I lol
heady spear
it's better than it was at launch, but it's still... boring.
gloomy sphinx
dont think your are suppose to open it on your desktop
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the fact they stuck around and tried to deliver, and actually did end up delivering on a lot
super surprising
acoustic pilot
Apparently they're doing NMS in VR now, or working on it
Instead of focusing on actual content
heady spear
now you can explore a universe of empty planets... in VR
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VR is the new hype
pulsar wigeon
TCC, that was just general advice about accepting random compiled executable code from random people on the internet
doesn't really matter if you run it on your desktop or server
advice is the same
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it's h2
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VR is the content random 12 year olds want now
acoustic pilot
VR is great but first gen sucks ass
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why not just get h2 from their official shit
heady spear
So like, you can be bored in VR. That's awesome.
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yet most games that are ported to VR end up being really bad in VR
gloomy sphinx
Ive played minecraft in VR
worn ember
everything is bad in VR
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compare a hash against what version it should be
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its usually just the ground up for VR games that are tolerable
fleet osprey
until VR is like ready player one level I don't think I want any part of it
acoustic pilot
Price is not accessible, hardware is not intuitive.
heady spear
you're bad in real reality dark
acoustic pilot
Second gen is where the hype should be
worn ember
Augmented reality is the shit
gloomy sphinx
I setup the oculus dev kit 2 at my work and got minecraft working. its sick as heck but all you nerds will develop an addiction and soon this discord will be empty
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I can see our future now
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minecraft vr
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augmented reality will get so real people will literally become furries
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kill me now
worn ember
You will die in winter
acoustic pilot
gloomy sphinx
vr is very mindless
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and whatever gross fantasies are out there
fleet osprey
sadly that's already happening spottedleaf
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now I can punch trees irl
gloomy sphinx
i was stuck in vr for 6 hours at work and it felt like 1 hour
pulsar wigeon
according to some random gist of hashes online, that is actually just an h2 jar
not sure why someone decided to send it over discord tho
golden gust
ye, an rembr
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idk
gloomy sphinx
what does an h2 jar do
golden gust
if you jump off a cliff, if you land in the shallow water, ull be gud
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.g h2 java
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gloomy sphinx
o well not my problem anyway
ill just tell him it is ok if you downloaded it from spigot
but if you didnt...
pulsar wigeon
i mean i would never download anything from spigot personally
seems like a bad idea imo
ew is that a premium plugin too
buying shitty plugins LUL
golden gust
but is premium!
pulsar wigeon
i love the idea that because someone is charging money for it, it must be good
worn ember
I'm premium, but you have the honor of talking to me for free
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if u were premium u'd be $-10.5
pulsar wigeon
man i'm gonna fork worldedit and sell it
wait imma wait for ironapollo to fix his shit, fork that, then sell it
perfect
golden gust
It's not "premium" if it's fallen off the shelf and people have forgot about it
Sorry DED
gloomy sphinx
lets fork paper and sell it with better pvp faction features for $200
worn ember
no u dead
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mr i got 2 brain cells
gloomy sphinx
$500?
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quiet mr burnt leaf conrete man
gloomy sphinx
.lart spottedleaf
limber knotBOT
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u can't even spell correctly
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conrete.hasStarte
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ur gonna hasEnde soon
worn ember
@golden gust secretly you love me ❤
gloomy sphinx
concrete.jerBers
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ur the 1 who can't read or type
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ur bad
golden gust
ye, sur, watever lets u slep at nite
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mad cuz bad
worn ember
kinky
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"I know
I am mostly dont using the legacy date apis though
progress"
literally can't speak english
worn ember
German is where it's at
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alright fuck off
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cosmic raft
oh it's a menu item
austere ivy
I actually laughed out loud thanks Billy
slim nymph
@golden gust ill get 1.12, need to fix corruption code anyways
golden gust
Ah, kk
slim nymph
but yeah i just reviewed every timing, nothing in paper is unclosed, so can only happen in the case you found, an exception
and we know how much peoples plugins love to blow up
golden gust
Yea, that was was a pretty easy catch, plugins are going to be even more fun, especially if they're hooking into weird places \o/
Planning to search up the stack to see if one was unpopped or something?
slim nymph
no, i messed up on printing 'last', and re-added it back, but thinking on it i shouldnt be re-adding it, i should pop until i find self
and then print the ones that shouldnt of been on stack as they are the culprit
golden gust
^^
slim nymph
wtf is this Item class got 4 lambdas on an interface with no method
cosmic raft
@slim nymph stripped, as the method is only used on the client
slim nymph
i see a major performance boost for plugins, gonna have to fix that damn Item class though decompile
to move the 4 NMS <-> Bukkit maps to use EnumMap/ArrayList so they are constant time maps
cosmic raft
which maps?
