#general | PaperMC | Page 29

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 1:39 AM

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yes you are suppose to do that

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good

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:39 AM

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can someone explain supplying an InventoryHolder with a inventory inside it and supplying that to bukkit#createInventory?

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that doestn make sense

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why would i create an inv and then use that to create an inv

carmine hinge Mar 25, 2019, 1:40 AM

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I will take it out and clean it later I need to study for my physics exam tomorrow ;-;

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:40 AM

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grr spgiot api

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 1:40 AM

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at least clean the bottom for now

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so your parakeets dont turn into bbq chicken

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:41 AM

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@void void can you explain that ?

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:44 AM

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the holder is mainly to represent something that "has an inventory". You can just pass a null holder, and it will just be an inventory that is not owned. InventoryHolder#getInventory is just a getter -- that's it. It's just defined by InventoryHolder, so you can either make your inventory there or you can pass it into the class you're implementing InventoryHolder in and simply return it there.

Bukkit#createInventory is just how you make a new inventory. You can specify a holder, or not, and it will work either way. I am not sure how it works if you have a holder that specifies its own getInventory(), which you then pass to Bukkit.createInventory, or why you would want to do it that way.

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Just add a setInventory() to your holder and set the inventory after it's been created.

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:45 AM

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What I do when using a holder is use createInventory() in InventoryHolder#getInventory, then when I need a new instance of that inventory I either use an instance i already have or make a new one

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:45 AM

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I need to implement it to store some stuff about my GUIS

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:45 AM

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that works as well

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:45 AM

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i saw in a spgiot thread that that is a misuse of the api but that seems like bs

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because theres no other way to do it

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:45 AM

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i mean yeah it's not what that class was designed for but it works great 😛

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:45 AM

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besides loook at titles

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:45 AM

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It is BS. InventoryHolder is the only sane and proper way to make GUIs.

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:46 AM

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exactly

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:46 AM

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(In agreement, it's BS.)

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:46 AM

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so when i implement i need to create the inv there

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:46 AM

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The class however, according to convos I've had, wasn't designed for that. I'm glad it exists though 😂

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Just add that to pile of shit md_5 doesn't know shit about.

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:46 AM

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or can i leave the getter returning null

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 1:47 AM

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what is md_5's biggest mistake

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:47 AM

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creating spgiot

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:47 AM

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https://hastebin.com/vatifoyiru.java

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Chase, there

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:47 AM

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IIRC, getInventory() on your holder shouldn't be returning null.

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:48 AM

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ok so what inventory do i supply it lol

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when i use it to create an inv

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:48 AM

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The inventory you created.

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:48 AM

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lol

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wtf lol

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 1:48 AM

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That's the stance that md has on InventoryHolder, Paper has restored it's functionality for createInventory on a few methods, and will restore it if/when spigot drop it

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:48 AM

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you can make an inv with a null holder like I said, and pass that, OR you can make it in getInventory and pass this as the owning holder.

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:48 AM

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ohhhh

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:48 AM

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or you can just not pass one in, keep it null, and use a setter

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:48 AM

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ok that makes sense

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:48 AM

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like byte suggested

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 1:48 AM

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📎 unknown.png

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 1:49 AM

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(Basically, you can't specify an InventoryType in spigot anymore if you want a InventoryHolder)

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Create holder, pass to createInventory(), setInventory() on the holder with the inventory that was just created.

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:49 AM

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and the inv will use the one the inventoryHolder has and if it is null it will create and pass one

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:49 AM

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could do yes

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:49 AM

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ok thanks

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Since your Holder will exist before your inventory is actually created, you need to set is after.

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:50 AM

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also Byte, saw your convo on ptero with Parker

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was pretty funny

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:50 AM

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What?

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:50 AM

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re docker-in-docker

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it was old, just saw it earlier tho

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Oh

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Yeah he doesn't know the difference between dind and the concept of "docker-in-docker"

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:51 AM

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well im fully behind you with the volume idea, he totally went off about it tho lmao

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:51 AM

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@golden gust what methods have they dropped it for? Can i still use it as a identifier for users running spgiot?

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and not paper?

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Yes, just don't use the methods that take an InventoryType

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:51 AM

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ok ye i only need the default chest

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 1:51 AM

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and note that spigot seems to be in the stance of removing that API in the future

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:51 AM

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GUIs are made up of PLAYER inventory types always, any way, aren't they?

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 1:52 AM

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CraftInventoryCustom or something like that

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:52 AM

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i think its a CHEST

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Really, why are they removing it cat

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Yeah double chest

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Uses the chest type to the client

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"it's not intentional usage of the API" basically

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:52 AM

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lol

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Or whatever size you specify, but yeah underlying type is probably chest.

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:52 AM

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well its very useful

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Not like you can make a gui out of an anvil inv

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:52 AM

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and will break hundreds of plugins

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:53 AM

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I would love to see the day he breaks that

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and forces all plugins to do title validation

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:53 AM

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i actually use an anvil for playe rinput

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Welcome to the land of stupid breakages for no reason while not breaking the API for sane reasons, woooo

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:53 AM

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With Paper creeping up behind Spigot on adoption, it will just be another sticking point.

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:53 AM

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thing is spigot gets released before paper and i like to update on launch as quick as i can

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:54 AM

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"Use Paper, we support GUIs!"

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:54 AM

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LOL

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Not a hard sell.

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Depends on how large the changes are and how fast one of us can get to it, but generally we're on it pretty fast

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Even faster if spigot actually releases sources early

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:55 AM

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So on Spigot as long as a variant of createInventory() which doesn't accept an InventoryType is used, it still works, yeah?

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 1:55 AM

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yup

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:55 AM

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And Paper has a patch to make it work regardless of inventory type?

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 1:56 AM

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yup, if you pass an InventoryHolder it will assume that you're intending to use the holder and don't want an nms backed inventory (where it exists)

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Cool, makes sense.

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:56 AM

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I'm actually horrified that they're doing that solely because they don't like how it's being used 😢

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BoiGifFixed

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:56 AM

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That's how he is.

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:56 AM

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its so dumb

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 1:56 AM

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BadDecisions5

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:56 AM

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He's an ass.

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 1:58 AM

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wen paper custom api

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 1:59 AM

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Worst case, Spigot-targeted plugins can use reflection to modify the inventory with the correct holder?

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 2:00 AM

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slowwww

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worst case we just dont update and skip spgiot and only use paper

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my server personally runs MARGINALY better on paper

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Nope, as the impl based inventories are hooked up to TEs internally where possible

peak dirge Mar 25, 2019, 2:01 AM

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While I think it’s certainly bearable to have 100MB+ large hello world applications in 2018, it’s just weak if I can have a 6MB Go binary.

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🤣

void void Mar 25, 2019, 2:01 AM

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the async chunk loading is nice owo

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 2:02 AM

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if i keep the same config and run spgiot with the same players the tps drops in a lot of cases where on paper its solid 20 tps

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we pregen so its not async chunk

void void Mar 25, 2019, 2:03 AM

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yeah that's what we notice as well, though we don't have as many players as some

carmine hinge Mar 25, 2019, 2:03 AM

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@gloomy sphinx I'm leaving it unplugged

void void Mar 25, 2019, 2:03 AM

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what we mostly noticed though is that more players can get on, and it still maintains 20

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Oh yeah @peak dirge what do you use for sampling on OpenJ9?

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 2:04 AM

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same thing for us

peak dirge Mar 25, 2019, 2:04 AM

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YourKit works on OpenJ9

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Ah, just not my outdated version then 😛

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My YourKit is from an old OSS license so that one didn't work right

peak dirge Mar 25, 2019, 2:04 AM

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I know the latest 2018 version does

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 2:05 AM

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@acoustic pilot is it bad giving my InventoryHolder the player object its ganna be used on?

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 2:05 AM

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Mine's from like 2017 lol

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You can give your InventoryHolder whatever data you want

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 2:05 AM

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yep ok thanks

peak dirge Mar 25, 2019, 2:06 AM

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@acoustic pilot Official support for OpenJ9 came in 2019.1: https://www.yourkit.com/changes/yjp_2019_1.jsp

YourKit Java Profiler - Performance and Memory Java Profiler by Yo...

