I saw it the same day I got it - January 4th
#general
austere ivy
what on earth is that
static badge
looks cool
native thunder
Looks like one of those vector plates from pokemon
Don't remember what they're called
orchid pelican
whats the most expensive domains you own
austere ivy
.. who are you asking o-o
orchid pelican
anyon
upper flicker
just the normal .io tlds personally
I know there are shorter ones that are more expensive
as well as the speciality tlds
austere ivy
There's.. shorter ones than .io?
The only thing that could be shorter is a 1-letter tld o-o
cosmic raft
I think the most expensive I have now is a .lc domain
austere ivy
how much is that a year, Aikar?
slim nymph
i dont even know
austere ivy
Most expensive domain I have is 7 bucks a year. Renews at like 10 I think.
Where do you guys get your domains, too?
unreal quarry
Most expensive I have is cheap, but I buy 10 years at a time
austere ivy
why on earth
cosmic raft
O.o
austere ivy
Yeah one renews at 15 bucks.
Most expensive one.
Got it for 3.67/year for first year though 😉
unreal quarry
I've had it since 2002. Never gonna let it go ^_^
austere ivy
Totally to get me locked in, though. Not a doubt.
austere ivy
I use Porkbun.
cosmic raft
I was about to say
slim nymph
lol
austere ivy
Wooh.
slim nymph
.co's are 30 IIRC
austere ivy
Cloudflare does domains?
cosmic raft
yes
austere ivy
Ooh yeah I've heard about that. Any good? I don't use cloudflare for.. literally anything, haha.
cosmic raft
Yes, they're good
austere ivy
Except their dns. 1.1.1.1 is great.
slim nymph
i still use godaddy cause it would be a lot of money to get off it lol
austere ivy
I mean I understand they're huge I just haven't personally ever used any of their services.
cosmic raft
austere ivy
Also, godaddy is the worst. They snipe the ones you want SO MUCH. They're.. very shady.
austere ivy
Like you search something on godaddy, next thing you know, they bought it. Yhuck.
upper flicker
might move them eventually
cosmic raft
Cloudflare is bae
slim nymph
namecheap is like 30 @upper flicker
austere ivy
zeesevenfifty.io is 28.76/year
slim nymph
i noticed google is charging a lot more
upper flicker
I moved off of namecheap
austere ivy
28.97* woops.
upper flicker
not really interested in going back
slim nymph
what was wrong?
upper flicker
I'd just move them to CF
cosmic raft
yeah, not a fan of Namecheap myself either
austere ivy
Try porkbun.
upper flicker
idk why google's are so expensive
austere ivy
Everyone likes porkbun, it's made by Raymond King, and it's a tiny and personalized customer experience. I mean you can see their staff, their customer support, everything. They've got 5 people.
slim nymph
I neveru nderstood how one could have issues with a registrar outside of pricing and disliking the company politically
austere ivy
Also the website looks really nice in compared to others like namesilo and stuff. And godaddy too.
atomic marten
whats wrong with namecheap 
slim nymph
you log in to buy domain, set a nameserver, then forget about it lol
atomic marten
^
austere ivy
Interface matters a lot, Aikar, just the way you can set up things can be a pain on other places sometimes..
slim nymph
interface for what? the once in 3 years you login?
cosmic raft
I've had issues with Namecheap sending renewals, resulting in domains expiring in the past
slim nymph
if you use your registar for dns management, sure, but why would you? most of you use cloudflare for that
cosmic raft
..
slim nymph
.... its kind of default?
the whole premise is let cf manage dns
its actually hard to NOT do it
austere ivy
I literally do not use cloudflare. Anything of it. Is there any reason I should?
slim nymph
its a free ddos protection and website firewall
austere ivy
and is it free
slim nymph
for small sites yes
austere ivy
why would they do that o-O
upper flicker
world domination
cosmic raft
not fastest for me, Google is faster :p
slim nymph
CF offers free in hopes you are enticed to upgrade to their paid plans
its the freemium model
@austere ivy papers site is behind CF
most mc servers use it
its a free CDN too
austere ivy
But like what they do..?
slim nymph
its a CDN / proxy service
austere ivy
Like I mean I've seen Cloudflare's redirection thing, I've heard of them a lot.
slim nymph
you point website dns to them, then configure your real IP inside CF admin
austere ivy
Why.. should I use them?
slim nymph
then your static resources can be cached in a CDN
void void
caching
slim nymph
and your web servers IP is hidden from public
and you can enable things to rewrite page content to try to make it faster too
austere ivy
that wouldn't work for Minecraft servers, though?
austere ivy
Yeah.
limber knotBOT
unless you pay for enterprise
upper flicker
they did add some thing to let them pass through MC connections and other stuff
slim nymph
hence why you see a lot of mc servers use mc.domain or play.domain
void void
they have a thing for abritrary tcp but $$$
upper flicker
idk if its in free tier
slim nymph
so that MC is different than their web
atomic marten
yea, enterprise will let you
upper flicker
the CF guy mentioned it in his reply
austere ivy
Current way I have it set up, my domain, if you go to forums.(domain) then you go to the forums on web.