slim nymph
CraftMagicNumbers 74~
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those aren't enummaps?
slim nymph
nope, 2 of them arent enum keyd, but ima move them to integer keys
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eh enum map for enums will do better :>
cosmic raft
BLOCK_MATERIAL and ITEM_MATERIAL can be IdentityHashMaps
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what're the types for those
cosmic raft
private static final Map<Block, Material> BLOCK_MATERIAL = new HashMap<>();
private static final Map<Item, Material> ITEM_MATERIAL = new HashMap<>();
private static final Map<Material, Item> MATERIAL_ITEM = new HashMap<>();
private static final Map<Material, Block> MATERIAL_BLOCK = new HashMap<>();
screw that, gonna use arraylist/enummap
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that'll be a guaranteed O(1) lookup
pulsar wigeon
1 is constant :P
cosmic raft
private static final Map<Block, Material> BLOCK_MATERIAL = new java.util.IdentityHashMap<>();
private static final Map<Item, Material> ITEM_MATERIAL = new java.util.IdentityHashMap<>();
private static final Map<Material, Item> MATERIAL_ITEM = new java.util.EnumMap<>(Material.class);
private static final Map<Material, Block> MATERIAL_BLOCK = new java.util.EnumMap<>(Material.class);
less code changes to maintain by just changing the implementations
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2 is constant too
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velcro
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2 ur literally retarded
get fucking velcro already
oh you thought I was referring to ur braincells
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simmer down leafy
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tbh that would've been pretty clever
that's not my style though
as I was typing identity has the smallest diff but it's a very easy one to maintain if you want an array lookup
I'd suggest an array tbh :>
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idk i like the array idea
cosmic raft
I'll be sure to point to that the next time we get a PR with a huge diff
slim nymph
yeah im saying ill take the diff
upper flicker
plenty of other code you could point to
cosmic raft
I also love md_5:
for (Block block : (Iterable<Block>) IRegistry.BLOCK) { // Eclipse fail
It's not an eclipse fail, it's because the registries implement net.minecraft.server.Registry:
public interface Registry extends Iterable {
which has no generic
so of course it's Object
not an eclipse fail
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public interface IRegistry<T> extends Registry<T> {?
oh it doesn't
that's mojang fail
cosmic raft
no it's not
golden gust
That's the decompiler
cosmic raft
it's stripped by proguard
golden gust
or that
cosmic raft
it's unused in this case, as the generic is only used by the classes themselves
as the methods defined in the Registry interface are only used via the impl classes, they're stripped from the interface
and thus the generic becomes unused and stripped
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well that makes sense
valid root
slim nymph
ouch, CraftMagicNumbers takes over 4s to initialize
slim nymph
yep, that happens before this part
its spigots code that converts every damn legacy possibility to modern
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rip
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welp
slim nymph
there are still TODO's
acoustic pilot
The double message is pretty annoying, but I take it this is normal? https://i.imgur.com/ghI8FW9.png
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yes
first is msg stating the player is kicked
second is the reason they disconnected
also got ur serbur ip
acoustic pilot
rip
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ye am dddos
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ur goin down
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its the minimum acceptable number of leaves that should be burning at any given point in time
in millions
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2
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3
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ur retarded
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ofc you want to hear 4
slim nymph
ping -s 64000 -i 0 127.0.0.1
PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) 64000(64028) bytes of data.
ping: cannot flood; minimal interval allowed for user is 200ms
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5
slim nymph
dang, blocked
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see how that works
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u want pity for ur 2 braincells
slim nymph
--- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
4387 packets transmitted, 4387 received, 0% packet loss, time 585ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.032/0.034/0.125/0.007 ms, ipg/ewma 0.133/0.036 ms
lol with root that goes fast
--- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
79044 packets transmitted, 79044 received, 0% packet loss, time 10204ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.031/0.033/0.225/0.007 ms, ipg/ewma 0.129/0.035 ms
took it like a champ
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if we combine our terminals we can do it
acoustic pilot
nope i has ddoze protecshun
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u also has cancer and retarded
acoustic pilot
no, am not a leaf
ancient bolt
going to sleep now, taking some melatonin
hopefully I can actually get some fucking sleep
austere ivy
hurr durr hi
how do I pregen paper chunks
is there an in-built way, and if not what plugin do you guys recommend?