Java profiler

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Ah, nice.

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Need to get me a renewed OSS license 😛

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At some point...

peak dirge Mar 25, 2019, 2:07 AM

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I have a personal use license, mainly because I use it on projects that are not OSS

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 2:07 AM

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For now I wonder if I can use VisualVM

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Doesn't seem to come distributed with VisualVM like Oracle JDK does, assuming licensing issue or just not supported

peak dirge Mar 25, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Yay, free upgrade. I renewed June last year.

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 2:09 AM

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With the personal license, you still get to keep access to older versions, right?

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Even after it expires

peak dirge Mar 25, 2019, 2:10 AM

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I think so, it's basically a three-seat license

static badge Mar 25, 2019, 2:10 AM

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what is the advantage of openj9 over hotspot

peak dirge Mar 25, 2019, 2:11 AM

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OpenJ9 uses less memory, has a quicker startup time, and allows you to use AOT compilation for even faster startup times.

static badge Mar 25, 2019, 2:12 AM

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since it's from eclipse does it run malformed code?

peak dirge Mar 25, 2019, 2:12 AM

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No, it's a fully compliant JVM implementation

ancient bolt Mar 25, 2019, 2:12 AM

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good lord when did seagate start selling 14TB drives 😮

static badge Mar 25, 2019, 2:13 AM

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monkaW

upper flicker Mar 25, 2019, 2:13 AM

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the last time i used seagate drives they were having all those bad batch issues

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but it seems like that goes around from manufacturer to manufacturer

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wonder what the reliability numbers are for everybody anymore

static badge Mar 25, 2019, 2:14 AM

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could you say it spins from manufacturer to manufacturer?

upper flicker Mar 25, 2019, 2:14 AM

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no

ancient bolt Mar 25, 2019, 2:15 AM

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the truth is modern HDDs are the most complex devices in a computer and are unbelievably hard to manufacture

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both WD and seagate have had their issues, but on the whole they are both reliable in general

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 2:15 AM

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@peak dirge The YourKit personal license isn't actually advertised on their purchase landing page. Seems to be hidden away somewhere, had to reach it from a Google search >_>

ancient bolt Mar 25, 2019, 2:16 AM

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but I would still never buy anything than WD Red for NAS drives because idk, brand loyalty? lol

peak dirge Mar 25, 2019, 2:17 AM

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@acoustic pilot They only really advertise around New Years

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Hm, weird strategy lol

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You can have as many agents running as you want, right? It's only limited by how many actual profiler instances you can run?

peak dirge Mar 25, 2019, 2:18 AM

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yes

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 2:19 AM

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Cool, thanks. Gonna probably get a license at some point. Don't need it now, but good to know the option is there. $99 for the personal license and a 40% discount for renewals sounds reasonable.

void void Mar 25, 2019, 2:23 AM

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the $99 is a discount they do once a year isn't it?

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 2:23 AM

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No it's the full cost of the Personal license.

void void Mar 25, 2019, 2:24 AM

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tf

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 2:24 AM

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And renewals are 40% off of that price

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But apparently they only advertise the personal license once a year

void void Mar 25, 2019, 2:24 AM

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ok i googled it

jolly heron Mar 25, 2019, 2:24 AM

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void void Mar 25, 2019, 2:25 AM

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i think i paid $500 one time

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 2:26 AM

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damn >_>

jolly violet Mar 25, 2019, 2:37 AM

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i'm vaginating

void void Mar 25, 2019, 2:46 AM

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👁 👄 👁

exotic hare Mar 25, 2019, 3:04 AM

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orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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when people ask what you do do you say you make minecraft plugins

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lol

upper flicker Mar 25, 2019, 3:16 AM

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I say I make tacos

jolly violet Mar 25, 2019, 3:16 AM

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i let old men touch me for $600

upper flicker Mar 25, 2019, 3:23 AM

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no aero

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just no

jolly violet Mar 25, 2019, 3:24 AM

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yea you right i dont

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 3:36 AM

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why is intellij fighting me

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I want to remove this * import

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It's respecting the settings in one class but in a near perfect clone of the class it keeps forcefully * importing

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There we go. That was annoyingly difficult.

stiff yarrow Mar 25, 2019, 3:46 AM

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@orchid pelican I literally can say that now LUL

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 3:46 AM

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why just now?

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like someone jsut asked you lol?

limber knotBOT Mar 25, 2019, 3:47 AM

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Byteflux: California accounted for 3/4 of new jobs in the whole united states for February.

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 3:49 AM

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@stiff yarrow i aksed that because literally 3 secconds earlier i said i make java plugins

stiff yarrow Mar 25, 2019, 3:51 AM

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no I meant I can say "I make Minecraft plugins" if someone asks what I do

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 3:51 AM

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i cant i dont have the balls to do that

stiff yarrow Mar 25, 2019, 3:53 AM

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what does it have to do with balls

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peepoGiga

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 3:53 AM

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minecraft isnt the most uhhh reputable game?

stiff yarrow Mar 25, 2019, 3:53 AM

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I don't know what you mean tbh

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maybe you're thinking too hard about what other people think

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weSmart

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 3:54 AM

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hell ye i am

stiff yarrow Mar 25, 2019, 3:55 AM

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I wouldn't even feel embarassed

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you just got to not care

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its like if they are gonna look down on you for making money off Minecraft then they probably aren't good people, so you shouldn't really care what they think imo

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 3:57 AM

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true

void void Mar 25, 2019, 4:13 AM

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just say game developer

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 4:21 AM

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I made 1 ios tweak so im just ganna say im a tweak developer

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unless they see im coding java

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at that point they have the respect to know what im actually doing lol

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:38 AM

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Man fucking what the fuck shit at that walking dead episode

cosmic raft Mar 25, 2019, 5:38 AM

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you still watch that shit?

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:39 AM

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Yeah it's still good :p

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That was a intense episode

cosmic raft Mar 25, 2019, 5:39 AM

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no it isn't lol

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:40 AM

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Rick leaving fixed my only real complaint I had about it

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They warned it was going to be a red wedding, wasn't joking :(

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There's a new show runner this season and she's owning it

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/spoiler does this work on mobile

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Nope

void void Mar 25, 2019, 5:54 AM

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||spoiler||

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:55 AM

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WARNING SPOILERS for tonight's walking dead ||https://io9.gizmodo.com/tonights-walking-dead-was-shocking-savage-and-utterly-1833478320/amp||

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Mobile doesn't render it prplz

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As in you can see it

cosmic raft Mar 25, 2019, 5:56 AM

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really? ||hi||

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📎 Screenshot_20190324-225643.png

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works fine

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:56 AM

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Oh why didn't prplz

cosmic raft Mar 25, 2019, 5:57 AM

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because it's in a code block

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lol

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:57 AM

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There fixed

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Read that link if you want to know what happened

void void Mar 25, 2019, 6:00 AM

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i was showing you the syntax for it

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😛

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 6:03 AM

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I knew the syntax just typing pipes on mobile isn't fun

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OK sleep time. Fucking hell that episode

void void Mar 25, 2019, 6:04 AM

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get that pipe

surreal moth Mar 25, 2019, 6:51 AM

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I'm sending request for test

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 7:04 AM

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I just realized I am running java 1.8 on my main nodes

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any performance improvements if I move up to the latest?

orchid pelican Mar 25, 2019, 7:13 AM

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The difference in size of my GUI controller using title verification and then using a custom inventoryHolder is actually insane

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 7:17 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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thonk

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 7:19 AM

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hnnggghhhaahhh

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 7:19 AM

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don't

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 7:19 AM

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Don't what

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 7:19 AM

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fuck asses with sticks

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 7:19 AM

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Oh

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Too many splinters?

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 7:20 AM

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yes

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 7:24 AM

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@upper flicker

📎 nsabackdoor.gif

wary crater Mar 25, 2019, 7:35 AM

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timber dust Mar 25, 2019, 7:43 AM

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vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 8:37 AM

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this other server's rules thonk

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thonk

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Imagine not being able to shitpost

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 8:38 AM

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this place would literally die

upper flicker Mar 25, 2019, 8:39 AM

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nou

static badge Mar 25, 2019, 8:39 AM

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no baiting of any form

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 8:39 AM

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I'm in the Hip-Hop Discord which is quite large, they recently just added similar rules.