If you go to (domain) then I have a srv dns record something that makes the port 25565 and points to the actual IP.
maybe I should change that haha.
limber knotBOT
SRV is not ideal
slim nymph
check out my DNS 😛 https://gist.github.com/aikar/cbe3e03afd2f4ee48debd77189aaabee
austere ivy
what on earth.
cloudflare is making you pay what they pay? That's.. wow. What an idea, you're just breaking even, but in the end making profit because eventually people might use your other services.
golden gust
It's stupid, and annoying, and I literally have no idea why some ISPs seem to have at least intermittent issues with SRV records, but it's a thing, and it's annoying
slim nymph
smp.X.emc.gs routes SRV to playsmpX.emc.gs, playsmpX.emc.gs routes to play.emc.gs
austere ivy
But that means that literally no one can compete with them unless they also have some sort of pricing model akin to that because if they "broke even" only, they wouldn't have enough to do .. everything else, like paying employees, etc
slim nymph
then play.emc.gs is a round robin dns pool
austere ivy
that's insane.
slim nymph
but sometimes SRV fails and it hits smp3.emc.gs literally as cat mentioned, which goes to my web server
limber knotBOT
expecting any kind of common sense from an ISP is your first mistake
limber knotBOT
they gave up on that
void void
ok me first
slim nymph
and for the newbies, thats what managing DNS looks like outside of those fancy GUI web admin panels 😛
so much simpler IMO
slim nymph
i just quickly edit the file, add a line, edit a line, run updateserial reloaddns
$TTL 3600
@ IN SOA ns1.starlis.com. daniel.starlis.com. (
2019031300 ; Serial
10800 ; Refresh
3600 ; Retry
604800 ; Expire
86400 ) ; Minimum
@ IN NS d.ns.buddyns.com.
@ IN NS h.ns.buddyns.com.
@ IN NS c.ns.buddyns.com.
@ IN NS f.ns.buddyns.com.
@ IN NS g.ns.buddyns.com.
@ IN NS b.ns.buddyns.com.
can I post a picture with lots of my .. ips and stuff
i mean I don't really think anyone here will ddos me, right folks?
limber knotBOT
why are you running your own dns server lol
austere ivy
slim nymph
why not? its so much easier
austere ivy
That's what that looks like for me, haha.
How on earth would you run your own dns server? o-O
slim nymph
but I geo replicate my dns, thats what BuddyNS is
bind9
super common dns server
i dont actually serve dns out of my server anymore, its used as a master to tell buddyns what to provide
reloading bind9 sends a ping to buddy to do a sync
limber knotBOT
What do you pay buddy though? :p
austere ivy
I'm honestly still a bit confused with dns and also how different ISPs connect, a bit, too.
slim nymph
then when you ask for say timings.aikar.co, it sends off to multiple dns servers around the world, one will respond faster than the rest
14$/mo
but thats because I needed more capacity, there is a cheaper plan
void void
easier to just use cf i reckon
austere ivy
If everything's just wires everywhere, how would different ISPs connect? How would you go about making your own ISPs? Can't ISPs say "you can't connect to our network" or something..
slim nymph
if i could tell cloudflare to sync records from my master sure!
limber knotBOT
you can give it a zone file
austere ivy
Same with DNS. If it's just a server, how can you sign up your stuff on one DNS server and have it on another?
;p
slim nymph
@austere ivy oh man the rabbit hole
what you are asking about is called Peering Agreements
and yes its a nightmare
limber knotBOT
but more than that why aren't you using CF for the caching
austere ivy
I'd honestly like to learn more about that.
slim nymph
networks have to get another networks to agree to peer to have optimal routing
austere ivy
It just says "the net is actually a huge global thing made of connections."
void void
it's like a web
austere ivy
Then how would ISP 1 connect to ISP 2? How would you make your own ISP? How would it connect?
void void
a world wide web
austere ivy
Yeah but who owns it.
Everyone says "no one does!" but ultimately someone has to say whether someone can make a new IP. Someone has to say if someone can register a new something.
slim nymph
you think i got time to build a cf integration
austere ivy
ISP*
limber knotBOT
it's like a series of tubes
slim nymph
its not worth the trouble over 14/mo
austere ivy
aikar, where'd you learn this stuff?
slim nymph
14 may seem like a bit for someone with no income i guess. but when you work essentially 2 full time jobs (dayjob + all my MC work), and have super needy family all depending on me, never having enough time in the day.... ill gladly spend money to save time
and 14$ is a single meal
@austere ivy "i have problem x, how do i solve it? <hack at it>"
limber knotBOT
slim nymph
.g bind9 tutorials
austere ivy
wish me luck, folks.
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atomic marten
read the documentation
slim nymph
though i use to use cpanel, and dropped it, and looked at the config files it generated
back when i was a noob
i manage all my configs manually now, just have each software in a git repo each
i run my own mail server stack too
limber knotBOT
🤮
golden gust
You really learn what you need from searching around, reading and hacking at things; I run nginx just fine, do I know how to configure every single aspect of it? heck no
slim nymph
lol
ancient bolt
Damnit it'll be impossible to keep track of conversations
atomic marten
i just read the docs
slim nymph
#banleafs
austere ivy
and we just throw it all in
merry talon
i switched over to caddy
austere ivy
put it in a blender and boom
merry talon
nginx just took too much effort to do what I want
slim nymph
why caddy?
upper flicker
simplicity
merry talon
super simple
upper flicker
it does everything for you
slim nymph
is it a from ground up new server, or fork of nginx?
merry talon
its it's own thing, written in go
austere ivy
oh yeah I need to work on Issue #1
slim nymph
does it basically auto setup LE?
austere ivy
adding VR support to Cardboard.
upper flicker
yes
austere ivy
see you, folks.
slim nymph
oh so thats wtf that caddyfile is in paper repo
merry talon
I always had a hell of a time trying to upgrade or modify an nginx install
caddy is just a binary
merry talon
oh jesus I forgot you were one of them
slim nymph
i have nothing against nginx, its just a pointless debate at small scale
only really matters at larger scale
merry talon
you consider yourself small scale?