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use a for loop
there's probably a trillion plugins out there that'll do it fine :>
.g pregen spigot
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fuck off
austere ivy
I need 1.12.2
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idk use worldborder
austere ivy
biomebundle is only 1.12.2
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apparently everyone else does
austere ivy
worldborder doesn't pregen??
and the original bukkit plugin died
nevermind
SHOOT
IT'S A MOD
upper flicker
all I ever hear about is people using worldborder
golden gust
Worldborder is a fill command
austere ivy
not /worldborder
golden gust
Yea
acoustic pilot
Is there a proper way to detect whether Paper is configured to run behind Bungee (specifically Bungee or a fork, not any other proxy impl)?
In a plugin
austere ivy
haha okay thanks folks
golden gust
You can access the config file in Paper and check the bungee setting
acoustic pilot
Yeah, can see I can do that with Bukkit.getServer().spigot().getSpigotConfig(), was thinking maybe there was a more proper way.
Thanks
ancient bolt
Why don't we have Bukkit.getServer().spigot().paper().getPaperConfig()
That's the real question
golden gust
Not really, that's the only indicator that the server itself has, unless you was to modify incoming connections in some way
lol
That looks beautiful
jolly violet
player.getUniqueId
world.getUid
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2750#getActiveBrainCells
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SpottedLeaf.ban("Conrete is trash")
jolly violet
yeah you would make a method with a single string parameter and no ability to add duration or anything else
good going zach
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all bans are permanent
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.trashed
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thats fine with me
jolly violet
conrete btw
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because that was the biggest issue with this topic
jolly violet
world.setBlock
tile entity? set to air. 
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🙄
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so how is your voxelsniper knock off coming
jolly violet
it's been finished for a while
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shit tier design will drive that plugin into the ground
jolly violet
it's on a server
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onrete
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most of the time you can literally leave inlining to the jit
upper flicker
that was a feature for android
jolly violet
no inlining is to make a million copies of the code so it's all over the damn place
upper flicker
dexxxxx files bb
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I don't even want to imagine the cancer you get from declaring an api function inline
jolly violet
what
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and if I know ur fucking ass u have
jolly violet
??? it's a single method and lets me not copy/paste lol
i can terraform water
but the video got cut off on 3 sides
resolution something
i'll make a new video
what song should i play loudly in the background
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api functions shouldn't be inline since they get inlined at compile time
so if you make a change it doesn't go through
jolly violet
bruh
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what am I talking about u don't design apis
acoustic pilot
At what stage of the Spigot login process is Bungee's ServerConnectedEvent fired?
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.g ServerConnectedEvent bungee
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fuck off
acoustic pilot
Oh, I think it's before the entire login process
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* a connection to a server is fully operational, and is about to hand over
* control of the session to the player. It is useful if you wish to send
* information to the server before the player logs in.```
orchid pelican
is it better to make a functiuon rarely used abstract or just override a dummy method when needed?
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wtf
slim nymph
1s instead of 4s if skip all the legacy crap
jolly violet
this is a video of me beating WE schematics with a crusty dildo from 1922 and spitting in its eyes
pulsar wigeon
congrats on your newfound fame
orchid pelican
coding is meditating
pulsar wigeon
waiting for the bleach to do its job?
jolly violet
so what is your impression when a company says that they "felt positively" about me
is that "good but not great"
or is it "you suck and now I have HIV from talking to you"
acoustic pilot
yes
sour charm
slim nymph
you know, plugins in compatability mode hurt even more when thgey do this... https://github.com/EssentialsX/Essentials/blob/3856a690ebede1abe8b1e8e1bb833e1d97393d68/Essentials/src/com/earth2me/essentials/utils/LocationUtil.java#L101
.getType() is not a getter, and in legacy plugins is REALLY heavy 😐 @spiral garden yall really need to extract to a local variable, only call it once
gloomy sphinx
who even uses essentialsx
slim nymph
prob most servers in existence
cosmic raft
most generic servers*
slim nymph
saying it didnt need a 'correction' 😛
gloomy sphinx
🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
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am clueless inform me
LUL
ok likely not getting inlined
try it anyways
err cached
gloomy sphinx
how many 5 hour energies does it take to run empire?
slim nymph
all of them
return CraftLegacy.toLegacyMaterial(((CraftBlock) block).getNMS());```it first has to take the CraftBlock and get the NMS IBlockData
slim nymph
return toLegacy(blockData).getItemType();```when will kashikecraft be open??
slim nymph
then gets the Legacy Material
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remind me in 30 mins to dump asm aikar
cosmic raft
kashikecraft
slim nymph
public static MaterialData toLegacy(IBlockData blockData) {
MaterialData mappedData;
// Try exact match first
mappedData = dataToMaterial.get(blockData);
// Fallback to any block
if (mappedData == null) {
mappedData = blockToMaterial.get(blockData.getBlock().internalId);
}
return (mappedData == null) ? new MaterialData(Material.LEGACY_AIR) : mappedData;
}```don't foget about commodore rewrites too
i dont know if commodore shows up in stacks or not?