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I think they might be partnered or something

static badge Mar 25, 2019, 8:39 AM

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must be :>

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 8:39 AM

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I plan on avoiding the server in question and all partnered servers

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 8:39 AM

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Imagine a hip hop community not being able to do those things.

upper flicker Mar 25, 2019, 8:40 AM

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no baiting? jesus what would leaf do all day

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 8:40 AM

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I'm not going to invest time in a community where I can be banned for acting normal

static badge Mar 25, 2019, 8:40 AM

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i'd figure out how to give u a 3rd braincell

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that way u'd have 8 states of existence

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 8:40 AM

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if baiting was a crime spotted leaf would be the fbi's most wanted

static badge Mar 25, 2019, 8:41 AM

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if being retarded was one u'd be locked up for life

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 8:41 AM

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good

static badge Mar 25, 2019, 8:41 AM

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monkaS

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 8:41 AM

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I wouldn't have to deal with your retarded ass

static badge Mar 25, 2019, 8:41 AM

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thonk

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 8:41 AM

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I guess the question is, what do you get for being partnered? There must be a lot to gain from it.

static badge Mar 25, 2019, 8:42 AM

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.g discord partners

limber knotBOT Mar 25, 2019, 8:42 AM

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(DiscordBot) https://discordapp.com/partners -- Discord - Partners: "Become a Discord Partner and brand your Discord server with a custom link and invite splash image. Oh yeah, there's a sweet Discord Partner hoodie..."

Discord

Become a Discord Partner - Exclusive Perks and Rewards

Become a Discord Partner and brand your Discord server with a custom link and invite splash image. Oh yeah, there's a sweet Discord Partner hoodie too.

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 8:42 AM

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~~The excuse to censor people without being questioned~~

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 8:42 AM

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"The toppest of the croppest of our partners will be promoted to premium status and get paid hard skrilla $$$."

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Ah, there it is.

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So it's basically the Discord equivalent of selling out.

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 8:43 AM

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yes

static badge Mar 25, 2019, 8:43 AM

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yeah

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 8:43 AM

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you get paid to advertise discord lul

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brilliant

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you kill the fun and enjoyment of everyone in your server and get paid while doing so

static badge Mar 25, 2019, 8:44 AM

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hm that might not be a good idea for them

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interesting to see how it'll play out

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strict-ass moderated servers promoting discord

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 8:46 AM

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Twitch Partnership pays off, right? I assume it'll be a similar situation. I'm also assuming Twitch imposes similar conduct requirements from their partners.

static badge Mar 25, 2019, 8:48 AM

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they don't go as far as restricting words like retarded

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 8:48 AM

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how retarded of them

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 9:01 AM

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what was that old irc for hardcore sys admin stuff computer server code that you hung out in a lot @acoustic pilot

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freenode right

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 9:05 AM

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I'm on Freenode, yes.

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Not sure how that's hardcore sys admin stuff but it's a good place to get programming help.

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I'm mostly "self-taught" over the past 15 years or so largely thanks to Freenode, in the days before Stack Overflow.

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There are also programming-related Discord servers these days which are really good, too.

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 9:07 AM

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discord is nice but i like the older dudes on irc

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 9:07 AM

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The Programmer's Hangout, The Coding Den and there's one just called Programming, all with thousands of online members each.

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 9:09 AM

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only problem with those are the kids straight out of college with a java fundimentals cert and nothing else

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pull out a macbook at starbux

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 9:09 AM

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HEY

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 9:09 AM

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maybe thats just me

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 9:09 AM

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macOS is best OS

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 9:09 AM

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but the old dudes are legit

static badge Mar 25, 2019, 9:10 AM

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macos is literally pure cancer

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 9:10 AM

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nou

quasi valley Mar 25, 2019, 9:10 AM

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so is windows

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 9:10 AM

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macos makes my HTML C0DE FEEL CLEAN

quasi valley Mar 25, 2019, 9:10 AM

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and linux 👀

static badge Mar 25, 2019, 9:10 AM

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and the fact people like it is retarded

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 9:10 AM

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arch btw

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 9:10 AM

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My arch partition is on the hdd which is currently on the floor somewhere

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 9:11 AM

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i am banned from most ircs because of this yet all i did was spoof my mac and chsnge my ip so who dafuq is ddosing in my ip range!

📎 Screenshot_20190325-020639_Firefox.jpg

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 9:11 AM

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single parition

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nice

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Have you tried not being a DDoS drone

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 9:11 AM

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Never really seen a pro for a seperate /home

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Just makes stuff a ballache when you find out that your gestimates were wrong

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 9:12 AM

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I dual parition because when I first installed arch my boot drive was only 128 GB

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Putting boot on the 128GB and home on a larger slower partition proved to be pretty reasonable at the time

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 9:12 AM

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i like a seperate /home for when i zeitch distros every week

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mobile discodd oscancer

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finger no do

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 9:13 AM

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I now get to witness my home drive failing to initialize every other boot

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Not sure why it's happening

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 9:13 AM

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throw the drive away

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 9:13 AM

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I avoid distro jumping, and hopping configs all over the place has been a ballache

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 9:13 AM

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But hot replugging it seems to fix the drive for the next boot

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 9:13 AM

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never heard of a ball ache

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 9:14 AM

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I know it still compiles, but so annoying lol https://i.imgur.com/X6X5jld.png

Imgur

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 9:14 AM

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I have some of my dot files on git, but some I can't really store on there because private stuff

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Yea, it's fucking ass

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 9:14 AM

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Reds up my shit

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 9:14 AM

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I tried to see if I could shut it up and failed 😦

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 9:14 AM

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Yeah not seeing any way to get IJ to shut up abotu it

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 9:15 AM

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what does getCubes do

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 9:15 AM

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It gets cubes

gloomy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 9:15 AM

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why is it a boolean

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 9:16 AM

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MCP probably has a better name fo rit

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 9:16 AM

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Not sure what it does nowadays, but back in the day getCubes() was for getting all the collision boxes for an entity

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Or something related to that

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Should check 1.8

gleaming rivet Mar 25, 2019, 9:48 AM

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Is it possible to set a wait on the start.sh script? my server starts so fast the ram can't follow along and is still in use when the server is being started again.

finite wave Mar 25, 2019, 9:49 AM

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Lol

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21620406/how-do-i-pause-my-shell-script-for-a-second-before-continuing

Stack Overflow

How do I pause my shell script for a second before continuing?

I have only found how to wait for user input. However, I only want to pause so that my while true doesn't crash my computer.

I tried pause(1), but it says -bash: syntax error near unexpected toke...

limber knotBOT Mar 25, 2019, 9:58 AM

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https://puu.sh/D54lN/2232452f02.png

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knai

finite wave Mar 25, 2019, 9:59 AM

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obligatory paperspigot

limber knotBOT Mar 25, 2019, 9:59 AM

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@finite wave [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

limber knotBOT Mar 25, 2019, 10:17 AM

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TIL our fancy NRP (new reverse proxy, duh) is configured via a 500 line long ant script

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kill me pls

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MiniDigger: y tho

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I don't know

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I don't even know what the reverse proxy does and why we don't use one of our f5 appliances or ha proxies or whatever

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honestly I don't even want to know

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all I wanted was to add an entry because some idiot forgot to replicate changes in prod to dev

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I just changed the mapping and will just call someone to deploy it I guess

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its apperently build upon http://j2ep.sourceforge.net/ ...

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comment "code looks tidy, but only expect maintenance by <our company>"

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cool

worn ember Mar 25, 2019, 11:12 AM

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@gloomy sphinx spoofing MAC adresses is illegal

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call da police

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 11:30 AM

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Android's logic: Please free up 50-60MB in your storage for this app that is like 6.49MB

worn ember Mar 25, 2019, 11:34 AM

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lol

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my sisters phone keeps telling the storage is full when only like 8gb of the 16 is used

quasi valley Mar 25, 2019, 11:36 AM

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Android

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everytime my brother started his old Honor 10, every single device connected to our router through wlan would time out

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 12:02 PM

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Hello

red halo Mar 25, 2019, 12:15 PM

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this is sickening 🤢

📎 unknown.png

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This string should be changed if the NMS mappings do.
It has no meaning and should only be used as an equality check.