slim nymph
you think im taking 10's of thousands of requests a minute or something?
my mc forums or timings aint that popular lol
merry talon
yeah but how fast are they :P
slim nymph
and as ive said before, most of the load is from php, the cost of php is the same in apache vs nginx
your measuring cost to deliver a static asset
you gotta be at some really damn large scale to make static assset delivery a concern
merry talon
yeaah I guess if you're running php forums it doesnt matter
slim nymph
and if your running a pure static html site, i doubt it matters either 😛
merry talon
there's stuff in between though
slim nymph
the only role the httpd process is doing is request routing and static resource delivery (* unless static resource requests are being filtered through php)
and if you have a CDN in front of your server, all that is then completely pointless
since ideally static resources are only requested once then
back to my comment above about time. its something i dont have enough of. i don't have a 'problem to solve' to justify switching off apache
and i honestly see nginx being more work to maintain as now a site level config = updating the server nginx config and reloading it
where as apache its edit the local sites .htaccess
slim nymph
i prefer servers to be agnostic of the application its serving. let the app control its site specific config
plus ive made my apache configs super simple :P
DocumentRoot /var/www/aikar.co
Use Domain aikar.co
ServerAlias aikar.dev
Use LEVerify
</VirtualHost>
<VirtualHost *:443>
DocumentRoot /var/www/aikar.co
Use Domain aikar.co
ServerAlias aikar.dev
Use SSLLE aikar.dev
</VirtualHost>
macros are really nice
i could technically combine those too
into another macro
merry talon
simple but straight out of 1995 :P
cosmic raft
php's built in webserver
upper flicker
IIS
limber knotBOT
you've summoned NickG365
merry talon
TCP sockets
slim nymph
slim nymph
that hacker os lunix doesnt support legal softwares such as macroshaft IIs
upper flicker
that bastard linyos torovoltos
merry talon
there are people born in 2004 with jobs
limber knotBOT
People born in 2004 could be my children without it being that weird
limber knotBOT
Leaf?
slim nymph
haha
upper flicker
yeah
merry talon
if you use amphetamines and speed
I dont think you actually do much else
like hacking
you just do amphetamines and speed
slim nymph
dude you realize how much software is written on meth and speed?
limber knotBOT
I use amphetamines every day and do a lot of hacking
merry talon
oh yeah, windows 10 for sure
upper flicker
calling him leaf
merry talon
🤔
upper flicker
oof
limber knotBOT
Why is everyone talking about age recently?
It's a conspiracy to make me feel old since I will turn 22 in 4 weeks!
peak lodge
limber knotBOT
You only feel that way because you are old!
Arent you as old as I am?
s/old/young
Correction, <MiniDigger> Arent you as young as I am?
s/young/ancient/
Correction, <MiniDigger> Arent you as ancient as I am?
😑
As if you were that much younger
I'm older :p
Seeeee
warm owl
22 ... you are sooooo old (said jokingly by the guy who is a decent amount older)
void void
yo, can i ask a general programming question here?
it has more to do with vectors and operations on them.
cosmic raft
yes
cosmic raft
no
void void
conway's game of life, a celluar automaton
im trying to optimize my code using vectors, but i dont really see where this could be implemented, i.e using SSE, AVX and so on.
because i have a certain logic / cell that changes it, so i dont see where i could utilize it really.
i dont know about that stuff
alright alright, thx either way
shell vine
well i certainly wouldnt want to go on one
void void
good time to buy one?
void void
no i just want to die
limber knotBOT
mfw Java Sea is a thing
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green edge
.g Java island
limber knotBOT
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green edge
safe doesn't necessarily mean perfect
additionally, they may be in PR damage control mode
tranquil bone
native thunder
Boeing isn't the only company having headaches. Iirc southwest flies mainly maxes
atomic marten
it’s never good to do pr damage control
It’s always a headache and vest if it just doesn’t happen
(It does and will)
Even more minor things like “we have no reports of consoles bricking, just freezes and force shutdowns” hurts to say
acoustic pilot
@native thunder Boeing would be the last entity to trust on whether it's safe or not. They're obviously biased and have an interest in saying that no matter what.
FAA should be the authority here on whether it's safe or not.
It's like trusting Facebook when they say they value your privacy, lol.
Of course sarcasm is also hard to detect when you say it like that, which is how you may have intended it lol
acoustic pilot
Right, figured. It wasn't immediately clear because yeah.
native thunder
But ya. Don't trust Boeing on this issue
2 crashes in 5 months is crazy
Like 300+ dead from that
acoustic pilot
Yeah, 300+ dead, planes grounded, but Boeing's stock not really taken a big hit from this news.
native thunder
Well it could be 2 piloting errors who knows
No complete investigation yet
But if I was an investor, I'd be pretty nervous
acoustic pilot
Boeing's probably too big to fail here.
They'll ultimately find the cause and fix it.
But if this does stretch long term, or if the planes are cleared without a proper conclusion, and another crash happens, shit will probably go down.
Pun not intended 😛
acoustic pilot
no, ur only power is pooping
void void
wat
jolly violet
yeah you say that but wait until he shits on you
it’ll be the only power that matters
limber knotBOT
@void void iirc intel contributed a hardware accelerated vector impl to java in like java 10 or smth
check jdk.incubator.vector.*
mortal imp
Hype for supersonic air travel to return?
NASA is apparently helping boeing solve the sonic boom problem previous supersonic aircraft faced.
They've apparently found some way to greatly reduce the impact of the booms, so much so that the U.S could lift the law against supersonic aircraft above U.S soil.