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doesn't matter to me I'll be inspecting the x86 asm
limber knotBOT
I plead the fizzif
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although I'd hardly expect calls made between virtual function calls to be cached so it's best practice to cache that shit explicitly anyways
austere ivy
what's that
upper flicker
kinda looks like you stole my server u fuk
cosmic raft
alternatively,
cosmic raft
10.69.25.69
upper flicker
there are ones of quality ideas in here
cosmic raft
?
austere ivy
it just leaves me on "Connecting to the server..."
cosmic raft
good
austere ivy
do I have a virus
upper flicker
kash has secret court orders to fulfill on behalf of the nsa
he cant be helping you with ur winders viruses
austere ivy
nice
gloomy sphinx
can someone tell me how a plugin dev is able to send the client achievement messages like that
jolly violet
packets
gloomy sphinx
o
jolly violet
you can do anything with packets
gloomy sphinx
i heard those a not fun to mess with
jolly violet
they’re fun, i use them for many things
austere ivy
teach me aero
I've always wondered those things
but I have 0 knowledge of networking like that
like actually nitty gritty packet work
austere ivy
what
orchid pelican
ugh i finally switched all my menus from my old system to another
true orchid
sonic scarab
gloomy sphinx
unsure if I am playing minesweeper or editing settings in epicspawners
cosmic raft
mfw "ISIS" model name
orchid pelican
has anyone made a minesweepers in Minecraft?
vestal jasper
Populating M.2 slots disables SATA ports.
I guess that's why my SSD keeps refusing to initialize.
Now I'm wondering why it initializes 33% of the time when it shouldn't ever initialize to begin with.
gloomy sphinx
this is what happens when intel implements software limitations but those software limitations are buggy
vestal jasper
The motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports are disabled.
sounds like a hardware issue not software
gloomy sphinx
rip the m.2 slot shold be using pcie not sata
what motherboard is that
youll be maxed out at around 500MB so the m.2 will be no faster than a regular sata
vestal jasper
I've never seen a motherboard not have that message
gloomy sphinx
wot
no you can run multiple m.2 ssds with satas
since m.2 is suppose to be for nvme which runs on pcie lanes
thats how you get over 6Gb/s of speed
vestal jasper
M.2 can use either sata or pcie
gloomy sphinx
yes
vestal jasper
Depending on the mobo
gloomy sphinx
yes
but it should use the nvme protocol otherwise there is no difference between m.2 vs sata besides size
and most m.2 ssd's can read/write over 1000MB/s
vestal jasper
2 x M.2 connectors (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 SATA and PCIe x4/x2 SSD support) (M2M_32G) (M2A_32G)
1 x M.2 connector (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280 PCIe x4/x2 SSD support) (M2P_32G)```yeah and check the motherboard settings to see if you really can
What is with all these new anticheats
there are like 100x now
vestal jasper
Yeah I've noticed an interesting increase in anticheats on spigot
finite wave
They are super shit
gloomy sphinx
are they just skidded?
finite wave
It’s because of that “how to make an anti cheat”
vestal jasper
Well the SSD that advertises Read speeds up to 3,500MB/s has around 3.2GB/s read
My boot disk has around 1.8GB/s
gloomy sphinx
probably because it is using the sata protocol
vestal jasper
The boot disk advertises up to 2,500MB/s
vestal jasper
Not on windows and windows wouldn't have read or write access to 2 of the drives
spiral garden
@slim nymph noted, will talk with md to fix that
strange radish
orchid pelican
So when i create a lot of player heads from offline players it takes a noticeable amount of time to do it. Does it fetch the skin from a server ? Any way to speed this up ? It only lags on the first fetching as I assume it caches it
void void
caching proxy? 
void void
yeah that's one way
orchid pelican
I dont know if thats a good solution for that though
heady spear
@slim nymph plotsquared now has support for async generation :p
maiden rapids
red halo
wow giving priority to paper instead of spigot! tipped md_5!
wtf plotsquared has nukkit support
acoustic pilot
Cool.