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would of been way better if he used the build data commit hash atleast???

acoustic pilot Mar 25, 2019, 12:17 PM

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Or how about the NMS version system that was already in place...

red halo Mar 25, 2019, 12:17 PM

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that too

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this is horrible

jolly violet Mar 25, 2019, 12:22 PM

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i slept like dick

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pissed like 12 times

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too much water

fallen oracle Mar 25, 2019, 12:23 PM

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Just pee the bed 4head then you don't have to wake up

limber knotBOT Mar 25, 2019, 12:26 PM

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i slept

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lucky

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 12:27 PM

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does someone knows a good way to unload all chunks

worn ember Mar 25, 2019, 12:39 PM

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alt+f4

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 12:47 PM

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@golden gust you know what i really miss in MC

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a nether update ;/

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 12:48 PM

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Tbh, other than getting into the snapshot a bit a few weeks ago, not really played the game in a while

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Whenever I have gotten to "play", I've always had to go work on something or fix something 😄

void void Mar 25, 2019, 12:48 PM

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snapshot chunk loading is broken as fuck

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 12:48 PM

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XD

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@void void is it?

void void Mar 25, 2019, 12:48 PM

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yes

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 12:48 PM

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Not tried the past few betas

void void Mar 25, 2019, 12:49 PM

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i need to quit singleplayer and join again to make some parts of the world to load

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 12:49 PM

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you know what i love

void void Mar 25, 2019, 12:49 PM

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it's really annoying

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 12:49 PM

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seeying capes without the need of Optifine

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after so many years

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 12:49 PM

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But yea, they made some nice decisions which leads to stuff like the client refusing chunks

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 12:49 PM

#

every version of MC

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im trying to break the border

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never got any luck

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📎 2019-03-25_13.50.56.png

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this is weird

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you get damaged when you pearl tru the border

void void Mar 25, 2019, 12:51 PM

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tfw you can pearl behind the border

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 12:51 PM

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si

void void Mar 25, 2019, 12:52 PM

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in some version one could even get behind the border using a water bucket

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1.12.2 perhaps?

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 12:52 PM

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📎 2019-03-25_13.50.54.png

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1.13.2

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with paper

worldly condor Mar 25, 2019, 12:54 PM

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@slim nymph my new glasses will be also black 😛

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 12:54 PM

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@void void you know whats funny

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i updated paper yesterday

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and today im 13 versions behind

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LIKE WTF

void void Mar 25, 2019, 12:55 PM

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errr

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📎 image.png

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 12:56 PM

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im on 751 rn

void void Mar 25, 2019, 12:56 PM

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571 you mean?

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 12:56 PM

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https://gyazo.com/d8d3f765efd66060785796b2ea45dda2

Gyazo

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ye

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XD

jolly violet Mar 25, 2019, 12:57 PM

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i can shuck an ear of corn without my hands, wanna see?

finite wave Mar 25, 2019, 12:58 PM

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What

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Using a drill?

void void Mar 25, 2019, 12:59 PM

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also how to lose teeth in a quick way

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 12:59 PM

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interesting computer lab, I used the class names they gave me in the specification

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then the supervisor complained about my class names and told me they were stupid

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:00 PM

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how did your class names look like then?

worldly condor Mar 25, 2019, 1:00 PM

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suggest me a monospaced font

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:01 PM

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lucida console

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 1:01 PM

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he got really annoyed because I named my class representing a checkout line "Line" instead of Queue

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then my main class was named "Store", but he wanted it to be called "StoreGuiHandler"

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oh, and apprently skipping GUI elements and just rendering shit using texts and #toString wasn't good enough

#

I hate uni

worldly condor Mar 25, 2019, 1:04 PM

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@void void i dont like that

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other ?

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 1:04 PM

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Some people are funny

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#paper-github it says DO NOT REPORT TO PAPER

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And what does the person

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Report it too paper

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GWqlabsFacepalm

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 1:05 PM

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DO NOT REPORT TO PAPER means that you should report it to paper, clearly.

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:05 PM

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@worldly condor actually fira code

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 1:05 PM

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learn to read every second word

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:05 PM

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that's what i use

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 1:05 PM

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DO NOT REPORT TO PAPER <=> DO REPORT PAPER

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:05 PM

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should make a github bot

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 1:06 PM

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Ohno

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 1:06 PM

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DO REPORT

PAPER

actually

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:06 PM

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if stack trace contains "DO NOT REPORT TO PAPER", it'll just label it invalid and reply with RTFM

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or learn to read

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 1:06 PM

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"no."

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 1:08 PM

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If you report it. Send (Bro i told you not to report it)

finite wave Mar 25, 2019, 1:09 PM

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@heady spear Uni has always been like that

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 1:09 PM

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There is actually signs of an issue there, tbh

worldly condor Mar 25, 2019, 1:13 PM

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fira code is ew

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someone tell me a good monospaced font

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lol this bug still exists

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:21 PM

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good?

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find it yourself then

#

only you can find a font what you like :p

fallen oracle Mar 25, 2019, 1:25 PM

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comic sans

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Comment threads?

fallen oracle Mar 25, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Ahh

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Ohhh I know what you're saying now

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Yeah

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I don't see why that wouldn't work.

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 1:50 PM

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@lavish lichen @void void yeah we had a burst of activity yesterday 😛

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 1:50 PM

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i see XD

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 1:50 PM

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@void void use TEXT

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 1:50 PM

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btw

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maybe i found a issue

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 1:50 PM

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i hope you have a post limit size that keeps it under needing MEDIUM_TEXT

void void Mar 25, 2019, 1:50 PM

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i know i was kinda here yesterday aikar

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 1:50 PM

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idk if its paper or MC but

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when you are at the worldborder in the nether

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it crashes players

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 1:51 PM

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sounds like a client issue

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 1:51 PM

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i doubt

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vanilla MC with 8gig

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 1:52 PM

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@void void FYI MySQL TEXT is optimized that if it fits into a VARCHAR(255), it stays in the ROW Data, and then if it goes over that, it uses a variable sized buffer. So short posts are optimized in storage and long posts only need as much as it requires.

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yes i really hope you dont need larger than TEXT for support tickets

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@lavish lichen that changes nothing i said

#

It sounds like a client issue

#

report it to mojang

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 1:53 PM

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look the diff

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📎 2019-03-25_14.52.04.png

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📎 2019-03-25_14.53.23.png

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 1:53 PM

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no

worldly condor Mar 25, 2019, 1:53 PM

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aikar what font are u using to code ?

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 1:53 PM

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you're going to say what you think is diff im not reviewing all that lol

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@worldly condor i think Ubuntu?

worldly condor Mar 25, 2019, 1:54 PM

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hmm

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lemme google

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is it this ? https://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/ubuntu-mono

Ubuntu Mono Font Free by Dalton Maag Ltd » Font Squirrel

Download and install the Ubuntu Mono free font family by Dalton Maag Ltd as well as test-drive and see a complete character set.

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 1:55 PM

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well aikar i can report it, but the problem is. it happens when a new chunk loadsup

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 1:56 PM

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sure, but does look like im using Source Code Pro

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and maybe Noto Sans for IDE

worldly condor Mar 25, 2019, 1:58 PM

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it looks like i'm using menlo

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 2:01 PM

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i think thats what i have on mac

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im so happy I got the legacy data conversion working

#

I was able to convert a data version 0 chunk from 2013 to 1.13.2 w/o errors after completely gutting and replacing all of mojangs code for pre 1.13.2 DF's

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and was able to convert middle tier version chunks too

spark dirge Mar 25, 2019, 2:03 PM

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Want to test a 2011 map? 😂 I have a map from way back then that has some issues converting 🙈

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 2:03 PM

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sure ill take a region file

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but if mojang is missing code from 2011 to 2013 then i dont think we can do anything about that

spark dirge Mar 25, 2019, 2:05 PM

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Gotcha..the biggest issue I've seen is sometimes a chunk can't convert but other times it's all the chests are gone

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How should I provide you the region file? Google drive or somewhere?