Maybe it'd actually be worth it to fly when supersonic's are back in town. Don't gotta spend 2 days traveling xD
Lockheed Martin is actually incredible
green edge
airplane crashes aren't really that big of a deal
since 300 deaths in 6 months is really low compared to how many die in accidents daily
only in my country which has ~19 million citizens, there are ~1000 car accident crashes in 6 months
native thunder
Airplanes are held to a different standard. Statically they're the safest form of travel. But any accident gets a huge amount of publicity
torpid willow
limber knotBOT
because turns out there are ppl who are not all about the money, lol
minecraft is a hobby
void void
because of an interest in this game?
quasi valley
Then you have people changing 30 lines of the paper code and selling their EVEN HIGHER PERFORMANCE PAPER for 100€, love those
void void
yeah uh... what would y'all think about me charging 10€ for implementing WhitelistToggleEvent?
wraith oracle
Isn't that a two lines event
Like, super easy to implement
And well, if someone payed you to do so, I would personally not have a problem with it (even though they could've paid the devs)
Of course, that's my opinion, not sure whatever the actual devs think about it
quasi valley
For them it’s easy money for literally no work
Not saying there aren’t any people actually putting effort in modifications, but just for those cases
woven otter
Well we all have to eat
heady spear
We get $500 every month for attending college ._.
void void
no point for asking money for shit you can do without any effort tbh
woven otter
@heady spear that's a freaking good deal
heady spear
you also get $150 a month for attending high school
void void
mfw
here we get told "your only salary is knowledge"
while it's sort of true, that salary is low quality sadly
and kills motivation completely
heady spear
Here you literally just have to exist, lol
I also get paid to take extra courses over the summer
limber knotBOT
where r u from?
heady spear
Sweden 😄
heady spear
Honestly, it sucks that our school system is crappy
because it has the potential to be soooooo goood
limber knotBOT
see, you think its crappy
but you don't know about the systems we have in other countries :D
worn ember
Well i need to pay like 1.4k for college (books included)
so its not as bad as murica i guess
heady spear
Mini, you're German right? Your school system is very specialized from a very young age. This can be a good thing, but it can also be a very bad thing.
Our school system specializes during high school, where you can either choose to go to a programme that later on allows (read: forces) you to go to high school, or you can go to a trade school
Either way, the system is specialized, but it's still very open, meaning that the entry requirements are low and the barriers to entry are barely existent at all
Couple this with a horrible standardized curriculum, and you get a failed school system.
Also, even if you choose to attend a university preparation programme, you're still very specialized
You basically end up targeting a specific university programme already in high school, which limits your options to a very high extent.
limber knotBOT
Your school system is very specialized from a very young age. <--- not really. the first choice I had was in grade 7 (age 13 or so), and that was only frensh vs latin. then two years later, you get the first real choice where you can specialize and after than you can choose nearly everything (within boundaries)
but its not as specialized as you might think
heady spear
But the people that choose to learn a trade very often end up unemployed, as they lack the education to attend university, and the skills to change career paths
limber knotBOT
e.g. I stopped doing chemistry but choose CS
heady spear
Your school system is pretty infamous for its specialization tho. Don't know if it's a special thing then?
Because it's the standard example of what not to do 😛
quasi valley
the school system in germany is the least specialized you can probably have 😂
limber knotBOT
KennyTV, I just finished my dual study, I can't stop recommending it to ppl, its really good to get started in the industry
heady spear
When discussing educational systems, people tend to place Germany at one side of the spectrum and the US at the other side of the spectrum
limber knotBOT
its specialized in "classes", you got 4 or so different school forms, the one for idiots (Hauptschule), the one for sane ppl (Gymnasium), smth inbetween (realschule) and a mix of everything (gesamptschule)
its a fucking mess
worn ember
everything before college is somewhat irrelevant here
limber knotBOT
ewwww, teacher :D
heady spear
We have a standardized curriculum up to year 9, after which you use your GPA to apply to specialized high school programmes
Those pretty much determine what colleges you'll apply to, or what your trade will be
limber knotBOT
out of interest, with which company and with which FH did you got an offer KennyTV?
heady spear
Then at university you apply to programmes. You have very little freedom in your choice of courses
So essentially, after 9th grade you choose a high school programme that limits your number of university programme choices, then you choose a strictly planned university programme.
limber knotBOT
uuh, a state agency, yeah, i can imagine that being awfull, lol
but yeah, the german style dual study thingy where you pair practical education (apprenticeship) with theoretical education (university "light" basically, germany is weird), is really good as you get 2 degrees after 3 years, have both theoretical and practical experience, you earn money while studying and you don't get bored from all the theoretica
l bullshit since you only need to deal with that every other week as you spend the rest of your time in a company doing actual work
i love english linguistic more than anything <----- don't read anything I write then, lol
I stopped trying to speak english, now I just speak minilang
quasi valley
😂
heady spear
I have a friend who got an EdD in physics, he seems to think that Germany has the worst educational system in the world 😛
Also, didn't you guys like adopt the electronium model for grade schools? That's some bs right there
woven otter
EdD?
heady spear
Doctor of education
limber knotBOT
electronium model for grade schools <-- whats that?
heady spear
The electronoium model is an atomic model used in teaching, which basically describes electrons as a quantum
which is good and all, possibly at a university level
limber knotBOT
oh
heady spear
It basically states that electrons consist out of "Electronium", which is a substance distributed around the nucleus
heady spear
basically a liquid. It's fucking useless for teaching the atomic model to kids
limber knotBOT
I only remember burning ants with the power of the sun
quasi valley
we had the most basic garbage in physics you could possibly have at grades 11-12, i didnt actually revize anything at home and got out with 15 points (1+)
woven otter
That's a weird model to teach
heady spear
I took the IB, so I didn't really get to experience too much of the Swedish system
quasi valley
and chemistry was gone for me after grade 10 :D
woven otter
Also it's wrong
quasi valley
together with biology
heady spear
In total, I had 350h of chemistry in high school
And I will probably never get to use any of what I learned
quasi valley
oh, i just despise that subject too much so i got rid of it as soon as i could
heady spear
MTM, the model isn't "wrong". It's an educational model.
spiral garden
somehow i'm passing chemistry
limber knotBOT
I just finished a 3 year bachelor degree and I will prolly not use much of what I learned
spiral garden
even though i don't know anything
heady spear
Basically, it's a way of imagining the electrons.