NukkitX seems interesting, is that what a lot of Bedrock servers are using?
red halo
if they want plugins and not something written in php that runs slower lol
acoustic pilot
lol
void void
i wonder when md_5 joins here
heady spear
"wtf plotsquared has nukkit support" not really 😛
We also kind of have sponge support, but not really
acoustic pilot
He doesn't need to, he owns the network. He has the capacity to spy without any of us knowing lol
The IRC network, I mean
I just assume he's always listening. md_5 seems like that kind of petty fuck face.
void void
tru
green edge
is general synced to irc though?
finite wave
Yes
vestal jasper
discord stop freezing and crashing please my changes weren't even that risky
Oh
It kept crashing because I didn't have the notification widget applied anywhere and apparently KDE just... halts the window until it can display the notification
heady spear
same
green edge
that's annoying
vestal jasper
Very
Also apparently the windows key and the + key makes my entire desktop zoom in
vestal jasper
Was a little startling seeing EVERYTHING just start zooming towards my cursor
I'm not that big a fan of gnome
vestal jasper
I beg to differ
heady spear
IRC might not be annoying, but the people in it sure are
carmine hinge
so
spigot has their own hashing algorithm
md5
we need to step up our game
can we make Z750 hashing algorithm
it'll be the next generation of hashing algorithm
orchid pelican
Well just flip the characters upside down
finite wave
@austere ivy On one side i’m against abortion cause, women gets a choice. On the other side you get to kill babies.
shell vine
vestal jasper
ok
limber knotBOT
You can't tag the bot
lavish lichen
does someone knows a better plugin besides OpenInv
limber knotBOT
well, what do you dislike about it?
lavish lichen
latest
lavish lichen
openjdk version "11.0.1" 2018-10-16
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 11.0.1+13-Ubuntu-3ubuntu3.18.10.1)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 11.0.1+13-Ubuntu-3ubuntu3.18.10.1, mixed mode, sharing)
lemme see, is 11 already disallowing all unsafe reflection access?
severe garnet
limber knotBOT
right, 12 is ga now
void void
someone should make a bot what gives direct gyazo urls instead of that shitty ad-infested "viewer" 😒
ornate spindle
I kinda miss https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/carbon.1258/
void void
why?
ornate spindle
1.7/1.8 are so efficient compared to 1.12/1.13
acoustic pilot
Carbon is a pretty decent reference for implementing 1.8 support directly into a 1.7 server.
Did it twice lol
ornate spindle
imagine implementing 1.8 -> 1.13 in a 1.7 server
void void
yeah i was planning to port carbon on my srg remapped paperspigot port
limber knotBOT
@void void [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
acoustic pilot
You'd have a 1.13-capable server that can hold 500+ players 😃
void void
but never got my hands on it
ornate spindle
ikr
acoustic pilot
After some optimizations, ofc.
void void
well probably won't be able to next 2-3months either
ornate spindle
as far as I know, carbon performed better than 1.8 did
acoustic pilot
I think the fork @somber mirage has developed over the years (which is 1.7 with 1.8 support built-in) can reach 1k
ornate spindle
on an E3?
acoustic pilot
No, on an i7
ornate spindle
7700k I assume?
void void
meh, i hope that someone's still interested in 1.7.10 enough to help me to port carbon changes on it directly :c
acoustic pilot
No, this was back in the 4
void void
well on srg remapped version
acoustic pilot
4790k, I mean
ornate spindle
damn, so it could probably support like 1.5k on current gen hardware
void void
could save a lot of time tbh
ornate spindle
I wonder why carbon 2 was cancelled
acoustic pilot
I gave up on my plans for the 1.7 with 1.8 built-in though, after I realized how abysmal plugin support is these days 😛
Pretty much all of your shit needs to be custom
Everything is so outdated support-wise for 1.7
ornate spindle
yeah true, pretty much the only way you could use public stuff is to use very old versions or use 1.8
acoustic pilot
Yeah, at least with a 1.8 server, plugin support is still pretty good, active and maintained
but I mean you could optimize a 1.8 server to hold lots of players too
It's just harder
ornate spindle
shame that 1.8 was rather inefficient to 1.7
acoustic pilot
And won't go as far
but if you're a server operator and you have 500 players on a single instance, you're basically printing money.
ornate spindle
unless your players don't spend money
acoustic pilot
Oh, sure, you'd have to monetize it.
If you have 500 players on a single instance, you most definitely can monetize it and make a lot of money.