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 2:13 PM

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@slim nymph do you have a invite to ur dc server (aikar framework thing)

limber knotBOT Mar 25, 2019, 2:15 PM

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.addcmd aikardiscord For support with Aikar's various projects, please join: https://discord.gg/gU8yahX

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 2:15 PM

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@lavish lichen ^

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 2:15 PM

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thank u

spark dirge Mar 25, 2019, 2:15 PM

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Here's a few of them, if you want more let me know https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1rEAXJV4yJwAQ40qRi0E74zDj9lmJEVsO?usp=sharing (paradise is the name of the world, no idea what 2010 me was thinking)

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 2:16 PM

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my world name is wilderness 😛

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 2:16 PM

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my world is just world

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 2:16 PM

#

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 2:16 PM

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and 1 break_the_border

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 2:16 PM

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_> for myself later lol

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 2:17 PM

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ok what the actual

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https://gyazo.com/cea6e84f9e319e8b3d67cfb0c61d264f

Gyazo

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before i restarted i had 205 chunks loaded

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and now this

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👀

limber knotBOT Mar 25, 2019, 2:38 PM

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/block/data/AnaloguePowerable.html

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"May not be over 9000"

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nice.

#

While im on this, can I set AnaloguePowerable to any block? Like if I wanted to make a custom block that can emit certain redstone strengths

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 3:28 PM

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@slim nymph sorry for the ping but for what is keep-spawn-loaded: true

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inside paper.yml

void void Mar 25, 2019, 3:28 PM

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To keep spawn loaded

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 3:28 PM

#

but what

#

is it like

#

spawn-chunk

#

or

void void Mar 25, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Spawn chunks

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 3:29 PM

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ahh

#

thank you!

void void Mar 25, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Paper 1.13.2 working at you?

#

7035_coolthink

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 3:41 PM

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@ping sorry for the ping but... is like saying "i'm not racist but...`

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 3:42 PM

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I'm not a racist, but I think wiz is correct

cedar spade Mar 25, 2019, 3:44 PM

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I'm not leafist, but...

alpine halo Mar 25, 2019, 3:52 PM

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I get pinged all the time like that too...

#

Or the "I know i'm not supposed to DM but,"

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

#

people need to gtfo complaing about pings

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@slim nymph PING!

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

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i only complain if people ping me

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if other people don't mind them idk

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

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@lavish lichen its a vanilla feature, it keeps chunks within radius of spawn, loaded, to never unload

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

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i just found the wording amusing

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 4:18 PM

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its silly to complai nabout people pinging you. if someone is directing a message at you, they should ping so its clear 'hey you are being communicated directly to'

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 4:19 PM

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unlike irc, you can just type someone's name here with forcing them to eat notifications

#

unfortunately discord doesn't have a way to mute direct mentions for only certain servers :\

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 4:19 PM

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if you dont want the notifications, you can turn them off

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 4:19 PM

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i can only turn them off entirely unfortunately

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 4:19 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

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switch it to Nothing

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

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still gives me notifications

#

go fucking figure

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 4:20 PM

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well file a bug report with discord lol

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

someone literally just pinged me there 2 seconds ago

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

@slim nymph i see. Thanks for the answer awumpusheart

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 4:21 PM

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I did not get a system notification for that ^

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and I have it on

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all it did is make the line yellow

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 4:21 PM

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possibly because you already had this channel active?

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 4:21 PM

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Xd

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 4:21 PM

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idfk

#

unfortunately it's hard to know anything about how this shitty client works

#

unless you want to dumpster dive minified js

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 4:21 PM

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but see thats fair, if someones trying to talk to you and you arent active, why shouldnt it notify you. the client ignoring the setting is the issue

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

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because i told it not to notify me? but it does anyway?

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

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right, thats a valid issue

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

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yea ok

#

glad we're on the same page

lavish lichen Mar 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

#

Aikar feel free to hand out a bug report at discord-testers dc

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;p

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

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im not joiining another discord just to report a discord bug

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 4:23 PM

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yea i'd rather just yell at people for pinging me :P

void void Mar 25, 2019, 4:25 PM

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same

austere carbon Mar 25, 2019, 5:00 PM

#

unreal quarry Mar 25, 2019, 5:03 PM

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@pulsar wigeon it literally says "unless mentioned"

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:05 PM

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was that on fucking purpose?

unreal quarry Mar 25, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Yup

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:06 PM

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fuck you then

unreal quarry Mar 25, 2019, 5:06 PM

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^_^

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:06 PM

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very proud of yourself for being an ass i guess ok

unreal quarry Mar 25, 2019, 5:07 PM

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I thought it was funny

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:07 PM

#

guess i'll just block you too and move on

unreal quarry Mar 25, 2019, 5:08 PM

#

I did include some useful info, tho, in case you missed it. It's not really a bug, it's intended design.

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:14 PM

#

what was that in relation to

unreal quarry Mar 25, 2019, 5:17 PM

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He wants to disable ping notifications on his name. But that's not how it works. You can't suppress those. Last I heard from discord is "mentions are to get your attention specifically. If you don't care to be notified of these then why are you in that server?"

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Aka, wontfix worksasintended

#

There are hacky workarounds floating around, but that requires a selfbot.

coarse urchin Mar 25, 2019, 5:20 PM

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If you dont like pings use Do Not Disturb mode lmao

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:21 PM

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📎 unknown.png

unreal quarry Mar 25, 2019, 5:24 PM

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You could add a suggestion on their support site. But those usually go unanswered. I'm still waiting on 24/12hr clock toggle that isn't integrated into locale

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:24 PM

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oh thats prob why i didnt get the notification, im on dnd

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go to dnd 😛

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:25 PM

#

in case it wasn't clear, the reason i don't do that is because it's global

#

i still want notifications from certain things, just not idiots asking for helping without reading instructions, or people being assholes for the sake of it

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enginehub was the only discord i've ever had this issue with (and this one now)

void void Mar 25, 2019, 5:28 PM

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yeah per server one would be epic

unreal quarry Mar 25, 2019, 5:28 PM

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I'm assuming you mean me. :/ I wasn't trying to be an asshole. Its proper to mention the person you're talking to, especially when a period of time has passed since they last spoke

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:28 PM

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he wasnt referencing you no

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he meant people in his discord

#

@pulsar wigeon DND still adds the unread badge, just stops OS notif

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:29 PM

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🤦

#

so done with this shit

void void Mar 25, 2019, 5:29 PM

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hahaha

#

@pulsar wigeon i know i shouldn't mention, but i just did

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:29 PM

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lol sorry its habit for me

void void Mar 25, 2019, 5:29 PM

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:)))))

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ok sorry i won't do this again

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:30 PM

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bout to block everyone on this server

unreal quarry Mar 25, 2019, 5:30 PM

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I honestly don't understand why people get so upset about mentions on discord. Especially the at-everyone

void void Mar 25, 2019, 5:31 PM

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@everyone makes sense for global announcement channels imo

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:32 PM

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@everyone can also be disabled on a per-server basis

void void Mar 25, 2019, 5:32 PM

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also wiz wouldn't dnd status silence mentions?

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:32 PM

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amazing how UX works huh

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are you fucking with me right now

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did i not just go over why dnd isnt an option

void void Mar 25, 2019, 5:33 PM

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no?

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i didn't read

#

but aight

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:33 PM

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plz

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:33 PM

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I was mainly noting though, do you really 'need' the OS Notification? on DND you still get notif that someones messaging you, just avoids annoying OS notif

unreal quarry Mar 25, 2019, 5:33 PM

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He wants notifs for some servers, but not in others. Dnd disables globally

void void Mar 25, 2019, 5:34 PM

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yeah yeah i see, makes sense why dnd won't work for him

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:34 PM

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does it do the OS notif if the channel is active too?