The Bohr model is very common, but it's almost worse
The shell model is by far the worst. But it's more than good enough for grade school.
heady spear
It's one of the better analogies. Explaining to a 11 year old that electrons are actually quantized particle with indeterminable positions
isn't really the best choice
woven otter
Oh yeah for 11 year olds sure
heady spear
The IB was the best choice I've ever made. I got to avoid the stupidity that is the Swedish*** system, and I didn't have to take a bunch of useless courses
Also, in many countries I can skip the first year of college if I want, because our "higher level" courses cover a lot of undergrad stuff 😛
If I had decided to study chemistry at uni, I could have skipped the first year entirely.
quasi valley
what i love most about the us: when i will have my year abroad to study there, i need to take a 100-200€ test to proof that im capable of speaking basic english, ignoring the fact that i will already have a bachelors degree in english(-linguistics) when the time comes
heady spear
😄 Also another perk of the IB
I don't have to take language tests in any English speaking country
woven otter
What's IB anyways
quasi valley
no idea why germany and especially the us are so far behind countries like sweden, switzerland when it comes to the school system
heady spear
International Baccalaureate
woven otter
Oh
heady spear
it exists in most countries worldwide
It's basically a standardized international diploma programme
Meant to be fucking challenging (way more than it has to be, really).
All classes were in English, so I'm basically considered a native speaker when applying abroad 😄
quasi valley
oh nice
worn ember
But does it blend
heady spear
Alsoooo Kim Jong-Un took the IB.
woven otter
Hmmm 🤔
heady spear
in Switzerland, I think
quasi valley
yep
best thing is i didnt actually know of the existence of the program up until half a year ago.
the only real options i had after school i was told were "go search for a company for an apprenticeship or go to a university"
worn ember
🤔
heady spear
We had to do some community service, activities and creative stuff, outside of school
then write reflections about it
For my active shit I went to the gym for two years, and took up sprinting.
quasi valley
so most people ended up in places that didnt actually reflect their interests
heady spear
That sounds hella weird :p
We can choose to work with a company the fifth year of uni, lol
quasi valley
limber knotBOT
is mikroskeem here ?
void void
yes
quasi valley
our studies are usually supposed to end after the 5th/6th year
limber knotBOT
in what directory you've been to create the 1st patch manually ?
quasi valley
yeah
heady spear
So I'll be 24 by the time I graduate :)))
quasi valley
hopefully the same for me
heady spear
Then I just have to work for 41 years before I get to retire
quasi valley
😂
though im also trying to squeeze as many seminars into this semester as i possibly can
heady spear
I am seriously considering switching to either physics or math
I don't like my programme at all :p
I'm gettings a Master of Science in Computer Engineering
But I've taken the same math courses as the pure math people, lol
quasi valley
but that will probably change in the following semesters of specialization right?
at least thats how its for us
heady spear
Ye
I will take more comp. sci courses
and less physics
Because there's a fuck tonne of physics atm
If anyone is wondering, FAWE is does.
worn ember
sucking off the discord team
slim nymph
why not just call it Ivans Waterfall
why come up with a generic name just for a personal project
limber knotBOT
ok i again fucked up something
slim nymph
and why delete files.... you realize thats going to be a huge PITA anytime upstreams change those files
limber knotBOT
slim nymph
and minimizing bungee jar is really stupid
limber knotBOT
Aikar i remove the modules, because i dont need them. I do them inside the proxy
slim nymph
you will now break every plugin that tries to use a provided dependency that bungee didnt use
just because you don't need them doesnt mean you need to delete them, remove them from loading sure, leave files in the repo
limber knotBOT
now what? redoing everything again ?!
limber knotBOT
Aikar i dont care what you think, i deleted the deletion from the patch
can you tell me how to fix this shit https://paste.md-5.net/vulekuvaki.cs
wait, actually, wat ? https://prnt.sc/mxtlxk
slim nymph
you said you dont care what i think so why would you care about my thoughts on that error 😛
heady spear
"I don't care what you think"
"can you tell me how to fix this shit"
slim nymph
why is your parent referencing yet another parent....