As an example, creative servers are not easy to monetize
ornate spindle
I run one, I fucking hate it
acoustic pilot
But Edawg was a good example of that.
500 players on a single instance
Back in its prime
And the server was rolling in money
With like 5 TPS avg lol
ornate spindle
I remember I was fighting against him, then he just randomly grew hundreds of players in a few days
acoustic pilot
But now it's just a dead nothing
void void
@lavish lichen use java 8 sdk same
ornate spindle
aren't they at <100 players now
ornate spindle
oof 9 players rn
void void
java 11 still not support gradle or maven
golden gust
I read it fine
acoustic pilot
Hard to imagine if you were around during its prime
golden gust
Should I commit sudoku?
void void
yes
vestal jasper
This person consistently talks like this
ornate spindle
yeah it was at 800 once, though pretty sure he started to cap it at 500
vestal jasper
It makes me want to uninstall
acoustic pilot
Yeah, he wasn't able to ever optimize the server. It was perpetually at 3-5TPS lol
ornate spindle
likely because of the chunk ticking
acoustic pilot
Speaking of OG servers...
Apparently Gontroller is making a return.
Pretty much no hype though. A little too late for them 😛
acoustic pilot
I hadn't even heard of 2b2t until like last year lol
acoustic pilot
There are still a few servers around from the 2014 days though that I remember.
But they're mostly dying.
Or pretty much dead already.
lavish lichen
im currently making a Offline Inventory vieuwer for 1.13.2 for paper
btw is it normal when i use /locate <name>
that the server has a small lagg spike
ornate spindle
haven't heard gontroller in ages, I actually only just discovered a few hours ago that lavacraft shut down
no clue when it did
sly summit
ancient bolt
so I went to sleep at a normal time
and it was super easy to wake up this morning
and I'm not super tired
I know that I'll crash mid-day like I always do
but this is nice
lavish lichen
openinv looks like a pain 
void void
your problem might be that you're using java 11
:p
as plugin fails to set final field
fallen oracle
Alrighty so, Article 13 just passed, thoughts?
shell vine
openinv works fine for me
void void
it passed?
shell vine
yea i dont think 11 is supported yet for spigot ?
quasi valley
I always wondered why so many people were still voting for conservatives in Ger
but now they messed up big time
worldly condor
my boot usb files are broken so now i am trying to delete all shit and then redo the usb with a newer windows
because that one inside is from 2017
and i had a bunch of updates when i was adding my ssd to my pc
lavish lichen
welp @void void fml
Could not resolve dependencies for project com.lishid:openinvadapter1_4_5:jar:3.3.8-SNAPSHOT: Could not find artifact org.bukkit:craftbukkit:jar:1.4.5-R1.0 in spigot-repo (https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/groups/public/)
lavish lichen
Could not find artifact org.spigotmc:spigot:jar:1.13-R0.1-SNAPSHOT in papermc (https://papermc.io/repo/repository/maven-public/)
merry talon
limber knotBOT
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merry talon
oh jeez cafebabe and discord embed
limber knotBOT
spigot is not in public repositorys, only the api is
worldly condor
@slim nymph if no one of the bulgarian devs comment on the PR what ?
limber knotBOT
if you need the implementation use buildtools to add it to your local repository
or build paper and add replace spigot with paper :D
worldly condor
1.13 doesnt have ids
lavish lichen
that makes sense
worldly condor
i mean
material ids
if you have a look at the materials you won't see ids in 1.13
mojang just got rid of these
limber knotBOT
string ids are also ids :D
1.13 just does not have those numeric ids
it's finally complete https://i.imgur.com/ScPdjwn.jpg
slim nymph
rdiff-backup
merry talon
I switched from rdiff-backup to restic
I like the snapshot model
it's missing a few features though, not sure if I'll stick with it
worldly condor
and these are my new jars
limber knotBOT
Are you building from source?
I thought ffmpeg was known for reimplementing everything on their own so it wouldn't have that many dependencies
On the other hand if you're installing a debian package they split it up in to a bunch of pieces
austere ivy
Nope.
I'm installing from Homebrew.
So I mean I guess so? But it takes a while to install haha.
Also Aikar, what was that one script that auto-backed up the server with diff?
rdiff
cedar spade
@slim nymph What lookups are skipped for api-version: 1.13?