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:35 PM

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tbh unread indicators are as bad as os notification

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off should mean off

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or make it an additional option

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:35 PM

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so ultimately you want people to just not talk to you 😛

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:36 PM

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ultimately i want to be allowed to control the UI of software i use

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:37 PM

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if you're not active in the channel, and someones trying to send you a message specifically, without a ping, it could get scrolled off and then when you tab back in you would never know someone messaged you unless you scroll up and review everything

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:37 PM

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which is the case for literally every single thing i use except discord

limber knotBOT Mar 25, 2019, 5:37 PM

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if someone is trying to contact you without pinging you who

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's fault is it that you won

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't see it

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ugh enter key too close to '

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:37 PM

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thats my point sweepy

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that its standard to ping the person in any direct message

limber knotBOT Mar 25, 2019, 5:38 PM

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oh he wants pings completely off

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:38 PM

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it's never actually important
i do actually check for things i miss in places that matter
people think they matter to me more than i think they do

spark dirge Mar 25, 2019, 5:38 PM

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Heh, in rocket.chat we allow completely disabling all notifications server wide and channel specific 😂 interesting to see how discord does it

finite wave Mar 25, 2019, 5:39 PM

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You can do it on discord too

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:39 PM

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the last time someone had something actually important to say, they just said my name (without a ping), and asked to pm me because it was a security issue

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i got back to them, they added me, told me the issue, business done

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amazing.

merry talon Mar 25, 2019, 5:39 PM

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why did the bot translate 1) 2) 3) to - - -

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:39 PM

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well the direction of chat encourages use of pings. cant say im going to 2nd think every message sent to consider 'does this person dislike pings'

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:41 PM

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also the idea that something could get lost in chat if the person isn't active there is contradicted by using pings when in active conversation

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:42 PM

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it's also the fact that pings is how you tab complete a name

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:42 PM

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like no reason to ping someone if they said something 2 seconds ago, they're aware of an active conversation in chat

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:42 PM

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which is ultimately why people ping

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:42 PM

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uh, not in discord

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in irc maybe, but irc doesn't have mentions

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:42 PM

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sure there is, if you want to make it clear the target of said message is to a specific person

merry talon Mar 25, 2019, 5:43 PM

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lol, some people on freenode will get mad at you for not pinging them

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:43 PM

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wiz<tab> does not tab complete

merry talon Mar 25, 2019, 5:43 PM

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while you're talking to them

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actively

finite wave Mar 25, 2019, 5:43 PM

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@slim nymph On phone it’s easier to ping real wuick

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:43 PM

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right, @wiz<tab> does

finite wave Mar 25, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Quick

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:43 PM

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but there's no reason to type the @

finite wave Mar 25, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Instead of writing Aikar

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:43 PM

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if you dont, then you cant tab complete....

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wiz<tab> does not complete

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:43 PM

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so just type wiz<enter> instead

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lul

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:44 PM

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wiz<enter> hi

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:44 PM

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hi ai<tab>

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also once again there's little need to specifically mention someone by name during active conversation

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unless there's multiple convos happening at once, which is rare tbh

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and even then most people with more than 3 brain cells can deduce whom who is talking to

void void Mar 25, 2019, 5:45 PM

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so what is the final conclusion? to ping or not to ping?

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:45 PM

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i mean, don't ping people if they specifically ask you not to ping them

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tbh

void void Mar 25, 2019, 5:45 PM

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i can't see where this convo is going, seems like heavily opinionated for me

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:45 PM

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well im going back to work, but sorry but i disagree on it being a big deal. I'm going to tab complete names. It's on discord to provide more UX for people to control that.

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:46 PM

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we can argue about how pings should be used as much as you want

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but in the end if you ping someone for the sake of pinging someone even though you know they dont want you to, that makes you an asshole, regardless of ux or anything else

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:46 PM

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i agree it would be nice if people had more control, but im not gonna change my use of discord over that detail

void void Mar 25, 2019, 5:46 PM

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anyway discord provides a way to add notes to certain persons

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sooo

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📎 Screenshot_20190325-194627_Discord.png

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:46 PM

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lol

finite wave Mar 25, 2019, 5:47 PM

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He prolly has me ignored still

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Blocked*

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:47 PM

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also i understand habits are hard to break

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that part doesn't really make you an asshole

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mostly talking about the people who do it explicitly

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 5:48 PM

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wait so wiz does not want to get pinged?

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:48 PM

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pinging someone to just be annoying sure. thats just harassment 😛

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 5:48 PM

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didn't you like tell me to go for a walk and stop being mad when I complained about pings

wide hazel Mar 25, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Hi @wide hazel

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:P

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:49 PM

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but specially in heavier conversation rooms, even if the user is 'active', sometimes writing the target of a replies name is needed, and thats where I ping

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:49 PM

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you must be thinking about someone else?

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 5:49 PM

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not you, aikar 😛

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:49 PM

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@heady spear I told you to go walk

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@heady spear I'm saying pings are ok

wide hazel Mar 25, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Lol

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:49 PM

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see citys name is also a very tab compete worthy name 😛

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 5:49 PM

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@slim nymph I will fast async worldedit you the fuck away 😠

wide hazel Mar 25, 2019, 5:49 PM

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We should all take daily walks in the morning

void void Mar 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

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s/edit/exception/

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

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I'll just drop using FAWE

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considering going back to AWE anyways 😛

void void Mar 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

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ooooof

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

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the reported stability of FAWE is scaring me

wide hazel Mar 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

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I still haven't seen any issues with it

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

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someone just PR an actually good API design for shit to WE already

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

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There's a reason why no one is releasing FAWE lol, it's held back specifically because of that

wide hazel Mar 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

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Though always keep backups

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I have had zero issues with FAWE, but I keep backups anyway

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Jesse isn't running things anymore. I think we're all willing to delay releases for the sake of stability. I did the same with PlotSquared.

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

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@wide hazel 1.13.2 version built on WE7?

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

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are you guys even using minecraft's new async chunks

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

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im not talking about the WE6 version

wide hazel Mar 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

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I haven't tried yet

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Yet

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:52 PM

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blood was going on about that stuff for ages

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:52 PM

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MC doesnt have async chunks in 1.13

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 5:52 PM

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The in-dev version shouldn't be used atm, but it's not that far from release lol

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:52 PM

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he uses it at worldgen time though, not after shit's already loaded

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yes they do

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:52 PM

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it as a ghetto thread pool for generation

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:52 PM

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they just don't use it

wide hazel Mar 25, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Lol

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Ghetto thread pool

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Yeah, that pretty much sums it up

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:53 PM

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i mean yea it's pretty limited to generation atm

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:53 PM

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using that thread pool blocks main thread >_>

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waits for it to finish processing in the pool

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so yes pretty ghetto

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:53 PM

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but the idea is that you can unload a chunk, perform edits while it's loading again (async), and push it back to main thread edited

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 5:53 PM

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also uh, the major issue with the in-dev version of fawe is that you can do some funky stuff to get tile entity data to stack and then corrupt the chunks. That's why there hasn't even been dev releases yet 😃

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:53 PM

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or ideally somehow just freeze the chunk idk

wide hazel Mar 25, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Iunno why it's a thing, really

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:53 PM

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@wide hazel its unfinished work

wide hazel Mar 25, 2019, 5:54 PM

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It's okay, but really should have just done it property

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Properly, even

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Phone

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 5:54 PM

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1.14 does more for it

wide hazel Mar 25, 2019, 5:54 PM

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Yeah, I've heard

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Soon I will have time

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Soon

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Probably

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 5:54 PM

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at some point in time I would like to make plotsquared generation not super slow, that would be cool

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:54 PM

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ask blood :P

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or look at his code once he releases

wide hazel Mar 25, 2019, 5:55 PM

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I'm very slowly getting my time back

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:55 PM

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idk what the status is atm

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he's loading in schematics in async during generation i heard

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 5:55 PM

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The 1.13 generator is one big hack, lol. I'm not very happy with how we did the update from the 1.12 generator, but at least it works

wide hazel Mar 25, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Sounds fun

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 5:56 PM

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What's neat is that a lot of the generation stuff can be reused, so we pre-load schematics and shit like that. But it's way slower than it should be

wide hazel Mar 25, 2019, 5:56 PM

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I haven't dived in yet

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 5:56 PM

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probably not even noticable, but I'm not happy with it 😛

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Although, using the WorldEdit API for schematic shit made life a lot easier. That's one thing I don't regret.