limber knotBOT
idk how that happens
heady spear
I don't even know that dark does plugins
he is more into his nasty C# shit
During my time on Codevision I saw him mention Minecraft like once
limber knotBOT
actually, the modules are refering to waterfall somehow, while i literally changed everything saying "io.github.waterfall" and "waterfall" to "com.github.mrivanplays" and "proxymc"
heady spear
uhm actually
slim nymph
i figured out the super thing
heady spear
Integer i = null;
i = new Integer(10);
proxy repo references ../ inside the BungeeCord repo, which is bungeecord-parent -> waterfall->parent. we then add a parent pom to waterfall parent to point to waterfall-super
limber knotBOT
and can you tell me it, Aikar? pls
slim nymph
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int i = (int)(float)Double.valueOf("10.0");
heady spear
ohh I love it when you speak like that daddy owo
limber knotBOT
Aikar, so, if you know any fix can you tell it to me? pls
worn ember
@void void Nothing interesting for me to do for plugins that hasnt been done hundreds of times before, so usually i don't
i prefer making slick GUI's and interfaces instead
heady spear
plus he doesn't know how
heady spear
he made some razor-esque LED blinky thing
worn ember
i'm not java expert
worn ember
@heady spear wheres your audio syncing app? oh right, you dont have one 😉
so still better than yours
heady spear
omg you're making me blush
worn ember
@heady spear https://camo.githubusercontent.com/a3c4dd2f520e3db5d8647ee7bd80e904b600a880/68747470733a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f34786f30556c682e706e673f31 is it really that ugly tho
heady spear
It was way uglier last time I saw it
the colour scheme is the worst one I've ever seen
worn ember
cuz it was proof of concept lmao
wide chasm
I'd space out the bottom texts evenly and add a bit more margin to the left most text and change the selection to the orange color like you have with the buttons.
limber knotBOT
what will happen if i remove the super pom ? Aikar
heady spear
dark doesn't listen to feedback
worn ember
its a dead project tbh
heady spear
all of your projects are dead
worn ember
i havent worked on it for a while
heady spear
you haven't worked out in a while either
I miss Codevision, are you still there Dark?
limber knotBOT
Aikar are you still herE?
limber knotBOT
MrIvanPlays: stop pinging people directly, just ask and if someone knows they will probably answer...
limber knotBOT
what will happen if i remove the super pom ?
worn ember
you 2 retards would make a great couple lmao
worn ember
is that what you look like irl? xD
heady spear
yes
worn ember
i'd smash
@wide chasm thanks for the tips btw
https://github.com/DarkEyeDragon/ServerLauncher lmfao wtf Mister_fix cucked me
look at the images
java, js, c# and some good old shitty php
altough i like OOP php
heady spear
no because php won't run at all
you're all so stupid omg
I can't deal with this
bnye3w
worn ember
i bet you gonna say js sucks too
but node is god almighty 🤔
think on that one for a second
you didnt even close it...
@heady spear you ever "programmed" in xsl? only then you'll truely know what aids is
wide chasm
You'll clearly not seen A0A0 before.
slim nymph
not sure if city was being sarcastic or serious
heady spear
Let. me. be. Don't. talk. about. me.
worn ember
me neither tbh
heady spear
leave 👏 me 👏 alone
slim nymph
city must be hacked, we should ban him
worn ember
+1
slim nymph
until account isnt compromised
worn ember
i'd ban him permanently, hacked once means he'll be hacked again
slim nymph
I am God
heady spear
Aikar has God complex confirmed
worn ember
@void void No. you're staying blocked
slim nymph
_> you realize that responding to him confirms you dont have him blocked right?
heady spear
what? you can still open blocked messages
worn ember
^
slim nymph
oh i forgot that
heady spear
it just says that there's a blocked message
worn ember
i just hate how he tags me all the time
slim nymph
yeah i stopped using block since that annoying block shows up
worn ember
well it is a "block element" after all
slim nymph
I stopped looking at CV as much to avoid killing my brain cells
so the other places I mainly chat in I have ban powers
wide chasm
Good idea
heady spear
I left CV for the 6th time
worn ember
yeah stef does a poor job at moderating
heady spear
It all went downhill after I lost my supporter role
slim nymph
I just look at CV when I randomly get pinged about ACF lol
worn ember
kek
heady spear
Also, Pim said he wanted me to be the moderator instead of Dark. The server died because of that tbh
slim nymph
i dont understand why supporter needed to be tied to activity. they took my supporter lol
wide chasm
I have more stuff in the audit log than Rubba, so I'll probably keep my mod though
woven otter
@void void someone needs to slap you
worn ember
it died when i got demoted tbh xD
heady spear
🤷 Pim let it die
woven otter
Pim is just doing some weird stuff with the server
worn ember
more like doing nothing
heady spear
I had some serious suggestions a year ago and he was like "oh yeah, we should do that" and never did any of it
slim nymph
pims refusal to accept that its Code Vision and not Codevision is what killed it!! 😛
heady spear
then gave mod roles to people that were on the server once every 6 months
worn ember
haha
woven otter
He is doing something but each time he does it he fucks up CV more
worn ember
^^
slim nymph
Dark you're cancering it up yourself...
worn ember
well i got to keep it alive somehow
heady spear
STOP. TAGGING. PEOPLE.
slim nymph
thats the kind of shit that keeps me away from CV
woven otter
hehe..
heady spear
Yeah, Dark complains yet he's the biggest butthurt kiddo on the server.
worn ember
well theres like how many? 15 active people on cv? half of wich are retards (including myself)
woven otter
Immaturity breeds immaturity right?
heady spear
If I wanted bullshit I'd just go on IntellectualSites.
worn ember
i can have serious conversations if needed, but if theres no need for them (or not asked for them) i don't
heady spear
I hope you fall from a mountain.
heady spear
What the actual fuck
What's up with these morons thinking we offer support in random ass languages?
I'm done. I'm just gonna stop reading issues altogether.
worn ember
glad i dont have issues ever haha
slim nymph
city you need to go take a break, seems you are quite wound up 😛
heady spear
😠 everyone is stupid
limber knotBOT
no u
worn ember
he probably hasn't had sex in a while xD
limber knotBOT
LOL
heady spear
No I've been studying for my circuit analysis exam so I have barely left my apartment in a week 😄
slim nymph
theres websites to resolve that problem
limber knotBOT
hey city i have pornhub premium, i can gib u my acc, go nut and then come back with clear mind
slim nymph
@heady spear go walk then
limber knotBOT
;)
worn ember
your life bruh
wide chasm
"Hello everyone, I have a small problem
I have a made a plot world. You can buy plots with the command /plot auto, but with /plot buy I only get:
The Current plot must have an owner to perform this action
I have given all the permissions and everything else works without problems.