EssentialsX core is api-version: 1.13 so doesn't use Spigot's compat mode
Also iirc the majority of that method predates 1.13 or was part of the initial bringup
worldly condor
RIP
the eu parlament has approved article 13
RIP free internet in EU 1991 - 2019
worldly condor
its not
austere ivy
we can finally cut europeans off from any americans
worldly condor
everyone on yt will become vlogger
austere ivy
keep them from stealing the good memes
worldly condor
you wont be able to use Intellij community
worldly condor
you wont be able to use OBS
worldly condor
yep
worldly condor
free software such as OBS will be illegal
austere ivy
Wait hold on what?
wide chasm
wut
austere ivy
But it'll stay open in America right?
cedar spade
No, it won't, what are you on
austere ivy
Like what?
I'm confused. I thought article 13 was saying that copyright is a lot stronger.
Basically you can get sued and anything using someone else's work is illegal.
Not.. open source?
austere ivy
that's not the same as not being able to use obs..
worldly condor
they will remove it
literally everything that you can't approve that is yours will be deleted from the internet
austere ivy
how's that apply to IntelliJ community
wide chasm
The main gist is that websites need to automatically filter and block stuff that might be against copyright.
wide chasm
No, it doesn't.
austere ivy
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) What’s up with Article13? Why did it pass and why is this bad? : OutOfTheLoop - 147 comments, 853 points - AutisticMarsupial, 1h ago
austere ivy
That's not a huge thing..
The law effectively shifts the burden from copyright holders to those hosting the content. Meaning instead of having to manually dig through webpage and flag when they find their copyrighted material, the website is expected to self monitor and proactively remove any copyright content.
worldly condor
month or 2 ago google showed how google will look like if they approve the dirrective
austere ivy
end quote
Thing is, yeah but like
that's not obs and stuff like that
it's just instead of copyright being from the company's place, it's YouTube's
which was already happening with songs.
wide chasm
YouTube already has their Content-ID system and, well, that doesn't really work.
austere ivy
Biggest issue is:
"Large sites like reddit or twitter or youtube see hundreds of hours of content added per minute. It would literally be impossible to prescreen everything under current systems. The only logical outcome is these sites tyrannically change what it allowed on their sites and how its monitors uploads OR they will pull out of the effected regions entirely."
Yeah I got copyrighted myself.
For using the communist anthem thing.
In a Minecraft song, because it was a texture pack.
cedar spade
It doesn't stop you using free software in the slightest
wide chasm
The problem is that now the burden is on all ends. Websites will have to monitor stuff, but that won't catch everything, so copyright holders still need to flag stuff when they find it. And users uploading have to take initiative and tell websites that their content is fine and then it has to be manually reviewed by people from that website. At that point everyone is doing work.
austere ivy
Essentially, completely useless.
heady spear
wide chasm
Well "completely useless" - we now all have to do more work, so it does something 😃
heady spear
Many online platforms will not be affected
The text also specifies that uploading works to online encyclopedias in a non-commercial way, such as Wikipedia, or open source software platforms, such as GitHub, will automatically be excluded from the scope of this directive. Start-up platforms will be subject to lighter obligations than more established ones.
wide chasm
This article disagrees with that statement: "The drafters of Article 13 have tried to carve Wikipedia out of the rule, but thanks to sloppy drafting, they have failed: the exemption is limited to "noncommercial activity". Every file on Wikipedia is licensed for commercial use." (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/06/eus-copyright-proposal-extremely-bad-news-everyone-even-especially-wikipedia)
slim nymph
@cedar spade oh i thought it ran in legacy mode to support older versions? but .getType() does do a chunk lookup (inthashmap but also a last access cache will keep repeated lookups free as long as another chunk didnt get looked up in between getType) + a map lookup in the chunk object itself
cedar spade
To support older version, EssX does string lookups for enums and wraps 1.13 API in try/catches or separate classes
austere ivy
Aikar do you know of any bash type script that'll auto-backup my server with diff?
rdiff
I was trying to hassle with rdiff-backup trying to install it
Then I realized I could just use Homebrew 😅
crimson lodge
void void
weren't you like 12 or something?
fallen oracle
A tip would not be asking here, you should go out and explore where to start on your own
Else you'll always dpeend on others
wide chasm
afaik it still needs to go through one layer and then be integrated into every nation's law book things.
fallen oracle
Ive heard not much will happen for awhile though
austere ivy
I’m happy for article 13
Means that they can’t steal our memes
Filthy Europeans!! >:(
unreal quarry
Idk how their thing works. I can't comprehend the idea that a continent overules it's countries. That'd be like Mexico and Canada outvoting USA on something and USA having to comply lol
wide chasm
Your memes?! Those are protected by copyright!