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 5:59 PM

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yknow that makes me wonder how lenient sponge schematic spec is

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i wonder if i could just dump in things like entities and biomes until gab gets around to doing v2

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:02 PM

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📎 Screenshot_2019-03-25-17-58-48.png

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Mfw there are two rappers with the same spelled name

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Tech N9ne and Tech 9

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I got confused 'cause I thought N9ne had really died but apparently it was 9

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:04 PM

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nninene

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:04 PM

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You just read it as nine lmao

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Tech nine

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But yeah

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:05 PM

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no, Tech nninene

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sixixnineine is another good example

fallen oracle Mar 25, 2019, 6:06 PM

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I think the one still alive is from the mid-west

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:07 PM

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you mean the nine still alive?

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or are there only eight nines left after one nine died?

fallen oracle Mar 25, 2019, 6:07 PM

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The one still alive

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:08 PM

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the one nine still alive*

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:08 PM

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The Last Nine

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 6:09 PM

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By the 9 divines

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:09 PM

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the nine last or the one last nine?

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:09 PM

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by azura by azura by azura

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it's the grand vicarious

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Hi

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:10 PM

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why are we acting like vic is a big deal

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 6:11 PM

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https://youtu.be/IQYak7TLA60 @pulsar wigeon

YouTube

Jesus Christ the OG

STOP! YOU VIOLATED THE LAW. Oblivion City Guards - Remember The Em...

STOP! You violated the law. https://soundcloud.com/henrivictorious Original : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdGKy3nLMeo&feature=youtu.be shout out to nirnp...

▶ Play video

limber knotBOT Mar 25, 2019, 6:11 PM

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(DiscordBot) STOP! YOU VIOLATED THE LAW. Oblivion City Guards - Remember The Emperor (3E 433) - length 26s - 15,655 likes, 82 dislikes (99.5%) - 273,293 views - Jesus Christ the OG on 2018.04.18

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Enjoy

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:11 PM

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it's great because he loves pinging

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:11 PM

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actually instead imma just pull up the ost

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 6:11 PM

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@heady spear

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:12 PM

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go suck on a pinecone

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 6:12 PM

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hnnggghhhaahhh

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:12 PM

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you know the best part of this game is that i got it on dvd back in the day so i don't have any dumb game launcher telling me how many hours of my life i wasted on it

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 6:13 PM

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I still have my old ps3 copy

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:13 PM

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consoles pffft

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 6:13 PM

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I didn't have a pc then

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:13 PM

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pC maSterRaCe

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why don't we have msb on here

vestal jasper Mar 25, 2019, 6:13 PM

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You don't deserve it

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Nope, still tech nine

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Even Wikipedia says that

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:14 PM

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tech 9 or tech nnineine?

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i'm confused

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there wasn't a tech nine to begin with

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:14 PM

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https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/q-dzWoa_6QEUZuxpAJZQ0OWfqFMHsIl6DueV_hFNdYE/https/mockingspongebob.org/pc_masterrace.jpg

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it's tech nnineine, tech 9 is a gonner

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or was it the other way around?

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 6:15 PM

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@heady spear if you make your gen code async safe, you can make it async with a single line of code on Paper....

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:15 PM

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tbf it probably is already 😛

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:15 PM

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worldedit is pretty thread safe too

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:15 PM

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No, both names are pronounced "Tech Nine", it's just that when written there was a Tech N9ne and a Tech 9

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9 died, N9ne is alive

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:15 PM

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there's just no way to safely edit the world in non-main thread LUL

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:16 PM

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That's why it brought up confusion to fans lmao

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 6:16 PM

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public final boolean PAPER_ASYNC_SAFE = true;

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:16 PM

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9 died? quite a tragedy. how many injured?

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:16 PM

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so nninene is still alive, but what about the other 9?

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 6:16 PM

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just create that field

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:16 PM

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._. O k

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 6:16 PM

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https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/blob/master/Spigot-Server-Patches/0362-Async-Chunk-Loading-and-Generation.patch#L2465

GitHub

PaperMC/Paper

High performance Spigot fork that aims to fix gameplay and mechanics inconsistencies - PaperMC/Paper

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:16 PM

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damnit, wiz were faster

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was, english ahrd

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wat

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:16 PM

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lol

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does logics not get it

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oh

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english isn't his native language is it

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:17 PM

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I do

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:17 PM

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understandable

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:17 PM

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It's just not funny lmao

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:17 PM

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It is... you're just stupid 😠

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:17 PM

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"it's just not funny"..."lmao"

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 6:17 PM

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plotsquared is actually what plugin was alerted as breaking in Async Chunks @heady spear

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Yeah I'm lmaoing at your reaction

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:17 PM

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pinnacle of humor there

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:17 PM

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And at you saying that English is not my native language

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It isn't but that doesn't mean anything

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:17 PM

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i mean

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if you got it

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then you wouldn't still be trying to convince us

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we've been leading on the word play here the entire time

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don't think city nor i actually care about the original happenings much

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Yeah but my job in this world is to breakdown jokes so they just become stupid in the end

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:18 PM

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what's the joke though

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it's just word play

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also who's paying you

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i might need a change in careers soon

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the minecraft money is running dry

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Words can have different meanings depending on context

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W o n ' t c o m m e n t

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:19 PM

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I guess we'll look into it, @slim nymph. We've made zero effort to make it thread safe so it's not surprising 😛

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:20 PM

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words can have different meanings even in the same context

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 6:20 PM

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@heady spear https://github.com/IntellectualSites/PlotSquared/blob/79e1ea9a8f18ef021eabe90ce48c21c7615e5007/Bukkit/src/main/java/com/plotsquared/bukkit/generator/BukkitPlotGenerator.java#L255

GitHub

IntellectualSites/PlotSquared

PlotSquared - Reinventing the plotworld. Contribute to IntellectualSites/PlotSquared development by creating an account on GitHub.

unreal quarry Mar 25, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Don't ping ppl, @slim nymph. They're blocking us now for mentioning them

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runs

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:20 PM

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But what matters is the meaning that who wrote it gives to it

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Inside the limits of the valid meanings that a word can have

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:21 PM

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except it doesn't at all tbh

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Ohhhh yeah, right. There's that lol. A lot of that has been redone in the 1.13 version.

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Other than that you're just manipulating my words

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:21 PM

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matters way more how people take it

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than what is originally meant

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:21 PM

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It does? If I say a joke and you get offended it's not how you take it that matters to me LMAO

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:21 PM

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if that wasn't the case, literature classes in school would be boring and fact based

gusty idol Mar 25, 2019, 6:21 PM

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What could I call the getter of a field named asyncTabCompletionSupported thonk

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Our Bukkit generator is utter shit though 😐

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:22 PM

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IsAsyncTabCompletionSupported()?

gusty idol Mar 25, 2019, 6:22 PM

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huh

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 6:22 PM

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your storing references in fields on the class @heady spear which is what causes issues

gusty idol Mar 25, 2019, 6:22 PM

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I may be a little bit stupid

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:22 PM

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GetValueOfAsyncTabCompletionSupportFactoryResolverProvider.Factory().ResolveValue()?

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Also wiz, literature classes are boring because of that lol

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 6:22 PM

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youll need to not depend on field setting

gusty idol Mar 25, 2019, 6:22 PM

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But what about my other field

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 6:22 PM

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unless thats all changed now

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:23 PM

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When I read a text I often just try to get literally what they mean because I don't see clues that something could be different

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:23 PM

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@slim nymph yup, got it. had a brain fart. Should be easier to fix in the 1.13 branch tho

gusty idol Mar 25, 2019, 6:23 PM

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isConfigurablePermissionMessageSupported is a bit long

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 6:23 PM

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yeah thats just what state it was in when the bug was reported lol

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:23 PM

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The authors just say random words and expect us to understand, that's not exactly interesting either

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:23 PM

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they usually dont though

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they usually expect that different readers may have different interpretations

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different backgrounds, different contexts, etc

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most good writers don't write for themselves, they write for an audience

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overmighty, if that's a serious question, just abbreviate?