Kind regards,
Michael"
gloomy warren
Translation: he want's to sell plots with /plot buy instead of /plot auto
slim nymph
e&m?
wide chasm
That's 5$ for my translation /s
heady spear
electromechanics
slim nymph
oh
gloomy warren
close enough 😄
slim nymph
go learn about email marketing though! 😛
limber knotBOT
i removed parent pom and everything got fixed
heady spear
Sounds far more interesting than this
And my professor just reads from the book
I might as well get Audible.
slim nymph
city, you should go take a 30m walk, then watch some tv, tthen go back to it
worn ember
i wouldve learned more in a year on my own from reading that book than he does it
slim nymph
if your that angered over it, take a break
slim nymph
yall need to calm down on telling people to not tag, tagging is fine
some servers have rules that youll be banned for bitching about being tagged
worn ember
not from that dude tho xD
heady spear
I get blippediblops for messages in german
dunno wth to do with them
and I keep my pings on so Z can tell me how much he loves me
worn ember
i'ma make a self bot to ping aikar every 30 seconds
heady spear
What if I make a bot for him? then it's a himbot.
worn ember
so is pirating movies @void void don't think i dont know about your evil doings
slim nymph
worn ember
oof
woven otter
missclicks
heady spear
I only pirate Hannah Montana CDs
cosmic raft
Hannah Montana!
heady spear
I own most miley cds tho lol
worn ember
i only pirate miley cyrus songs
slim nymph
Is your son a computer hacker? does he obsess over Lunix?
worn ember
is he a basement dweller?
slim nymph
incase you havent seen it 😛 http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
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worn ember
I attend their teen parties with them to ensure no drinking or alcohol is on the premises and this is exactly why kids hate their parents
heady spear
"Does your son use Quake?"
" are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system"
wow no better uninstall
halalirious
slim nymph
18 years old
worn ember
what an entitled parent lmfao
being a hacker isn't technically illegal anyway
only if you do it without permission of the device you're "hacking"
limber knotBOT
Aikar now i don't delete the modules directory
slim nymph
someone on either this discord or admincraft got the fun of participating in a redteam recently
worn ember
pen testing is mostly social engineering now a days
its easier to hack a human than a computer
wide chasm
Depends on what software you need to hack
gloomy warren
"Hey look here, here you have 50$, now give me access?"
worn ember
you dont even need to spend money...
gloomy warren
true. just send the secretary woman a nice cat pic 😄
worn ember
just pour out a coffee on your shirt go to the help desk ask if you can change
and boom free access
90% of the time they'll just let you in
acoustic pilot
@slim nymph You might know this answer better than the rest in here. When you Google search for a potential brand name, "Did you mean" is a good indicator that there is no existing SEO that will compete with that name when I choose it, right?
I mean I still get results related to the search, but assuming it means there isn't any strong results.
worn ember
well as long as its not copyrighted it should be fine yes
acoustic pilot
That is not at all what I'm asking.
worn ember
just because not many people search it doesnt mean its not relevant what they actually search, so i wouldnt rely on google too much
slim nymph
thats a stupid statement dark
worn ember
how?
acoustic pilot
I'll rely on the advice of people who know a thing or two about SEO, rather than someone who doesn't. Thank you, though.
worn ember
k i'll shut up jeez
acoustic pilot
I'm seeing like 10 pages of results but it's Google breaking apart the keyword into two separate keywords I think.
slim nymph
do "keyword"
acoustic pilot
For example, "FooCraft" and Google shows everthing for "Foo" and "Craft"
slim nymph
or +keyword
acoustic pilot
Yeah that narrows it down a lot to fewer pages.
Things largely unrelated to my topic.
slim nymph
though if its a brand name, you have to build brand reputation first
you're only verifying your brand name isnt gonna conflict with a popular term
velvet raven
acoustic pilot
Yeah, naturally I'd wanna be the dominate search result for that keyword, just trying to assess whether it's there's potential for me to even build reputation on that brand name to begin with without being drowned by competing results.
dominant*
Getting a decent name that shows little to no results on an exact keyword match for "MyBrand" seems quite difficult 😛
Mostly because I suck with names.
Looks like "Did you mean" comes up because people are clicking more results related to whatever Google is suggesting, so yeah seems like it's a good indicator that you can climb to the top on that keyboard more easily.
keyword, even
Ugh, not thinking straight lol
worn ember
but how will people find you if its an unsearched keyword?
acoustic pilot
It's about being the first result when they search that keyword.
You get there by building backlinks and people clicking your site more than others for that keyword.
worn ember
That makes sense but i'd personally have common keywords that i know people google for. But if it does work out you're in a pretty good spot indeed
acoustic pilot
That's really irrelevant in most cases.
When you google Hypixel, what's the first result?
How did it become that way?
worn ember
Hmm you're right 🤔
acoustic pilot
I'm only concerned about the brand name.
Sure, it would be absolutely fantastic if your server popped up as the first result for "minecraft server" but there's no way in hell you are going to achieve that.
worn ember
Yeah thats not gonna happen. Having good meta data goes a long way but wont bring you to the top
acoustic pilot
Looks like the best Hypixel manages is second page of "minecraft minigame server"
Which is still impressive, but pretty much crap for SEO since if you're not on the first page, you're not relevant for that keyword.