pulsar wigeon
have you never heard of NATO billy?
pulsar wigeon
well not much sense trying to explain anything then
seems like you'd rather just not understand
austere ivy
That’s a great mindset wiz
If someone doesn’t understand or know something, don’t bother explaining it
wide chasm
afaik the idea is that EU makes a law and then everyone needs to add that law themselves as well.
unreal quarry
He's probably still mad at me because I mentioned him in a message to him, brian /shrug
austere ivy
I’m not sure what nato is either Billy
pulsar wigeon
did you guys know that states have their own legislatures?
did you guys know that there's still FEDERAL LAWS???
like OMG!?
pulsar wigeon
there's plenty of countries in europe who aren't in the EU (ok like only a handful to be real)
unreal quarry
What's EU then? Cause I was told it's a continent..
wide chasm
Europe is a continent, EU is the European Union.
pulsar wigeon
european union
austere ivy
your face is a continent
pulsar wigeon
bunch of countries that make agreements together
austere ivy
That’s what Brexit is
unreal quarry
Well, that puts things into perspective. Don't mind me ^_^
worldly condor
@pulsar wigeon the countries that aren't in eu are switzerland, norway, Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Turkey and some of the west balkan countries which are candidates to join the eu
quasi valley
theyve been banished onto a cold rainy island
austere ivy
aww so grown up
pulsar wigeon
i wasn't asking
wide chasm
"I'm outta here" - Britain
worldly condor
ik
acoustic pilot
saying the EU is a continent is like saying the USA is a continent 😛
worldly condor
just saying you that they aren't that much as u think
unreal quarry
I always thought EU was the continent, and UN was the union. I'm just a dumb american, though, so ignore me ;)
wide chasm
UN is United Nations that contains a lot more than just EU.
pulsar wigeon
UN is an entirely separate org that isn't europe specific
it's also useless but
cough
acoustic pilot
UN is basically toothless
It has no real power
EU as a regulatory body very much has a lot of power.
pulsar wigeon
UN is a bunch of politicians. EU is a bunch of lawmakers. lul.
limber knotBOT
the UN is still important tho
pulsar wigeon
yes, an important facade
acoustic pilot
^
pulsar wigeon
and following rules
cold idol
Article 13 passed.
pulsar wigeon
tbf the humanitarian parts of the UN do some good work
wide chasm
@cold idol Doesn't it need to go through one layer more?
limber knotBOT
UN also has IMG, WHO etc
limber knotBOT
its still important to have a place where all of humanity comes together
limber knotBOT
and I mean, UN also has the blue helmets
wide chasm
Doesn't UN basically have everyone except for like four, five countries?
unreal quarry
@wide chasm from cnn The vote Tuesday paves the way for the bill to become law once it has been endorsed by the European Council, which represents the bloc's member states. The European Council has said it will approve the measure, but implementation will take two years.
wide chasm
The news source I used said, it needs to go through one layer, but that will pretty much happen.
limber knotBOT
its like always, once thru the council the implementation in the member states takes up to 2 years, then you get sued by the commission because you implemented it wrongly, further delaying stuff
until then, we already have a new parliment
wide chasm
Either way, whether it needs to go through one additional layer or not, it will happen.
acoustic pilot
the EU as a regulatory body is going to end up isolating populations and pushing people further towards deregulation with their crazy over-the-top bullshit lol
unreal quarry
Inb4 every major tech company blocks EU. The great wall of EU \o/
wide chasm
EU does good stuff, but article 13 is complete bs.
acoustic pilot
EU represents a market of half a billion people, tech companies wouldn't dare.
If tech companies are willing to cave to the Chinese government in order to do business in China, which is definitely stricter, then they'll adapt to whatever rules the EU puts out.
But at least with the EU, they have the tools to fight back, unlike in China.
pulsar wigeon
wait what do we mean by tech companies here
in general, article 13 affects media companies a lot more than tech tbh
worldly condor
another american ....................
limber knotBOT
another european ............................
wide chasm
A new EU law that states that websites allowing for uploading of user content, a filter should be implemented which blocks stuff that possibly infringes copyright. Probably some other things as well, but that seems to be the main idea.
acoustic pilot
Some EU member states barely even have the capacity to enforce GDPR
This seems like it'll be toothless.
gloomy warren
don't forget the shitty license stuff
wide chasm
How does that work?
acoustic pilot
"American" is a nationality.
limber knotBOT
everybody migrated from africa
wide chasm
I'm pretty certain that if you migrate to America, you are an American.