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isPermMsgConfigurable?

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or even more

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 6:24 PM

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🤷

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:24 PM

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really depends on what fields you have

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 6:25 PM

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isPMC

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:26 PM

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that's kinda bordering not being descriptive lol

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if (isPMC()) { giveOP(); }

gusty idol Mar 25, 2019, 6:28 PM

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I ended up renaming the field to permissionMessageConfigurable

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And named the getter isPermissionMessageConfigurable

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:28 PM

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tbh having getters (and setters?) for every field in config classes is usually a bit overkill

gusty idol Mar 25, 2019, 6:28 PM

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No setters

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Ah yes I'd love to ǫ̴͞ŕ́͢ǵ̡͟a̸͞͏n̸̨͡i͘͞͞z̨̡̀e͝͞ ̧͟͞i̵̧̛ḿ̛͠p̷̧͟o̡͟͟ŗ̕t̶͢͢s̛͜͠҉

📎 unknown.png

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:29 PM

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hard to tell without knowing your architecture, but you could just pass in a YamlConfiguration (or extend it) and make a bunch of public final (static?) fields that are initialized in constructor(or statically)

gusty idol Mar 25, 2019, 6:29 PM

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What

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There isn't a config file for those fields

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Their values are defined using try/catch blocks

📎 unknown.png

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:30 PM

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oic

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sounded like config

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point stands though

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those can be final and not need a separate getter

gusty idol Mar 25, 2019, 6:32 PM

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But I can't make those final

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:32 PM

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why not?

gusty idol Mar 25, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Because I set their values in the static block

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:32 PM

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last time i checked you can set final static fields in static constructors

gusty idol Mar 25, 2019, 6:32 PM

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You can't

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:33 PM

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googles

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https://stackoverflow.com/a/5093797

Stack Overflow

Initialize a static final field in the constructor

public class A
{
private static final int x;

public A() 
{
    x = 5;
}

}
final means the variable can only be assigned once (in the constructor).
static means it's a class

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🤔

gusty idol Mar 25, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Oh wait

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:33 PM

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oh, is that in catch?

gusty idol Mar 25, 2019, 6:33 PM

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I misunderstood that error message

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Wait

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No

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Wait

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thonk

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:34 PM

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i mean i might be wrong, i've been doing a lot of c# in the past few months and while they are very similar, there are some underlying differences in how things are treated in the jvm/clr

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but i was under the impression that was possible

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at the very least, you should definitely be able to do

try {
  Class.forName
  flag = true;
} catch {
  flag = false;
}
field = flag;```

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if the "double" set is causing the issue

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i'm pretty sure the compiler should realize that one one set will ever happen though

gusty idol Mar 25, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Eh

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Not sure if I should do that or settle with getters

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 6:37 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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i don't care

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was just saying it's possible

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the overkill part was an opinion when i thought this was a config

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the rest with statics and finals was just theorycrafting

slim nymph Mar 25, 2019, 7:02 PM

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https://www.quora.com/Have-you-ever-seen-code-so-bad-it-made-you-laugh/answer/Divyendra-Patil-1

Divyendra Patil's answer to Have you ever seen code so bad it made...

This was exactly 5 months back. Early morning, my manager told me I had to edit some feature in a report generation.

The issue was there was a doc file being generated on a server and then it was being replicated using a cron job at a particular ...

upper flicker Mar 25, 2019, 7:07 PM

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rofl

static badge Mar 25, 2019, 7:11 PM

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that's gotta be some bullshit no way

limber knotBOT Mar 25, 2019, 7:36 PM

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.addcmd retarded https://youtube.com/watch?v=eOBoKxEcVAA

YouTube

three14

Rick & Morty - Retarded

Clip from Rick & Morty S01E09

▶ Play video

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 7:37 PM

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European Cup 2020, Portugal VS Serbia starting soon 👀

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 7:38 PM

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shit did i oversleep

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 7:38 PM

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what

void void Mar 25, 2019, 7:41 PM

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tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 7:48 PM

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well it started, like 2 mins ago lmao

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🇵🇹 0 - 1 🇷🇸

fleet osprey Mar 25, 2019, 7:59 PM

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ooo, I like that dark aqua name

hard lake Mar 25, 2019, 8:02 PM

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I'm croatian :p

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 8:08 PM

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do you need me to explain the joke to you logics

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i thought that was your job

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 8:27 PM

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🇵🇹 1 - 1 🇷🇸

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 8:42 PM

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@pulsar wigeon yeah uh

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rn i just literally didn't understand it, so pls explain lmao

heady spear Mar 25, 2019, 8:51 PM

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European Cup 2020

current year being 2019
shit did i oversleep
woke up in 2020

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 8:53 PM

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... oh

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yeah it's the qualifiers

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but it's still technically for euro 2020 so if we lose we lose it altogether lmao

pulsar wigeon Mar 25, 2019, 8:59 PM

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thanks city mon

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clutch joke explaining

hard lake Mar 25, 2019, 9:11 PM

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we technically deserved the victory

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but didn't get the first place

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I knew france was going to get us

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 9:29 PM

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📎 Screenshot_2019-03-25-21-28-52.png

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Hold on

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W h a t

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Lmao

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Jay-Z signing Lil Uzi

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the match ended, 🇵🇹 1 - 1 🇷🇸

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 10:17 PM

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b r u h I was opening instagram pics on PC and I was noticing these sentences while the picture was loading

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I looked at the HTML

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📎 unknown.png

unreal quarry Mar 25, 2019, 10:25 PM

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It's for the blind people that can't see pictures

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 10:26 PM

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... yeah that seems pretty useful, they can fully see it now

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 10:27 PM

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It's pretty much a requirement to be able to state that your site was designed in a way that's suitable for blind people

unreal quarry Mar 25, 2019, 10:27 PM

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It's like the braile on drive thru ATM machines

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 10:27 PM

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^^

worn ember Mar 25, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Don't laugh at blind people smh

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they'll never see it coming

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 10:28 PM

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hold on you weren't being sarcastic?

jolly violet Mar 25, 2019, 10:28 PM

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ONE WATER

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 10:28 PM

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trying too hard/10

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 10:28 PM

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my friend just sent me this and I was laughing at it:

📎 unknown.png

worn ember Mar 25, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Yes.

golden gust Mar 25, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Websites these days basically have to be designed for everybody

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it sounds stupid, given the sites intents, but it is what it is

worn ember Mar 25, 2019, 10:29 PM

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I accidentally sent a blind college student the wrong way

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cuz i didnt know the campus yet

jolly violet Mar 25, 2019, 10:29 PM

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his fault for not being able to see

worn ember Mar 25, 2019, 10:29 PM

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i feel so bad about it lol

unreal quarry Mar 25, 2019, 10:29 PM

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It legit is for blind people. They have screen readers that talk to them and tell them things, like the alt tag on website images.

jolly violet Mar 25, 2019, 10:29 PM

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he should've used his eyes

worn ember Mar 25, 2019, 10:30 PM

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i saw him the next day so i guess he managed to figure it out

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@unreal quarry mhm we had a 2h lecture on website acessability

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they use braille keyboards and stuff

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 10:31 PM

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I once borrowed 100€ to a blind person, they said they'd pay me back when they saw me again.

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runs

upper flicker Mar 25, 2019, 10:31 PM

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u

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r

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bad

worn ember Mar 25, 2019, 10:31 PM

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do blind people see black? or do they just see nothing?

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always confused about that

upper flicker Mar 25, 2019, 10:32 PM

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there are askreddit threads on it

worn ember Mar 25, 2019, 10:32 PM

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reddit is a meme

upper flicker Mar 25, 2019, 10:32 PM

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the answer is they 'see' their own 'visualization'

jolly violet Mar 25, 2019, 10:32 PM

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tbh it's probably "black" but they don't know it is

worn ember Mar 25, 2019, 10:32 PM

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wow

tropic flame Mar 25, 2019, 10:32 PM

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yeah, which basically means black