HiveMC is on the first page for those keywords though, impressively.
worn ember
yeah who goes to the second page anyway xD
acoustic pilot
worn ember
how much is the domain name?
slim lake
Nice improvements on the server
acoustic pilot
I wouldn't get anything other than a .com or .net, so it would be $12. Though in my case, Google Domains is offering me one free year.
worn ember
thats not so bad
i pay more for my domain xD
its like 18/year for me
.me
worst choice of my life
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Failed to fetch info (400)
wide chasm
lol
worn ember
🤔
cant tell if its a joke or not
i like how my domain redirects to mocking spongebob
😢
i really need to get my own webserver setup lmao
my ISP charges 250$/mo for a static IP lmao what a ripoff...
crimson spindle
Not really surprised if it's an ipv4 address 
acoustic pilot
At that price you can get 80+ IPv4 addresses from a hosting provider.
So not really sure what you meant there 😛
worn ember
i'd get company grade internet with it though so thats something but yeah i'm not willing to spend that type of money lmao
let alone have that kind of money to spare
acoustic pilot
That's probably where all the cost is then
Upgrading from a plain old plan to a business plan
They have uptime guarauntees
worn ember
i'll just rent a 3$/mo webserver xD
worn ember
So i'm working on a server launcher for mc servers. but i want to aim it at people that would use it for testing stuff (no sane person runs production servers on windows anyway) so what would be tools you'd like to see that might convince you to use it?
wide chasm
If you could make it automatically detect stacktraces and put it to the side or somewhere I can instantly look at it, that'd be neat. That way I don't have to search the log for it.
wide chasm
I use Windows, yes.
worn ember
i could make a linux version if you give me 10 years
wide chasm
Would love to give Linux a try sometime, but I'm lazy.
upper flicker
Paper's user base has actually sat at about 10% windows usage for forever
and it doesnt look like its going to change
worn ember
so no real point to bother then?
upper flicker
hmm?
even if no one ran prod servers on windows, and they do, developers still clearly use it for plugin testing
worn ember
but stats dont lie tho 🤔 testing servers still count towards the stats
or are those numbers pulled out of your ass?
quasi valley
i dont think you have your test servers up all the time?
upper flicker
10% of paper servers
Around 7% of all listed servers on bstats
which looks to be around 10,000 or so
but test servers would only show up if they're up for longer than... 30 minutes iirc
if youre like me, they're bouncing way too much for that
limber knotBOT
The good news is that we still have windows NT too
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Windows "not there"?
limber knotBOT
the only thing I would like is for the paper console to work properly with how I have my run configuration setup in intellij xD
duuno if I would need a separate launcher for that though...
limber knotBOT
well, if I start the main directly in it it works, but if I run the jar it doesn't xD
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IntelliJ's console barely works
upper flicker
I havent had that issue but IJ's console is not really the bar anyone aims for
afaik
worn ember
it works fine for modded, havent tested much with servers tho
limber knotBOT
just would make testing easier ¯_(ツ)_/¯
upper flicker
I pretty much stopped trying to run external jars in IJ for other reasons
I get much nicer debug and hotswap if i just run main directly
but the console is seriously poop
worn ember
hotswapping is big gey sometimes
worn ember
lol in my current console i cant even copy paste
upper flicker
7 people running some Solaris derived thing
probably those smartos people
should check on that logger ticket again see where everything sits
limber knotBOT
is there a way to start the server via it's main class when the server itself isn't a module of the project you want to debug? 🤔
wait, just adding the server jar to the classpath via the jvm arguments seems to work
doesn't make the terminal pretty though :S
interesting, when I start the paper server directly (via the main class) it shows colors in the terminal and the input line (although no tab completion but I can live with that)
upper flicker
IJ doesnt support tab completion afaik
limber knotBOT
yeah, if I start it from another project it complains that the terminal isn't supported, when I start the paper project directly it doesn't
what is paper? can some1 explain? it says on spigot console "download PAPER" and "this is only a recomandation"
upper flicker
it doesnt provided the necessary info
Paper is a fork of Spigot that replaces your spigot jar. It has changes to improve performance, the Bukkit API, and other gameplay elements
limber knotBOT
oh
thanks
performance improvements would be nice for my raspberry pi
For a pi, you're basically going to want to reduce the heck out of your view distance, configure async chunk load threads to like 1, just so that you get some form of async relief without overloading the pi
worn ember
i think you Pi might get burned
upper flicker
Paper makes a lot performance improvements but it isnt going to be the silver bullet on a raspberry pi. Especially not for 1.13
I've gotten mine to be tolerable but its still not great
worn ember
you'd have better luck running it on a old laptop or something
limber knotBOT
you'll probably get better performance using a $10/mo dedicated server than a pi xD
limber knotBOT
ye i have stupid cooling on my pi (it gets to 20 Degrees Celsius maximum when mining for bitcoin hard)
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.wa 100th digit of pi
limber knotBOT
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heady spear
proof that thicc daddy is harassing my bots
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X980?
worn ember
are you seriously mining bitcoins on a pi?
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Is that another failed intel chipset
heady spear
no I gave u the daddy role just so I'd know that you're not fake
limber knotBOT
not much but im making money
heady spear
You're making like a dollar every 10 years wtf
worn ember
yeah and your parents are paying the bills
upper flicker
the daddy role
limber knotBOT
wtf. you can't mine bitcoin with a pi, lmao
upper flicker
I mean you probably could
worn ember
cpu mining is very inefficient
limber knotBOT
mine something like monero that is asic-proof...
upper flicker
just gonna be baaaaaaad
worn ember
so you probably spend more mining them than making profit
heady spear